=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:58] hi all [06:43] i'm trying to build a self contained snappy package which has zsh. It requires ncurses; now should I download Ncurses, and extract into my zsh directory? If yes, what folder should I put it in? [06:43] should I create a folder called "dependencies" or "src" [already exists], and put it in there? [06:43] or am I doing this all wrong? [06:44] actually I'll ask ubuntu packaging. === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:03] good morning [07:04] dholbach, morning [07:04] dholbach, because click packages/ snaps are statically linked, do I need to provide every single dependency, or should I be relying on some dependencies from the system? [07:05] does that make sense? I'm just wading into this. [07:07] hey kivi [07:08] kivi, you don't necessarily need to link statically - you could also bundle libraries which are necessary and set someting like LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or something) if that makes things easier [07:09] clicks/snapps can only require a framework to be installed, not packages as in the .deb based world [07:09] I don't know if there's a list of packages that are guaranteed to be in the snappy base... [07:10] dholbach, the question for me is knowing what I can and can not use. Like for example; I can't use an installed python interpreter, so I need to bundle one myself, right? [07:10] yes [07:11] if you log into your phone (or emulator) you can try it out [07:11] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ python [07:11] -bash: python: command not found [07:11] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ [07:11] on the phone right now you can even use 'dpkg -l' [07:11] on a snappy based system that won't exist anymore [07:12] dholbach, okay, but if I want to be on the safe side, I should bundle all the dependencies myself? Or will that come at a huge cost? [07:14] it'll be a bigger download for your users [07:15] dholbach, but performance will still be fine? [07:17] yep [07:19] dholbach, okay thanks! [07:20] Once I get this down, I think I'll make a few youtube tutorials on this. [07:32] kivi, excellent - thanks a lot! :) [07:40] dpm, I think we wanted to talk about https://strawpoll.me/4482403/r at some stage [07:57] dholbach, didn't we make a decision already to use ubuntu-app-devel@? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [08:00] dpm, I can't remember - I'm happy to update developer.u.c and let folks on both lists know [08:02] ah developer.u.c is already up to date [08:05] ok, cool === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:38] mhall119, do you have any deployment news? :) === timp is now known as t1mp === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [10:55] popey, mzanetti I would love a feedback by you on bug #1478094 [10:55] bug 1478094 in Ubuntu Notes app "Tags wil not allow you to tap okay until the word is released from the keyboard" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478094 [10:56] rpadovani, what kind of feedback? [10:56] oh, I see [10:56] hmm [10:56] mzanetti, wait for an upstream solution or disable predictive text? [10:56] rpadovani, well, there is an upstream solution [10:57] really? I wasn't aware of [10:58] rpadovani, https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.TextField/ [10:58] rpadovani: it sounds like you're checking for text before enabled the Okay button, you can fix that by checking for text or the text field's inputMethodComposing being true [10:58] rpadovani, inputMethodComposing [11:01] mzanetti, Elleo thanks :-) === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 === dpm_ is now known as dpm === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:26] dpm, did mhall119 say anything about deploying developer.u.c soon? [12:26] or do we just need to wait for IS to take care of the ticket? [12:36] dholbach, as far as I understood it from the call with Mike, we're now just waiting for IS to work on that ticket [12:37] dholbach, RT #83291 [12:37] I'll have to see if they need some prodding [12:38] ok [12:38] thanks [12:40] I can't see the current status atm, as I can't log into the RT system for some reason [12:40] it appears unchanged [12:40] it's "size estimate: L" [12:40] so might take a bit longer [12:41] yeah, I could now log in [13:00] dpm, the ticket will need escalation [13:00] dholbach: nope nothing is blocking it other than lots of tickets with higher priority [13:09] zsombi: small question about ListItems: I'm using the new ones from 1.2 (with leading/trailingActions), I was wondering if it can be combined with the Expandable one in any blessed way? [13:10] dholbach, ok, will work on escalating it, thanks for following up [13:10] didrocks: nopez, I'm working on expansion [13:10] dpm, thank you! [13:11] zsombi: I guess a current solution would be (if no leading/trailing actions are shown) to listen to pressAndHold and change the height? === elopio_ is now known as elopio === greyback__ is now known as greyback [14:09] "If the ListItem contains a component which contains an active MouseArea, the clicked signal will be supressed when clicked over this area." -- even if the contained MouseArea is smaller? I'm having an issue where the ListItem's clicked signal is not emitted (I have MouseAreas within, but smaller) [14:09] Any ideas? [14:23] JamesTait: any news on whether we can get rid of all the clutter in https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/reviewer/ ? [14:25] popey, it's still being worked on. [14:26] ok === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === athairus is now known as afkthairus === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [18:51] popey, is there a maximum length to the changelog/what's new field in the store? I thought you were going to have to cut the list of changes we had this time ;-) [19:04] if only those were even visible in the ui [19:04] very time I update I briefly see what apps there are, then they're gone, and if by any chance I remember what they were I'll have to dig it up in uappexplorer [19:05] kalikiana, you can see the what's new when you press'n'hold the app in the app scope? if thats what you mean? [19:07] hmmm press and hold doesn't seem to work anymore, it's loading forever [19:07] kalikiana, yeah its really slow at loading, but if it does you can see the changelog/reviews there [19:08] oh, it can't cope with my network for some reason trying to login to a coffee shop that's two streets down and totally out of range [19:08] hah! [19:09] I would think an installed app should somehow be... installed [19:09] yet it only works with wlan [19:09] yeah i guess half of the information is stored locally [19:09] but like the reviews etc is probably remote [19:09] indeed the changelog is there [19:09] \o/ [19:10] so I guess if I can write down all apps before hitting "update" and spend 10 seconds each, I can hunt down the changes [19:10] yeah lol [19:10] sadly I'm not seriously going to [19:11] so I will stick to uappexplorer's "recently changed" view [19:13] thanks anyway for the tip [19:14] np [19:17] having a changelog on the update screen would be a great boon [19:21] wow now that's an interesting bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1479464 [19:21] Ubuntu bug 1479464 in Dekko "[Dekko 0.5.6]: fail to open mailboxes with USB tethering network" [Undecided,New] [20:12] DanChapman: all I can say is doing things in the _other_ direction (using Dekko on the desktop and connecting via USB/phone) works well [20:45] mcphail: yeah i'm not sure what the problem is tbh. Dekko doesn't do anything _special_ here. Cool to know it works the other way round though.:-) === salem_ is now known as _salem === afkthairus is now known as athairus [23:41] hi [23:41] some one here??