| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:57 |
|---|---|---|
| ObrienDave | *waves* | 07:54 |
| lordievader | How are you doing ObrienDave? | 07:59 |
| ObrienDave | tired, got home 30 minutes ago | 08:00 |
| ObrienDave | and you? | 08:00 |
| lordievader | Meh, doing okay. Found out my bios is keeping my cpu from doing aes... | 08:00 |
| lordievader | Need to do some hacky things to enable it. Will look into that later... | 08:01 |
| ObrienDave | loverly | 08:01 |
| lordievader | Any more 'wonders' in #ubuntu? | 08:04 |
| ObrienDave | not looking LOL | 08:04 |
| lordievader | Hehe ;) | 08:05 |
| ObrienDave | too tired, too grumpy to deal whit that noise tonight :) | 08:05 |
| lordievader | Hihi :P | 08:05 |
| ObrienDave | why, OH WHY, do i get involved ;P | 08:09 |
| lordievader | You just couldn't stay away, could you. | 08:10 |
| ObrienDave | *SLAPS FINGERS* bad fingers ;P | 08:11 |
| ObrienDave | i almost jumped in there again. *BAD FINGERS* ;P | 08:13 |
| OerHeks | Lion hunter becomes hunted, Ubuntu helpers avoid helpchannel, happy International Tiger Day ! | 08:17 |
| ObrienDave | \o/ ;p | 08:18 |
| OerHeks | it is me, OerHeks | 08:19 |
| ObrienDave | dang, killed myself rofl | 08:41 |
| OerHeks | " Ubuntu, with ads free solitaire! " | 08:42 |
| ObrienDave | \o/ | 08:43 |
| lordievader | Whoo fixed my aes issue. Early loading of microcode \o/ | 08:45 |
| OerHeks | On what cpu is that, lordievader ? | 08:47 |
| lordievader | OerHeks: http://ark.intel.com/products/52219/Intel-Core-i7-2630QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz | 08:47 |
| lordievader | HP's bios is too old to enable AES-NI. | 08:48 |
| OerHeks | Ah ok :-) | 08:49 |
| ObrienDave | i'm going to bed *waves* | 08:50 |
| lordievader | It increased the aes perfomance in the cryptsetup benchmark ten fold :D | 08:52 |
| OerHeks | That i would not ignore too | 08:53 |
| OerHeks | maybe my HP with i3 can be tweaked too | 08:54 |
| OerHeks | hi cfhowlett | 08:54 |
| cfhowlett | OerHeks, greetings sir | 08:54 |
| cfhowlett | I guess | 08:54 |
| lordievader | OerHeks: Do you use luks? | 08:57 |
| OerHeks | lordievader, no. | 08:57 |
| lordievader | That was for me the main reason. I never checked out the performance of the different ciphers until today. A friend of mine pointed out yesterday that it really matters. | 08:58 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning fellas | 09:24 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje | 09:27 |
| lotuspsychje | hello mate | 09:27 |
| lotuspsychje | all ok lordievader ? | 09:27 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: Doing good here. My ssd should be coming in today, any tips? | 09:27 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: wich brand? | 09:27 |
| lordievader | Samsung. | 09:28 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: wich version | 09:28 |
| lordievader | Evo 850 | 09:28 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: nice, that one doesnt need firmware upgrading | 09:29 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: changing bios iDE to ahci, and doing all the ubuntu ssd tweaks | 09:29 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: fstab,swappiness | 09:30 |
| lordievader | Already running ahci, and I am running Gentoo remember ;) | 09:30 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah :p | 09:30 |
| lordievader | What are the 'Ubuntu ssd tweaks'? | 09:30 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: http://tinyurl.com/ctk2vbu | 09:31 |
| lotuspsychje | im having relatime in fstab, works best for desktop use | 09:31 |
| lotuspsychje | also the tmp fstab lines add | 09:31 |
| lordievader | What 'tmp fstab lines'? | 09:32 |
| lotuspsychje | http://askubuntu.com/questions/78971/best-etc-fstab-setings-for-boosting-ssd-hdd | 09:33 |
| lordievader | Heh, already doing that too ;) | 09:34 |
| lotuspsychje | well for the rest, your samsung hardware will do it all for you :p | 09:34 |
| lotuspsychje | !info preload | 09:35 |
| ubot5 | preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB | 09:36 |
| lotuspsychje | works also nice ssd | 09:36 |
| lordievader | Already running that, also running/using prelink. | 09:37 |
| lotuspsychje | !info prelink | 09:38 |
| ubot5 | prelink (source: prelink): ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20130503-1 (vivid), package size 909 kB, installed size 1796 kB | 09:38 |
| lotuspsychje | can that be combined with preload harmless? | 09:39 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Prelink | 09:39 |
| lotuspsychje | cool, you will rocknroll after ssd install :p | 09:40 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: dont forget to feedback :p | 09:40 |
| lordievader | I'm still wondering how I'm going to do my dual luks container unlock... | 09:41 |
| lordievader | I hope lvm lets me mount things with a partial vg. | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | dont have experience with lvm | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.wikiguga.com/topic/4509bd3598dd5b78880a7b422c420922 | 09:43 |
| lordievader | Yeah, I was thinking about storing a key file on the ssd. | 09:45 |
| lordievader | However if lvm doesn't allow mounting when the vg is partial (I do think it allow it though) this plan is blown. | 09:45 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: you could ask this in #ubuntu if that would work | 09:49 |
| lordievader | Meh, I'll figure things out. | 09:49 |
| lordievader | Probably won't be too difficult ;) | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 09:50 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: did you receive it yet? | 14:51 |
| lotuspsychje | afternoon to all | 14:51 |
| OerHeks | o/ | 14:52 |
| lotuspsychje | hi OerHeks :p | 14:52 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: Jup it is rather fast. | 14:52 |
| lotuspsychje | yayyyy | 14:52 |
| daftykins | what's that? | 14:52 |
| * daftykins is playing with Windows 10 today | 14:52 | |
| lotuspsychje | daftykins: he ordered his samsung evo 850 | 14:53 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: how fast is boot, with wich Os? | 14:53 |
| daftykins | ah har | 14:53 |
| lordievader | Also added ram. And will add more when I dissasemble it. | 14:53 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 14:53 |
| lotuspsychje | its gonna be a beast | 14:53 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: ~20 seconds, but that is maily since I need to type my password twice. | 14:54 |
| lordievader | Need to figure out how I can delay the second unlock till / is mounted. | 14:54 |
| lotuspsychje | lordievader: not sure on lvm :p find your way thru the tunnel :p | 15:04 |
| TJ- | the 850 is pretty good | 15:05 |
| lordievader | Meh, I'll mess with it later. Need to get things done. | 15:05 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ- might be able to help | 15:05 |
| TJ- | I've got one here | 15:05 |
| lotuspsychje | thats out hardware spec | 15:05 |
| lotuspsychje | *our | 15:06 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: you got the evo or the pro | 15:07 |
| TJ- | I've been developing a script to install to it fully encrypted, with detached LUKS header on an external device, also encrypted | 15:07 |
| TJ- | 850 EVO | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | nice | 15:08 |
| TJ- | it's the 500GB model, replacing a 750GB 7,200rpm SHD (flash/hard drive combo) | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | heavy | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | wich Os | 15:10 |
| TJ- | 14.04 | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | and your boot time? | 15:10 |
| TJ- | No idea, I never boot it | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:10 |
| TJ- | anyone who is concerned about boot times isn't using the PC for anything serious. I'm interested in random I/O read/write latencies | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | time is money and slow boot times arent pleasant | 15:12 |
| OerHeks | oer@OerNest:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda | 15:13 |
| OerHeks | [sudo] password for oer: | 15:13 |
| OerHeks | Timing cached reads: 9010 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4506.69 MB/sec | 15:13 |
| OerHeks | Timing buffered disk reads: 558 MB in 3.00 seconds = 185.87 MB/sec | 15:13 |
| TJ- | Why boot? I suspend/resume, but even 1 minute isn't going to affect anything. It's like those drivers that race about on short journeys waste loads of fuel and arrive maybe 4 seconds earlier | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | [sudo] password for lotuspsychje: | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | Timing cached reads: 1284 MB in 2.00 seconds = 641.17 MB/sec | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | Timing buffered disk reads: 442 MB in 3.02 seconds = 146.24 MB/sec | 15:13 |
| lordievader | I run Windows a vm so I don't have to reboot ;) | 15:14 |
| TJ- | Is it my week to get the deliberately annoying issues? | 15:16 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 15:17 |
| daftykins | TJ-: yep, short straw i'm afraid | 15:17 |
| daftykins | we all drew this morning ;) | 15:17 |
| * TJ- rolls eyes and swears so much the dogs run and hide | 15:18 | |
| TJ- | this eein - I'm not convinced the target is even an Ubuntu server... I suspect Debian but I can't trust to get the results I ask for from the bad server | 15:19 |
| daftykins | ask for an output of lsb_release | 15:21 |
| daftykins | if they can't provide one, or it shows it's debian, refuse to help :) | 15:22 |
| TJ- | I've got a pure mini pci-e flash drive as well, with its own on-board sata 3 controller... that's fast, sizes up to 128GB. I've also found it hangs the XPS laptops and one server when connected at boot-time, but is fine when hot-plugged. Seems to be a problem with it's Option ROM not behaving correctly with the system BIOSes | 15:22 |
| TJ- | daftykins: I would, but I've asked for output twice and its been from a 'good' server both times despite everything! | 15:23 |
| daftykins | o0 | 15:23 |
| lordievader | TJ-: Ask for uname -a output? | 15:23 |
| TJ- | I was planning on equipping all the laptops with the mini-pcie + spinning disks but got to work out the OROM problems with the manufacturer's engineers first | 15:24 |
| TJ- | lordievader: I gave up because eein was giving me results from the good server even though I specifically asked for them from the bad server! I'm sure some people's brains just do not compute | 15:25 |
| lordievader | I came to that same conclusion a couple of days ago in #ubuntu. Might be the reason I am no longer in there. | 15:26 |
| lordievader | :P | 15:26 |
| daftykins | TJ-: those sound a bit niche to me, is it standard PCI express 1x slots they're using, or? | 15:26 |
| daftykins | oh sorry you did say mini-PCIE | 15:26 |
| daftykins | M.2 is great | 15:26 |
| daftykins | i've done a build where there's a 2x or 4x M.2 slot directly on the motherboard below the CPU socket, super fast boot | 15:26 |
| daftykins | power button, first thing you see is the windows 7 boot logo which doesn't even get a chance to complete - then bam, desktop | 15:27 |
| lotuspsychje | TJ-: someone screams for help.. :p | 15:29 |
| TJ- | yeah. Well I fixed on XPS M1530s ages ago - all our laptops are identical, with the 1920x1200 LCD, 8GB RAM, T7200 core2duo, Bluetooth, Cellular 4G, dual-band MIMO Wifi... the XPSs have the ExpressCard plus 3 full mini-PCIe slots (not cut-downs with only USB or mSATA on) so they're highly flexible and expandable. | 15:29 |
| TJ- | like on my main PC I use the ExpressCard to connect an external ViDock PCIe expander, which has the Nvidia NVS420 dual GPU driving 4 additional monitors | 15:32 |
| lotuspsychje | what you guys think of this: | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/entroware-now-sells-the-ubuntu-powered-proteus-with-a-new-card-487975.shtml | 15:34 |
| daftykins | weird spec | 15:35 |
| daftykins | pairing a low end i3 with a 2GB nvidia GTX 960M | 15:35 |
| daftykins | oh i7 options too | 15:35 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah and samsung 850 in configurator | 15:36 |
| lotuspsychje | intel wifi | 15:36 |
| lotuspsychje | i wanna make the hd unchoosable in my store | 15:37 |
| lotuspsychje | only 850 pro inside | 15:37 |
| lordievader | lotuspsychje: Why? Not everyone is looking for top performance, some just want something cheap. | 15:38 |
| lotuspsychje | then choose a lower 850 pro 120gig | 15:38 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont wanna go lower then 850 pro | 15:38 |
| daftykins | 850 EVO for cheap, Pro for top? :) | 15:38 |
| lotuspsychje | brb dinner | 15:39 |
| daftykins | what are we having? :) | 15:39 |
| TJ- | chips! | 15:42 |
| daftykins | 8D | 15:45 |
| lotuspsychje | lol this is lotus' wife | 15:53 |
| lotuspsychje | are you laughing with my spaghetti | 15:53 |
| daftykins | lotuspsychje: hi! what are we having with spaghetti? :) | 16:00 |
| OerHeks | nom nom spagetti | 16:01 |
| TJ- | Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs :) | 16:01 |
| lotuspsychje | secret ingredients and herbs, garlic :)) | 16:01 |
| cfhowlett | and wine. lots of wine. | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | yammie lol | 16:02 |
| OerHeks | please do not install more than 512 apps in windows 10 | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | the hole channel is hungryy | 16:03 |
| TJ- | what the heck! the Drone just accused me of flooding! | 16:05 |
| TJ- | Any ops can remove the -q on me? That's ridiculous | 16:05 |
| TJ- | Apparently I can type as fast as others paste! | 16:05 |
| daftykins | :) yep i've been there | 16:05 |
| daftykins | it'll go off in a few seconds | 16:06 |
| * TJ- plots ot murder Drone | 16:06 | |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje likes many garlic | 16:07 |
| daftykins | TJ-: you might have to wake up #ubuntu-ops | 16:07 |
| daftykins | if it doesn't go shortly | 16:07 |
| daftykins | ah no there you go | 16:07 |
| daftykins | :) | 16:07 |
| lotuspsychje | I don't think he's a vampire | 16:07 |
| TJ- | It just went :) | 16:08 |
| daftykins | lotuspsychje: he'd not survive :> | 16:11 |
| lotuspsychje | lol I'm gonna take over his position here | 16:12 |
| lotuspsychje | real lotus back :p and survived dinner | 16:24 |
| cfhowlett | lotuspsychje, I am SO jealous. there you full of wine, spaghetti and garlic bread ... and I can't find a decent source here in Beijing. | 16:27 |
| lotuspsychje | cfhowlett: you serious? no spaghetti in china? | 16:28 |
| lotuspsychje | cfhowlett: my wife says she will cook spaghetti for you :p | 16:29 |
| cfhowlett | lotuspsychje, no decent spaghetti. Worse and stranger, no REAL garlic bread. It's all sweet buttered but no garlic seasoning | 16:29 |
| cfhowlett | lotuspsychje, ah, you gotta a keeper, there, m8. | 16:29 |
| lotuspsychje | :p:p | 16:30 |
| lotuspsychje | cfhowlett: and im always jaleous when i enter chinese restaurant and seeing the famillies eating dinner bowl soup with noodles with all kinds of ingredients in it, and i cant order that on the menu | 16:31 |
| cfhowlett | "jayga" "nayga" = this that | 16:32 |
| lotuspsychje | mmmm lemme google picture that | 16:32 |
| cfhowlett | point and shoot. works for me : | 16:32 |
| cfhowlett | :) | 16:32 |
| cfhowlett | tis your Chinese lesson for the day. | 16:32 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm no photo's | 16:33 |
| lotuspsychje | cfhowlett: wich one is it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_soups | 16:37 |
| cfhowlett | lotuspsychje, jaga = "that one" naga = "this one". If you don't speak Chinese, which I don't, this is how you can order. | 16:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 16:39 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: greetings mate | 19:00 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: \o 'Tis a good day in our neighborhood . | 19:13 |
| lotuspsychje | sun shining? | 19:13 |
| Bashing-om | ^ and then some - heat index of 108 degress F ! I am going to hog the AC . | 19:17 |
| lotuspsychje | wow | 19:17 |
| lotuspsychje | 2015 is a really hot year for the world | 19:17 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Global Warming and climate change -> Wars for subsistence are comming . | 19:23 |
| lotuspsychje_ | Bashing-om: alot of poor nations flewing to all sides of the world already | 19:25 |
| OerHeks | lotuspsychje_, we are the poor, in the west | 19:26 |
| lotuspsychje_ | lol | 19:26 |
| lotuspsychje_ | OerHeks: ok lets immigrate to africa and play ubuntu circle :p | 19:27 |
| OerHeks | why afrika? | 19:27 |
| lotuspsychje_ | thats where ubuntu started? | 19:27 |
| lotuspsychje_ | and if were poor, they might be rich? | 19:28 |
| OerHeks | lets immigrate to Cuba | 19:28 |
| lotuspsychje_ | salsa and cigares mmm | 19:28 |
| === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| EriC^^ | wb daftykins | 20:26 |
| daftykins | o/ | 20:28 |
| daftykins | thanks! home tubes went down it seems | 20:28 |
| EriC^^ | how's it going? | 20:28 |
| daftykins | good ta, just upgraded my desktop from win7 to 10 | 20:28 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 20:28 |
| EriC^^ | how do you like it? | 20:28 |
| daftykins | been using the preview since Decemberish, definitely really nice :) lighter even than 7 | 20:28 |
| daftykins | just the usual learning curve of course | 20:28 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 20:29 |
| Bashing-om | Wife just upgraded her graphics work station to Win 10. She is impressed with 10. | 20:30 |
| EriC^^ | is it free to upgrade if you have win8? | 20:30 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 20:32 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: Yes, in her case, was a free offer . | 20:33 |
| EriC^^ | nice, it looks very sleek | 20:33 |
| EriC^^ | http://www.windowscentral.com/official-windows-10-iso-files-now-available-download | 20:34 |
| daftykins | both 7 and 8 yep | 20:34 |
| daftykins | unfortunately booting straight off the ISO doesn't work, you have to do an upgrade first :( | 20:35 |
| daftykins | which amusingly has left my copy not activated right now, figure i'll give MS support lines a break before i ring up again ;) | 20:35 |
| daftykins | got cut off earlier, i'm sure they're absolutely swamped with users | 20:35 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 20:36 |
| EriC^^ | well that's awesome | 20:37 |
| Bashing-om | I watched her do the upgrade this AM, it was and is sleek. MS do something right ? , was slick and a very friendly composition . | 20:37 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:39 |
| daftykins | i'm still gonna do a clean one i think | 20:39 |
| daftykins | nothing like a properly clean install as a good foundation to start! | 20:39 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 20:39 |
| Bashing-om | ^ 100 % | 20:40 |
| daftykins | not hugely clear on how it works right now, couldn't feed it by 7 key, so perhaps once the upgrade is activated it'll *know* my system online and just work o0 | 20:43 |
| daftykins | s/by/my | 20:43 |
| daftykins | lol cat at the window miaowing as if to be let in | 20:43 |
| daftykins | best go remind her she has a flap | 20:43 |
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