[06:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:54] <ObrienDave> *waves*
[07:59] <lordievader> How are you doing ObrienDave?
[08:00] <ObrienDave> tired, got home 30 minutes ago
[08:00] <ObrienDave> and you?
[08:00] <lordievader> Meh, doing okay. Found out my bios is keeping my cpu from doing aes...
[08:01] <lordievader> Need to do some hacky things to enable it. Will look into that later...
[08:01] <ObrienDave> loverly
[08:04] <lordievader> Any more 'wonders' in #ubuntu?
[08:04] <ObrienDave> not looking LOL
[08:05] <lordievader> Hehe ;)
[08:05] <ObrienDave> too tired, too grumpy to deal whit that noise tonight :)
[08:05] <lordievader> Hihi :P
[08:09] <ObrienDave> why, OH WHY, do i get involved ;P
[08:10] <lordievader> You just couldn't stay away, could you.
[08:11] <ObrienDave> *SLAPS FINGERS* bad fingers ;P
[08:13] <ObrienDave> i almost jumped in there again. *BAD FINGERS* ;P
[08:17] <OerHeks> Lion hunter becomes hunted, Ubuntu helpers avoid helpchannel, happy International Tiger Day !
[08:18] <ObrienDave> \o/ ;p
[08:19] <OerHeks> it is me, OerHeks
[08:41] <ObrienDave> dang, killed myself rofl
[08:42] <OerHeks> " Ubuntu, with ads free solitaire! "
[08:43] <ObrienDave> \o/
[08:45] <lordievader> Whoo fixed my aes issue. Early loading of microcode \o/
[08:47] <OerHeks> On what cpu is that, lordievader ?
[08:47] <lordievader> OerHeks: http://ark.intel.com/products/52219/Intel-Core-i7-2630QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz
[08:48] <lordievader> HP's bios is too old to enable AES-NI.
[08:49] <OerHeks> Ah ok :-)
[08:50] <ObrienDave> i'm going to bed *waves*
[08:52] <lordievader> It increased the aes perfomance in the cryptsetup benchmark ten fold :D
[08:53] <OerHeks> That i would not ignore too
[08:54] <OerHeks> maybe my HP with i3 can be tweaked too
[08:54] <OerHeks> hi cfhowlett
[08:54] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, greetings sir
[08:54] <cfhowlett> I guess
[08:57] <lordievader> OerHeks: Do you use luks?
[08:57] <OerHeks> lordievader, no.
[08:58] <lordievader> That was for me the main reason. I never checked out the performance of the different ciphers until today. A friend of mine pointed out yesterday that it really matters.
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning fellas
[09:27] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> hello mate
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> all ok lordievader ?
[09:27] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Doing good here. My ssd should be coming in today, any tips?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: wich brand?
[09:28] <lordievader> Samsung.
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: wich version
[09:28] <lordievader> Evo 850
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: nice, that one doesnt need firmware upgrading
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: changing bios iDE to ahci, and doing all the ubuntu ssd tweaks
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: fstab,swappiness
[09:30] <lordievader> Already running ahci, and I am running Gentoo remember ;)
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> yeah :p
[09:30] <lordievader> What are the 'Ubuntu ssd tweaks'?
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: http://tinyurl.com/ctk2vbu
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> im having relatime in fstab, works best for desktop use
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> also the tmp fstab lines add
[09:32] <lordievader> What 'tmp fstab lines'?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> http://askubuntu.com/questions/78971/best-etc-fstab-setings-for-boosting-ssd-hdd
[09:34] <lordievader> Heh, already doing that too ;)
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> well for the rest, your samsung hardware will do it all for you :p
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !info preload
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> works also nice ssd
[09:37] <lordievader> Already running that, also running/using prelink.
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !info prelink
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> can that be combined with preload harmless?
[09:39] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Prelink
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> cool, you will rocknroll after ssd install :p
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: dont forget to feedback :p
[09:41] <lordievader> I'm still wondering how I'm going to do my dual luks container unlock...
[09:42] <lordievader> I hope lvm lets me mount things with a partial vg.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> dont have experience with lvm
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> http://www.wikiguga.com/topic/4509bd3598dd5b78880a7b422c420922
[09:45] <lordievader> Yeah, I was thinking about storing a key file on the ssd.
[09:45] <lordievader> However if lvm doesn't allow mounting when the vg is partial (I do think it allow it though) this plan is blown.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: you could ask this in #ubuntu if that would work
[09:49] <lordievader> Meh, I'll figure things out.
[09:50] <lordievader> Probably won't be too difficult ;)
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: did you receive it yet?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> afternoon to all
[14:52] <OerHeks> o/
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> hi OerHeks :p
[14:52] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Jup it is rather fast.
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> yayyyy
[14:52] <daftykins> what's that?
[14:52]  * daftykins is playing with Windows 10 today
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: he ordered his samsung evo 850
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: how fast is boot, with wich Os?
[14:53] <daftykins> ah har
[14:53] <lordievader> Also added ram. And will add more when I dissasemble it.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> its gonna be a beast
[14:54] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: ~20 seconds, but that is maily since I need to type my password twice.
[14:54] <lordievader> Need to figure out how I can delay the second unlock till / is mounted.
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: not sure on lvm :p find your way thru the tunnel :p
[15:05] <TJ-> the 850 is pretty good
[15:05] <lordievader> Meh, I'll mess with it later. Need to get things done.
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ- might be able to help
[15:05] <TJ-> I've got one here
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> thats out hardware spec
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> *our
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: you got the evo or the pro
[15:07] <TJ-> I've been developing a script to install to it fully encrypted, with detached LUKS header on an external device, also encrypted
[15:07] <TJ-> 850 EVO
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> nice
[15:09] <TJ-> it's the 500GB model, replacing a 750GB 7,200rpm SHD (flash/hard drive combo)
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> heavy
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> wich Os
[15:10] <TJ-> 14.04
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> and your boot time?
[15:10] <TJ-> No idea, I never boot it
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:11] <TJ-> anyone who is concerned about boot times isn't using the PC for anything serious. I'm interested in random I/O read/write latencies
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> time is money and slow boot times arent pleasant
[15:13] <OerHeks> oer@OerNest:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[15:13] <OerHeks> [sudo] password for oer:
[15:13] <OerHeks>  Timing cached reads:   9010 MB in  2.00 seconds = 4506.69 MB/sec
[15:13] <OerHeks>  Timing buffered disk reads: 558 MB in  3.00 seconds = 185.87 MB/sec
[15:13] <TJ-> Why boot? I suspend/resume, but even 1 minute isn't going to affect anything. It's like those drivers that race about on short journeys waste loads of fuel and arrive maybe 4 seconds earlier
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> [sudo] password for lotuspsychje:
[15:13] <lotuspsychje>  Timing cached reads:   1284 MB in  2.00 seconds = 641.17 MB/sec
[15:13] <lotuspsychje>  Timing buffered disk reads: 442 MB in  3.02 seconds = 146.24 MB/sec
[15:14] <lordievader> I run Windows a vm so I don't have to reboot ;)
[15:16] <TJ-> Is it my week to get the deliberately annoying issues?
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:17] <daftykins> TJ-: yep, short straw i'm afraid
[15:17] <daftykins> we all drew this morning ;)
[15:18]  * TJ- rolls eyes and swears so much the dogs run and hide
[15:19] <TJ-> this eein - I'm not convinced the target is even an Ubuntu server... I suspect Debian but I can't trust to get the results I ask for from the bad server
[15:21] <daftykins> ask for an output of lsb_release
[15:22] <daftykins> if they can't provide one, or it shows it's debian, refuse to help :)
[15:22] <TJ-> I've got a pure mini pci-e flash drive as well, with its own on-board sata 3 controller... that's fast, sizes up to 128GB. I've also found it hangs the XPS laptops and one server when connected at boot-time, but is fine when hot-plugged. Seems to be a problem with it's Option ROM not behaving correctly with the system BIOSes
[15:23] <TJ-> daftykins: I would, but I've asked for output twice and its been from a 'good' server both times despite everything!
[15:23] <daftykins> o0
[15:23] <lordievader> TJ-: Ask for uname -a output?
[15:24] <TJ-> I was planning on equipping all the laptops with the mini-pcie + spinning disks but got to work out the OROM problems with the manufacturer's engineers first
[15:25] <TJ-> lordievader: I gave up because eein was giving me results from the good server even though I specifically asked for them from the bad server! I'm sure some people's brains just do not compute
[15:26] <lordievader> I came to that same conclusion a couple of days ago in #ubuntu. Might be the reason I am no longer in there.
[15:26] <lordievader> :P
[15:26] <daftykins> TJ-: those sound a bit niche to me, is it standard PCI express 1x slots they're using, or?
[15:26] <daftykins> oh sorry you did say mini-PCIE
[15:26] <daftykins> M.2 is great
[15:26] <daftykins> i've done a build where there's a 2x or 4x M.2 slot directly on the motherboard below the CPU socket, super fast boot
[15:27] <daftykins> power button, first thing you see is the windows 7 boot logo which doesn't even get a chance to complete - then bam, desktop
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: someone screams for help.. :p
[15:29] <TJ-> yeah. Well I fixed on XPS M1530s ages ago - all our laptops are identical, with the 1920x1200 LCD, 8GB RAM, T7200 core2duo, Bluetooth, Cellular 4G, dual-band MIMO Wifi... the XPSs have the ExpressCard  plus 3 full mini-PCIe slots (not cut-downs with only USB or mSATA on) so they're highly flexible and expandable.
[15:32] <TJ-> like on my main PC I use the ExpressCard to connect an external ViDock PCIe expander, which has the Nvidia NVS420 dual GPU driving 4 additional monitors
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> what you guys think of this:
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/entroware-now-sells-the-ubuntu-powered-proteus-with-a-new-card-487975.shtml
[15:35] <daftykins> weird spec
[15:35] <daftykins> pairing a low end i3 with a 2GB nvidia GTX 960M
[15:35] <daftykins> oh i7 options too
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> yeah and samsung 850 in configurator
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> intel wifi
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> i wanna make the hd unchoosable in my store
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> only 850 pro inside
[15:38] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Why? Not everyone is looking for top performance, some just want something cheap.
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> then choose a lower 850 pro 120gig
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> i dont wanna go lower then 850 pro
[15:38] <daftykins> 850 EVO for cheap, Pro for top? :)
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> brb dinner
[15:39] <daftykins> what are we having? :)
[15:42] <TJ-> chips!
[15:45] <daftykins> 8D
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> lol this is lotus' wife
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> are you laughing with my spaghetti
[16:00] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: hi! what are we having with spaghetti? :)
[16:01] <OerHeks> nom nom spagetti
[16:01] <TJ-> Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs :)
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> secret ingredients and herbs, garlic :))
[16:02] <cfhowlett> and wine.  lots of wine.
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> yammie lol
[16:02] <OerHeks> please do not install more than 512 apps in windows 10
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> the hole channel is hungryy
[16:05] <TJ-> what the heck! the Drone just accused me of flooding!
[16:05] <TJ-> Any ops can remove the -q on me? That's ridiculous
[16:05] <TJ-> Apparently I can type as fast as others paste!
[16:05] <daftykins> :) yep i've been there
[16:06] <daftykins> it'll go off in a few seconds
[16:06]  * TJ- plots ot murder Drone
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje likes many garlic
[16:07] <daftykins> TJ-: you might have to wake up #ubuntu-ops
[16:07] <daftykins> if it doesn't go shortly
[16:07] <daftykins> ah no there you go
[16:07] <daftykins> :)
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> I don't think he's a vampire
[16:08] <TJ-> It just went :)
[16:11] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: he'd not survive :>
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> lol I'm gonna take over his position here
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> real lotus back :p and survived dinner
[16:27] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I am SO jealous.  there you full of wine, spaghetti and garlic bread ... and I can't find a decent source here in Beijing.
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you serious? no spaghetti in china?
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: my wife says she will cook spaghetti for you :p
[16:29] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, no decent spaghetti.  Worse and stranger, no REAL garlic bread.  It's all sweet buttered but no garlic seasoning
[16:29] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, ah, you gotta a keeper, there, m8.
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> :p:p
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: and im always jaleous when i enter chinese restaurant and seeing the famillies eating dinner bowl soup with noodles with all kinds of ingredients in it, and i cant order that on the menu
[16:32] <cfhowlett> "jayga" "nayga"   = this that
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> mmmm lemme google picture that
[16:32] <cfhowlett> point and shoot.  works for me  :
[16:32] <cfhowlett> :)
[16:32] <cfhowlett> tis your Chinese lesson for the day.
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm no photo's
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: wich one is it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_soups
[16:38] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, jaga = "that one"  naga = "this one".  If you don't speak Chinese, which I don't, this is how you can order.
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> ah
[17:03] <daftykins> :D
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: greetings mate
[19:13] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: \o  'Tis a good day in our neighborhood .
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> sun shining?
[19:17] <Bashing-om> ^ and then some - heat index of 108 degress F ! I am going to hog the AC .
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> wow
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> 2015 is a really hot year for the world
[19:23] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Global Warming and climate change -> Wars for subsistence are comming .
[19:25] <lotuspsychje_> Bashing-om: alot of poor nations flewing to all sides of the world already
[19:26] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje_, we are the poor, in the west
[19:26] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[19:27] <lotuspsychje_> OerHeks: ok lets immigrate to africa and play ubuntu circle :p
[19:27] <OerHeks> why afrika?
[19:27] <lotuspsychje_> thats where ubuntu started?
[19:28] <lotuspsychje_> and if were poor, they might be rich?
[19:28] <OerHeks> lets immigrate to Cuba
[19:28] <lotuspsychje_> salsa and cigares mmm
[20:26] <EriC^^> wb daftykins
[20:28] <daftykins> o/
[20:28] <daftykins> thanks! home tubes went down it seems
[20:28] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[20:28] <daftykins> good ta, just upgraded my desktop from win7 to 10
[20:28] <EriC^^> cool
[20:28] <EriC^^> how do you like it?
[20:28] <daftykins> been using the preview since Decemberish, definitely really nice :) lighter even than 7
[20:28] <daftykins> just the usual learning curve of course
[20:29] <EriC^^> cool
[20:30] <Bashing-om> Wife just upgraded her graphics work station to Win 10. She is impressed with 10.
[20:30] <EriC^^> is it free to upgrade if you have win8?
[20:32] <EriC^^> nice
[20:33] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yes, in her case, was a free offer .
[20:33] <EriC^^> nice, it looks very sleek
[20:34] <EriC^^> http://www.windowscentral.com/official-windows-10-iso-files-now-available-download
[20:34] <daftykins> both 7 and 8 yep
[20:35] <daftykins> unfortunately booting straight off the ISO doesn't work, you have to do an upgrade first :(
[20:35] <daftykins> which amusingly has left my copy not activated right now, figure i'll give MS support lines a break before i ring up again ;)
[20:35] <daftykins> got cut off earlier, i'm sure they're absolutely swamped with users
[20:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:37] <EriC^^> well that's awesome
[20:37] <Bashing-om> I watched her do the upgrade this AM, it was and is sleek. MS do something right ? , was slick and a very friendly composition .
[20:39] <daftykins> :D
[20:39] <daftykins> i'm still gonna do a clean one i think
[20:39] <daftykins> nothing like a properly clean install as a good foundation to start!
[20:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:40] <Bashing-om> ^ 100 %
[20:43] <daftykins> not hugely clear on how it works right now, couldn't feed it by 7 key, so perhaps once the upgrade is activated it'll *know* my system online and just work o0
[20:43] <daftykins> s/by/my
[20:43] <daftykins> lol cat at the window miaowing as if to be let in
[20:43] <daftykins> best go remind her she has a flap