[06:57] Good morning. [07:54] *waves* [07:59] How are you doing ObrienDave? [08:00] tired, got home 30 minutes ago [08:00] and you? [08:00] Meh, doing okay. Found out my bios is keeping my cpu from doing aes... [08:01] Need to do some hacky things to enable it. Will look into that later... [08:01] loverly [08:04] Any more 'wonders' in #ubuntu? [08:04] not looking LOL [08:05] Hehe ;) [08:05] too tired, too grumpy to deal whit that noise tonight :) [08:05] Hihi :P [08:09] why, OH WHY, do i get involved ;P [08:10] You just couldn't stay away, could you. [08:11] *SLAPS FINGERS* bad fingers ;P [08:13] i almost jumped in there again. *BAD FINGERS* ;P [08:17] Lion hunter becomes hunted, Ubuntu helpers avoid helpchannel, happy International Tiger Day ! [08:18] \o/ ;p [08:19] it is me, OerHeks [08:41] dang, killed myself rofl [08:42] " Ubuntu, with ads free solitaire! " [08:43] \o/ [08:45] Whoo fixed my aes issue. Early loading of microcode \o/ [08:47] On what cpu is that, lordievader ? [08:47] OerHeks: http://ark.intel.com/products/52219/Intel-Core-i7-2630QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz [08:48] HP's bios is too old to enable AES-NI. [08:49] Ah ok :-) [08:50] i'm going to bed *waves* [08:52] It increased the aes perfomance in the cryptsetup benchmark ten fold :D [08:53] That i would not ignore too [08:54] maybe my HP with i3 can be tweaked too [08:54] hi cfhowlett [08:54] OerHeks, greetings sir [08:54] I guess [08:57] OerHeks: Do you use luks? [08:57] lordievader, no. [08:58] That was for me the main reason. I never checked out the performance of the different ciphers until today. A friend of mine pointed out yesterday that it really matters. [09:24] good morning fellas [09:27] Hey lotuspsychje [09:27] hello mate [09:27] all ok lordievader ? [09:27] lotuspsychje: Doing good here. My ssd should be coming in today, any tips? [09:27] lordievader: wich brand? [09:28] Samsung. [09:28] lordievader: wich version [09:28] Evo 850 [09:29] lordievader: nice, that one doesnt need firmware upgrading [09:29] lordievader: changing bios iDE to ahci, and doing all the ubuntu ssd tweaks [09:30] lordievader: fstab,swappiness [09:30] Already running ahci, and I am running Gentoo remember ;) [09:30] yeah :p [09:30] What are the 'Ubuntu ssd tweaks'? [09:31] lordievader: http://tinyurl.com/ctk2vbu [09:31] im having relatime in fstab, works best for desktop use [09:31] also the tmp fstab lines add [09:32] What 'tmp fstab lines'? [09:33] http://askubuntu.com/questions/78971/best-etc-fstab-setings-for-boosting-ssd-hdd [09:34] Heh, already doing that too ;) [09:34] well for the rest, your samsung hardware will do it all for you :p [09:35] !info preload [09:36] preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB [09:36] works also nice ssd [09:37] Already running that, also running/using prelink. [09:38] !info prelink [09:38] prelink (source: prelink): ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20130503-1 (vivid), package size 909 kB, installed size 1796 kB [09:39] can that be combined with preload harmless? [09:39] lotuspsychje: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Prelink [09:40] cool, you will rocknroll after ssd install :p [09:40] lordievader: dont forget to feedback :p [09:41] I'm still wondering how I'm going to do my dual luks container unlock... [09:42] I hope lvm lets me mount things with a partial vg. [09:42] dont have experience with lvm [09:43] http://www.wikiguga.com/topic/4509bd3598dd5b78880a7b422c420922 [09:45] Yeah, I was thinking about storing a key file on the ssd. [09:45] However if lvm doesn't allow mounting when the vg is partial (I do think it allow it though) this plan is blown. [09:49] lordievader: you could ask this in #ubuntu if that would work [09:49] Meh, I'll figure things out. [09:50] Probably won't be too difficult ;) [09:50] :p [14:51] lordievader: did you receive it yet? [14:51] afternoon to all [14:52] o/ [14:52] hi OerHeks :p [14:52] lotuspsychje: Jup it is rather fast. [14:52] yayyyy [14:52] what's that? [14:52] * daftykins is playing with Windows 10 today [14:53] daftykins: he ordered his samsung evo 850 [14:53] lordievader: how fast is boot, with wich Os? [14:53] ah har [14:53] Also added ram. And will add more when I dissasemble it. [14:53] lol [14:53] its gonna be a beast [14:54] lotuspsychje: ~20 seconds, but that is maily since I need to type my password twice. [14:54] Need to figure out how I can delay the second unlock till / is mounted. [15:04] lordievader: not sure on lvm :p find your way thru the tunnel :p [15:05] the 850 is pretty good [15:05] Meh, I'll mess with it later. Need to get things done. [15:05] TJ- might be able to help [15:05] I've got one here [15:05] thats out hardware spec [15:06] *our [15:07] TJ-: you got the evo or the pro [15:07] I've been developing a script to install to it fully encrypted, with detached LUKS header on an external device, also encrypted [15:07] 850 EVO [15:08] nice [15:09] it's the 500GB model, replacing a 750GB 7,200rpm SHD (flash/hard drive combo) [15:10] heavy [15:10] wich Os [15:10] 14.04 [15:10] and your boot time? [15:10] No idea, I never boot it [15:10] lol [15:11] anyone who is concerned about boot times isn't using the PC for anything serious. I'm interested in random I/O read/write latencies [15:12] time is money and slow boot times arent pleasant [15:13] oer@OerNest:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda [15:13] [sudo] password for oer: [15:13] Timing cached reads: 9010 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4506.69 MB/sec [15:13] Timing buffered disk reads: 558 MB in 3.00 seconds = 185.87 MB/sec [15:13] Why boot? I suspend/resume, but even 1 minute isn't going to affect anything. It's like those drivers that race about on short journeys waste loads of fuel and arrive maybe 4 seconds earlier [15:13] lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda [15:13] [sudo] password for lotuspsychje: [15:13] Timing cached reads: 1284 MB in 2.00 seconds = 641.17 MB/sec [15:13] Timing buffered disk reads: 442 MB in 3.02 seconds = 146.24 MB/sec [15:14] I run Windows a vm so I don't have to reboot ;) [15:16] Is it my week to get the deliberately annoying issues? [15:17] lol [15:17] TJ-: yep, short straw i'm afraid [15:17] we all drew this morning ;) [15:18] * TJ- rolls eyes and swears so much the dogs run and hide [15:19] this eein - I'm not convinced the target is even an Ubuntu server... I suspect Debian but I can't trust to get the results I ask for from the bad server [15:21] ask for an output of lsb_release [15:22] if they can't provide one, or it shows it's debian, refuse to help :) [15:22] I've got a pure mini pci-e flash drive as well, with its own on-board sata 3 controller... that's fast, sizes up to 128GB. I've also found it hangs the XPS laptops and one server when connected at boot-time, but is fine when hot-plugged. Seems to be a problem with it's Option ROM not behaving correctly with the system BIOSes [15:23] daftykins: I would, but I've asked for output twice and its been from a 'good' server both times despite everything! [15:23] o0 [15:23] TJ-: Ask for uname -a output? [15:24] I was planning on equipping all the laptops with the mini-pcie + spinning disks but got to work out the OROM problems with the manufacturer's engineers first [15:25] lordievader: I gave up because eein was giving me results from the good server even though I specifically asked for them from the bad server! I'm sure some people's brains just do not compute [15:26] I came to that same conclusion a couple of days ago in #ubuntu. Might be the reason I am no longer in there. [15:26] :P [15:26] TJ-: those sound a bit niche to me, is it standard PCI express 1x slots they're using, or? [15:26] oh sorry you did say mini-PCIE [15:26] M.2 is great [15:26] i've done a build where there's a 2x or 4x M.2 slot directly on the motherboard below the CPU socket, super fast boot [15:27] power button, first thing you see is the windows 7 boot logo which doesn't even get a chance to complete - then bam, desktop [15:29] TJ-: someone screams for help.. :p [15:29] yeah. Well I fixed on XPS M1530s ages ago - all our laptops are identical, with the 1920x1200 LCD, 8GB RAM, T7200 core2duo, Bluetooth, Cellular 4G, dual-band MIMO Wifi... the XPSs have the ExpressCard plus 3 full mini-PCIe slots (not cut-downs with only USB or mSATA on) so they're highly flexible and expandable. [15:32] like on my main PC I use the ExpressCard to connect an external ViDock PCIe expander, which has the Nvidia NVS420 dual GPU driving 4 additional monitors [15:34] what you guys think of this: [15:34] http://news.softpedia.com/news/entroware-now-sells-the-ubuntu-powered-proteus-with-a-new-card-487975.shtml [15:35] weird spec [15:35] pairing a low end i3 with a 2GB nvidia GTX 960M [15:35] oh i7 options too [15:36] yeah and samsung 850 in configurator [15:36] intel wifi [15:37] i wanna make the hd unchoosable in my store [15:37] only 850 pro inside [15:38] lotuspsychje: Why? Not everyone is looking for top performance, some just want something cheap. [15:38] then choose a lower 850 pro 120gig [15:38] i dont wanna go lower then 850 pro [15:38] 850 EVO for cheap, Pro for top? :) [15:39] brb dinner [15:39] what are we having? :) [15:42] chips! [15:45] 8D [15:53] lol this is lotus' wife [15:53] are you laughing with my spaghetti [16:00] lotuspsychje: hi! what are we having with spaghetti? :) [16:01] nom nom spagetti [16:01] Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs :) [16:01] secret ingredients and herbs, garlic :)) [16:02] and wine. lots of wine. [16:02] yammie lol [16:02] please do not install more than 512 apps in windows 10 [16:03] the hole channel is hungryy [16:05] what the heck! the Drone just accused me of flooding! [16:05] Any ops can remove the -q on me? That's ridiculous [16:05] Apparently I can type as fast as others paste! [16:05] :) yep i've been there [16:06] it'll go off in a few seconds [16:06] * TJ- plots ot murder Drone [16:07] lotuspsychje likes many garlic [16:07] TJ-: you might have to wake up #ubuntu-ops [16:07] if it doesn't go shortly [16:07] ah no there you go [16:07] :) [16:07] I don't think he's a vampire [16:08] It just went :) [16:11] lotuspsychje: he'd not survive :> [16:12] lol I'm gonna take over his position here [16:24] real lotus back :p and survived dinner [16:27] lotuspsychje, I am SO jealous. there you full of wine, spaghetti and garlic bread ... and I can't find a decent source here in Beijing. [16:28] cfhowlett: you serious? no spaghetti in china? [16:29] cfhowlett: my wife says she will cook spaghetti for you :p [16:29] lotuspsychje, no decent spaghetti. Worse and stranger, no REAL garlic bread. It's all sweet buttered but no garlic seasoning [16:29] lotuspsychje, ah, you gotta a keeper, there, m8. [16:30] :p:p [16:31] cfhowlett: and im always jaleous when i enter chinese restaurant and seeing the famillies eating dinner bowl soup with noodles with all kinds of ingredients in it, and i cant order that on the menu [16:32] "jayga" "nayga" = this that [16:32] mmmm lemme google picture that [16:32] point and shoot. works for me : [16:32] :) [16:32] tis your Chinese lesson for the day. [16:33] hmm no photo's [16:37] cfhowlett: wich one is it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_soups [16:38] lotuspsychje, jaga = "that one" naga = "this one". If you don't speak Chinese, which I don't, this is how you can order. [16:39] ah [17:03] :D [19:00] Bashing-om: greetings mate [19:13] lotuspsychje: \o 'Tis a good day in our neighborhood . [19:13] sun shining? [19:17] ^ and then some - heat index of 108 degress F ! I am going to hog the AC . [19:17] wow [19:17] 2015 is a really hot year for the world [19:23] lotuspsychje: Global Warming and climate change -> Wars for subsistence are comming . [19:25] Bashing-om: alot of poor nations flewing to all sides of the world already [19:26] lotuspsychje_, we are the poor, in the west [19:26] lol [19:27] OerHeks: ok lets immigrate to africa and play ubuntu circle :p [19:27] why afrika? [19:27] thats where ubuntu started? [19:28] and if were poor, they might be rich? [19:28] lets immigrate to Cuba [19:28] salsa and cigares mmm === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [20:26] wb daftykins [20:28] o/ [20:28] thanks! home tubes went down it seems [20:28] how's it going? [20:28] good ta, just upgraded my desktop from win7 to 10 [20:28] cool [20:28] how do you like it? [20:28] been using the preview since Decemberish, definitely really nice :) lighter even than 7 [20:28] just the usual learning curve of course [20:29] cool [20:30] Wife just upgraded her graphics work station to Win 10. She is impressed with 10. [20:30] is it free to upgrade if you have win8? [20:32] nice [20:33] EriC^^: Yes, in her case, was a free offer . [20:33] nice, it looks very sleek [20:34] http://www.windowscentral.com/official-windows-10-iso-files-now-available-download [20:34] both 7 and 8 yep [20:35] unfortunately booting straight off the ISO doesn't work, you have to do an upgrade first :( [20:35] which amusingly has left my copy not activated right now, figure i'll give MS support lines a break before i ring up again ;) [20:35] got cut off earlier, i'm sure they're absolutely swamped with users [20:36] yeah [20:37] well that's awesome [20:37] I watched her do the upgrade this AM, it was and is sleek. MS do something right ? , was slick and a very friendly composition . [20:39] :D [20:39] i'm still gonna do a clean one i think [20:39] nothing like a properly clean install as a good foundation to start! [20:39] yeah [20:40] ^ 100 % [20:43] not hugely clear on how it works right now, couldn't feed it by 7 key, so perhaps once the upgrade is activated it'll *know* my system online and just work o0 [20:43] s/by/my [20:43] lol cat at the window miaowing as if to be let in [20:43] best go remind her she has a flap