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JaguarDownHey does anybody use ddclient? I have a simple question which I couldn't find the answer to on their website.00:34
JaguarDownI want to update my IP address since I am running a home server and the IP from my ISP may change. My domain is with godaddy who apparently doesn't offer a straightfoward service to do this.00:35
JaguarDownAfter reading on a website I simply changed the dns name servers to ones from freedns.afraid.org00:35
JaguarDownAnyway, on my godaddy account I changed them to ns1.afraid.org, ns2, ns3, ns4, etc. My question is in the config file for ddclient under the "server" field will simply "freedns.afraid.org" suffice or do I need to explicitly list the dns name servers?00:36
JaguarDownI had a free subdomain from freedns.afraid.org previously with ddclient running to update my IP and this is how it was configured before so I am assuming it will work.00:36
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jak2000how to change the resolv.conf permanently i am change and when restart resolv.conf is empty03:23
tewardjak2000: do you use /etc/network/interfaces to manage your interfaces?  If so, add these lines to the configuration stanzas for your interfaces: dns-nameservers 1.2.3.403:28
jak2000teward ok testing03:58
jak2000restarted the virtual server03:58
lordievaderGood morning.06:55
arcskyhey guys whats the differnt between DNS server and a DNS proxy?08:35
lordievaderarcsky: A DNS server actually resolves urls where a proxy forwards requests to another server (usually caching the replies).08:46
arcskylordievader: thanks i undertand now08:49
lordievaderarcsky: :)08:49
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tewardhmm... where can I report a problem with landscape-client that isn't isolated to one specific release11:58
teward(12.04, and 14.04, both have the same problem)11:58
teward(and i will do further tests today to confirm11:59
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iclebytethe new bind9 vuln - USN-2693-1 only references ubuntu 12.04/14.04/15.04 - is 10.04 affected or just no updates available for it as EOL ?12:05
rbasak10.04 is EOL, so no updates.12:06
iclebytethought so.12:07
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rbasakNobody will have checked whether 10.04 is vulnerable or not. It may not be. But it's certainly vulnerable in a ton of other ways by now.12:10
iclebyteagreed.12:15
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Amillohey guys, having some trouble mounting my nfs anyone got any ideas why it's denying me access?12:52
pmatulisAmillo: provide more info. configuration, command & output, logs, etc13:03
AmilloGetting someone to take a look at it now, I'll come back if he's unsuccesful - thanks though13:15
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med_Daviey, jamespage, zul: python-neutronclient in UCA Kilo don't work19:55
med_needs at least 2.4.019:55
med_2.3.11 is too old.19:56
med_please look at bug #147949619:56
ubottubug 1479496 in python-neutronclient (Ubuntu) "python-neutronclient 1:2.3.11 doesn't work with Kilo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147949619:56
med_in a large network environment, it doesn't work.19:56
med_(it worked fine in Juno with the same networks but doesn't in Kilo as something in neutron must be changing & reporting differently.)19:57
med_it breaks things consequently as the python-neutronclient library is used by ... neutron, nova, etc.19:57
Davieymed_: Based on what you have said, it must also be true that it is broken in Ubuntu Vivid and neutron upstream has a poor lower version of neutronclient in requirements.txt19:59
tewardwheeee, useful bug data is useful20:03
tewardalthough i typo'd my apport hooks.  oops.20:03
tewardsarnold: rbasak: it's definitely GREAT to have usable debug data for nginx now isn't it xD   (lot more 'invalid!' bugs :P)20:04
dasjoeAny idea where ast_dp501_fw.bin would be available from Ubuntu's repos? "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/ast_dp501_fw.bin for module ast"20:05
alximychhi! I manually installed and succesfully started tomcat8 on ubuntu machine. But I can not see tomcat8 among services. What do I have to do to be able to start/stop/status tomcat8 from "sudo service tomcat8 start"? A manual for dummies would be much of help, thanks!20:07
Davieymed_: If it is easy to reproduce, i'd be tempted to git bisect the client :)20:07
med_it's already fixed in the upstream client20:07
med_we just need it....20:07
med_https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-neutronclient/commit/?id=4b6ed760d4303744907feefd81e60f38ae3750ef20:07
med_in UCA20:07
med_thanks Daviey20:08
med_which means an older client MIGHT work.20:09
Davieymed_: The normal process for UCA updates is to get it fixed in the Ubuntu release that tracks the OpenStack release, in this instance it is Ubuntu Vivid.  So a normal SRU then, then a copy to UCA.20:10
med_gotcha20:11
Davieymed_: but funnily enough, Ubuntu Cloud Archive isn't a Ubuntu deliverable :)... So you'll need to speak to someone at Canonical for that :)20:11
med_(and yes, I'd forgotten that much)20:11
med_truestory.20:11
K4kWhen locking down the grub2 prompt, I set the password_pbkdf2 line in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and update-grub yells at me. It complains that "password_pbkdf2 is not found"20:13
K4kI've set this up per the documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords#Password_Encryption20:13
Davieymed_: But if you want to propose it to stable/kilo upstream openstack/python-neutronclient, i can +2 it there... and I can also help SRU it to vivid. :)20:14
med_nod20:14
med_working on that20:14
med_realigning my ducks.20:14
med_oh, already fixed in stable/kilo20:14
med_which is using 2.4.020:15
med_unfortunately, vivid didn't update the clients (enough)20:15
Davieymed_: Sadly, *just* missed the neutronclient point release by a few hours...20:15
Daviey(This is another reason point releases suck)20:15
Davieyoh20:16
Davieymed_: There is now  stable/kilo branch of neutronclient, doesn't seem fixed there20:17
med_Daviey, I see the "Reinstate MAX URI length checking" in a git clone of python-neutronclient in the stable/kilo branch.20:19
med_a403265ea1483e53b93bdb2d60493a9a9e1eb0bc20:19
med_merges20:19
med_4b6ed760d4303744907feefd81e60f38ae3750ef20:19
med_so merged on Mar 11, 201520:20
K4kWow, the Ubuntu community docs can be so so terribly unclear sometimes20:21
Davieymed_: Ah! you are right20:22
DavieySo.. the minimum versions needs to be 2.6.0 ?20:23
med_no, even 2.4.0 works20:24
* med_ double checks20:25
med_yep, 2.4.0 has it20:25
med_so I'm fine with a debina/patch that cherrypicks the change or a newer version Daviey20:25
K4kHow do you boot 14.04 in to single user mode?20:29
K4kI've added "single" to the end of the "linux" line but it just goes to a black screen20:29
TJ-K4k: black-screen probably means you need "nomodeset" as well - the video DRM is not properly supporting mode-setting20:32
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LewsTherinAnyone have recommended specs for a mailserver with dovecot, postfix, squirrelmail and a user management UI? Ubuntu 14.04.21:38
LewsTherinWas redirected here from #ubuntu, with an opinion 2core 2GB might be enough.21:39
SlingLewsTherin: for how many users? what kind of mail volume?21:41
LewsTherinCouple emails a day, about 40-50 users.21:41
LewsTherinEmails will be deleted once retrieved.21:41
Slingsounds about right then those specs21:42
LewsTherinOk, thanks.21:42
LewsTherinWhat about HDD space?21:42
LewsTherinmaybe 5-10GB?21:42
Slingare the users mailboxes limited by quota?21:42
Slingyou might want to do that with 40-50 users21:42
LewsTherinProbably won't be.21:43
LewsTherinHm, ok.21:43
LewsTherinIt's part of an automation system, so emails probably won't be on there too long.21:43
Slingwell yeah one imap fetch messup and itll be filled with emails :)21:43
Slingbut just keep the mail data on a separate partition at least21:44
LewsTherinWe'll mainly being using POP, due to requirements of the services that will be connecting in.21:44
LewsTherinOk, so a 5GB partition for system, 20GB for mail?21:45
LewsTherinJust guessing here.21:45
sarnoldhow large can your user's inboxes be with just 20gigs? I've got ~1.5 gigs in my ~/.mail_cache/ at the moment, not sure how much actual storage on the server that requires21:49
tonyyarussoLewsTherin: I don't have as many users, but probably a higher volume per day per user, and I'm running it on a single core with 1GB RAM with no problems at all.21:49
tonyyarussoMy particular users are up to about 9GB of disk space at the moment, but that number would vary wildly.21:50
tonyyarusso(Ours are IMAP, keeping stuff on the server permanently)21:50
tonyyarussoIf you're POPing everything down within a month or less I'd think 20G should be plenty.21:51
LewsTherinOk21:53
HikaruBGhi guys21:56
HikaruBGI have to run node js server on a remote ubuntu server via SSH21:57
HikaruBGI can run it, but once I close the ssh session - the server is down21:57
tewardscreen21:57
HikaruBGhow can I create server daemon21:57
bekksHikaruBG: you could create an init script, or just run your node js thing in screen, or using nohup.21:58
tewardeither run it with & at the end which sends it to the background, or use `screen` and run node.js from there,21:58
tewardor nohup which is also a slution21:58
bekksUsing screen gives you somehow more control, in case it throws console messages.21:58
sarnoldscreen means you'd have to deal with it again next reboot; I'd go to the trouble of making an initscript or upstart config file for it, that way you don't have to think of it the next reboot :)21:58
teward^ that21:58
tewardheheh21:59
tewardsarnold: unless it needs manual startup, say, because it needs credentials or a pw or something set up, which would be odd but still21:59
teward:p21:59
sarnoldteward: eh, good point, ssl privkey or something..22:00
tewardmhm22:00
bekksI never dealt with nodejs - what is this thing?22:01
tewardbekks: another webapp solution22:01
bekksWhat is it for?22:01
tewardweb applications :p22:01
tewardhttps://nodejs.org/22:01
sarnoldbekks: server-side javascript22:01
sarnoldbekks: for folks who just can't get enough callback hell :)22:01
teward"Node.js is an open source, cross-platform runtime environment for server-side and networking applications. Node.js applications are written in JavaScript and can be run within the Node.js runtime on OS X, Microsoft Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, NonStop, IBM AIX, IBM System z and IBM i."22:01
tewardbasically server-side javascript for people who want to intentionally torture themselves :P22:02
bekksJavascript - that crap used for dynamic menus and stuff?22:02
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tewardmhm22:02
rbasakteward: :)22:03
tewardrbasak: hello!22:03
tewardlong time no talk :P22:03
tewardfor the record, Landscape makes managing 8 Ubuntu Server VMs real simple - one location to rule them all :P22:04
teward(+1 for Landscape :P)22:04
rbasakNice!22:04
tewardoh that reminds me22:05
tewardwhere can i make a bugreport/complaint about it?22:05
tewardgiven i'm on LDS, not the cloud service, canonical has no obligation to listen :P22:05
bekksteward: that landscape thing - how much does it cost to manage my 5 Ubuntu instances at home?22:05
tewardbekks: zero if you set it up on a server yourself.  10 physical machines, 10 Virtual machines, with the 'free' license - http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use22:06
tewardpast that you have to pay per system22:06
bekksteward: Thanks a lot :)22:06
tewardand I forget how much it is per22:06
tewardthat's a question for canonical sales22:06
bekksI'd not reach that limit at home :)22:06
tewardbekks: nor would I, even at work - 6 VMs all managed and accounted for, one central location, soon to be 722:07
bekksteward: And it isnt a big problem to retire an old VM and set another vm in place?22:07
tewardbekks: you can remove a computer, which opens up its license slot for use22:09
tewardbekks: http://i.imgur.com/GIhq3qV.png  <-- remove computer button right there22:09
bekksteward: Ah ok - thats good to know. A few of my VMs wont live that long and are replaced by new ones quite regularly.22:09
tewardit asks if you want to confirm it, and says "Deleting this will remove it from the system, and will free up a license slot for another system." or something similar22:09
tewardi have two landscape instances i work with... one at work and one for my own systems22:10
bekksI guess thats a good way to go then.22:10
tewardbekks: configuration was a pain22:10
bekksteward: ouch22:10
tewardi had to use actual SSL certs22:10
tewardbecause even when the custom CA certs are validated by the world, landscape-client won't work with it22:10
teward(and by 'the world' i mean the test lab I tested it on)22:10
tewardhence my wanting to bug-report on the client22:11
bekksWell, that sounds like I want to implement an ansible instance instead22:11
tewardbekks: probably is, but since my domain is wildcarded... :p22:11
bekksI'll take a look into both - ansible would be a good deal, since it supports more OS than landscape.22:12
tewardright22:12
tewardthe enviros i'm in those're all Ubuntu boxes22:12
tewardVM or physical22:12
tewardwon't help for other OSes22:12
bekksI have a few other here, like Solaris, Windows, etc.22:13
tewardmhm22:16
tonyyarussosarnold: FWIW, I have actually run things in screen on startup using the magic @reboot cron time.  An init script would be better for most things though.22:22
tonyyarusso(I've used that to launch my irssi session.)22:22
sarnoldtonyyarusso: hah, I've never thought to combine @reboot with screen :)22:22
tonyyarussoYou just have to use the right flags for start detached.22:23
tonyyarussoWorks well for things that should launch at startup, but that you will be manually interacting with later.22:23
sarnoldirssi is a good candidate for that22:26
tewardurgh i hate it when init scripts do bad pidfile parsing >.<23:17
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trippehurgh i hate pidfiles >.< there fixed it ;)23:24

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