[00:34] <JaguarDown> Hey does anybody use ddclient? I have a simple question which I couldn't find the answer to on their website.
[00:35] <JaguarDown> I want to update my IP address since I am running a home server and the IP from my ISP may change. My domain is with godaddy who apparently doesn't offer a straightfoward service to do this.
[00:35] <JaguarDown> After reading on a website I simply changed the dns name servers to ones from freedns.afraid.org
[00:36] <JaguarDown> Anyway, on my godaddy account I changed them to ns1.afraid.org, ns2, ns3, ns4, etc. My question is in the config file for ddclient under the "server" field will simply "freedns.afraid.org" suffice or do I need to explicitly list the dns name servers?
[00:36] <JaguarDown> I had a free subdomain from freedns.afraid.org previously with ddclient running to update my IP and this is how it was configured before so I am assuming it will work.
[03:23] <jak2000> how to change the resolv.conf permanently i am change and when restart resolv.conf is empty
[03:28] <teward> jak2000: do you use /etc/network/interfaces to manage your interfaces?  If so, add these lines to the configuration stanzas for your interfaces: dns-nameservers 1.2.3.4
[03:58] <jak2000> teward ok testing
[03:58] <jak2000> restarted the virtual server
[06:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:35] <arcsky> hey guys whats the differnt between DNS server and a DNS proxy?
[08:46] <lordievader> arcsky: A DNS server actually resolves urls where a proxy forwards requests to another server (usually caching the replies).
[08:49] <arcsky> lordievader: thanks i undertand now
[08:49] <lordievader> arcsky: :)
[11:58] <teward> hmm... where can I report a problem with landscape-client that isn't isolated to one specific release
[11:58] <teward> (12.04, and 14.04, both have the same problem)
[11:59] <teward> (and i will do further tests today to confirm
[12:05] <iclebyte> the new bind9 vuln - USN-2693-1 only references ubuntu 12.04/14.04/15.04 - is 10.04 affected or just no updates available for it as EOL ?
[12:06] <rbasak> 10.04 is EOL, so no updates.
[12:07] <iclebyte> thought so.
[12:10] <rbasak> Nobody will have checked whether 10.04 is vulnerable or not. It may not be. But it's certainly vulnerable in a ton of other ways by now.
[12:15] <iclebyte> agreed.
[12:52] <Amillo> hey guys, having some trouble mounting my nfs anyone got any ideas why it's denying me access?
[13:03] <pmatulis> Amillo: provide more info. configuration, command & output, logs, etc
[13:15] <Amillo> Getting someone to take a look at it now, I'll come back if he's unsuccesful - thanks though
[19:55] <med_> Daviey, jamespage, zul: python-neutronclient in UCA Kilo don't work
[19:55] <med_> needs at least 2.4.0
[19:56] <med_> 2.3.11 is too old.
[19:56] <med_> please look at bug #1479496
[19:56] <med_> in a large network environment, it doesn't work.
[19:57] <med_> (it worked fine in Juno with the same networks but doesn't in Kilo as something in neutron must be changing & reporting differently.)
[19:57] <med_> it breaks things consequently as the python-neutronclient library is used by ... neutron, nova, etc.
[19:59] <Daviey> med_: Based on what you have said, it must also be true that it is broken in Ubuntu Vivid and neutron upstream has a poor lower version of neutronclient in requirements.txt
[20:03] <teward> wheeee, useful bug data is useful
[20:03] <teward> although i typo'd my apport hooks.  oops.
[20:04] <teward> sarnold: rbasak: it's definitely GREAT to have usable debug data for nginx now isn't it xD   (lot more 'invalid!' bugs :P)
[20:05] <dasjoe> Any idea where ast_dp501_fw.bin would be available from Ubuntu's repos? "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/ast_dp501_fw.bin for module ast"
[20:07] <alximych> hi! I manually installed and succesfully started tomcat8 on ubuntu machine. But I can not see tomcat8 among services. What do I have to do to be able to start/stop/status tomcat8 from "sudo service tomcat8 start"? A manual for dummies would be much of help, thanks!
[20:07] <Daviey> med_: If it is easy to reproduce, i'd be tempted to git bisect the client :)
[20:07] <med_> it's already fixed in the upstream client
[20:07] <med_> we just need it....
[20:07] <med_> https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-neutronclient/commit/?id=4b6ed760d4303744907feefd81e60f38ae3750ef
[20:07] <med_> in UCA
[20:08] <med_> thanks Daviey
[20:09] <med_> which means an older client MIGHT work.
[20:10] <Daviey> med_: The normal process for UCA updates is to get it fixed in the Ubuntu release that tracks the OpenStack release, in this instance it is Ubuntu Vivid.  So a normal SRU then, then a copy to UCA.
[20:11] <med_> gotcha
[20:11] <Daviey> med_: but funnily enough, Ubuntu Cloud Archive isn't a Ubuntu deliverable :)... So you'll need to speak to someone at Canonical for that :)
[20:11] <med_> (and yes, I'd forgotten that much)
[20:11] <med_> truestory.
[20:13] <K4k> When locking down the grub2 prompt, I set the password_pbkdf2 line in /etc/grub.d/40_custom and update-grub yells at me. It complains that "password_pbkdf2 is not found"
[20:13] <K4k> I've set this up per the documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords#Password_Encryption
[20:14] <Daviey> med_: But if you want to propose it to stable/kilo upstream openstack/python-neutronclient, i can +2 it there... and I can also help SRU it to vivid. :)
[20:14] <med_> nod
[20:14] <med_> working on that
[20:14] <med_> realigning my ducks.
[20:14] <med_> oh, already fixed in stable/kilo
[20:15] <med_> which is using 2.4.0
[20:15] <med_> unfortunately, vivid didn't update the clients (enough)
[20:15] <Daviey> med_: Sadly, *just* missed the neutronclient point release by a few hours...
[20:15] <Daviey> (This is another reason point releases suck)
[20:16] <Daviey> oh
[20:17] <Daviey> med_: There is now  stable/kilo branch of neutronclient, doesn't seem fixed there
[20:19] <med_> Daviey, I see the "Reinstate MAX URI length checking" in a git clone of python-neutronclient in the stable/kilo branch.
[20:19] <med_> a403265ea1483e53b93bdb2d60493a9a9e1eb0bc
[20:19] <med_> merges
[20:19] <med_> 4b6ed760d4303744907feefd81e60f38ae3750ef
[20:20] <med_> so merged on Mar 11, 2015
[20:21] <K4k> Wow, the Ubuntu community docs can be so so terribly unclear sometimes
[20:22] <Daviey> med_: Ah! you are right
[20:23] <Daviey> So.. the minimum versions needs to be 2.6.0 ?
[20:24] <med_> no, even 2.4.0 works
[20:25]  * med_ double checks
[20:25] <med_> yep, 2.4.0 has it
[20:25] <med_> so I'm fine with a debina/patch that cherrypicks the change or a newer version Daviey
[20:29] <K4k> How do you boot 14.04 in to single user mode?
[20:29] <K4k> I've added "single" to the end of the "linux" line but it just goes to a black screen
[20:32] <TJ-> K4k: black-screen probably means you need "nomodeset" as well - the video DRM is not properly supporting mode-setting
[21:38] <LewsTherin> Anyone have recommended specs for a mailserver with dovecot, postfix, squirrelmail and a user management UI? Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:39] <LewsTherin> Was redirected here from #ubuntu, with an opinion 2core 2GB might be enough.
[21:41] <Sling> LewsTherin: for how many users? what kind of mail volume?
[21:41] <LewsTherin> Couple emails a day, about 40-50 users.
[21:41] <LewsTherin> Emails will be deleted once retrieved.
[21:42] <Sling> sounds about right then those specs
[21:42] <LewsTherin> Ok, thanks.
[21:42] <LewsTherin> What about HDD space?
[21:42] <LewsTherin> maybe 5-10GB?
[21:42] <Sling> are the users mailboxes limited by quota?
[21:42] <Sling> you might want to do that with 40-50 users
[21:43] <LewsTherin> Probably won't be.
[21:43] <LewsTherin> Hm, ok.
[21:43] <LewsTherin> It's part of an automation system, so emails probably won't be on there too long.
[21:43] <Sling> well yeah one imap fetch messup and itll be filled with emails :)
[21:44] <Sling> but just keep the mail data on a separate partition at least
[21:44] <LewsTherin> We'll mainly being using POP, due to requirements of the services that will be connecting in.
[21:45] <LewsTherin> Ok, so a 5GB partition for system, 20GB for mail?
[21:45] <LewsTherin> Just guessing here.
[21:49] <sarnold> how large can your user's inboxes be with just 20gigs? I've got ~1.5 gigs in my ~/.mail_cache/ at the moment, not sure how much actual storage on the server that requires
[21:49] <tonyyarusso> LewsTherin: I don't have as many users, but probably a higher volume per day per user, and I'm running it on a single core with 1GB RAM with no problems at all.
[21:50] <tonyyarusso> My particular users are up to about 9GB of disk space at the moment, but that number would vary wildly.
[21:50] <tonyyarusso> (Ours are IMAP, keeping stuff on the server permanently)
[21:51] <tonyyarusso> If you're POPing everything down within a month or less I'd think 20G should be plenty.
[21:53] <LewsTherin> Ok
[21:56] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[21:57] <HikaruBG> I have to run node js server on a remote ubuntu server via SSH
[21:57] <HikaruBG> I can run it, but once I close the ssh session - the server is down
[21:57] <teward> screen
[21:57] <HikaruBG> how can I create server daemon
[21:58] <bekks> HikaruBG: you could create an init script, or just run your node js thing in screen, or using nohup.
[21:58] <teward> either run it with & at the end which sends it to the background, or use `screen` and run node.js from there,
[21:58] <teward> or nohup which is also a slution
[21:58] <bekks> Using screen gives you somehow more control, in case it throws console messages.
[21:58] <sarnold> screen means you'd have to deal with it again next reboot; I'd go to the trouble of making an initscript or upstart config file for it, that way you don't have to think of it the next reboot :)
[21:58] <teward> ^ that
[21:59] <teward> heheh
[21:59] <teward> sarnold: unless it needs manual startup, say, because it needs credentials or a pw or something set up, which would be odd but still
[21:59] <teward> :p
[22:00] <sarnold> teward: eh, good point, ssl privkey or something..
[22:00] <teward> mhm
[22:01] <bekks> I never dealt with nodejs - what is this thing?
[22:01] <teward> bekks: another webapp solution
[22:01] <bekks> What is it for?
[22:01] <teward> web applications :p
[22:01] <teward> https://nodejs.org/
[22:01] <sarnold> bekks: server-side javascript
[22:01] <sarnold> bekks: for folks who just can't get enough callback hell :)
[22:01] <teward> "Node.js is an open source, cross-platform runtime environment for server-side and networking applications. Node.js applications are written in JavaScript and can be run within the Node.js runtime on OS X, Microsoft Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, NonStop, IBM AIX, IBM System z and IBM i."
[22:02] <teward> basically server-side javascript for people who want to intentionally torture themselves :P
[22:02] <bekks> Javascript - that crap used for dynamic menus and stuff?
[22:02] <teward> mhm
[22:03] <rbasak> teward: :)
[22:03] <teward> rbasak: hello!
[22:03] <teward> long time no talk :P
[22:04] <teward> for the record, Landscape makes managing 8 Ubuntu Server VMs real simple - one location to rule them all :P
[22:04] <teward> (+1 for Landscape :P)
[22:04] <rbasak> Nice!
[22:05] <teward> oh that reminds me
[22:05] <teward> where can i make a bugreport/complaint about it?
[22:05] <teward> given i'm on LDS, not the cloud service, canonical has no obligation to listen :P
[22:05] <bekks> teward: that landscape thing - how much does it cost to manage my 5 Ubuntu instances at home?
[22:06] <teward> bekks: zero if you set it up on a server yourself.  10 physical machines, 10 Virtual machines, with the 'free' license - http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use
[22:06] <teward> past that you have to pay per system
[22:06] <bekks> teward: Thanks a lot :)
[22:06] <teward> and I forget how much it is per
[22:06] <teward> that's a question for canonical sales
[22:06] <bekks> I'd not reach that limit at home :)
[22:07] <teward> bekks: nor would I, even at work - 6 VMs all managed and accounted for, one central location, soon to be 7
[22:07] <bekks> teward: And it isnt a big problem to retire an old VM and set another vm in place?
[22:09] <teward> bekks: you can remove a computer, which opens up its license slot for use
[22:09] <teward> bekks: http://i.imgur.com/GIhq3qV.png  <-- remove computer button right there
[22:09] <bekks> teward: Ah ok - thats good to know. A few of my VMs wont live that long and are replaced by new ones quite regularly.
[22:09] <teward> it asks if you want to confirm it, and says "Deleting this will remove it from the system, and will free up a license slot for another system." or something similar
[22:10] <teward> i have two landscape instances i work with... one at work and one for my own systems
[22:10] <bekks> I guess thats a good way to go then.
[22:10] <teward> bekks: configuration was a pain
[22:10] <bekks> teward: ouch
[22:10] <teward> i had to use actual SSL certs
[22:10] <teward> because even when the custom CA certs are validated by the world, landscape-client won't work with it
[22:10] <teward> (and by 'the world' i mean the test lab I tested it on)
[22:11] <teward> hence my wanting to bug-report on the client
[22:11] <bekks> Well, that sounds like I want to implement an ansible instance instead
[22:11] <teward> bekks: probably is, but since my domain is wildcarded... :p
[22:12] <bekks> I'll take a look into both - ansible would be a good deal, since it supports more OS than landscape.
[22:12] <teward> right
[22:12] <teward> the enviros i'm in those're all Ubuntu boxes
[22:12] <teward> VM or physical
[22:12] <teward> won't help for other OSes
[22:13] <bekks> I have a few other here, like Solaris, Windows, etc.
[22:16] <teward> mhm
[22:22] <tonyyarusso> sarnold: FWIW, I have actually run things in screen on startup using the magic @reboot cron time.  An init script would be better for most things though.
[22:22] <tonyyarusso> (I've used that to launch my irssi session.)
[22:22] <sarnold> tonyyarusso: hah, I've never thought to combine @reboot with screen :)
[22:23] <tonyyarusso> You just have to use the right flags for start detached.
[22:23] <tonyyarusso> Works well for things that should launch at startup, but that you will be manually interacting with later.
[22:26] <sarnold> irssi is a good candidate for that
[23:17] <teward> urgh i hate it when init scripts do bad pidfile parsing >.<
[23:24] <trippeh> urgh i hate pidfiles >.< there fixed it ;)