| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| * diddledan blows raspberries | 03:46 | |
| shauno | go to sleep :| | 03:46 |
|---|---|---|
| diddledan | aww | 03:46 |
| mapito | hey | 05:52 |
| diddledan | mornin | 05:53 |
| knightwise | hey diddledan | 05:54 |
| knightwise | you're up early | 05:54 |
| diddledan | well technically I'm up late | 05:54 |
| diddledan | it's just that late happens to be early | 05:54 |
| knightwise | Lol :) | 05:54 |
| knightwise | pulling an all nighter , | 05:55 |
| diddledan | :-p | 05:55 |
| knightwise | i'm still a little tired , got to bed late yesterday , went to the movies | 05:56 |
| mapito | what did you see] | 05:57 |
| knightwise | jurassic world | 05:57 |
| mapito | ah cool | 05:57 |
| mapito | seen it:D | 05:57 |
| knightwise | entertaining but .. that was about it | 05:57 |
| mapito | seen terminator genisys? agree knightwise | 05:57 |
| mapito | went to cinema an d saw terminator on my own..like a real loser:D | 05:57 |
| knightwise | probably gonna see terminator next week | 05:58 |
| knightwise | we found a nice cinema that is pretty cheap | 05:58 |
| knightwise | watched the first 5 minutes of Jurassic world with my eyes closed just to enjoy the main theme by john williams. | 05:59 |
| mapito | heh | 05:59 |
| knightwise | i'm a soundtrack lover | 05:59 |
| diddledan | I love soundtracks, too | 05:59 |
| diddledan | john williams especially | 06:00 |
| knightwise | john williams, james horner, brad fiedel, hans zimmer ... | 06:00 |
| diddledan | he's amazeballs | 06:00 |
| knightwise | all great composers | 06:00 |
| knightwise | brad fiedel did the original terminator movie | 06:00 |
| knightwise | and the second one , that great tradck where they use an anvill to punch out the beat | 06:00 |
| diddledan | yeah that one with the anvil is wow | 06:01 |
| knightwise | Hans zimmer did the rock and gladiator. | 06:01 |
| diddledan | there's a lot of industrial overlaid with smooth synth | 06:01 |
| knightwise | if you want a nice soundtrack for the end of the world you need to call this guy | 06:02 |
| diddledan | odd. just reloaded win10iot onto my rpi with the "it's not really RTM" build, and the mac address has subtly altered - either the old build or the new one read it from the hardware wrong - there's a transposed byte: old=b8:27:eb:b3:67:0f new=b8:27:eb:0b:36:7f | 06:07 |
| diddledan | note the 0 moving from the last 0f to insert in-bwteen eb and b3 | 06:08 |
| mapito | this bbc show is utter dross | 06:19 |
| mapito | britains bookies..about coral and punters | 06:19 |
| mapito | guy who claims he's a pro etting £120 to win £1k ..then in the bookies betting on the garbage BAGs | 06:20 |
| mapito | another idiot 'i look at people who dont have a bet on a saturday and can't understand how they can do that' | 06:22 |
| mapito | night | 06:40 |
| mapito | off to my pool of sweat | 06:40 |
| mapito | cant wait to get ac | 06:40 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:32 |
| knightwise | mornin davmor2 | 08:34 |
| davmor2 | Bit of tatu this morning added to the playlist | 08:35 |
| knightwise | tatu .. as in the russian pop band ? | 08:37 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: yes I have a morning head song playlist where I add the track that happens to be stuck in my head that morning today is Tatu All the things she said | 08:42 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: it's a really mad mix of music | 08:43 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:43 |
| knightwise | davmor2: i remrmber them | 08:44 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Rain Day! 😃 | 09:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm in ireland, this is different how exactly? :-) | 09:12 |
| JamesTait | https://youtu.be/esEdC0c3YI4 | 09:13 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs_T_cEoX6I | 09:16 |
| * bashrc waits for happy rain | 09:26 | |
| zmoylan-pi | the rain that falls just after you've got home and put the kettle on? | 09:28 |
| * zmoylan-pi puts kettle on for coffee | 09:36 | |
| * bashrc watched jono's review of the latest ubuntuphone | 09:40 | |
| zmoylan-pi | time to move laptop from desk it's sat on for 3 years, 5 seconds, time to take power supply... 5 minutes. | 09:43 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:43 |
| === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait | ||
| foobarry | playin donkey kong country returns on the wii | 10:52 |
| foobarry | because i'm 86% through the game. i need to complete it | 10:52 |
| foobarry | but its actually reallly hard | 10:53 |
| zmoylan-pi | proper video games are | 10:53 |
| foobarry | quite old skool in that you have to play levels 20 times sometimes | 10:53 |
| foobarry | and learn them | 10:53 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| diddledan | how long till sourceforge disappears? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/28/dice_to_unload_slashdot_and_sourceforge/ | 12:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | some one will buy it thinking they can turn it around | 12:21 |
| diddledan | crazy that it used to be the go-to place and now it's pretty much useless | 12:22 |
| diddledan | they've been out-done by github | 12:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | slashdot i think is unturnaroundable now | 12:22 |
| zleap | well github is the place for software now I guess | 12:22 |
| zleap | well git hub is easier to clone or fork,and collaborate on projects | 12:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | time to bring it out behind the electronic barn with myspace and bebo | 12:23 |
| diddledan | github, IMO, is more influential now than sourceforge was at it's peak | 12:23 |
| zleap | well things change, the way we download and work on software has changed | 12:23 |
| diddledan | aye - sourceforge is the old style of single canonical place whereas the rise of git and github allow the decentralised paradigm that fits so sublimely | 12:25 |
| diddledan | sf.net never really evolved beyond CVS/SVN | 12:25 |
| zleap | and it was dsigned by hackers for hackers, or if I am right linus had something to do with github | 12:25 |
| foobarry | slashdot is 3-day old news for greybeards | 12:26 |
| foobarry | the stories are ok but the comments are ridiculous | 12:26 |
| diddledan | I never got the whole slashdot thing | 12:27 |
| diddledan | same with reddit | 12:27 |
| foobarry | reddit is vast , and has niche subreddits of interest if you have a niche hobby | 12:27 |
| mgdm | I used to read Slashdot, but I gave up about 5 years ago, haven't really missed it since | 12:27 |
| foobarry | or specific forums for your smartphone et | 12:27 |
| foobarry | i read slashdot tiwtter feed | 12:28 |
| foobarry | the stories are decent enough | 12:28 |
| foobarry | and other feeds are full of junk (e.g the verge) | 12:28 |
| foobarry | boingboing dupe everything on their feeds, making them useless | 12:28 |
| foobarry | and el reg sucks | 12:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | i use alterslash to follow slashdot but hang out on soylent news now with other slashdot refugees | 12:30 |
| mgdm | I got really bored of boingboing a while ago | 12:31 |
| diddledan | lol @ go-lang's "cowboy gopher": https://blog.golang.org/gophercon2015.jpg | 12:35 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| diddledan | oh yeah. lunch | 13:15 |
| awilkins | Wowzer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgk4U4qVpNY | 13:26 |
| diddledan | awilkins: the biggest point for me is in the last moments of that video where they say that write-cycle count doens't impact life | 13:33 |
| awilkins | I've not had any NAND flash devices that cost more than £1.50 fail so far | 13:34 |
| diddledan | I still worry about flash even though it's supposed to be fine these days | 13:34 |
| awilkins | I rather liked the "This is 1,000 faster than NAND flash and cheap too" bit | 13:34 |
| diddledan | aye | 13:35 |
| awilkins | If it's cheaper than NAND it will be a total game changer | 13:35 |
| diddledan | need a new mobo :-p | 13:35 |
| awilkins | The whole "Single unified storage pool" thing did NOT appeal to me | 13:35 |
| diddledan | my mobo isn't EFI so I don't believe it can do NVMe/PCIe | 13:35 |
| awilkins | "Yeah! Because long-term storage is now as fast as RAM we can use it AS RAM!!!!211!!! " | 13:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | for a while, yes :-) | 13:36 |
| awilkins | (10 minutes later, a badly written instruction deletes several important OS utilities) | 13:36 |
| diddledan | that's an interesting thought there - if you're using long-term as RAM do we even need to include any DRAM in our systems? | 13:37 |
| awilkins | With a 64-bit processor, you can address bumloads of RAM | 13:38 |
| awilkins | or "memory" | 13:38 |
| diddledan | completely remove the DRAM and you've simplified things | 13:38 |
| awilkins | Think it would be great for portable devices | 13:47 |
| diddledan | it'll improve battery life if you can remove the dram and store runtime memory on long-term storage that doesn't need power to maintain state | 13:49 |
| daftykins | diddledan: did your surface firmware update go on in the end? | 14:14 |
| diddledan | there's been another newer one since then. No idea whether that new one applied yet or not. but the old one never did work. | 14:15 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 14:18 |
| daftykins | just downloaded a win10 64-bit ISO | 14:18 |
| diddledan | o_O | 14:18 |
| diddledan | that'll be fake | 14:18 |
| diddledan | or pre-release which is akin | 14:19 |
| daftykins | nah from the media creation tool on the MS site | 14:19 |
| daftykins | i know how to spot fakes ;) | 14:19 |
| diddledan | there's a media creation tool? | 14:19 |
| popey | yes | 14:19 |
| daftykins | https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 | 14:19 |
| popey | you can get the iso already | 14:19 |
| popey | I grabbed it hours ago | 14:19 |
| daftykins | might re-do my desktop, although mines one of the older nvidia cards without a DX12 driver for now - not that that matters (: | 14:20 |
| popey | upgrade fails here | 14:20 |
| popey | reboots, fails, reboots back and undoes it | 14:20 |
| diddledan | doesn't that iso need a win10 key tho? | 14:22 |
| diddledan | i.e. not an upgrade | 14:22 |
| daftykins | diddledan: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/faq?3e26a302-d673-443a-ade9-97844670c197=True | 14:22 |
| daftykins | takes a 7 serial or reads the 8 serial from the EFI | 14:22 |
| popey | I grabbed an iso, but am also doing an upgrade | 14:23 |
| daftykins | i'll nuke from orbit i think | 14:23 |
| * daftykins doesn't believe in upgrades | 14:23 | |
| diddledan | and.. if you can do it that way then what was the point of this lil icon in my taskbar.... | 14:23 |
| daftykins | just for noobs. | 14:24 |
| popey | can't be bothered to reinstall | 14:24 |
| popey | will wait till they fix this | 14:24 |
| daftykins | :D | 14:24 |
| daftykins | whole OS probably needs a bit more polish really ;) | 14:24 |
| foobarry | is win10 harder on hardware than 7 /8 | 14:25 |
| daftykins | lighter | 14:25 |
| daftykins | way better than even 7 | 14:25 |
| foobarry | is that official? | 14:26 |
| daftykins | how official can such a claim be o0 | 14:26 |
| foobarry | seems unMS like | 14:26 |
| diddledan | foobarry: it seems faster | 14:26 |
| popey | yeah, I heard the same, its lighter | 14:26 |
| popey | indeed that 8.x was | 14:26 |
| diddledan | that should be in air quotes | 14:26 |
| diddledan | "it seems faster" | 14:26 |
| diddledan | ref: http://www.windowscentral.com/seems-faster | 14:28 |
| tpe | I was considering updating my hardly-used Win 7 partition to 10 until I read this... http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/ | 14:29 |
| awilkins | Hang on, can you just feed Win10 ISo a Win7 serial? | 14:30 |
| awilkins | (until next year, natch) | 14:30 |
| tpe | I know most of this can be switched off, but to be on by default... well, my already zero trust in MS has entered negative values. | 14:30 |
| diddledan | awilkins: seems so | 14:30 |
| awilkins | I presume it then shoves a Win10 key in the EFI | 14:31 |
| daftykins | tpe: usual scaremongering | 14:31 |
| diddledan | awilkins: how will that work when I don't have an EFI? | 14:31 |
| awilkins | Dunno | 14:31 |
| awilkins | Meh | 14:31 |
| awilkins | Maybe it does what it does now and stores it somewhere in the registry | 14:32 |
| daftykins | diddledan: you put a serial in | 14:32 |
| daftykins | you can still do legacy installs | 14:32 |
| tpe | daftykins: How far can these "privacy" policies go before they're not just scaremongering anymore? | 14:32 |
| zmoylan-pi | it would only take one update to turn it back on acidently of course | 14:32 |
| daftykins | tpe: well that article makes out like it's sharing all your wireless passwords, which is an option you can turn off on initial boot | 14:32 |
| daftykins | so yeah, if you're unknowing and always select defaults on OS install - sure it'll do something undesirable | 14:33 |
| daftykins | but it doesn't sound like end of world desirable ;) | 14:33 |
| tpe | Oh yeah, as I said, it can mostly be switched off. But the fact it's there in the first place is (in my opinion) pretty disgusting. | 14:34 |
| tpe | If people understand the implications and still want to use it, fair enough. | 14:34 |
| daftykins | tpe: what do you use? | 14:34 |
| daftykins | we had plenty of tinfoil hat wearers come in #ubuntu crying over the amazon stuff | 14:34 |
| daftykins | still do from time to time :) | 14:34 |
| * bashrc adjusts tinfoil | 14:35 | |
| tpe | Ubuntu on the desktop, Arch on the laptop. | 14:35 |
| daftykins | bashrc: you look like an extra from Space:1999! :D | 14:35 |
| tpe | Desktop has a Win 7 partition that hasn't been used in a fair while. Old work stuff, mostly | 14:36 |
| daftykins | ah | 14:36 |
| bashrc | http://atemporarydistraction.com/images/space1999-3.jpg | 14:36 |
| daftykins | :D | 14:37 |
| daftykins | extra :( | 14:37 |
| tpe | I have VMs of XP and 7 which pretty much cover any rare need for Windows these days. | 14:37 |
| daftykins | i just murdered a lot of 8 stuff | 14:37 |
| daftykins | that can be truly filed under 'Vista 2.0' now | 14:38 |
| diddledan | bashrc: I like that a "human decision [is] required" :-p | 14:38 |
| tpe | Didn't bother with 8 at all... but I'm likely to be one of those "annoying" Windows 7 holdouts, at least for the times Windows is required. | 14:39 |
| daftykins | 7 is definitely nice | 14:39 |
| daftykins | i've got all clients i can on it | 14:39 |
| daftykins | definitely no need to drag them off | 14:39 |
| tpe | The only reason I migrated from XP to 7 was because a 3TB external hard drive won't work with XP. ;) | 14:39 |
| daftykins | haha | 14:40 |
| daftykins | you could've gotten XP 64-bit! | 14:40 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 14:40 |
| daftykins | (no, not really - terrible idea) | 14:40 |
| tpe | Indeed, if I wanted to be raped up the arse. | 14:40 |
| popey | uh, now now. | 14:40 |
| daftykins | tpe: family friendly please | 14:40 |
| Seeker` | XP -> 7 (and then probably to 10 at some point) | 14:41 |
| diddledan | popey, popey, he's our man, if he don't like it. it's not family friendly! | 14:41 |
| Seeker` | before they introduce 11, which following Microsofts usual development standards, will be rubbish | 14:41 |
| popey | I dont believe 11 is on the horizon | 14:41 |
| popey | 10 is a "rolling release" | 14:41 |
| foobarry | sounds ominous | 14:41 |
| popey | sounds great! | 14:41 |
| foobarry | people are worried about subscriptions | 14:42 |
| tpe | XP was solid for years for me... I had it on release, and surprisingly never really ran into problems. Even before the first SP. | 14:42 |
| popey | yeah, xp worked well for me too | 14:42 |
| popey | i remember having a dodgy copy when it came out, on the day we moved into this house, well the day we had a house warming | 14:42 |
| diddledan | I really don't get how many times microsoft have to say "no, there is not going to be a subscription" before people finally accept it | 14:42 |
| popey | people saw my pc and were like "whats that!" | 14:42 |
| daftykins | tpe: EOL is EOL | 14:43 |
| popey | diddledan: not seen the subscription in Solitaire then? | 14:43 |
| Seeker` | diddledan: they'll accept it when there is never a subscription :P | 14:43 |
| foobarry | because adobe | 14:43 |
| popey | http://uk.businessinsider.com/solitaire-windows-10-pay-to-remove-ads-2015-7 | 14:43 |
| tpe | I switched to Ubuntu after looking at the idea of moving to Vista. Didn't really want that. | 14:43 |
| daftykins | XD | 14:43 |
| popey | $1.49 a month or $9.99 a year | 14:43 |
| daftykins | they'll rake it in from all the people not working wanting no ads ;) | 14:43 |
| popey | that smells like a subscription to me | 14:43 |
| popey | The whole ploy is to get people to punch their credit cards into the database | 14:43 |
| diddledan | wtf? "coins"? | 14:43 |
| popey | right now Apple, Amazon and Google have vast databases of customer credit cards | 14:44 |
| diddledan | what are "coins" for?! | 14:44 |
| popey | which makes it frictionless for their customers to buy stuff | 14:44 |
| popey | Microsofot have never really got over that barrier | 14:44 |
| popey | because people don't buy the OS in a store with an @microsoft account | 14:44 |
| popey | unlike apple which kinda makes you sign up with a CC on day one of opening up your shiny iphone / imac etc | 14:44 |
| tpe | What would happen if I were to clean install Windows 10 on a machine not connected to the internet? | 14:45 |
| tpe | How far would I get? | 14:45 |
| directhex | activation failure | 14:45 |
| directhex | i mean, you can install/use it fine & use phone activation - i have to, as it has no built-in driver for my desktop's lan | 14:45 |
| daftykins | i've just gotten to desktop in a VM without entering a key | 14:46 |
| foobarry | wait 1 month | 14:47 |
| * diddledan mumbles something about "gotten" not being a real word | 14:47 | |
| foobarry | windows 7 does that too | 14:47 |
| tpe | I'm thinking along the lines of needing to run it on a non-networked music production machine at some point in the future. I have no interest in running it on my connected workstation. | 14:47 |
| daftykins | yeah i know how it works :) | 14:47 |
| foobarry | http://i.imgur.com/mLY5015.jpg | 14:47 |
| daftykins | just you had to make modifications to let 8 let you in with the images it downloaded | 14:47 |
| foobarry | finished my other thing | 14:47 |
| popey | diddledan: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/gotten | 14:47 |
| diddledan | popey: that proves my point | 14:48 |
| awilkins | What about "snuck" ? | 14:48 |
| diddledan | "north american" isn't real speak | 14:48 |
| popey | "As past participles of get, got and gotten both date back to Middle English." | 14:48 |
| popey | lrn2read | 14:48 |
| directhex | snuck! | 14:48 |
| directhex | i like snuck | 14:48 |
| daftykins | ah memories of Office Space (the film) come up when win10 says "Just a moment..." | 14:48 |
| awilkins | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q51ld-scMI8 < snuck | 14:48 |
| popey | snuck is word of the day | 14:49 |
| diddledan | awilkins: I snucked | 14:49 |
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| diddledan | lol. gotta love jenny garner | 14:49 |
| daftykins | who? :) | 14:50 |
| diddledan | then next pops up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty4PhRWt1hU | 14:50 |
| daftykins | ooh i tell a lie, it's not letting me complete the initial OOBE wizard whilst being offline and not having entered a product key | 14:51 |
| daftykins | actually it's online | 14:51 |
| daftykins | ah no now it works :) | 14:51 |
| popey | tsk, windows 10 install fail doesn't clean up after itself | 14:52 |
| daftykins | it'll keep the install folder there i'm sure? | 14:53 |
| daftykins | to avoid downloading the lot again | 14:53 |
| popey | not just that | 14:54 |
| popey | it left the bootloader entry | 14:54 |
| popey | so when booting windows you get "Start windows normally" and "Windows setup" | 14:54 |
| popey | choose setup and it barfs because some stuff has been deleted | 14:55 |
| popey | also https://twitter.com/ishabazz/status/626403883871395840 | 14:55 |
| diddledan | oh dear | 14:55 |
| diddledan | lol @ something happened | 14:56 |
| popey | reminds me of when I was on a course, and MSSQL gave the best error it could:- | 14:56 |
| popey | "0xFFFFFFFF - Catastrophic failure." | 14:56 |
| popey | okay then! | 14:56 |
| daftykins | i still put this under 'upgrades' :) | 14:57 |
| awilkins | The "FFFFFFFFFF" is just because the real message has been truncated a little | 14:59 |
| shauno | "FFFFFFFF....." is how I announce most "catastrophic failures" too | 15:00 |
| shauno | it's a bit more universal than E_STUBTOE | 15:00 |
| daftykins | electronically stub ones toe? | 15:00 |
| diddledan | E_STUBTOE is something about a function being unimplemented? | 15:03 |
| diddledan | i.e. it's a stub | 15:03 |
| awilkins | They left some underscores out | 15:04 |
| awilkins | STUB_TO_E | 15:04 |
| diddledan | lol | 15:04 |
| awilkins | They wrote an error function that didn't have code in it | 15:04 |
| daftykins | steptoe and son | 15:04 |
| diddledan | why do I suddenly get the phrase "SETEC ASTRONOMY" pop into my head? | 15:05 |
| diddledan | (yes, I know where it's from and what it means. it's just random that I suddenly thought of it) | 15:06 |
| shauno | of all the things that pop into your head, this is the one you question? | 15:06 |
| daftykins | :) | 15:06 |
| diddledan | speaking of which, apparently I don't have a folder called "asswords" | 15:07 |
| diddledan | ?? | 15:07 |
| daftykins | maybe shauno was taking the P | 15:07 |
| diddledan | hmm | 15:07 |
| Seeker` | diddledan: why not? | 15:11 |
| daftykins | https://i.imgur.com/CGfEWWT.png | 15:16 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:16 |
| diddledan | grumpycat looks like he's let himself go | 15:16 |
| awilkins | It's funny because Windows 10 finally has multiple virtual desktops and ALMOST has SSH now! | 15:18 |
| Seeker` | awilkins: being windows it's missing the "Secure" part? :P | 15:19 |
| awilkins | And definitely because the stereotype of all Linux users being fat neckbeards is totally true : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yOEwD8OWuQc/Tdyk-T3cYzI/AAAAAAAAAV8/D6BIfJNCyoI/s1600/4108114455_1dc2bed37e.jpg | 15:20 |
| daftykins | Seeker`: childish | 15:21 |
| daftykins | been plenty of open sauce dramas of late | 15:21 |
| Seeker` | daftykins: not serious | 15:21 |
| diddledan | I need chocolate | 15:23 |
| daftykins | i have stacks of the stuff D: very dangerous | 15:24 |
| Seeker` | diddledan: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33690211 | 15:25 |
| diddledan | but I don't _Want_ to curb my chocolate eating | 15:25 |
| TwistedLucidity | diddledan: You know chocolate is poisonous, right? | 15:27 |
| diddledan | TwistedLucidity: so're carrots | 15:28 |
| TwistedLucidity | So...chocolate carrot cake is a weaponised dessert? | 15:28 |
| Seeker` | everything is fatal if you eat too much of it | 15:29 |
| Seeker` | including "nothing" | 15:29 |
| * bashrc considers weaponised puddings | 15:30 | |
| TwistedLucidity | So homeopathic medicines /do/ have an effect after all! | 15:31 |
| diddledan | how can you have too much when nothing is in essence not enough | 15:31 |
| TwistedLucidity | nothing does not imply "not enough". There are somethings I am perfectly happy to have "nothing" of, thanks! | 15:31 |
| * diddledan hands around the arsenic | 15:32 | |
| * TwistedLucidity tries to remember if it's that or cyanide in some nuts.... | 15:32 | |
| * diddledan tries to remember if he's nuts | 15:32 | |
| Seeker` | TwistedLucidity: cyanide in almonds I think | 16:04 |
| TwistedLucidity | Seeker`: it is | 16:09 |
| daftykins | turns out booting the ISO rejects a win7 key as-is, so i have to upgrade it first | 17:02 |
| daftykins | slight shame but ah well (: | 17:02 |
| foobarry | is win10 day a sucess for ms? seems so | 17:03 |
| daftykins | found some reports online? | 17:05 |
| * popey retries the upgrade with the linux hard drive unplugged | 17:12 | |
| foobarry | it seems linux ppl are upgrading their otherOSes whereas usually it's greeted with derision and meh | 17:15 |
| foobarry | and patches | 17:15 |
| * davmor2 derises and meh's | 17:16 | |
| awilkins | If I upgrade my WIndows I fear it will trash my Linux partition | 17:17 |
| awilkins | All on the same drive | 17:17 |
| popey | that did it | 17:19 |
| popey | sheesh | 17:19 |
| popey | its now upgrading, now I took my second drive out | 17:19 |
| davmor2 | popey: is your system uefi? I'm assuming windows 10 will magically enable a key and then lock out your linux drive anyway right ;) | 17:22 |
| popey | np | 17:22 |
| popey | no | 17:22 |
| daftykins | toxic talk, that | 17:23 |
| popey | mine is a ye olde bios system | 17:23 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: hey I'm only guessing :P | 17:23 |
| daftykins | yes, but quite silly | 17:24 |
| awilkins | It does like to trash grub | 17:27 |
| awilkins | grub : detects Windows and kindly adds a boot entry | 17:27 |
| awilkins | Windows : just blats the MBR because hey, no-one runs anything else, right? | 17:27 |
| daftykins | actually 10 preview since it became open to the public sat beside my xubuntu install just fine | 17:28 |
| daftykins | :) | 17:28 |
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| popey | blimey, that was quick, it's finished upgrading | 17:29 |
| popey | hah, well, aside from the post upgrade nonsense :) | 17:30 |
| popey | \o/ 640x480-o-vision | 17:31 |
| shauno | silly question, but can you actually buy windows 10 ? | 18:00 |
| daftykins | eventually | 18:00 |
| daftykins | not yet | 18:00 |
| shauno | ah. I wondered what I was doing wrong. their site sent me round in circles :) | 18:02 |
| directhex | awilkins: i find dual-booting much less stressful in UEFI land | 18:50 |
| directhex | since there's no more contention for bootloaders | 18:50 |
| foobarry | science museum or natural history museum for a bright 5yr old who loves science and the natural world? | 18:58 |
| foobarry | prob don't have time for both | 18:58 |
| shauno | I'd probably say natural history museum, just because it's the only one I can still remember 20 years later | 19:00 |
| foobarry | heh | 19:07 |
| directhex | french embassy. it's right next to both museums, and has the excitement of sitting in a waiting room! | 19:08 |
| foobarry | i might do the science one to check it out | 19:08 |
| foobarry | the upside is high | 19:08 |
| foobarry | if its too over his head then natural history i a safe bet | 19:09 |
| foobarry | bcos dinsouaurs | 19:09 |
| Nokaji | Are we talking London's Science Museum? - I've just been reviewing my photos from my visit last month | 19:15 |
| foobarry | yes Nokaji | 19:17 |
| Nokaji | righty, mine was a fast excursion through the place as was pushed for time hence plenty of photos so I can review at my leisure | 19:18 |
| Nokaji | they have a Cray1 there | 19:18 |
| foobarry | anything for young kids? | 19:25 |
| Nokaji | plenty of youngsters there, so i guess so - cars, space, olde world things ofc | 19:29 |
| Nokaji | you can film and use flash, they don't give a damn | 19:29 |
| foobarry | ta | 19:51 |
| Nokaji | flciking through my photies - space rockets, space men, steam rockets (train), stagecoch, cabinet of stuff inc old clocks, telescopes, pipe organ, penny farthing, old work tools, biplane, cars stacked up in a line, lodsa cars foden truck, meschersmitt car (bubble cars), car cut in half to show parts, colchester lathe, things to read, things to test your smelling - that's as far as i got | 19:58 |
| Nokaji | have to give credit to my point and shoot camera, always up to the task, always in focus, always steady, good lighting, higlhy detailed 12MP pics | 20:02 |
| Nokaji | and fast | 20:02 |
| foobarry | gonna do space section, then launchpad and then nip over to the natural history for est of our time | 20:04 |
| foobarry | lots of the best stuff is for adults, and older kids | 20:05 |
| foobarry | just gonna take smartphone instead of heavy camera | 20:05 |
| foobarry | its mainly a day out for the lad | 20:05 |
| Nokaji | I'd have toured exhibition road et al if i'd given myself enough time, too | 20:24 |
| Nokaji | hope he? likes it, most seem to | 20:25 |
| Nokaji | boys toys is usually a winner | 20:25 |
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