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=== Tonberry_ is now known as Tonberry
stickyboyHow is Pietermaritzburg?05:33
GnikLlortGood morning stickyboy and Kilos 05:37
stickyboyGnikLlort: Hey05:37
Kilosmorning GnikLlort stickyboy barrydk mazal inetpro and others i will get to as i wake up more05:38
stickyboyKilos: How is Pietermaritzburg?05:38
Kilosnot as cold as pretoria05:38
Kilosbut nice town , when i left there05:39
Kiloswhy you ask that stickyboy 05:39
stickyboyKilos: A buddy might go there.05:39
stickyboyhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=996153705:46
stickyboyDiscussion on Hacker News about why Docker isn't yet succeeding in production.05:46
stickyboyI am becoming super anti Docker...05:46
stickyboy"TL;DR It's too damn complicated if you're not Google/Twitter/Netflix."05:46
stickyboyAlso, "Choose Boring Technology" http://mcfunley.com/choose-boring-technology05:47
pieter2627morning all05:48
GnikLlortrip Googlr+06:02
GnikLlortgoogle+*06:02
stickyboyGnikLlort: I don't think it's dead...06:16
GnikLlortits going to be soon06:18
stickyboyPress release...?06:19
stickyboyOr you're just theorizing? ;)06:22
GnikLlortGoogle+ is going to detach from youtube06:39
MaN1if so, about time 06:47
=== MaN1 is now known as MaNI
MaNIthey way they tried to ram that thing down peoples throats is a disgrace06:47
GnikLlortikr06:50
MaNIdocker - just really overhyped I think06:53
MaNIit is difficult for something that is overhyped to succeed in peoples eyes06:53
MaNIits probably really great at a small niche - but for most smaller projects it is unnecessary overhead06:54
Kiloshi pieter2627 and others i missed, been busy here06:59
pieter2627hi oom Kilos 07:00
* pieter2627 just realized that Kilo has been here all the time07:01
Kiloshehe07:01
inetprogood mornings everyone07:10
Kiloshi inetpro 07:12
SquirmMorning07:55
Kiloshi Squirm 07:56
ThatGraemeGuymorning all08:01
ThatGraemeGuymazal, you here?08:01
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 08:01
Kilosstickyboy  we will need your help too i think when he is done08:03
Kilosoops stickyboy wrong channel08:05
Kiloslook in africa08:05
gnikllortweechat 1.2 looks awesome08:06
Kiloslol i have used it too08:07
Kilosbut peeps all do their own thing08:07
Kilossome still use irssi08:07
SquirmHey ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos08:09
stickyboytmux + irssi for life.08:12
Kiloshi Sandyman 08:32
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za08:32
Sandymanits me gnikllort , testing some things08:32
Kiloshaha ok you welcome too08:33
inetprostickyboy: nice links, thanks for sharing08:34
KilosSandyman  is a nice nick as well08:34
Sandymanlmfao 08:34
stickyboyinetpro: The boring technology one?08:47
inetprostickyboy: actually both interesting... having said that I just did speed reading over them08:48
inetproI need to spend much more time with docker before I can really say I understand the stuff08:51
inetproand the other one goes way over my head but still is interesting08:51
inetprostickyboy: the 2nd link has more gems hidden behind the links... just wish I had enough time to read all that08:56
* mazal peeks in09:00
mazalThatGraemeGuy: You were looking for me ?09:00
mazalOh and morning everyone09:01
Kiloshaha mazal groete09:03
mazalAlweer malhuis hier oom , kannie onthou of ek gegroet het vanmore nie :P09:03
Kilosgeen probleem09:04
ThatGraemeGuymazal: yes takealot had an ssd on special today but its sold out09:04
mazalah man !!09:05
mazalSlap me next time ThatGraemeGuy :)09:05
ThatGraemeGuysubscribe to the daily deals newsletter, there's forever SSDs on special09:05
ThatGraemeGuyat least once a week typically09:06
mazalI am subscribed , but come to think of it , I haven't seen one of those mails in a while09:06
ThatGraemeGuyif you have an android, the app also notifies you when daily deals go live09:07
mazalMy poena von brugen phone doesn't have that hehehe09:07
mazalThere should be somewhere on their site where I can check that newsletter subscription , will check it out09:08
mazallol , tried to sign up again now and get " 09:09
mazaltakealot.com is currently experiencing technical difficulties.09:09
mazalWe're sorry for the inconvenience.09:09
mazalhmmm...Tried again and was successful. So why didn't I get the " This email is already used " error. Something happened to my subscription it seems. No worries , done again now09:11
Kiloslol09:11
stickyboyinetpro: Ah, the comments on the Hacker News thread about Docker. Yah.09:12
stickyboyBasically: Docker solves non of the problems I was having.09:12
stickyboyOr, answers none of the questions I was asking.09:12
inetprouh oh!10:02
Kiloshmm...10:02
MaNLfinally - aluminium that is actually aluminium11:19
* Cryterion gets bounced from department to department by telkom, grrr11:19
MaNLhttps://xkcd.com/806/11:22
mazalAnybody that can help me with a git question please11:30
mazalI cloned with the command "git clone"11:30
mazalWhat is the command the check and add changed later on ?11:30
mazalchanges*11:31
ThatGraemeGuyyou cloned someone else's repo? or your own fork?11:44
mazalsomone else11:44
ThatGraemeGuygit pull11:44
mazalta11:46
mazalTrying to learn to work with git11:46
mazalAnd had a very blonde moment with pull not working and thought I had wrong command11:47
ThatGraemeGuygood luck11:48
ThatGraemeGuyi still haven't quite figured it out11:49
ThatGraemeGuythe git documentation is a good read11:49
mazalI read the helped file and pull is the one that made sense but kept failing. And then the light when on that I am not standing in the created folder :P11:53
mazaloom Kilos12:13
Kilosja seun12:13
mazalDid you guys beat that TB problem of the other night ?12:14
Kiloswell langjan said it was fixed12:14
mazalWhat fixed it ?12:14
Kilosno one knows12:14
mazalk12:15
Kilosmaybe a shudown restrt lett the settings work12:15
Kiloshehe12:15
Kilosrestart12:15
mazalReminds me of an intern we had12:15
mazalHe had only 2 options for any problem12:15
Kiloshe was here last night at the meeting12:15
mazal1. Restart12:15
Kilosand you werent\12:15
mazal2. If restart didn't fix , format lol12:15
Kiloslol12:16
mazalNeedless to say , that didn't last long here lol12:16
Kilosya peeps fought with me in the beginning as well12:17
mazalRE the meeting , 8:30 is too late for me. I shutdown and go to bed at around 9 and don't like leaving half-way12:17
Kilosexcuses excuses12:17
Kilosi stay up for midnight meetings some times12:18
Kilosand i love sleeping12:18
ThatGraemeGuymazal I found https://git-scm.com/documentation to be more user-friendly than trudging through man pages12:20
mazalThanx ThatGraemeGuy12:23
mazalBookmarked it12:23
mazalKilos: I work early , needs some sleep :P12:24
Kilosi have a pidgin crash report but cant highlight it12:24
Kiloswhat ways are there to highlight a whole page12:25
Kilosmazal  thats fine as long as its not gaming keeping you away12:25
Kilosthe new guy also gets going early12:26
mazalGaming is also mostly till 9pm12:26
Kiloshaha12:26
mazalI try to not go later than that , otherwise I get in bed too late and suffer the next morning12:26
mazalGetting old now12:26
mazalAnd something that really frustrates me , I am one of those people that toss and turn for long time before I actually fall asleep12:27
mazalMind doesn't shut down12:27
Kiloshmm... the new guy broke something with his testing12:28
Kilosi have that prob as well12:28
Kilosand if hands and feet cold cant sleep till they warm12:28
ThatGraemeGuyyou aren't drinking enough wine at night if you struggle to fall asleep :D12:29
mazallol 12:29
Kiloslol12:29
mazalI must try that , or whiskey12:29
Kilossjoe12:29
mazalWhiskey is sommer good for the heart as well12:30
ThatGraemeGuythey say red wine is too12:31
ThatGraemeGuyi never aquired a taste for whiskey :-/12:32
Kilosyucky stuff12:32
mazalYeah , not easy that12:35
mazalBut when I was young we drank it a lot12:35
mazalLess babelas12:35
mazalK crash time for now12:36
mazalHave a nice afternoon guys12:36
Kilosyou too12:36
mazalI have some git homework to go and do :)12:36
mazalcheers for now12:37
=== MaNL is now known as MaNI
superfly*yawn*13:12
Kilosaw my fly13:13
Kilosalready13:13
Kilosor still13:13
ThatGraemeGuymoo13:14
superflyBoth. On my way home, actually, but not to sleep. 13:14
Kilosaw13:14
superflyI'll probably nap now on the train. 13:15
Kilosyour second idea is launching as we speak superfly 13:15
superflyYa, good idea. 13:15
superflyMy second idea? 13:15
superflyI have ideas? This is news to me. 13:15
Kilosgetting lugs involved with us13:15
Kilosyou have good ones, you just forget them13:16
Cryterionhmm, apparently you can static ip's with telkoms home adsl now13:30
rusbusKilos o/14:31
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Kiloshi rusbus 14:32
gnikllortdafuq15:31
Kilosshhh im listening to my daughter sing to my sister over skype15:32
gnikllortBandwidth used  882.95 GB15:34
gnikllortsomeone is mad at me15:34
gnikllortKilos: sounds cute lol15:35
* mazal is brave15:51
mazalTrying to use git on Win :P15:52
mazalNOT as easy as on ubuntu15:52
MaNIits very slow on win16:09
MaNIor at least it was last time I had to use it16:09
grembleGood evening16:22
Kiloshi gremble 16:22
grembleHow are you Kilos?16:23
Kilosgood ty gremble and you16:23
Kiloskinda cold but16:23
grembleI am well thank you. Also rather cold and hungry. The power just came on, so we should be eating in a bit16:25
Cryterionevening everyone16:26
grembleHey Cryterion 16:26
Cryterionanyone know how to set a cron job to run at startup only?16:27
grembleThat's called a startup service16:27
grembleI know how to set those up using systemd, but not upstart16:28
Cryterionthink I remember something I did somewhere with init.d16:30
gremblerofl. if you search for a service using `ps aux | grep <service>` grep returns its own service as well16:32
Cryterionbut then again, it's not really a service, just a command, wget to update dns16:36
grembleIt doesn't necessarily stay on like a service. It's just arbitrary naming. 16:36
Cryterionjust gonna run in manually for now, telkom giving me a static ip soon anyway16:37
gremblePop that shit in a bash script, and then have it execute at startup16:37
gremble:p16:37
grembleWhy do you need to update your dns because you have a dynamic ip?16:38
Cryteriondynamic ip changes periodically, if you running a home webserver you need to update the dns record with the new ip if it changes16:40
CryterionAnd then hopefully I get my static ip in a few days, so the mail server can actually send out mail :)16:42
grembleAh16:42
grembleGuys. I'm about to blow your minds: Turning's Halting Problem is a practical extention of Russell's Barber Paradox. It relies on self-reference to prove a paradoxical implication.16:48
K_K_NKilos: sorry I missed yesterdays meeting, forgot about17:56
Kilosnp17:57
K_K_Nbut I remembered the Africa meeting :)18:00
K_K_Na bit funny though could not attend my own countries meeting18:00
K_K_Nlol18:00
Kiloslol18:00
K_K_NI will try to remember the next one18:00
magespawngood evening18:09
grembleGood evening magespawn 18:10
Kiloshi magespawn you gonna join africa for first meeting18:10
Kilosand you gremble 18:10
magespawnhi gremble Kilos18:10
magespawnsure 18:10
magespawnwhen?18:10
Kilosstarts in 20 mins on #ubuntu-africa18:11
grembleI may as well. I am here18:11
ThatGraemeGuyCryterion, you can use a line like "@reboot /path/to/thing.sh"18:28
ThatGraemeGuyassuming default ubuntu cron daemon18:28
ThatGraemeGuyif not 'man 5 crontab' to make sure18:29
CryterionThatGraemeGuy, doesn't matter now, getting a static IP in a few days18:29
ThatGraemeGuycool18:29
grembleNice. :o18:30
grembleNow which way would be better, ThatGraemeGuy? Adding something like that to your startup sequence or making it a cronjob?18:30
Cryteriontelkom has extended their static ip's to home users now as well, still new, think I'm one of the first18:30
CryterionI had as cronjob, scheduled hourly, but when you in a hurry it's a different story18:32
ThatGraemeGuya simple dynamic dns updater? I just put that in my user crontab18:32
ThatGraemeGuyduckdns ftw18:32
ThatGraemeGuyI don't just run it at reboot though, IP can change independent of the server's rebooting18:33
Cryteriongoing static now, have to due to mail server18:33
ThatGraemeGuyurgh good luck18:33
ThatGraemeGuyso glad we don't host mail18:34
Cryteriononly hosting my own personal18:34
ThatGraemeGuystill painful, ugly business18:35
Cryterioneverything working except for sending mail, gets rejected due to most dynamic ip's being listed in PBL on spamhaus.org18:35
ThatGraemeGuyyep18:35
Cryterionthat's why I'm going static18:36
ThatGraemeGuystatic ip might not solve that for all blacklists18:36
ThatGraemeGuybut you'll have to try it and see18:36
CryterionYeah, but can sort that out as it comes18:36
ThatGraemeGuyhehe18:36
ThatGraemeGuygood luck :)18:36
CryterionI'm learning, and best way is just in and do it18:37
pieter2627hi zabear, welcome to the channel18:43
mazalNight all , sleep well19:04
=== Kilos is now known as Kilosty
=== Kilosty is now known as Kilos
magespawngood night 20:25
Kilosnight lad20:25
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:40
stickyboyHas anyone seen Black Cat, White Cat?20:58

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