[05:33] <stickyboy> How is Pietermaritzburg?
[05:37] <GnikLlort> Good morning stickyboy and Kilos 
[05:37] <stickyboy> GnikLlort: Hey
[05:38] <Kilos> morning GnikLlort stickyboy barrydk mazal inetpro and others i will get to as i wake up more
[05:38] <stickyboy> Kilos: How is Pietermaritzburg?
[05:38] <Kilos> not as cold as pretoria
[05:39] <Kilos> but nice town , when i left there
[05:39] <Kilos> why you ask that stickyboy 
[05:39] <stickyboy> Kilos: A buddy might go there.
[05:46] <stickyboy> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9961537
[05:46] <stickyboy> Discussion on Hacker News about why Docker isn't yet succeeding in production.
[05:46] <stickyboy> I am becoming super anti Docker...
[05:46] <stickyboy> "TL;DR It's too damn complicated if you're not Google/Twitter/Netflix."
[05:47] <stickyboy> Also, "Choose Boring Technology" http://mcfunley.com/choose-boring-technology
[05:48] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:02] <GnikLlort> rip Googlr+
[06:02] <GnikLlort> google+*
[06:16] <stickyboy> GnikLlort: I don't think it's dead...
[06:18] <GnikLlort> its going to be soon
[06:19] <stickyboy> Press release...?
[06:22] <stickyboy> Or you're just theorizing? ;)
[06:39] <GnikLlort> Google+ is going to detach from youtube
[06:47] <MaN1> if so, about time 
[06:47] <MaNI> they way they tried to ram that thing down peoples throats is a disgrace
[06:50] <GnikLlort> ikr
[06:53] <MaNI> docker - just really overhyped I think
[06:53] <MaNI> it is difficult for something that is overhyped to succeed in peoples eyes
[06:54] <MaNI> its probably really great at a small niche - but for most smaller projects it is unnecessary overhead
[06:59] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 and others i missed, been busy here
[07:00] <pieter2627> hi oom Kilos 
[07:01]  * pieter2627 just realized that Kilo has been here all the time
[07:01] <Kilos> hehe
[07:10] <inetpro> good mornings everyone
[07:12] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[07:55] <Squirm> Morning
[07:56] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal, you here?
[08:01] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:03] <Kilos> stickyboy  we will need your help too i think when he is done
[08:05] <Kilos> oops stickyboy wrong channel
[08:05] <Kilos> look in africa
[08:06] <gnikllort> weechat 1.2 looks awesome
[08:07] <Kilos> lol i have used it too
[08:07] <Kilos> but peeps all do their own thing
[08:07] <Kilos> some still use irssi
[08:09] <Squirm> Hey ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos
[08:12] <stickyboy> tmux + irssi for life.
[08:32] <Kilos> hi Sandyman 
[08:32] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:32] <Sandyman> its me gnikllort , testing some things
[08:33] <Kilos> haha ok you welcome too
[08:34] <inetpro> stickyboy: nice links, thanks for sharing
[08:34] <Kilos> Sandyman  is a nice nick as well
[08:34] <Sandyman> lmfao 
[08:47] <stickyboy> inetpro: The boring technology one?
[08:48] <inetpro> stickyboy: actually both interesting... having said that I just did speed reading over them
[08:51] <inetpro> I need to spend much more time with docker before I can really say I understand the stuff
[08:51] <inetpro> and the other one goes way over my head but still is interesting
[08:56] <inetpro> stickyboy: the 2nd link has more gems hidden behind the links... just wish I had enough time to read all that
[09:00]  * mazal peeks in
[09:00] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: You were looking for me ?
[09:01] <mazal> Oh and morning everyone
[09:03] <Kilos> haha mazal groete
[09:03] <mazal> Alweer malhuis hier oom , kannie onthou of ek gegroet het vanmore nie :P
[09:04] <Kilos> geen probleem
[09:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: yes takealot had an ssd on special today but its sold out
[09:05] <mazal> ah man !!
[09:05] <mazal> Slap me next time ThatGraemeGuy :)
[09:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> subscribe to the daily deals newsletter, there's forever SSDs on special
[09:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> at least once a week typically
[09:06] <mazal> I am subscribed , but come to think of it , I haven't seen one of those mails in a while
[09:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you have an android, the app also notifies you when daily deals go live
[09:07] <mazal> My poena von brugen phone doesn't have that hehehe
[09:08] <mazal> There should be somewhere on their site where I can check that newsletter subscription , will check it out
[09:09] <mazal> lol , tried to sign up again now and get " 
[09:09] <mazal> takealot.com is currently experiencing technical difficulties.
[09:09] <mazal> We're sorry for the inconvenience.
[09:11] <mazal> hmmm...Tried again and was successful. So why didn't I get the " This email is already used " error. Something happened to my subscription it seems. No worries , done again now
[09:11] <Kilos> lol
[09:12] <stickyboy> inetpro: Ah, the comments on the Hacker News thread about Docker. Yah.
[09:12] <stickyboy> Basically: Docker solves non of the problems I was having.
[09:12] <stickyboy> Or, answers none of the questions I was asking.
[10:02] <inetpro> uh oh!
[10:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:19] <MaNL> finally - aluminium that is actually aluminium
[11:19]  * Cryterion gets bounced from department to department by telkom, grrr
[11:22] <MaNL> https://xkcd.com/806/
[11:30] <mazal> Anybody that can help me with a git question please
[11:30] <mazal> I cloned with the command "git clone"
[11:30] <mazal> What is the command the check and add changed later on ?
[11:31] <mazal> changes*
[11:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> you cloned someone else's repo? or your own fork?
[11:44] <mazal> somone else
[11:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> git pull
[11:46] <mazal> ta
[11:46] <mazal> Trying to learn to work with git
[11:47] <mazal> And had a very blonde moment with pull not working and thought I had wrong command
[11:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> good luck
[11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> i still haven't quite figured it out
[11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> the git documentation is a good read
[11:53] <mazal> I read the helped file and pull is the one that made sense but kept failing. And then the light when on that I am not standing in the created folder :P
[12:13] <mazal> oom Kilos
[12:13] <Kilos> ja seun
[12:14] <mazal> Did you guys beat that TB problem of the other night ?
[12:14] <Kilos> well langjan said it was fixed
[12:14] <mazal> What fixed it ?
[12:14] <Kilos> no one knows
[12:15] <mazal> k
[12:15] <Kilos> maybe a shudown restrt lett the settings work
[12:15] <Kilos> hehe
[12:15] <Kilos> restart
[12:15] <mazal> Reminds me of an intern we had
[12:15] <mazal> He had only 2 options for any problem
[12:15] <Kilos> he was here last night at the meeting
[12:15] <mazal> 1. Restart
[12:15] <Kilos> and you werent\
[12:15] <mazal> 2. If restart didn't fix , format lol
[12:16] <Kilos> lol
[12:16] <mazal> Needless to say , that didn't last long here lol
[12:17] <Kilos> ya peeps fought with me in the beginning as well
[12:17] <mazal> RE the meeting , 8:30 is too late for me. I shutdown and go to bed at around 9 and don't like leaving half-way
[12:17] <Kilos> excuses excuses
[12:18] <Kilos> i stay up for midnight meetings some times
[12:18] <Kilos> and i love sleeping
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal I found https://git-scm.com/documentation to be more user-friendly than trudging through man pages
[12:23] <mazal> Thanx ThatGraemeGuy
[12:23] <mazal> Bookmarked it
[12:24] <mazal> Kilos: I work early , needs some sleep :P
[12:24] <Kilos> i have a pidgin crash report but cant highlight it
[12:25] <Kilos> what ways are there to highlight a whole page
[12:25] <Kilos> mazal  thats fine as long as its not gaming keeping you away
[12:26] <Kilos> the new guy also gets going early
[12:26] <mazal> Gaming is also mostly till 9pm
[12:26] <Kilos> haha
[12:26] <mazal> I try to not go later than that , otherwise I get in bed too late and suffer the next morning
[12:26] <mazal> Getting old now
[12:27] <mazal> And something that really frustrates me , I am one of those people that toss and turn for long time before I actually fall asleep
[12:27] <mazal> Mind doesn't shut down
[12:28] <Kilos> hmm... the new guy broke something with his testing
[12:28] <Kilos> i have that prob as well
[12:28] <Kilos> and if hands and feet cold cant sleep till they warm
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> you aren't drinking enough wine at night if you struggle to fall asleep :D
[12:29] <mazal> lol 
[12:29] <Kilos> lol
[12:29] <mazal> I must try that , or whiskey
[12:29] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:30] <mazal> Whiskey is sommer good for the heart as well
[12:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> they say red wine is too
[12:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> i never aquired a taste for whiskey :-/
[12:32] <Kilos> yucky stuff
[12:35] <mazal> Yeah , not easy that
[12:35] <mazal> But when I was young we drank it a lot
[12:35] <mazal> Less babelas
[12:36] <mazal> K crash time for now
[12:36] <mazal> Have a nice afternoon guys
[12:36] <Kilos> you too
[12:36] <mazal> I have some git homework to go and do :)
[12:37] <mazal> cheers for now
[13:12] <superfly> *yawn*
[13:13] <Kilos> aw my fly
[13:13] <Kilos> already
[13:13] <Kilos> or still
[13:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[13:14] <superfly> Both. On my way home, actually, but not to sleep. 
[13:14] <Kilos> aw
[13:15] <superfly> I'll probably nap now on the train. 
[13:15] <Kilos> your second idea is launching as we speak superfly 
[13:15] <superfly> Ya, good idea. 
[13:15] <superfly> My second idea? 
[13:15] <superfly> I have ideas? This is news to me. 
[13:15] <Kilos> getting lugs involved with us
[13:16] <Kilos> you have good ones, you just forget them
[13:30] <Cryterion> hmm, apparently you can static ip's with telkoms home adsl now
[14:31] <rusbus> Kilos o/
[14:31] <rusbus> o\
[14:31] <rusbus> o/
[14:31] <rusbus> o\
[14:31] <rusbus> o/
[14:32] <Kilos> hi rusbus 
[15:31] <gnikllort> dafuq
[15:32] <Kilos> shhh im listening to my daughter sing to my sister over skype
[15:34] <gnikllort> Bandwidth used  882.95 GB
[15:34] <gnikllort> someone is mad at me
[15:35] <gnikllort> Kilos: sounds cute lol
[15:51]  * mazal is brave
[15:52] <mazal> Trying to use git on Win :P
[15:52] <mazal> NOT as easy as on ubuntu
[16:09] <MaNI> its very slow on win
[16:09] <MaNI> or at least it was last time I had to use it
[16:22] <gremble> Good evening
[16:22] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[16:23] <gremble> How are you Kilos?
[16:23] <Kilos> good ty gremble and you
[16:23] <Kilos> kinda cold but
[16:25] <gremble> I am well thank you. Also rather cold and hungry. The power just came on, so we should be eating in a bit
[16:26] <Cryterion> evening everyone
[16:26] <gremble> Hey Cryterion 
[16:27] <Cryterion> anyone know how to set a cron job to run at startup only?
[16:27] <gremble> That's called a startup service
[16:28] <gremble> I know how to set those up using systemd, but not upstart
[16:30] <Cryterion> think I remember something I did somewhere with init.d
[16:32] <gremble> rofl. if you search for a service using `ps aux | grep <service>` grep returns its own service as well
[16:36] <Cryterion> but then again, it's not really a service, just a command, wget to update dns
[16:36] <gremble> It doesn't necessarily stay on like a service. It's just arbitrary naming. 
[16:37] <Cryterion> just gonna run in manually for now, telkom giving me a static ip soon anyway
[16:37] <gremble> Pop that shit in a bash script, and then have it execute at startup
[16:37] <gremble> :p
[16:38] <gremble> Why do you need to update your dns because you have a dynamic ip?
[16:40] <Cryterion> dynamic ip changes periodically, if you running a home webserver you need to update the dns record with the new ip if it changes
[16:42] <Cryterion> And then hopefully I get my static ip in a few days, so the mail server can actually send out mail :)
[16:42] <gremble> Ah
[16:48] <gremble> Guys. I'm about to blow your minds: Turning's Halting Problem is a practical extention of Russell's Barber Paradox. It relies on self-reference to prove a paradoxical implication.
[17:56] <K_K_N> Kilos: sorry I missed yesterdays meeting, forgot about
[17:57] <Kilos> np
[18:00] <K_K_N> but I remembered the Africa meeting :)
[18:00] <K_K_N> a bit funny though could not attend my own countries meeting
[18:00] <K_K_N> lol
[18:00] <Kilos> lol
[18:00] <K_K_N> I will try to remember the next one
[18:09] <magespawn> good evening
[18:10] <gremble> Good evening magespawn 
[18:10] <Kilos> hi magespawn you gonna join africa for first meeting
[18:10] <Kilos> and you gremble 
[18:10] <magespawn> hi gremble Kilos
[18:10] <magespawn> sure 
[18:10] <magespawn> when?
[18:11] <Kilos> starts in 20 mins on #ubuntu-africa
[18:11] <gremble> I may as well. I am here
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> Cryterion, you can use a line like "@reboot /path/to/thing.sh"
[18:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> assuming default ubuntu cron daemon
[18:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> if not 'man 5 crontab' to make sure
[18:29] <Cryterion> ThatGraemeGuy, doesn't matter now, getting a static IP in a few days
[18:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[18:30] <gremble> Nice. :o
[18:30] <gremble> Now which way would be better, ThatGraemeGuy? Adding something like that to your startup sequence or making it a cronjob?
[18:30] <Cryterion> telkom has extended their static ip's to home users now as well, still new, think I'm one of the first
[18:32] <Cryterion> I had as cronjob, scheduled hourly, but when you in a hurry it's a different story
[18:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> a simple dynamic dns updater? I just put that in my user crontab
[18:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> duckdns ftw
[18:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> I don't just run it at reboot though, IP can change independent of the server's rebooting
[18:33] <Cryterion> going static now, have to due to mail server
[18:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> urgh good luck
[18:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> so glad we don't host mail
[18:34] <Cryterion> only hosting my own personal
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> still painful, ugly business
[18:35] <Cryterion> everything working except for sending mail, gets rejected due to most dynamic ip's being listed in PBL on spamhaus.org
[18:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> yep
[18:36] <Cryterion> that's why I'm going static
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> static ip might not solve that for all blacklists
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you'll have to try it and see
[18:36] <Cryterion> Yeah, but can sort that out as it comes
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> hehe
[18:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> good luck :)
[18:37] <Cryterion> I'm learning, and best way is just in and do it
[18:43] <pieter2627> hi zabear, welcome to the channel
[19:04] <mazal> Night all , sleep well
[20:25] <magespawn> good night 
[20:25] <Kilos> night lad
[20:40] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:58] <stickyboy> Has anyone seen Black Cat, White Cat?