=== Tonberry_ is now known as Tonberry [05:33] How is Pietermaritzburg? [05:37] Good morning stickyboy and Kilos [05:37] GnikLlort: Hey [05:38] morning GnikLlort stickyboy barrydk mazal inetpro and others i will get to as i wake up more [05:38] Kilos: How is Pietermaritzburg? [05:38] not as cold as pretoria [05:39] but nice town , when i left there [05:39] why you ask that stickyboy [05:39] Kilos: A buddy might go there. [05:46] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9961537 [05:46] Discussion on Hacker News about why Docker isn't yet succeeding in production. [05:46] I am becoming super anti Docker... [05:46] "TL;DR It's too damn complicated if you're not Google/Twitter/Netflix." [05:47] Also, "Choose Boring Technology" http://mcfunley.com/choose-boring-technology [05:48] morning all [06:02] rip Googlr+ [06:02] google+* [06:16] GnikLlort: I don't think it's dead... [06:18] its going to be soon [06:19] Press release...? [06:22] Or you're just theorizing? ;) [06:39] Google+ is going to detach from youtube [06:47] if so, about time === MaN1 is now known as MaNI [06:47] they way they tried to ram that thing down peoples throats is a disgrace [06:50] ikr [06:53] docker - just really overhyped I think [06:53] it is difficult for something that is overhyped to succeed in peoples eyes [06:54] its probably really great at a small niche - but for most smaller projects it is unnecessary overhead [06:59] hi pieter2627 and others i missed, been busy here [07:00] hi oom Kilos [07:01] * pieter2627 just realized that Kilo has been here all the time [07:01] hehe [07:10] good mornings everyone [07:12] hi inetpro [07:55] Morning [07:56] hi Squirm [08:01] morning all [08:01] mazal, you here? [08:01] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:03] stickyboy we will need your help too i think when he is done [08:05] oops stickyboy wrong channel [08:05] look in africa [08:06] weechat 1.2 looks awesome [08:07] lol i have used it too [08:07] but peeps all do their own thing [08:07] some still use irssi [08:09] Hey ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos [08:12] tmux + irssi for life. [08:32] hi Sandyman [08:32] welcome to ubuntu-za [08:32] its me gnikllort , testing some things [08:33] haha ok you welcome too [08:34] stickyboy: nice links, thanks for sharing [08:34] Sandyman is a nice nick as well [08:34] lmfao [08:47] inetpro: The boring technology one? [08:48] stickyboy: actually both interesting... having said that I just did speed reading over them [08:51] I need to spend much more time with docker before I can really say I understand the stuff [08:51] and the other one goes way over my head but still is interesting [08:56] stickyboy: the 2nd link has more gems hidden behind the links... just wish I had enough time to read all that [09:00] * mazal peeks in [09:00] ThatGraemeGuy: You were looking for me ? [09:01] Oh and morning everyone [09:03] haha mazal groete [09:03] Alweer malhuis hier oom , kannie onthou of ek gegroet het vanmore nie :P [09:04] geen probleem [09:04] mazal: yes takealot had an ssd on special today but its sold out [09:05] ah man !! [09:05] Slap me next time ThatGraemeGuy :) [09:05] subscribe to the daily deals newsletter, there's forever SSDs on special [09:06] at least once a week typically [09:06] I am subscribed , but come to think of it , I haven't seen one of those mails in a while [09:07] if you have an android, the app also notifies you when daily deals go live [09:07] My poena von brugen phone doesn't have that hehehe [09:08] There should be somewhere on their site where I can check that newsletter subscription , will check it out [09:09] lol , tried to sign up again now and get " [09:09] takealot.com is currently experiencing technical difficulties. [09:09] We're sorry for the inconvenience. [09:11] hmmm...Tried again and was successful. So why didn't I get the " This email is already used " error. Something happened to my subscription it seems. No worries , done again now [09:11] lol [09:12] inetpro: Ah, the comments on the Hacker News thread about Docker. Yah. [09:12] Basically: Docker solves non of the problems I was having. [09:12] Or, answers none of the questions I was asking. [10:02] uh oh! [10:02] hmm... [11:19] finally - aluminium that is actually aluminium [11:19] * Cryterion gets bounced from department to department by telkom, grrr [11:22] https://xkcd.com/806/ [11:30] Anybody that can help me with a git question please [11:30] I cloned with the command "git clone" [11:30] What is the command the check and add changed later on ? [11:31] changes* [11:44] you cloned someone else's repo? or your own fork? [11:44] somone else [11:44] git pull [11:46] ta [11:46] Trying to learn to work with git [11:47] And had a very blonde moment with pull not working and thought I had wrong command [11:48] good luck [11:49] i still haven't quite figured it out [11:49] the git documentation is a good read [11:53] I read the helped file and pull is the one that made sense but kept failing. And then the light when on that I am not standing in the created folder :P [12:13] oom Kilos [12:13] ja seun [12:14] Did you guys beat that TB problem of the other night ? [12:14] well langjan said it was fixed [12:14] What fixed it ? [12:14] no one knows [12:15] k [12:15] maybe a shudown restrt lett the settings work [12:15] hehe [12:15] restart [12:15] Reminds me of an intern we had [12:15] He had only 2 options for any problem [12:15] he was here last night at the meeting [12:15] 1. Restart [12:15] and you werent\ [12:15] 2. If restart didn't fix , format lol [12:16] lol [12:16] Needless to say , that didn't last long here lol [12:17] ya peeps fought with me in the beginning as well [12:17] RE the meeting , 8:30 is too late for me. I shutdown and go to bed at around 9 and don't like leaving half-way [12:17] excuses excuses [12:18] i stay up for midnight meetings some times [12:18] and i love sleeping [12:20] mazal I found https://git-scm.com/documentation to be more user-friendly than trudging through man pages [12:23] Thanx ThatGraemeGuy [12:23] Bookmarked it [12:24] Kilos: I work early , needs some sleep :P [12:24] i have a pidgin crash report but cant highlight it [12:25] what ways are there to highlight a whole page [12:25] mazal thats fine as long as its not gaming keeping you away [12:26] the new guy also gets going early [12:26] Gaming is also mostly till 9pm [12:26] haha [12:26] I try to not go later than that , otherwise I get in bed too late and suffer the next morning [12:26] Getting old now [12:27] And something that really frustrates me , I am one of those people that toss and turn for long time before I actually fall asleep [12:27] Mind doesn't shut down [12:28] hmm... the new guy broke something with his testing [12:28] i have that prob as well [12:28] and if hands and feet cold cant sleep till they warm [12:29] you aren't drinking enough wine at night if you struggle to fall asleep :D [12:29] lol [12:29] lol [12:29] I must try that , or whiskey [12:29] sjoe [12:30] Whiskey is sommer good for the heart as well [12:31] they say red wine is too [12:32] i never aquired a taste for whiskey :-/ [12:32] yucky stuff [12:35] Yeah , not easy that [12:35] But when I was young we drank it a lot [12:35] Less babelas [12:36] K crash time for now [12:36] Have a nice afternoon guys [12:36] you too [12:36] I have some git homework to go and do :) [12:37] cheers for now === MaNL is now known as MaNI [13:12] *yawn* [13:13] aw my fly [13:13] already [13:13] or still [13:14] moo [13:14] Both. On my way home, actually, but not to sleep. [13:14] aw [13:15] I'll probably nap now on the train. [13:15] your second idea is launching as we speak superfly [13:15] Ya, good idea. [13:15] My second idea? [13:15] I have ideas? This is news to me. [13:15] getting lugs involved with us [13:16] you have good ones, you just forget them [13:30] hmm, apparently you can static ip's with telkoms home adsl now [14:31] Kilos o/ [14:31] o\ [14:31] o/ [14:31] o\ [14:31] o/ [14:32] hi rusbus [15:31] dafuq [15:32] shhh im listening to my daughter sing to my sister over skype [15:34] Bandwidth used 882.95 GB [15:34] someone is mad at me [15:35] Kilos: sounds cute lol [15:51] * mazal is brave [15:52] Trying to use git on Win :P [15:52] NOT as easy as on ubuntu [16:09] its very slow on win [16:09] or at least it was last time I had to use it [16:22] Good evening [16:22] hi gremble [16:23] How are you Kilos? [16:23] good ty gremble and you [16:23] kinda cold but [16:25] I am well thank you. Also rather cold and hungry. The power just came on, so we should be eating in a bit [16:26] evening everyone [16:26] Hey Cryterion [16:27] anyone know how to set a cron job to run at startup only? [16:27] That's called a startup service [16:28] I know how to set those up using systemd, but not upstart [16:30] think I remember something I did somewhere with init.d [16:32] rofl. if you search for a service using `ps aux | grep ` grep returns its own service as well [16:36] but then again, it's not really a service, just a command, wget to update dns [16:36] It doesn't necessarily stay on like a service. It's just arbitrary naming. [16:37] just gonna run in manually for now, telkom giving me a static ip soon anyway [16:37] Pop that shit in a bash script, and then have it execute at startup [16:37] :p [16:38] Why do you need to update your dns because you have a dynamic ip? [16:40] dynamic ip changes periodically, if you running a home webserver you need to update the dns record with the new ip if it changes [16:42] And then hopefully I get my static ip in a few days, so the mail server can actually send out mail :) [16:42] Ah [16:48] Guys. I'm about to blow your minds: Turning's Halting Problem is a practical extention of Russell's Barber Paradox. It relies on self-reference to prove a paradoxical implication. [17:56] Kilos: sorry I missed yesterdays meeting, forgot about [17:57] np [18:00] but I remembered the Africa meeting :) [18:00] a bit funny though could not attend my own countries meeting [18:00] lol [18:00] lol [18:00] I will try to remember the next one [18:09] good evening [18:10] Good evening magespawn [18:10] hi magespawn you gonna join africa for first meeting [18:10] and you gremble [18:10] hi gremble Kilos [18:10] sure [18:10] when? [18:11] starts in 20 mins on #ubuntu-africa [18:11] I may as well. I am here [18:28] Cryterion, you can use a line like "@reboot /path/to/thing.sh" [18:28] assuming default ubuntu cron daemon [18:29] if not 'man 5 crontab' to make sure [18:29] ThatGraemeGuy, doesn't matter now, getting a static IP in a few days [18:29] cool [18:30] Nice. :o [18:30] Now which way would be better, ThatGraemeGuy? Adding something like that to your startup sequence or making it a cronjob? [18:30] telkom has extended their static ip's to home users now as well, still new, think I'm one of the first [18:32] I had as cronjob, scheduled hourly, but when you in a hurry it's a different story [18:32] a simple dynamic dns updater? I just put that in my user crontab [18:32] duckdns ftw [18:33] I don't just run it at reboot though, IP can change independent of the server's rebooting [18:33] going static now, have to due to mail server [18:33] urgh good luck [18:34] so glad we don't host mail [18:34] only hosting my own personal [18:35] still painful, ugly business [18:35] everything working except for sending mail, gets rejected due to most dynamic ip's being listed in PBL on spamhaus.org [18:35] yep [18:36] that's why I'm going static [18:36] static ip might not solve that for all blacklists [18:36] but you'll have to try it and see [18:36] Yeah, but can sort that out as it comes [18:36] hehe [18:36] good luck :) [18:37] I'm learning, and best way is just in and do it [18:43] hi zabear, welcome to the channel [19:04] Night all , sleep well === Kilos is now known as Kilosty === Kilosty is now known as Kilos [20:25] good night [20:25] night lad [20:40] night all. sleep tight [20:58] Has anyone seen Black Cat, White Cat?