[00:00] <z1gz1g> Wilee if i had a working host os i would've done that lol
[00:00] <z1gz1g> And i disagree with this irc client. No tag option =\
[00:01] <wileee> z1gz1g, Ah, well without a real check, you have no evidence it is good is all, you would be thrown out of deh court. ;)
[00:01] <wileee> not saying it's the issue but there is a basic model; of checking
[00:02] <z1gz1g> Wileee, unless of course i can replicate the fault with media from another source.
[00:02] <wileee> z1gz1g, still would want hard data
[00:02] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: did that work
[00:03] <LonelyDanbo> what?
[00:03] <cryptodan_laptop> the steam download
[00:03] <LonelyDanbo> I guess. but steam won't run.
[00:04] <wileee> z1gz1g, I'm on your side, I just like a good scientific based inquiry when needed.
[00:04] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: any errors?
[00:04] <LonelyDanbo> yeah. Steam Error "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display"
[00:05] <z1gz1g> Wilee, hey, cant prove a fault without evidence can yah?
[00:05] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: youll need to install your video card drivers
[00:05] <Berry> tgm4883: Hey, I'm the guy with the hard drive issue from earlier
[00:05] <LonelyDanbo> how was I running WoW in Wine but the damned Steam app won't run?
[00:05] <Berry> tgm4883: The hard drive issue is fixed, but I still have a flash drive issue
[00:06] <LonelyDanbo> how do you install video card drivers in linux?
[00:06] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: WoW uses DirectX not OpenGL
[00:06] <LonelyDanbo> yay. ok.
[00:06] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, Look in software & sources last tab for drivers available
[00:06] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: what computer do you have
[00:07] <LonelyDanbo> I don't remember my hardware.
[00:07] <LonelyDanbo> software & updates in settings?
[00:07] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, tyoe it in the dash
[00:08] <Berry> Actually, can anyone in general help with flash drives that can't be read?
[00:08] <z1gz1g> LonelyDanbo, when do you get rhe error?
[00:08] <LonelyDanbo> ah. it's "using NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.125 from nvideia-304
[00:08] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, If you can't even name the hardware, your gonna have problems here, just a heads jup.
[00:08] <LonelyDanbo> I get the error when I try to run Steam
[00:08] <wileee> up*
[00:08] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: try updating your driver to nvidia-331
[00:09] <z1gz1g> Installing now to see what happens lol
[00:09] <wileee> z1gz1g, Your arguments are really bad but good luck. ;)
[00:10] <LonelyDanbo> ok, thanks. it's applying changes.
[00:12] <xheart> hi
[00:12] <xheart> are there programs for ubuntu 14.04lts to check if i have malware?
[00:13] <xangua> xheart: why do you think you have malware?
[00:13] <xheart> after upgrading to 14.04lts i have to constant reconnect to my internet wifi
[00:13] <z1gz1g> Woo! Total lock up! Thats new.
[00:14] <xheart> i have to do this every 10 to 15mins of browsing the interent
[00:15] <xheart> i have noticed if i use this chat or a download from ubuntu servers i get no problem of connection but when i use mozilla or chrome that is where the issue starts
[00:16] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: remember to reboot
[00:16] <z1gz1g> Xheart, sounds like a new feature to me, but install clamav if you wanna do a virus scan
[00:16] <tgm4883> Berry: what flash drive issue?
[00:17] <xheart> can i download it from the terminal?
[00:17] <xheart> what is the command?
[00:17] <Berry> tgm4883: What?
[00:17] <Berry> tgm4883: They worked earlier both on an xp and the ubuntu
[00:18] <z1gz1g> Xheart, sudo apt-get install clamav i think
[00:18] <Ben64> Berry: plug flash drive in, then pastebin the output of "dmesg"
[00:20] <LonelyDanbo> I'm being told Steam doesn't work with kernel version 59 and I have to go back to 58
[00:20] <Berry> tgm4883: It was so big, the terminal cut part of it off.
[00:21] <xangua> z1gz1g: a virus scan of what? Windows virus?
[00:21] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: what kernel do you have
[00:21] <Berry> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/Ggm4tSjH
[00:21] <LonelyDanbo> I don't remember
[00:21] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, if so, you'll find that actually documented somewhere.  Do a search and rely less on "someone told me".
[00:22] <cryptodan_laptop> LonelyDanbo: type in a terminal uname -a and copy and paste the output here
[00:22] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: it's documented
[00:23] <LonelyDanbo> Linux [computer name] 3.11.0-18-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 18 21:11:14 UTC 2014 x86_64
[00:23] <tgm4883> LonelyDanbo: uh, you don't have the affected kernel
[00:23] <LonelyDanbo> bleh.
[00:23] <tgm4883> LonelyDanbo: so whoever told you that needs smacked up side the head
[00:23] <cryptodan_laptop> steam works fine for me on kernels 3.2 to 4.0.5
[00:24] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, I have #59 + steam.  WFM
[00:24] <LonelyDanbo> well my Wine is still broken.
[00:24] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, unrelated
[00:24] <LonelyDanbo> well not broken, just broke some of my games for it.
[00:24] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: you have the affected kernel on 14.04 and it works for you?
[00:24] <LonelyDanbo> I'm so addled I can't keep track of all this stuff.
[00:25] <johnny_|_> Hi. How can I switch names of eth0 and eth1? I am using ubuntu 14.10. I found some old threads but I don't have any file in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[00:25] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, paste.ubuntu.com/11956721/
[00:26] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: that isn't the affected kernel :/
[00:26] <xheart> how do i run clamav?
[00:26] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: 3.13.0-59
[00:26] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, ah.  OK.  my mistake.
[00:26] <xheart> i download it
[00:27] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: no worries, but since you wanted documentation https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3936   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1479093
[00:27] <xheart> hi guys
[00:27] <cryptodan_laptop> tgm4883: I have used that kernel with steam just fine
[00:27] <xheart> how i run clamav?
[00:28] <xheart> i downloaded it
[00:28] <cfhowlett> !clamav | xheart
[00:28]  * tgm4883 sighs
[00:28] <tgm4883> cryptodan_laptop: and you are on 14.04?
[00:28] <cfhowlett> xheart, I believe it launches from the command line.
[00:28] <cryptodan_laptop> tgm4883: yes
[00:29] <tgm4883> cryptodan_laptop: and you're sure you ran it on that kernel?
[00:29] <cryptodan_laptop> tgm4883: yes I am positive
[00:29] <tgm4883> cryptodan_laptop: and you want a cookie?
[00:29] <xheart> i am sorry can you explain me?
[00:29] <wileee> !av | xheart
[00:30] <tgm4883> cryptodan_laptop: sorry to be like that, but honestly, I just posted documented bug reports that point at that.
[00:31] <cfhowlett> xheart, do NOT install from download.  install from software center.
[00:31] <cfhowlett> !info clamav | xheart
[00:32] <xheart> i am in the terminal but it is not downloading yet
[00:32] <xheart> nevermind 1%
[00:32] <cfhowlett> xheart, dude.  STOP.
[00:32] <cfhowlett> xheart, ok, so it's working?  keep going
[00:33] <wileee> xheart, Nothing you described indicates any need for a antivirus, this is a wild goose chase on a wifi issue.
[00:33] <xheart> hahaha i cancelled, should i continue?
[00:35] <johnny_|_> How can I switch names of eth0 and eth1? I am using ubuntu 14.10. I found some old threads but I don't have any file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ (sorry for repeat)
[00:36] <wileee> johnny_|_, You are eol on 14.10
[00:38] <johnny_|_> let's pretend i'm on 14.04 then
[00:38] <wileee> johnny_|_, You have no support here.
[00:39] <wileee> lets pretend I say this, because I actually care
[00:40] <wileee> !eol
[00:40] <cfhowlett> wileee, note: 14.10 = end of life.  end of life = no longer supported.  no longer supported = the only advice you will receive is "upgrade to a supported OS".
[00:40] <Gallomimia> whats the command to show the release?
[00:40] <Sa300be> hi every guys, i am new to ubuntu and like to learn linux, where do you suggest to start??
[00:40] <wileee> cfhowlett, your point is?
[00:41] <tgm4883> Gallomimia: lsb_release -a
[00:41] <bazhang> !manual | Sa300be
[00:41] <bazhang> !rute | Sa300be  and this
[00:43] <wileee> cfhowlett, back to ignore for you, not worth even seeing your nick, nor being instructed on what I see you do yourself, grow up
[00:46] <zebaws> Hey guys! I am working on a sociology survey. Could anyone take 5 mins to fill it out for me? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19-HAIUfYP8H1F1xRS01NT6spkoMRphMyvzW5BBtCSJg/viewform?usp=send_form
[00:46] <bazhang> wrong channel zebaws
[00:46] <Kali_Yuga> No
[00:48] <Sa300be> ubottu, thanks alot for your reply.
[00:50] <rw5ok> hello there, I created an installer usb, but my bios rejects it saying 'missing operating system'..but when I view the usb contents, installer folders are all there. also the strange thing is that the usb doesnt appear in file manager until I mount it. normally it mounts automatically.
[00:50] <wileee> rw5ok, created how?
[00:51] <rw5ok> wileee, with the 'startup disk creator' of ubuntu
[00:54] <outfall> list
[00:55] <wileee> rw5ok, No issues before with this flash stick?
[00:55] <wileee> booting an install?
[00:56] <rw5ok> wileee, actually no. no-mounting used to happen with the OS that was previously installed on it
[00:56] <rw5ok> but the same usb auto-mounts when there is non-OS content in it
[00:59] <rw5ok> wileee, anyway, I changed the installer usb. trying with a new one :)
[01:00] <wileee> rw5ok, Good test, yeah, which one?
[01:00] <wileee> ah the usb
[01:01] <rw5ok> wileee, another OS could be a good way to test the usb, you mean?
[01:02] <rw5ok> that can be tried, too
[01:02] <wileee> rw5ok, I was thinking another usb loader, but also a si=um check, maybe a new partition table and partition, a sum check maybe.
[01:02] <wileee> sum*
[01:03] <rw5ok> wileee, as soon as I can get my hands on it, I will first learn what these are, then try to find out if the usb is ok :)
[01:04] <rw5ok> I mean more the checksum, I understand the rest :)
[01:05] <wileee> rw5ok, That is just my methodology based on knowing everything works here, it is a biased opinion.
[01:05] <wileee> !checksum | rw5ok tis should help
[01:05] <xheart> when running clamscan how i know it is running?
[01:06] <rw5ok> wileee, oh, thank you!
[01:06] <wileee> no prob
[01:06] <rw5ok> now I made the new installer. will try with this one..thank you for all your hints and help, wileee!
[01:13] <`itsmee-> hitler mankinds leader
[01:13] <`itsmee-> sup
[01:13] <cfhowlett> `itsmee-, not interested.  take you nonsense elsewhere
[01:15] <Bleakwar> Hello?
[01:15] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, ask your ubuntu question
[01:18] <Bleakwar> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a computer that originally used windows xp but every time i get this error saying that it can't download metadata and therefore the iso
[01:18] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, XP computer?  sounds like old hardware.  lubuntu loves old hardware.  use torrents.
[01:20] <Bleakwar> I trying to install ubuntu to a computer using a usb method and i use usb universal installer to turn the flash drive into a bootable drive, when i try to install it gives me a metadata error
[01:21] <wileee> Bleakwar, Are you using the mini net install?
[01:21] <wileee> !checksum | Bleakwar
[01:22] <Bleakwar> I'm using the default desktop  install
[01:23] <jjavah0lic> if you were to use the free windows 10 upgrade to split and add a ubuntu partition how would/should you go about doing that for best outcome?
[01:23] <wileee> Bleakwar, This is what release?
[01:23] <bbubbu> Can someone please help me get past this problem
[01:23] <bbubbu> error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:24] <cfhowlett> jjavah0lic, why would you even do that?  ubuntu can make its partitions.
[01:24] <theking> @martian
[01:24] <Bleakwar> 15.04 release
[01:24] <wileee> jjavah0lic, Windows cant build a ext type partition, leave an unallocated space for ubuntu.
[01:24] <jjavah0lic> just bought a new laptop with windows with free upgrade
[01:25] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | jjavah0lic, install windows first.  then install ubuntu.
[01:25] <wileee> !uefi | jjavah0lic Check this as well, confirm your setup.
[01:25] <bbubbu> Should I do something like "sudo apt-get install libcurl" ?
[01:25] <cfhowlett> jjavah0lic, no word yet on how linux friendly windows 10 is ...
[01:26] <Melio> we will find out in several short days
[01:26] <theking> @Andy Weir
[01:26] <bbubbu> I mean actually I tried that and it doesn't help at all
[01:28] <Bleakwar> oh, by the way my old computer is currently using beta windows 10, i want to replace it with ubuntu
[01:29] <Melio> Bleakwar, so burn an iso and have at it
[01:29] <Melio> do you need assistance,
[01:30] <wileee> jjavah0lic, If you plan to upgrade the windows I would get it all done and backed up and than install ubuntu.
[01:30] <Melio> generic first step, backup your stuff
[01:31] <wileee> jjavah0lic, Make a recovery disk in windows if you don't have an install disk, manufacturers generally will give you one cheap, or MS.
[01:32] <erik__> hola
[01:32] <Bleakwar> it came up with the error, cannot download the metalink and therefore the iso
[01:32] <erik__> alooo
[01:32] <cfhowlett> !es | erik__,
[01:33] <erik__> gracias
[01:34] <Bleakwar> my question is do i have to be connected to internet to finish the install?
[01:34] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, no
[01:36] <Bleakwar> sigh, i though that was the answer, i've installed lubuntu to my netbook before it died, it didn't need it etheir
[01:37] <Melio> I dual boot, it's pretty simple to do if you know your configuration, have some experience in understanding files, partitions ect..
[01:38] <Melio> ubuntu is a fantastic os for detecting pretty much all your hardware, and works better for wifi ect.. then windows does out of the box
[01:38] <treeprogram> Hi, I'm a relative Ubuntu newbie, and I'm trying to apply the following: to fix a similar problem I'm having with my Asus Zenbook. However, I don't know where the file mentioned can be found. Any help?
[01:38] <treeprogram> the following: http://askubuntu.com/questions/587063/battery-indicator-always-says-using-battery-power-even-when-plugged-in-asus
[01:38] <Melio> what's the file named
[01:38] <treeprogram> specifically, "The culprit is here, inside method FBST (called inside _BST)"
[01:39] <treeprogram> from the askubuntu answer
[01:39] <treeprogram> here's the source: https://github.com/RehabMan/OS-X-ACPI-Battery-Driver/issues/7#issuecomment-53060956
[01:40] <Melio> someone mentioned in the thread a newer kernel may fix this
[01:40] <treeprogram> " Thanks to ACPIDebug, I hunt bit inside my DSDT, to find where is define fCurrentStatus. As you pointed me on _BST, it helps..."
[01:40] <Melio> have you tried a newer kernel
[01:40] <treeprogram> Melio: not yet, as the solution shutt1e mentioned seems quite easy, if I can find the file
[01:41] <orellabac> guys, how to make changes to synclient from CLI permanent?
[01:41] <jjavah0lic> just os I have this right there is an option in the ubuntu install to resize the ntfs partition?
[01:43] <Bleakwar> I think i figured out what the problem was, i think the usb boot installer wasn't up to date and started looking for the wrong iso name
[01:44] <cfhowlett> jjavah0lic, gparted is the usual partition resize tool and yes, it addresses ntfs partitions.  note: if you use it, next time you boot windows it will complain and demand you run /chkdsk
[01:45] <Auctus> what are these "features" firefox keeps talking about, never had unity before, what do they do? Youtube for example, do i wanna install some features
[01:45] <jjavah0lic> but no real damage is done to the windows partition?
[01:45] <cfhowlett> Auctus open firefox.  go to firefox information page.
[01:46] <cfhowlett> jjavah0lic, *cautiously* no.  but again: windows 10 may/may not be linux friendly.  My experience is with Win7
[01:49] <Bleakwar> so now to copy the iso to another flashdrive to give the program something to find
[01:52] <wileee> Bleakwar, If you click the update on install, you have to have net access. Careful with conclusions here and just following them.
 I think i figured out what the problem was, i think the usb boot installer wasn't up to date and started looking for the wrong iso name  This makes no sense is all
[01:55] <Guest88269> hi - i want to mention a big fail on ubuntu, which i will never use again. I installed ubuntu 14.4 LTS  on a windows machine, with 2 internal harddrives mounted. Chose the 'install side-by-side windows. The damn OS overwrite and wiped out my secondary hard drive by default. This should not have happened. you guys suck.
[01:55] <wileee> Bleakwar, Never use the usb loader as your download, you want that iso to test, use as a tool....etc.
[01:56] <orellabac> synclient is used to change the area of virtual button on touchpads. But I can't get it to store the changes permanently. Need help pls.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> Guest88269: Reported : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 .
[01:57] <Bleakwar> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.9 i used this to turn my flash drive into a boot drive to install ubuntu and in the error log it showed that it was looking for 14.10, it was looking for the wrong iso
[01:57] <Guest88269> downloaded version hours ago - i really hope Ubuntu disappears and anyone who supports it -loses a harddrive full of data due to idiots incompetence.
[01:58] <tgm4883> Wow, such insight
[01:59] <wileee> Bleakwar, You should not be downloading that way is all.
[01:59] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, I understand his anger ... but seems he wanted to vent/rant, not seek a solution.  Of course, as his drive has been written, solutions would be limited in any case.
[02:00] <chingao> Guest88269: it sucks that you lost a harddrive full of data. I would be mad too. Do you have a backup to restore from?
[02:00] <wileee> long gone
[02:01] <Bleakwar> I've been downloading the iso from the web, and selecting the iso in my local files, to use when i use the flashdrive to boot from
[02:02] <wileee> Bleakwar, with the local iso clicked, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[02:02] <lkthomas> anyone running latest kernel 3.19 on desktop with nvidia card driver? seems dkms failed to build
[02:03] <Bleakwar> oh, i also tried to mount the iso using windows 10 and just loading the iso as a virtual disk
[02:03] <Bleakwar> it seems to be working
[02:05] <Bleakwar> nevermind, it didn't
[02:06] <tgm4883> lkthomas: I am, but I literally just installed this OS
[02:06] <Bleakwar> I'll try this way, wish me luck.
[02:07] <Bleakwar> I mean your way.
[02:07] <wileee> Bleakwar, which is?
[02:07] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone . considering buying a SSD to upgrade my lenovo t420.  options look like MSATA drive but its only SATA II, and replacing my 2.5" drive with a SSD (this is a SATA III interface).  obviously msata would be easier but it looks like you only get half the speeds you do on SATA III... what are your thoughts?
[02:08] <lkthomas> tgm4883, I see, the nvidia binary build failed
[02:08] <Bleakwar> using the link you posted
[02:09] <kokut> Hi, anyone knows an aplication for comparing two text files ?
[02:09] <kokut> line by line?
[02:09] <wileee> Bleakwar, you have to point the app at the iso and be sure the local iso is checked.
[02:10] <wileee> Bleakwar, If you have another fail check the sum of all that usb and iso
[02:10] <ablest1980> how do i change
[02:10] <ablest1980> ablest1980@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[02:10] <ablest1980> to
[02:10] <Bleakwar> okay, i'll retry that.
[02:10] <ablest1980> ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
 Have you tried using diff?
[02:11] <kokut> monostone: which one is better, diff or merge?
[02:11] <kokut> monostone: or merge
[02:12] <kokut> monostone: Meld*
 diff does what you want
 try: diff -u file1 file2
[02:13] <kokut> monostone: no man i need a gui
[02:13] <kokut> files are extremely different
[02:13] <Bleakwar> ??? I don't understand but this flashdrive is 32gb without formatting
 Sorry, don't know any file comparison tool with GUI.
[02:14] <wileee> Bleakwar, formatting does not change the size overall.
[02:15] <ablest1980> i want to change ablest1980@ablestx-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ ablest1980@ablest1980-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[02:15] <wileee> overall size, to be clearer Bleakwar
[02:15] <kokut> monostone: Meld is perfect for what i need
[02:16] <kokut> ty anyways
[02:17] <monostone> kokut: Sure thing, I just remembered "xxdiff", but haven't used it. its a GUI based compare,merge tool for files and folders.
[02:17] <ablest1980> how do i change my hostname?
[02:17] <Bleakwar> what i mean is that the number on the flash drive says 32gb but it never says more than 29.8 gb on the computer
[02:18] <wileee> Bleakwar, different measurement model usually, 1000mb is a gig to some 1024 is others
[02:18] <wileee> or data on the drive
[02:18] <wileee> if formatted
[02:19] <Bashing-om> ablest1980: Rdit 2 files - /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname .
[02:19] <Auctus> storage is 1000mb=gig all the time now, thanks to marketing, its crap :p
[02:19] <code__> change host name /etc/hostname
[02:20] <Bleakwar> i understand that, marketing wants to tell you it's gb using less because it's cheaper, but once formatted it's a bit less.
[02:21] <Bleakwar> tounge tied
[02:22] <Bleakwar> i understand the concept, that's what i mean to get across.
[02:26] <mustmodify> This is absurd. I need to use sed to add Google Analytics tracking to a bunch of HTML pages. ( I know, use a template, I just got handed this website using frameset and I want to get benchmarks before I start fixing things.) Can you do multiline replacement with sed?
[02:26] <mustmodify> I guess I could just do "s/</html>/`cat file`" ... or however that works.
[02:27] <Bleakwar> this installer says it supports ubuntu 14.10 but nothing about 15.04
[02:28] <wileee> Bleakwar, Have you recognized the local iso box I keep mentioning?
[02:29] <wileee> and how to point the app at your iso?
[02:29] <Bleakwar> yeah, i installed using that the first time, and the second, and this time (the third)
[02:30] <wileee> Bleakwar, Not a clear answer, at least for me, two questions
[02:31] <wileee> Bleakwar, Anyway, there are a handful of usb loaders you can use in windows. I'm done at this point
[02:31] <Bleakwar> Yes i got what you've been telling me.
[02:32] <Bleakwar> I'm sorry that i've been difficult to help
[02:32] <Bashing-om> mustmodify: Tutorial:http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html .
[02:33] <wileee> Bleakwar, I would only say, if I asked how tall you were I would expect an exact measurement. ;)
[02:33] <Bleakwar> lol, i actually don't know the awnser on that one.
[02:34] <wileee> Bleakwar, Than you would not give a vague answer would you?
[02:34] <Bleakwar> I would say that i just don't know.
[02:35] <wileee> Bleakwar, if it was important you would measure, is this install important?
[02:35] <wileee> is our time important ;)
[02:36] <wileee> we're not paid here we are volunteering
[02:37] <wileee> not a big deal, it is your install, you will get it done at some point ;)
[02:37] <Bleakwar> yeah, i'm helping my mom by installing ubuntu to her computer for her, helping is important to me i just don't have good skills at communicationg with others.
[02:37] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, you're a good son.  :)
[02:37] <cfhowlett> !cookie | Bleakwar
[02:38] <wileee> Bleakwar, That's alright, in the end we want to see you succeed.
[02:38] <Bleakwar> thanks, but yeah, i am telling the program to use the local iso to install to the flashdrive.
[02:39]  * wileee loves passive aggressive behavior expressed, so lack of development
[02:39] <Bleakwar> ???
[02:39] <wileee> Bleakwar, not you
[02:39] <Bleakwar> oh, okay.
[02:40] <woody_> http://t.co/xnG9uMSK2s
[02:40] <Bleakwar> okay, it finished installing to the flashdrive, now to try and use the flashdrive to install to the computer
[02:44] <agent_white> Evenin' folks
[02:44] <Bleakwar> I've confirmed the problem, wubi keeps looking for a 14.10 iso
[02:45] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, wubi?  wubi is the worst install idea on a long list of ideas.  it's not supported and it WILL BREAK your ubuntu 14.04+         DO NOT WUBI
[02:45] <xangua> Bleakwar: the problem is wubi, don't use WUBI
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !wubi | Bleakwar
[02:46] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, your options:  windows + virtualbox + ubuntu (well lubuntu)      2.  dualboot
[02:47] <Bleakwar> oh, okay, I'll try to boot from the flashdrive then.
[02:48] <lee_> 有人在吗？
[02:48] <cfhowlett> !cn | Lee-
[02:49] <lee_> HELLO WORLD
[02:50] <cfhowlett> lee_ ask your ubuntu question
[02:51] <Bleakwar> when i try to boot from the flashdrive it leaves the screen blank with a cmd cursor blinking in the top left and i can't do anything.
[02:51] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, this is on your xp computer?
[02:51] <Bleakwar> Yes
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, old hardware. use lubuntu not ubuntu
[02:52] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | Bleakwar
[02:53] <Bleakwar> i'm guessing it's just a problem with the way the bios starts?
[02:53] <elev34> hello there, I just made a clean install. but I cannot open my encrypted disk. I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11957276/
[02:53] <Bleakwar> I'll install lubuntu just asking.
[02:53] <cfhowlett> Bleakwar, not necessarily.
[02:53] <elev34> I mean, the disk doesnt open in the new install even though the passwords are correct.
[02:54] <elev34> I ran update-upgrade, too. is it because something is still missing in the new install?
[02:54] <Bleakwar> okay, i'm guessing because this is a computer i just rebuilt this morning.
[02:54] <agent_white> elev34: Is "cryptsetup" installed?
[02:54] <elev34> agent_white, do I need to install this separately?
[02:54] <agent_white> elev34: "Failed to execute child process "cryptsetup" (No such file or directory)"
[02:55] <agent_white> elev34: Try running `sudo apt-get install cryptsetup`
[02:55] <elev34> agent_white, I saw this notice, but I thought it was an abnormal situation rather than a missing part..because I thought it was a natural part of ubuntu
[02:55] <elev34> now installing it indeed
[02:56] <elev34> will try again when install is done..hope it works
[02:56] <agent_white> elev34: Mmm it could be? I doubt it though.  Attempting to install an already installed program doesn't hurt a thing though.
[02:56] <elev34> no, no, it is indeed running an install..so apparently it wasnt installed already
[02:57] <agent_white> Aye! Good. I betcha that'll be the fix.
[02:57] <elev34> agent_white, yes, solved...thank you very much!..phew!..
[02:58] <agent_white> elev34: Cheers :)
[02:58] <elev34> :))
[02:58] <Bleakwar> could someone throw me the link for lubuntu?
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | Bleakwar
[02:58] <agent_white> Bleakwar: lubunu.net  ?
[02:59] <Bleakwar> thanks.
[03:01] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[03:01] <Bleakwar> i've spent two days customizing computers and most of today trying to put a os on it.
[03:02] <Bleakwar> thankyou all
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: I feel for you, I also still recall my 1st install .
[03:03] <Bleakwar> this still took less time than it did my first install
[03:04] <Bleakwar> a whole week on my netbook trying to get it to use lubuntu.
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: Once you have done a couple of ubuntu installs, only takes 20 minutes - good internet connectivity.
[03:05] <Bleakwar> I'm also going to keep a spare flashdrive with lubuntu installed to it, i used to use it to bypass loging in on school computers
[03:05] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: Also, ubuntu - If it is difficult, you are doing something wrong .
[03:07] <Bleakwar> yeah, my problem was that was trying to install using wubi, and it was looking for 14.10
[03:07] <wileee> Bleakwar, I suspected wubi was involved.
[03:07] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: We have been watching, we catch your back side. :)
[03:08] <wileee> ubuntu should install however lubuntu will be quicker
[03:08] <Bleakwar> when trying to install ubuntu my screen remains blank so i'm going to try lubuntu
[03:09] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Bleakwar
[03:09] <kuato> Hi guys, quick question about netatalk/afp share. I am running elementarty os (ubuntu) and this comes preloaded with some form of afp/netatalk as I am able to connect to my server right out of the bag, However what would be the best wat to automount this afp share with password credential, should it be added as a line to the fstab entry ? .
[03:11] <awtempler> Anyone use Shiny Server?
[03:13] <bodhi_zazen> kuato, I am goinng to guess elementary OS is off topic here, just as ubuntu would be i n#debian
[03:15] <awtempler> Anyone familiar with Shiny-Server on Ubuntu??
[03:15] <zero> 123
[03:15] <zero> hello
[03:15] <Guest61543> hello
[03:16] <Guest61543> you ren ma ?
[03:16] <wileee> Guest61543, Tell the channel your support need.
[03:17] <Bleakwar> "Phoenix award bios cmos" this is apparently my os chipset
[03:19] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: ?? I run Phoenix Award bios on this box .
[03:19] <johnny_> ?
[03:19] <Guest61543>  ？？？
[03:19] <Guest61543> how are you !
[03:20] <kuato> bodhi_zazen: You could be right, I merely stated that in case this is an edition as I cant remember if ubuntu comes preloaded with those same tools also without an apt-get. just wondering the best way to perma-mount a share in ubuntu./
[03:20] <histo> guanophobic: what?
[03:20] <histo> guanophobic: sorry wrong user
[03:21] <Bleakwar> sigh, this old emachine is so troublesome
[03:21] <histo> Bleakwar: did you try the nomodeset thing?
[03:22] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: Old hardware, lubuntu will make your life much easier . How much ram is installed ?
[03:22] <Bleakwar> I don't know what that is.
[03:22] <histo> Bleakwar:
[03:23] <histo> !nomodeset | Bleakwar
[03:23] <linocisco> hi all
[03:23] <Bleakwar> 4gb of ram @bashing
[03:23] <histo> linocisco: hello
[03:23] <jak2000> how to change the resolv.conf permanently i am change and when restart resolv.conf is empty
[03:24] <histo> jak2000: what are you using to connect to the network?
[03:24] <jak2000> cabled
[03:24] <histo> jak2000: is this a full desktop system?
[03:24] <jak2000> really its a virtual machine
[03:24] <histo> jak2000: but does it have a desktop with network manager?
[03:25] <histo> jak2000: In network manager you edit your connection and specify your DNS in there. If not you can edit /etc/network/interfaces file and specify nameservers there.
[03:26] <Bleakwar> when i said blank i ment it looks like a blank cmd from windows
[03:26] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: 4 gigs of ram, lubuntu should scream with a P4 or better processor .
[03:26] <jak2000> histo ok
[03:27] <jak2000> googling about interfaces.. (here i changed from dhcp to static ip but not specified the nameservers)
[03:27] <jak2000> thnaks
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: maybe what you are referring to - is booting to a terminal ?? Is the system asking for your username (login) ?
[03:29] <arooni-mobile>  im using the tomate app for pomodoros, but it makes this awful sound at the end of a pomodor;  is there any way to change the sound its making?
[03:29] <Bleakwar> no, just the typing cursor
[03:31] <teward> is there a way to set what the 'default' kernel that the Grub entries use is?
[03:31] <teward> (so I can 'default' to a specific kernel at boot, rather than using the absolute latest)
[03:31] <Bleakwar> you know what i mean? @bashing
[03:33] <histo> teward: edit /etc/default/grub and then update-grub
[03:33] <AC0HY> #W5KUB
[03:33] <arooni-mobile> where are sound assets usually stored for ubuntu/linux apps?  im using tomate to do pomodoros but the sound upon completing a 25 minute allotment of work is awful and i'd like to change it to an alternate  *.wav file.
[03:34] <AC0HY> quit
[03:34] <bodhi_zazen> wrong window AC0HY
[03:34] <wileee> teward, Check the grub manual
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> teward, http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry
[03:38] <Bashing-om> Bleakwar: We are backto a graphic's driver issue . Boot the liveDVD ( when you have it make up ) and we guide you to use that boot parameter 'nomodeset' to get ya booted in 'buntu's " try ubuntu " mode .
[03:39] <teward> bodhi_zazen: thanks
[03:40] <wileee> teward, That grub manual is a long arduous read, sorry about that, was about to give you the duplicate of that link.
[03:40] <bodhi_zazen> teward, it is not perfect, probable better, IMO, to put kernel upgrades on hold
[03:42] <teward> bodhi_zazen: ehh, I agree, but i don't want to remove -59-generic (on Trusty) and miss the fix for the latest-introduced kernel issues
[03:43] <bodhi_zazen> OK
[03:43] <teward> bodhi_zazen: and since i have -58-generic on here still, why not temporarily keep that as the default until -60-generic or w/e they use to fix the regression via the default settings rather than remove linux-image and the metapackage that keeps the kernel updates
[03:43] <teward> i can trim older kernels in the mean time xD
[03:43] <bodhi_zazen> sure
[03:51] <linocisco> hi all
[03:51] <AndChat499956> Hello everyone!
[03:51] <kryptomaniak> hello
[03:52] <linocisco> how to increase performance of ubuntu x64 on Dell Inspiron 3443 Core i7
[03:52] <linocisco> ?
[03:52] <AndChat499956> I'm planning on buying a printer. Which one do you think will be perfect for ubuntu 14.04
[03:52] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, depends on what is causing poor performance =)
[03:53] <bodhi_zazen> AndChat499956, check a hardware compatibility list
[03:53] <nicekiwi_> how can I pip from mysqldump into a tar file? not a gz file
[03:53] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen: it was preinstalled by windows 8.1  and it was faster
[03:53] <nicekiwi_> pipe*
[03:53] <AndChat499956> Okay, but my budget is around 100$
[03:53] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen: now with ubuntu x64 , and found slower and performance is sluggish even when moving cursor
[03:54] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, most slow downs are due to crapy hardware drivers - so get a linux compatible laptop or replace video / wireless etc
[03:54] <xangua> AndChat499956: one that is Linux compatible or at least provide you drivers, examplehttps://www.thinkpenguin.com/
[03:54] <bodhi_zazen> but again, depends on what is causing the slowdown
[03:54] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen: how can I find compatible drivers for that specific model?
[03:55] <xangua> There is an Ubuntu wiki section about hardware providers for Linux
[03:55] <bodhi_zazen> identify your hardware .... upgrade to latest kernel 4.1.2 perhpas
[03:55] <AndChat499956> xangua: thank you.
[03:56] <bodhi_zazen> AndChat499956, http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw and http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[03:56] <AndChat499956> bodhi_zazen: Thanks a lot.
[03:59] <linocisco> xangua: where is that wiki for  required drivers for my dell laptop?
[04:00] <xangua> linocisco: it's actually about hardware providers with Ubuntu or other Linux distros pre-installed
[04:01] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, for the most part, the drivers are built into the kernel. Some hardware , however, is closed source *cough* nvidia
[04:01] <bodhi_zazen> for the open source driver, update to the latest kernel
[04:02] <xangua> linocisco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[04:02] <bodhi_zazen> for the closed source, contact nvidia
[04:02] <bodhi_zazen> and check the hardware compatibility list just as with any os
[04:03] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen:  it came with windows 8.1 64bit pirate version and I removed and installed ubuntu 14.04 x64 and did apt-get update && upgrade and still performance the same
[04:03] <linocisco> xangua: it is not preinstalled like OEM
[04:03] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, next time but with Ubuntu preinstalled and try installing windows
[04:04] <bodhi_zazen> I am betting it is easier to install ubuntu then windows , at least in terms of finding drivers
[04:04] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, otherwise , identify your hardware as requested
[04:04] <xangua> linocisco: you can sometimes specify an Ubuntu OEM install if that's what you mean
[04:05] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, See http://askubuntu.com/questions/31618/how-can-i-find-my-hardware-details and http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw and http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[04:05] <Jamie_1> ugh... it wont let me upgrade to 14.10
[04:05] <linocisco> xangua: bodhi_zazen I dont want to use windows at all. that was why I removed all and installed ubunut fresh
[04:06] <xangua> Jamie_1: 14.10 is no longer supported
[04:06] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, so next time don't buy windows
[04:06] <Jamie_1> huh
[04:06] <bodhi_zazen> buy with Ubuntu pre-installed
[04:06] <Jamie_1> xangua: when did that happen?
[04:06] <xangua> !14.10 | Jamie_1
[04:07] <Jamie_1> well that really sucks for me.... :(
[04:07] <bodhi_zazen> Jamie_1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[04:07] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen: I dont want to buy windows. the original one is with ubutu OEM preinstalled but most end users here are only familiar with windows and the resellers removed default ubuntu on dell and reinstalled windows 81. crack version with correct drivers. that is the problem I am having
[04:07] <bodhi_zazen> non LTS seem to be supported for less time these days
[04:07] <Jamie_1> the current release of intel hd graphics drivers is only currently supported for 14.10 right now.... go fucking figure
[04:08] <bodhi_zazen> linocisco, most end users buy with ubuntu , rather then windows installed
[04:08] <xangua> bodhi_zazen: drop that language please
[04:08] <wileee> Jamie_1, You should not be using the intel tool
[04:08] <xangua> Jamie_1: ^
[04:08] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen: here is different only microsoft users
[04:08] <Jamie_1> wileee: i cant seem to find any other drivers for intel
[04:09] <linocisco> bodhi_zazen:  I can't find preinstalled laptop with ubuntu
[04:09] <wileee> Jamie_1, THe ones in the ubuntu are not working?
[04:09] <wileee> epo*
[04:09] <Jamie_1> wileee: thanks again for earlier... and there is no propriatary drivers at all
[04:09] <wileee> repo* sorry
[04:09] <wileee> not for intell I believe jamesd_
[04:09] <wileee> Jamie_1, ^^
[04:10] <xangua> linocisco: I just gave you a link you can find Linux vendors all around the world...
[04:10] <linocisco> xangua: thanks yes. i m lookiing now
[04:10] <xangua> But maybe you should focus in your actual problem
[04:10] <Jamie_1> wileee: I have the intel hd 3000 sandy bridge... and i can tell that its not using it to its full potential if almost at all
[04:10] <wileee> Jamie_1, Is this a must have the latest driver syndrome?
[04:11] <linocisco> xangua: I did apt-get update and upgrade but when I rebooted , software updater automatically run and asked me to install linux image and others so I proceed. I dont know why
[04:11] <Jamie_1> wileee: i know that the sandybridge is a rather nice processor and gpu mix... and it should be rendering with ease... but its not. I keep getting frame skipping
[04:12] <xangua> linocisco: you don't know why you are asked to install security updates? Please elaborate
[04:13] <histo> Jamie_1: frame skipping in what?
[04:13] <Jamie_1> histo: a steam game with the grapics even set to lowest and also a crap ton on my pcsx2
[04:14] <Jamie_1> my old six year old laptop before it died performed both the pcsx2 and game with better quality
[04:15] <linocisco> xangua: from GUI, software updater automatically popped up and asked me there are xxx packages to update since installation.  i proceeded and and finished and rebooted. found kernel image is updated from console prompt. let me check drivers using your link
[04:16] <xangua> Check drivers yo are using, using my link? I really don't get what are you trying to say linocisco
[04:16] <Jamie_1> any one have any ideas on how to increase performance than if not from drivers... i used to have the first gen i5 dual core with an 6 year old nvidia grapics card that was performing these tasks better than a i7 dual core with the intel hd 3000 grapics... which is kinda ridiculous
[04:17] <linocisco> xangua: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31618/how-can-i-find-my-hardware-details
[04:20] <linocisco> xangua: for example, using lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A1, It gave me output. How do I find correct drivers?
[04:22] <histo> Jamie_1: it probably didn't have intel video chipset if it performed better
[04:22] <M4j3st1c> fuck
[04:22] <xangua> linocisco: I seriously don't know what are you taking about, you asked me out of nowhere there is the Ubuntu wiki site about your drivers when I was taking about hardware vendors with Linux distros pre-installed
[04:22] <histo> Jamie_1: intel graphics chipset are not that good at all.
[04:24] <linocisco> xangua: lshw and other commands on http://askubuntu.com/questions/31618/how-can-i-find-my-hardware-details , gave me hints how to check audio, grahpic installed. but I dont know where to get required drivers for my specific model Dell laptop
[04:24] <xangua> ...
[04:25] <pawan> gh
[04:25] <pawan> helloo
[04:26] <pawan> la y que?
[04:26] <xangua> !ask
[04:27] <TechMonger> is there a way to get around changing public IPs with ssh?
[04:27] <Jamie_1> histo: from what i was told the sandy bridge chip set was rather nice
[04:27] <histo> TechMonger: what?
[04:28] <histo> TechMonger: oh you mean if the ip changes still being able to find the box?
[04:28] <TechMonger> my isp changes my public ip whenever it wants
[04:28] <Jamie_1> I didnt have to pay for it... so its whatever
[04:28] <TechMonger> yea
[04:28] <histo> TechMonger: get dynamic domain name then
[04:28] <TechMonger> i think my isp charges for that
[04:28] <histo> TechMonger: http://freedns.afraid.org/
[04:29] <xangua> Get a router?
[04:29] <Jamie_1> i forgot how much of a nightmare setting up a new laptop will all of my stuff for  both dev and fun was....
[04:30] <TechMonger> histo, can i do this myself?
[04:32] <agent_white> Jamie_1: I've been meaning to get around to diving into Puppet for that exact reason :P
[04:32] <pawan> how do i get ip of perticuler routor
[04:32] <pawan> ??
[04:33] <agent_white> TechMonger: Yup! It is something you can do yourself and is free (depending on the provider).  It is called "dynamic DNS".
[04:35] <wileee> pawan, If your after your own router, the ip is in network to access it.
[04:35] <pawan> not mine of course ...
[04:36] <wileee> pawan, This is not a hack channel if that is your goal.
[04:37] <pawan> so what is this channel for??
[04:37] <wileee> !topic
[04:40] <linocisco> i gave up and I can't really find any drivers for My Dell
[04:59] <xaj> Can anyone help me get git installed in ubuntu-15.04-snappy-armhf-rpi2? I was able to install wget and I’ve been pulling my hair out trying to get dependencies built with dpkg for git
[05:00] <gry> why not use repo?
[05:01] <LonelyDanbo> so the solution for this bug didn't fix it, and I can't load Steam as a result. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1268257
[05:01] <xaj> I don’t think that’s available in snappy @gry
[05:02] <gry> then use other release, in which it is available
[05:03] <xaj> So you’re suggesting I not use snappy because there’s no way to get git...
[05:03] <xaj> How am I supposed to build a snap without git? lol
[05:03] <xaj> scp is a PITA
[05:05] <xaj> I’m trying to clone guh-cli since it didn’t come in the guh snap
[05:05] <Mynameisjoejoe> Hey can someone help me with a techinal problem with ubuntu
[05:05] <Mynameisjoejoe> *technical problem
[05:06] <Mynameisjoejoe> Ello
[05:06] <Mynameisjoejoe> Anyone there?
[05:06] <wileee> Mynameisjoejoe, If you describe it, to the channel, maybe.
[05:06] <wileee> this is a volunteer channel is all
[05:07] <Mynameisjoejoe> Alright, so my computer will do this sometimes, i ill put on a youtube video and then all of a sudden my computer crashes to the login screen, i put in my password and it just crashes back to the login screen.... For me to fix it i have to restart my computer
[05:08] <Mynameisjoejoe> Anyone know what's up?
[05:08] <SpaceBebop> !botsnack
[05:09] <Mynameisjoejoe> What?
[05:09] <wileee> Mynameisjoejoe, I would include the the hardware, the ubuntu or flaver release and the desktop.
[05:10] <Mynameisjoejoe> The Hardware is a Macbook 13 inch, and its 14.04
[05:10] <LonelyDanbo> maybe something's overheating from the video.
[05:11] <wileee> Mynameisjoejoe, Cool, unity desktop we would assume. you can install lm-sensors an set up maybe a conky and watch the temp, your ram cpu and lots more.
[05:12] <LonelyDanbo> maybe I should try Mint. Someone one another channel suggested it, and someone else on the page for my nVidia driver issue also mentioned it.
[05:12] <LonelyDanbo> I'm getting so much trouble lately, with my Wine games breaking while trying to update, to Steam failing to run.
[05:14] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: are you saying that from the very beginning you were tying to run steam and steam games with wine?
[05:14] <LonelyDanbo> no. both separately.
[05:14] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, I have a harmonica about an inch long, should I play the blues for yah?
[05:15] <Fede> Hi!
[05:15] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: did you already tried asking in steam forums then? I believe there is an Ubuntu channel oriented to steam
[05:16] <Mynameisjoejoe> Anyone know what program i should downloa?
[05:16] <LonelyDanbo> I have not tried forums.
[05:17] <Mynameisjoejoe> What is the problem LonelyDanbo
[05:17] <LonelyDanbo> Steam won't run. Steam - Error. OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display.
[05:18] <LonelyDanbo> I changed the driver I was using to a more recent one, but didn't restart before doing an apt-get update and I forget what, and it gave me an error. the page for the error gave me a solution, but the solution didn't fix it.
[05:19] <LonelyDanbo> the error page was: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1268257
[05:20] <LonelyDanbo> Ubuntu worked great for a year when I didn't update anything. ... after taking 3 weeks to get things working initially.
[05:21] <SpaceBebop> !joke
[05:22] <SpaceBebop> Ouch, ubottu is killing me
[05:24] <LonelyDanbo> so my choices for Mint seem to be MATE based on GNOME 2, and Cinnamon.
[05:36] <ryilefer> Hey..I tried installing nvidia driver on my ubuntu 14.04 and ran into quite a few problems like frozen screen, not able to access anything beyond the login page,etc..I got really frustrated and reinstalled ubuntu again..could someone please help me install nvidia driver properly??
[05:42] <dididodo> Hi ... kernel 3.13.0-59 is crashing wine ... this has been confirmed by other users ... where can i find infos about the latest patches and workarounds?
[05:43] <xangua> ryilefer: is there something wrong with the open source drivers?
[05:43] <ryilefer> xangua: yeah..it keeps freezing.. I tried the proprietary, trusted version.. Same problem
[05:56] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, This is support not your crying game.
[05:57] <agent_white> ryilefer: So you're freezing up using either driver?
[05:58] <agent_white> ryilefer: If you can get to login, but see nothing after that... have you checked X11 logs? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) ?
[05:58] <ryilefer> agent_white : yes sir..I'm currently running it on x.org x server- nouveau display driver..
[05:59] <agent_white> ryilefer: Hm. Well if you freeze using nouveau AND the proprietary driver, then something else is up.
[06:00] <ryilefer> agent_white: currently on my phone so that I can go to crtl+alt+f1
[06:01] <ryilefer> agent_white: will install pastebin and send lspci..
[06:01] <agent_white> ryilefer: No need for lspci.
[06:01] <wileee> !optimus
[06:02] <ryilefer> ubottu: so I'll install via bumblebee?
[06:02] <agent_white> ryilefer: Check your logs.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log namely and first (since issues are after login), and then /var/log/debug as well... to start.
[06:02] <agent_white> ryilefer: Ignore that link.
[06:02] <wileee> ryilefer, I poped that up as it seems it may be an optimus setup, confirm with your helpers, I'm guessing.
[06:03] <wileee> popped*
[06:03] <agent_white> wileee: How so?
[06:03] <ryilefer> agent_white : can I pastebin the xorg log file for you to see?
[06:03] <agent_white> ryilefer: Please do!
[06:04] <wileee> agent_white, As I said I'm guessing, two cards nouveau and nividia, not trying to rain on anyones parade.
[06:04] <ryilefer> agent_white: paste.ubuntu.com/11957897
[06:05] <agent_white> wileee: Two cards? -- Oh I know, just not sure how you figured it to be optimus. You could be right! :P
[06:05] <wileee> agent_white, I have always had intel so no idea really.
[06:06] <wileee> used computers heh
[06:09] <agent_white> ryilefer: What video card do you have?
[06:09] <agent_white> ryilefer: Maybe lspci output would be helpful, as well :)
[06:09] <ryilefer_> agent_white: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11957886/
[06:14] <agent_white> ryilefer_: Are you using Unity?
[06:16] <ryilefer_> agent_white: i guess..ubuntu 14,04 lts
[06:18] <agent_white> wileee: you coul be right ;)
[06:18] <shine_> I have some kind of virus where a video player plays in the background whenever my browser is open and the only information I can find is windows specific - of course. It's kind of laughable, actually, this : http://www.fixyourbrowser.com/removal-instructions/remove-ads-video-player-virus-works/  site advocets running about 5 different virus and malware scanners in a row to solve the problem (but, again, windows specificl - lmao). So
[06:18] <shine_> what do I do though? This is interfering with my any work I try to do.
[06:19] <shine_> I'm using chrome btw
[06:19] <ryilefer_> agent_white: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11957959/ did  ' ps -ef | grep unity'
[06:19] <agent_white> wileee: Not sure if it's optimus or not though...?
[06:19] <wileee> agent_white, Not sure if bumblebee is the latest use is all, if this is optimus.
[06:20] <wileee> not sure here I just spend to much time here, heh'
[06:21] <wileee> shine I would reset the browser as a start save the bookmarks and turn off cookies and history.
[06:22] <wileee> clean it and keep it clean, virus I doubt
[06:23] <agent_white> ryilefer_: wileee seems to be right. Since there's only one VGA controller being shown (that being the onboard Intel), and 3D controller is showing your GeForce GT 720M, you need to follow the link wileee gave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[06:24] <ryilefer_> agent_white: will do..If i run into trouble, well...i;ll be back :)
[06:24] <ryilefer_> agent_white , wileee : thanks a ton you two :)
[06:25] <shine_> Can anyone offer suggestion as there is (apparently) no information about this where linux is concerned - only windoze
[06:26] <shine_> wileee: sorry didn't see -
[06:26] <shine_> Can't do that atm so I guess I'll have to suffer w/ it for a bit longer. Thanks for the idea though. I'm sure that will work
[06:34] <wileee> shine_, I would use an adblocker and flashblock in chrome, there are a few good addons.
[06:34] <wileee> I would wager that ad thang is running in flash
[06:36] <wileee> chromes reset saves the bookmarks, but a backup of them is good, cookies and history really are a waste if you have passwords saved your set.
[06:37] <wileee> I would say passwords not for anything like banks etc though
[06:38] <CB6> If the system always has errors on boot and asks to report the errors is there any system checking to insure the same error report isn't being sent over and over again from the same person?
[06:39] <dsodsi> is there a better way to execute cd ../../../ ?
[06:39] <wileee> CB6, Have you looked at the drop down ifo?
[06:40] <wileee> info*
[06:41] <shine_> wileee: thanks wilee - peace brother
[06:42] <agent_white> dsodsi: You can shorten "../" to ".." to "-"
[06:43] <Fuchs> err
[06:43] <wileee> CB6, That is apport, it will even popup on 3rd party issue is why I ask are you reading what the app is.
[06:43] <Fuchs> cd -    on most shells does something else
[06:43] <Fuchs> it pops back to the last directory used
[06:43] <Novice201y> Hello. After last reboot I see only command promt on the screen and Lubuntu doesn't load.
[06:44] <agent_white> dsodsi: Otherwise, make an alias or something.  See here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12198222/go-few-directories-up-in-linux
[06:44] <agent_white> Fuchs: Aye!
[06:44] <agent_white> Fuchs: That's my point. I was only stating what "../" could be changed to... and, of course, cannot be chained.
[06:45] <CB6> It didn't elaborate on the error
[06:45] <CB6> Nothing blatantly apparent anyhow.
[06:45] <agent_white> Fuchs: Oh wait!
[06:45] <agent_white> Fuchs: you're entirely right hahah.
[06:45] <wileee> CB6, Usually there is a more info click.
[06:46] <agent_white> dsodsi: Ignore my statement! "../" can be shortened to "..", but if you want to change multiple levels at once in a simple manner, make an alias.
[06:46] <Kartagis> who wants 100points on askubuntu.com? http://askubuntu.com/questions/648663/any-way-to-recover-my-3tb-usb-hdd
[06:46] <wileee> CB6, I can't say this is for you but I remove apport.
[06:47] <wileee> !testdisk
[06:47] <dsodsi> ok other thing please
[06:47] <wileee> Kartagis, testdisk
[06:47] <dsodsi> how can we display logs of locking unlocking session ?
[06:47] <dsodsi> not with last
[06:47] <Kartagis> wileee: testdisk says can't read the filesystem
[06:48] <wileee> Kartagis, Really, can't say for free there is anything better.
[06:48] <agent_white> dsodsi: Unlock screen events are in the /var/log/auth.log file.
[06:48] <dsodsi> it s empty
[06:48] <agent_white> dsodsi: `grep screen /var/log/auth.log*`   ?
[06:49] <wileee> Kartagis, I have two 2 terabytes drives, one is a backup the other is a backup of it.
[06:49] <dsodsi> nono it s ok
[06:49] <BLUG_Fred> Hi! Trying to install Ubuntu on a new MacBook Air (7,1) with Intel HD 6000 graphics and the text is not displayed... so it makes it a bit hard to move around. Anyone has a clue as to what to do? Google didn't help me much so far
[06:49] <CB6> When I load the system up it pulls some errors too fast for me to read
[06:50] <InFlames> does anyone ever have issues of windows getting trapped on a non-existent monitor when you plug/unplug a video cable?!?! it's driving me insane, been this way for a year, i can't take it anymore
[06:51] <wileee> BLUG_Fred, Have you had a look at the mac wiki?
[06:52] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: yes. It stops at version 6,2
[06:52] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: they're like Air from 2013
[06:52] <wileee> BLUG_Fred, I figured you had, no idea here.
[06:52] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: ok .. thanks.
[06:52] <dsodsi> thanks
[06:53] <BLUG_Fred> well I assume it's a graphic drivers problem
[06:53] <wileee> !nomodeset | BLUG_Fred this might be worth trying
[06:54] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: ok thank you. I'll read through that.
[06:54] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: any idea if ubuntu connects automatically to unsecured wifi?
[06:55] <BLUG_Fred> because I can't get online and update the distro without seeing the list of wifi...
[06:55] <wileee> BLUG_Fred, you can set it as the default I would think.
[06:55] <wileee> !wifi
[06:56] <InFlames> it seems the windows are being moved to a different workspace
[06:58] <agent_white> InFlames: Are you using Unity?
[06:58] <InFlames> yes
[06:59] <InFlames> I just tried locking the session and suspending it, neither caused it, it only happens when it naturally sleeps, or monitor is disconnected for a while
[06:59] <InFlames> so it seems...
[06:59] <CB6> Where do I go to check out the startup errors?
[07:01] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: after reading all this I'll try the text mode install.. I need to do another download :/
[07:03] <wileee> BLUG_Fred, Not sure with a mac booting the live, but all you need is that first gui that has a choice to try install or do a memory check, I think it is tapping shift at powering on the media till you see it.
[07:03] <agent_white> InFlames: Maybe do "SUPER+S" to grab the Window and move it to another workspace?
[07:04] <agent_white> Or switch to another workspace... "Ctrl+Alt+(left/down/right/up arrows)"
[07:04] <CB6> Is apport the error reporting?
[07:04] <BLUG_Fred> wileee: yeah.. let me try before doing another download... good point
[07:04] <wileee> BLUG_Fred, Than a f6 and choose nomodest
[07:04] <wileee> BLUG_Fred, It used to be you got that gui, now it bypasses it.
[07:06] <wileee> CB6, It is one I suspect there are others not sure. I would not get to caught up in seeing errors though. It is the type of error that is the key.
[07:07] <wileee> CB6, dmesg will show stuff
[07:07] <CB6> Every single start it does it lol. It didn't start this way so it's likely not a core default thing
[07:08] <wileee> CB6, YOU all updated and everything is working?
[07:08] <CB6> Not anymore
[07:08] <CB6> "Settings" and "About Us" pull down tabs no longer work
[07:10] <wileee> CB6, Ah, no idea, usually there is precursor you remember any preceding activities as a cause?
[07:11] <CB6> Whatever do I do with this output lol?
[07:11] <wileee> !pastebin
[07:11] <CB6> Update that day 60MB
[07:12] <xheart> hi
[07:13] <xheart> i ran clamscan and it found over 15 errors , what command in sudo i need to enter to fix those errors?
[07:13] <CB6> dmesg goes way beyond the scrollable viewer. Is there any way to get back to the dmesg area?
[07:13] <xheart> correction over 15k errors
[07:13] <wileee> CB6, we had a kernel upgrade lately, that people have been having issue with, you might check an earlier kernel
[07:13] <CB6> I have 14.02 or whatever it was
[07:14] <wileee> xheart, Show us the errors in a pastebin if you can.
[07:14] <InFlames> agent_white, i'll try that next time it happens (in a bit probably)
[07:14] <InFlames> thanks
[07:15] <wileee> CB6, If you were told to reboot after an update/upgrade you had a kernel change most likely
[07:15] <agent_white> InFlames: Mhm :)
[07:16] <xheart> wilee it is running now clamscan -remove
[07:16] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11958171/
[07:16] <CB6> been a few of those reboot requests
[07:17] <jimbo_> Hi, I cannot login my user using the loginscreen, it flashes black and then goes back to the login screen after I removed my NVIDIA drivers by running "Nvidia.run --uninstall".
[07:20] <wileee> CB6, right after you boot run  dmasg | less that will show since that boot http://lnag.sourceforge.net/lnag_html/node5.html#SECTION005403400000000000000
[07:20] <CB6> dmesg or dmasg?
[07:20] <wileee> CB6, Doh dmesg
[07:21] <wileee> sorry
[07:21] <CB6> making sure lol
[07:21] <CB6> when working with computers :P
[07:21] <wileee> my back hurts, heh
[07:22] <wileee> CB6, I rarely read this area, but it may help you and you have some evidence if there is anything.
[07:25] <CB6> ty
[07:26] <yeliztaneroglu> hey
[07:26] <morphyeys> is wubi still not working with windows 8?
[07:27] <D30> hello all, i am trying to boot an ubuntu iso to a kvm host using this url as location http://server1/iso/dists/trusty/
[07:27] <auronandace> i thought wubi was depreciated a long time ago
[07:28] <xangua> Will never
[07:28] <wileee> morphyeys, Not supported is all, not sure on W8 working.
[07:28] <D30> that ubuntu trusty iso is mounted via /mnt/iso folder
[07:28] <xangua> !wubi
[07:28] <D30> and link to /var/ww/html
[07:28] <D30> however i seem not able to figure out the correct url for it :(
[07:28] <wileee> morphyeys, A vm might work ok.
[07:28] <morphyeys> hello thanks
[07:28] <D30> i keep getting this error Could not find an installable distribution at 'http://server1/iso/dists/trusty/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/'
[07:28] <D30> The location must be the root directory of an install tree.
[07:29] <D30> i also tried just http://server1/iso/
[07:30] <D30> but still it wont work.. may i ask what would be the correct installatin url for ubuntu 14.04?
[07:32] <CB6> Has anyone in here actually got samba to work properly? I can see windows fine but windows can't see Ubuntu.
[07:34] <awtempler> Anyone familiar with shiny server?
[07:35] <Guest10> hi
[07:36] <OerHeks> CB6, maybe it is your antivirus
[07:36] <CB6> considered and disabled the AV firewall
[07:38] <OerHeks> CB6, use paste.ubuntu.com for your samba config, maybe it is just a setting
[07:39] <CB6> likely
[07:41] <pritam> hoe to list any specific file in terminal ?
[07:43] <OerHeks> pritam, man ls
[07:43] <wileee> awtempler, I checked the net, the ppa support it had stopped at 13.10, however I saw links on 14.04 and it.
[07:44] <wileee> independent parties though
[07:44] <awtempler> wileee: I have installed it (built from source)...it works....but i am having some issues with it
[07:44] <awtempler> on ubuntu 14.04 (32 bit)
[07:46] <xheart> is wilee here?
[07:46] <wileee> yes
[07:47] <xheart> how do i fix the errors?
[07:47] <xheart> o sent you the info
[07:48] <CB6> Should I be seriously weirded out by the fact that my practically new install doesn't allow me to click on system info or settings? I double click and nothing happens. Extremely suspicious
[07:48] <wileee> xheart, What errors, I was not sure why you were running clamav, I thought you had a wifi issue of disconnecting.
[07:49] <wileee> xheart, has to be a pastebin I have pm off
[07:49] <xheart> i have to be disconnecting and connecting to be able to surfer the web
[07:49] <xheart> SCAN SUMMARY -----------
[07:49] <xheart> Known viruses: 3920249
[07:49] <xheart> Engine version: 0.98.7
[07:49] <xheart> Scanned directories: 37993
[07:49] <xheart> Scanned files: 175261
[07:49] <xheart> Infected files: 0
[07:49] <OerHeks> !paste > xheart
[07:50] <OerHeks> xheart, we don' t need to see that whole list, what are you thinking?
[07:53] <wileee> I'm gonna guess the errors are root something not accessible
[07:54] <pritam> hi ubottu
[07:55] <Fuchs> ubottu would be a bot and not answer you directly
[07:55] <pritam> Fuchs, I know!! just kidding
[07:56] <Fuchs> and he isn't terribly intelligent, as he just wrote  (someone should probably fix that regex there a bit)
[07:57] <agent_white> Poor ubottu. Born into a world of spaghetti regex.
[08:01] <morphyeys> Hello guys, how can I zip all the .txt files from directory ?
[08:03] <x4w31> morphyeys: zip archivomultiple.zip archivo1.txt archivo2.txt archivo3.txt etc....
[08:03] <x4w31> sudo apt-get install zip unzip
[08:05] <aa_> when I use smplayer,click "open file",it create a window by gtk,but smplay is develped by QT
[08:06] <morphyeys> x4w31, what about zip archivename.zip *.txt ?
[08:07] <ObrienDave> ^^^ way to easy ;P
[08:07] <x4w31> morphyeys: the sintax is zip FinalArchive.zip Archivetocompress1 Archivetocompres2....
[08:07] <x4w31> or *.txt not run?
[08:08] <ObrienDave> zip from the directory above. easy
[08:08] <agent_white> morphyeys: Or... `zip archivename *.txt` . No need to add the extension ;P
[08:08] <x4w31> exactly * only.
[08:08] <x4w31> prepair folder and end it :P
[08:10] <agent_white> aa_: smplayer has a dependency of qt5-script.  Just because it is developed by QT doesn't mean it doesn't use additional GUI libraries.
[08:12] <agent_white> aa_: Rather... QT aren't the developers, they are just one library used.
[08:12] <mcfrisk> Hi! How to do apt pinning in ubuntu 14.04? It seems like default release names like trusty are not know so APT::Default-Release "trusty"; can not be set, fails with "E: The value 'trusty' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources"
[08:17] <wileee> mcfrisk, You had a look at man apt
[08:18] <wileee> there is a web page way easier to read
[08:18] <OerHeks> !pinning
[08:18] <b1naryfin> 	
[08:19] <b1naryfin> exit
[08:22] <mcfrisk> wileee & OerHeks: thanks, luckily I just had a typo in /etc/apt/sources.list and had only deb-src repos for trusty there. With both deb and deb-src apt is fine with default release name of trusty.
[08:23] <wileee> mcfrisk, The error was weird, good job.
[08:27] <aa_> agent_white: yes ,but why smplayer don't use qt library and use gtk library
[08:29] <OerHeks> aa_, that filedialog is part of the operatingsystem, i guess that is dominant over a QT dialog box
[08:31] <funkenstrahlen> Hey, I call 'ssh-copy-id -i /home/vagrant/.ssh/id_rsa.pub -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no i42n@auriga.uberspace.de' and get 'command-line: line 0: Bad configuration option: umask' as an error. Why?
[08:32] <funkenstrahlen> If I remove the stricthostkeychecking option the error does not occur
[08:34] <aa_> OerHeks:how to do it?I want smplayer use Qt dialog box in ubuntu
[08:35] <OerHeks> aa_, kubuntu will work i guess
[08:35] <ObrienDave> xubuntu ;p
[08:36] <ObrienDave> oh, *bites fingers*
[08:36] <OerHeks> not sure it is even possible what you are asking, QT dialogs
[08:36] <ObrienDave> aa_, does it work? if yes, whay does it matter?
[08:37] <backbox> Any ONe ther?
[08:44] <funkenstrahlen> my problem was a bug in openssh. upgrading solved it.
[08:46] <cynixx3> I need some dual boot help. I can only access my USB iso with uefi disabled. do I need to have uefi enabled while installing the OS?
[08:47] <EriC^^> cynixx3: do you have windows installed in uefi mode?
[08:47] <cynixx3> EriC^^,  yes
[08:47] <EriC^^> then you need to boot ubuntu in uefi mode
[08:47] <cynixx3> I am trying to.
[08:47] <EriC^^> how did you make the usb?
[08:48] <cynixx3> yumi
[08:48] <EriC^^> try linux live usb creator
[08:48] <cynixx3> okay. thanks
[08:48] <EriC^^> also try pressing esc and see if you get a boot options menu, and choose usb uefi
[08:48] <ObrienDave> try setting USB to legacy mode
[08:48] <EriC^^> ObrienDave: he has windows installed in uefi mode
[08:53] <D30> hello so im using http://server1/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/ as my installation url in kvm
[08:53] <D30> but seem its not correct
[08:53] <D30> what should be the right path?
[09:00] <CB6> Is there a decent internet monitor like rainmaker for windows?
[09:00] <CB6> Something that sits on the toolbar most likely
[09:03] <Ububegin> when I did , sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre .. my system got java7 update 79.. but I want the latest update 85.. https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/jdk7-openjdk/
[09:03] <Ububegin> how do I do this
[09:04] <Ben64> Ububegin: you don't
[09:04] <CB6> my connection just dropped off lol. Not sure if you guys saw my question about a decent internet monitor that shows being active with up/down activity like Rainmaker to sit in the toolbar or on the desktop kind of like the weather app.
[09:04] <fidel_> Ububegin: if you are using ubuntu - you can use what is in your package-managent - not what the arch is offering ;)
[09:05] <nash> hello
[09:06] <Ububegin> I mean is there anyway to update to the latest java 7.. It is a company policy (some security vulnerability shit)
[09:07] <Ben64> !latest | Ububegin
[09:07] <fidel_> Ububegin: there might be a way using a custom ppa which might provide openjdp packages - but afaik this is not supported inhere
[09:07] <Ububegin> fidel_: Ok I will google for openjdk custom ppa..
[09:08] <OerHeks> webupd8 ppa i think
[09:08] <OerHeks> !java
[09:12] <bhagwan> hello om
[09:12] <om> hi bhagwan
[09:12] <om> i got you
[09:12] <bhagwan> also me
[09:13] <om> mi tulla mazha ip deto ssh connect hotay ka te paha bar
[09:13] <k1l> bhagwan: om, this channel is not for backbox support and is english only. please see where backbox offers support.
[09:14] <bhagwan> i thing we can create our own channel, so way u did not create ?
[09:14] <D30> weird i dont have  installer-amd64 in /ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/
[09:14] <bhagwan> om are you online ?
[09:14] <D30> idea anybody?
[09:14] <om> yes
[09:15] <bhagwan> so you should create new channel
[09:15] <fidel_> bhagwan: om i guess you dont know there is /query for private talks ;)
[09:16] <om> what kind of query friend
[09:16] <om> ok bhagwan tell me what is your problem
[09:16] <bhagwan> i can open xml file of wikipedia sai
[09:17] <om> what
[09:17] <bhagwan> only html file open but in html only linking no any contain
[09:18] <om> ok
[09:18] <om> for persing xml file u have to use xmlperser in python
[09:19] <om> in c programing there is libcurl library for persing xmlfile
[09:19] <om> dont download the html file
[09:19] <bhagwan> but firstly xml file cant open
[09:20] <om> can i see your program
[09:20] <bhagwan> dusry tab var ya
[09:20] <bhagwan> yes wait
[09:23] <x4w31> bhagwan:  where u from? :P
[09:23] <bhagwan> Maharashtra
[09:24] <bhagwan> in India
[09:24] <gotcha> hey guys, im running an ubuntu server VM to run a webserver, couple of other services like Redman etc.. is it best to keep this on an ubuntu server or an ubuntu desktop can handle all that just fine?
[09:24] <bhagwan> and you ?
[09:25] <gotcha> i assume ubuntu server uses less resources then ubuntu desktop?
[09:25] <sai> hi
[09:25] <bhagwan> hello sai
[09:26] <sai> how r u
[09:27] <fidel_> gotcha: there is no problem keeping that on a server. May i ask wehy you are asking?
[09:28] <fidel_> gotcha: at the end the diff between server and desktop should be the default package selection ...so ...
[09:29] <gotcha> fidel_, im asking because im installing a new ubuntu installation to clean up the old server. cuz i have a lot of junk all over the place
[09:29] <gotcha> so wanted to make a new installation, transfer only what i need and then completely delete the old one
[09:29] <Amoz> gotcha, if you don't see any use for the desktop features at the new install, go with ubuntu-server.
[09:29] <fidel_> gotcha: you can use whatever you want to run those services - using a "server" install might give you a smaller footprint - as less default packages-  less running default services
[09:29] <fidel_> thats the diff
[09:32] <gotcha> so a graphical interface doesnt really make that much difference from running it from terminal
[09:34] <bhagwan> thanks fidel
[09:35] <sai> hi fidel
[09:35] <Amoz> gotcha, for server features ? no. Those are separate things. You can even start out with ubuntu-server, and then just install the ubuntu-desktop package if you want to add the GUI later.
[09:36] <fidel_> gotcha: if its about setting up a server - use the server image. if you need a desktop-like environment - either use the desktop image - or the server image and manually install the additional packages you might need
[09:36] <Amoz> gotcha, but are you still running it in a VM?
[09:38] <fidel_> gotcha: as mentioned above - the difference between those images is only what packages are pre-selected/getting installed by default
[09:39] <gotcha> Amoz, yes
[09:39] <CB6> Do you guys use conky at all?
[09:39] <gotcha> fidel_, makes sense i guess
[09:39] <Amoz> gotcha, and what's the host OS?
[09:39] <gotcha> Windows
[09:40] <fidel_> CB6: yes - i.a. to display the state of the system, raid etc
[09:40] <Amoz> gotcha, i see. Well if you don't need the GUI, go with the server, less resources required that way.
[09:42] <gotcha> thank you
[09:43] <k1l> CB6: so you mean "rainmeter" and not rainmaker? i thought you were talking about a weather app
[09:43] <k1l> CB6: but conky is the way to go then
[09:43] <CB6> haha yes
[09:49] <CB6> Is there a conky package that's super popular? There's like unity conky and seemingly a lot of variations. Stable, asesthetically pleasing and secure being main considerations.
[09:50] <k1l> CB6: install conky. then you need to make or "get" a config file that makes conky look like you want
[09:51] <k1l> CB6: search the "this is my fancy conky desktop" websites or threads to get that config files from others
[09:53] <ArnC> Hi everybody, is there any plan to upgrade the salt-stack packages of the ubuntu-server 14.04 repos to the latest stable? (2014.7.6)
[09:54] <sai> hi om
[09:54] <CB6> k
[09:55] <k1l> !sru | ArnC
[09:55] <OerHeks> CB6, old tread, 2000+ pages about conky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2313
[09:55] <ArnC> thx k1l
[09:55] <OerHeks> awesome collection
[09:55] <CB6> lol
[09:55] <CB6> wow
[09:56] <wileee> more conkies than you can even try
[09:56] <OerHeks> but now there is conky manager too http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/conky-manager-gui-for-managing-conky.html
[09:56] <OerHeks> this is the 1st thing i learned on ubuntu, conky script and cronjobs
[09:59] <CB6> As someone from the web scripting world the whole cron job to me means running web scripts at random intervals
[10:00] <khax> :O
[10:01] <CB6> Kind of shocked at how similar CSS is to bash
[10:04] <fleetfox> any ideas on how to debug lack of hw acceleration in chromium?
[10:07] <x4w3> (12:00:25 :P.M.) tepper.freenode.net: (notice) Server Terminating. Received SIGTERM??
[10:07] <x4w3> :)
[10:10] <OerHeks> x4w3, just a netsplit
[10:11] <x4w3> OerHeks:  oki :P
[10:13] <x4w3>  grep -e "16/07/2015" server.log --> grep: line too long; what's the problem?
[10:14] <x4w3> there isn't a binary file, only that it has big size.....
[10:15] <EriC^^> clear
[10:15] <EriC^^> clear
[10:15] <EriC^^> oops.. wrong window
[10:15] <sai> how to bypass proxy using python programming if someone know than tell me
[10:16] <OerHeks> x4w3, try grep -r "16/07/2015" server.log
[10:16] <x4w3> ...[soporte@Web1 log]$  grep -noR "16/07/2015" server.log > /home/soporte/list_grep.txt
[10:16] <x4w3> grep: line too long --> nothing
[10:17] <x4w3> oks thank...let me
[10:17] <EriC^^> x4w3: try with awk maybe
[10:17] <x4w3> oks
[10:17] <OerHeks> That might be more usefull indeed
[10:17] <x4w3> grep -r "16/07/2015" server.log --> grep: line too long
[10:17] <pddstudio> Hello
[10:18] <EriC^^> x4w3: try awk '/16\/07\/2015/' server.log
[10:20] <x4w3> EriC: awk '/16\/07\/2015/' server.log --> searching....thank u
[10:20] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:27] <ner_> hello
[10:27] <ner_> how can i play cod: call of duty black 2 ops on ubuntu 12.04?
[10:29] <Python_Enthusias> #python3
[10:29] <hazardous> hi, does anyone know if there is simple way to force all traffic by one specific user through a specific network interface?
[10:34] <jimw> I'm looking for a package called 'libgnucrypto-java', which appears to have been removed from the repositories. I'd be happy with just an old .deb of it, but googling around I can't find one. Anyone suggest a better place to look?
[10:35] <gry> packages.ubuntu.com select 'all' in dropdown
[10:36] <jimw> gry: no results :-9
[10:36] <jimw> s/9/(/
[10:39] <x4w3> wow, server.log has 450mb of plain text!! oh my god!! vim hang itslef ) after awk it....
[10:39] <x4w3> with ls -lh say 450mb and with du -h 32mb what's the probloem?
[10:39] <gry> jimw: I ... don't know where to check.
[10:39] <x4w3> i close #debian-es, anybody reply never!
[10:41] <jimw> gry: A kind person has just msgd me the answer:
[10:41] <Ben64> jimw: that package got removed from debian over 5 years ago because of security issues, you probably shouldn't run it
[10:41] <jimw> http://www.filewatcher.com/m/libgnucrypto-java_2.0.1-4ubuntu1_all.deb.634152-0.html, in case anyone else cares
[10:41] <jimw> Ben64: Yeah, it's nasty I know
[10:44] <TJ-> jimw: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgnucrypto-java/
[10:46] <TJ-> jimw: also current dev status: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgnucrypto-java
[10:46] <Neo9> how to set a umask value for a user in a way creation of file& folder both should get  750 permissions.
[10:48] <Guest35438> Hi how do I remove ubuntu completely and install windows 10?
[10:48] <x4w3> what is the best compression method? gz, tar or zip?
[10:48] <jimw> TJ-: ta
[10:48] <x4w3> for plain text (server.log 450Mb).
[10:49] <Guest35438> how do I remove ubuntu and install windows 10?
[10:49] <Ben64> x4w3: there is no best, figure out which one suits your needs
[10:49] <Ben64> Guest35438: ask in ##windows
[10:50] <x4w3> Ben64: thank u i test it, zip beacuse i download it to split it in windows.
[10:50] <Ben64> x4w3: not sure what that means but ok
[10:52] <x4w3> Ben64:  thank u :) don't worry my spanish sometimes fly alone :)
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:01] <user11223321242> :adac ...
[11:23] <R0b0t1> Hi so uh
[11:24] <R0b0t1> does anybody have any references w.r.t. nokia lumia 1020s running ubuntu?
[11:31] <SilverBack> helo, i am new here
[11:31] <hyesjadsaadf> are there anywhere in ubuntu community where we can express our gratitude for ubuntu
[11:31] <bazhang> ubuntuforums testimonials hyesjadsaadf
[11:32] <hyesjadsaadf> there should be ubuntu meetings or something
[11:32] <hyesjadsaadf> cheers
[11:32] <bazhang> np
[11:44] <CyberJacob> Afternoon
[11:44] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[11:45] <mahdi_ja> tonight i install last ubuntu kernel update and after restart system my wine not work
[11:45] <Neo9_> how to set a umask value for a user in a way creation of file& folder both should get  750 permissions
[11:45] <CyberJacob> I've got an HP Pavilion with a Broadcom BCM43142 Wi-Fi chipset that loses it's adapter every time the laptop goes through sleep/hybernation
[11:45] <mahdi_ja> any body get this problem and how i can solve it
[11:47] <Secret-Fire> any way to keybind two actions to one key?
[11:47] <CyberJacob> It's currently using the wl driver, is that the right one?
[11:49] <xmurphy> Secret-Fire: bind the key to a script that executes the actions
[11:50] <Secret-Fire> i can try
[11:53] <user> 1
[11:59] <sl1rpy> my wife is trying to do updates on her laptop and its complaining about insignficant space.  we have done everything the dialog suggested and its still giving the error.
[12:02] <sl1rpy> anyone have any ideas about this error?
[12:04] <mcphail> sl1rpy: I presume you mean insufficient space? If not, please pastebin the exact error
[12:05] <sl1rpy> mcphail, yes... that one lol...
[12:05] <mcphail> sl1rpy: :) - please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[12:09] <fidel_> sl1rpy: got "df -h" running?
[12:11] <sl1rpy> fidel_, yes... pastebin is on a dif computer so im trying to figure out how to post link onto irc
[12:12] <fidel_> you could scp the url in a file from comp1 to comp2 (which has irc running)
[12:12] <fidel_> ugly way - but should be quick (&dirty) ;)
[12:12] <x4w3> my favourite sw is scp or ssh :)
[12:12] <x4w3> and expect in to sftp :)
[12:13] <mcphail> sl1rpy: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:13] <sl1rpy_> or i could do this... lol
[12:13] <sl1rpy_> http://pastebin.com/DxWqz7HN
[12:13] <sl1rpy_> its complaining about the /boot
[12:15] <mcphail> sl1rpy: yes - having a /boot partition is a bad idea. If you do have one, you need to make it large
[12:15] <mcphail> sl1rpy: you'll need to clear some space in /boot to complete the upgrade
[12:16] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, i did the auto setup... so i thought it would just put everything under / and do one partititon?
[12:16] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: that's what it should do. Don't know if there are edge cases?
[12:16] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: is this real Ubuntu or a derivative?
[12:17] <sl1rpy_> ubuntu 15.04 64 bit...
[12:17] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: having a /boot partition that small is going to be a recurrent problem
[12:18] <jam__> hi all, I asked this question in the #lubuntu channel but didn't get any reply so I try here
[12:18] <uViViD> how do i check installed 3d drivers....running linux on android
[12:18] <jam__> I want a minimal Ubuntu system (no desktop) but the mini.iso don't let me install using wifi
[12:19] <jam__>  is there any minimal CD images available?
[12:21] <pragomer1> how to use usb tethering with android and ubuntu 14.04 ? when activating usb tethering on my android device, ubuntu shows a 2nd wired connection named "usb0" (like eth0)... but if config show for usb0 e.g. 192.168.54.68..... my network on pc has 192.168.0.2 e.g.
[12:21] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, huh... looked at gparted on both my laptops and it shows the /boot partition seperate from the encrypted partitions.  is there something that prohibits /boot from working properly if lvm encryption is enabled?
[12:21] <TJ-> Is duckduckgo timing out for anyone other than me?
[12:22] <alex88> hi guys, is there a way to open a terminal during an install from a minimal cd image?
[12:22] <Yotson> TJ-, works fine here.
[12:22] <didar> alex88, Ctrl+Alt+F2 ??
[12:22] <ioria> duck seems ok
[12:23] <alex88> didar: love you!
[12:23] <TJ-> Hmm... I'm hitting "ec2-176-34-155-20.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com" and it's timing out ... no HTTP responses
[12:23] <didar> alex88, no problem :)
[12:23] <jam__> I guess not : (  http://askubuntu.com/questions/203122/how-do-i-do-a-minimal-install-without-an-internet-connection
[12:23] <alex88> trying to recover some data from an old hard disk ;S
[12:24] <jam__> ..but that is a 3 years old answer
[12:24] <didar> alex88, you can also try out Ctlr+Alt+Fn | n >= 2, n < 6
[12:25] <alex88> didar: not a problem, that works fine!
[12:25] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, basically is it possible to have encrypted volume with the /boot mounted inside the encrypted volume?
[12:25] <jdo_dk> Hello, i know this is not "normal" ubuntu issue, but can anyone help my "sort" mailq to tell which domain has most mails in queue ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11959271/
[12:26] <didar> alex88, http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage
[12:26] <didar> ... might be helpful
[12:26] <didar> Had used it a few years ago
[12:26] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: aah - don't know about that
[12:27] <TJ-> All 8 IPs for duckduckgo.com returned via round-robin looup are unresponsive for HTTP (port 80) and HTTPS (port 443) ... could someone show me a "pastebin <(dig +short duckduckgo.com)" so I can set up some temporary local host overrides?
[12:27] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, well im assuming if it was possible, ubuntu auto partitioning would have done it that way so i wouldnt run into this problem.
[12:28] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: probably :)
[12:28] <alex88> didar: for sure! now lets see if i can mount a remote samba folder
[12:28] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: If it autocreates a boot partition which is too small, it might be worth filing a bug
[12:28] <didar> :o good luck
[12:29] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, i was kinda wondering if there could be a feature that you can delete old kernels once detected that there isnt enough space
[12:30] <TJ-> sl1rpy: Yes, it is possible
[12:30] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: you can apt-get autoremove to remove old kernels, but the updater isn't intelligent enough to do that automatically.
[12:30] <alex88> didar: thanks ;) seems it's there "Network tools (Samba, NFS, ping, nslookup, ...): to backup your data across the network" ;)
[12:30] <didar> cool
[12:30] <TJ-> sl1rpy: As in, LUKS/dm-crypt for the /boot/ file-system
[12:30] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: there are people on here all the time who have run into that problem
[12:31] <TJ-> sl1rpy: After creating the encrypted /boot/ file-system, make sure to add to "/etc/default/grub" the config "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y"
[12:31] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, ah... that did it.  that should be in the dialog for this error than apt-get clean
[12:32] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: doesn't always work, iirc, if the update leaves things particularly broken
[12:32] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, should this be a feature request or a bug request?
[12:32] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: bug
[12:33] <ioria> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11959308/
[12:33] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: (don't know which package, though)
[12:34] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, a combination of software updater and grub?
[12:34] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, oh and the auto setup of encrypted volumes
[12:34] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: I think the bug itself is with the installer: if it automatically creates a partition which is too small it is a bug
[12:35] <TJ-> ioria: thanks... it seems there's a problem on the return-route to me from the AWS Ireland data-center... I have those same set of IPs both locally and in the London data-center... my local HTTP/HTTPS connections time out, but I can ping the hosts - I wonder if someone's messed up a MITM proxy?
[12:35] <mcphail> sl1rpy_: at the very least, it should produce a warning that /boot is a bit small
[12:36] <ioria> TJ-  you're the pro :þ
[12:36] <MBPRO> lolz
[12:36] <sl1rpy_> mcphail, or take you to a screen after you select "use whole disk, encrypt, lvm" to where you can choose the size for /boot
[12:37] <TJ-> ^ _
[12:37] <TJ-> @ @
[12:39] <sl1rpy> all i know is Java and a little bit of C++... if i knew more i would contribute by working on the installer iso :-P
[12:42] <TJ-> sl1rpy: You really don't want to go near the installer! It has so many years of workarounds for workarounds for workarounds that even the people that maintain it get lost!
[12:45] <sl1rpy> TJ-, oh... lol.
[12:46] <sl1rpy> anyhow.... the dialog should say to use apt-get autoremove instead of apt-get clean to resolve the issue.... and another, make the /boot partition bigger.
[12:48] <eein> hello. how do you install a deb package at the ubuntu server installer? I tried to tty the basic kernel doesn't have the dpkg package yet
[12:49] <eein> i have a non-free nic driver i need to install. and the only option is install from cd but i have it copied to a flash drive and the ubuntu install is cd
[12:50] <sl1rpy> eh, im stuck on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs and trying to find a link that actually lets me post a bug
[12:52] <d8bhatta> Hell Guys
[12:52] <d8bhatta> I am trying to install VM player in ubuntu  and use https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_player/6_0
[12:52] <d8bhatta> to download
[12:52] <d8bhatta> but the problem is when I download it,its in exe version
[12:53] <d8bhatta> It looks like it needs to be in .bundle
[12:53] <sl1rpy> mcphail, isnt the package for the installer ubiquity or something like that?
[12:53] <d8bhatta> Can somebody suggest me
[12:54] <mcphail> sl1rpy: I don't know, to be honest
[12:54] <mcphail> sl1rpy: sounds reasonable, though
[12:57] <d8bhatta> I think I have got it now..thanks
[12:58] <sl1rpy> mcphail, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1479344
[13:01] <dRistzle> guys.i just installed ubuntu 14.04
[13:01] <dRistzle> and my wireless doesnt seem to work
[13:01] <dRistzle> but the ethernet connection is fine
[13:02] <k1l_> dRistzle: what is your wifi chip? lspci will tell
[13:04] <dRistzle> The terminal says Ispci is not a command
[13:04] <k1l_> lspci its a L at the start
[13:04] <synapse> Has anyone here used NodeJS to run a http server on ubuntu?
[13:04] <mcphail> sl1rpy: thanks
[13:05] <patito> hi guys .. During the boot ubuntu cannot find my usb/ethernet device
[13:05] <k1l_> synapse: should we wait for all users to say yes and no or will you start to ask the real question? :)
[13:05] <synapse> k1l_ Well if no one has experience with it they wouldn't know how to solve the problem :)
[13:05] <dRistzle> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP USB xHCI HC (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Lynx Point-LP HECI #0 (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporati
[13:06] <OerHeks> synapse, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:06] <k1l_> synapse: ok, we will never know then
[13:06] <sl1rpy> mcphail, np
[13:06] <k1l_> !paste | dRistzle
[13:06] <synapse> OerHeks ok thank you
[13:07] <dRistzle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11959502/
[13:07] <dRistzle> thats what the terminal states
[13:08] <dRistzle> my wireless networks show
[13:08] <dRistzle> but i cant connect to them
[13:08] <sl1rpy> man i cant WAIT till the ubuntu phones hit the states
[13:10] <k1l_> dRistzle: what gives you "uname -a" you can show the one line in here
[13:11] <dRistzle> k1l_: Linux dRistzle 3.16.0-45-generic #60~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:23 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:12] <k1l_> dRistzle: you could try if the 3.19 lts kernel will solve that
[13:13] <k1l_> dRistzle: install the package: linux-generic-lts-vivid
[13:13] <k1l_> after a restart the kernel 3.19 should be used. maybe that solves it already
[13:13] <artur_> what's up people )
[13:14] <steve-mcbutts> winblows 10 > ubuntu 8
[13:14] <steve-mcbutts> noobs
[13:14] <steve-mcbutts> sorry
[13:16] <mustmodify> I have a list of html files from `find . -name *.htm?` ... what's the right tool to find out which of those files does not include a certain string? (in this case, my Analytics tracking code.)
[13:17] <xrisk> mustmodify: grep should work
[13:17] <artur_> i ha one stupid problem with xubuntu and all family of ubuntu
[13:17] <OerHeks> mr analistic-tracking-code needs a tool to track a string .. humor
[13:17] <TJ-> mustmodify: "find . -name *.htm? -execdir grep -v 'CANT_FIND_THIS' {} \; "
[13:18] <mustmodify> Is execdir a parameter of find ?
[13:18] <mustmodify> Ah, so it is.
[13:19] <TJ-> mustmodify: Yes. it executes the command in the target directory, as opposed to "-exec" which uses the entire relative path.
[13:20] <mustmodify> so I know `grep -v` ... but I'll have to research the string there...
[13:20] <mustmodify> Oh... the string is the analytics code.
[13:20] <mustmodify> duh
[13:20] <mustmodify> and then I assume {} is like -I{}... ie where to put the filename.
[13:21] <artur_> my notebook has wifi button and when i press the button, blue-tooth is turning on
[13:21] <mustmodify> nice.
[13:21] <dRistzle> k1l_:im installing the package
[13:21] <TJ-> mustmodify: find replaces {} with the find filename path
[13:21] <mustmodify> right
[13:22] <mustmodify> I've done something similar with xargs.
[13:22] <dRistzle> k1l_ : installation completed
[13:23] <mustmodify> TJ: but when I do that I get back the contents of the files. I want the filenames.
[13:24] <mustmodify> so I guess I need a conditional
[13:25] <Pici> mustmodify: use the -H switch to grep to print the filenames
[13:25] <mustmodify> though obviously grep has a 'show me the filename' option.
[13:25] <dRistzle> thanks alot guys
[13:26] <mustmodify> yep I just did that, good suggestion.
[13:26] <dRistzle> wifi back up :D
[13:26] <Pici> /36/36
[13:26] <mcphail> mustmodify: have you tried ag (package silversearcher-ag)?
[13:26] <mcphail> mustmodify: can do what you need without messing around with find etc
[13:27] <mustmodify> TJ: Output is a bit of a mess, but I think I can clean it up. Thanks!
[13:27] <mustmodify> mcphail: Actually, someone turned me on to ag recently. Man it's fast.
[13:27] <mcphail> mustmodify: a bit buggy, but it works fairly well
[13:28] <dRistzle> k1l_: thanks alot :D it worked
[13:28] <k1l_> dRistzle: good to hear
[13:28] <mustmodify> mcphail: How would I solve this problem with that, though? I'm looking for files that DO NOT contain something.
[13:28] <mustmodify> Does bash include set subtraction? That would be cool.
[13:29] <mustmodify> Or actually I guess I could use ag from ruby and do set subtraction there. :)
[13:29] <TJ-> mustmodify: You can add options to the grep, if you only want the filenames use "grep -L ..."
[13:29] <mcphail> mustmodify: ag has the "-L" flag as well
[13:30] <EriC^^> mustmodify: find -name "*.." | while read bla; if grep -q "search"; echo $bla; done
[13:30] <mcphail> mustmodify: "Only print filenames that don´t contain matches."
[13:30] <EriC^^> something like that will list all files that don't contain it
[13:30] <TJ-> EriC^^: that's a lot of overahead for just using "grep -L ..." :)
[13:30] <EriC^^> sorry use if ! grep -q "search" $bla; echo $bla; done
[13:30] <EriC^^> TJ-: i'm a motorhead so it comes natural to me :P
[13:31] <EriC^^> j/k..
[13:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: OK, remind me not to let you fit a turbo-charger :)
[13:31] <mcphail> mustmodify: try "ag --html -L pattern"
[13:32] <EriC^^> lol, i was j/k TJ- :p
[13:32] <mustmodify> mcphail: Oh... well, uh... that solves my problem then. Thanks so much! That will save me zoodles of time in the future.
[13:33] <TJ-> mustmodify: this works fine for me:  e.g. "  find /usr/share/doc/ -type f -name '*.html' -execdir grep -L 'DTD' {} \;  "
[13:33] <mcphail> mustmodify: np
[13:34] <EriC^^> TJ-: won't that find everything that includes the search? i thought he wanted the files that dont include it?
[13:34] <mustmodify> TJ: even simpler: `ag UA-6572xxx-1 . -L|grep htm `
[13:34] <mcphail> mustmodify: if you find ag a bit buggy, I have a PPA with some custom patches which fix a few of the errors
[13:45] <DWSR> Hey all, what's the guest session username? I'm trying to enable auto-login in lxdm.
[13:51] <dRistzle> please help me out.My wifi is only remaining connected for a minute or two after which it stops working on ubuntu
[13:52] <dRistzle> and wont work until i restart ubuntu.and will disconnect again after 2 mins
[13:53] <Ackis> is there a way to test out changes to my sudoers file before committing to them?
[13:53] <DWSR> Hey all, what's the guest session username? I'm trying to enable auto-login in lxdm.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> DWSR, open a terminal.  type who
[13:54] <tanathos> or whoami
[13:59] <dRistzle> k1l_: Sorry to bother you.But your solution is'nt working
[13:59] <DWSR> cfhowlett: It's a different variation of guest-r4nd0m every time I login.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> DWSR, exactly.  thus "no name" ...
[14:00] <dRistzle> k1l_: My wifi turns off after 2 minutes of restarting ubuntu.
[14:00] <DWSR> cfhowlett: Yes, but I want to enable auto-login to guest session from LXDM. All the results from searching through mention config files for lightdm or lxdm that don't exist on my system.
[14:01] <OerHeks> dRistzle, known issues with that RTL8723BE http://askubuntu.com/questions/457341/wifi-drops-and-wont-reconnect-until-reboot-14-04-with-rtl8723be and even this solution did not work perfectly http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-trusty-realtek.html
[14:01] <cfhowlett> DWSR, install lxde?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> DWSR, or go whole hog: lubuntu
[14:02] <DWSR> cfhowlett: I have lxde installed (I did a Lubuntu minimal install)
[14:02] <cfhowlett> DWSR, and the guest does NOT have lxde running?
[14:03] <TJ-> EriC^^: delayed reaction but ... "-L, --files-without-match"
[14:03] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh ok, thanks
[14:04] <DWSR> cfhowlett: End goal: User presses power button: Some indeterminate amount of time later, they are presented with a DE that's the guest session. Currently I can manually login to the guest session, but I want to literally have "push button, receive bacon"
[14:04] <DWSR> The guest session has everything running properly.
[14:04] <cheetahw26> how can I force a reinstall of a package and also reinstall all configuration files?
[14:04] <TJ-> Just found out, duckduckgo had blocked my IP ... unblocked now and they have a bug :)
[14:05] <cfhowlett> DWSR, so "kiosk" mode?
[14:05] <DWSR> cfhowlett: Eh, pretty much
[14:05] <cheetahw26> for some reason when I try to install postgresql I keep getting errors, files are missing in the data directory... something must have happened during the install where some files were copied, but not others
[14:06] <OerHeks> cheetahw26, uninstall with the purge option and start over again
[14:06] <cfhowlett> DWSR, do-able but outside my area.  suggest you access the lubuntu or lxde support channels.
[14:06] <DWSR> I wanted to do a minimal Lubuntu install because these are old laptops. These laptops literally have network manager, LXDE, and Chrome installed.
[14:06] <DWSR> Lubuntu support channel's dead.
[14:06] <DWSR> Where's the lxde support channel? #lxde?
[14:07] <cheetahw26> apt-get remove postgresql, then apt-get purge postgresql ?
[14:07] <cfhowlett> DWSR, I believe so.  http://lxde.org/irc/
[14:07] <fontis> Hmm.. I can't seem to decide between elementary and ubuntu gnome :<
[14:07] <fontis> The suspense is killing me
[14:07] <cfhowlett> fontis, install virtualbox.  install both.  test.  choose.
[14:08] <OerHeks> cheetahw26, apt-get remove --purge postgresql
[14:08] <DWSR> cfhowlett: Irony being that mibbit is banned on freenode. Thanks
[14:08] <cfhowlett> DWSR, https://github.com/MobilityLab/TransitScreen/wiki/Lubuntu-kiosk-setup-procedures
[14:09] <cheetahw26> thanks... think I need to remove all of the others too, i.e. client, client-common, common, etc?
[14:09] <OerHeks> cheetahw26, i would just apt-get install --reinstall , not sure why you think files are missing
[14:09] <cheetahw26> error shows not a vaild directory PG_VERSION is missing...
[14:11] <cheetahw26> thanks... remove --purge finally was able to get rid of them completely from dpkg, reinstalling now
[14:26] <dididodo> hi... is there something like a single-click mute/unmute for audio output?
[14:27] <reisio> some volume applet icons can do that
[14:27] <cfhowlett> dididodo, laptop
[14:27] <cfhowlett> ?
[14:28] <dididodo> reisio, a button i n the gnome panel would be perfect ... single click mute and unmute to the old volume setting
[14:30] <reisio> also you can make your own easily enough
[14:30] <reisio> mapped to a pavucontrol toggle command or something
[14:30]  * reisio would just use a keyboard shortcut at that point, though
[14:31] <dididodo> reisio.. ok, thats an alternative, you are right
[14:32] <dididodo> i'll check out pavucontrol, thx
[14:34] <eein> how can i find the name of a network interface to set as active?
[14:34] <eein> i think the proprietary driver loaded
[14:39] <TJ-> eein: "ip link show"
[14:41] <eein> TJ it hasn't been made active
[14:41] <eein> so it doesnt show there. lshw -class network shows the NICs but provides no logical name and shows as UNCLAIMED
[14:42] <eein> i am trying to make it active
[14:42] <eein> but i need the logical name to edit the network config
[14:43] <eein> i guess unclaimed means no dirver?
[14:44] <TJ-> eein: Then there is no interface, just a hardware device with no kernel module driver
[14:46] <eein> maybe i grabbed the wrong package. what is 14.04 trusty? (why use cutsie names just call it by number)
[14:46] <eein> i don't see trusty
[14:46] <eein> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-bnx2
[14:46] <DWSR> eein: Code names are very useful as opposed to saying fourteen point oh four.
[14:47] <DWSR> eein: Obviously typing the numbers is shorter, but saying the name verbally is shorter.
[14:47] <DWSR> Also, more memorable.
[14:47] <eein> ok, thats an opinion. i find it annoying to remember every distros names
[14:47] <eein> you could just say 14 lts
[14:48] <DWSR> I have lightdm logging my Lubuntu minimal install into a guest session by default. I edited failsafe.conf to stop Plymouth from waiting for the network to be up before booting, however now NetworkManager isn't starting by default. Is there a better way to do this?
[14:48] <DWSR> eein: Sure, which works for the distinction between 14 series releses, but what about 15.04, 15.10?
[14:49] <eein> well isnt .04 stable and .10 bleeding
[14:49] <DWSR> Eventually it's stable.
[14:49] <eein> .04 are eventually stable?
[14:50] <eein> anyway that was decided by people smarter than me. but how would i get a 14.04 package for this https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-bnx2
[14:51] <OerHeks> !bcm
[14:53] <eein> OerHeks, those are for wireless drivers, mine is a wired 5716
[14:54] <OerHeks> eein, i see. netxtreme was removed from linux-firmware some time ago http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/base/linux-firmware
[14:55] <eein> so where does that leave me? OerHeks
[15:00] <eein> I have the same server running 14.04 with a working driver. Can I move the associated files to the non working server?  lshw on the working shows driver=bnx2
[15:00] <Freeder> Hi, I'm thinking about moving my 4xRAID mdadm setup from one machine to another- what do I need to be mindful of, so that I don't lose my data on those disks?
[15:00] <eein> how can I match that to a deb
[15:00] <BOY_slim> hi
[15:01] <BOY_slim> I am first time here
[15:01] <TJ-> eein: what is the PCI device ID (" lspci -nn ")
[15:01] <BOY_slim> I am from Italy
[15:02] <BOY_slim> Is there anyone from Italy ?
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> !it | BOY_slim
[15:02] <mistralo1> hi
[15:02] <mistralo1> I have some problem where a program cannot find a shared lib.
[15:03] <eein> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5716 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:163b] (rev 20)
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> mistralo1: can you explain to channel whats happening exactly
[15:03] <mistralo1> If i add it to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH the program works. But that isn't suitable. but when I add it to the ld.so.conf it doesn't work (even after running ldconfig)
[15:03] <mistralo1> Its not a suitable solution because the program is suid and LD_LIBRARY_PATH wont be accepted
[15:04] <TJ-> eein: the kernel has a driver built-in for that "bnx2" so something is preventing it being loaded. Can you "pastebinit <( /var/log/dmesg)"
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> mistralo1: wich program are you talking about
[15:05] <mistralo1> lotuspsychje: its a custom program. Which is using pango and the pango lib fails to load which is in an odd place /usr/lib64/pango/1.8.0/modules/
[15:05] <shanker> hi friends ia ma having a issue with playonlinux PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries.
[15:05] <shanker> You might encounter problem with your games
[15:05] <LUCAS-ARG1> hello, i have ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop with a sshd ive installe root into the ssd part of the disk and home in hdd, its ok to have that setup? i did not wanted to go with bcache configuration setup
[15:05] <eein> TJ that is the working server, I am trying to get a server of the same model up that does not have the driver. I found and sneakernetted the driver to the working system at some time but cannot find the package anymore and want to copy over the package from the working to the non working
[15:06] <mistralo1> just not sure why it wont work when added to ld.so.conf. Even when looking in the output of strace it won't scan that dir for the shared lib
[15:06] <TJ-> eein: If the server you are targeting is Ubuntu, with 14.04, then it has the bnx2 driver and supporting firmware installed as part of the kernel packages
[15:06] <quang> hi
[15:06] <eein> TJ when I install, no NICs are found
[15:06] <quang> something wierd
[15:06] <shanker> issue-PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL libraries.
[15:06] <shanker> You might encounter problem with your games
[15:07] <quang> my desktop has nothing on it
[15:07] <quang> just my background
[15:07] <quang> and a mouse cursor
[15:07] <eein> if it were in the kernel wouldnt it load it from the CD?
[15:07] <quang> wtf
[15:07] <quang> what happeend
[15:07] <eein> quang, you need to restart the window manager
[15:07] <quang> how?
[15:07] <mistralo1> lotuspsychje: any ideas?
[15:07] <quang> i did a lot of things
[15:07] <LUCAS-ARG1> hey guys if i have an sshd and install the system in the ssd part of the disk and use the rest as home instead of using bache its ok?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> mist: no sorry
[15:08] <TJ-> eein: try "modprobe bnx2" and then check kern.log
[15:08] <quang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[15:08] <quang> i did that
[15:08] <quang> but it didnt work
[15:08] <quang> are u talkin about that?  or to do something else?
[15:09] <TJ-> LUCAS-ARG1: most integrated sshd's don't let you address the flash cache separately
[15:11] <LUCAS-ARG1> TJ-: i was able to do it... im not sure if its ok... "/" is installed there and everything is running ok... just dont know if its ok to do so
[15:11] <LUCAS-ARG1> !ssd
[15:12] <TJ-> LUCAS-ARG1: You wrote "sshd" - was that a mis-type. Do you mean the PC has a HDD and a SSD and you want to use bcache on the SSD? In which case, yes, that's a good combo
[15:13] <LUCAS-ARG1> TJ-: well its a disk with 32gb of ssd, just 1 disk... but i see it as a separate disk on gparted so i was able to install "/" ok the ssd part and "home" in the regular part of the disk...
[15:14] <eein> TJ-, Jul 29 11:13:33 bion kernel: [ 5518.904608] bnx2x: Broadcom NetXtreme II 5771x/578xx 10/20-Gigabit Ethernet Driver bnx2x 1.78.17-0 (2013/04/11)
[15:14] <Guest93521> Hello
[15:14] <eein> trying to find bnx2x 1.78.17-0....
[15:14] <TJ-> eein: So the driver had loaded - you should see further messages showing the PHYs found
[15:15] <eein> TJ-, that is from the working server
[15:15] <TJ-> eein: that's not helping is it? We're not trying to fix an issue on the good server!
[15:15] <eein> TJ-, i am trying to locate the driver package for the non working server which doesn't have a driver
[15:16] <TJ-> eein: I told you - the driver is *part of the standard kernel packakes*
[15:17] <TJ-> eein: "dpkg -S bnx2.ko" ==> "linux-image-extra-3.13.0-58-generic: /lib/modules/3.13.0-58-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnx2.ko"
[15:18] <R0b0t1> does anybody have any references w.r.t. nokia lumia 1020s running ubuntu?
[15:20] <reisio> think -touch keeps a list, R0b0t1
[15:20] <TJ-> eein: if that driver is missing I'm not convinced the server has Ubuntu on it; it could be Debian
[15:20] <k1l_> R0b0t1: most of that devices dont load other OSs becuase of locked bootloaders. and since there are no linux drivers (like for android devices) its a extra burden
[15:21] <k1l_> but yes, #ubuntu-touch is the channel with the specialists
[15:22] <R0b0t1> k1l_, often the bootloader is locked but will load most OSes you put onto it, per android phones. But seeing as it was a windows phone device I was wondering how they managed to load any alternative OS at all.
[15:22] <daftykins> phones are a bit off topic :)
[15:23] <R0b0t1> so is pedantry ;)
[15:23] <daftykins> no, we have channel rules
[15:23] <daftykins> there's another channel for ubuntu phone stuff
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> R0b0t1: try the #ubuntu-touch channel and the XDA forum for existing projects
[15:25] <eein> TJ-, I just installed 14.04 I have the CD. when I go through the install no NIC is detected
[15:26] <eein> I show the bnx2x in the kern.log on both servers but the one that isnt working shows UNCLAIMED
[15:27] <eein> it also doesn't explain why if it is in the kernel that the installer wouldnt find the NIC
[15:29] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960220/ am I missing anything in my samba conf that would cause me not to see it?
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> CB6: did you try the #samba channel?
[15:29] <ioria> eein ubuntu server installer or mini.iso ?
[15:29] <TJ-> eein: can you grab the output of dmesg from the bad server and pastebin please?
[15:30] <CB6> didn't knw there was one
[15:30] <TJ-> eein: The BNX2 driver is in the "linux-image-extra-<kernel-version>" package, and the firmware (if required) is in "linux-firmware"
[15:32] <ioria> C86 i think you have no shares
[15:32] <CB6> the GUI has shares specified but perhaps the conf file needs a change also?
[15:33] <CB6> Like I have right clicked and selected share options. Both computers are on the same workgroup so I know that is right
[15:33]  * eein flips table gently
[15:33] <ioria> C86 i never used the gui for that, sorry
[15:33] <eein> idk whats wrong I popped the disc in a third r210 and it found the NIC
[15:34] <CB6> when you do smbtree does it typically show beyond samba running the folder shares?
[15:34] <eein> something must be wrong with the hardware on the second r210. I'll double check BIOS but I believe it is all correct and there is not configuration available for NIC
[15:34] <daftykins> eein: module isn't loaded by the sounds, if a NIC is unclaimed
[15:34] <CB6> I just want to share some basic folders /home/user/videos etc
[15:35] <CB6> Teamviewer for some reason is capped at 120KB lol so slow
[15:35] <eein> daftykins, yeah but something must be wrong before then because the installer CD finds NIC on other identical servers just not this one
[15:35] <CB6> I selected LAN in options but it made no difference. I should be seeing like wireless N transfer rates
[15:36] <daftykins> eein: maybe it only picks one for primary and doesn't set them all up
[15:37] <Raulwynn> How may I setup my nvidia videocard to work with gaming? Is there a GPU monitor available?
[15:37] <CB6> conky you mean?
[15:38] <rebs> raul, use the nvidia propriettary drivers
[15:38] <CB6> Conky hasa GPU monitor
[15:38] <mcphail> Raulwynn: not sure what you mean by a GPU monitor, but nvidia-settings will allow you to look at temperatures etc if you install the proprietary drivers
[15:38] <CB6> more for general desktop stuff from I could see
[15:39] <pl> Hi, I need a little favor. Can anybody using Chromium on Ubuntu 15.04 try this command: ldd /usr/lib/chromium/chromium | grep srtp
[15:39] <pl> and let me know the output?
[15:39] <DWSR> Anyone know why, on a Lubuntu install, Network Manager only comes up a couple minutes after I boot to the desktop environment?
[15:39] <Raulwynn> rebs: Yes, I am but I'm watching my gpu while gaming and the driver won't use more than 50% gpu and the game is studdering pretty bad.
[15:39] <Raulwynn> I'm using nvidia drivers.
[15:40] <Dumle29> If I want to add a custom URL handler, how would I go about doing this? Running ubuntu gnome 15.04
[15:40] <mcphail> Raulwynn: are you sure the performance is GPU bound?
[15:40] <Raulwynn> mcphail: How would I tell?
[15:40] <CB6> Samba channel is a graveyard lol
[15:40] <Raulwynn> i'm using a watch nvidia-smi command
[15:40] <CB6> nobody chatting in there but tons of people in the room
[15:41] <mcphail> Raulwynn: you'd need to mointor _everything_ (CPU, GPU, disks, network) and see where the bottleneck appears. Probably not on-topic for this channel though
[15:41] <Dumle29> Specifically I'd want steam://advertise/<id> perform the command: steam steam://advertise/<id>
[15:42] <Raulwynn> mcphail: I figured as this would be a programming/program issue on Ubuntu, it would be on topic, but that's cool. Where should I go?
[15:42] <pl> I'm trying to help sorting out a but. The output of that command would help me. Anybody willing to help?
[15:42] <pl> ldd /usr/lib/chromium/chromium | grep srtp
[15:42] <mcphail> Raulwynn: also, make sure you are on the latest proprietary drivers. What version are you using?
[15:42] <compdoc> CB6, which samba gui do you use? the gnome one?
[15:42] <TJ-> eein: dmesg should show if there's some issue configuring the device... my guess is some kind of PCI BAR mapping issue
[15:43] <Raulwynn> mcphail: 304.125
[15:43] <mcphail> Raulwynn: and what game? Those drivers are too old for things like Witcher2 etc
[15:43] <Kartagis> I need help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/648663/any-way-to-recover-my-3tb-usb-hdd
[15:43] <Raulwynn> That was suggested as best stable driver for GTX 6xx . Bioshock Infinite.
[15:44] <Kartagis> someone has 100 points with their name on it
[15:44] <Raulwynn> Where can I review the drivers for which videocards?
[15:44] <mcphail> Raulwynn: 304 is stable, but not performant
[15:44] <Raulwynn> mcphail: That was not explained to me, where can I find this information?
[15:45] <OerHeks> Kartagis, it is not broken man !
[15:45] <mcphail> Raulwynn: gaming on Ubuntu is still fairly niche, so there isn't a big repository of information. Often useful to keep up with the Steam Forums and Phoronix.com
[15:45] <OerHeks> Kartagis, you need fuse for that exfat >> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/451364/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:46] <Kartagis> what is not broken?
[15:46] <mcphail> Raulwynn: the 304 drivers are not suitable for many modern games
[15:46] <pl> Nobody using chromium?
[15:46] <mcphail> Raulwynn: nvidia have a forum with linux information as well
[15:46] <Raulwynn> mcphail: Okay. thanks
[15:47] <Raulwynn> I just was told to use this driver. haha
[15:47] <mcphail> Raulwynn: the "unsupported" way to do things is to install the xorg edgers PPA and use the latest drivers on there. Of course, PPAs can be unstable and can break system upgrades
[15:48] <CB6> compdoc the default GUI for 14 desktop 64 bit Ubuntu
[15:48] <CB6> I'm actually not sure if it's "Unity" or "Gnome"
[15:49] <TJ-> CB6: that'll be Unity
[15:50] <CB6> k
[15:51] <CB6> I have firewall on so I was told to check out GUFW to see if firewall rules are blocking it in the Linux chat.
[15:52] <_SLM_> Is there a good equal to ZoneAlarm on Linux? As in, I like the feature of this firewall that in the beginning it notifies me of everything happening for which I do Allow/Deny/Allow And Remember/Deny And Remember. Thus allowing me to be in control of what happens on my system in every aspect of system processes and internet connections, while not having to manually update blocklists/whilelists
[15:52] <_SLM_> *whitelists
[15:53] <daftykins> _SLM_: not hugely, in what situations do you feel you're running a program and don't want it to talk online?
[15:53] <DWSR> Can I configured networkmanager to allow guest sessions to configure the WiFi?
[15:53] <Kartagis> OerHeks: it says  ERROR: exFAT file system is not found when I try to mount
[15:53] <Fuchs> _SLM_: these so called personal firewalls are a horrible and useless thing, so no, fortunately there isn't
[15:53] <daftykins> i would argue most Windows users doing that are doing so because they're running illegal software and want to prevent it phoning home :)
[15:53] <CB6> evidently I don't have GUFW installed. WHat's the default firewall for Ubuntu that you enable? I know I enabled the firewall
[15:53] <Fuchs> _SLM_: on Linux you tend to have just only the ports open for actual services you provide, and these are configured in a sane way (e.g. ssh with public key auth only and maybe fail2ban)
[15:53] <daftykins> iptables, UFW is a front-end for it
[15:54] <_SLM_> daftykins, I like being in control of my own system, so in all situations. In the beginning I do a lot of ¨does this make sense? yes: allow&rmemeber no: deny&remember
[15:54] <TJ-> Kartagis: The type value shown by fdisk is not guaranteed to be correct, and doesn't need to be
[15:54] <daftykins> _SLM_: it does but i don't personally see the point :)
[15:54] <TJ-> Kartagis: Try "sudo blkid /dev/sdc"
[15:55] <daftykins> _SLM_: to me, if it's running at all, it's a problem
[15:55] <Kartagis> TJ-: no output
[15:55] <TJ-> Kartagis:  sorry, typo, try "sudo blkid /dev/sdc[12]"
[15:56]  * Kartagis is baffled
[15:56] <_SLM_> I prefer being prompted on everything and setting rules to eventually be prompted less
[15:56] <_SLM_> this appoach saved me from some virusses in the past
[15:56] <_SLM_> where my virus scan was being useless
[15:57] <TJ-> Kartagis: it might help if you describe the actual problem
[15:57] <CB6> UFW is the downloadable GUI for IPtables?
[15:57] <Kartagis> TJ-:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/648663/any-way-to-recover-my-3tb-usb-hdd
[15:57] <daftykins> _SLM_: viruses - or preferably, malware in general isn't an issue in Linux land - so i think you ought to retire this approach
[15:57] <mcphail> _SLM_: I have looked at various things a couple of years ago and never found anything equivalent to ZoneAlarm etc. Might have changed recently
[15:57] <_SLM_> I se
[15:57] <_SLM_> see
[15:58] <TJ-> Kardos: That doesn't describe any *problem* - what is actually wrong? You have a 3TB drive that you know should have data on, in one or both partitions, and now you can't access the data?
[15:58] <Kartagis> TJ-: that's right
[15:58] <_SLM_> daftykins, I know virusses are less of an issue, but I also appreciate the part of being in control of whats happening without having to monitor anything manually
[15:59] <TJ-> Kartagis: now we're getting somewhere! ... was the drive in another PC when there was valid data?
[15:59] <Homely_Girl> Hi my 8 yr old has beat me into submission to install Minecraft.....it's a .jar file, can you help me set up an easy access icon for her to use plse? I don't know how to run the jar file , sorry 2 be a nuisance
[15:59] <daftykins> _SLM_: ok, well good luck finding something. don't think it's gonna happen though
[15:59] <_SLM_> ok..
[15:59] <k1l_> _SLM_: that sort of windows firewalls gives you a false impression  of what that actually does.
[15:59] <_SLM_> k1l_ like?
[16:00] <OerHeks> Homely_Girl, easy to do > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[16:00] <daftykins> Homely_Girl: tonnes of guides online, look up your version of ubuntu, it'll show how to install a java version then potentially make a double-click script to launch it.
[16:00] <Kartagis> TJ-: no, at the same PC. I've just tried a few other distros and came back to ubuntu. and it wasn't working
[16:00] <k1l_> _SLM_: so if you dont have a program listening on a port, that port is not "opened"
[16:00] <Kartagis> it was working before that
[16:00] <TJ-> Kartagis: Was the drive always connected over the USB link?
[16:00] <k1l_> _SLM_: "netstat -tulpen" will show you what is running
[16:01] <Kartagis> that's right
[16:01] <Kartagis> TJ-: the only difference is that its usb 3.0 was broken so I had the case replaced
[16:02] <Homely_Girl> daftykins, Just 'cos I know how to run apt-get does not mean I know how to make a script! I choose Linux 'cos Windoz e is dumb!!! lol
[16:02] <mcphail> _SLM_: I don't think you're going to get a solution here today, which is a shame. I can see the utility in having a program like this
[16:02] <Homely_Girl> OerHeks, Thanks for the link.
[16:02] <_SLM_> k1l_, I know how ports work, I am a developer, I´m supposed to. I know zonealarm is basicly a prompt-based whitelist with rules
[16:02] <TJ-> Kartagis: OK, so if "blkid" doesn't identify any file-system data in those partitions it looks as if something, at some point, has wiped part or all of the contents
[16:03] <_SLM_> Maybe I should write it and open source it.. I wonder if it would be difficult to do in linux..
[16:03] <k1l_> _SLM_: ufw, or better gufw, could be something that you want
[16:03] <Kartagis> TJ-: sudo fdisk -l shows the partitions though
[16:04] <Kartagis> sorry
[16:04] <mcphail> _SLM_: there isn't so much need for it, as most of the software we run is OPen Soource and heavily curated. Furthermore, when Snappy is introduced, a lot of the trust issues with applications will be minimised
[16:04] <TJ-> _SLM_: Linux doesn't activate listening services unless specifically requested, and on Desktops in LANs there's no publicly accessible ports unless the gateway is port-mapping (IPv4) or direct-addressing (IPv6). The only benefit would be for *outgoing* connections is that what you want to monitor?
[16:04] <Kartagis> TJ-: the disk is also babbling about GPT and MBR
[16:04] <Homely_Girl> OerHeks, Link did not work :(
[16:05] <AbuDhar> Master Boot Record? :D
[16:05] <Kartagis> aye
[16:05] <kurt_> hı
[16:05] <_SLM_> k1l_ thanks for the suggestion.
[16:05] <mcphail> _SLM_: however, at this point in time I am running more proprietary software on Ubuntu than ever before and I would appreciate a program like ZoneAlarm
[16:05] <_SLM_> TJ- yes, outgoing
[16:06] <daftykins> normal TJ- service will be resumed shortly
[16:06] <daftykins> :)
[16:06] <AbuDhar> GPT is becoming the standard ?
[16:06] <AbuDhar> MBR is only for Win
[16:06] <AbuDhar> ?
[16:06] <Kartagis> I'm not sure
[16:07] <_SLM_> mcphail I think commercial software will find it´s way to linux depending on its own popularity, like linux games. So yeah, not everything is open source and therefor trusted
[16:07] <k1l_> AbuDhar: no, mbr and gpt is not win or linux only
[16:07] <daftykins> and now back to your regular TJ- programming :)
[16:07] <mcphail> _SLM_: snappy will help with this, though
[16:08] <Kartagis> TJ-: oh, there is another difference. laptop's fs was reiserfs and the disk is reiserfs as well
[16:08] <TJ-> Kartagis: showing the partition layout (by fdisk) only requires reading the first 512 bytes of the device though, it has no bearing on what may have happened elsewhere on the device
[16:08] <_SLM_> mcphail http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy?
[16:08] <Kartagis> but I get wrong fstype when I try to mount with -t reiserfs
[16:09] <AbuDhar> k1l_, that's not what I said.. I was saying that GPT works for all OS'
[16:09] <AbuDhar> while MBR is only Windows, right?
[16:09] <AbuDhar> or not?
[16:09] <boltzz> :( Having major issues guys. Why doesn't linux ever just... work?
[16:09] <AbuDhar> can Linux use MBR?
[16:09] <mcphail> _SLM_: that is the core nugget of it, but (with a lot of work) it will be polished and brought to the desktop
[16:09] <k1l_> AbuDhar: that is wrong. MBR was before gpt. and works for linux too
[16:09] <daftykins> AbuDhar: MBR is cross OS :>
[16:09] <TJ-> MBR = Master Boot Record, and is a disk label format used originally with BIOS. That only allowed 4 primary partitions, then along came GUID Partition Tables (GPT) with 128 primaries by default, and many more useful functions too. GPT generally uses the first *and last* 34 x 512 bytes (sectors) of the device
[16:09] <AbuDhar> okay :>
[16:10] <k1l_> boltzz: it does for me :)
[16:10] <boltzz> I'm trying to install xubuntu on my machine. I have had xubuntu on this machine and on this very SSD before, but now whenever I install, I boot up for the first time to a blinking cursor.
[16:10] <boltzz> No splash screens, no grub menus, just a black screen with a blinking cursor.
[16:10] <_SLM_> mcphail, considering a linux move now, whatever technologies happen in 5 years is good for then :)
[16:10] <boltzz> I've tried pressing ESC, I've tried pressing shift. Nothing.
[16:10] <TJ-> boltzz: Do you have more than one disk device attached, such as a USB mass storage device?
[16:11] <boltzz> TJ-, I quite a few additional internal HDs.
[16:11] <mcphail> _SLM_: true. If you find a ZoneAlarm equivalent, let me know :)
[16:11] <boltzz> boltzz, but why should they be an issue?
[16:11] <boltzz> boltzz, I'm not dual booting, I'm telling xubuntu to install on this particular SSD in its entirety.
[16:13] <TJ-> boltzz: if there are multiple drives then the problem is you've not set the drive you want as the boot drive, or else you accidentally installed the boot-loader to another disk
[16:13] <AbuDhar> Windows can only boot from GPT on UEFI-based computers running 64-bit versions of Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista, and corresponding server versions.
[16:13] <AbuDhar> All versions of Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7, and Vista can read GPT drives and use them for data — they just can’t boot from them without UEFI.
[16:13] <boltzz> TJ-, I am manually selecting this drive as the boot.
[16:14] <boltzz> TJ-, how could I have accidentally installed the bootloader on the wrong drive?
[16:14] <boltzz> TJ-, how can I install without doing so?
[16:14] <TJ-> boltzz: Right ... but if the boot-loader was accidentally installed to another drive... there's no bootloader on the drive you're selecting
[16:14] <boltzz> TJ-, okay, fair enough. Could be. How do I check where the bootloader ended up and how do I ensure it ends up on the drive I'm installing to?
[16:15] <TJ-> boltzz: if, for example, there are 6 drives in the PC, then the installer will not know which drive is the correct one to install the boot-loader to and will often choose the first disk discovered, which it would call /dev/sda ... and might not be the SSD you're installing the OS to
[16:16] <TJ-> boltzz: if you've not changed anything else I'd see if just letting the PC boot to its default boot device gets you to GRUB, and possibly the OS installed. I'd hold down shift as it boots to catch the GRUB boot menu, and then double-check from there the entries are the SSD ones I expected to see.
[16:21] <GAM002> i get a warning signal saying the software i installed might have a umet dependencies
[16:21] <GAM002> unmet
[16:23] <subthalamus> Hello, where would you start troubleshooting a spontaneous shutdown in kubuntu?
[16:23] <subthalamus> I think the T410 is overheating but how do I check and why doesn't it do it in Winders?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: did you add ppa's?
[16:23] <subthalamus> do I need to tweak fan settings or something?
[16:24] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, it'll likely be recorded in the logs, but if you've already narrowed it down to overheating ...
[16:24] <subthalamus> cfhowlett: which logs specifically?
[16:25] <subthalamus> cfhowlett: I say overheating as a guess. it tends to be when something video intensive is running and it if freaking hot where I live right now
[16:25] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, dmesg | more is a likely place to start
[16:25] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, ah, that sounds familiar - graphics card overload
[16:26] <subthalamus> [  633.092291] perf interrupt took too long (2502 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[16:26] <subthalamus> [  633.092291] perf interrupt took too long (2502 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[16:27] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, use paste
[16:27] <cfhowlett> !paste
[16:27] <subthalamus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960541/
[16:28] <subthalamus> nothing else seems relevant in dmesg
[16:28] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, yeah, that does seem to reference the intel gpu
[16:29] <subthalamus> how do I tell kubuntu to play nicer with it?
[16:29] <subthalamus> increase GPU speed or decrease clockrate or something?!?
[16:29] <subthalamus> *fan speed
[16:29] <plr> hello guys , how can i forward journalctl into logstash ?
[16:30] <subthalamus> if Micro$oft can do it :/
[16:30] <cfhowlett> subthalamus, the fix exceeds my abilities.  sorry.  but you seem to be on the trail.
[16:31] <subthalamus> I'll sit it on icepacks :)
[16:31] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: sorry for the late reply. What is ppa?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | GAM002
[16:35] <TJ-> subthalamus: those errors are critical, and were introduced with commit 32b7eeec4. Which Ubuntu release/kernel version is being used there?
[16:35] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: aah yes i did add and extra download source for installing steam
[16:35] <CB6> If you had Samba running and no shares in theory would the Samba machine at least show up in the workgroup when you click network?
[16:35] <GAM002> client
[16:35] <CB6> I disabled the firewall and it still didn't show up in the workgroup
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: you might wanna remove that ppa from sources and apt-get update
[16:36] <GAM002> why?
[16:36] <GAM002> i think there is an update available waiting to be installed for steam client could that be the reason?
[16:36] <subthalamus> Description:    Ubuntu 15.04
[16:36] <subthalamus> Release:        15.04
[16:36] <subthalamus> Codename:       vivid
[16:37] <GAM002> is it beacause i havent installed the update?
[16:37] <subthalamus> TJ-: vivid , sorry remind me how to check the video driver version in use?
[16:37] <TJ-> subthalamus: check the kernel version with "uname -r"
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> GAM002: might be because of the ppa you added, always a risk
[16:38] <subthalamus> 3.19.0-25-generic
[16:38] <Unaccounted4> glxinfo | grep version
[16:38] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: well the source is trusted
[16:39] <subthalamus> installing mesa-utils
[16:39] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: so the problem will be removed if i remove it from source?
[16:39] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: and wont i stop getting update for that software if i do that?
[16:39] <subthalamus> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 10.5.2
[16:39] <subthalamus> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
[16:39] <subthalamus> OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 2.0 Mesa 10.5.2
[16:39] <subthalamus> OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 1.0.16
[16:40] <Unaccounted4> You're using the open source drivers
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | GAM002
[16:40] <subthalamus> Unaccounted4: ok, what is recommended?
[16:41] <Unaccounted4> Which gpu did you have again?
[16:41] <GAM002> lotuspsychje: ok thank You
[16:41] <TJ-> subthalamus: it looks like this bug #1436590 (several other similar bugs too)
[16:41] <designbybeck> Is there a Ubuntu Background Image going on with this device? https://www.ily.co/ if you scroll down towards the bottom
[16:42] <TJ-> subthalamus: if you can't fix it any other way it might be worth trying out the latest xorg-edgers PPA packages at https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> designbybeck: it looks like it, but i dont think it is
[16:45] <subthalamus> TJ-: can I just restart Xorg or do I need to reboot?
[16:45] <designbybeck> does look pretty close but I didn't know either lotuspsychje
[16:46] <designbybeck> lotuspsychje, though I'm sure there is a raspberry pi add on that will make that same thing for much cheaper! ;)
[16:46] <CB6> has Unity been buggy for Samba folder shares?
[16:47] <subthalamus> brb
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> CB6: thats handled by Nautilus, nothing to do with Unity
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> CB6: Nautilus and gvfs
[16:49] <CB6> Known issues with Nautilus and Samba in 14?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> CB6: "14" what is "14" ?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> CB6: ask your real samba issue mate
[16:49] <CB6> Ubuntu 14
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> CB6: there is no "Ubuntu 14"
[16:49] <cfhowlett> CB6, 14.04 or 14.10 (EOL/DOA)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> CB6: there is Ubuntu 14.04 (Codenamed Trusty) and Ubuntu 14.10 (Codenamed Utopic, which is EOL)
[16:50] <TJ-> subthalamus: it looks like a serious kernel error
[16:50] <cfhowlett> CB6, let's find out: open a terminal:  lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> CB6: the 14th release of Ubuntu is Natty (Ubuntu 11.04) which went EOL ages ago
[16:50] <jesse__> I´ve got a dell inspiron 1525. Which only has 3gb of RAM and some terrible integrated graphics card I think, can it run ubuntu nicely?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: should be fine
[16:51] <CB6> I would look at system settings manually but it isn't working anymore in Unity :|
[16:51] <cfhowlett> jesse__, possible yes, but you might xubuntu or lubuntu snappier
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: if you want to free more resources for applications, then use Xubuntu and the desktop session will use less RAM
[16:51] <CB6> I meant 14.0 whatever lol
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> CB6: there is a difference, as I just showed
[16:51] <jesse__> But I want to use Unity, but im afraid it will be slow indeed.
[16:51] <CB6> I installed like a couple days ago so whatever is on the site
[16:51] <jesse__> But Unity looks nice
[16:51] <CB6> yes
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> CB6: 15.04 and 14.04 and 12.04 are fully supported
[16:52] <cfhowlett> CB6, please don't "whatever". unclear info >>> bad answers.
[16:52] <subthalamus> doh, I don't think the drivers changed
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: Unity should run. Its not that big. Try it in live CD. If it works there then great
[16:52] <subthalamus> TJ-: I added the edgers ppa but
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> CB6: Samba in Nautilus in Trusty should be fine. What issue are you seeing?
[16:53] <subthalamus> after an update, nothing seems to have changed
[16:53] <DWSR> Anyone know how to run allow Guest sessions to properly manipulate network connections?
[16:53] <Jamie_1> for some odd reason my terminal is showing just black and several drop downs are just black
[16:53] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960220/ does the fact that the conf isn't showing specified shares matter if nautilus shows shared folders? smbtree shows samba as running as per specific folders none displayed. I'm not sure if smbtree is supposed to show that
[16:53] <kostkon> jesse__, intel hd3k and 4k should be able to run Unity just fine
[16:53] <jesse__> Great :D
[16:53] <TJ-> subthalamus: did you do "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[16:54] <jesse__> Thanks for your advice; ActionParsnip kostkon
[16:54] <Jamie_1> jesse__: I did downgrade my kernal to 3.13 but it was messy before that
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> CB6: gvfs will manage the shares you specify in nautilus. Personally I use the config file but thats just how I manage it
[16:54] <CB6> I asked in samba and it's dead in there. Someone just said I specified no shares but I have nautilus specifying share folders so trying to figure out why it doesn't show up at all. The router etc shows up no issues in the workgroup
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> jesse__: no worries, hope it works out for you
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> CB6: what OS are the clients going to be?
[16:55] <jesse__> Hope so too, I´ve been on Mint for some time. I started working on my Ubuntu phone app for the competition and I thought to myself I cant be developing an Ubuntu app on Mint i gotta download Ubuntu haha
[16:55] <CB6> I'm not familiar with Trusty so I don't know what you mean by that. I'm assuming it's some sort of share manager. The conf file didn't update but does that matter if this Trusty manages it?
[16:55] <subthalamus> TJ-: well, no but when I do it now it says nothing to do
[16:55] <subthalamus> (paraphrased)
[16:55] <CB6> oh ok so gvfs does the share management
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> CB6: yes, but what OS are the clients connectin gto the share/s going to be using?
[16:56] <subthalamus> this is already vivid
[16:56] <CB6> does gvfs update smb.conf on the fly because it wasn't updated here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960220/
[16:56] <Jamie_1> i am on ubuntu-gnome 14.04 my terminal is black... not able to do anything... on gnome de when i click on a drop down in firefox it does nothing.... on unity de the drop down comes down but is black.... i had to install a secondary terminal to work around it... im not really sure what needs to be done to fix this or diagnose the problem. can someone help me figure this out
[16:57] <CB6> 1 windows 7 laptop 1 ubuntu desktop
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> ok cool, if it was pure Linux you could ditch samba :)
[16:58] <subthalamus> cfhowlett: thanks
[16:58] <CB6> file share speeds are so low in Teamviewer so that is far from practical.
[16:58] <subthalamus> TJ-: what are the generally more recommended drivers for this intel chipset?
[16:58] <subthalamus> are there better proprietary drivers?
[16:59] <Jamie_1> any ideas?
[16:59] <daftykins> Jamie_1: test a new user / guest account
[17:00] <Jamie_1> okay... have to log out in that case then
[17:00] <daftykins> mmhmm
[17:00] <compdoc> Jamie_1, could be a video card driver problem. what happens if you boot the Ubuntu live cd?
[17:00] <Jamie_1> compdoc: cant dont have a flash drive large enough right now
[17:01] <daftykins> Jamie_1: oh was this that fresh Lenovo install?
[17:01] <Jamie_1> yep
[17:01] <daftykins> ah-har
[17:01] <TJ-> subthalamus: the drivers are in the kernel
[17:01] <daftykins> Jamie_1: done much after the mini install + DE install?
[17:02] <nemith> so openconnect and some update in the last week is fucked
[17:02] <nemith> network-manager-openconnect that is
[17:02] <daftykins> nemith: unwelcome language
[17:02] <nemith> sorry
[17:03] <Jamie_1> daftykins: well... installed tb, firefox trunk, aurora, and beta... steam... change kernal version... installed sublime...
[17:04] <daftykins> Jamie_1: to which kernel?
[17:04] <Jamie_1> daftykins: 3.13
[17:04] <daftykins> but that's what 14.04 comes with
[17:05] <daftykins> hmm may've tried to give you a newer HWE kernel i guess
[17:05] <subthalamus> TJ-: wow, I'm a dinosaur
[17:05] <subthalamus> they don't do the binary drivers any more?
[17:05] <Jamie_1> daftykins: it came with 3.16
[17:05] <subthalamus> nvidia and ati/amd ?
[17:05] <daftykins> Jamie_1: ah yeah, 14.10 HWE stack then.
[17:06] <TJ-> subthalamus: it's an Intel device, all the Intel drivers are open-sourced and mainlined
[17:06] <ivan_on_trac> My OS is 64-bit. But I use 32-bit programs in compatibility mode.  "dpkg --add-architecture i386" - But after an upgrade from Ubuntu, the program no longer works properly.
[17:06] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yea... so i just manually rolled it back to 3.13
[17:06] <ivan_on_trac> My Ubuntu is 14.04
[17:06] <daftykins> Jamie_1: if that laptop has new enough hardware, it could be having an issue... but yeah still prefer to hear if another account has an issue too
[17:06] <subthalamus> TJ-: OK, so how do I verify that the intel drivers are the edgers variety?
[17:06] <Jamie_1> daftykins: brb going to check
[17:06] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: i don't think you are supposed to run that anymore.
[17:08] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: why dot?!
[17:08] <TJ-> subthalamus: The kernel driver is part of the standard kernel packages. The Xorg drivers will come from the xserver-xorg-video-intel package I think it is
[17:08] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: because ubuntu is multiarch now
[17:08] <subthalamus> TJ-: if we're talking about  i915-3.19-3.13 , they have not been updated since january
[17:08] <subthalamus> don't video drivers get updated more frequently usually?
[17:09] <TJ-> subthalamus: no, no need, unless serious bugs are being fixed
[17:09] <Gallomimia> not so much. not for nvidia anyway
[17:09] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: Since when ?
[17:09] <TJ-> !mainline | subthalamus you could try a more recent mainline kernel build
[17:10] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yep... same thing
[17:11] <daftykins> Jamie_1: ok, can you install 'pastebinit' and share an "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[17:12] <Jamie_1> daftykins: good thing i installed the alternative terminal
[17:12] <Jamie_1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960804/
[17:12] <daftykins> well there are TTYs too
[17:13] <OerHeks> ivan_on_trac, as of 11.10 > http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package/107249#107249
[17:13] <Jamie_1> daftykins: cant copy and paste with tty....
[17:13] <Jamie_1> i dont feel like writing down the pastbin #
[17:14] <daftykins> seriously :P
[17:14] <csb> Hello, does anyone know any opensource screen recording program for both Ubuntu and Windows 8.1 besides Open Broadcaster (OBS) ? I need something lightweight (even if that means record with low resolution like 800x600).
[17:14] <ivan_on_trac> OerHeks: But it was working. But the latest update broke something.
[17:15] <ivan_on_trac> And as I undo this setting? dpkg --add-architecture i386
[17:15] <bazhang> !info kazam
[17:15] <Jamie_1> daftykins: with the amount of stuff i do in one day... yes that little thing makes a difference... :P
[17:15] <bazhang> try kazam for ubuntu csb
[17:16] <bazhang> ##windows for the other csb
[17:16] <csb> bazhang, ty
[17:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: so this is gnome3?
[17:17] <Jamie_1> daftykins: yes... i would ask over there... but did and there is no one in there.... :/
[17:17] <daftykins> Jamie_1: i don't know anything about that DE or why a terminal would be blank, my only idea would be to try installing the v4 mainline kernel and see if the newer intel driver affects it in any way - but that might be totally wrong.
[17:18] <daftykins> !mainline
[17:18] <Jamie_1> daftykins: right now i am on unity de and its still doing the same thing...
[17:18] <ubuntu-mate> test
[17:18] <daftykins> Jamie_1: doing what specifically?
[17:18] <ubuntu-mate> Hello World
[17:19] <Jamie_1> daftykins: all pop up stuff like notifications for emails and stuff are just black bubbles.. firefox drop downs are black bubbles and the terminal is black
[17:20] <daftykins> Jamie_1: and you're totally fine with regards to a dist-upgrade?
[17:20] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i can try... but that may end with my annoying you more to get the correct gcc build stuff
[17:20] <Jamie_1> and it would have to wait till after 3 due to i have an online meeting at 2....
[17:20] <daftykins> Jamie_1: well you have to be up to date regardless. and i know nothing about gcc so fire away :P
[17:21] <daftykins> heh lets hope your meeting doesn't require any black bubbles
[17:21] <Jamie_1> skype... have to install and hope it works
[17:21] <daftykins> i've used it on ubuntu fine
[17:21] <Raulwynn> using ubuntu 15.04 and nvidia gtx 660 with nvidia 352.30 driver. Why can't I watch HD video on my computer?
[17:22] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i know it runs fine... the question is with my current problem will it run fine.....
[17:22] <Jamie_1> ;p
[17:22] <daftykins> ok
[17:22] <daftykins> well do it and find out instead of pondering :D
[17:23] <Jamie_1> i am right now....
[17:23] <Jamie_1> its install as we speak
[17:23] <Jamie_1> lol i keep trying to hot corner like on gnome....
[17:25] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: HD video from where?
[17:25] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960866/ is this smb.conf done right? Still not seeing the share and I figure it might be the conf file configuration.
[17:25] <Raulwynn> youtube/vimeo
[17:25] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: is is just super stuttery?
[17:26] <Raulwynn> It won't let me watch anything above 360. There is no option like my computer doesn't have the capability.
[17:26] <Raulwynn> Even at 360 (or whatever low resolution) it stutters
[17:26] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: can you link an example video?
[17:27] <Raulwynn> https://vimeo.com/groups/77343/videos/104314807
[17:27] <Raulwynn> Aargh! This video can’t be played with your current setup. is what it tells me
[17:27] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: well that does explain much...
[17:28] <Raulwynn> tgm4883: What is that?
[17:28] <Jamie_1> daftykins: works... just not very well right now... little challenging to operate without the drop downs
[17:28] <Raulwynn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcixldqDIEQ What is the highest resolution option you have?
[17:29] <Raulwynn> I'm reading it is an issue with firefox?
[17:30] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: 1920x1080 in Chrome
[17:30] <Raulwynn> Okay hold on. Lemme get Chrome
[17:40] <hackin88> hy
[17:45] <Raulwynn> tgm4883: Still holding me to 360p. Is there an issue with ubuntu not playing at a higher resolution? I've watched 1080p on this PC through winXP before
[17:45] <Austneal> I've accidentally told dpkg to overwrite my apache conf file while upgrading... apache2 hasn't reloaded, so everything is still working. But is there a way to recover my conf file?
[17:46] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: I'm not on my Ubuntu machine at the moment, but no, I've watched 1080p before from it
[17:47] <TJ-> Austneal: you should find that dpkg created a backup. look in /etc/apache2/ and sub-dirs for files ending ".dpkg-old" or similar
[17:47] <hackin88> Good afternoon companions
[17:47] <tgm4883> hackin88: do you have a question?
[17:47] <ioria> Raulwynn, what driver are you using ?
[17:48] <Raulwynn> 352.30
[17:49] <ioria> Raulwynn, using nouveau  on a GeForce GT 430 with no issue .  what cpu ?
[17:49] <Raulwynn> I'm running a dual core 2.2ghz
[17:49] <hackin88> I am new to using the IRC, I'm just testing this tool, thank you my friend
[17:49] <CB6> If ufw is off is there potential for samba to still be blocked?
[17:50] <ioria> Raulwynn, what dual core ?    cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:50] <Austneal> TJ-: I'm going to love you forever if that works.... one sec
[17:51] <Raulwynn> E4500
[17:51] <ioria> Raulwynn, was good on XP ?
[17:51] <Raulwynn> Yes
[17:51] <ioria> Raulwynn, with HD,  i mean ?
[17:51] <Raulwynn> Yes
[17:52] <Raulwynn> 1080p with no stuttering
[17:52] <timbozeman> would it be hard to make F8 send paste keys? (ctrl + v) I've looked at doing it with autohotkey, but it doesn't seem to do easy at the system level
[17:52] <Austneal> TJ-
[17:52] <Austneal> I love you xD
[17:52] <ioria> Raulwynn, did you try wih the default nouveau ? before installing nvidia ?
[17:52] <Raulwynn> Yes it was terrible
[17:53] <ioria> Raulwynn, ohhh
[17:53] <Raulwynn> 360p would stutter and break so bad.
[17:54] <ioria> Raulwynn, unity ?
[17:54] <Raulwynn> Yes
[17:55] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: are you sure you are using the prop drivers?
[17:55] <Raulwynn> 100%
[17:55] <Raulwynn> What should I do to make sure
[17:55] <tgm4883> well that doesn't sound like 100% ;)
[17:56] <ioria> Raulwynn, ubuntu-drivers list ?
[17:56] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: "glxinfo | grep OpenGL"
[17:56] <tgm4883> I don't have my ubuntu machine right now, but a quick search says that should work.
[17:56] <tgm4883> Can you pastebin the output of that Raulwynn
[17:57] <Lurchy> hey people...quick question about top
[17:57] <Raulwynn> hold on lemme install pastebin
[17:57] <Lurchy> why dont I see a cursor so I can type "k " to kill a process?
[17:58] <Raulwynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11961042/
[17:58] <Lurchy> newbie using top for first time.....how do I bring up cursor to type?
[17:58] <tgm4883> Lurchy: what?
[17:58] <tgm4883> Lurchy: just hit k
[17:58] <tgm4883> Lurchy: no cursor needed
[17:58] <Lurchy> i can "q" out of top....
[17:58] <Lurchy> back to cml
[17:58] <Lurchy> err cmd prompt
[17:59] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: hmm, appears to be using it correctly
[17:59] <Raulwynn> I don't know... I mean my computer should have no problem with this.
[18:00] <Lurchy> was watching tutorial video on how to explore top....but I guess its different ubu release....it doesnt look the same
[18:00] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: well I agree, but the issue appears to be that your browser is saying it doesn't support those resolutions...
[18:00] <EriC^^> Lurchy: htop maybe?
[18:01] <Raulwynn> tgm4883: I got it.
[18:01] <Raulwynn> Not sure what happened but it started working.
[18:01] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: yea?
[18:01] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: weird
[18:01] <Lurchy> video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnSUX2otYos   look at video at around 39:20
[18:02] <Lurchy> why does his top screen have cursor at top and I dont?  is this where i kill processes?
[18:02] <Lurchy> just tryin to learn
[18:02] <Na3iL> hey, am searching for council member to join the meeting of #ubuntu-africa , anyone here
[18:02] <tgm4883> Lurchy: have you tried just hitting 'k'?
[18:03] <Lurchy> well...i dont want to start killing processes willy nilly.....lol....
[18:03] <tgm4883> Lurchy: then don't type in a PID after it ;)
[18:03] <Lurchy> ahh
[18:03] <Lurchy> the ki comes up now
[18:04] <tgm4883> :)
[18:04] <Lurchy> err prompts comes up now
[18:04] <Lurchy> i see...said the blind man
[18:04] <drfoobaz> Hi, my sound only plays as root. And my user is in the audio, pulse, and pulse-access groups.
[18:04] <tgm4883> Na3iL: maybe try #ubuntu-community-team
[18:05] <Na3iL> ty tgm4883
[18:06] <Lurchy> ok...so another dumb question...where can I find a list of all promgrams that are NOT running in top....so i can do a /etc/init.d/(process) start
[18:06] <Lurchy> ?
[18:07] <tgm4883> uh
[18:07] <Lurchy> like if I want to openssh into my server box and restart a vnc type server process?
[18:07] <tgm4883> Lurchy: well that would be the wrong way to start a service, although that is where they are
[18:07] <EriC^^> Lurchy: service --status-all might be useful
[18:07] <tgm4883> EriC^^: +1
[18:08] <spjt> service --status-all | egrep '\[ -' | awk '{print $4}'
[18:08] <drfoobaz> Anyone know about my sound issue?
[18:09] <stacks88> when i ran apt-get install screen i got these 2 messages, what do they mean? #1 update-rc.d: warning: default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S) and #2 update-rc.d: warning: default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Stop values (none)
[18:11] <Lurchy> tgm4883: what is the correct way to start a process that is running(but not responding) or start a service that is not currently running?
[18:11] <Lurchy> can I do a etc/init.d?
[18:11] <Lurchy> or restart
[18:12] <tgm4883> Lurchy: 'service <SERVICENAME> <COMMAND>' where <COMMAND> could be start, stop, restart, status
[18:13] <Lurchy> long story short...I use splashtop(vnc type program) cause I can tunnel out of work to all my puters at once...but it keeps dieing and not respondings from my ubuntu server box behind my router
[18:13] <Lurchy> just trying to learn how to reboot the program
[18:13] <Lurchy> ahh
[18:13] <Lurchy> ok...
[18:14] <drfoobaz> So how can I get sound to play without root? My user is already in all the sound related groups.
[18:21] <Lurchy> cool...figured it out
[18:24] <stacks88> when i ran apt-get install screen i got these 2 messages, what do they mean? #1 update-rc.d: warning: default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S) and #2 update-rc.d: warning: default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Stop values (none).. never got these before, is there anything wrong?
[18:29] <TJ-> stacks88: looks like the package postinst script is setting launch runlevels different to those the sysv init script declares
[18:29] <stacks88> ive installed screen tons of times before, and i never got that message.. so im trying to understand why would that happen now? when i havent touched or done anything on this particular box
[18:30] <stacks88> and so what should i do, just leave it?
[18:30] <stacks88> maybe its becuase i didnt run apt-get update and upgrade first?
[18:30] <TJ-> stacks88: never seen that reported, but 14.04 install here has that script ("/etc/init.d/screen-cleanup") and it declares runlevel "S" but is installed to the multiuser runlevels via "/etc/rc[23455].d/S20screen-cleanup"
[18:30] <DWSR> Hey, I'm having an issue with Network Manager not being started when a user logs in. I can start Network Manager manually and proper functionality is restored. How can I resolve this?
[18:31] <TJ-> DWSR: Network Manager, or just the nmapplet GUI?
[18:31] <DWSR> TJ-: Actual Network Manager. nm-applet is actually starting and saying "Network Manager is not started"
[18:32] <TJ-> DWSR: Assuming its using Upstart, check that there isn't a "/etc/init/network-manager.override" making it a manual start
[18:33] <DWSR> TJ-: I'm on 14.04, which is still upstart.
[18:33] <wad> Weird. I've got two processes that won't die, even with kill -9 as root.
[18:37] <pritam> when I restarted mint .it themes became high contrast. very bad look .what should I do ?
[18:37] <tmmunq> im using 14.04 with the full disk encryption, and for the last few kernel updates i am unable to enter the password on boot. what do i do? i am stuck on old kernel, -55 i think
[18:38] <daftykins> !mint | pritam sorry.
[18:38] <samuelaccomo> ciao
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> !it | samuelaccomo
[18:38] <samuelaccomo> !list^
[18:39] <Raulwynn> Is there anyway to install office 2013 with ubuntu?
[18:39] <DWSR> TJ-: lol, apt didn't put network-manager into upstart.
[18:39] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Wine.
[18:39] <nicomachus> Raulwynn: there is, but is there a reason that something like LibreOffice Word doesn't work for what you have in mind?
[18:39] <Raulwynn> DWSR: I tried. I get errored out
[18:39] <Raulwynn> Yeah I have to have office for my work.
[18:40] <Raulwynn> It's Office Professional Plus with Lync
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> Raulwynn: playonlinux or office 2013 web apps for ubuntu
[18:40] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Guess you have to run a VM or dual boot then
[18:40] <nicomachus> ahhhh... Lync. :/
[18:40] <Raulwynn> Yeah.
[18:40] <Raulwynn> Fun huh?
[18:40] <DWSR> Raulwynn: You could just run Lync/SfB on another device.
[18:40] <DWSR> And SfB is very useful.
[18:40] <Raulwynn> DWSR: What is SfB?
[18:40] <DWSR> Skype for Business. Lync has been rebranded.
[18:41] <Raulwynn> Are you sure I can use my VPN with that?
[18:41] <DWSR> TJ-: Do you know what the normal run level for network-manager is?
[18:41] <DWSR> Do you need to have a VPN connected in order to use Lync?
[18:42] <Raulwynn> Yes. Actually, maybe not.
[18:42] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Are you an Office 365 org?
[18:42] <Raulwynn> I don't think that Lync goes through the VPN
[18:42] <Raulwynn> No
[18:42] <Raulwynn> They purchase the Pro Plus 2013 for all employees
[18:43] <DWSR> So Lync is on-premises?
[18:43] <Raulwynn> Yes.
[18:43] <DWSR> Raulwynn: That doesn't mean that you don't have Office 365.
[18:43] <Raulwynn> We do not have Office 365
[18:43] <Raulwynn> I promise.
[18:43] <Raulwynn> They buy lifetime licences.
[18:44] <Raulwynn> I'm trying a vmachine using vbox but it's not installing very fast at all
[18:44] <DWSR> Raulwynn: That's fine. You can buy perpetual 2013 licenses and still use Office 365 for the online services. That's what my org does. We're a not for profit and we have sponsored 2013 proplus licensing. with Enterprise E2 plans.
[18:45] <CB6> I'm getting this error  * Restarting web server apache2                                                AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[18:45] <Raulwynn> DWSR: So how does that help me run Office on Ubuntu... I'm confused
[18:45] <CB6> I noticed when I enter in apache it shows fine but for php.ini it doesn't display.
[18:46] <CB6> my local ip isn't ending in 1 it's 101. How do I alter this as per the above error.
[18:46] <DWSR> Raulwynn: If it doesn't work in Wine or Cedega, you can't. You'll need to use some alternative setup, such as a VM, dual boot, or using just the Skype for Business portion on another device.
[18:47] <jeriko> hola a todos buenas tardes
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !es | jeriko
[18:47] <Raulwynn> DWSR: Why did they stop support of XP :( I guess I'm going to have to buy a new machine soon! :)
[18:47] <jeriko> gracias
[18:47] <DWSR> Raulwynn: Because XP is a horrible bug-ridden mess that was based on code from 20 years ago and was EOLed about 5 years too late.
[18:48] <DWSR> Raulwynn: 7 is MUCH better, and 10 is better still.
[18:48] <Traumatizer> I broke my Ubuntu and don´t know how to fix it, could anyone offer some assistance maybe? :)
[18:48] <p1und3r> DWSR: whats wrong with 20 year old code, *cough* unix :D
[18:48] <p1und3r> 40 year old code ftw
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Traumatizer
[18:48] <stacks88> TJ- so should I just edit /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup and change at the top where it says Default-Start: S to 2 3 4 5 and change Default-Stop to 0 1 6 ? cause it kept saying  default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S) and default stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Stop values (none) , im running 14.04
[18:49] <DWSR> p1und3r: Not everything is 40 years old in Unix, iirc there's been a rewrite or two.
[18:49] <Raulwynn> I tell you what. My win XP would game circles around any Win 7 of similar hardware because the OS was using almost ZERO resources.
[18:49] <p1und3r> DWSR: true but still :p
[18:49] <p1und3r> old doesn't mean bad
[18:49] <DWSR> Raulwynn: You can say that, except that's literally been disproven.
[18:49] <p1und3r> microsoft means bad
[18:49] <p1und3r> :P
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> guys keep ubuntu ontopic
[18:50] <Raulwynn> DWSR: With nothing running my CPU is at 0% and my ram at 76mb... Win 7 my CPU is at 2% and my ram at 2000+mb
[18:50] <p1und3r> sorry i thought i was in #bashmicrosoft
[18:50] <p1und3r> :)
[18:50] <DWSR> TJ-: For whatever reason, the network-manager service doesn't start unless I'm logged in with a particular user. Thoughts on why?
[18:50] <Raulwynn> Sorry.
[18:51] <tgm4883> Raulwynn: that must be a fun game, "Desktop"
[18:51] <Traumatizer> I tried to install popcorn-time, it produced the error that it could not find the shared oject file libudev.so.0 and therefore crashed. Only I found the solution to link libudev.so.0 to libudev.so.1, So i tried this to it still didnt work, so I unlinked the file again and just gave up. But know Chrome can´t start either anymore because apparently it also akes use of this same shared object file. How can I just reset everything with regards
[18:51] <Traumatizer> to the libudev.so.0 file?
[18:51] <nicomachus> Traumatizer: purge it and reinstall.
[18:52] <Traumatizer> like: sudo apt-get purge libudev.so.0?
[18:52] <DWSR> Raulwynn: So? XP never had a proper 64bit release and so it was limited to 3.7GB, or slightly more with PAE (but worse performancewise). I can shove 32GB of RAM in my 7 machine. Additionally, I have better default hardware detection, more features, a completely new window manager, and a ton more.
[18:52] <xangua> Traumatizer: are you using 12.04? A 32 bit IS?
[18:52] <nicomachus> same with popcorntime to fix that error. I would also suggest installing popcorntime from the webupd8 team ppa instead of compiling from the source on the popcorntime site. It's always worked better for me personally. YMMV
[18:52] <Traumatizer> xangua, no latest Ubuntu 64-bit..
[18:52] <xangua> !ot | DWSR Raulwynn
[18:53] <Traumatizer> nicomachus, have also tried that. But doesn´t work either. I think somehow i really broke the libudev.so.0 package or something
[18:53] <xangua> Traumatizer: latest what? What Ubuntu release? Where did you download popcorn and how did you install it?
[18:53] <p1und3r> Traumatizer: you said all u did was symlink it?
[18:53] <p1und3r> just undo what u did :p
[18:54] <rootgjhack13> boreddddddddddddd
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> rootgjhack13: not the channel for this
[18:54] <Traumatizer> xangua 14.04.02 LTS 64-bit; plund3r i did unlink it already.
[18:56] <subzer0> hello world
[18:57] <rootgjhack13_> hello mars
[18:57] <otenh> High
[18:58] <otenh> Hi guys how far with the meeting
[18:58] <xangua> Traumatizer: have you trying searching at popcorn forum? I remember reading something about your issue, not sure tho
[18:58] <k1l_> otenh: what meeting? this is the ubuntu support channel.
[18:58] <rootgjhack13_> op yyuuuuukkk oooppppp
[18:59] <otenh> Ooo them I am in the wrong pls
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Traumatizer: If it is any help, I too run google-chrome on 14.04; My results : sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0 >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 11  2012 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0 -> libudev.so.0.13.0 . Seems the symlink is required.
[19:00] <Traumatizer> Oh, so actually but I unlinking I removed a link google chrome requires. Bashing-om;
[19:01] <Traumatizer> Gonna re-link and see what happens, still strange actually that popcorn-time than doesnt work.
[19:02] <xangua> Traumatizer: apparently you need the 32 bit package, I think that's what I did long ago. sudo apt-get install libudev0:i386
[19:03] <Traumatizer> Xangua; that no longer exists, I found that solution too.
[19:03] <Traumatizer> E: Package 'libudev0:i386' has no installation candidate
[19:03] <xangua> No longer exist? Maybe I did it for 12.04?
[19:04] <Traumatizer> Could very well be
[19:04] <Traumatizer> Im just gonna remove Chrome and than reinstall it, my guess is that it´ll fix it at least to its original state
[19:04] <nicomachus> ^ :)
[19:05] <ioria> !info libudev1
[19:06] <ioria> !info libgudev-1.0-0
[19:10] <takuan> who do I turn to for issues with hibernation in ubuntu?
[19:10] <takuan> is this a kernel thing?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> takuan: ask away in the channel mate
[19:10] <nicomachus> !ask | takuan
[19:11] <takuan> ok, simple thing
[19:12] <takuan> I set swappiness to 0, I have nothing in swap, hibernate, un-hibernate, my swap has more than 1gig of stuff in it
[19:12] <Traumatizer> ubottu, xangua; Reinstall of chrome fixed the issue. With the dependencies it probably placed the right libs in the right directories again. Idk really, but it works again :D
[19:12] <takuan> worse of all it all gets swapped back in at 1-2 mb/s
[19:12] <takuan> which is damn slow and hangs the system for 2 minutes
[19:12] <takuan> why on earth is the kernel keeping all this stuff in the swap file which basically wasn't there in the first place
[19:12] <takuan> even with swappiness put to 0
[19:12] <takuan> ?
[19:12] <nicomachus> Traumatizer: Great news. So what's the status on popcorntime then?
[19:13] <xangua> takuan: why not just suspend?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> takuan: investigate your syslog and dmesg while hibernating
[19:13] <xangua> takuan: putting that setting to 0 doesn't mean it will not use swap
[19:15] <mcphail> takuan: of course hibernate puts everything in swap. What did you think it did?
[19:16] <takuan> lotuspsychje: i did, nothing there
[19:17] <takuan> xangua: why waste energy when you don't need to ?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> takuan: tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg and fool around with hibernate until it freezes
[19:17] <takuan> mcphail: it's supposed to put everything back in memory isn't it?
[19:18] <takuan> tuxonice does that nicely but it's no longer stable
[19:18] <takuan> lotuspsychje: I'll try it, but I'm afraid I know the answer
[19:18] <mcphail> takuan: and putting everything back in memory takes a long time. TBH, I think it doesn't even try to put everything, due to the lag
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> takuan: and check htop maybe, see wich process gets high before freeze
[19:20] <mcphail> takuan: if you want speed, use an SSD or suspend rather than hibernate. Hibernate is always rumoured to be being deprecated anyway
[19:20] <takuan> lotuspsychje: firefox and chromium
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> takuan: do you own an ssd in your system to set swappiness to 0?
[19:20] <takuan> mcphail: suspend uses energy when doing nothing
[19:20] <takuan> I want to come back after a night and have my system up
[19:20] <mcphail> takuan: it isn't doing nothing, though, is it?
[19:20] <takuan> mcphail: check it with a meter, in suspend it is using 2 watt
[19:21] <takuan> and your monitor as well
[19:21] <takuan> lotuspsychje: it's a semi ssd
[19:21] <xangua> takuan: if you mean tux on ice PPA,I see it's updated for supported Ubuntu release
[19:21] <takuan> hybrid drive
[19:21] <mcphail> takuan: of course - it takes power to keep your RAM ticking over. If you want speed, current technology says you have to pay for it
[19:21] <takuan> xangua: yup, but not stable on my system
[19:22] <takuan> mcphail: my system should actually fly but for some reason firefox and chromium are swapped in at 2mb/s
[19:22] <takuan> god knows why
[19:22] <mcphail> takuan: a hybrid drive is no better than a standard HDD for hibernate
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> takuan: tweak system a bit, see if that gets your system faster, swappiness 10, install preload,clean with bleachbit
[19:22] <takuan> mcphail: with 8 gb of ssd in it?
[19:22] <takuan> the actual unhibernate (not the swapping afterwards) takes 2 seconds or something
[19:23] <mcphail> takuan: of course. The SSD is taken up by frequently accessed files. The contents of your memory are a random write
[19:23] <takuan> lotuspsychje: the weird thing is that in the beginning it keeps it at 0 after hibernate, after a few hibernation cycles it suddenly jumps to 1 gig
[19:23] <takuan> mcphail: don't get your point
[19:23] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: as mcphail says hybrid is bit like classical drive not real ssd
[19:24] <takuan> the swap file is used all the time because I'm frequently hibernating
[19:24] <takuan> it get read in very fast
[19:24] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: might take your settings lower
[19:24] <takuan> but for some reason not everything is put back to memory
[19:24] <takuan> lotuspsychje_: swappiness?
[19:24] <takuan> it's at 0 now
[19:24] <mcphail> takuan: the swap file is constantly changing. That is not something which can be improved with a hybrid drive - the SSD cache will cache files which are frequently-used and not changing
[19:24] <takuan> I tried 10, 1 and 0, all the same it would seem
[19:25] <takuan> mcphail: then why is the unhibernate process so quick?
[19:25] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: reccomended for real ssd is 10, i would try 60 to test your case
[19:25] <takuan> lotuspsychje_: 60 was the same
[19:25] <takuan> that's where I started
[19:25] <mcphail> takuan: because the kernel can load what it needs from swap. It only gives the appearance of being quick
[19:25] <takuan> I presumed that turing it down would improve it, but it stays the same
[19:26] <mcphail> takuan: you can't magically transfer 8GB from a spinning disk into your RAM
[19:26] <takuan> mcphail: the ssd cache on the drive is 8gb
[19:26] <takuan> the hibernation image on the swapfile should be about 1-2 gig
[19:26] <mcphail> takuan: yep - and the cache will be occupied by frequently-accessed files - not your swap
[19:27] <takuan> I guess that firefox has a ton of little files open which get swapped in slowly then?
[19:27] <mcphail> takuan: yes - and a ton of libraries which get swapped in slowly
[19:27] <takuan> is there a way to find out what part of a process is actually swapped and what not?
[19:28] <mcphail> takuan: I think so, but just about _everything_ you have will be in swap when you resume from hibernate
[19:28] <takuan> anyway, this bug seem to have been there for ages: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/329199
[19:29] <takuan> btw, the last post is mine at the time I was under the impression that changing swapiness would do something
[19:29] <mcphail> takuan: as I said, hibernate gets little attention because it is always rumoured for deprecation. It has never worked well
[19:29] <takuan> mcphail: who actually works on it?
[19:29] <Traumatizer> why´s ubuntu´s swappiness so high in the first place? It´s almost 60 while for 1GB+ its my understanding that something like 0-10 is better
[19:29] <mcphail> takuan: you'd need to check the kernel sources
[19:29] <lotuspsychje_> takuan: you can always make sugestions to #ubuntu-devel
[19:30] <lotuspsychje_> Traumatizer: default 60 is good for common systems without ssd
[19:30] <mcphail> Traumatizer: if you have a decent amount of RAM, just don't use swap (and, by implication, don't use hibernate)
[19:31] <Traumatizer> Ohh lotuspsychje, but if you have enough RAM why would you want to use swap at all?
[19:31] <Traumatizer> So wouldnt that make 60 too high for common systems
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> Traumatizer: every system is different, tweak as you need it
[19:31]  * mcphail has a swap partition but can't remember the last time his system ever used it
[19:32] <Traumatizer> I think mine uses it right now
[19:32] <Traumatizer> Im on a cracky dell laptop of 6 years old
[19:32] <mcphail> Traumatizer: I would rather have a process killed, than it using swap and bogging down my system
[19:33] <Traumatizer> I had this great idea of writing a standalone client for Google Docs in Python. So I created a project folder and wanted to write the first line but I have like no clue how to even begin. So that project is getting abondend before it even started haha
[19:34] <Traumatizer> Wrong channel; my bad.
[19:35] <qmas> buenas, alguien?
[19:37] <norman> hola ubuntu mate?
[19:37] <xangua> !es
[19:43] <Guest89159> km,m
[19:43] <Guest89159> l
[19:43] <Nokaji> When I shutdown/restart Ubuntu, am I supposed to unmount my drives first?
[19:44] <Guest89159> hej
[19:44] <Pici> Nokaji: no, the system does that for you.
[19:45] <Nokaji> Pici: okay, i uspected they would have said if necessary however I tried it and it was damn fast
[19:46] <Nokaji> hit bios screen in an instant, no signing off messages/screens
[19:47] <Nokaji> i reckon an auto script attached tot he restart button would speed things up
[20:02] <K4k> If I add "password_pbkdf2 dummy_user grub.pbkdf2.sha512.10000.XXXXXXX" etc. to my 40_custom file in grub.d I get "password_pbkdf2: not found"
[20:02] <Aleksandar86> somebody here can help me with Firebird server on Ubuntu?
[20:02] <xangua> !ask
[20:02] <joshua__> hello
[20:03] <xentity1x> Has anyone ever tried installing ubuntu on a chromebooK?
[20:03] <artois> yes
[20:03] <artois> hi josh
[20:03] <Pici> xentity1x: google's crouton project can do that
[20:03] <joshua__> i just installed ubuntu ; and i have windows 7 installed on this hard-drive ; when i start my cpu , i dont get any prompts to select an o.s ; it just says "mode not supported" on my monitor then boots directly to ubuntu ,
[20:03] <K4k> Anyone know if there's another file in grub.d that needs something added in order to allow grub pbkdf2 password protection to be enabled? I have done this before and I swear that all I have to do is add two lines to 40_custom but there must be something else because it's not working this time.
[20:04] <Pici> xentity1x: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
[20:04] <Pici> (or maybe not Google's, but whatever)
[20:04] <xentity1x> Pici, I'm more curious about the user experience. I'm wondering what it would be like to programming on it.
[20:04] <joshua__> can anyone direct me to any documents on how to fix this?
[20:04] <artois> crouton is the gimpy way
[20:04] <Aleksandar86> how can i see any opened port in local on Ubuntu?
[20:04] <Aleksandar86> some command like a netstat in windows?
[20:04] <Pici> xentity1x: it works fine for me. Theres some networking weirdness, but beyond that its just like a normal install.
[20:05] <k1l_> Aleksandar86: netstat is a unix command. just use that on ubuntu too
[20:05] <xentity1x> Pici, what kind of networking weirdness?
[20:05] <artois> xent, they're ordinary laptops
[20:05] <Pici> Aleksandar86: its called 'netstat' ;)  see netstat -tan  , or sudo netstat -tanp
[20:05] <xentity1x> Pici, also do you now if it will affect the battery life
[20:05] <Aleksandar86> netstat -a
[20:05] <Aleksandar86> ?
[20:05] <Aleksandar86> or?
[20:05] <artois> battery life is good, as they're designed for Linux
[20:05] <k1l_> Aleksandar86: "man netstat" will tell you all the options you would like
[20:06] <Aleksandar86> ok. tnx
[20:06] <Pici> xentity1x: its basically ubuntu in a chroot environment, so chromeos itself is taking care of the networking, and Ubuntu only sees part of it (or at least thats what it looked like, I didn't get it into it too much).  It worked just fine on wifi for me, and battery life is great.
[20:07] <artois> you can install gnu/linux to metal without crouton for some chromebooks
[20:07] <orbited> I just want to cheer for the ubuntu crowd. Finally I put my old PowerPC G4 to good use. Works like a charm.
[20:07] <xentity1x> Pici, ok think im going to buy one. What model do you have?
[20:08] <artois> xen, check the model can have its os replaced before buying
[20:08] <xentity1x> Pici, I was thinking about getting this http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Chromebook-12-Inch-Gigabit-Storage/dp/B00KGI4XBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438200457&sr=8-1&keywords=chromebook+32+gb
[20:08] <xentity1x> artois Picci, I'm looking for one that has half way decent specs
[20:09] <joshua__> welll , i just did sudo update-grub ; and i still cant access my windows partition ; it still just says mode not supported doesnt show any bios messages or anything and just boots directly to ubuntu
[20:09] <joshua__> this is driving me nuts i dont even know what to search for
[20:10] <Pici> xentity1x: I bought one of these: http://goo.gl/3GI6w0 it was fine for what I needed it for.
[20:10] <artois> josh, what says mode?
[20:10] <joshua__> my monitor
[20:11] <joshua__> i press the power button , my monitor hangs on "mode not supported" ; displays no bios msg's then boots directly to ubuntu ; i get no boot options
[20:11] <artois> okay, probably unrelated
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> joshua__  probably a screen resolution issue or so
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> in localhost on Ubuntu netstat say 3050 is openet port, but when i check from CLIENT this port is closed
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> what i wrom
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> *wrong
[20:12] <Aleksandar86> some firewall
[20:13] <Aleksandar86> this is firebird database port
[20:13] <joshua__> its been running fine untill now ; isnt the "screen resolution" set via software ; not my monitor
[20:13] <Aleksandar86> i want setup server on UBUNTU, and clients on WINDOWS
[20:14] <orbited> Aleksandar86: you could nmap from the client and see if the port is open?
[20:14] <artois> josh, the mode msg is not related
[20:14] <hgoswh> What is that linux program called that totally wipes your data clean without possibility of retreval?
[20:14] <Pici> orbited: thats not really a great solution as you can be listening for connections only from your local machine.
[20:14] <Aleksandar86> i try TELNET from windows 192.168.80.129:3050 (IP on UBUNTU) and say me is CLOSED
[20:15] <artois> hgoswh: dd
[20:15] <Pici> Aleksandar86: What does the line in netstat say? is it actually listening on 127.0.0.1, or is it listening on 0.0.0.0? or what?
[20:15] <Aleksandar86> but in local on Ubuntu say is opened
[20:15] <hgoswh> artois:
[20:15] <hgoswh> dd is the name?
[20:15] <artois> yes, pre-installed
[20:15] <TJ-> joshua__: that sounds like you may have an incorrect resolution defined for the GRUB boot-loader... see what "grep GRUB_GFX /etc/default/grub" reports
[20:15] <artois> dd if=/dev/zero of=becareful
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> joshua__  or even a refresh rate
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> (does that makre sense?)
[20:16] <Aleksandar86> 127.0.0.1:3050 LISTEN and 127.0.0.1:3050 ESTABILISHED
[20:16] <Aleksandar86> Pici
[20:16] <artois> he's trying to boot windows, guys
[20:16] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: so it's not listening on the LAN then
[20:16] <artois> not change his res
[20:17] <Pici> Aleksandar86: That means that only connections from your local machine can connect to that.  You'd need to modify your server's configuration to listen on all addresses.
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> my LAN ip on Ubuntu is 192.168.80.129
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> i can access on 80 port
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> from client
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> on Firebirdwebadmin
[20:17] <orbited> hgoswh Or use srm for files?
[20:17] <hgoswh> ok
[20:17] <joshua__> grub_gfxmode=640x480
[20:17] <joshua__>  grub_gfxmode=640x480
[20:17] <Aleksandar86> Pici please help me how?
[20:17] <joshua__> srry
[20:18] <Aleksandar86> please
[20:19] <TJ-> joshua__: OK, that isn't going to be out of range. When the PC powers on from cold do you see the firmware/BIOS messages/splash screen before the monitor reports bad mode?
[20:19] <joshua__> nope
[20:19] <joshua__> nothing
[20:20] <Pici> Aleksandar86: I'm not familiar with firebird. I don't know where it stores its configuration, its documentation should make this clear.
[20:20] <TJ-> joshua__: In that case there's something up with the monitor. Have you powered it fully off at the wall socket for a minute or so in case its got 'confused' ?
[20:20] <Aleksandar86> Pici i need find config and change localhost on 192.168.80.129 ?
[20:21] <Aleksandar86> firebird config
[20:21] <Pici> Aleksandar86: yes
[20:21] <TJ-> Aleksandar86: any process only listening on localhost a.k.a. 127.0.0.1 is *NOT* reachable from any other host!
[20:21] <joshua__> i had ubuntu and windows 7 both installed and running fine ; and today my cpu went to upgrade to windows 10 .. then stopped showing windows 7 when i bootedup .. so i reinstalled ubuntu thinking it would give me an option to boot my win7 and now i got this mess
[20:22] <Aleksandar86> Pici why i dont see port 192.168.80.129:80 in local ubuntu, but HTTP work prom clients?
[20:22] <Aleksandar86> apach i started
[20:23] <reisio> hgoswh: srm is overkill, but shred -n 1 is fine
[20:23] <Pici> Aleksandar86: because each service has its own confugration. Apache is listening your outside IP, but firebird is configured to only listen to inside connections.
[20:24] <Pici> Aleksandar86: this is normal, as often your applications runs locally, and there is no need to expose connections to your database to outside of your computer
[20:24] <reisio> hgoswh: shred -un 1 :)
[20:24] <skyofideas2015> hi I just got malware everytime I try to click on any link in chromium or firefox I get a popup that goes to ad-type.google.com/rot.aspx and then redirects to totalperformance
[20:24] <hgoswh> ok cool
[20:24] <hgoswh> thansk
[20:24] <skyofideas2015> when I checked  both browsers addons and plugins I find nothing
[20:24] <skyofideas2015> my home dir is encrypted and I even tried with clamscan and it also found nothing
[20:25] <wileee> skyofideas2015, clean it reset it, malware no.
[20:25] <skyofideas2015> ok
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> skyofideas2015  delete the hidden folder ~/.cache ... that should do
[20:25] <reisio> might want to mv ~/.cache first
[20:25] <reisio> instead of deleting
[20:25] <skyofideas2015> i did that with firefox
[20:25] <skyofideas2015> but nothing
[20:26] <wileee> skyofideas2015, Did what and to whom are you speaking?
[20:26] <skyofideas2015> I deleted ~/.cache/mozilla
[20:26] <reisio> mv next time :p
[20:27] <wileee> !who | skyofideas2015 try to always
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> skyofideas2015  try moving or deleting the complete .cache folder
[20:27] <skyofideas2015> ok
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> firebird manual say config is in OPT ubuntu folder
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> but i dont see any file in this folder
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> im on root
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> in terminal
[20:27] <reisio> Aleksandar86: dpkg -L firebird | less
[20:29] <Aleksandar86> resio, what is  | less?
[20:30] <reisio> Aleksandar86: | is a pipe, less is a pager, both of which you'll use a lot once you know about them
[20:31] <K4k> !single
[20:31] <reisio> Aleksandar86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_(Unix) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_pager
[20:31] <wileee> K4k, Whatcha looking for?
[20:31] <K4k> single user mode
[20:31] <reisio> Aleksandar86: also if you type r-e-i then hit tab, probably even in mIRC, it will complete my nickname for you
[20:32] <K4k> I tried adding "single" to the end of the boot line in grub but it just sits at a black screen
[20:32] <wileee> K4k, You have any link to that methodology?
[20:32] <skyofideas2015> MonkeyDust that didn't work
[20:32] <k1l_> K4k: "text"
[20:32] <K4k> k1l_: thanks
[20:33] <K4k> wileee: was trying: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[20:33] <K4k> I've foobar'd something in pam and need to get in to root without a password prompt to correct it
[20:34] <wileee> K4k, Thanks never heard that wording for a text boot, carry on. ;)
[20:34] <k1l_> K4k: then you want the recovery boot
[20:37] <K4k> k1l_: I think that did it, thanks
[20:42] <anonymous_> calling any and all anonymous
[20:43] <reisio> anonymous_: #phones
[20:43] <anonymous_> lol
[20:44]  * wileee thinks of Lilly Tomlin as the operator
[20:44] <reisio> heh
[20:44] <anonymous_> so do you know any good places to practise hacking
[20:45] <jozhua> this is becoming highly frustrating ; no bios screen , no boot options , just directly to ubuntu ,  ive searched and searched - boot repair / grub update etc etc..
[20:45] <wileee> jozhua, Single or dualboot?
[20:45] <k1l_> anonymous_: you mean illegal cracking, and that is, obviously, not support in the ubuntu community or the freenode network.
[20:46] <anonymous_> idk what single or duelboot is im new to the comunity
[20:46] <jozhua> well its single now haha.. i have win7 on here ,
[20:46] <reisio> anonymous_: anyplace
[20:46] <jozhua> but i have no options for anything
[20:46] <reisio> jozhua: nick change?
[20:46] <tgm4883> anonymous_: 127.0.0.1
[20:47] <jozhua> reisio, that nick was registered ; and i rebooted
[20:47] <anonymous_> i have alot of tools idk how to use most of them
[20:47] <reisio> mmm
[20:47] <wileee> jozhua, Let us know if we can help. ;)
[20:47] <reisio> joz is harder to type
[20:47] <reisio> anonymous_: man up
[20:47] <jozhua> ive tried so many diff. things del , f11 , f2 , still cant see my bios messages , nor can i get a boot menu
[20:47] <reisio> jozhua: pastebin /etc/fstab and the output of sudo lsblk -f
[20:47] <reisio> jozhua: and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:47] <reisio> jozhua: nevermind fstab :)
[20:48] <K4k> How about this one. Running `update-grub` produces "sed: -e expression #1, char 7: unknown option to `s'"
[20:48] <K4k> I've not modified any sed lines to my knowledge
[20:48] <anonymous_> anyone know of anonymous os
[20:48] <EriC^^> jozhua: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link
[20:49] <k1l_> anonymous_: this is ubuntu only support. for chat there is ##chat as channel
[20:49] <jozhua>  http://pastebin.com/6HuRSqta
[20:50] <reisio> jozhua: sudo lsblk -f
[20:51] <anonymous_> anonymous os is ubuntu
[20:51] <nicomachus> no it's not.
[20:51] <jozhua> i dont know what those commands are and i dont really want to run them as root if im not sure what they do ;/
[20:51] <TJ-> jozhua: does the PC have multi monitors by any chance?
[20:51] <k1l_> anonymous_: its offtopic in here.
[20:51] <jozhua> next youll have me sudo rm -rf /
[20:51] <jozhua> tj nah its just one monitor
[20:51] <reisio> jozhua: it just prints information about your partitions
[20:51] <reisio> jozhua: lsblk -f without root if you want
[20:51] <wileee> jozhua, This channel has everyone watching, per reviewed.
[20:51] <tgm4883> !danger
[20:51] <reisio> root does almost the same thing
[20:51] <k1l_> jozhua: we dont do that malicious commands in here.
[20:51] <wileee> peer*
[20:51] <EriC^^> jozhua: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 , read the above ^
[20:51] <tgm4883> jozhua: don't post those commands in here
[20:52] <TJ-> jozhua: does the PC have multiple monitor outputs? I've seen this happen where the monitor is *not* connected to the Primary monitor so nothing 'appears' until the OS starts
[20:52] <reisio> jozhua: command you said wouldn't do anything anyway
[20:52] <reisio> not that your point isn't taken
[20:52] <TJ-> s/Primary monitor/Primary Output/
[20:52] <jozhua> tj yes i have 2
[20:53] <jozhua> reisio, what ouput did you want from lsblk -f
[20:53] <jozhua> i have fd0 and sda
[20:53] <TJ-> jozhua: The BIOS will have one of those outputs as it's primary... I'm wondering if the monitor has been accidentally connected to the Secondary instead
[20:53] <reisio> jozhua: all of it, with sudo
[20:53] <jozhua> reisio, paste bin it?
[20:54] <reisio> please
[20:54] <jozhua> TJ-, my monitor is hdmi ; only one video card has hdmi ouputs
[20:54] <tgm4883> jozhua: what is the other video card?
[20:54] <TJ-> jozhua: was the monitor working in the current configuration at BIOS POST time prior to the apt-get update you did?
[20:55] <jozhua> http://pastebin.com/wNKcY8br
[20:55] <jozhua> tj ; yah everything was working fine earlier today
[20:55] <jozhua> i have a built in video card that i can connect with normal vga connections to my monitor
[20:55] <EriC^^> jozhua: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub ?
[20:56] <TJ-> jozhua: I strongly suspect this is what has happened - do you have a VGA monitor you can hook up to test the other connections?
[20:56] <TJ-> jozhua: as you don't get any monitor output at power-on BIOS POST time there's nothing the operating system can do to influence that
[20:57] <jozhua> http://pastebin.com/b5CCHJbB
[20:57] <TJ-> jozhua: Possibly, the BIOS setup config has a primary-monitor option, which has somehow reset itself to another output
[20:57] <jozhua> sure i can hook up the monitor via vga
[20:57] <TJ-> jozhua: That'd be my first move in this situation
[20:58] <jozhua> and EriC^^ http://termbin.com/eyli
[20:59] <EriC^^> jozhua: it looks good, grub is set to show and it has a menu entry for windows
[20:59] <jozhua> tj- everything was working grand earlier today , i tried to upgrade my windows from 7 to the new 10 ; and rebooted the computer before it was finished doing whatever , then it wouldnt show me a windows 7 option on boot , so i removed my old install of ubuntu ; formatted and reinstalled ubuntu , thinking that it would install a boot loader pointing to my windows 7 partition , but now it just left me with the black screen , no bios ms
[20:59] <jozhua> g's , no boot options.. and ubuntu
[21:00] <EriC^^> i bet if you press the down arrow during those 10seconds it'll boot windows if you hit it
[21:00] <jozhua> ok ,
[21:00] <jozhua> im gonna swith the monitor around , and reboot
[21:00] <jozhua> ill be back one way or the other Lord willing..
[21:01] <wileee> did not know the lord was a coder
[21:03] <Nokaji> the lord spoke in riddles
[21:03] <EriC^^> sudo create universe
[21:03] <wileee> heh, mmmm intelligent design
[21:04] <nicomachus> lol
[21:04] <reisio> ...
[21:04] <reisio> monitor has nothing to do with Windows booting or not
[21:04] <reisio> I mean, nothing at all
[21:04] <reisio> zero
[21:04]  * reisio shakes head
[21:06] <rem_> ya du monde ici ?
[21:06] <EriC^^> !fr | rem_
[21:06] <rem_> ok sorry eng only
[21:09] <Aleksandar86> how can i get access from all inside 2.5  sudo chown username /vir/lib/Firebird/2.5
[21:09] <Aleksandar86> ???
[21:09] <jozhua>   tj ; it was totally the monitor
[21:09] <TJ-> reisio: did you miss the part where Joshua said there's *no* monitor signal from power-on, which means BIOS POST isn't being displayed... which suggests the primary output has been changed according to the BIOS
[21:09] <TJ-> jozhua: Thought it would be, it had to be, due to the no-signal during POST
[21:10] <jozhua> ive spent hours tinkering with this thing , and all i had to do was unplug the monitor and plug it back in
[21:10] <jozhua> sheesh
[21:10] <TJ-> jozhua: now you can get into the BIOS Setup, reboot, and look in the BIOS setup for an option that controls selection of the Primary video output
[21:11] <jozhua> thanks a ton , well out of all this - atleest i upgraded my version of ubuntu , heh
[21:11] <TJ-> jozhua: hang on, you just unplugged/replugged the HDMI? That's the same monitor you powered off at the wall ? In which case you had an intermittent connection on the HDMI cable itself, or to be exact the connectors at either end
[21:12] <jozhua> tj ; yah i just unplugged it from my computer then plugged it back in
[21:13] <jozhua> and thats the same monitor
[21:13] <TJ-> jozhua: Always check the cables first... second.... and thrid :)
[21:13] <TJ-> jozhua: OK, so not even a changed-primary-output issue :)
[21:14] <jozhua> so my hdmi cable may be bad?
[21:15] <Aleksandar86> how can i find firebird.conf, any idea to search all folders in ubuntu
[21:15] <Aleksandar86> ?
[21:15] <k1l_> Aleksandar86: how did you install firebird?
[21:15] <EriC^^> sudo updatedb && locate firebird.conf
[21:16] <TJ-> jozhua: I'd bet you had pulled a connector almost completely out so 1 data line was intermittent. unplug/replug and it goes back in firmly
[21:16] <reisio> TJ-: no I just ignored it, he said Ubuntu worked fine and Windows doesn't
[21:16] <reisio> ergo monitor irrelevant
[21:17] <reisio> jozhua: does Ubuntu work or not?
[21:17] <Aleksandar86> i found from gui search in /etc/firebird
[21:17] <TJ-> mode selection, especially data rates, can exhibit this kind of symptom. I've seen it with DVI-D as well with wobbly connectors
[21:17] <arooni-mobile> id like to edit a python pomodoro app to have slightly differnt behavior.  where are the the binary looks like its in /usr/bin/tomate ;;; but where are the other files installed to typically?
[21:17] <Aleksandar86> this is file where i need add IP for outside access
[21:19] <jozhua> reisio: yah
[21:19] <jozhua> everything is fine again
[21:20] <broman> hi! can anyone help me?? just installed fresh smarty application (on apache) on ubuntu but it doesn't seem to work after first page!
[21:21] <daftykins> broman: details?
[21:23] <broman> daftykins, i have apache installed and configured running ok... i installed a smarty app (php with smarty framework)...
[21:23] <daftykins> broman: right but the "doesn't work after first page"
[21:23] <broman> daftykins, i can access the first page (index.php).. but after that, everything returns me 404
[21:23] <broman> all the links
[21:23] <broman> 404
[21:23] <daftykins> sounds like a lack of common apache modules such as rewrite being enabled
[21:23] <daftykins> read your logs to discover
[21:24] <broman> daftykins, i read error.log and nothing shows up there
[21:24] <broman> daftykins, what other log files should i read?
[21:24] <daftykins> all the apache ones
[21:24] <daftykins> perhaps there's even a channel for this framework you speak of?
[21:25] <broman> daftykins, yes.. there is.. I am already on it and it has 20 users
[21:25] <daftykins> ok, well no harm in checking
[21:25] <skinny> nadie habla espanol?
[21:25] <k1l_> !es  | skinny
[21:30] <LewsTherin> Anyone have recommended specs for a mailserver with dovecot, postfix, squirrelmail and a user management UI? Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:30] <LewsTherin> THis machine will be running in a VM, as well.
[21:36] <wad> Looking at ubuntu.com. Is there going to be a version 15 LTS at some point? Thinking about upgrading my 12.04 LTS.
[21:37] <tgm4883> wad: no
[21:37] <tgm4883> wad: LTS releases are in april of even numbered years
[21:37] <wad> Ah, okay.
[21:37] <tgm4883> wad: so 12.04, 14.04, 16.04
[21:37] <daftykins> wad: 16.04 next
[21:37] <wad> got it, thanks.
[21:37] <Bashing-om> wad: The next LTS will be 16.04 .
[21:37] <k1l_> wad: you can upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 on the LTS path
[21:38] <wad> So I should bump it up to 14.04 then.
[21:38] <daftykins> LewsTherin: start with two core and 2GB RAM at least i'd say, maybe try #ubuntu-server for those that use such things more often
[21:38] <LewsTherin> Will do (ツ)
[21:38] <tonyyarusso> wad: To expand on k1l_'s answer, what that means is that you can go *directly* from 12.04 to 14.04 - you don't have to go through 12.10, 13.04, and 13.10 along the way.
[21:38] <wad> So this box hosts websites, runs postfix, runs minecraft servers, stuff like that. How scared should I be of doing a dist-upgrade?
[21:39] <wad> tonyyarusso, perfect, thanks!
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> wad: The one BIG thing I know of is that there were changes to the syntax for allow/deny in Apache 2.4, so you will need to be prepared for some downtime during the upgrade and then to edit all of your vhosts with the new syntax.  Postfix I think upgrades fine.
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> (Assuming your web sites are Apache)
[21:40] <wad> Ah, good to know!
[21:40] <wad> Yes, they are.
[21:40]  * wad takes notes
[21:40] <k1l_> make backups before murphys law strikes back :)
[21:40] <tonyyarusso> It's a very easy change to make, but you'll want to Google it beforehand rather than spending hours wondering why the heck your sites all say access denied :)
[21:40] <wad> Of course!
[21:41] <wad> yep
[21:41] <wad> I have a handful of virtual hosts on it.
[21:41] <wad> Probably pre-make all the config changes and have them handy.
[21:43] <wad> Hmm... other stuff I have on it: mysql, php, and mediawiki, gallery2...
[21:43] <tonyyarusso> All out of the repos or installed by hand?
[21:43] <wad> repos
[21:44] <tonyyarusso> There might be a change in PHP stuff too, but I'm not sure it's really noticable.
[21:44]  * wad nods
[21:45] <usuario> ola
[21:46] <usuario> ola  ROO
[21:46] <k1l_> hi
[21:46] <usuario> chat
[21:48] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[21:49] <HikaruBG> I need to run a nodejs server on a remote ubuntu server. I am able to start that from an ssh console, but in the moment I disconnect the server is down.
[21:50] <HikaruBG> How to do that?
[21:50] <k1l_> use screen?
[21:50] <k1l_> or start it as a server daemon?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust>   I was thinking the same
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> screen, that is
[21:51] <HikaruBG> how to do that? :) sorry for the dumb question
[21:51] <HikaruBG> :)
[21:51] <k1l_> !screen | HikaruBG
[21:52] <k1l_> HikaruBG: but programs that are meant to run as servers should have a daemon mode, imho
[21:52] <Jamie_1> hey my ubuntu is have a problem displaying the tops of windows and the terminal. When the windows is not full screen the top bar of the window is just black, also the terminal is black and i cannot do anything with it. At the same time when i got to use something that has a hover over feature for more info the little window from the hover over is black along with when i get a notification.
[21:53] <HikaruBG> k1l_, how to create a deamon then?
[21:53] <HikaruBG> daemon*
[21:53] <k1l_> HikaruBG: dont know nodejs, sorry.
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> HikaruBG  ssh to the remote server and run screen, then execute any command ... disconnect ssh and reconnect using ssh user@ip -t screen -dr
[21:54] <HikaruBG> k1l_, how to run a process or a command as a daemon. Node JS server starts simple. $node server.js    and it is on
[21:55] <HikaruBG> MonkeyDust, thanks. Can you also guide me in making a server daemon?
[21:55] <Jamie_1> Any ideas on how to solve that?
[21:55] <k1l_> HikaruBG: as i said: i am not familiar with nodejs. but other server programs like apache etc have daemon modes that run in the background automatically.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> HikaruBG  no, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[21:56] <HikaruBG> OK Thanks! :) I am off to #ubuntu-server
[21:57] <K4k> I just tried to swap my lightdm greeter from unity-greeter to lightdm-webkit-greeter and it didn't work so I switched back but now lightdm comes up to a blank screen with a blinking cursor. Can someone help me figure out what's going on. There is an error on the screen at boot that flashes up but it doesn't stay up long enough for me to read it.
[21:58] <K4k> hmmm, actually, the error seems to have gone away but it now goes to a screen saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode"
[22:01] <Jamie_1> K4k: can you get into the tty?
[22:01] <wileee> Jamie_1, Can you check the guest account or make another to confirm this is your work?
[22:01] <K4k> Jamie_1: yes, that's where I've been poking around trying to see what's up
[22:01] <Jamie_1> wileee: already have
[22:01] <Jamie_1> k4
[22:01] <K4k> I already restored my lightdm.conf file
[22:01] <wileee> Jamie_1, And?
[22:01] <Jamie_1> K4k: go into the tty and revert to config old
[22:02] <Jamie_1> wileee: no repo
[22:02] <Jamie_1> *repro
[22:02] <wileee> Jamie_1, no repo?
[22:02] <Jamie_1> wileee: sorry said that wrong.... no i could repro
[22:02] <K4k> Jamie_1: unfortunately I've already done that. Also run dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and removed lightdm-gtk-greeter and lightdm-webkit-greeter with apt-get purge
[22:03] <wileee> Jamie_1, You must not really need help. ;)
[22:03] <Jamie_1> K4k: have you tried cd ~ mv .config .configold
[22:03] <K4k> no
[22:03] <K4k> let me try that
[22:03] <K4k> (though I'm logged in as root, if that makes any difference)
[22:03] <Jamie_1> well if you are not root you have to run it as sudo
[22:03] <EriC^^> it does
[22:03] <Jamie_1> K4k: just do
[22:03] <Jamie_1> cd ~
[22:04] <EriC^^> cd ~ might take you to /root if you used sudo -i
[22:04] <K4k> No, I actually have a root user on this system
[22:04] <Jamie_1> EriC^^: that is what you want to rest the config files
[22:04] <K4k> But that's besides the point
[22:05] <EriC^^> isn't he trying to rename the config files in his home dir?
[22:05] <Jamie_1> well K4k just do root or su and run
[22:05] <K4k> Jamie_1: I moved ~/.config to ~/.config.bak, no dice
[22:05] <Jamie_1> K4k: what did it say?
[22:05] <K4k> what did what say?
[22:05] <Jamie_1> wileee: any ideas?
[22:05] <Jamie_1> K4k: did it return anything or did it just allow the command to pass
[22:05] <szronik> I have apport taking up 10-15% of CPU cycles and can't kill it. I've found that it's used to intercept crashes, and if it is, I can't figure out what's crashing. Can anyone help?
[22:06] <K4k> Jamie_1: the mv command?
[22:06] <Jamie_1> and K4k no... mv .config .configold
[22:06] <K4k> that worked fine
[22:06] <Jamie_1> that is what you want not bak
[22:07] <szronik> Okay, seems to be systemd-logind
[22:07] <Jamie_1> wileee: i mean any ideas on how to fix what is going on with the system?? do you think a change of dm might do it?
[22:07] <EriC^^> K4k: after you login you get a blank screen?
[22:07] <K4k> EriC^^: No, I think there's been a misunderstanding in my original issue. Lightdm literally won't even start
[22:07] <EriC^^> ok, seems like a graphics driver issue
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> szronik  sudo -e /etc/default/apport ... set enabled to 0
[22:07] <Jamie_1> K4k: i had the problem about 6 months ago twice and that solved the problem
[22:08] <EriC^^> did you install anything?
[22:08] <szronik> MonkeyDust: systemd-logind keeps respawning, so says syslog
[22:08] <K4k> EriC^^: I installed lightdm-webkit-greeter, swapped the greeter session in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and ran `service lightdm restart`
[22:08] <szronik> MonkeyDust: I did a apt-get upgrade earlier today
[22:08] <K4k> it restarted lightdm but to a black screen
[22:09] <K4k> I swapped it back
[22:09] <K4k> and no change
[22:09] <EriC^^> K4k: are you sure about lightdm.conf? can you pastebin /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
[22:09] <K4k> Sure
[22:09] <K4k> sec
[22:09] <K4k> EriC^^: what's the preferred pastebin here?
[22:09] <EriC^^> paste.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <szronik> I think I'll reboot
[22:09] <Jamie_1> oh... did anyone see the question i asked above?
[22:10] <K4k> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11962558/
[22:11] <Jamie_1> screw it im just gonna change dm and hope it might fix the problem
[22:11] <EriC^^> K4k: ok, try ls /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/
[22:11] <K4k> EriC^^: there are 5 files
[22:12] <K4k> I don't recall modifying these
[22:12] <EriC^^> any greeter files?
[22:13] <EriC^^> K4k: try sudo mv /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf{,.old}
[22:13] <K4k> EriC^^: no better
[22:14] <EriC^^> K4k: can you pastebin ls /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d ?
[22:14] <K4k> EriC^^: Oh, another thing. I did change one boolean in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.unity-greeter.gschema.xml and run glib-compile-schema /usr/share/glib-2.0/schema/
[22:14]  * K4k smiles sheepishly
[22:15] <K4k> Perhaps purging the unity-greeter and re-installing it would fix something if that was a bad idea?
[22:15] <EriC^^> don't purge it, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm unity-greeter
[22:16] <wish^^> Is there a remote desktop application for ubuntu that lets me access my work desktop from home and from my laptop?
[22:16] <EriC^^> also pastebin ls /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[22:16] <rafaelxiques> me acabo de conectar. Alguna novedad?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> !br
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> wish^^  is it windows or linux at work?
[22:17] <wish^^> Im on ubuntu at work and on my laptop and im on windows at home
[22:18] <K4k> EriC^^: reinstalling unity-greeter fixed it...
[22:18] <K4k> I guess I broke something with glib-compile-schemas
[22:18] <JustSighDudes> Hi guys, my install is suddenly really slw Any ideas what's going on? I've formatted it 2 days ago
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> K4k  so you need a windows program?
[22:18] <EriC^^> K4k: ok
[22:19] <JustSighDudes> Running 15.04, plenty of free ram
[22:19] <wileee> JustSighDudes, Install htop and look at what is running and eating the speed.
[22:19] <wish^^> MonkeyDust: no
[22:20] <JustSighDudes> Nothing. Highest CPU use is compiz at 0.4%
[22:20] <JustSighDudes> wileee, ^
[22:20] <wileee> JustSighDudes, using what measurement?
[22:21] <wileee> what app is this from
[22:21] <JustSighDudes> wileee, htop this is CPU
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> wish^^  you say you have windows at home and that you want to connect to your work
[22:21] <wileee> JustSighDudes, You have scrolled all the way to the bottom?
[22:22] <JustSighDudes> wileee, i's sorted by CPU
[22:23] <wish^^> MonkeyDust, i need to set up a VNC i guess
[22:23] <Jamie_1> ugh... is there any way to force update to 14.10 even know its not supported anymore?
[22:23] <wileee> JustSighDudes, I would not sort it read it all, honestly you have no info to work with, we don't do miracles. ;)
[22:24] <JustSighDudes> wileee, I did scroll all the way to the bottom just to make sure. Nothing is higher than 0.5% percent
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> !vnc | wish^^ ok, start here
[22:24] <JustSighDudes> wileee,  And the bars at the top showing the cores are all at 0.5% and lower
[22:24] <wish^^> ty MonkeyDust
[22:24] <wish^^> it is 100mbit at work and 50 at home
[22:24] <tonyyarusso> Jamie_1: Step 1) Why do you want to?
[22:24] <Jamie_1> tonyyarusso: hoping it will solve the problems i have been having
[22:25] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: Have you monitored the kernel log for signs of I/O errors?
[22:25] <JustSighDudes> wileee, I feel like it's a rendering issue not a processing issue, but don't know how to debug that
[22:25] <Jamie_1> 5:52:27 PM - Jamie_1: hey my ubuntu is have a problem displaying the tops of windows and the terminal. When the windows is not full screen the top bar of the window is just black, also the terminal is black and i cannot do anything with it. At the same time when i got to use something that has a hover over feature for more info the little window from the hover over is black along with when i get a notification.
[22:25] <JustSighDudes> TJ- where would I find that log? is that syslog? Cuz there's nothing in there or dmesg
[22:25] <wileee> JustSighDudes, I can't help with this. ;)
[22:25] <tonyyarusso> Jamie_1: ah.  I have no idea how do-release-upgrade handles them, if at all, but the repositories at least used to be kept around on old-releases.ubuntu.com, so you might be able to pull it off with that.
[22:25] <Bashing-om> wileee: You have done so much, for so long, with so little; You are now qualified to do anything with nothing !
[22:25] <JustSighDudes> wileee, No worries. Thanks for trying.
[22:26] <wileee> lol Bashing-om
[22:26] <Jamie_1> tonyyarusso: i had to use a net install to get this on here....
[22:26] <szronik> I have Ubuntu Server running on a PowerPC machine. If the machine dies on me, I'd like to be able to move all of the settings to a x86/x86-64 machine. What's the best way for me to do that?
[22:26] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: "/var/log/kern.log" ius the ongoing kernel log. dmesg is mainly boot-time only
[22:27] <wileee> JustSighDudes, No problem, don't want to drag around what other helpers can cover.
[22:27] <Jamie_1> tonyyarusso: the only reason i want to is it seems no one knows how to solve this stupid problem...
[22:27] <Jamie_1> not saying its easy... its just a pain in my f*** A**
[22:28] <Jamie_1> and i dont feel like going through installing all over again and putting everything back on
[22:28] <JustSighDudes> wileee, appreciated, way better than suddenly not replying.
[22:28] <JustSighDudes> TJ- nothing there.
[22:28] <wileee> ;)
[22:28] <Jamie_1> so it seems i am just gonna run on a f****D up version of Ubuntu gnome
[22:30] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: can you describe how it feels 'slow' - what actions do you perform and what are your expectations vs what happens... how slow is slow (e.g. 5 seconds instead of 1 second expectation)
[22:30] <JustSighDudes> TJ-, I should mention ALT-Tab is lightening fast. But when I'm typing the letters take a while to show up
[22:31] <JustSighDudes> TJ-, and terminal output takes a bit to refresh
[22:31] <JustSighDudes> TJ-, even opening a new tab in chrome is fast. But typing the URL is slow. And videos play choppy
[22:31] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I had XP and ubuntu on my laptop. I installed Win 7, and now it does not give me the option to boot into ubuntu at start-up. Anyone know how I can fix that?
[22:32] <teward> t0ntin: boot to a livecd and run boot-repair
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> t0ntin  the windows installation ruined grub
[22:32] <teward> t0ntin: the problem is Windows torched grub
[22:32] <teward> that's not hard to fix
[22:32] <JustSighDudes> t0ntin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:33] <t0ntin> teward, I will try that. Thanks.
[22:35] <wileee> t0ntin, If you use the bootrepiar app save the bootinfo summary url.
[22:35] <t0ntin> ok
[22:44] <wad> Wish me luck. Upgrading my VPS from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS.
[22:44] <wileee> JustSighDudes, Only thing that has come to mind is that the latest kernel updates has caused some issues, you might try a previous on in grub.
[22:44] <SuperFAM> hello
[22:44] <reisio> 'lo
[22:44] <wileee> JustSighDudes, I saw the no errors you posted.
[22:46] <JustSighDudes> wileee, will try now
[22:46] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: OK, I know where to look now. You've got an input device problem. I've seen that with PS/2 style i8042 keyboard inputs
[22:47] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[22:47] <wileee> JustSighDudes, However TJ- is excellent help, folow their lead.
[22:49] <TJ-> JustSighDudes: I'm suspecting you'll need something like "i8042.nomux" on the kernel command line, but lets wait and see what devices the PC has first
[22:50] <wileee> good find TJ- ; )
[22:50] <SuperFAM> hey, quick question. does anybody know how to clear the scrollback history on the gnome terminal in ubuntu?
[22:50] <daftykins> SuperFAM: of commands? the bash history file
[22:50] <bekks> SuperFAM: Why would you want to do that?
[22:51] <TJ-> wileee: I've seen it several times before. there are several i8042 workarounds depending on the exact nature of the issue
[22:51] <SuperFAM> no i mean like, the stuff you would see displayed
[22:51] <SuperFAM> so if i used clear
[22:51] <SuperFAM> like that, but i can't scroll back anymore
[22:51] <daftykins> close and re-open
[22:51] <SuperFAM> that's the only way? :|
[22:52] <daftykins> only one i know, maybe don't do things you want to hide :)
[22:52] <Nytram> LOL
[22:52] <SuperFAM> no reason to hide anything, haha. i just like a clean window
[22:52] <bekks> Things seen cannot be unseen.
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> SuperFAM  rm ~/.bash_history
[22:52] <TJ-> SuperFAM: "tput reset"
[22:53] <wileee> TJ-, Heh, I learn here everyday.
[22:53] <Nytram> I still haven't learned WHY one would want to do that. But HEY. we can do it anyway. 8)
[22:54] <reisio> SuperFAM: also, 'help history'
[22:55] <SuperFAM> TJ: thanks!
[22:55] <reisio> oh that
[22:56] <reisio> CTRL+l :)
[22:56] <bekks> reisio++ :)
[22:56] <reisio> bekks++
[22:56] <reisio> AHAHAHAHAH infinite karma
[22:57] <bekks> reisio++ ;)
[22:57] <wileee> ohm mana padmee ohm (phonetically)
[22:57] <reisio> while(true): do bekks++; done
[22:57] <Nytram> Erk! Love orgy ensues... time to go.
[22:59] <bekks> reisio: for(;;); do reisio++; done
[23:00] <TJ-> syntax error near unexpected token `('
[23:00] <bekks> reisio: for((;;)); do reisio++; done
[23:01] <reisio> yes bekks++
[23:01] <wileee> This reminds of the Large Hadron physicists do a rap at a local bar with unix commands
[23:02] <wileee> doing*
[23:02] <TJ-> reisio++: command not found  :P
[23:02] <reisio> not my fault there's no karma bot
[23:02] <reisio> we'll just have to keep track in our heads
[23:02] <reisio> :p
[23:02] <TJ-> reisio: Your karma is the number to the left of your nickname :)
[23:03] <bekks> 730010350 for me, currently. :)
[23:03] <bekks> Noooooooo!
[23:04] <bekks> Off by one fail :(
[23:05] <reisio> my karma is 16:05:38
[23:05] <reisio> whoops 16:06:06
[23:05] <reisio> whoops
[23:06] <reisio> snap, joke already done
[23:06] <TJ-> Mine just went from 2359 to 0 :(
[23:06] <Oblivion> ^ what you guys chatting about?
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Oblivion  this is the ubuntu support channel
[23:08] <Oblivion> MonkeyDust really?
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> Oblivion  type   /topic
[23:09] <Oblivion> MonkeyDust sorry thought Id joined @nontm0s
[23:09] <Oblivion> *@nonym0s
[23:11] <frew> anyone know why dbus would not be running on 12.04?
[23:11] <frew> w/o dbus I can't start upstart services :/
[23:11] <Oblivion> !how much of ubuntu is still based on debian
[23:12] <Oblivion> !how long have I not used IRC lol
[23:12] <marcin___> z
[23:12] <Oblivion> frew dbus should be running
[23:13] <Oblivion> 12.04 uses upsatrt ?
[23:13] <frew> Oblivion: ... yes that's why I'm asking why it woudln't be
[23:13] <frew> start: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[23:13] <Oblivion> frew it should be running defo
[23:14] <Oblivion> frew is that starting dbus daemon?
[23:14] <bojano> z
[23:14] <frew> that's me trying to start some other service
[23:14] <Oblivion> frew start dbus
[23:14] <frew> well that won't work: start: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[23:14] <frew> :)
[23:15] <shine_> Man, I have this situation ... I have something I *just need to get done* -- unfortunately, this topic is extreeemely complicated for me. So, I've tried to boil down what is already pretty simple information on the topic, into even simpler information on the topic.  The Source info is : http://askubuntu.com/questions/461135/copy-mp4-files-to-dvd     And my, simpler, version is : http://pastebin.com/ZuHFZMNq     Could anyone check it out
[23:15] <shine_> see if what I wrote makes sense? Based on my paste, am I understanding this process correctly?  Please don't confuse me by making it more complicated though.
[23:15] <Oblivion> frew whats in  /var/run/dbus/
[23:15] <bojano> z
[23:15] <frew> Oblivion: there's no dbus directory in /var/run
[23:15] <Oblivion> frew what about ps aux | grep dbus
[23:16] <frew> nada
[23:16] <frew> (except for grep itself)
[23:16] <Oblivion> frew and dpkg --list | grep dbus
[23:16] <frew> I have dbus, dbus-x11, and a few libs installed
[23:16] <frew> I wonder if I am somehow in a lower runlevel?
[23:16] <frew> this is a vm
[23:17] <Oblivion> frew anything in /var/sys/sublock for dbus?
[23:17] <frew> I don't have a /var/sys?
[23:17] <Oblivion> frew yeah what RL you in 3 or 5?
[23:17] <frew> RL?
[23:18] <Oblivion> frew run level
[23:18] <frew> I'm not sure
[23:18] <frew> how can I check?
[23:18] <frew> I wish init (upstart) put the runlevel in it's args or something
[23:18] <Oblivion> frew type runlevel
[23:18] <frew> lol
[23:18] <frew> unknown
[23:19]  * frew straces runlevel
[23:19] <shine_> How bout I just pay someone to do the job for me? What would that be worth to someone?
[23:19] <Oblivion> frew might be worth rebooting , I dont like windows fixes but something looks screwed
[23:20] <daftykins> shine_: inappropriate here.
[23:20] <Oblivion> frew or restarting , is it lightdm on Ubuntu (with unity)?
[23:20] <frew> it's headless
[23:20] <Oblivion> * restarting lightdm
[23:20] <frew> server
[23:21] <Oblivion> frew headless shouldnt need dbus what you trying to run?
[23:21] <frew> if you run an upstart service it needs dbus
[23:21] <frew> and I'm trying to run an upstart service (one of our services)
[23:21] <daftykins> shine_: the word you're looking for, for step #1 is 'transcode' depending on codecs in use
[23:22] <Oblivion> frew iirc dbus is only needed for X apps
[23:22] <frew> I wish you were right
[23:22] <frew> but start actually uses dbus to tell upstart to start the service
[23:22] <frew> watch:
[23:23] <Oblivion> frew yeah upstart, sytemd causinf me new problems, why we couldnt stay with system V init
[23:23] <frew> heh
[23:23] <frew> well
[23:24] <frew> I'm fine with new stuff
[23:24] <frew> it' sjust a bummer to be in the middle
[23:24] <frew> I feel like learning about this upstart stuff is a waste of time now that it's abandoned more or less
[23:24] <shine_> I feel like I need a stinkin' 4 yr degree to pull something like this off - and, well, it's not that it isn't worth it to me - it's infinately worth it - just maybe not worth my time doing it (by the time I figure it out It'll be 10 years from now and cases of wasted dvds later).
[23:24] <Oblivion> frew yeah is it 15.04 >+ that ship with systemd?
[23:24] <shine_> daftykins: thx
[23:24] <frew> yes
[23:24] <frew> so my laptop actually is running systemd
[23:24] <frew> and I haven't had any issues, fwiw
[23:25] <Oblivion> frew luckily I mostly work with CentOS servers
[23:25] <frew> but 14.04 will be around for a long time
[23:25] <frew> so I guess I'm stuck with upstart for quite a while
[23:25] <frew> CentOS uses sysv I guess?
[23:26] <microhaxo> guys, i just installed ubuntu and for some reason on the desktop i have a huge cursor?
[23:26] <frew> Oblivion: it looks like 2 is my default runlevel?
[23:26] <reisio> Fedora is using systemd, so CentOS will be using it eventually if not already
[23:26] <Oblivion> CentOs from 7 uses systemd ^ <= use sys v init still
[23:28] <Oblivion> frew Yeah Im running xubuntu here mines the same, this is where I get angry lol why Debian/Ubuntu do everything different, run level 2 is reserved in RHL
[23:28] <Oblivion> frew im in X though
[23:29] <frew> on my host I'm in ubuntu and my RL is 5
[23:29] <shine_> daftykins: do you know, does the starting file (mp4 in my case) have to be a single file or can it be multiple files to one dvd?
[23:29] <Oblivion> frew so that sounds like the propblem the run levels are misconfigured possibly
[23:29] <frew> I think so too
[23:29] <frew> I'm gonna try to force it to a given runlevel now
[23:29] <frew> and reboot it
[23:29] <Oblivion> frew so this is a vm ?
[23:29] <frew> ...sorta
[23:30] <frew> it's a docker container running init to act like a vm
[23:30] <frew> aside from this issue I've not had any problems
[23:30] <frew> been using it for a few weeks instead of vagrant
[23:31] <Oblivion> frew yeah thats the prob, in a docker it uses the host kernel
[23:31] <frew> ok?
[23:31] <frew> I don't understand how that's related
[23:31]  * frew doesn't know much about init yet
[23:32] <frew> does the kernel like, globally set the init level/
[23:32] <Oblivion> frew I suspect it is using the host dbus
[23:32] <frew> I could make it use the host dbus but I'd need to configure that
[23:32] <Oblivion> frew Is dbus running on the host?
[23:32] <fluxxer> does anyone else have a problem with their desktop getting blown away again and again with every other update?
[23:32] <frew> it almost certainly is, but I didn't give it (the container) a socket or volume to konw how to reach it
[23:32] <fluxxer> with MATE, that is
[23:33] <Oblivion> frew I have not much experience with dockers , so not sure but It looks like a docker issue to me
[23:34] <frew> well
[23:34] <frew> manually specifying runlevel 2 still doesn't start dbus, for whatever reason
[23:34] <fluxxer> i have Mint 17 on my desktop and Ubuntu MATE on my laptop, and it's always a gamble whether i should update or not because this might happen.. i login, and the MATE panels don't load, and the CPU load goes way up trying to load things. if i login as guest, this doesn't happen
[23:34] <frew> I'll try 5
[23:35] <Oblivion> frew If you havent found a soloution a good person to ask is Allan Jude Tech Snap jupiter broadcasting
[23:35] <frew> is that a contractor or something?
[23:35] <TJ-> frew: have you looked at the upstart logs
[23:36] <frew> not yet, didn't even think to look there
[23:36] <frew> /var/upstart?
[23:36] <Oblivion> frew no its a security/technical podcast
[23:36] <frew> ok
[23:36] <frew> will check out
[23:36] <frew> thanks
[23:37] <Oblivion> does upstart keep logs?
[23:37] <TJ-> frew: /var/log/upstart/
[23:37] <frew> cool
[23:37] <frew> I'll look there
[23:37] <Oblivion> iirc it logs to syslog
[23:37] <TJ-> Upstart logs each service separately
[23:38] <fluxxer> beep beep, hello
[23:39] <Oblivion> fluxxer your asking Mint support in Ubuntu , wrong channel, use Mint support
[23:39] <fluxxer> Mint is based on Ubuntu. Ubuntu MATE is based on Ubuntu.
[23:39] <Oblivion> TJ where to?
[23:39] <shadeemotive> whats up?
[23:39] <TJ-> I already said
[23:40] <fluxxer> i guess i should find the MATE channel, but i don't know where that is
[23:40] <shadeemotive> lol
[23:40] <Oblivion> fluxxer yes but as they ship with different packages and desktops , it dont work the way you think
[23:40] <BlueProtoman> Can anybody recommend a good PPA for Qt 5.5 on Ubuntu 15.04?
[23:40] <shadeemotive> who here play sonic robo blast 2?
[23:41] <shadeemotive> i got no good ppas
[23:41] <Kamuela> wow my years-old issue with ubuntu suddenly just doens't happen anymore
[23:41] <fluxxer> Kamuela: amazin, isn't it
[23:41] <Oblivion> blueProtoman Gentoo only distro I use for dev
[23:41] <fluxxer> how probems mysteriously come and go
[23:41] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: That's nice, but I didn't come here about Gentoo
[23:41] <shadeemotive> i got srb2 who want to join :P
[23:41] <Kamuela> you know what's more amazing? how little I even want to look into it. i'm fine with it gone, no hard feelings
[23:42] <Oblivion> blueProtoman I advised it because to keep upstream with dev apps you need to use Gentoo, Arch, LFS to keep up
[23:42] <fluxxer> my probem just keeps resurfacing with every other update :P
[23:42] <fluxxer> guess i'll go find the MATE channel then, if there is one
[23:42] <Oblivion> blueProtoman problem is keeping all the shared libs up to date and not breaking stuff
[23:43] <shadeemotive> well i got a question
[23:43] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: I'm not installing a new operating system.
[23:43] <shadeemotive> why isnt there no new change when i go from ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10?
[23:43] <shadeemotive> or why wont 15.04 work???
[23:44] <shadeemotive> ???????////
[23:44] <Oblivion> blueProtoman well if they dont provide .deb learn to compile from source, but look forward to dependcy hell :(
[23:45] <Kamuela> Does anyone know why ctrl+alt+t no longer opens a terminal in 15.04?
[23:45] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: I know how to compile from source, but I'm trying to find a .deb so I don't have to
[23:45] <shadeemotive> ok brb
[23:46] <Oblivion> blueProtoman search google for package name ppa
[23:46] <somsip> !ppa | BlueProtoman
[23:46] <Oblivion> blueProtoman trust at your own risk though
[23:46] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: Already did
[23:46] <Oblivion> blueProtoman nothing?
[23:46] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: Just for Trusty, but I'm not on that
[23:46] <reisio> Kamuela: smack all your ctrl/alt/win/meta/shift keys
[23:47] <Oblivion> blueProtoman what you on ver num please I never remember names
[23:47] <BlueProtoman> Oblivion: 15.04
[23:47] <jonne> after upgrading to 15.04 , pulseaudio keeps selecting the wrong audio port. It defaults to line out (unplugged) instead of headphones (unplugged), so i don't get audio until i switch them with pavucontrol
[23:48] <jonne> is there a way to make this pavucontrol setting be remembered on startup?
[23:48] <Kamuela> reisio, is that a real suggestion? lol
[23:48] <Kamuela> reisio, HA, HA, HA... well indeed it was. tada
[23:48] <jonne> or alternatively make it detect that my headphones are actually plugged in
[23:48] <Kamuela> thank you
[23:48] <jonne> it worked fine in 14.04
[23:48] <Oblivion> blueProtoman depending on deps it could be ok to install from the 13.04 is that trusty or was it 12.04, if it pulls in alot of deps though would cancel it
[23:48] <reisio> reisio: 1; stuck keys: 0
[23:49] <Oblivion> blueProtoman but this is why I use Gentoo to keep close to upstream
[23:51] <frew> sorry got into long conversation about crypto
[23:51] <reisio> heh
[23:51] <frew> so looking at /var/log/syslog
[23:52] <frew> I don't see any *obvious* reasons why dbus wouldn't be running
[23:52] <Oblivion> frew try a reboot
[23:52] <frew> Oblivion: I did
[23:52] <frew> and switched from RL 2 to 5
[23:53] <TJ-> frew: did you look at the Upstart logs too?
[23:53] <Oblivion> frew dmesg | grep -i dbus?
[23:53] <frew> TJ-: looking there next
[23:56] <frew> nothing really in there
[23:56] <frew> there are 3 files in there, hostname.log, hwclock.log, and munin-node.log
[23:56]  * rypervenche high fives Oblivion.
[23:57] <frew> Oblivion: nada
[23:57] <frew> hm hm hm
[23:57] <Oblivion> frew give me a sec got to get my head around why Debian/Ubuntu use RL 2 instead of 3/5
[23:58] <Hmmmph> Can someone on here help me with a problem I've been having please?
[23:58] <Hmmmph> It's in regards to my graphics card.
[23:58] <TJ-> frew: which suggests dbus isn't being started. What does the dbus service declare its start-on to be? is that condition being satisfied?
[23:59] <frew> good question
[23:59] <frew> local-filesystems and deconfiguring-networking
[23:59] <frew> that could theoretically not be happning, since this is in a container
[23:59] <frew> I wonder... if I could change it to start on.. .somethign else