[01:22]  * Bashing-om hands TJ- a larger cup of patience, as he may need it .
[01:24]  * TJ- rolls his bleary eyes and runs for a coffee.... to New York and back at this rate :)
[01:24] <TJ-> We need a new channel policy: GIVE TJ SSH ACCESS SO ITS DONE IN 30 SECONDS NOT 30 MINUTES!
[01:43] <TJ-> Well, I've had time to repair a bicycle puncture whilst I've been waiting :)
[01:54] <Bashing-om> tj-; on the brighter side, teaching someone an operating system .
[01:55] <TJ-> Bashing-om: you missed out the keyword s/\(teaching/)\1 to break /
[01:58] <Bashing-om> TJ-: breaking/fixing. it is not so much that bear talks so well, it is that the bear talks at all .
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/remix-mini-is-the-first-android-pc-runs-lollipop-based-remix-os-488068.shtml
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> yikes, a pc with android oO
[05:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I've seen a few of those around.  meh.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> thats gonna ask for troubles
[05:31] <wileee> heh
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> yayyyy
[05:32] <wileee> I forgot to have it auto load
[05:32]  * lotuspsychje slides a chinese ginger coffee to wileee and cfhowlett 
[05:32] <wileee> mmmm knosh's
[05:32] <cfhowlett> I see your chinese ginger coffee and raise you a butter / coconut milk/ bulletproof coffee
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> mmmm
[05:35] <wileee> gonna probably cancel my internet for awhile soon getting to expensive for me, If you see me gone that is the downlow
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> wileee: steal some free wifi?
[05:36] <wileee> lotuspsychje, Heh I could easily, probably hang more at the coffee shop
[05:36] <wileee> few without keys here, besides all the businesses, just a moral issue for me
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> wileee: internet should be free bah!
[05:37] <wileee> yeah, and the education I owe a gigantic amount on
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> money wolves @ the top walking away with our money surfing
[07:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:46] <ObrienDave> *waves to the crazy crowd* ;P
[07:50] <wileee> uh this broken can you help me
[07:51] <ObrienDave> sounds like the typical help question ;P
[07:53] <wileee> I wish I had the communication skills, patience and knowledge to help these types better
[07:54] <wileee> never had kids I suspect that is a huge advantage, heh
[07:54] <ObrienDave> you can't save them all :)
[07:56] <wileee> true
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-mate-will-offer-a-choice-between-ubuntu-software-center-and-app-grid-488098.shtml
[08:19] <OerHeks> That does not make me switch to mate, but good decision
[08:20] <ObrienDave> i think i'll hide in here for a while ;P
[08:22]  * wileee whistles "It's a Beautiful day in the Neighborhood" while meditating
[08:23] <ObrienDave> so, won't you be my neighbor LOL
[08:23] <wileee> heh
[08:24]  * ObrienDave is an OLD fart ;P
[08:24] <wileee> me to just turned 51
[08:24] <ObrienDave> 58 ;p
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> there was a previous article many users dont like GUI ubuntu software centre
[08:25] <OerHeks> together, we are 156
[08:25] <OerHeks> softwarecenter is unreliable.
[08:25] <OerHeks> true
[08:26] <wileee> not all that friendly really hard to tell what it is doing
[08:26] <ObrienDave> i use USC only if i HAVE to. can't remember the last time
[08:26] <OerHeks> to install synaptic ?
[08:26] <ObrienDave> sounds about right LMAO
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-software-center-is-really-hated-by-community-but-why-487990.shtml
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> here's the thread
[08:27] <wileee> i install synaptic but just use the terminal mostly
[08:27] <ObrienDave> i like synaptic to browse what's available
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> i understand we techs all like the terminal style, but for most users i find GUI important also
[08:28] <OerHeks> i am not sure who this y Silviu Stahie guy is, i read only assumtions, no hard figures and examples...
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> read the comments, funnier then the article
[08:29] <OerHeks> if he wrote: ubuntu users love windows 10, would he get paid ?
[08:29] <ObrienDave> he'd get shot
[08:29] <OerHeks> nobelprice :-D
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:29] <OerHeks> like Obama
[08:31] <OerHeks> oh come on ObrienDave,  RFCOMM ? you invented them!
[08:31] <OerHeks> :-D
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: morning mate
[08:31] <ObrienDave> ;P i don't remember being that OLD or the smart ;P
[08:31] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[08:31] <EriC^^> morning everyone
[08:31] <ObrienDave> *that
[08:32] <OerHeks> hi EriC^^
[08:32] <EriC^^> hi OerHeks
[08:32] <ObrienDave> howdy EriC^^
[08:32] <EriC^^> hi ObrienDave
[08:33]  * lotuspsychje slides free hot coffees in the channel
[08:33] <ObrienDave> don't dilute my beer ;P
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:34] <ObrienDave> we WILL have problems ;P
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> hmm someone should invent coffeebeer
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> first you wake up, then you become drunk
[08:34] <ObrienDave> interesting idea but ewwwwwww
[08:36] <EriC^^> isn't that what irish coffee is?
[08:36] <EriC^^> :D
[08:36] <EriC^^> well with whiskey i think
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> lol yeah abit
[08:36] <ObrienDave> close ;P Coffee and Emmett's
[08:36] <ObrienDave> YUMMERS
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> if you drink 3 irish coffees at breakfast mmmmm youl go bacj to sleep
[08:37] <wileee> I'm in PDX tons of local breweries, one across the street, I request the coffee beer
[08:37] <ObrienDave> POrtland OR?
[08:37] <wileee> yep
[08:38] <ObrienDave> i'm from Grants Pass. just moved to Denver ;P
[08:38] <wileee> wait, there went linus running by, ;) ah grants pass
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> too late guys!
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/the-27-essential-coffee-beers-ranked
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> seems like they already exist
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> no $$$$$ for you!
[08:39] <wileee> ObrienDave, 101F tomorrow your not missing anything
[08:40] <ObrienDave> *shudder* glad i'm out of there LOL
[08:40] <ObrienDave> i was 40 miles SW, Cave Junction actually
[08:41] <wileee> heh, I use another depressant, legal since july 1st here with me coffee
[08:41] <wileee> nice born here never left
[08:42] <EriC^^> weed :D
[08:43] <EriC^^> ?
[08:43] <wileee> yep
[08:43] <ObrienDave> smoked that crap for 35 years, had to quit 10 years ago for a job LOL
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> so far for quality ubuntu discussions :p
[08:43] <EriC^^> smoking on the job is the best :P
[08:43] <wileee> pretty much most of my life here
[08:44] <ObrienDave> i remember COMPLAINING about spending 20 buck on a n OZ of Columbian in about 1976 ROFL
[08:45] <wileee> as of now there are 3 times the medical dispensaries than liquor stores, all controlled by the same org, olcc
[08:45] <wileee> medical use has been in place a long time
[08:46] <ObrienDave> wow, didn't think the OLCC would go there
[08:46] <wileee> they are letting regulars user into the med disp in october
[08:47] <ObrienDave> well, i still own my property south of CJ, it might be time to sell it soon ;)
[08:47] <wileee> flowers only, another year for the rest like ingestible stuf
[08:47] <wileee> property has rebounded here
[08:47] <wileee> value
[08:48] <ObrienDave> 17 acres, spring fed year round pond. all mine ;P
[08:48] <wileee> nice, I wish I had the money
[08:49] <ObrienDave> gotta pay beer rent ;P brb
[08:49] <wileee> sounds like a nice place to garden
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:56] <wileee> just watched a lecture on Kant and using others for reason, not read any kant I can remember, good stuff though
[08:57] <wileee> using other as a means to an end, kinda relevant on the channel, heh
[08:58] <ObrienDave> NEVAH! ;P
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> salam maleikum
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> konichiwa?
[09:02] <ObrienDave> you do and you'll clean it up ;P
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> chromixium is a chrome os clone, based on chromium ... i wonder why it even exists ...
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> oh I see
[16:18]  * daftykins rolls his eyes at #ubuntu users once more
[16:29] <wileee> time for gobs of caffeine
[16:30] <OerHeks> Sometimes i want to learn howto troll.
[16:31] <wileee> just informing the users sometimes feels like I already there ;)
[16:32] <wileee> "now look 500 feet a long dive into a 1 foot deep pooll"
[16:35] <wileee> A portlandia filming is going on blocks away from here soon, the neighborhood I live in is the yuppie area, should be good pickins
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> sweet... indicator-cpu really helps the temp stay low, even while using a VM
[17:17] <TJ-> Well, I'm sure having fun with this Super Talent Core Store Plus mini-PCIe SSD! Manufacturer engineers asked the classic question today despite everything I've reported: "Does it work correctly with Windows?" ... to which I replied :You tell me - at the moment the bug prevents the PC booting!"
[17:18] <daftykins> :)
[17:18] <cfhowlett> dc contact the site.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: fixxed ssd yet mate?
[18:23] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[18:23] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: The ssd ain't the problem. Messed a bit with it, didn't really go anywhere.
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hello mate :p
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: kk
[19:24]  * ObrienDave waves from Win7ville ;P
[19:24]  * OerHeks waves back from uname -a
[19:25] <ObrienDave> lol
[19:25] <daftykins> :O
[19:33]  * TJ- waves from GRUB
[19:34]  * lotuspsychje waves@localhost
[19:42] <daftykins> there's no place like ::1 that's for sure
[19:42] <daftykins> hrmm i think it might be curry night :)
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> hmm i dont see alot of india ip's flowing by in ubuntu actually wonder how that comes
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> they have large population, should be crowded with india support
[19:54] <daftykins> we get one in #u-uk
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> or maybe they still use windows 2000
[19:54] <daftykins> keeps trying to use the channel as his own personal search engine replacement =|
[19:54] <daftykins> strolls in and goes "teach me this today people"
[19:56] <TJ-> SSD TRIM bug-fix to be aware of:  https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=f3f5da624e0a891c34d8cd513c57f1d9b0c7dadc
[19:56] <TJ-> This is the cause of the Samsung SSDs getting blacklisted for TRIM support... turns out it affects all SSDs and is specific to md RAID0/1/10 configurations
[19:58] <daftykins> heh thankfully RAIDd SSDs are quite rare still
[19:58] <daftykins> only those silly gaming laptops do it
[19:59]  * lotuspsychje never liked raid anyways
[19:59] <daftykins> it's alright if done well :)
[19:59] <daftykins> #ubuntu teenagers trying to run minecraft? not so much :>
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> how about ssd servers, dont they use raid ssd layouts?
[20:00] <daftykins> *shrug*
[20:00] <TJ-> I use it for encryption purposes
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: nice find anyways
[20:01] <TJ-> At least we have a solution now, and the fix is easy to back-port
[20:05] <daftykins> surely you don't mean RAID for encryption?
[20:08] <TJ-> Yes
[20:08] <TJ-> installed drive is totally encrypted, with a detached LUKS header kept on an external boot device
[20:10] <daftykins> but that doesn't seem to have any relevance to necessarily be in a RAID config o0
[20:10] <TJ-> To ensure it doesn't cause problems with regular package updates, grub-update, update-initramfs I have the /boot/ mirrored using RAID-1 on both the external device and inside the dm-crypt container... that way updates can be done without the USB attached, and synced later
[20:10] <daftykins> ic
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys
[20:21]  * lotuspsychje waves @ sudo halt
[21:14] <bubbasaures> Nothing like a HD lockup to really make your day fun.
[21:15] <bubbasaures> crucial M4 SSD, runs great when it runs
[23:14] <wileee> We have green peace hanging off a bridge blocking a shell oil ship to the river here, heh
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Maybe, he get the drift of it, and become of some good help ?
[23:20] <wileee> the fire personal are doing a rescue to get them off the bridge