| * Kilos waves | 06:15 | |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| * slangasek waves | 15:00 | |
| * infinity grunts. | 15:00 | |
| * genii sips | 15:00 | |
| * doko curses | 15:00 | |
| robru | burps | 15:01 |
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| robru | crap | 15:01 |
| * sil2100 curses | 15:01 | |
| robru | forgot to /me, I ruined it! | 15:01 |
| slangasek | well that's .. different? | 15:01 |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jul 30 15:01:45 2015 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:01 |
| cyphermox | o/ | 15:02 |
| pitti | o/ | 15:02 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Welcome, Tiago! | 15:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Welcome, Tiago! | ||
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:03 |
| slangasek | hey, so some of you will have seen the mail from me today... we have a new team member joining us for the first time this week :) | 15:03 |
| bdmurray | yeah! | 15:03 |
| tdaitx | glad to be here =) | 15:03 |
| slangasek | tdaitx is taking on the java maintainer position, and I'm sure is having fun drinking from the new-starter firehose | 15:04 |
| sil2100 | tdaitx: good to have you on board! | 15:04 |
| tdaitx | indeed | 15:04 |
| pitti | hey tdaitx, welcome! | 15:04 |
| slangasek | tdaitx: anything you want to tell the team about yourself? | 15:04 |
| mbruzek | tdaitx: Welcome fellow Java person. | 15:04 |
| infinity | tdaitx: I hope you really, really, really like Germans. | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | welcome tdaitx! | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | well, I lived for 3 months at Germany once ;-) | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | good memories | 15:05 |
| infinity | tdaitx: Well, you're about to work very closely with someone who's lived in Germany for about 80 years. | 15:06 |
| infinity | Ish. | 15:06 |
| doko | fein, fast jeder hier spricht deutsch (although slangasek's is a bit rusty) | 15:07 |
| pitti | jawoll! | 15:07 |
| doko | don't forget to bring the cachaca for the next sprint =) | 15:08 |
| slangasek | mien Deutch nie war nicht rostig | 15:08 |
| slangasek | also it seems to have lost an s somewhere | 15:08 |
| infinity | My German is also not roasting. | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | well, what can I say, I have been involved with software development for quite a long time, moved from php to java to IDL to infrastructure and back and forth =) | 15:08 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:08 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | oops | 15:08 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Welcome, Tiago! | 15:09 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Welcome, Tiago! | ||
| slangasek | ;) | 15:09 |
| infinity | Hahahaha. | 15:09 |
| infinity | slangasek: I can only assume the PHP bit wasn't on his resume. | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | I have been looking into joining canonical for a while and for some reason slangasek and doko agreed to it a few weeks back | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | ;-) | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | infinity: people don't like to brag about the dark parts in their lives. | 15:10 |
| robru | lol | 15:10 |
| sil2100 | Dark parts indeed..! | 15:10 |
| slangasek | hmm I don't remember seeing php /or/ IDL on there, but maybe that was selective blindness ;) | 15:10 |
| * sil2100 shrugs in terror | 15:10 | |
| tdaitx | yeah, it was left out in purpose | 15:10 |
| infinity | :) | 15:10 |
| infinity | Well played. | 15:11 |
| infinity | tdaitx: Just one question: how do you feel about BSD? | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | is this one of those tricky questions? | 15:11 |
| infinity | It's an inside joke, don't worry. We'll fill you in when one of us gets a little bit unsober. | 15:12 |
| tdaitx | I have gone as far as installing nas4free | 15:12 |
| infinity | I nominate slangasek. | 15:12 |
| slangasek | mmhmm | 15:12 |
| cyphermox | I still haven't heard that BSD joke. | 15:13 |
| slangasek | right, so /now/ I think it's time to move on ;) | 15:13 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:13 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx) | 15:13 |
| slangasek | caribou barry sil2100 infinity doko bdmurray slangasek pitti robru tdaitx cyphermox | 15:13 |
| slangasek | that's a totally fair dice roll and I didn't reroll it twice because tdaitx ended up at the front of the list, honest | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | caribou is not around today from what I read | 15:13 |
| doko | cough, last upload quantal ... dbus-c++ (0.9.0-6ubuntu1) quantal; urgency=low | 15:14 |
| infinity | Isn't he on vacation for a few years or something? | 15:14 |
| pitti | . o O { and we told infinity a thousand times to not exaggerate } | 15:14 |
| infinity | doko: Oh phew, I thought that was going to be one of mine. | 15:14 |
| sil2100 | doko: to the transition PPA?! | 15:14 |
| slangasek | tdaitx: so for this part of the meeting (which is the main part, which often makes for a quick meeting), we go around telling the team what we've been working on the past week / will work on for the next week / are stuck on and want input on, then we ask follow-up questions if there are any | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | Ah, barry not around as well! | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | Ok, so my turn it seems | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | A long one today: | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | - Unblocked thumbnailer from wily-proposed | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | - Fixed channel mis-configurations for arale images | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | - RTM status meetings and discussions | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | - gcc-5 transition misc stuff: | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | * Releasing some of the pending merges as per doko's request | 15:15 |
| slangasek | tdaitx: it's traditional to draft this in the 5 minutes after the start of the meeting time, but we won't hold you to tradition | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | * Coordingating landing of others | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | * Consulting and packaging help for upstreams during the transition | 15:15 |
| sil2100 | - Shlibs help for some developers wanting to get rid of symbol files | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Prepared jenkins job for help in spreadsheet -> bileto migration | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Looked into why the URLs from bileto to assign silos are double-urlencoded | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | * This was breaking silo assignment | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Finished making commitlogs scripts working with bileto | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Migrating a few CI Train spreadsheet entries to bileto, analyzing related problems | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Work on a tool to perform a batch landing from the gcc-5 transition silo | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Writing script for downloading specific older debs from the overlay PPA | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Coordinating enabling the LP overlay translations with the LP team | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Re-spinning and re-releasing OTA-5 hotfix for mako devices | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Discussions regarding the mako Nokia HERE tarballs and images | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Updating the release process for OTA-6 | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | - Looking into the livecd-rootfs problem with missing -updates and -security | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | * It's a problem with live-build removing them for ubuntu in lb_chroot_archives | 15:16 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 15:16 |
| infinity | slangasek: Did you replace sil2100 with ev? | 15:16 |
| infinity | - Wrangled critical kernel security updates | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Dealt with fallout and emergency fix for regression from above | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Lots and lots and lots of SRU work for 14.04.3, reviews and uploads | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Fixed livecd-rootfs for HWE regressions and lubuntu/kubuntu builds | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Fixed critical apt autoremove bug breaking 14.04.3 builds | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Updated powerpc-ibm-utils in unstable and wily | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Started on the rest of the IBM rtas stack updates for wily (and SRUs to trusty) | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Random archive admin tasks | 15:17 |
| infinity | - Performing an experiment to see how long one can attempt to offset caffeine headaches with ibuprofen before they die | 15:17 |
| infinity | (done) | 15:17 |
| doko | - trying to keep silo16 up to date | 15:17 |
| doko | - started silo39 for the library renamings | 15:17 |
| doko | - pinging ubuntu-touch people to fix things | 15:17 |
| doko | - some python fixes, necessary for 3.5 as supported version | 15:17 |
| doko | - start mentoring tiago | 15:17 |
| doko | - openjdk-7, openjdk-8 security updates, openjdk-9 update | 15:17 |
| doko | - some GCC 5 bug fixes, and libstdc++ breaks added | 15:17 |
| doko | (done) | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | I need to start writing my weekly reports in the format of "- Did *stuff*. (done)" | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | reviewed retracer logs for information about core files still in swift | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | daisy retracer changes to better handle a failure to get the core file (don't | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | remove it from the queue as it may be a temporary network issue) | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | resolved issue with retracer's moving failures due to networking errors to failed queue | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | confirmed update of daisy on the production daisy frontends is good | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | research into migration of Errors to a DevOps service | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | replied to errors bug LP: #1479465 (overlay PPA stuff) | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | investigation into and discovery of reason for apport test failures | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1479465 in Errors "Show the touch overlay PPA in the package versions table" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479465 | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | updated RT #83411 regarding removing Utopic crashes | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | investigation into iproute2 increase in crash rate (w/o crashes) | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | reported systemd bug LP: #1478115 | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1478115 in systemd (Ubuntu) "using PathExistsGlob in apport-noui.path results in test failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478115 | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | participated in making Ubuntu 14.10 End of Life | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | updated bugbot to log reporter of no package bugs | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | infinity: how's the experiment so far? | 15:18 |
| infinity | sil2100: Not dead yet! | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | I don't believe you | 15:18 |
| slangasek | sil2100: what was misconfigured for the arale images? | 15:20 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: your turn! | 15:20 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: it seems they changed some jenkins urls for custom tarballs for a few channels - or gave us wrong ones from the start | 15:21 |
| sil2100 | But those were for the meizu.zh arale ones | 15:21 |
| sil2100 | So no impact | 15:21 |
| slangasek | sil2100: ah, ok | 15:21 |
| slangasek | * discussions around library package renaming for the gcc5 transition | 15:22 |
| slangasek | * tracking down silos with gcc5 fixes, and giving their owners a nudge | 15:22 |
| slangasek | * python3.5 transition: fixing most of the build failures caused by no-change rebuilds with python3.5 enabled; roughly 20 problem packages remaining | 15:22 |
| slangasek | * tracking of the remaining POWER issues for 14.04.3 | 15:22 |
| slangasek | * discussions around proposed-migration blip that caused all test failures to be ignored last night | 15:22 |
| slangasek | * this week: | 15:22 |
| slangasek | * follow through on shim SRU before 14.04.3 | 15:22 |
| slangasek | (done) | 15:22 |
| pitti | only three (but rather long) days to report due to holidays | 15:22 |
| pitti | autopkgtest cloud: | 15:22 |
| pitti | - add build-essential to trusty testbeds for test backwards compat | 15:22 |
| pitti | - analyze/categorize all tmpfails, fix bugs in worker and autopkgtest | 15:22 |
| pitti | - create LXC worker, and set up AMQP/swift workers for armhf/ppc64el | 15:22 |
| pitti | - rollout of britney with considering cloud test results, but reverted due to a grave bug in the logic that promoted most things with test regressions | 15:22 |
| pitti | - sift through the above fallout, fortunately not much actually broke except foolscap's test (still TBI) | 15:22 |
| pitti | misc: | 15:22 |
| pitti | - langpack-o-matic: adjust to new potemplate-stats format | 15:22 |
| pitti | - build new wily langpacks for touch issue (#1478208) | 15:22 |
| pitti | - help with g++ 5 transition | 15:22 |
| pitti | - fix apport for python 3.5 | 15:23 |
| pitti | - package systemd 223 (delaying due to alpha-2 freeze) | 15:23 |
| pitti | [END] | 15:23 |
| robru | ok | 15:23 |
| robru | so the universe is exploding | 15:23 |
| robru | * Finally got live rollout of Bileto to replace CI Train spreadsheet, many back-and-forths with IS to make it happen | 15:23 |
| robru | * nothing works right now, need to get everythign fixed | 15:24 |
| robru | (done) | 15:24 |
| slangasek | robru: is that beyond the double-urlencoding issue? | 15:24 |
| infinity | pitti: Oh, speaking of langpacks, I'll need some for trusty. | 15:25 |
| robru | slangasek: yeah for some reason bileto is giving HTTP500 intermittently on some requests | 15:25 |
| slangasek | robru: I assume the old spreadsheety instance is still up; have you considered asking IS for a DNS rollback? | 15:25 |
| robru | slangasek: I just asked IS for the logs, no idea why it's failing | 15:25 |
| * pitti waits for https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+language-packs to stop timing out | 15:25 | |
| robru | slangasek: pls no | 15:25 |
| pitti | infinity: I asked on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+language-packs for a full export, but the cron'ed one will be too late; I'll ask wgrant for a manual run | 15:26 |
| sil2100 | The other problem is that I though the spreadsheet would still be supported for the grace period | 15:26 |
| robru | slangasek: the double-encoding thing shouldn't be horrible to fix quickly but intermittent 500s is a mystery | 15:26 |
| infinity | pitti: Ta. | 15:26 |
| slangasek | robru: if the phone team is down right now due to these problems, a rollback would be the right thing to do so you can debug it offline | 15:26 |
| tdaitx | let me know when I should drop in | 15:27 |
| infinity | tdaitx: Whenever. | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | as slangasek said, I have been "drinking from the new-starter firehose" | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | apart from that... | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - fixed a libedit bug for wily proposed; lp #1479474 | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - fixed conflict and merged bash (4.3-11ubuntu3 and debian's 4.3-13); lp #1479542 | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - getting familiar to debian/ubuntu packaging process | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | next steps are: | 15:27 |
| slangasek | tdaitx: feel free to talk over us :) | 15:27 |
| robru | slangasek: DNS rollback shouldn't be necessary, the spreadsheet is still online and jenkins still works, it's possible to just use that | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - finish the newcomer stuff | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - make sense out of the openjdk-7 packaging style | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - fix more stuff on ftbfs | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | - get acquainted with a few openjdk bugs | 15:27 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1479474 in libedit (Ubuntu) "failure to detect libbsd on build due to wrong LDFLAGS usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479474 | 15:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1479542 in bash (Ubuntu) "merge Debian 4.3-13 and 4.3-11ubuntu3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1479542 | 15:27 |
| slangasek | robru: isn't run.sh pointing at a hostname that has been moved? | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | * trusty SRUs: | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | - parted 4k sector disk support | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | - fixed up initial multipath-tools SRU for FC, 4k, udev shared lock | 15:27 |
| infinity | tdaitx: Pro tip, if you ref those as LP: #1479474, gnome-terminal linkifies them for lazy people like me. | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | * moar multipath work to SRU bug 1468897 to trusty: | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | - fixed some udev interaction issues | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | - lots of testing, on qemu and ppc64el. | 15:27 |
| slangasek | robru: and is anyone able to find the dashboard? | 15:28 |
| sil2100 | robru: yeah, although I was considering getting the old dashboard setup somewhere to track spreadsheet entries | 15:28 |
| robru | slangasek: run.sh is pointing at the jenkins instance which is working perfectly. | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | * debugging ubiquity issue for 14.04.3 with infinity. | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | * ubiquity cherry-pick for 14.04.3 print flush. | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | * identified an issue with handling wwids in initramfs in multipath 0.5.0 | 15:28 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1468897 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1468897). The error has been logged | 15:28 |
| sil2100 | robru, slangasek: since the new one is not tracking the spreadsheet at all | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | - needs fix in partman-multipath and multipath-tools itself | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | * silo for NetworkManager upload (landing-017) | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | - testing with ModemManager, given some core changes in NM code. | 15:28 |
| slangasek | robru: ok, I understood from last night's discussion that IS was updating the target of that DNS name | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | * uploaded skiboot (opal-prd) to wily NEW queue. | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | ⒹⓄⓃⒺ | 15:28 |
| pitti | infinity: or just click on the autogenerated links from ubottu ;) | 15:28 |
| tdaitx | infinity, noted =) | 15:28 |
| infinity | pitti: The bot's not in every channel. :P | 15:28 |
| sil2100 | robru, slangasek: we could also switch the spreadsheet to use the new location for the config files for silos and still work in the background | 15:28 |
| robru | slangasek: yes they changed the DNS to point at the jenkins instance that is actually being used. | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | infinity: terminator linkify's them too fwiw | 15:28 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Well, it's vte that does it, I think. | 15:29 |
| sil2100 | robru, slangasek: since the dashboard only supports bileto right now, I would also opt for a mass migration of existing spreadsheet entries to bileto, since right now there's no flow control on the old landings | 15:29 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: is the wwids-in-initramfs problem a regression in the last SRU / blocker for 14.04.3? | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: no, it's an issue with that pesky thing of ignoring USB devices and non-mpath disks | 15:30 |
| slangasek | ok | 15:30 |
| slangasek | any other questions over status? | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | (but it's a bug in wily too, since we don't have the wwids file there either, not sure why people haven't reported it) | 15:31 |
| slangasek | because nobody runs a server on an Ubuntu development series, and especially not one using multipath? | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | some people do test multipath on wily... | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | I like to think I'm not the only one :) | 15:32 |
| slangasek | well | 15:32 |
| slangasek | if it makes you happy to think that ;-) | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | it does! :D | 15:33 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | oh wait | 15:33 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Sprinting | 15:33 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Sprinting | ||
| tdaitx | charles, wouldn't it be possible to automate multipath tests using qemu as well? | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | tdaitx: I do :) | 15:33 |
| tdaitx | ops, cyphermox ^ | 15:33 |
| slangasek | we have a sprint in the works | 15:34 |
| cyphermox | tdaitx: I keep preseeds for this stuff at http://people.canonical.com/~mtrudel/preseed/ | 15:34 |
| slangasek | the details are not completely finalized yet (location, etc) but we have a week set | 15:34 |
| slangasek | September 14 | 15:34 |
| slangasek | 14-18 | 15:35 |
| slangasek | so please mark your calendars | 15:35 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: back to a full week? | 15:35 |
| sil2100 | Sprint? Uh oh | 15:35 |
| infinity | slangasek: I vote somewhere with English accents and Parliament. | 15:36 |
| slangasek | cyphermox: had we ever stopped sprints being full-week? | 15:36 |
| sil2100 | Hope it's in Europ | 15:36 |
| sil2100 | *Europe | 15:36 |
| slangasek | infinity: I hear there are people agitating to have it somewhere tropical | 15:36 |
| slangasek | by which I mean Florida, not somewhere fun | 15:36 |
| slangasek | :) | 15:36 |
| infinity | slangasek: Those people are crazy. | 15:36 |
| infinity | slangasek: Oh, gross. | 15:36 |
| slangasek | anyway, I'll keep you all posted | 15:36 |
| sil2100 | Not the US, oh no please no | 15:36 |
| infinity | slangasek: Every time I have to sprint in Orlando, I die a little inside. | 15:36 |
| slangasek | or more likely you'll get an email direct from msm the moment it's decided | 15:37 |
| pitti | sil2100: last EU sprint was a while ago indeed | 15:37 |
| slangasek | infinity: but it's the happiest place on earth! | 15:37 |
| * tdaitx is a not tropical kind of guy | 15:37 | |
| infinity | slangasek: That's Anaheim. | 15:37 |
| cyphermox | it's tropical enough here in Montreal this week :) | 15:37 |
| slangasek | or wait, not the happiest place on earth... the happiest place in the other thing | 15:37 |
| cyphermox | slangasek: in florida? | 15:38 |
| slangasek | actually Miami was mooted but I don't know if that'll fly | 15:38 |
| infinity | slangasek: Orlando is the happiest place in Orlando. That's about the best it can manage. | 15:38 |
| infinity | slangasek: Miami's a whole different story, it has culture. I'd do that! | 15:38 |
| slangasek | sil2100: do you have your passport situation sorted yet? | 15:38 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: hm, I'll have to drive to get a new one, since indeed the previous one will be invalid by that time | 15:39 |
| sil2100 | slangasek: thanks for the reminder! | 15:40 |
| sil2100 | ;p | 15:40 |
| slangasek | :) | 15:40 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:40 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | ok - anything else? | 15:40 |
| infinity | If anyone has anything they need to get onto 14.04.3 images, your deadline is about a week ago. HTH, HAND. | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | infinity: in bug 1471903 sil2100 mentions -updates being removed by live-build | 15:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1471903 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "-updates, -security missing from apt lists" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471903 | 15:42 |
| sil2100 | Yeah | 15:42 |
| bdmurray | infinity: would that also happen with 14.04.3 images? | 15:42 |
| sil2100 | The ubuntu-remove-non-release-lists.patch patch does that | 15:43 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Yeah, that's by design. I'm unconvinced that fixing it will fix anything. | 15:43 |
| sil2100 | bdmurray: the rationale of this patch makes sense for desktop, sadly not for a system with a read-only filesystem | 15:43 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Since we do things like run apt-get update in the installer, which then invalidates any out of date packages anyway. | 15:44 |
| slangasek | infinity: it will fix the packages on the image that are installed from -updates and -security being shown as being of unknown source | 15:44 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Anyhow, we can discuss it out of meeting. | 15:44 |
| slangasek | whether this is worth the cost is another question | 15:44 |
| bdmurray | infinity: if the origin for a package is unknown you can't use ubuntu-bug so then you can't use it when running a live cd before installing. | 15:44 |
| infinity | slangasek: It only fixes them until they're out of date again. | 15:45 |
| slangasek | infinity: yes, you run apt-get update in the installer, but not for the live system | 15:45 |
| infinity | slangasek: Are the majority of our bugs on livecds not from the installer environment? | 15:45 |
| slangasek | infinity: how do we know, given that people can't report them? ;) | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | hah, indeed | 15:46 |
| slangasek | anyway, let's discuss outside meeting as suggested | 15:46 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Jul 30 15:46:37 2015 UTC. | 15:46 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-07-30-15.01.moin.txt | 15:46 |
| slangasek | thanks, everyone! | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | I would opt for getting that patch removed, not sure if there's enough merit in having it around to try and work-around it somehow in ubuntu-touch | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | Thanks! | 15:46 |
| tdaitx | what does AOB stands for? | 15:47 |
| sil2100 | Any Other Business I guess | 15:47 |
| infinity | All Other Business. | 15:47 |
| pitti | tdaitx: any other b... yes | 15:47 |
| infinity | Or Any. | 15:47 |
| tdaitx | lol | 15:47 |
| pitti | http://www.acronymfinder.com/AOB.html has a few other interesting ones, though | 15:48 |
| slangasek | linux-any other business? | 15:48 |
| infinity | Oh man, tired+dyslexia = reading gold. | 15:48 |
| infinity | I read that first one as "anals of baloney" | 15:48 |
| sil2100 | infinity: I had the same thing, but in my case it was maybe only because I'm a perv | 15:49 |
| pitti | we're done, right? | 15:56 |
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