[05:07] <mapwrk> Hm
[05:07] <mapwrk> Hi
[05:09] <mapwrk> My location: Gibraltar, Gibraltar
[05:09] <mapwrk> Oops
[05:21] <knightwise> mroning
[05:22] <shauno> aloha
[05:23] <knightwise> hey shauno, how are you today
[05:23] <shauno> I have no idea yet :)  it'll take two cups of coffee and an empty inbox before I can decide that
[05:24] <knightwise> I'm on the one cup of coffee mark
[05:24] <knightwise> but i'm also at the post morning workout part , so i'm pretty awake
[05:41] <zmoylan-pi> that sounds like a reason not to workout to be honest :-p
[05:43] <knightwise> I have a routine in the morning , do a quick workout while i put the kettle on
[05:43] <knightwise> by the time coffee is ready, so is my workout
[05:45] <knightwise> planning on doing some urban exploring next week
[05:45] <knightwise> abandoned colemine in the area is just waiting for a visit
[06:00] <knightwise> #urbex
[06:00] <shauno> my 'morning routine' is much more like something out of 'shaun of the dead'
[06:15] <knightwise> lol
[06:15] <knightwise> Shauno of the dead
[06:26] <knightwise> ok , off to my first meeting , ttyl
[06:26] <knightwise> Shelllldorrr AFK
[06:51] <shauno> hm.  who on earth are Hermes and what are they doing with my package.
[08:37] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:50] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Cheesecake Day! 😃
[08:52]  * zmoylan-pi hasn't had cheesecake in yonks...
[08:52] <shauno> I had strawberry cheesecake icecream.  if that counts.
[08:52] <bigcalm> Mmmmm, cheese caaaaaake
[08:53] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qe7YmYgowM
[08:54] <davmor2> JamesTait: or the one I was actually thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqrhdYQ_wMg
[08:54] <JamesTait> It's OK, davmor2, I daren't click on any links now I've looked at the first one.
[08:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: the second one is Louis Armstrong
[08:57] <popey> wise to avoid anything davmor2 posts
[08:57] <popey> earworms usually
[08:58] <JamesTait> That's more like it, davmor2. Though, as popey says, earworm.
[08:58] <davmor2> popey: louis armstrong singing about cheesecake what can possibly be earwormy about that
[08:58] <popey> lalalalalala not listening
[08:59] <davmor2> popey: All the things that she said, that she said, are running through my head, running though my head, running through my head......I got no idea what you mean earworms pffff
[09:04] <davmor2> So this morning I woke up with Golden Eye in my head which of course lead to lots of other bond themes I can't find the real copy of skyfall on spotify though and the versions on there are crap :(
[09:06] <directhex> Let the sky foal ennet crumb bowl
[09:09] <davmor2> directhex: see even that is better than the ones on spotify
[09:10] <JamesTait> davmor2, https://youtu.be/RBumgq5yVrA and https://youtu.be/CnQ8N1KacJc are the two that seem to be on repeat in my head lately.
[09:11] <popey> fun http://whatever.scalzi.com/2015/07/29/the-upgrade-from-hell/
[09:12] <davmor2> JamesTait: whenever I hear the group name I think of this though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0nlygb1Qfw
[09:12] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:13] <mgdm> morning
[09:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: so I think this would slot into that repertoire nicely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-UzXIQ5vw
[09:18] <davmor2> JamesTait: or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orv_F2HV4gk
[09:27]  * JamesTait feels a YouTube playlist coming on.
[09:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're welcome
[09:28] <JamesTait> Earworm Radio. 😝
[09:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: that's my morning head song playlist :P
[09:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: If you want a funky day that helps you be productive, Start the do the 50+ playlist on Stiltskin Inside
[09:30] <davmor2> -do the
[09:31] <JamesTait> Not forgetting https://youtu.be/8I8mWG6HlmU?list=RD8I8mWG6HlmU
[09:36] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eawL6aJ2nBc
[09:37] <JamesTait> https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE
[09:41] <davmor2> popey: never complain about me again after JamesTait last post even I'm not that low ;)
[09:41] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8
[09:42] <Laney> jesus christ
[09:50] <knightwise> surpirisingly catchy !
[09:52] <davmor2> knightwise: which?
[09:54] <davmor2> knightwise: we just pushed out a list of earworms and you say catchy ;)
[10:03] <knightwise> the last one
[10:03]  * knightwise is watching some old Space 1999 episodes :) 
[10:07] <zmoylan-pi> season 1 or season 2?
[10:08] <knightwise>  this one is a season 2 episode
[10:09] <knightwise> although season 1 is better
[10:09] <knightwise> but catherine shell is plain 70's drop dead stunning
[10:14] <zmoylan-pi> ah the jeri ryan of space 1999
[10:14] <knightwise> well put ..
[10:14] <zmoylan-pi> the mention of cheese cake earlier made me think of her... :-)
[10:15] <brobostigon> and ST:VOY.
[10:16] <knightwise> an awesome episode indeed where she has the doctor "inside" her .. magnificently entertaining
[10:17] <davmor2> JamesTait: I present you with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MdABLcI7RI
[10:18] <knightwise> cant believe that terry hatcher was a bondgirl
[10:18] <knightwise> horribe
[10:19] <davmor2> knightwise: did you not see her in tango and cash
[10:19] <zmoylan-pi> we just have to convince them to have christina hendricks as villan in next bond movie...
[10:20] <knightwise> she was a lot younger then
[10:20] <knightwise> desperate housewives ruined her for me
[10:22] <brobostigon> and she had a quest role in ST:TNG.
[10:23] <knightwise> brobostigon: equally terrible
[10:23] <knightwise> the outrageous okuda
[10:23] <knightwise> sorry okona
[10:23] <brobostigon> that ep yes, not ST:TNG, that was great.
[10:24] <knightwise> true
[10:30] <davmor2> JamesTait, knightwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h61QG4s0I3U
[10:30] <knightwise> THAT is an awe-some track !
[10:30] <knightwise> played it a lot in my DJ days during warmup
[10:31] <popey> a way better track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O6q7JzYqMs ;)
[10:33]  * knightwise imagines popey rocking out to this in the shower ... quite disturbing image
[10:34] <knightwise> Belgian Culture : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-z4XSnus8
[10:35] <davmor2> popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ytsEt87ro
[10:39] <davmor2> knightwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw9GNz-EYP8
[10:41] <knightwise> Catcy remix here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8xcS4HKgNA
[10:49] <mappps> urgh
[10:49] <mappps> like 3 hrs sleep
[10:49] <mappps> too hot and noise outside
[10:49] <mappps> :(
[10:51] <shauno> hot? in july?  that's what you get for moving to silly countries!
[10:51] <shauno> 14C & drizzle here
[10:51] <mappps> heh
[10:51] <mappps> hopefully one of the new places will have AC
[10:51] <mappps> viewing two today
[10:51] <zmoylan-pi> well it is july so the snow is holding off for a few weeks shauno
[10:52] <mappps> 27c atm
[10:53] <mappps> outrageus prices here
[10:53] <mappps> but i dont want to move to spain
[10:54] <mappps> £1100-1500 for a 1bed generally - Spain 750 euros for a 3 bed
[11:06] <arsenip> spain is cheap++ :D
[11:13] <shauno> argh.  the artists formerly known as top gear have signed with Amazon.  but I don't want Prime.
[11:21] <arsenip> :D
[11:21] <arsenip> great business move eh, makes me now need to sign up to prime, i was already on the edge (trying to not do so even if it made sense)
[11:28] <popey> I'm glad they moved to Amazon Video.
[11:29] <popey> Means it's easier for me to not watch them.
[11:29] <arsenip> xD
[11:29] <jpds> "Tonight, on Prime Gear, we drive around the Amazon rainforset"
[11:29] <arsenip> id not be surprised
[11:29] <arsenip> make a fun joke, and an interesting show :D
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> nah a race around an amazon warehouse
[13:05] <diddledan> mernin
[13:05] <popey> pip pip
[13:06] <davmor2> tally-ho
[13:06] <diddledan> whatchacock
[13:06] <diddledan> (I have no idea where that one comes from - probably east end)
[13:07] <diddledan> (my family were east-enders two generations ago
[13:08] <diddledan> my nan moved from london to hampshire during the wat
[13:08] <diddledan> war*
[13:08] <diddledan> and met my grandad who was already here but was also an east-ender
[13:13] <popey> during the WAT!
[13:13] <davmor2> knightwise, JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k
[13:15] <zmoylan-pi> they had to speak up because of all the noise
[13:15] <diddledan> popey: yeah, when I heard about the war I said "wat" :-p
[13:17] <JamesTait> davmor2, I'm not sure what you're saying....
[13:17] <davmor2> JamesTait: it's just a catchy tune :)
[13:18] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're so sweet and innocent I bet you still think relax wasn't about sex right :)
[13:20] <JamesTait> davmor2, don't be silly, it's about taking time out to relax and have a good time. 😉
[13:40] <diddledan> lol : https://youtu.be/Y7aEiVwBAdk
[13:47] <popey> thats neat
[13:50] <exobuzz> hi popey
[13:51] <popey> hey exobuzz
[13:55] <exobuzz> popey, thanks for the retropie mention on ubuntupodcast (some episodes ago)
[14:01] <popey> :)
[14:01] <popey> is there an easy way to upgrade retropie on my pi2?
[14:01] <popey> rather than reinstall
[14:03] <exobuzz> which image did you install originally ? or did you install from the script ?
[14:04] <exobuzz> basically, the upgrade route is - update retropie-setup script, then do a full binary install.. but tbh from 2.6 -> 3.0 would need some manual work to merge in configs etc (and lots of stuff has moved etc). but if you started from say retropie 3.0 beta4 - it should be fine..
[14:07] <exobuzz> doing a full binary install does not overwrite old configs, but leaves any new configs such as retroarch.cfg as retroarch.rp-dist so any new settings would need to be manually merged/compared
[14:27] <MooDoo> afternoon all
[14:27] <diddledan> m00
[14:45] <MooDoo> how is everyone this after noon?
[14:46] <bigcalm> All of my creative juices have been sapped by one client problem. I want to take the rest of the day off
[14:47] <davmor2> MooDoo: how are you me owld mucka
[14:48] <davmor2> MooDoo: had golden eye stuck in my head this morning which then of course leads on to all the other funky bond themes, But no skyfall to add the list :'(
[14:48]  * diddledan gives bigcalm a transfusion
[14:49] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah i'm doing ok thanks, just listening to some punk on sptify at the moment.
[14:50]  * davmor2 provides bigcalm with a gun, that will solve the client problem ;)
[14:51] <diddledan> https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify_uk_/playlist/3fFwkB1IzcZlvYZEuiDzUU :-p
[14:51] <diddledan> romantic power ballads!
[14:52] <diplo> Without telling me this is a bad bad idea ( I already know! ) anyone think of a simple way to copy a single pub key to multiple users (400+) authorized_keys file
[14:52] <diplo> I'm guessing writing a script is my best bet
[14:53] <bashrc> probably
[14:53] <davmor2> diplo: usb stick
[14:53] <diddledan> diplo: if you're doing it all on the same pc then it's simple
[14:53] <diplo> 400 user profiles on same box
[14:53] <diplo> yeah same PC, basically a app that ssh's from one machine to the other but without creating 400+ ssh keys
[14:54] <diddledan> diplo: as root: `for i in /home/*; do mkdir -p $i/.ssh; chown $_; chmod 700 $_; cat id_rsa.pub > $_/authorized_keys; done` might do it.
[14:54] <mgdm> you probably want '>>' instead of '>'
[14:54] <diddledan> yeah
[14:54] <mgdm> or maybe pipe to tee -a
[14:55] <diddledan> mgdm knows his stuff :-p
[14:55] <diplo> That looks so simple that I should have thought of that!
[14:55] <diplo> Thanks guys
[14:55] <mgdm> diddledan: I know some things through bitter experience :-)
[14:55] <diddledan> mgdm: hehe
[14:55] <diddledan> mgdm: those are the most fun
[14:55] <diddledan> I love bitter experience when I realise I've screwed a production system beyond repair
[14:55] <mgdm> hehe
[14:56] <mgdm> nowadays if I break a production system I can terminate the VM and a new one pops up in its place
[14:56] <diddledan> that's nice
[14:56] <diddledan> I really need to investigate that kind of tech
[14:56] <mgdm> Aye, it's a handy trick
[14:56] <diddledan> I keep telling myself I'm gonna investigate docker, too
[14:57] <bashrc> I've tried docker and it's ok. I don't think it's as big a deal as some make out though
[14:57] <bashrc> I've also heard a few docker horror stories
[14:58] <mgdm> docker is quite cool, docker-compose is cooler still, but I"m not sure I'd use it in production yet
[14:59] <diddledan> I just don't really understand what docker gives me that I can't get with aws normally
[14:59] <diddledan> but yet amazon announce "we now support docker" as if it's important
[14:59] <mgdm> You might be able to get more efficient resource usage
[14:59] <diddledan> obv I'm using amazon as an example, it covers any provider really
[15:00] <mgdm> instead of having to run two entire VMs to keep two services separate, you can have one with the two bits containerised on the same machine
[15:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: there had better be sexpistols in that list ;)
[15:22] <diddledan> davmor2: that sounds like a dangerous liason
[15:23] <diddledan> sex AND pistols?!
[15:23] <daftykins> whoa McCoys in new design packaging shocker!
[15:24] <davmor2> diddledan: water pistols I never said what sort you assumed
[15:28] <diddledan> daftykins:  :-o
[15:32] <daftykins> ikr!
[15:33] <daftykins> had to double take what i'd just picked up to buy
[15:50] <awilkins> http://jakepoz.com/soviet_debugging.html << In Soviet Russia, cow debugs you
[16:00] <bashrc> yes, ionising radiation can flip bits
[16:01] <daftykins> NASA have some kinda new tech trialling up on the ISS right now that's safe from it
[16:02] <bashrc> cosmic rays have the same effect in space, so taking your laptop to Jupiter might not be a good user experience unless it has been radiation hardened
[16:03] <bashrc> the Earth's atmosphere shields out a lot of the cosmic crap
[16:04] <bashrc> at chernobyl, circuit boards on the improvised robots melted after a while
[16:04] <daftykins> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nano-RAM
[16:05] <daftykins> there we go, resists radiation and temperature issues
[16:07] <daftykins> diddledan: i pulled the win10 key out of my install today (which activated fine! must've been a lot lower load on their activation servers today) then clean installed \o/ (truly clean)
[16:40] <diddledan> toblerone
[16:41] <daftykins> mmm haven't had some of that in far too long
[16:48] <foobarry> verdict on the museums today
[16:49] <foobarry> science museum: no queue, did a rush job and only did 2 floors. would like to go back on my own without the son :D
[16:49] <diddledan> lol
[16:50] <diddledan> museums are wasted on kids :-p
[16:50] <foobarry> natural history, long queues , especially for the dinosaur rooms, great for the boy
[16:50] <foobarry> did most of nat history
[16:50] <diddledan> \o/
[16:50] <foobarry> i didn't see the computers in the science mus
[16:50] <foobarry> just saw the space room, and the room with stephensons rocket in, and the hands on stuff in  launchpad
[16:54] <diddledan> stephenson's rocket is in a museum already? I didn't know steamos was that noteworthy yet :-p
[16:56] <foobarry> saw narwhals and pangolins
[16:56] <diddledan> yey for ubuntu! :-p
[16:57] <foobarry> https://goo.gl/photos/F7Ew4gX9xEf4z1zWA
[17:37] <diddledan> 18:37 <Sbur> daftykins: I'm sorry, but as you probably can see, I'm a noob
[17:38] <diddledan> self-identifying as a noob is a worrying trend
[17:38] <diddledan> its akin to saying "I don't know anything, so I'm not going to try"
[17:38] <diddledan> a much better term to self-identify as would be "learning"
[17:39] <zleap> what is self identifying
[17:39] <diddledan> I don't like that people are admitting defeat before starting
[17:39] <diddledan> zleap: identifying yourself
[17:39] <zleap> ok
[17:39] <daftykins> get it all the time with clients too
[17:39] <diddledan> zleap: hence, self-identifying
[17:39] <zleap> like with gpg
[17:39] <zleap> or passports
[17:40] <diddledan> err
[17:40] <diddledan> no
[17:40] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[17:40] <diddledan> nothing to do with passports
[17:40] <zleap> ok
[17:40] <zleap> sorry
[17:40] <diddledan> zleap: you self-identify as "zleap"
[17:41] <diddledan> zleap: if you said you were a noob then you'd also be self-identifying as a noob
[17:41] <zleap> ok
[17:41] <diddledan> zleap: self-identifying is telling other people what you have decided you are
[17:42] <diddledan> if I called myself a moron then I would be self-identifying as a moron
[17:43] <zleap> so python noob or c++ hacker,  like level of skill in something
[17:43] <diddledan> (not that I'm ever going to call myself a moron. that would be moronic :-p)
[17:43] <diddledan> it doesn't have to be skill-level
[17:44] <diddledan> it could just be a name
[17:44] <zleap> k
[17:44] <diddledan> I self-identify as "diddledan" for example as a name
[17:45] <zleap> i guess i self id as zleap then
[17:45] <diddledan> the point is it's your own decision about yourself - it is about what you think you are rather than what other people think you are
[17:45] <diddledan> so my complaint here is people being defeatest by deciding they're a noob before they even try
[17:46] <daftykins> often an excuse to avoid being given links to learn things
[17:46] <zleap> yeah i see your point
[17:46] <daftykins> and just want the answer handed over
[17:46] <diddledan> daftykins: yeah
[17:47] <diddledan> daftykins: I cut my teeth on a qmail mailing list which really was a trial-by-fire in terms of the members ensuring that you learnt the reasons and the solution rather than them just saying "run x y z and boom"
[17:47] <diddledan> I try to follow the same path when I help others but they do make it difficult at times
[17:48] <zleap> indeed as there isn't a one size fits all solution
[17:58] <mappps> omg its boiling and i have to wea jeans and shirt
[17:58] <mappps> work party and it says no shorts
[18:55] <diddledan> interesting issue: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/16696
[18:56] <diddledan> tor is "unbalanced"
[18:56] <diddledan> BW == bandwidth - they measure bandwidth of nodes in the network to better asses a node's capability for transferring data for users
[18:57] <diddledan> faster nodes get more traffic as a result
[19:08]  * diddledan been loving it up with https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify_uk_/playlist/3fFwkB1IzcZlvYZEuiDzUU
[19:08] <diddledan> :-p
[19:09] <diddledan> the so-called "#throwbackthursday" playlist with this week's subject matter being "Romantic power ballads!"
[20:04] <czajkowski> .c
[20:17] <daftykins> hrmm user getting black boxes in notifications and apps from gnome3 on intel graphics, sandybridge gen
[20:19] <diddledan> it's a laptop?
[20:19] <diddledan> if so I would guess it's got that hybrid thingy going-on
[20:19] <daftykins> nah sole graphics
[20:19] <daftykins> i had an lspci done
[20:19] <diddledan> no idea then :-p
[20:20] <diddledan> I only help when the answer's obvious :-p
[20:20] <daftykins> guy rolled back 14.04.2 to a 3.13 kernel, probably suggest going newer
[20:20] <daftykins> heh
[20:20] <daftykins> same pretty much
[20:20] <daftykins> or the problem is interesting
[21:14] <vormeph> guys, will mesa 11.0 be hitting ubuntu? my laptop could sure use the opengl 4.1 tech :D
[23:11] <daftykins> this Turing film with Benedict Cumberbatch looks interesting