[00:00] <frew> I'll change it to start on runlevel [2..5]
[00:00] <Oblivion> frew yeah try init 5
[00:00] <siwica> Why does the emacs package still include the version 24.3 instead of 24.5 which was already released in April?
[00:01] <Oblivion> frew sorry init 3 your headless
[00:02] <ezumador> join /#ubuntu-br
[00:02] <Bashing-om> !info emacs
[00:02] <Oblivion> siwica because Linux distros ship with packages at release of OS, they then pathch security and bug fixes but no features.
[00:02] <Hmmmph> Essentially, I'm currently using an AMD HD 7770, but not only is the thing unable to perform to any standard worth crediting, but it fails to give even a correct resolution for my monitor, and frequently crashes when running most games, and sometimes crashes the whole computer. I've tried a number of different drivers, but they all seem to carry different variations of the same problems. Could anyone give me advice?
[00:02] <ezumador> join / #ubuntu-br
[00:03] <ezumador> como que e
[00:03] <reisio> siwica: right, because upstream has different standards
[00:03] <ezumador> como que ta galera
[00:03] <ezumador> tudo bom
[00:03] <ezumador> ??
[00:03] <Oblivion> siwica ..ever get updated because its all about stability
[00:04] <Oblivion> !nano
[00:04] <ezumador> join /#ubuntu-br
[00:04] <squinty> ezumador,   /join #ubuntu-br
[00:04] <siwica> Oblivion: So if I want to use the latest version there is no other way than to wait for a new major ubuntu release or to build it from source myself?
[00:04] <TJ-> frew: if you do "grep 'emit local-filesystems' /etc/init/* " you'll see the services that emit that event... mountall is the one, and some services alter their behaviour if /bin/running-in-container returns true (0)
[00:05] <Oblivion> i like nano personally if I need a quick edit of a text file wht fuck around with all the vi key presses
[00:05] <squinty> ezumador,  or  /j #ubuntu-br
[00:05] <Oblivion> *why
[00:05] <siwica> Oblivion: btw, how do I find out which version of emacs the next major release will most likely include?
[00:05] <squinty> Oblivion, family channel
[00:05] <Oblivion> squinty sorry
[00:06] <Oblivion> siwica there website
[00:06] <frew> woo
[00:07] <frew> so I echo "start on runlevel [2345]" > dbus.override, and then initctl reload-configuration, and then init 3
[00:07] <frew> and now I see a running dbus-daemon
[00:07] <frew> and now my services start
[00:07] <TJ-> frew: well done :)
[00:07] <frew> TJ-++
[00:07] <frew> Oblivion++
[00:07] <frew> thanks for the help you guys
[00:07] <Oblivion> frew cool defo looks like the rc scripts are screwed, what run level are you now?
[00:07] <frew> 3
[00:08] <frew> Oblivion: it's really just that things aren't used to being in a container
[00:09] <Oblivion> frew cool
[00:09] <frew> ok I gotta get out of here
[00:09] <frew> thanks again!
[00:10] <siwica> Oblivion: I tried but it is hard for me to find the information on the website.
[00:11] <Oblivion> siwica if you want to keep close to upstream you can only use a rolling release of install from source yes
[00:11] <zzookk> hello, guys. http://cs622020.vk.me/v622020883/3964a/vsz-H__FNCM.jpg - whats wrong with this? dont work
[00:11] <Oblivion> *or
[00:12] <Oblivion> ^ dont follow that link
[00:12] <zzookk> what?
[00:12] <Hmmmph> Could anyone please offer advice?
[00:12] <Oblivion> ^ dont looks like a Drive by or watering hole attack
[00:12] <reisio> Hmmmph: brush your teeth
[00:13] <reisio> Oblivion: wha?
[00:13] <zzookk> Oblivion, its lnk on russian social network vk
[00:13] <Oblivion> I see alot of attacks on a daily basis and zzook looked dodgy
[00:14] <reisio> ...
[00:14] <reisio> zzookk: keys?
[00:14] <Hmmmph> reisio: Good advice. I already do. I meant though of course with my issue.
[00:14] <TJ-> zzookk: shouldn't it be 'send  "******\n"  ' ?
[00:14] <wileee> Hmmmph, Have some patience?
[00:14] <zzookk> TJ-, ***** - password
[00:14] <TJ-> zzookk: asking, not telling... not sure what is usual for the terminator - linefeed or carriage-return
[00:15] <Hmmmph> wileee: Sorry if I'm coming across as impatient. I don't mean to, it's just no one responded to any of my messages.
[00:15] <wileee> Hmmmph, free help volunteers we have no responsibility to answer. ;)
[00:15] <zzookk> TJ-, Oh, with \n nothing happened
[00:16] <Hmmmph> wileee: Sorry.
[00:16] <wileee> Hmmmph, just so you know is all, no biggie
[00:17] <Mija> Hmmmph: what is your question?
[00:17] <Oblivion> zzookk stop trying to exploit flash/java on Linux
[00:17] <Hmmmph> Just this problem has been bugging me for over a month and has rendered my computer difficult to use.
[00:17] <zzookk> Oblivion, u craz man
[00:17] <Hmmmph> Mija: I'm currently running an AMD HD 7770 graphics card, but can't seem to find any capable drivers for it.
[00:18] <wileee> Hmmmph, That may work with a therapist, they will smile and nod, here it may work against you. ;)
[00:18] <Hmmmph> I've installed a number ranging from the xorg to a selection of proprietary, but they're all prone to crashing software running or even my machine outright.
[00:19] <Hmmmph> I also can't get the correct resolution for my monitor.
[00:19] <zzookk> hello, guys. http://cs622020.vk.me/v622020883/3964a/vsz-H__FNCM.jpg - whats wrong with this? dont work
[00:19] <Hmmmph> wileee: Again, very sorry to be a bother.
[00:19] <Oblivion> Hmmmmph you talk shit :)
[00:19] <Oblivion> zzookk fuck of
[00:19] <Oblivion> *off
[00:20] <Oblivion> ^ bot
[00:20] <Mija> Hmmmph: check this out http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1929jz/any_one_using_a_amd_radeon_hd_7770/
[00:20] <Mija> beta driver but says it worked for them
[00:21] <Oblivion> ^its a bot
[00:21] <TJ-> zzookk: fixed it: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/test.expect
[00:21] <tarelerulz> What is the newest stable version of Ubuntu ?
[00:22] <Oblivion> tarelerulz 14.04
[00:22] <Mija> tarelfulz: wouldn't that be the current download on their site?
[00:22] <zzookk> TJ-, wow. great thnx
[00:22] <TJ-> tarelerulz:  14.04 is LTS, 15.04 is stable, 15.10 is development
[00:23] <Hmmmph> Mija: Unfortunately I've already played about quite a bit with Xorg. At times even Unity would fail to start. Thanks though.
[00:23] <Pici> zzookk: you really really really should be using key-based auth insteadl of using expect with ssh.
[00:24] <Mija> Hmmmph: Google says that card is a nightmare, I would use a diff card. Why waste your time...
[00:24] <zzookk> Pici: why?
[00:24] <Oblivion> zzookk sorry are ou really a human?
[00:24] <Pici> Oblivion: Knock it off.
[00:24] <meretrix> Anyone happen to know how well Ubuntu runs on the Surface 3 (non pro)?
[00:24] <zzookk> Oblivion, yep
[00:24] <Oblivion> Pici no I thought it was a bot why I was so rude
[00:24] <meretrix> Google is only turning up Surface Pro 3 results..
[00:25] <Mija> meretrix: finally and interesting question
[00:25] <meretrix> lol
[00:25] <Oblivion> zzookk sorry for my earlier comments
[00:25] <Pici> zzookk: because expect is the worst way of doing this. using a passwordless key is the standard way, and expect is not easy to get right, you won't handle any non-standard scenarios properly with that, and it will fail for you in weird ways.
[00:25] <TJ-> Pici: some devices won't support key auth; I have that with several embedded devices here such as CDUs, KVMs, etc.
[00:25] <zzookk> Oblivion, all ok, np.
[00:26] <Oblivion> zzookk cool
[00:26] <Hmmmph> Mija: I've looked into this, but AMD Support have been contemptible, the supplier have refused to take the thing back, and right now I have other things to spend my money on. I have looked into alternatives, and would if I could.
[00:26] <Pici> TJ-: sure, but doing expect by default is no good
[00:27] <zzookk> Pici, but ssh - free shell server. its not my. i dont afraid if smb will brute/hack it )
[00:27] <squinty> Hmmmph,  maybe related??  http://www.digit.in/forum/graphic-cards/161659-solved-screen-flickering-amd-hd-7770-monitor-not-recognized-os.html
[00:27] <Mija> Hmmmph: you have painted yourself into a corner, that card is obviously not widely used and short of a developer answering your question i think your are SOL
[00:28] <Pici> zzookk: but presumably your data will be on it if you are using it.
[00:28] <zzookk> Pici, use it only for traffic tunel
[00:29] <Oblivion> zzookk what you mean by  Pici, but ssh - free shell server. its not my. i dont afraid if smb will brute/hack it ) ? SSH isnt vunerable to any of those attacks, apart from maybe 0 day
[00:29] <Oblivion> zzookk smb doesent operate over ssh , althought it could be tunneled
[00:31] <Apteryx> Hello! In Evince, how can I get the hand tool back? To drag in any direction easily
[00:31] <zzookk> Pici told that expect login - not secure way, as i understood. so i told that it doesnt matter, coz of i only tunnel traffic. dont want anybody listen it on wifi spots
[00:32] <zzookk> i understood right? eng - not my native lang
[00:32] <Oblivion> zzookk so you have had a pcie check?
[00:33] <zzookk> what?)
[00:33] <Oblivion> zzookk *PCI
[00:34] <zzookk> dont understand what u r talking about, srr
[00:34] <matha> Greetings, I have been unable to stream on Netflix, prompted to install Silverlight then I have been unsuccesful in running the file after I download it(silverlight_x64.exe)  any ideas?  because I am running 32 bit OS?
[00:34] <Oblivion> zzookk your looking at hiding your tracks whilst hacking a network?
[00:34] <matha> fg
[00:35] <Hmmmph> squinty: Hadn't considered this. I am using a DVI-1 VGA adapter, but have used it on many machines in the past with no problems.
[00:35] <bubbasaures> matha, Should run in chrome I believe
[00:35] <matha> yes running in chrome
[00:36] <zzookk> Oblivion, i hide my traffic with ssh-tun from hackers in open wifi spots :)
[00:36] <TJ-> Hmmmph: check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" and see if the monitor reports a valid EDID set of modelines
[00:36] <wileee> matha, .exe is MS,
[00:37] <squinty> Hmmmph, the "solve" point was the adapter power connector which may not be a factor on another machine.  Anyways hope you solve the bug  :)
[00:37] <wileee> !netflix
[00:37] <Oblivion> zzookk dont know ssh-tun but always best to encrypt all your packets
[00:38] <wileee> matha, ^^^^ not sure if up to date is all
[00:38] <Oblivion> zzookk never use public wifi without a vpn
[00:38] <zzookk> Oblivion, vpn/ssh - same)
[00:39] <wileee> Oblivion, Please add in my opinion when giving them.
[00:39] <matha> ran this in Wine program loader and got bad EXE format for install.exe
[00:39] <Hmmmph> squinty: It's given something for me to think about. I'm a little sceptical, but will have a look into following the page's advice. Thanks a lot.
[00:39] <squinty> Hmmmph, yw :)
[00:40] <TJ-> Hmmmph: does the monitor report valid EDID?
[00:41] <squinty> !wine | matha
[00:41] <Oblivion> zzookk yeah there both encrypted. I cant think off the top of my head what vpn uses but SSH is SHA-2
[00:42] <Hmmmph> TJ: 'Cannot get  EDID information for CRT1'
[00:42] <TJ-> Hmmmph: OK, that explains your resolution issue then. You'd need to either fix that, or add an "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" with a Monitor and Screen section defining the frequencies the monitor can support
[00:43] <TJ-> Hmmmph: it's worth checking your DVI-I <> VGA adapter in case the DDC (data) pin has been messed up
[00:43] <Oblivion> zzookk I was referring to http/https/ftp/smtp traffic though
[00:43] <matha> thanks I will look at that... and the compholio solution
[00:44] <wileee> matha, https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/10/10/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-today/  be careful running after stuff, it supposedly works already.
[00:45] <microhaxo> Im having a problem. I cant resize windows, it works for like 2 seconds then nothing happens. and my cursor is huge now...
[00:45] <Oblivion> netflix < html 5
[00:45] <wileee> yep
[00:46] <Hmmmph> TJ: I have tried this in the past with regards to the resolution, but it only made things worse. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/877 I'm not sure how to proceed with regards to the screen resolution.
[00:46] <Hmmmph> TJ: with what you've just told me.
[00:46] <TJ-> Hmmmph: tell me the make/model of the monitor
[00:46] <Hmmmph> Not sure of the model.
[00:46] <Hmmmph> TJ: Make is Techwood.
[00:47] <Hmmmph> It's a TV, but with VGA input.
[00:47] <TJ-> Hmmmph: that is the vital bit, look on the maker's sticker on the back
[00:47] <TJ-> Hmmmph: what size screen does it have?
[00:48] <Hmmmph> TJ: Model is: 26/2443144
[00:48] <Oblivion> hmmmmph Ive come across that prob on a PI its the default resouloution of the tv dpui blah blah that caused the issue , dont know a fix for Ubuntu though
[00:49] <TJ-> Hmmmph: so page 26 of the user manual lists the resolutions and modes supported
[00:51] <Hmmmph> TJ: That's interesting. 1600x1200 is the max the card is allowing, but in the past I've gotten 1920x1080 and higher, on Windows mind.
[00:52] <Hmmmph> TJ: That may have been at 75Hz though.
[00:52] <Hmmmph> TJ: If I recall.
  hows it connected?
[00:53] <TJ-> Hmmmph: do you want to have the TV as the sole display, or working with another monitor?
[00:53] <Hmmmph> TJ: Sole display, which it is currently.
[00:54] <TJ-> Hmmmph: yes, the CRT on the TV will downscale some signals
[00:54] <TJ-> Hmmmph: OK, hang on a mo
[00:54] <Hmmmph> Oblivion: VGA cable using DVI-1 Converter.
 sounds lik the problem I had with my PI, its the TV thats the prob
[00:55] <TJ-> Hmmmph: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/techwood-26-2443144.conf
[00:55] <TJ-> Hmmmph: copy that into "/etc/X11"  - "sudo cp /tmp/techwood-26-2443144.conf /etc/X11/"
 not configured it in a long time, not had to , but hard coding your res in xorg.conf might fic
[00:56] <TJ-> Hmmmph: then create a sym-link to make it the active xorg.conf with "sudo ln -s techwood-26-2443144.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:56] <Hmmmph> Oblivion: Even with the crashes? Some games stutter, whilst others crash almost immediately upon starting. I find it a bit odd this would be caused by the monitor is all.
[00:57] <TJ-> Hmmmph: then log-out and back in so the xserver uses that config.... and then check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to check that config was both found and used
[00:57] <TJ-> Hmmmph: those issues sound unrelated to an incorrect resolution, they sound like drivers have been messed up
 You using steam I ask because you said games, not a monitor problem but a problem with the kernel communicating with the monitor to get the resouloution
[00:58] <Hmmmph> TJ: That was my original conclusion, but I can't get any driver I find working very well.
[00:59] <TJ-> Hmmmph: focus on one issue at a time :)
 what drivers you missing? linux dont have driver probs much these days
[01:00] <Hmmmph> TJ: I tried 'sudo cp /tmp/techwood-26-2443144.conf /etc/X11/', but I'm informed 'cp: cannot stat '/tmp/techwood-26-2443144.conf': No such file'
[01:00] <Oblivion> there allways in the kernel as binary blobs now
[01:01] <TJ-> Hmmmph: well, I was rather expecting you'd correct the source path to whereever you downloaded the file to!
[01:02] <Hmmmph> Oblivion: I'm not sure. I've tried different releases of xorg and catalyst, both via installation manually and through the 'Additional drivers' menu.
[01:03] <Hmmmph> TJ: I don't know where the file is. It really doesn't help the situation that I am terribly inexperienced with this depth of software.
 sounds like a bug o me , a good reason to stick to LTS, they changed alot of stuff in 15.04, mainly sytemd replacing upsatrt
[01:04] <TJ-> Hmmmph: did you download it with the browser? I'd expect it might be in $HOME/Downloads/
[01:05] <TJ-> Hmmmph: as to the PC crashes, I'd bet with 80% certainty that is caused by not having a sufficiently powerful PSU... the 7770 needs a lot of power
[01:06] <blackmatrix_ny> hi all...I get: "NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[01:06] <blackmatrix_ny> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware."
[01:06] <Hmmmph> TJ: No driver in downloads folder.
[01:06] <blackmatrix_ny> when trying to use win7 to create a bootable windows7 on a USB...anyone know how to fix it ?
[01:07] <craigbass76> When I start hydrogen, I'm fine.  When I start audacity afterward, it won't work unless I reboot.  I've tried restarting pulseaudio, but get no love.  I've got alsa mixer installed, but dont see a way to restart alsa
[01:07] <squinty> Hmmmph, fwiw, after clicking on TJ's link in firefox, only the contents of the file was displayed.  you may have to copy/paste said contents to a new file
[01:07] <TJ-> Hmmmph: did you download the file using Firefox? check it's Download icon, then highlight the filename, and choose Open containing folder
[01:07] <Hmmmph> TJ: So stuttering and resolution possibly result of VGA adapter and TV, and crashing perhaps a result of insufficient PSU.
[01:07] <Oblivion> blackmatrix_ny you get that when?
[01:08] <Hmmmph> TJ: I did but I can't find it.
[01:08] <Oblivion> blackmatrix_>> /dev/null
[01:08] <TJ-> Hmmmph: if you are on the page I linked yo to, you need to do File > Save Page As ... (or right-click)
[01:08] <blackmatrix_ny> Oblivion, when I try to create a bootable win7 usb stick using the app winusb
[01:08] <squinty> Hmmmph,  don't forget faulty power connector too (as per the article  4 pins verses 6 pins iirc)
[01:08] <Oblivion> blackmatrix_>> /dev/null
[01:09] <blackmatrix_ny> Oblivion, or is there a better application to create a bootable win7 usb
[01:09] <TJ-> blackmatrix_ny: try ##windows ... this channel is for Ubuntu support
[01:09] <Oblivion> blackmatrix_not winshit support
[01:09] <Hmmmph> squinty: Right.
[01:09] <blackmatrix_ny> TJ-, I'm on ubuntu :-)
[01:09] <TJ-> Oblivion: please moderate your language and attitude
[01:09] <Hmmmph> TJ: Could you link the page again? So sorry.
[01:09] <Oblivion> blackmatrix_ok dont! :)
[01:10] <lucas-arg> hey guys, is there any way to put a menu in unity?
[01:10] <TJ-> blackmatrix_ny: you can be on your bike, but your question is about Windows!
[01:10] <TJ-> Hmmmph: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/techwood-26-2443144.conf
[01:10] <blackmatrix_ny> TJ-, I can create a bootable ubuntu usb using the app but I can't create a win7. I need it to fix a friends pc
 yes but you would need to know how to code and read code then recompile code
[01:11] <TJ-> blackmatrix_ny: but we're not the winusb support channel
[01:11] <thebot> hello
[01:11] <Hmmmph> TJ: Done. Thanks.
[01:11] <lucas-arg> Oblivion: how about classicmenu-indicator?
[01:11] <TJ-> Hmmmph: do you want me to repeat the instructions?
[01:11] <blackmatrix_ny> TJ-, but I'm on a ubuntu system running a ubuntu app (winusb)
 you mean kernel args?
[01:12] <TJ-> !info winusb
[01:12] <lucas-arg> Oblivion: i need a menu... in unity... a menu like STAR menu button
[01:12] <blackmatrix_ny> TJ-, I was able to create a bootable ubuntu usb using a windows system a long time ago, I would think it is possible to create a bootable windows usb using a linux system
[01:12] <thebot> just a simple question, does Ubuntu Phone have bluetooth support for simple HID devices like Keyboards?
[01:12] <bubbasaures> lucas-arg, The gnome fallback de is  a pseudo gnome 2, the shell has a a couple of menu addons.
 yes but you would need to know how to code and read code then recompile code
[01:12] <Hmmmph> TJ: I'm currently giving it a go.
[01:12] <guest_> Does anyone know of a channel where I can get tech support regarding Windows?
[01:12] <hack-wizard> Hey, I installed XFCE on Ubuntu Server and I want to set up menulibre like on my laptop, which has xubuntu installed, how would I do this?
[01:13] <bubbasaures> !touch | thebot
[01:13] <bubbasaures> guest_, ##windows
[01:13] <Oblivion> hack-wizard why x11 on a server?
[01:13] <thebot> Thanks
[01:13] <blackmatrix_ny> TJ-, my other option is loading up a windows on a VM and using it to create the bootable disk but Im sure there are ways to do it on ubuntu
[01:13] <TJ-> blackmatrix_ny: if an ISO supports hybrid boot loaders (ISO9660/El Torito/MBR/GPT) then simply copying the ISO image to the USB is sufficient, using any tool (e.g. dd, cat)
[01:13] <Oblivion> hack-wizard use ssh and x11 forwarding
[01:13] <guest_> bubbasaures, thanks
[01:14] <hack-wizard> @Oblivion: Because I happen to have a nice monitor connected to it and I want to administer it from the box itself
[01:14] <Oblivion> hack-wizard unsecure server
[01:14] <blackmatrix_ny> TJ-, I tried that and got an error. Is there a specific format the usb has to be before I run the dd command ?
[01:14] <Hmmmph> TJ: I'm currently learning how to use the console to navigate directories. Having some trouble getting to my downloads folder.
[01:14] <Oblivion> hack-wizard x11 has design flaws for remote access
[01:14] <bubbasaures> blackmatrix_ny, A usb, ntfs partiton with a bootflag and mount the iso in ubuntu and extract to the usb.
[01:15] <Hmmmph> TJ: Again, I apologise.
[01:15] <TJ-> blackmatrix_ny: no format at all, the ISO image *must* be written to the raw device, not a partition (e.g. /dev/sdc *not* /dev/sdc1)
[01:15] <TJ-> Hmmmph: "cd $HOME/Downloads"
[01:15] <squinty> blackmatrix_ny,  might also want to check out  pendrivelinux.com   they have software and tutorials there
[01:15] <hack-wizard> Oblivion: Ok, so how would I get the same interface on the screen without making it insecure?
[01:15] <zxjcarrot>  
[01:16] <blackmatrix_ny> Thanks guys. Let me check all options given to me and will report back
[01:17] <lucas-arg> Oblivion: like this http://pasteboard.co/2kHpmZYw.png
[01:17] <TJ-> blackmatrix_ny: typically I'd do "sudo dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdz bs=100M oflag=direct,dsync iflag=fullblock conv=fdatasync,fsync"
[01:17] <Oblivion> hack-wizard as long as your running a Linux desktop ssh -Y user@host would log you into an ssh session, but as long as its installed on the server if you type i.e firefox it wil load firefox on your desktop but from the server
[01:17] <canaimero4> i am problemj
[01:17] <canaimero4> kn
[01:18] <blackmatrix_ny> Thanks again TJ-
[01:18] <Hmmmph> TJ: Thanks. I'm trying to open the file, but it's telling me command not found.
[01:18] <TJ-> Hmmmph: what command are you trying to use?
[01:18] <bubbasaures> blackmatrix_ny, I like this loader, always works here. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[01:19] <hack-wizard> Oblivion ok then, so would it be a good idea to just set up  virtual server then?  I also need to use this install as a desktop, limited hardware here
[01:19] <bubbasaures> ah missed the dd command doh
[01:20] <TJ-> Hmmmph: If you saved to the "Downloads" folder from the Browser's Save Page As ... dialog, then in a terminal you can do "sudo cp $HOME/Downloads/techwood-26-2443144.conf /etc/X11/"
[01:21] <Hmmmph> TJ: I've just typed in exactly that and I think it's done it.
[01:22] <Oblivion> hack-wizard depends on a few things, is it that precious, what could it be used for, how sensitvive is my data?
[01:22] <Hmmmph> TJ: Yes. The file is there. I appreciate your help and patience.
[01:23] <TJ-> Hmmmph: good, now lets check there isn't already an xorg.conf: "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:24] <Hmmmph> TJ: has replied '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:24] <canaimero4> yes
[01:24] <hack-wizard> oblivion well I just wanted to do non-sensitive desktop tasks on it (plus some gaming since it's the only sys I have with a GPU) and on the server side I just wanted to have a my own dedicated web hosting for developing my own web sites
[01:25] <Oblivion> wow xorg.conf havent had to configure that in years
[01:25] <TJ-> Hmmmph: OK, we might need to preserve that. I need to see it first, too. can you do "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and tell me the URI it returns
[01:26] <TJ-> Oblivion: it's still very useful for anything even slightly exotic
[01:26] <Hmmmph> program not installed
[01:27] <Hmmmph> TJ: Gonna do it through website.
[01:27] <Oblivion> hack-wizard so as I said before way up the risk and deploy the required protection . Im putting that in laymans but if you need any help with anything specific send me a private
[01:28] <Hmmmph> TJ: http://pastebin.ca/3081179
[01:30] <Oblivion> Thinks Ubuntu needs to stick with an LTS kernel
[01:33] <TJ-> Hmmmph: OK, I'm going to add the Techwood settings to that file, and give you a link to the new file
[01:33] <Hmmmph> Thanks
[01:35] <Oblivion> is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[01:35] <Oblivion> !ubuntu-dev
[01:36] <TJ-> Hmmmph: OK, https://iam.tj/projects/misc/xorg.conf
[01:37] <Oblivion> !ubuntu development
[01:37] <Oblivion> !ubuntu development
[01:37] <Oblivion> !ubottu dont know much
[01:38] <Hmmmph> TJ: How could I open xorg through the terminal?
[01:39] <TJ-> Hmmmph: all in one step: "sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf   https://iam.tj/projects/misc/xorg.conf"
[01:41] <Hmmmph> TJ: 'wget: invalid option -- '0' '
[01:42] <TJ-> Oh not Zero
[01:42] <Hmmmph> TJ: Sorry
[01:43] <Hmmmph> TJ: 'Scheme missing'
[01:44] <TJ-> Hmmmph: huh? what is that from?
[01:45] <Hmmmph> TJ: Best you see. http://www.pastebin.ca/index.php
[01:45] <Oblivion> hmmmph your -0 should be -O
[01:45] <Hmmmph> TJ: http://pastebin.ca/3081197
[01:45] <Hmmmph> right
[01:47] <TJ-> Hmmmph: all in one step: "sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf   https://iam.tj/projects/misc/xorg.conf"
[01:47] <Hmmmph> TJ: Oh I think it's done something.
[01:47] <Oblivion> hmmmph dont run wget as sudo
[01:47] <TJ-> Oblivion: please don't interfere. We're saving one step
[01:47] <Oblivion> hmmmph learn why you shouldnt use sudo inapropriatly
[01:48] <TJ-> Hmmmph: did you type the command *exactly* as I wrote it inside the " ... " ?
[01:48] <Hmmmph> I'm aware it initiates an administrative mode that allows for more screwing about.
[01:48] <Hmmmph> TJ: I think so.
[01:48] <TJ-> Hmmmph: you either know so, or you don't :)
[01:49] <Hmmmph> TJ: It's the O
[01:49] <TJ-> Hmmmph: the pastebin you showed me didn't have the complete URI either!
[01:49] <Hmmmph> TJ: It appears as I would expect a zero on my screen
[01:49] <Oblivion> hmmmph which is becoming m$ attempt in vista when clicking ok gave you sudo , which same as secure boot is easily over ridden
[01:50] <TJ-> Hmmmph: line 16 of that pastebin is incomplete
[01:51] <Hmmmph> TJ: http://pastebin.ca/3081202
[01:52] <notafads> hey guys im running into an issue with openssh-server cannot seem to connect to it externally
[01:52] <notafads> set up port forwarding and my ISP does not block 22
[01:52] <Oblivion> isnt there a script you can run that generates xorg.conf , these days
[01:52] <Oblivion> sure I came upon once upon a time
[01:53] <Hmmmph> TJ: Line 21 onwards
[01:54] <TJ-> Hmmmph: that's better :) ... OK, so if you now do "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you should the new Monitor section "Tech26"
[01:56] <Hmmmph> TJ: http://pastebin.ca/3081208
[01:57] <drfoobaz> Hi, my sound only plays if the program trying to play sound is run as root. My user is in the audio, pulse, and pulse-audio groups too. What should I do?
[01:57] <TJ-> Hmmmph: good. so now you can test it by logging-out and back in
[01:58] <Hmmmph> TJ: Not a restart?
[01:58] <Oblivion> 6 its not windows
[01:58] <Oblivion> ^its not windows
[01:59] <TJ-> Hmmmph: No, just log-out which restarts the X server
[01:59] <TJ-> Hmmmph: in theory the drivers should now be able to select the most appropriate mode, which ought to be 166x1200
[02:00] <TJ-> Hmmmph: err, 1600x1200 even!
[02:02] <teward> is there a way to blacklist a specific package so it can never be installed
[02:02] <drfoobaz> teward: I don't know, but why would you ever want to do that?
[02:02] <TJ-> teward: pin to a non-existent version
[02:02] <Hmmmph> TJ: But I was already in 1600x1200.
[02:03] <teward> drfoobaz: because the -59-generic kernel on trusty is broken and i want to blacklist that specific package
[02:03] <teward> TJ-: that'd work xD
[02:03] <Hmmmph> TJ: My hope was to push it above that because I know the monitor can and has done it.
[02:03] <TJ-> Hmmmph: Right, but now the driver can select any valid modes.
[02:03] <drfoobaz> Does anyone know why sound would only play in programs run as root, even when my user is in all the right groups (audio, pulse, pulse-access)?
[02:03] <Hmmmph> TJ: Did as you said btw.
[02:04] <TJ-> Hmmmph: The TV's maximum resolution is 1600x1200, you can't get more than that!
[02:04] <Hmmmph> TJ: But I have done.
[02:04] <TJ-> Hmmmph: if you try to send a higher resolution the TV will dither and scale it
[02:04] <Hmmmph> TJ: I used to use a Windows 7 machine that ran this same monitor at 1920x1080
[02:04] <TJ-> Hmmmph: but it won't be 1:1 pixels, you'll lose information
[02:05] <Hmmmph> TJ: Right. And is this complete?
[02:06] <TJ-> Hmmmph: you send 1920x1080 to it, 320 pixels of resolution is lost due to the scaling
[02:06] <bubbasaures> drfoobaz, running apps in root needs a bit oh context here.
[02:06] <TJ-> Hmmmph: Check with "xrandr -q" to see the list of valid modes the  VGA output will support
[02:06] <Oblivion> drfoobaz your not in wheel?
[02:07] <drfoobaz> Oblivion: Wheel?
[02:07] <bubbasaures> drfoobaz, only seems to be the key word, you might list what you've tried and apps.
[02:07] <brucelee> anyone know why i tried to apt-get install python-httplib2 last week and it was fine, but this week it asked that "this package is untrusted"
[02:08] <Hmmmph> TJ: Is at 1600x1200 60Hz
[02:08] <drfoobaz> bubbasaures: At first, I couldn't even get alsamixer or amixer to work. I then added my user to audio, pulse, and pulse-access and that worked. Now, sound only plays as root (firefox and mpv so far).
[02:08] <bubbasaures> brucelee, you missing the repo key?
[02:09] <Oblivion> drfoobaz iirc its the way things like dbus and gksu/kdesu authenticate
[02:09] <TJ-> Hmmmph: right, which is what the manual says it can support. We've told the driver the range of signal frequencies the TV will accept, and it has figured out which modes are valid for that range
[02:09] <drfoobaz> Oblivion: I don't have any wheel group.
[02:09] <brucelee> bubbasaures: how do i check
[02:10] <bubbasaures> brucelee, show us the error and all involved text.
[02:10] <Hmmmph> TJ: Right. Thanks ever so much for your help.
[02:10] <bubbasaures> !pastebin | brucelee
[02:10] <Hmmmph> TJ: And I really appreciate your time and patience.
[02:11] <TJ-> Hmmmph: for your other issues, carefully check the rating of the PSU and make sure it's claimed max rating is at least 125% of the requirements of the PC, CPU+GPU
[02:11] <brucelee> bubbasaures: ok
[02:11] <Hmmmph> TJ: Right.
[02:12] <brucelee> bubbasaures: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3026ec2e675447f299c8
[02:12] <Hmmmph> TJ: And check power adapter
[02:12] <Hmmmph> TJ: Sorry, the VGA DVI-1 Adapter.
[02:12] <Hmmmph> TJ: Thanks ever so much for your help.
[02:13] <TJ-> Hmmmph: checking the DVI-I <> VGA adapter is only in case pins are broken/bent out, and that might explain the lack of EDID info on the DDC pin, but I doubt that would cause the PC to glitch
[02:13] <bubbasaures> brucelee, You add a repo for that package like a ppa, an sudo apt-get update  would probably help us posted.
[02:14] <Hmmmph> TJ: But it might cause stuttering?
[02:14] <Hmmmph> TJ: of the picture?
[02:14] <TJ-> Hmmmph: no... DDC is just a digital data line for the display and GPU to talk to each other on for configuration
[02:14] <microhaxo> I have a goofy problem. Every time i close an app in ubuntu i hear some weird crackly noise
[02:15] <microhaxo> but in sound settings i have sounds muted for effects
[02:15] <TJ-> VGA is an analogue signal sending Red, Green, and Blue colour components on separate wires
[02:15] <Hmmmph> TJ: So you would put the stuttering down to the PSU as well?
[02:16] <brucelee> bubbasaures: how do you know we have to add a repo for that package?
[02:16] <bubbasaures> brucelee, looks like a ppa package you gotta add the ppa's key
[02:16] <TJ-> Hmmmph: I'd call it 50/50 on whether it was power related or driver issues, but as the PC is also crashing, I'd fall on the side of power issues without other evidence
[02:16] <brucelee> bubbasaures:  iguess the question is why is it not trusted with just ubuntu's regular repos? and why in the period of the last week it started giving this "untrusted" message
[02:16] <bubbasaures> brucelee, I expect you to know really.
[02:16] <brucelee> bubbasaures: how do you tell its a ppa package? i see it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python-httplib2
[02:17] <brucelee> bubbasaures: yah thats why im confused and trying to find out...
[02:17] <brucelee> not sure why sometime last week it worked, but this week it gives this message
[02:17] <Hmmmph> TJ: Right. That gives me other options to look into.
[02:17] <brucelee> bubbasaures: could it be that the package was updated since then? can't seem to find anything that indicates so
[02:17] <TJ-> brucelee: what does "apt-cache policy python-httplib2" report?
[02:18] <brucelee> TJ-:  let me check
[02:18] <brucelee> according to changelog http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/python-httplib2/python-httplib2_0.8-2build1/changelog, it says last updated 2014 :/
[02:18] <brucelee> let me run that command TJ-
[02:18] <bubbasaures> brucelee, Your obsessing on the worked now doesn't without any realization of what you've done, a missing repo key causes this.
[02:18] <bubbasaures> could be a system error but highly unlikely
[02:19] <brucelee> bubbasaures: the reason is because i install this package after a fresh ubuntu installation. last week it was the same fresh ubuntu installation, this week its the same. Nothing really changed on my end, thats why im suspecting its something that changed on the other end
[02:19] <Hmmmph> TJ: Thanks ever so much. Bye :)
[02:19] <TJ-> Hmmmph: coincidentally I had been reading about the extreme PSU requirements of GPUs like that one, and the recommendation is to have a very good beefy PSU... 1000 watts or more in some cases... as I said, figure out the maximum power draw of CPU + GPU + all other devices (MB, disk drives, USB) and then add a 25% margin to figure out if the PSU can cope
[02:20] <brucelee> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ae122c27cf38a07ea41a
[02:20] <TJ-> brucelee: no changes to that package since Feb 2014
[02:21] <brucelee> TJ-: yeah, weird... did i somehow lose the keys like bubbasaures was mentioning?
[02:22] <TJ-> brucelee: does that warning occur for any other packages?
[02:22] <brucelee> TJ-: i dont think so, let me try a different package
[02:23] <brucelee> TJ-: yeah, i get that same message even for vim
[02:23] <dinoocch> Hi, we have a computer that is taking an abnormally long time for lightdm to come up - logging in from a tty takes a substantial amount of time as well.
[02:23] <TJ-> brucelee: sounds like a keyring issue. what does "dpkg -l ubuntu-keyring" report?
[02:24] <TJ-> dinoocch: does the kernel log indicate some issues, such as disk I/O errors?
[02:25] <Odd-rationale> !ping
[02:25] <brucelee> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/af1079c56b2aea9a6e9c
[02:25] <brucelee> TJ-: we're onto something? :p
[02:26] <TJ-> brucelee: that's correct. Now let's check the files installed are good: "pastebinit <( sha256sum $(dpkg -L ubuntu-keyring)  )"
[02:26] <brucelee> TJ-: not sure if this would affect anything but its also going through a proxy for apt-get i believe. it's set to do it in /etc/apt/apt.cofn
[02:28] <TJ-> brucelee: HAHA! that'd do it if the proxy is being naughty
[02:29] <yhkim> hi
[02:29] <brucelee> TJ-: ah.. yeah i dont have pastebinit installed, and tried to install it even though theres no verification
[02:29] <TJ-> brucelee: if the proxy has held a broken package but doesn't realise ..
[02:30] <TJ-> brucelee: OK, you can pastebin the ouput of the commands manually...  I was trying to make it easier for you
[02:30] <Ububegin> when I installed Ubuntu, my desktop just had a ssd drive... after which I added SATA drives.. Currently, one of the app I am running is writing logs to a ssd drive at (/opt/cm4.3/logs) and it is running out..  How can i map the /opt/cm4.3/ to the SATA hdd instead ?
[02:30] <brucelee> TJ-: and low and behold, it freezes here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4bf207d8ed4a36874149
[02:30] <brucelee> TJ-: i think theres something up with teh apt-cacher-ng
[02:30] <TJ-> brucelee: fix the proxy :)
[02:30] <brucelee> :p
[02:31] <brucelee> TJ-: l33t ubuntu skills :P
[02:31] <TJ-> but not so bruce-lee!
[02:31] <brucelee> not sure what to do, i guess ill restart the service :o
[02:31] <brucelee> or delete the cache
[02:31] <dinoocch> TJ- No problems there :/
[02:32] <TJ-> dinoocch: for TTY log-ins I can understand that the uatomated update-motd scripts can cause delays generating the motd, since they will do a package upgrade check
[02:32] <lwizardl> hello
[02:32] <reisio> 'lo
[02:32] <mbff> Hello! I was deleting some files off a ntfs drive when I got a "rm cannot remove directory not empty".  All the posts I see about this issue blame hardware however the issue is only present on a particular folder.
[02:33] <mbff> Any ideas for delete the bad folder?
[02:33] <dinoocch> TJ-: it is any service that needs to su, seems like...even sudo commands take a long time to execute
[02:33] <TJ-> dinoocch:  but a delay for lightdm wouldn't get that; best thing to do is analyse the time-stamps in /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog... look for long delays between messages that might indicate something causing a freeze
[02:34] <TJ-> dinoocch: aaahhh..... name resolution!
[02:34] <dinoocch> we have full dns and can confirm it is working
[02:34] <lwizardl> I was wondering if there is a trick to removing ubuntu from a uefi bios system menu. I have a system that has win8 and ubuntu on it but the ubuntu install didn't work and it still has the boot menu.
[02:36] <TJ-> dinoocch: is the system hostname (/etc/hostname) also in /etc/hosts against the "127.0.1.1 ..." entry?
[02:36] <rodhash> Guys .. having trouble with NetworkManager, which doesn't accept my password ... any idea pls?
[02:36] <Ububegin> when I installed Ubuntu, my desktop just had a ssd drive... after which I added SATA drives.. Currently, one of the app I am running is writing logs to a ssd drive at (/opt/cm4.3/logs) and it is running out..  How can i map the /opt/cm4.3/ to the SATA hdd instead ?
[02:36] <dinoocch> TJ-: Checking, but wouldn't that throw additional issues and errors, especially with sudo?
[02:37] <wileee> rodhash, Try clearing it and adding it again.
[02:37] <TJ-> lwizardl: if the UEFI boot-manager doesn't allow you to remove it via an internal shell, you could install the EDK EFI shell to the EFI System Partition, boot to that, and then use the bootmgr in it to delete the Ubuntu entry
[02:38] <TJ-> dinoocch: it might depend on the "hosts" resolution order in /etc/nsswitch.conf
[02:39] <lwizardl> tj, thanks I will look into that. it is my nieces system and she wants to upgrade to the new OS and I want to revert to factory first
[02:40] <TJ-> lwizardl: I think there's a Windows tool for editing the UEFI boot menu, too
[02:41] <lwizardl> tj, Makes senses there would be, but I dont use windows so didnt think about that might be an option
[02:43] <Guest44868> hello
[02:43] <brucelee> TJ-: restarted apt-cacher-ng and it seems im able to download the packages again but it still thinks its untrusted
[02:43] <dinoocch> TJ-: /etc/hosts is fine, as is /etc/nsswitch.conf, hosts are up and recognized
[02:44] <TJ-> brucelee: clear out the apt-cacher cache
[02:44] <TJ-> lwizardl: you can get the Tianocore EDK shell from https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-ShellBinPkg/tree/master/UefiShell/X64
[02:45] <TJ-> dinoocch: anything going on with LDAP/PAM ?
[02:45] <lwizardl> TJ-, thanks again. I also found eayuefi says it can edit the menu
[02:46] <TJ-> lwizardl: if you install it to the EFI system partition as "\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI" that's the 'simple boot path' for removable media, and you shuld be able to get into it simply by telling the system boot menu to boot the drive, rather than the Windows entry
[02:47] <TJ-> lwizardl: yes, probably easier for a novice to use, too
[02:47] <dinoocch> TJ-: We are using Kerberos for authentication with an ldap backend. Pam handles the authentication. The only thing we suspect might be the cause is pam_mount, however, that should not be affecting local logins (and the same configuration works on all our other machines)...
[02:47] <TJ-> dinoocch: another log to check :)  "/var/log/auth.log"
[02:48] <lwizardl> tj, yup when it comes to uefi i can admit i'm a noob at it
[02:48] <TJ-> lwizardl: I just keep the manuals up on 1 screen and type on another :D
[02:48] <wileee> TJ-, Doh, you've outed yourself. ;)
[02:49] <TJ-> wileee: shhh!
[02:50] <inOrbit> Hey there, I'm trying to get Guvcview to work, but when I try to open it, nothing happens... unless i have another webcam program working, then it tells me it can't start with minimum setup
[02:51] <inOrbit> i've tried restarting and unplugging and replugging in the cam like it says but for some reason, guvcview is the only one that won't work, and I kinda need that one to run
[02:51] <TJ-> inOrbit: if I recall correctly, if you want to use any device other than /dev/video0 you have to pass the device name on the command line.
[02:52] <inOrbit> i'm not running from a command line, i just click on it from the menu
[02:52] <inOrbit> im using lubuntu if that makes a difference
[02:52] <TJ-> inOrbit: try it from the command line
[02:53] <TJ-> inOrbit: from the desktop launcher it'll be defaulting to /dev/video0 - if the PC has more than 1 video device that might not be the webcam
[02:55] <dotnetted_alt> Hey all - I have Ubuntu 15.04 installed alongside Windows 8 -- Ubuntu boots fine but Windows is not listed in grub - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11963654/ -- I have tried the recommended settings in `boot-repair` and `grub-update` --- Any ideas appreciated- Thanks!
[02:56] <inOrbit> christ i don't even know where it is
[02:56] <dotnetted_alt> I can browse /dev/sdb1 inside Ubuntu (had to remove_hiberfile first)
[02:59] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: I'd suggest it's because the file-system is marked dirty so the system will not mount /dev/sdb1 and therefore GRUB's os-prober will not discover the Windows boot manager
[03:00] <dinoocch> TJ-: auth log shows no anomoly's...sorry for the delay...it took 12 minutes to su up .
[03:00] <reisio> it's pretty awesome when Windows marks an FS dirty
[03:00] <TJ-> dinoocch: sheesh... that bad? I'd put a tap on the network, see if the LDAP lookups are hanging for some reason!
[03:00] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: "Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount."
[03:01] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: Thanks for the response - Missed that part heh
[03:01] <dotnetted_alt> I'm guessing it's not an easy fix to clean it up
[03:01] <dinoocch> TJ-: The server will kill a query after 30 seconds regardless of if it gets filled.
[03:02] <mobile3> any php master here ??
[03:02] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: do a manual Windows boot, full Windows shutdown, back into Ubuntu and update-grub
[03:02] <inOrbit> alison@FredII:~$ ./program /usr/bin/guvcview
[03:02] <inOrbit> bash: ./program: No such file or directory
[03:02] <inOrbit> it keeps saying no such file or directory but im looking at the program right now
[03:02] <reisio> mobile3: #php
[03:02] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: would I be manually booting into windows via the grub console?
[03:03] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: to start Windows manually, you'd need to hold down Shift at boot to get the GRUB menu, press 'c' to get the GRUB command line... identify which GRUB device represents the Windows boot partition, and do something like "chainload (hd1,1)+1"
[03:03] <inOrbit> okay I'm sorry i got it now, it gave me a hole big... thing, do you want me to copy/paste it?
[03:03] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: Thanks for the info :) -- I'll give it a go now
[03:04] <TJ-> inOrbit: that might help :)
[03:05] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: there's instructions here https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Chain_002dloading.html
[03:05] <inOrbit> alison@FredII:~$ guvcview 1.7.3
[03:05] <inOrbit> file guvcview_video.mkv has extension type 1
[03:05] <inOrbit> file guvcview_image.jpg has extension type 0
[03:05] <inOrbit> file guvcview_image.jpg has extension type 0
[03:05] <inOrbit> Video file suffix detected: 0
[03:05] <inOrbit> Image file suffix detected: 1
[03:05] <inOrbit> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1022:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[03:05] <TJ-> !paste | inOrbit
[03:06] <inOrbit> it's saying i'm not voiced
[03:06] <inOrbit> paste.ubuntu.com/11963715/
[03:06] <inOrbit> there
[03:07] <TJ-> inOrbit: that looks good so far, it's opened /dev/video0
[03:07] <inOrbit> well that's good to hear, but that's all it gave me, the program worked fine a few weeks ago
[03:08] <inOrbit> i mainly need guvcview because i use it for streaming, it's the only webcam program that I know if that has the video view in a separate window from the options, i basically just need that (if that makes sense)
[03:09] <TJ-> inOrbit: did the program exit after that?
[03:09] <inOrbit> it never actually started
[03:09] <inOrbit> so yeah i guess maybe it's just exiting right away
[03:09] <TJ-> inOrbit: "drawing controls" suggests it began writing to screen
[03:10] <TJ-> inOrbit:  I wonder if the program has saved a user config file that has some bad settings in?
[03:10] <inOrbit> well i deleted it, and restarted the program hoping it'd just make a new one, and it did but it didn't help much
[03:11] <TJ-> inOrbit: OK, you're ahead of me then :)
[03:11] <inOrbit> (deleted it meaning the config file)
[03:12] <TJ-> inOrbit: let's do some diagnostics. use this command, type everything inside the double quotes exactly: "strace -f guvcview |& tee /tmp/guvcview.log"
[03:13] <inOrbit> well we crashed something
[03:13] <inOrbit> strace
[03:13] <TJ-> inOrbit: what do you mean by 'crashed' ?
[03:13] <inOrbit> i got a pop up that it stopped unexpectatly
[03:14] <TJ-> inOrbit: That suggests your entire system has problems of some sort... possibly corrupted shared libraries
[03:14] <inOrbit> well it spat out a lot of stuff but i can't even copy/paste it all cause it's too large, the terminal will only go so high
[03:15] <TJ-> inOrbit: That command was logging the strace output to a file. paste that file using "pastebinit /tmp/guvcview.log"
[03:17] <inOrbit> paste.ubuntu.com/11963740/
[03:19] <vcavallo> hi
[03:21] <vcavallo> bye
[03:21] <TJ-> inOrbit: well, that confirms there's some major issue. a SIGSEGV means an attempt to access an address in memory that is not allowed. It shouldn't happen. That can be due to bad application configuration or bugs, or even hardware memory faults
[03:22] <inOrbit> that's weird, i only ever have issues with this program, i just got a new motherboard a year ago, everything should be fine
[03:22] <inOrbit> like i said, the program worked a couple weeks ago, i just figured it was some compatibility issues with an update
[03:23] <TJ-> inOrbit: as I said earlier, corruption of an executable file (or shared library) could cause it... have you tried reinstalling the application and its dependencies?
[03:24] <inOrbit> well since i'm using lubuntu, it won't let me uninstall this program, it says if I uninstall it, i have to uninstall lubuntu as well
[03:24] <inOrbit> cause it came with lubuntu
[03:24] <Gotolei> a recent kernel update broke wine, and if I boot into an older kernel bumblebee doesn't work
[03:24] <Gotolei> is there a way to make the nvidia kernel module(s) recompile for the older version
[03:25] <Gotolei> or whatever changes with kernel updates?
[03:25] <toph> whats the command to change my super w from web browser to chromium?
[03:25] <toph> It doesn't like chromium-browser
[03:26] <Ben64> toph: what?
[03:26] <TJ-> inOrbit: how about "sudo apt-get --reinstall install guvcview"
[03:26] <toph> i'm trying to change my super w command to launch chromium instead of firefox.
[03:26] <inOrbit> ill try that then
[03:26] <toph> right now it's exo-open --launch WebBrowser
[03:26] <toph> that launches firefox.
[03:26] <Ben64> toph: ok so go into whatever keyboard shortcut thingy you've got going on
[03:26] <toph> I'm trying to change it to launch Chromium when I hit super+w
[03:27] <toph> I've tried editing WebBrowser for Chromium Web Browser, Chromium-browser, etc.
[03:27] <inOrbit> no, didn't work
[03:27] <Ben64> toph: or try something like this http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/exo/preferred-applications
[03:28] <TJ-> inOrbit: you might need to do that with several of the dependencies, which have the libraries it uses
[03:28] <inOrbit> i guess i wouldn't know which ones
[03:28] <TJ-> inOrbit: what does this report "dpkg -l libavcodec*"
[03:28] <inOrbit> oh well.. here's something
[03:29] <toph> that worked, ben.
[03:29] <toph> thanks!
[03:29] <inOrbit> no packages found matching libavcodec
[03:29] <inOrbit> i need that don't I?  That's weird, i should have that
[03:30] <TJ-> inOrbit: that'll be it... guvcview depends on 1 of 2, see "apt-cache depends guvcview"
[03:30] <tjbiddle> Hey all - Anyway to run part of an upstart script as root/sudo and another as the actual user? I want to read in some environment variable from a 0600'd file, but pass them along to the user
[03:30] <inOrbit> i don't understand how they got removed, this is so weird, but ill try to reinstall them
[03:31] <tjbiddle> Or can suggest an alternative route to go? I'm keeping some passwords on disk, but keep them only readable to root.
[03:32] <TJ-> tjbiddle: use dbus
[03:32] <TJ-> tjbiddle: the user session can use the system dbus  to make requests for data from a privileged process
[03:33] <inOrbit> is there by chance something i can just run from the terminal for these?
[03:33] <sheap> my debconf doesn't seem to change (when I change from string to select, for example) and keeps saying that my answer for the first question is "yes". Is there some cache that I need to clear?
[03:33] <tjbiddle> TJ-: Could you provide an example/resource to read on? I'm unfamiliar with dbus so unsure what to be looking for
[03:35] <tjbiddle> TJ-: This sounds like I'd be able to expose the file I have specifically to upstart/init and only upstart/init so that the underlying user the service is running under wouldn't be able to access it?
[03:36] <xtrabet> .....are you guys real human .....?   First time using IRC....
[03:36] <TJ-> tjbiddle: I'm struggling to find an easy example, but dbus provides Private Connections for this kind of situation, to sercurely pass data
[03:37] <tjbiddle> xtrabet: Hell xtrabet. My name is tjbiddle. What is your task for me? Type help for a list of commands.
[03:37] <TJ-> tjbiddle: correct, the root process would be have a dbus service and the user would make a dbus query
[03:39] <bev> hi how can I ck my  hard drive
[03:39] <TJ-> tjbiddle: there's an interesting client-side Python example here http://www.indilib.org/support/tutorials/148-dbus-scripting-with-kstars-python.html
[03:40] <carte> lkh
[03:40] <carte> hi
[03:40] <inOrbit> i installed these /launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libav/6:11-1/+build/6412722 and it told me i had them all installed but i reinstalled anyway and it still won't work and still says i don't have those packages
[03:40] <bev> xubuntu  how can I ck my  hard drive
[03:42] <tjbiddle> TJ-: Interesting. Okay - I think it might be a bit complex for my use-case; but definitely interesting to know about. Thanks!
[03:43] <TJ-> tjbiddle: yeah, always the case there's never a simple example script when you need it :)
[03:43] <squinty> bev:  Disks ->  Smartdata and tests (cog icon at the top) would be one way.  running  fsck  would test file system integrity
[03:44] <Bashing-om> bev: The health of the drive ? see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools .
[03:44] <inOrbit> can someone please help me install ffmpeg
[03:44] <inOrbit> and libavcodec?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> inOrbit, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[03:44] <cfhowlett> inOrbit, sudo apt-get libav-tools
[03:45] <TJ-> tjbiddle: how about creating a named pipe (FIFO) and letting the user ask for the password(s) over that?
[03:45] <inOrbit> package ffmpeg is not availabl, but is referred to by another package
[03:45] <squinty> !ffmpeg
[03:45] <inOrbit> event not found
[03:45] <bev> ok thx
[03:46] <cfhowlett> inOrbit, ffmpeg was removed from repos.  it will return in 16.**.  meanwhile, use libav-tools
[03:46] <cfhowlett> avconv - ffmpeg  (more or less)
[03:46] <inOrbit> invalid operation libav-tools
[03:46] <cfhowlett> inOrbit, correct.  libav-tools is the metapackage name
[03:47] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install libav-tools
[03:47] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: Having some trouble booting into windows via the grub console -- It looks like /bootmgr is on (hd2,msdos1) -- Should I just be able to `chainloader (hd2,msdos1) && boot`?
[03:47] <inOrbit> it says it's already installed
[03:47] <cfhowlett> inOrbit, perfect!
[03:47] <inOrbit> okay, i give up on guvcview, is there another webcam program that has its video and tools separate?
[03:47] <inOrbit> cause guvcview won't load for me
[03:48] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: chainloader (hd2,msdos1) +1    ... I think
[03:48] <dotnetted_alt> I tried setting root to (hd2,msdos1)  and `ntldr $(root)/bootmgr` too but I get a blank screen
[03:48] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: the important bit is the "+1" which tells it the sectors to fetch
[03:49] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: "error: invalid file name `'."
[03:49] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: hmmm, try without the ()
[03:49] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: I did this a few days ago but can't recall the format now!
[03:49] <inOrbit> cfhowlett do you know another program for webcam that has its video and controls in separate windows like guvcview does?
[03:50] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: Heh just my luck -- it does work without the space before +1 though -- so I should be able to run `boot` now
[03:50] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: Well now I get a huge blinking cursor lol -- progress
[03:50] <cfhowlett> inOrbit, sorry, I don't.  search the software center for "webcam"
[03:51] <inOrbit> i did, there isn't one, i just an't figure out why guvcview won't work when literally every other one works just fine
[03:51] <TJ-> dotnetted_alt: hmmm... try "chainloader (hd2)+1
[03:53] <dotnetted_alt> TJ-: brought me into grub again - I may have grub on hd2 as well though (accidentally added it via boot-repair)
[03:54] <inOrbit> TJ- do you have any more ideas?  Sorry I know you're with someone else
[03:54] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, You have grub in sda, sdb, sdc mbr
[03:56] <TJ-> inOrbit: I'd focus on trying to fix the dependencies, that suggests wider issues on the system if they aren't shown as installed
[03:56] <inOrbit> they ARE showed as installed
[03:56] <dotnetted_alt> wileee: do you have that paste link from above? I was on the bad box when I sent it
[03:57] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11963654/
[03:57] <dotnetted_alt> Thanks :)
[03:57] <wileee> no prob
[03:58] <TJ-> inOrbit: I thought you reported the libavcodec wasn't there?
[03:59] <ICantCook> I'm thinking of buying a Lenovo E450 with an R7 m260 GPU.  This would be used with the sole purpose of running Ubuntu.  I'm a little scared of the AMD GPU though (have had bad experiene with AMD + Linux in the past)
[03:59] <inOrbit> when i did sudo apt-get install libav-tools  it says they were already tehre
[03:59] <ICantCook> anyone got experience running such a GPU with Ubuntu (or is there a site I could find this sort of into)?
[04:00] <dotnetted_alt> If I added grub to the windows partition I should still be able to somehow manually boot into windows though right?
[04:00] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, not normally no
[04:00] <dotnetted_alt> wileee: So maybe a win8 recovery disk can restore it?
[04:01] <TJ-> inOrbit: but how about the libraries - libavcodec* or libavcodec-extra*, and the reset as reported by "apt-cache depends guvcview" ... I'd do "apt-get --reinstall install ..." on those packages
[04:01] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, I know nothing about lvm so the grub issue no idea. You could put the windows boot back in it's mbr yeah.
[04:02] <pumba-> have a question.. if i kill networkmanager will my vpn connection drop?
[04:02] <agent_white> Evenin' folks
[04:02] <dotnetted_alt> wileee: Yeah this is the first time I actually went with lvm -- always avoided it just in case of boot issues heh
[04:03] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, I would go to ##windows and get their help on that than you will have both boots for the time, just the HD is chosen for first read.
[04:04] <cfhowlett> pumba, yes.  vpn is a type of network connection
[04:05] <dotnetted_alt> wilee/TJ-: thanks for the help
[04:05] <inOrbit> okay when i try to download libvcodec extra 54  the status says Error:  Breaks existing package 'libavcodec54' coflict libavcodec-extra-54
[04:05] <pumba-> cfhowlett: so that means im off the internet totally once i kill network manager?
[04:06] <cfhowlett> pumba, no network manager = no network connection
[04:09] <explodes> ok
[04:09] <inOrbit> wait i just had an idea
[04:09] <explodes> unetbootin usb drive, installing ubuntu server 14.04.2 amd64, the thing complains about how the CDROM couldnt be mounted
[04:11] <agent_white> !tias
[04:11] <agent_white> Oh well.
[04:15] <arunsabapathy> hey guys
[04:15] <arunsabapathy> anyone out here?
[04:15] <arunsabapathy> helloooooo
[04:16] <cfhowlett> arunsabapathy, ask your ubuntu question
[04:16] <inOrbit> alright i figured out a work around
[04:16] <inOrbit> it's good enough for me, thanks though TJ-
[04:17] <inOrbit> aww he quit, oh well thanks guys
[04:21] <dotnetted_alt> erm is there any way that `boot-repair` run from an old live cd could somehow mess up my networking on my bootable 15.04 heh?
[04:24] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, Did you actually run it or just click the lower button on the gui for the info.script?
[04:24] <wileee> looked like just the info script
[04:24] <dotnetted_alt> Both -- I'm like 95% sure it has to be unrelated but my dns cacheing is all screwed up now
[04:25] <dotnetted_alt> Not the repair from above - ran another a few mins ago from a live cd
[04:25] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, should not matter the cd release, if it is the app
[04:25] <cfhowlett> dotnetted_alt, so far as I know, boot-repair doesn't re/configure networking options.
[04:26] <dotnetted_alt> thanks heh - I would sure hope not - figured I'd ask though
[04:27] <wileee> dotnetted_alt, The first info script was just going to purge and reload grub noting the lvm setup
[04:28] <wileee> the very end tels you what the fix is per the code, heh
[04:28] <dotnetted_alt> yeah I didn't check the one on the live cd though - it might have performed other actions
[04:30] <naymyowin> anybody doing perl development on ubuntu?
[04:30] <naymyowin> what should I install?
[04:31] <agent_white> naymyowin: Perl is included in every Linux kernel, if that's what you're asking.
[04:33] <linocisco> agent_white, what about IDE good for ubuntu?
[04:33] <agent_white> linocisco: Depends on the person. I wouldn't suggest ONE, but I would suggest you to try out multiple ones, as most of the best are free.
[04:34] <agent_white> I don't use an IDE, so I cannot tell you.  I use vim (a text editor) and the command line.
[04:35] <agent_white> linocisco: Also, depends on the language, if you're aiming for an IDE. As it's a developer environment, _generally_ tailored to a specific language.
[04:36] <linocisco> agent_white, thanks for your suggestion
[04:36] <tjbiddle> Lol - so went through the trouble of hiding some environment variables on disc to the user running a process - only to find you can print out environment variables for any process you own: http://serverfault.com/a/66366/121657
[04:36] <tjbiddle> Any other walls I can throw up for this? Maybe limit it so the user can't check running processes somehow?
[04:38] <agent_white> linocisco: Text editors are nondeterministic... they don't favor one language over another. They simply are there to read and write text. I suggest finding a good text editor (emacs/vim for terminal use -- or Sublime Text if you prefer a GUI).
[04:39] <vonStrauss> Hello
[04:40] <linocisco> agent_white, my idea is to distinguish between codes to see clearly which are commands and which are variables something like that. good editors would be helpful
[04:41] <cfhowlett> linocisco, gedit with plugins does that.  simple, clean.  YMMV
[04:41] <dinoocch> TJ-: Thanks for all the help, figured it out after taking a break and coming back ~ bad firewall configuration was blocking 3 of our 50 computers from accessing the file server, so pam_mount had to timeout every login :O
[04:41] <agent_white> linocisco: The ones I suggested are best. For instance, for ruby, if you use Rubymine, you insulate yourself from knowing the actual terminal commands run to execute a program, since there's a single button to do it.
[04:41] <agent_white> So, find a good text editor. And learn how to run your programs via the command line. Is my suggestion.
[04:42] <linocisco> cfhowlett, gedit is installed by default on ubuntu. Thanks for suggestion also
[04:42] <linocisco> agent_white, well understood your point . thanks
[04:42] <vonStrauss> Or it might be called pluma if you use MATE
[04:42] <agent_white> linocisco: You'll thank yourself later for doing so :)
[04:43] <agent_white> linocisco: Go grab Sublime Text. And go from there.
[04:44] <linocisco> agent_white, ok
[04:47] <linocisco> how to check your ubuntu is running with correct drivers? I have newly bought a brand new dell laptop and overwrite with Ubuntu 15.04. after 1hr with A/C power, it becomes hotter
[04:49] <cfhowlett> linocisco, Dell Linux Support
[04:50] <linocisco>  cfhowlett URL please. I could not find on Dell website yet
[04:52] <agent_white> linocisco: Google what ctfhowlett said. Click the top link.
[04:52] <cfhowlett> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3525
[04:52] <cfhowlett> linocisco, unless you have the Developer Edition?
[04:59] <bev> ? why would   a  intel celeron d have a hard time on the network like youtube and facebook anyhelp on fixing it?
[05:00] <wileee> bev, You might define hard time for us.
[05:00] <cfhowlett> bev, celeron?  sounds old.  try lubuntu.
[05:00] <bev> i'm useing xubuntu
[05:01] <cfhowlett> bev, fair enough.  "hard time" = ???
[05:02] <bev> it lags  little here there every good 1m
[05:07] <bev> so ? would it be video
[05:08] <cfhowlett> bev, if video plays otherwise, I'm betting you exceeded your graphics card performance.
[05:09] <bev> cuse  it boots up vary fast
[05:12] <magicrainbow> hi
[05:13] <Guest35232> Would anyone be able to offer me some assistance?  I deleted my ubuntu partition through windows disk management, and obviously now I'm getting "grub rescue" when I try to boot my PC.  I've tried to boot from my windows recovery disk, but my computer won't boot.  It simply loads into grub rescue.
[05:13] <Guest35232> I've also tried super grub on a USB, a ubuntu live usb, and my computer won't boot anything.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> Guest35232, get your windows recovery disk and run the repair utilities. you have no ubuntu anymore, so stop using grub tools
[05:15] <magicrainbow> i'm confused is this a helpline?/
[05:15] <Guest35232> I tried to use my recovery CD, my computer won't boot into the CD.  I even created an .iso from the CD, properly stuck that on a USB drive, and the computer still won't boot so I can use the repair utilities.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: ask your question in the channel
[05:15] <cfhowlett> magicrainbow, not a help line, a help channel. ask your ubuntu questions
[05:15] <wileee> Guest35232, I'm on ##windows
[05:15] <magicrainbow> k
[05:15] <cfhowlett> Guest35232, you have to go into the bios to direct the boot priority.  just plugging in your usb won't do that.
[05:16] <magicrainbow> well i'm not sure you can help but my screen is zoomed in and i cant fix it
[05:16] <Guest35232> cfhowlett, I know.  I've tried everything.  Would it have anything to do with UEFI?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Guest35232: make your life easy and single install ubuntu on your whole hd
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Guest35232, quite possibly.
[05:17] <Guest35232> Haha, I would, but I can't even boot into a Ubuntu live USB.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: ubuntu version?
[05:17] <magicrainbow> btw its just a normal monitor not an i pad
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Guest35232: disabled fastboot + secureboot in bios
[05:17] <cfhowlett> Guest35232, so to be clear: you DO NOT want ubuntu anymore, right?
[05:17] <magicrainbow> ?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: we need more details mate
[05:18] <magicrainbow> yes i use Ubuntu
[05:18] <locksmith2> Hello, I was wondering is it possible to entirely disable all services in ubuntu 11?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !eol | locksmith2
[05:19] <cfhowlett> locksmith2, ubuntu 11 is dead, unsupported and dangerous to continue using.  upgrade to a supported OS or risk security breaches.
[05:19] <Guest35232> I do not want Ubuntu on this machine, correct.  and I don't have an option for secureboot in my bios version.  My bios is insydeH20 version A02.
[05:19] <magicrainbow> well when i move my mouse it goes to that side of my screen
[05:19] <cfhowlett> Guest35232, so you only want windows.  ask ##windows how to repair your bot
[05:19] <cfhowlett> boot
[05:20] <magicrainbow> it would be really hard to play minecraft like that thou
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: you dont make sense mate, describe exactly what happens after your login
[05:20] <Guest35232> It has to do with grub, though. It's preventing me from booting from a disc/usb.
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: is your resolution too big?
[05:20] <magicrainbow> ? what do you mean
[05:21] <kerrick_> How can I figure out what's taking my (Upstart-based) system so long to boot?
[05:21] <magicrainbow> uh i guess
[05:21] <kerrick_> With systemd there's systemd-analyze blame, but not sure if Upstart has an equivalent
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: have you installed your grafix card driver?
[05:21] <Guest35232> #windows
[05:22] <magicrainbow> im am confused by all these computer terms
[05:22] <mobile3> any php master here ??
[05:23] <cfhowlett> magicrainbow, good news:  easy to learn.  less good news:  you HAVE to learn because YOU are your own system adminstrator now.  unless you pay/inveigle someone to do it for you.
[05:23] <mobile3> any php master here ??
[05:23] <locksmith2> I mean ubuntu 14.10
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: in #php
[05:23] <cfhowlett> locksmith2, dead.  end of life.  no longer supported.
[05:23] <magicrainbow> ok...
[05:23] <cfhowlett> !14.10 | locksmith2
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> magicrainbow: can you make a screenshot of what happening and paste to us?
[05:24] <magicrainbow> ok
[05:24] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : I am not able to join that channel , error :  user must be invited.....
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: sorry ##php
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: not sure if you need to be registered
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: pstree in terminal to see all lines
[05:25] <mobile3> lotuspsychje: ##php Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: and you can use bootload script to measure whats lagging in your system
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !register | mobile3
[05:29] <cfhowlett> mobile3, http://php.net/support.php
[05:29] <magicrainbow> nevermind sorry i fixed it
[05:29] <magicrainbow> bye
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> lol so far for feedback
[05:31] <wileee> !cookie | lotuspsychje For the effort
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> wileee: tnx mate :p need a coffee? join discuss :p
[05:32] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, which bootload script thing are you referring to?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: i think its bootchartpy or something
[05:32] <mobile3> lotuspsychje: ubottu: cfhowlett : Yesterday all of the files and folder got deleted by itself leaving a php file there. The file was not created by me. I just want you to see that php script and tell me what work that php script can do. I want to know whether someone hacked to my account... Can I show that php file ?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: makes a gui plan of what your whole system does after a reboot
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: are you on ubuntu?
[05:33] <mobile3> yes
[05:34] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, cool, found it
[05:34] <kerrick_> thanks!
[05:34] <Berry> Hey, I have a question. When I boot my computer and hold shift to go into the GRUB, the computer attempts to load it but never does. I could leave it running for 10 minutes and it would make no progress.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: pastebin us the text plz?
[05:34] <Berry> Any idea on how to fix that?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Berry: have you been able to enter grub before?
[05:35] <Berry> lotuspsychje: Many times, yes
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Berry: when did this happen? after update?
[05:35] <Berry> lotuspsychje: Just now, since I have to boot into something ending in a 58 rather than my normal 60. I forget what the term is, since I only have done it twice before this
[05:36] <Berry> lotuspsychje: I haven't changed anything to my knowledge
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Berry: not sure, maybe try a sudo update-grub ?
[05:37] <Berry> lotuspsychje: Thanks, going to reboot and see if it worked
[05:39] <mobile3> lotuspsychje: ubottu: cfhowlett : http://pastebin.com/wXCY0jTc
[05:39] <kerrick_> I can't install steam; apt-get says "unable to locate package steam". This is my /etc/apt/sources.list: https://bpaste.net/raw/1a667517e878
[05:39] <cfhowlett> mobile3, can't advise on php stuff: outside my area.
[05:40] <cfhowlett> kerrick_, you have to enable the multiverse repos
[05:40] <kerrick_> cfhowlett, aren't they enabled per that config?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> kerrick_, "that config"?  what config?  and no, by default they are not enabled.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11964259/
[05:41] <eliakim> hey guys. How big server must I have to run a heavy website with millions of visitors?
[05:41] <kerrick_> cfhowlett, see the sources.list I provided in the question
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: ftp_force and windows/linux/mac doesnt look to good
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: can you tell us wich ubuntu version, and what kinda services you running?
[05:42] <kerrick_> cfhowlett, could you paste your sources.list?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> kerrick_, look again.  all you enabled were restricted.  NOT multiverse
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !server | eliakim
[05:42] <kerrick_> cfhowlett, each line has "main restricted universe multiverse" on it; doesn't that mean that all of those are enabled?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> eliakim: for the hardware part you can ask in ##hardware
[05:43] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : Ubuntu 14.04 x64 Minimal , running Webuzo Control Panel
[05:43] <kerrick_> cfhowlett, note it wrapped because I copied out of my terminal
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: fully updated to 14.04.2?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> kerrick_, those and ONLY those.  but NONE of those are multiverse.  here's my sources.list | grep multiverse http://paste.ubuntu.com/11964266/
[05:43] <eliakim> ok. thnx.
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: im already readin heartbleed exploits on webuzo, i suggest you register and ask in ##php what your file does exactly
[05:45] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : I don't know but after installation of 14.04 i run these commands sudo apt-get update        # Fetches the list of available updates sudo apt-get upgrade       # Strictly upgrades the current packages sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  # Installs updates (new ones)
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : I am not able to register there....##php, first of all I am not able to login
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: you need to register to the network freenode, not the channel
[05:46] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : I run that commands 2 days ago...
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !register | mobile3 read this
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: lsb_release -a
[05:48] <mobile3> lotuspsychje: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Release:        14.04 Codename:       trusty
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: good!
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: you using openssl too?
[05:49] <kerrick_> cfhowlett, ah, so I need to pick a mirror URL that has the multiverse repo? Is there a list of such mirrors somewhere?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !mirrors | kerrick_
[05:49] <kerrick_> Is it some subset of the mirrors listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors ?
[05:50] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : I don't know
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: what do you do with webuzo?
[05:54] <kerrick_> Hmm, cfhowlett's instructions didn't really help and he left :(
[05:54] <kerrick_> Can anyone else help me figure out how to install Steam?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !steam | kerrick_
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: normally it shouldnt be too hard mate
[05:55] <kerrick_> I tried copying these lines to my sources.list and running apt-get update && apt-get install steam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11964266/
[05:55] <kerrick_> but it still says it can't find the file
[05:55] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, I have a semi-janky install
[05:55] <kerrick_> trying to un-jank it
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: maybe its because your on studio
[05:56] <kerrick_> naw, that's not it
[05:56] <kerrick_> it's in LXC
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ah
[05:56] <kerrick_> so it's using the LXC template for Ubuntu
[05:56] <kerrick_> except under Arch
[05:57] <kerrick_> I had to supply MIRROR="http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" when creating it
[05:57] <kerrick_> Ubuntu's LXC template is sorta buggy in that it doesn't work out-of-the-box on a non-Ubuntu distro
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: wait, your on arch?
[05:57] <kerrick_> yeah Arch Linux
[05:58] <kerrick_> but again the guest is Ubuntu; that's where I'm trying to install Steam
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: we cant support arch sorry
[05:58] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, it's Ubuntu
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: on a VM?
[05:58] <kerrick_> yeah
[05:58] <kerrick_> in a LXC VM
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: normally you should not have to add mirrors, should install right out of the box
[05:59] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, right, that didn't happen due to a bug in LXC
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: maybe the #lxc guys know more of this?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> never played it myself
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: what kind of error you getting after sudo apt-get install steam?
[06:02] <kerrick_> E: Unable to locate package steam
[06:02] <slicepaperwords> steam is ubuntu compatible huh? so i can play half life on ubuntu?
[06:03] <kerrick_> Here's my lsb-release: https://bpaste.net/show/094628116457
[06:03] <kerrick_> slicepaperwords, yup!
[06:03] <kerrick_> And TF2
[06:03] <kerrick_> and Bioshock Infinite
[06:03] <kerrick_> and Witcher 2
[06:03] <kerrick_> and Counter-Strike GO
[06:03] <slicepaperwords> haha
[06:03] <kerrick_> and and and lotsa game
[06:04] <slicepaperwords> i bought the original half life collection randomly awhile ago but havent played it
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic guys
[06:04] <slicepaperwords> not that that was going to stop me but im about to replace all my windows with ubuntu
[06:06] <kerrick_> waitaminute
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: sudo apt-get install steam -y
[06:06] <kerrick_> I'm running an x86_64 version of Ubuntu
[06:06] <kerrick_> does that make a difference?
[06:06] <slicepaperwords> lotuspsychje: i am im sorry i was just wondering if steam was compatable since i saw it brought up
[06:06] <kerrick_> looks like there's only a steam package for i386
[06:06] <kerrick_> but I should be able to install i386 packages, no?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: is your system 64bit?
[06:06] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, yes
[06:07] <kerrick_> BTW with -y it produces the same result
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: if you running ubuntu, it should find the right architecture packages too
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> kerrick_: try this alternative download method with wget perhaps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[06:11] <kerrick_> lotuspsychje, that's what the problem was :D
[06:11] <kerrick_> I followed the instructions here: 903b94bb8f0d7ca92dd896159f9001c95927e30e
[06:11] <kerrick_> whups
[06:12] <kerrick_> here: http://www.unixmen.com/enable-32-bit-support-64-bit-ubuntu-13-10-greater/
[06:12] <kerrick_> the problem is that steam is i386 only and I didn't have i386 enabled on this system (again, janky install)
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !yay | kerrick_
[06:12] <kerrick_> the script I'm using is quite old (like 2 years) and not compatible out-of-the-box with Arch so I'm having to update/modify it
[06:13] <kerrick_> and it was originally designed to build an i386 system
[06:13] <kerrick_> anyway woot
[06:18] <Ububegin> Now, I am stopping  a service "sudo service tomcat7 stop" , how do i put this into a service, so that it never starts by default,  after restarting the pc i mena
[06:23] <agent_white> Ububegin: It already is a service. You want to disable its ability to auto-start?
[06:23] <Ububegin> agent_white: how do i prevent it to auto-start
[06:24] <agent_white> Ububegin: Look into 'how to enable/disable services in Upstart'.  -- Ubuntu uses Upstart instead of SysV. In SysV, you would `sudo systemctl disable nameOfService`.
[06:25] <agent_white> But for how to do it in Upstart... you should look into it for practice.
[06:25] <Ububegin> agent_white: kk, will read up on Upstart
[06:25] <Ububegin> !Upstart
[06:26] <agent_white> :) Exactly.  Though we'll see how it progresses compared to systemd. The latter looks for favorable.
[06:32] <Ububegin> after adding a ppa, now i wanted to remove it.. sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:webupd8team/java .. but this command seems to hang forever
[06:33] <bubbasaures> !ppa-purge | Ububegin
[06:36] <Ububegin> bubbasaures : actually, webup8 has some problem now.. Even when I want to install sudo apt-get install ppa-purge, it also connects to java website to wait for the java jdk..
[06:38] <Tycoon> How are all of you?
[06:39] <wilfra> random questions: what do people use to keep a dev log? like the one the Silk Road guy hand and Mark Zuckerberg had in early facebook days.
[06:39] <wilfra> just notepad or something?
[06:42] <wileee> Ububegin, Not sure I understand, the install of the purge app is an issue? The removal of the ppa is? there both separate tasks is all.
[06:43] <Ububegin> wileee: the ppa's link is broken.. but due to this, i can install anything else..
[06:43] <Ububegin> wileee: seems i have manually remove this ppa .. any idea how
[06:44] <wileee> Ububegin, you don't need the ppa for a removal.
[06:44] <wileee> just the info of it for the script to run in ubuntu
[06:45] <wileee> the purge script/app
[06:45] <adac> I have quite huge problems with my external display. It is often simply not recognized by ubuntu and a wrong resolution is shown, and when I put my nnotebook into the docking station and wake it up from sleep mode, ubuntu just hangs up. What I found in the logs is the following, and I think that must be the reason for this behavior: "[drm:intel_pipe_config_compare] *ERROR* mismatch in has_dp_encoder (expected 1, found 0)"
[06:45] <adac> any iedas on how to resolve that?
[06:46] <wileee> Ububegin, At least I assume there is no call to the ppa while purging.
[06:47] <wileee> Ububegin, can you do a regular update ugrade with no errors in the terminal?
[06:47] <KlausedSource> hey guys, I am using gnome-terminal. It has a shortcut to switch between tabs with ctrl+page-up/-down. My Cherry keyboard has those buttons and they work they are also on the "num"-blocks on both my cherry keyboard and the built-in laptop one. But these combinations don't work on the numblocks on both keyboards. Unfortunatly my laptop doesn't have these keys seperately and I don't want to miss this function. Do you know why this happens?
[06:47] <KlausedSource> Anything with my keymap settings?
[06:50] <wileee> Ububegin, for the record I'm looking at the ppa now looks fine, anyway call again if needed.
[06:56] <jak2000> hi all friends
[06:57] <jak2000> anyone have a graphical env, running?
[06:58] <Ububegin> wileee: I cant do sudo apt-get upgrade as well.. it is always trying to connect to the "Connecting to edelivery.oracle.com (edelivery.oracle.com)|23.51.34.177|:443..." and fails.. I just want to remove this shitty ppa
[06:59] <wileee> Ububegin, open software & sources 2nd tab and click it off, do not just remove it. I suspect you're in this pickle just acting without really knowing what to do correctly, this is not a fix.
[07:00] <wileee> Ububegin, Than pastebin a sudo apt-get update
[07:01] <wileee> the ppa has no oracle address anyway
[07:04] <Ububegin> wileee: i am in ubuntu server.. http://pastebin.com/cCavh6eJ
[07:06] <wileee> Ububegin, a proxy?
[07:06] <Ububegin> yup, we connect thru a proxy..
[07:07] <Ububegin> wileee: it works for everyting except this ppa.. Anyways, now I dont even need this anymore and just want to remove it
[07:08] <wileee> Ububegin, you need to run a dist-upgrade for the kernels if needed, I think the proxy is the issue, just a guess though but "Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily" this seems interesting.
[07:09] <Ububegin> wileee: after the dist-upgrade, what shld i do
[07:11] <wileee> Ububegin, I would check if the proxy is the issue first if it were me, been awhile since I installed java but I didn't use a ppa, so the package call looks weird to me in it's address. I doubt I have any more help is all.
[07:13] <Guest17184> how can i instal this? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/07642x3lziqgmz9/AAC8y-QZwguqY2YAXTp7z4naa/stable/3.16.0-37.51?dl=0
[07:14] <wileee> Ububegin, I just noticed this however "1 not fully installed or removed." you have any broken packages obvious in an update?
[07:14] <wileee> is it the java7?
[07:15] <Ububegin> after the ppa failed to work, i just manually downloaded the java and unzipped into a directory..and set up path etc
[07:16] <Ububegin> wileee: same issue, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade also doesnt work
[07:17] <wileee> Ububegin, Would it seem appropriate to you when you evidence it would be more pertinent then "also doesnt work"
[07:17] <wileee> have evidence*
[07:17] <Ububegin> wileee: sorry, i mean the same error again
[07:18] <wileee> Ububegin, which is? does this not seem important to be exact on?
[07:18] <wileee> Ububegin, I'm trying to get you to realize that we are running around in circles.
[07:18] <Ububegin> wileee: same as the pastebin.. http://pastebin.com/cCavh6eJ
[07:20] <wileee> Ububegin, I am past my patience level, it is not you but me, ;) read this when you have the time. http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:22] <Ububegin> wileee: ok, anyways, the only thing i wanted to do was to remove the ppa...  *sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:webupd8team/java*
[07:54] <D30> hello guys, im sorry if this question is just so noobish, but i cant get pubkey auth to work on ubuntu 14.04
[07:55] <D30> i followed the instructions outlined here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[07:55] <D30> but still when ssh’ng to the server, it only ask for password..
[07:57] <sidd1994> hi could anyone help me out with CR and LF
[07:57] <D30> i enable ssh verbose and this is what ive got
[07:57] <D30> http://pastebin.com/rUqwrTff
[07:57] <sidd1994> i want to send just LF so am sending \n through my c code
[07:57] <D30> debug3: Incorrect RSA1 identifier
[07:57] <sidd1994> but im recieving CRLF
[07:57] <somsip> D30: is OSX involved anywhere here?
[07:58] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, CR = Carrage Return LF = Line Feed. CRLF is 2 characters
[07:58] <D30> yes indeed im using OSx somsip
[07:58] <somsip> D30: so, nothing to do with ubuntu then?
[07:58] <sidd1994> yes i agree
[07:58] <sidd1994> but thats how my code is behaving
[07:58] <D30> what do you mean? the problem is on my localhost?
[07:58] <somsip> D30: in what way are you using OSX and in what way are you using ubuntu?
[07:58] <sidd1994> i hava a character array. I am appending '\n' at the end which is LF
[07:58] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, sidd1994 Linux (Unix) does noe require LF. It's asssumed
[07:59] <ObrienDave> dang
[07:59] <ObrienDave> sidd1994 Linux (Unix) does not require LF. It's assumed
[07:59] <D30> OSX = personal machine, ubuntu=file server
[07:59] <D30> somsip: thats what you mean?
[08:00] <somsip> D30: so you need instructions on how to create a key correctly on OSX.
[08:00] <sidd1994> the thing is that im playing around with a custom software the takes inputs through serial.
[08:00] <sidd1994> it looks for an LF
[08:00] <D30> somsip: its weird.. i can ssh to other ubuntu server using the same keys
[08:00] <D30> the problem is only on this server
[08:00] <somsip> D30: is the debug log from the client or the server?
[08:00] <D30> *the other server
[08:00] <sidd1994> or else it crashes. So i am asking. :)
[08:00] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, k. i understand RS232
[08:00] <D30> somsip: from osx client
[08:01] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: so what can i do.
[08:01] <somsip> D30: so the client is reporting a problem with the client key. Not sure why ubuntu might be at fault here
[08:01] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, have it look for CR instead
[08:01] <ObrienDave> Hex 10 , iirc
[08:01] <D30> hmmnnn just an fyi, i can ssh to other ubuntu with no problem at all somsip
[08:02] <elton> have you check your known_host file in ubuntu server?
[08:02] <ObrienDave> Hex 13, sorry
[08:02] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: because I dont have the source code so cant recompile
[08:02] <elton> cat .ssh/known_hosts
[08:02] <ObrienDave> which program?
[08:02] <D30> elton: theres no known_host on my ubuntu server in my home dir
[08:03] <elton> hmm
[08:03] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: its a simulated robot which was written by a colegue of mine.
[08:03] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: i cant get the source code from him
[08:04] <somsip> D30: beg pardon - that line is normal output in debug. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12449626/trying-to-use-rsa-keys-to-ssh-into-ec2-getting-incorrect-rsa1-identifier-pe/15563793#15563793
[08:04] <D30> somsip: i have read that too somsip its okay :)
[08:05] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, ok, he's using LF because Windows always sends both
[08:05] <elton> just wondering on your osx does it mention your ubuntu file server?
[08:05] <elton> i am trying to think if it’s problem with client or server @_@
[08:06] <D30> elton: let me double check first my server
[08:07] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: ok. The software is written on windows in C. I am using linux to test it. could that be the problem?
[08:07] <elton> D30 i am pretty sure you need to include your osx key somewhere on the ubuntu server
[08:07] <D30> whats the correct permission? 644 or 600 ?
[08:08] <D30> elton: yep my pubkeys are there
[08:08] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: btw the communication is something like this android<-bluetooth->Intel_Edison<->Software_on_windows
[08:08] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: edison is just like a mediator takes text from android and passes to PC
[08:09] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, i would think so, have him test for CR instead
[08:09] <fishcooker1> if other user running apt-get dist-upgrade .. how to show progress log of apting action?
[08:09] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: Alrlight thankyou. :) . So just to confirm once again. Linux doesnt need LF so it will not send it?
[08:09] <brophat> ubuntu software center says Python v3.4 is installed, but when I do a python -V it says 2.7.6 is running
[08:09] <D30> oh… elton somsip its working now
[08:09] <D30> a permission issue xD
[08:09] <D30> i used 644 instead of 600
[08:10] <somsip> brophat: python3 -V
[08:10] <brophat> somsip oh hmmmmm ok weird
[08:10] <trae32566[w]> wow
[08:10] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, no, linux does not use LF
[08:10] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: Thank You
[08:10] <elton> nice :p
[08:10] <trae32566[w]> you know it's bad when Canonical can't even keep the websites listed in the topic up ;) http://ubottu.com/y/irc
[08:10] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, Linux or Unix
[08:10] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: appreciate the help
[08:10] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[08:10] <brophat> somsip so all my commands for python I use python3 I guess?
[08:11] <elton> when in doubt it is most likely a permission issue
[08:11] <somsip> brophat: use a shebang would be easier I guess
[08:11] <trae32566[w]> you mayyyyyy wanna fix that.
[08:12] <brophat> somsip ok thanks
[08:12] <wileee> trae32566[w], What are you rambling about?
[08:12] <trae32566[w]> wileee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat is down.
[08:12] <trae32566[w]> internal server error.
[08:12] <wileee> trae32566[w], works here
[08:13] <brophat> somsip why would they not just make python point to the latest version?
[08:13] <ObrienDave> trae32566[w], PEBCAK
[08:13] <trae32566[w]> ObrienDave: one sec, pastebinning it
[08:13] <trae32566[w]> or rather imaging it
[08:13] <somsip> brophat: backwards compatibility. IIRC there are still some libs/apps that are not yet fully P3 compliant
[08:13] <brophat> somsip ok gotcha thaks
[08:14] <ObrienDave> trae32566[w], i think you better look up PEBCAK first LOL
[08:17] <trae32566[w]> I find it interesting how it didn't work, nobody said anything, then you mentioned something and it worked. Here's some proof for ya. Explain to me how an HTTP 500 can EVER be PEBKAC: https://goo.gl/photos/RzdeZmSYUMrJ3pdC6
[08:17] <ObrienDave> *face palms*
[08:18] <trae32566[w]> well actually, I guess I could make it 500 if the application was poorly written and I gave it a malformed URL
[08:18] <trae32566[w]> next time I'll make sure I do a CURL -I from several DCs though on it :)
[08:18] <trae32566[w]> *curl
[08:25] <lyz_> yeah
[08:26] <lyz_> hellp
[08:26] <lyz_> hello
[08:26] <ObrienDave> lyz_, Appropriate time-of-day greetings & Welcome
[08:27] <lyz_> thanks
[08:27] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: one last query: Do you have any idea about RFCOMM sockets?
[08:28] <oaulakh> is there any way i can open ubuntu partition in windows to edit my fstab, bcz i'm badly fucked up with my fstab man. hahhahahaha, so there's no way to edit fstab root shell or anything i have to edit it through my windows, any help?
[08:28] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, not sure what RFCOMM means. i assume something to do with Radio Frequency
[08:28] <EriC^^> oaulakh: do you have a live usb?
[08:29] <the_drow> what are my options if I want to use a docking station with Ubuntu?
[08:29] <oaulakh> yes general and don't want to laugh here bcz my ubuntu usb is not booting too ;)
[08:29] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: its sockets through bluetooth communcaiton
[08:29] <EriC^^> oaulakh: when you get a grub you can modify the kernel line and add init=/bin/bash to get a root shell , remount read-write and modify it i guess
[08:30] <ObrienDave> sidd1994, not familiar with that, sorry
[08:30] <sidd1994> ObrienDave: never mind. Thank you
[08:30] <sidd1994> :)
[08:33] <Sony_> is there any way i can open ubuntu partition in windows to edit my fstab, bcz i'm badly fucked up with my fstab man. hahhahahaha, so there's no way to edit fstab root shell or anything i have to edit it through my windows, any help?
[08:33] <Sony_> dear EriC^^ as i said there's no way i can edit it in root shell in starting from ubuntu recorvery uses, but problem is whenever i stry to edit my fstab through shell or nano it says you cannot write files on this partition its read only :'(
[08:33] <wileee> the_drow, Find one that works?
[08:33] <the_drow> I'd like to order one for work but I have to know ahead of time that it works well with ubuntu
[08:34] <k1l> Sony_: you need  to mount the partitin as read-write first in recovery
[08:34] <linocisco> on email client, Evolution , I now see dates are in local languages, I want to keep the same my local time zone but language of date and time should be english
[08:34] <linocisco> how can I do that?
[08:34] <oaulakh> dear EriC^^ as i said there's no way i can edit it in root shell in starting from ubuntu recorvery uses, but problem is whenever i stry to edit my fstab through shell or nano it says you cannot write files on this partition its read only :'(
[08:34] <EriC^^> Sony_: when you get grub, press e over ubuntu, then add init=/bin/bash to the line that says linux /vmlinuz ....... at the end, then press ctrl+x, after you get a root shell type mount -o rw /
[08:34] <wileee> the_drow, Never mentioned here, I saw a use say the use one lately no name.
[08:34] <wileee> user*
[08:35] <k1l> oaulakh: sony: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[08:35] <EriC^^> oaulakh: sorry, that's mount -o remount,rw /
[08:35] <wileee> the_drow, I would foo the web for linux and dock
[08:40] <Mava> does it work if i make aa disk to disk clone from windows 7 using ubuntu live and dd ?
[08:40] <Mava> so: got an old disk and a new disk. should make 1:1 clone from the old to the new but donna what to use it for
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> Mava: whats your end goal exactly mate?
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> !clone | Mava
[08:42] <Mava> lotuspsychje: to get rid of my 128bg ssd in my second machine running windows 7
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> !info clonezilla | Mava
[08:42] <Mava> just got a brand new 256gb ssd! and damn, dont know how to clone it cause clonezilla does not work
[08:42] <Mava> lotuspsychje: that's tried already mate =)
[08:43] <Mava> "cannot find sdb1 on the system" or whatever is the issue
[08:44] <Mava> so, got an idea that wheter you could direclty use something like dd in ubuntu
[08:45] <KlausedSource> hey guys, I am using gnome-terminal. It has a shortcut to switch between tabs with ctrl+page-up/-down. My Cherry keyboard has those buttons and they work they are also on the "num"-blocks on both my cherry keyboard and the built-in laptop one. But these combinations don't work on the numblocks on both keyboards. Unfortunatly my laptop doesn't have these keys seperately and I don't want to miss this function. Do you know why this happens?
[08:45] <KlausedSource> Anything with my keymap settings?
[08:45] <the_drow> my nvidia driver doesn't seem to my second monitor although it is working correctly
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> Mava: maybe this can help:http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19141/clone-a-hard-drive-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[08:45] <the_drow> when I open the nvidia settings app and click on detect displays it crashes
[08:46] <Mava> lotuspsychje: was checking that true already, but somehow what i'm bit skeptic
[08:46] <the_drow> moreover, I get some sort of wierd latency issue on the second monitor, whenever I type something I have to wait a bit until it's displayed
[08:47] <the_drow> Has anyone else experienced this problem?
[08:47] <Mava> hmm, just got found a newer version of the clonezilla, lets see what will happen
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: wich card, driver and ubuntu version?
[08:50] <the_drow> Ubuntu 15.04, Nvidia Quadro K1100M and driver version 346.59
[08:50] <the_drow> The tested one
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: you know if thats an optimus card?
[08:51] <the_drow> I'm currently trying to switch to the one with updates to see if it makes a difference
[08:51] <the_drow> lotuspsychje: No idea
[08:51] <OerHeks> nvidia 346 from xorg-edgers ppa ?
[08:51] <the_drow> no
[08:52] <Mava> the_drow: lemme guess
[08:52] <the_drow> If I'd run xorg-edgers it would be on a VM. Not on my workplace's laptop
[08:52] <Mava> the_drow: you've got intel hd in there AND the nvidia ?
[08:52] <the_drow> Mava: http://partnerdirect.dell.com/sites/channel/Documents/Dell-Precision-M3800-workstation-spec-sheet.pdf nope, it comes with nvidia
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: thats text says optimus technology
[08:54] <the_drow> which means?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: did you install the package nvidia-prime?
[08:54] <Mava> the_drow: you have intel and nvidia in there
[08:54] <the_drow> no
[08:54] <Mava> or is it so ?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime and reboot plz
[08:55] <Mava> since, i've got nvidia k2100 in my laptop and i'm screwed =D
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: you need to set your card on performance mode with nvidia-settings after that
[08:55] <the_drow> lotuspsychje: what does the nvidia-prime package do?
[08:56] <fang> duan
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: it will let you choose performance mode/saving mode
[08:56] <OerHeks> Mobile Intel® HM87 Express comes with Intel 4600 inside.
[08:57] <the_drow> lotuspsychje: nvidia-prime is already installed
[08:57] <blackeagle> hi
[08:57] <blackeagle> there
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> the_drow: ok then check nvidia-settings now
[08:58] <blackeagle> hi
[08:58] <blackeagle> there
[08:58] <the_drow> It still only recognizes one monitor
[08:58] <wileee> blackeagle, You need support?
[08:59] <Oaulakh> Is there any way I can mount my / partition in root shell bcz "mount -o remount,rw /" is not working. It's showing me / not mounted or bad option
[09:02] <fishcooker> how to kill dist-upgrade process that being stuck ?
[09:02] <EriC^^> Oaulakh: type lsblk
[09:03] <k1l> fishcooker: are you sure its stuck?
[09:03] <wileee> fishcooker, dist-upgrade is an in release upgrade, right?
[09:03] <Oaulakh> Ok now what 😳
[09:03] <k1l> fishcooker: some operations take some time, depends on bandwidth or cpu load
[09:04] <wileee> kernels can
[09:04] <Oaulakh> It shows me hard disk and partition structure
[09:04] <k1l> Oaulakh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[09:05] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11965220/ k1l wileee
[09:05] <fishcooker> it looks like
[09:05] <Tebbo> so i downloaded the dev's ubuntu
[09:05] <Tebbo> and it's f'ing incredibly slow
[09:05] <Koyaanis> dont say fucking, its not allowed in here
[09:06] <Tebbo> SHUTUP
[09:06] <k1l> Oaulakh: hmm, if you messed that much with your system you might need to load a live usb system
[09:06] <Tebbo> I WILL DO WHAT I WANT DAD
[09:06] <fishcooker> i see half configured on kernel* @/var/log/dpkg.log .. "2015-07-30 14:39:33 status half-configured linux-image-3.13.0-61-generic:amd64 3.13.0-61.100"
[09:06] <Tebbo> i like this chan already
[09:07] <ObrienDave> just don't be a jerk about it, please
[09:07] <wileee> fishcooker, Not sure with that output myself.
[09:08] <k1l> fishcooker: did you use the dist-upgrade with changed sources? or just as regular update?
[09:08] <fishcooker> i've sudo pgrep apt | xargs kill wileee
[09:08] <fishcooker> yes regular update
[09:08] <fishcooker> k1l
[09:08] <Oaulakh> Dear all genius who are here plz don't make me frustrate now, no one knows nothing I told many times my sub not working and my system partition is not write able I'm just fucke up and u guys feeling it's fun😂😂😂😂😢😂
[09:08] <wileee> doh I'm hit
[09:09] <schangmi> Hi. I am no Ubuntu 14.04.2 but when I run sudo do-release-upgrade I am getting that there is no new release (though there are obviously newer versions). Any idea why it does that ? Thanks
[09:09] <k1l> Oaulakh: no one is making  fun of you.
[09:09] <k1l> Oaulakh: you can use a ubuntu cd/dvd too
[09:10] <ObrienDave> schangmi, if you have your updates set for LTS only, you won't get notified of newer versions
[09:10] <schangmi> ok then what should I set it to then ?
[09:10] <fishcooker> LoL wileee
[09:10] <wileee> ;)
[09:11] <ObrienDave> schangmi, ANY release
[09:11] <Oaulakh> Omg, hahahahahah now that's perfect joke😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
[09:11] <k1l> fishcooker: if you are sure its hang up, then ctrl+c it. and run a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade again
[09:11] <schangmi> ObrienDave here /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[09:11] <Oaulakh> Means I know how to use use and I have one I know to boot cd and I have one two but nothing working my genious my lord😂😂😂😂
[09:12] <schangmi> ObrienDave ok, works. Thanks
[09:12] <ObrienDave> schangmi, menu, settings, software and updates
[09:12] <ObrienDave> schangmi, most welcome
[09:12] <k1l> Oaulakh: stop that. i am really trying to help you sort that mess that you made. i am not going to help you with that attitude.
[09:12] <fishcooker> k1l, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:12] <fishcooker> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:13] <k1l> fishcooker: is there still a process running using apt?
[09:13] <ObrienDave> fishcooker, that means you have another process going. close it
[09:13] <Oaulakh> Ok😷
[09:13] <Oaulakh> But no one can help me I know
[09:14] <Oaulakh> Means I just make my partition write able but no one tell me how now I want to do it again to check my fstab, I really confused what to do😓
[09:15] <xJeremyCx> hey guys
[09:15] <OerHeks> Oaulakh, good start: "no one can help me"
[09:15] <xJeremyCx> I wanna upgrade the bios of my computer
[09:15] <xJeremyCx> will it break the grub2 installed?
[09:15] <xJeremyCx> I have windows 8 + ubuntu installed
[09:15] <wileee> xJeremyCx, Taking up brick making eh.
[09:15] <ObrienDave> xJeremyCx, you have to go through the manufacturer for that
[09:16] <k1l> xJeremyCx: in best case it will not change any bootloader settings
[09:16] <xJeremyCx> ermm
[09:16] <Oaulakh> No just simple boot in windows and download update package or boos bcz I don't think it can happen in Ubuntu
[09:16] <ObrienDave> xJeremyCx, worst case, it will bork everything ;P
[09:16] <wileee> xJeremyCx, Back everything up before you do it.
[09:16] <k1l> Oaulakh: get a working ubuntu-usb or ubuntu-cd/dvd and repair that fstab. thats it
[09:16] <xJeremyCx> the bios is provided my my laptop manufacturer
[09:17] <ObrienDave> xJeremyCx, you have to go through the manufacturer for that
[09:17] <xJeremyCx> ermmm
[09:17] <Oaulakh> I have both but nothing seems boot everytime system boot itself even my bios keys are not working too😓
[09:18] <wileee> xJeremyCx, All we can really say is anything can happen so be prepared, it may go fine however
[09:19] <Kamuela> does openjdk install openjre?
[09:21] <xJeremyCx> thanks everyone for helping me
[09:21] <xJeremyCx> I properly will not upgrade it
[09:22] <boxy> windows boot loader has to be 1st its just the way it is
[09:23] <boxy> grub is much better at this
[09:24] <k1l> boxy: grub can load the windows bootloader fine.
[09:24] <boxy> if your bios has boot disk you can use that
[09:25] <boxy> if not just up date grub and in windows take out boot loader
[09:27] <boxy> ill help what windows you  have
[09:31] <xJeremyCx> boxy, windows 8
[09:31] <boxy> k1l just make grub your boot loader do it form a usb stick if you like but windows carnt be the boss
[09:31] <xJeremyCx> windows 8.1 pro
[09:31] <barq> After doing autoremove on the old kernel headers and reboot ubuntu is not responding. I upgrade from the 59 to 61 headers, that worked fine but after autoremove of the old ones I get this behavior. How can I fix this?
[09:31] <xJeremyCx> and I'm going to upgrade to windows 10
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> barq: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[09:32] <Xexan> is it safe to use some vivid repositories in trusty?
[09:32] <boxy> i use grub and my bios to boot what ever op i run
[09:33] <somsip> Xexan: no. why do you think you need to?
[09:33] <barq> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[09:34] <boxy> if you are on the same disk it dont mater cos of the partison
[09:34] <Xexan> i need some package within vivid repo which dose not exist in trusty
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | Xexan
[09:34] <somsip> Xexan: which one?
[09:35] <boxy> linux dont no the dif nor dos windows
[09:36] <boxy> i would say for easy way just boot from live cd on usb stick
[09:36] <Xexan> somsip: obfs4proxy - i used to install pacakges like this with gdebi.
[09:37] <k1l> barq: what kernels are installed? what kernel did you choose on grub?
[09:37] <somsip> Xexan: looks like a PPA might be the way to go
[09:37] <somsip> !ppa | Xexan
[09:37] <barq> How do I find out?
[09:38] <barq> I remember it 13.x.59 to 13.x.61
[09:38] <boxy> http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux
[09:40] <wileee> boxy, way easier ways
[09:40] <Xexan> thanks, i was looking for a way to install these kind of package with ubuntu maintainers support.  i think Pinning is the way to go.
[09:41] <OerHeks> boxy, xJeremyCx is long gone
[09:42] <boxy> was just trying to help
[09:42] <boxy> never mind all good
[09:46] <qiuwenpeng> Hello
[09:49] <Xexan> Is there a good documentation to learn more about how ubuntu repositories and source file works? I already read the debian and ubuntu wiki page about source file but still i can't figure out how things works. why we have things like trusty trusty-update trusty-backports and trusty-security in there.
[09:50] <EriC^^> Xexan: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <EriC^^> it explains each one in the comments
[09:52] <Guest87408> i ve been getting this erroor fish: No matches for wildcard 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lNCCSFowk'.
[09:52] <Guest87408> youtube-dl -f best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7lNCCSFowk
[10:02] <Tzunamii> Guest87408: Have you updated youtube-dl?  youtube-dl --update
[10:02] <Tzunamii> Guest87408: Also, it likes to have a target resolution to DL. youtube-dl -t -f 22 <YT URL>
[10:02] <Tzunamii> that will DL in 720p
[10:11] <no0bix> hello everyone, do any of you know how to disable ubuntu-goip and the disadvantages of doing so?
[10:16] <CB6> What kind of FTP server? VSFTPD any good?
[10:19] <Tzunamii> vsFTPd is a good choice. Google it's features etc
[10:20] <boxy> tor not working whats better?
[10:21] <no0bix> sorry, i meant ubuntu-geoip-
[10:38] <ayoisaiah> How can Ubuntu be fast like Elementary OS Freya?
[10:38] <ayoisaiah> Any tricks or tips?
[11:03] <Farioko> I set up my mdraid, lvm and btrfs storage devices, now how do I proceed installing Ubuntu on top of this?
[11:07] <CB6> I've read SCP is slow over gigabit networks. Is samba faster?
[11:07] <jpds> CB6: rsync is faster
[11:08] <CB6> jpds good with Ubuntu?
[11:08] <jpds> CB6: It's been in Ubuntu since... forever
[11:08] <CB6> lol
[11:08] <k1l> samba is not fast
[11:09] <OerHeks> !info grsync
[11:09] <CB6> I haven't been able to get samba to work. Usershares confirms the file shares. Smbtree shows it as operational but windows doesn't see it. Ubuntu sees the other computers. Not sure why Windows 7 can't see Ubuntu lol
[11:09] <matrixuser> hello
[11:11] <CB6> must be a firewall thing but when i shut down ufw no change
[11:12] <Farioko> I set up my mdraid, lvm and btrfs storage devices, now how do I proceed installing Ubuntu on top of this?
[11:12] <jpds> CB6: So it's not a firewall thing
[11:13] <CB6> told default ubuntu has no ports open really. Considering that perhaps there's some other option I missed.
[11:13] <jpds> CB6: When you install it, yes
[11:13] <jpds> CB6: It doesn't have a firewall blocking incoming ports by default though
[11:13] <lvleph> I am having a conflict with my .bashrc and scp, but it isn't clear to me which line is causing the issue. You can have  a look at my bashrc here https://github.com/erichlf/dotfiles/blob/master/.bashrc
[11:14] <jpds> CB6: You install a service that listens on a port, and that will be exposed.
[11:14] <CB6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11960866/
[11:14] <lvleph> something about interactive shells is what I gathered
[11:14] <Farioko> CB6: HONEYPOT?
[11:14] <CB6> lol I named it that for my own joke
[11:14] <CB6> anyone goes in they're going to think twice with a name like that
[11:15] <Farioko> CB6: the other pc is in the same workgroup?
[11:15] <CB6> same name
[11:16] <CB6> ubuntu sees windows pc but windows doesn't see ubuntu
[11:16] <CB6> windows sees router with same workgroup name but not ubuntu. smbtree shows all 3
[11:16] <CB6> makes me wonder what on ubuntu windows isn't seeing
[11:17] <jpds> CB6: Can you see the Ubuntu one from another Ubuntu
[11:17] <jpds> ?
[11:17] <fidel_> CB6: what exactly do you mean by windows doesnt see ubuntu-host?
[11:17] <CB6> this is my exclusive install and I don't have a bootable iso ATM
[11:17] <jpds> CB6: VM?
[11:17] <CB6> it doesn't see the ubuntu pc when viewing network
[11:18] <fidel_> if you are browing the network/workgroup in windows - or if you enter \\hostname in explorer?
[11:18] <CB6> jpds I don't have any VM setup presently
[11:18] <CB6> browsing*
[11:18] <fidel_> browsing the network/workgroup might not always show all existing hosts on some windows boxes
[11:18] <CB6> lol sorry I thought I typed that not you
[11:18] <CB6> I haven't tried exploder option
[11:20] <pston> good afternoon. I'm using an external keypad from speedlink for my laptop. Number 3, 6 and 9 often do not work. Mouse keys are not enabled. Anyone got a lead on this?
[11:22] <pston> I noticed that every time a numpad key is pressed, numlock is pressed first on the keypad (as seen in the keyboard overview in ubuntu) - followed by the number
[11:22] <fidel_> pston: random idea - dirt or bad contact inside the external keyboard?
[11:22] <pston> just bought it :(
[11:23] <lvleph> I am having a conflict with my .bashrc and scp, but it isn't clear to me which line is causing the issue. scp fails to download files with no error. However, scp -vvv gives a read failure. You can have  a look at my bashrc here https://github.com/erichlf/dotfiles/blob/master/.bashrc
[11:23] <pston> and pressing 3, 6 or 9 repeatedly results in the keys becoming very responsive
[11:23] <lvleph> nm
[11:23] <pston> so it's just a delay before they work
[11:23] <lvleph> found it. It is when I am using base16 color schemes for shell
[11:23] <lvleph> hmmm
[11:24] <pston> how can a color scheme have an impact on scp?
[11:34] <CB6> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba under "Known Issues" it mentions wifi. I'm using current version of desktop 14.04.2. My hosts doesn't look anything like either of the example in the mentioned file
[11:53] <sadsadasdsadcx11> hello guys
[11:57] <baizon> hi sadsadasdsadcx11
[11:58] <sadsadasdsadcx11> hi baizon
[11:59] <sadsadasdsadcx11> wassup :p
[12:06] <kgalahassa> hi, my filesystem / is in read-only mode since i have booted, and  i have this on command line : mount -o remount,rw '/dev/sda6'        (who give) mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda6 read-write, is write-protected
[12:06] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, this error has been mentioned as a sign of hdd failing ...
[12:07] <kgalahassa> yes cfhowlett, do you remember , i have met this issue last time, how can i set read-only mode off?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, no idea.  look into backup and replacement options.
[12:09] <OerHeks> run fsck on that partition ? or even better, whole drive?
[12:11] <OerHeks> or use live iso + sudo e2fsck /dev/sdX
[12:17] <Petazz> Hi guys! I have a weird problem
[12:18] <Petazz> Booted from usb live disk and both my monitors work fine. Installed latest Ubuntu release and now only the other monitor shows stuff
[12:18] <Petazz> The othe "blinks": Starts up and then goes to standby, as if it cannot read the signal from the graphics card
[12:19] <Petazz> Please help. Worked fine on the live disk, dunno why it doesn't work after install
[12:19] <Blasteres> Petazz: What does display settings show?
[12:20] <Petazz> You mean display settings in Ubuntu or settings on the actual display?
[12:20] <Blasteres> in Ubuntu :)
[12:21] <Petazz> On Ubuntu it recognizes the display and sets the correct (used to be anyway) resolution
[12:22] <Blasteres> Petazz: Are you using Unity?
[12:22] <Petazz> Blasteres: Yea I think so, comes bundled with the "Ubuntu for developers"?
[12:23] <Blasteres> Petazz: I dunno :) But I had similar problem, when LiveCD used only one screen
[12:23] <Blasteres> But its only liveCD
[12:23] <Blasteres> try if switching to tty shows something on both monitors
[12:25] <clobrano> Petazz: is the first display shown in display settings? Is it enabled, too?
[12:48] <Petazz> clobrano: Yea both displays are shown and are enabled
[12:48] <Petazz> Blasteres: tty doesn't show on the "broken" monitor...
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:56] <Petazz> Blasteres: Any more ideas? :D I'm a bit lost here..
[12:56] <Petazz> Could it be the graphics card driver broken somehow?
[12:57] <KlausedSource> Petazz, what does your xorg.conf look like?
[13:00] <knob> It's quiet in here today.
[13:00] <Pici> everything is working
[13:02] <Guest84969> testing xchat
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest84969  it works, we see you
[13:04] <knob> lol
[13:05] <knob> True that... if everything is working... you don't hear from them users.
[13:06] <Petazz> KlausedSource: Where can that usually be found..
[13:07] <Blasteres> Petazz: Well, you can always install Ubuntu, that should solve your problem :)
[13:07] <Petazz> Blasteres: I am on installed Ubuntu :D
[13:08] <Petazz> It WAS working on liveCD, not on installed
[13:08] <Blasteres> Petazz: So you have the same problem as on liveCD?
[13:08] <Petazz> No, liveCD worked fine
[13:08] <Petazz> I might have said it wrong
[13:08] <Blasteres> well, thats unexpected
[13:08] <Petazz> I first tried with liveCD, worked fine, then install doesn't work
[13:09] <Blasteres> I think if tty isn't showing it might be some connection problem
[13:09] <Blasteres> But you alredy tried that i presume
[13:11] <Petazz> Blasteres: Yea I've checked the cables..
[13:11] <Blasteres> does xrandr output 2 monitors?
[13:11] <Petazz> And as said, it seems to work fine when booted from the liveCD (usb)
[13:11] <Petazz> Blasteres: yea it does
[13:16] <Blasteres> Petazz: What driver do you have?
[13:18] <Petazz> Blasteres: Hmm.. The usual? :D Not sure, where could I check that out?
[13:18] <Blasteres> sudo lshw -c video | grep configuration
[13:19] <Petazz> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[13:19] <clobrano> Petazz: have you installed proprietary drivers?
[13:19] <Blasteres> noveau should be fine
[13:21] <pragomer1> how to start an application one time in a different language? e.g. my system is english but I want to run darktable in german
[13:22] <Zequal> I am trying to determine 'how' ubuntu is able to use the Microsoft Surface Pro 3's touchscreen interface. I see there are a lot of hid-related kernel modules loaded.. Though I don't see the device with 'lsusb'.
[13:22] <Zequal> Anyone know how I can probe Ubuntu to find out how it's interacting with this touchscreen?
[13:23] <CedCannes> Hi
[13:24] <CedCannes> I think that I have a bug with nc command
[13:24] <Zequal> CedCannes: You should probably take that to a bug ticket system then.
[13:25] <kgalahassa> chowlett, if i reinstall ubuntu 14.04, will hdd failure  problem stop?
[13:26] <CedCannes> Zequal, ok here ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[13:26] <OerHeks> !bug
[13:26] <OerHeks> it ends up on launchpad indeed
[13:27] <CedCannes> ok thx
[13:28] <Blasteres> Petazz: You can try and install nvidia drivers (assuming you have nvidia), but i'm not sure it will get you anywhere.
[13:28] <Blasteres> It could also have something to do with xorg, not likely though, if you haven't changed anything.
[13:28] <Blasteres> Lastly, you could try installing another DE (perhaps even try running Wayland if nothing works)
[13:28] <OerHeks> kgalahassa, " hdd failure " means it is a hardware failure, backup your data and replace the hdd
[13:30] <Blasteres> Petazz: If you have a fresh system, you can try reinstall, but again, if you haven't changed anything, it probably won't help you
[13:30] <Petazz> Blasteres: I think this is an Nvidia card.. Sorry for not understanding the jargon, what do you mean by a DE?
[13:30] <Blasteres> Desktop enviroment, you are using Unity on Ubuntu I presume
[13:30] <Petazz> Yea, had the same issue actually with Linux Mint
[13:30] <Petazz> Ah true, like GNOME or KDE
[13:31] <Petazz> I always like GNOME better..
[13:31] <Blasteres> Petazz: Yes
[13:31] <mgs4> hi guys got an issue, when i have my headset in on my ubuntu anytime i press the mute key it make my window go back or webpage go back i have looked into itt but come to a dead end anyone got any ideas
[13:32] <Blasteres> Petazz: Had you the same issue with Linux Mint - based on Ubuntu?
[13:33] <mgs4> i tried mint and it was the same
[13:33] <mgs4> i have tried my other branded headset its the same
[13:35] <Tekkkz> Hi, can someone help me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/654572/audacity-doesnt-list-usb-microphone
[13:36] <MoPac> Hello. I use Ubuntu 15.04 with an 840 EVO SSD (haven't upgraded the drive firmware yet...). I'm wondering if the 3.19 series Ubuntu kernel does/will include patches (nominally from 4.05+) that make the SSD less of a ticking time bomb?
[13:37] <yjunc> 这是什么 鬼。
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[13:39] <yjunc> !cn
[13:39] <yjunc> 不懂。
[13:39] <yjunc> join#ubuntu-cn
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> yjunc  it's   /j #ubuntu-cn
[13:40] <yjunc> 人提多啊。
[13:42] <yjunc> 学好了英文再来- -|||
[13:50] <mgs4> any ideas
[13:53] <CedCannes> hum ok it is not a bug, it is just because by default unbutu use netcat bsd , with netcat-traditionnal it's work
[13:53] <CedCannes> thx
[13:56] <barq> I upgraded to 14.02 and now I get proxy error 407 us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main adm64 packages when I do apt-get update.
[13:56] <barq> How can I fix this?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> barq  i'm sure you mean 14.04.2
[13:58] <barq> MonkeyDust: Yes, 14.04.2
[14:00] <Loris> hello
[14:13] <przemytriel> how to check in the email logs all e-mail addresses which were sent to email e.g X, i was given an advice to grep it within amavis
[14:14] <magesing> I've just installed the code-aster-run and code-aster-gui packages, however, when I try to run a simulation it keeps giving me the error: <F>_FILE_NOT_FOUND file not found : /usr/STABLE/config.txt .... How can I figure out where the code-aster-run package put config.txt? Thanks.
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> przemytriel  grep to 'To' or so
[14:15] <przemytriel> MonkeyDust: Hello Mate, could you give me an example how to do it?
[14:20] <willcooke> mgs4, can you run xev from the command line, press the button and see what it says?
[14:21] <willcooke> sounds like your button is generating a strange key code
[14:22] <ringo> hello, installing 15, i get a popup during install: "The creation of swap space in partition #9 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed."...how do i fix this so i can install?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> ringo  15.04 or 15.10?   15.04 is supported, for 15.10 you should go to #ubuntu+1
[14:24] <ringo> 15.04
[14:28] <mgs4> whats the command is it sudo xev ?
[14:28] <piggyyyy> mgs4: what
[14:30] <PaulVern> !cn
[14:32] <mgs4> did xev box cam up all sorts happened showing is as a keymapper
[14:34] <MoPac> (re-ask): How can I figure out whether it's now safe to upgrade to the latest drive firmware, etc. on y Samsung 840 EVO SSD?
[14:36] <KotoRez> I am new to ubuntu. Can somebody explain to me why ubuntu has no Iptables rules by default fresh install?
[14:36] <piggyyyy> MoPac: waiting for issues
[14:36] <ne0h> hello friends how can i assign my own command in linux
[14:36] <Pici> KotoRez: because nothing is listening to your external address by default.
[14:36] <piggyyyy> ne0h: a terminal command?
[14:36] <MoPac> piggyyyy: Sorry, I didn't quite understand
[14:37] <piggyyyy> MoPac: waiting to see if other people have problems with the firmware
[14:38] <backbox> hi all
[14:38] <KotoRez> Pici: you mean by default there is no service that runs with open port?
[14:38] <backbox> am new with that system any body can help me
[14:38] <Pici> KotoRez: yes
[14:39] <backbox> what is ur name /
[14:39] <backbox> hey
[14:39] <backbox> any body here ?
[14:39] <KotoRez> Pici: but in general system usage, do I have to enable them or I am fine as is?
[14:39] <MoPac> piggyyyy: I guess what I mean to ask is: does the currently-released Ubuntu kernel version play nice with the latest Samsung SSD firmware at least in theory? (Ie, the original problem is patched?)
[14:40] <MoPac> !ask | backbox
[14:40] <Pici> KotoRez: generally, you don't need to do anything.
[14:41] <jnhghy> I have ubuntu 14.04 I'm trying to create a desktop launcher but it's not showing, I'm using unity but the code I found for desktop is:
[14:41] <jnhghy> gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop
[14:42] <jnhghy> I can't even right click on the desktop..
[14:47] <funkenstrahlen> Anyone here running btsync 2.0 on an ubuntu server?
[14:48] <funkenstrahlen> I need some help setting it up. https://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/40008-sync20-headless-server-instanceconf-how-to-set-the-secret/
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> funkenstrahlen  there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:48] <funkenstrahlen> MonkeyDust: ok i'll try that
[15:05] <HMRI> Hello, running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Trying to set up Thunderbird. Got e-mail running to my companies exchange service via Davmail, but am trying to sync to my own google calendar via Lightning. Having trouble installing lightning though, Thudnerbird will not update to the latest version. No error, it just doesn't update automatically or manually
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> HMRI  maybe it upgrades to the latest version for the thunderbird version for 12.04
[15:09] <Sneegert> hey
[15:09] <Sneegert> Can I have a question?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> HMRI  if you upgrade to 14.04, you'll probably get a newer thunderbird and newer lightning add-on
[15:10] <Kamuela> aw he left, I was ready to give Sneegert a question
[15:10] <kostkon> !info thunderbird precise
[15:10] <Kamuela> Is there a way to disable to screen-edge behaviors? Like maximizing and docking
[15:11] <OerHeks> Kamuela, sure, install unity tweak, it has those options and more
[15:11] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[15:12] <Kamuela> OerHeks, thanks
[15:15] <HMRI> MonkeyDust, thanks, I am a new hire and taking over this system from someone else, it is an LDAP client, will updating Ubuntu interfere with LDAP?
[15:16] <HMRI> MonkeyDust diclaimer, I am not very great with UNIX, just good at googling
[15:17] <cfhowlett> HMRI, linux != unix
[15:17] <HMRI> cfhowlett so then you understand how little i know about this
[15:17] <cfhowlett> :) hmri not to worry.  we all start somewhere.
[15:18] <cfhowlett> HMRI, did you know, for instance, about the #ubuntu-server channel?  ask your question there
[15:18] <HMRI> cfhowlett i did not, thanks
[15:19] <cfhowlett> happy2help! HMRI
[15:19] <Timbo> how can I change the mount options on an automounted usb stick? I want to add umask=0077
[15:19] <Timbo> I believe ubuntu uses udisks2 (via nautilus?), but I can't see where to add mount options
[15:20] <OerHeks> Timbo, what type of partition(s) are on that stick?
[15:20] <Timbo> ntfs
[15:20] <Timbo> hence wanting umask, as I can't change the permissions from the default
[15:29] <OerHeks> Timbo, Timbo, add FS_MOUNTOPTIONS="dmask=0077,uid=1000" to /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[15:33] <Timbo> OerHeks: doesn't seem to work; does ubuntu even use usbmount? Pretty sure 15.04 is using udisks2
[15:34] <Timbo> indeed usbmount is not installed
[15:37] <Qerwtr546> I know this is the Ubuntu support channel, but can anyone help me with dual booting into Linux Mint 17.1 from Windows 10?
[15:38] <Qerwtr546> The Linux channel isn't being very helpful
[15:38] <mcphail> Qerwtr546: sorry, but mint isn't supported here
[15:40] <dr_plankton> hi my love
[15:40] <magesing> Qerwtr546: although, in general, the procedure is to install windows first (leaving space for linux), then install linux (with bootloader) second. You may have to muck around with the bootloader a bit until it boots both windows and linux... The reason you need to do things in this order is because the windows bootloader won't load your linux  kern
[15:40] <magesing> els for you.
[15:41] <dr_plankton> looks bz here..
[15:43] <dr_plankton> anyone who know hw to install octoplus samsung with playonlinux or wine...
[15:43] <dr_plankton> ok....bye
[15:44] <daftykins> dr_plankton: cya o/
[15:46] <mcglitch> hi
[15:47] <mcglitch> i got this wierd bug in minecraft on the latest ubuntu
[15:50] <mcglitch> http://postimg.org/image/wuvnbawar/
[15:50] <mcglitch> anyone got any ideas whats going on here?
[15:50] <OerHeks> mcglitch, you describe what is going on  please, screenshot looks nice.
[15:51] <synergistics> I have a really dumb question and I've read the man page for ln but still have trouble understanding. If I run `ln foo.txt bar.txt` does foo refer to bar or vice versa?
[15:51] <mcglitch> u dont see the blue pixels on the block edges
[15:51] <daftykins> mcglitch: nice artefacting. share your graphics hardware and driver in use, please.
[15:51] <mcglitch> its flickering all over the place
[15:51] <daftykins> mcglitch: also ubuntu version and kernel.
[15:51] <synergistics> s/ln/ln -s
[15:51] <mcglitch> gtx 970
[15:52] <mcglitch> latest driver
[15:52] <daftykins> mcglitch: on one line so as to reduce spam, would be nice.
[15:52] <daftykins> mcglitch: latest driver is useless - i want a number.
[15:52] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[15:52] <Pici> synergistics: ln -s target linkname, so bar.txt will point to foo.txt
[15:52] <OerHeks> mcglitch, paste the output to paste,ubuntu.com
[15:54] <mcglitch> i see 3
[15:55] <synergistics> Pici: Ok thanks
[15:55] <mcglitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11967500/
[15:55] <amicrawler> man i keep loosing my wif driver
[15:56] <daftykins> mcglitch: so what is this, standard java based minecraft?
[15:56] <daftykins> try another driver or use an alternative java.
[15:56] <mcglitch> wel yes what else?
[15:56] <amicrawler> and added to modules
[15:56] <samfa> is there a ubuntu gaming room?
[15:56] <mcglitch> alternative java?
[15:56] <samfa> or Linux gaming?
[15:56] <OerHeks> !alis | samfa
[15:56] <amicrawler> when rebooting some times loose the driver any hints
[15:56] <daftykins> mcglitch: yeah, so try oracle's instead of the openjava.
[15:57] <samfa> I'm trying to make a few macros for gaming
[15:57] <bazhang> !steam | samfa
[15:57] <daftykins> !java | mcglitch
[15:58] <mcglitch> thats not in the softcenter?
[15:58] <daftykins> mcglitch: no, because it's proprietary. read the links.
[15:59] <amicrawler> is there a way i can make this driver stay put ?
[15:59] <amicrawler> compiled from src
[15:59] <amicrawler> netgear driver 8812au
[16:00] <OerHeks> amicrawler, not sure about that device, trottle back to 54 mbit? that solves lots of wifi N issues
[16:00] <mcglitch> omg this a big can of worms
[16:01] <mcglitch> i dont understand a word of this
[16:01] <amicrawler> its a ac card
[16:01] <mcglitch> wich java sude i get?
[16:01] <daftykins> "sude" ?
[16:01] <daftykins> oracle JRE 8
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> is there a wifi faster than 54mb ?
[16:01] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: tonnes.
[16:01] <mcglitch> wich version or wioch acronim?
[16:02] <mcglitch> thx
[16:02] <daftykins> mcglitch: wow that's some terrible english
[16:02] <mcglitch> i never said im english
[16:02] <rainbowwarrior> hello , I plan on buying an MSI GP70 Laptop next week , is there still a problem with the Nvidia Geforce 840m graphics card please and also will it all work without me having to install anything without problems please ? As i looked on google but nothing showing up about these laptops and ubuntu ?
[16:03] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: if it uses the killer wireless, it will likely not work still
[16:04] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins ahh ok thank you , i suppose one way for that is for me to buy a wi-fi adaptor like the asus one I have ?
[16:04] <rainbowwarrior> I mean around that problem*
[16:05] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: i can't see it from here :)
[16:06] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, true lol
[16:06] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: just look up the current state of ath10k or killer wireless support in ubuntu
[16:06] <daftykins> it may've changed by now
[16:06] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins,  ok will do and thank you :)
[16:06] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: but buying a gaming sort of laptop then running Ubuntu... seems backwards to me :)
[16:07] <rahules> Hi, I've a problem with ubuntu live cd detecting my existing Ubuntu installation. I've posted the details here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/654641/ubuntu-live-cd-not-detecting-existing-15-04-partition . Can someone please check this out?
[16:08] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, oh its not just for games, I plan on using it for radionics :)
[16:08] <OerHeks> rahules, you have /swap left from your windows install, so install ubuntu again ?
[16:09] <rahules> OerHeks: the problem is I don't have a backup and almost everything related to my work is in that extended partition
[16:09] <rahules> OerHeks: no way to get it back working again?
[16:10] <OerHeks> rahules, well, now it is gone, maybe testdisk can recover
[16:10] <daftykins> rahules: that disk is an absolute mess
[16:10] <daftykins> i'd start again if i owned that :)
[16:10] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, I will have a play when I get it , I know the asus adaptor I have works with ubuntu perfectly . so i could just buy another one if needed. :)
[16:10] <OerHeks> rahules, use a live iso, install testdisk and follow the manual http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[16:10] <rahules> daftykins: OerHeks , So I should try testdisk to recover and then do a fresh installation?
[16:11] <EriC^^> rahules: testdisk time
[16:11] <rahules> Dangit
[16:11] <daftykins> but you backed up right?
[16:11] <EriC^^> maybe you can just recover the ubuntu partition
[16:11] <EriC^^> it looks like it's missing before the swap
[16:11] <daftykins> sda1 being extended is definitely nuts++
[16:11] <OerHeks> rahules, maybe positive news: in this case, fresh install, very good chance testdisk will find partitions immediatly ..
[16:11] <rahules> daftykins: I really did, but unfortunately, I wiped the exact partition where I had backed up my stuff to install windows without thinking
[16:12] <EriC^^> sectors 2046 til 761479167
[16:12] <daftykins> oh you never store a 'backup' on the same disk.
[16:12] <OerHeks> one big extended
[16:12] <rahules> I'll try testdisk. Hopefully it can recover about 200GB worth of files
[16:12] <daftykins> buy yourself a nice external drive perhaps
[16:12] <daftykins> or a NAS
[16:13] <EriC^^> rahules: type sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk
[16:13] <raub> How can I mount an ext4 local partition as a given user?
[16:13] <rahules> daftykins: Yea, I was going to put it in an external hdd but I couldn't get the time
[16:13] <rahules> EriC^^: thanks. I'll try that.
[16:13] <daftykins> rahules: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdX# /media/mountpoint -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[16:13] <EriC^^> rahules: you don't need to recover the files, just recover the whole partition while keeping the rest there too, or just that partition if you can't keep windows
[16:13] <daftykins> sorry the above was for raub ^
[16:13] <daftykins> silly irssi
[16:13] <EriC^^> rahules: stick around in you try testdisk, we've used it many times here
[16:14] <EriC^^> *if
[16:14] <rahules> EriC^^:  I really don't need the windows installation. It was just for a temporary requirement
[16:14] <EriC^^> rahules: well, it doesn't matter, if they partitions don't overlap then it's ok
[16:15] <EriC^^> you'll just be writing the old partition's where abouts
[16:15] <rahules> Okay, I'm booting in to live disk no
[16:15] <__nemo__> Hey. Im trying to clone a disk to another using 'dd'. The problem is that the two disks arent the same size (500GB HDD -> 240GB SSD) , so I cant straight clone bit by bit. is there a way I can create the partitions and copy the data, but ignore the "whitespace"? Ive tried creating the partitions on the SSD through gparted, but I cant make enough primary partitions. The program stops at 4, but the original HDD contains 6 partitions, all who ap
[16:15] <rahules> now*
[16:15] <raub> daftykins: Thanks but my question was for ext4, not ntfs
[16:17] <daftykins> raub: ah yes, same deal just a mental hiccup :D
[16:17] <daftykins> just substitute ntfs for ext4
[16:17] <daftykins> but bear in mind you'll have on-disk permissions after that too
[16:18] <raub> daftykins: I am being told those options are unrecognized
[16:18] <daftykins> raub: pastebin or it didn't happen.
[16:18] <daftykins> as fun as it is to help people out when blind, i'd rather see...
[16:19] <EriC^^> daftykins: lol
[16:19] <EriC^^> pastebin or it didn't happen :D
[16:21] <wileee> __nemo__, Are you backed up otherwise prepared for any failure?
[16:22] <wileee> you can straight clone if that all fits on the ssd anyway, think about it a minute.
[16:22] <__nemo__> wileee: Yes I should be fine if the copy breaks.
[16:22] <__nemo__> wileee: ye all the data fits on the new drive. Im just worried the partitionsizes will make something stop
[16:24] <wileee> __nemo__, dd is fine I never use it so can't help there is all. I would resize the first partitions to be just slightly smaller than the size overall on the ssd. I like having images myself is all.
[16:25] <mcglitch> hey stupid question but how do i run minecraft.jar? all i can select is that opejava thing and i just installed the java8
[16:26] <wileee> __nemo__, I hope nothing has been left out like lvm, err btrfs....etc is all
[16:29] <daftykins> mcglitch: update-alternatives first to pick the java, then you can type "java minecraft.jar" or similar in a terminal, or in a script - there should be roughly one billion guides sharing how to do this online
[16:29] <__nemo__> wileee: well. I'll find out in 0-9 hours :)
[16:30] <wileee> __nemo__, Good luck. ;)
[16:31] <__nemo__> thnx
[16:31] <mcglitch> Error: Could not find or load main class minecraft.jar
[16:32] <teward> you have to pass -jar i think with it
[16:32] <daftykins> mcglitch: you're probably not in the same folder as it .
[16:32] <teward> at least, with oracle java
[16:32] <teward> but you should be in the same folder as the jar, yes.
[16:34] <mcglitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11967691/
[16:34] <rahules> EriC^^: Can you please tell me how I can recover the partition with testdisk? I've analysed the disk and I am presented with a list of partitions where the Linux partition is being shown. But there is no 'Write' option
[16:35] <mcglitch> i have no clue what that means
[16:37] <Sbur> I just got a Wifi ac adapter for my desktop. The brand = COMFAST, Model CF-912AC. It doesn't work.  How can I troubleshoot it to see if it is a power issue or a driver issue or something else?
[16:37] <mcglitch> i cant even google this error ...
[16:38] <daftykins> Sbur: identify the actual chipset by looking for its' lsusb or lspci entry to start with
[16:38] <nicomachus> mcglitch: looks like "libXtst.so.6" doesn't exist.
[16:38] <nicomachus> but I have no idea, because java.
[16:39] <mcglitch> yea i have no clue to
[16:39] <daftykins> rahules: i think in an ideal world you'd be restoring it to another disk
[16:39] <mcglitch> also because java
[16:39] <Sbur> daftykins: Ok, will do.  But I will need to do that offline as I can't get it to show Wifi when it is connected.  Brb
[16:40] <daftykins> wat
[16:40] <rahules> daftykins: No way I can recover the partition table? Because when I tried listing the files in testdisk, i think all the files were being detected
[16:40] <tgm4883> nicomachus: yep, that is what that means
[16:41] <daftykins> rahules: i'm sure EriC^^ will be your best bet when he returns :>
[16:41] <EriC^^> rahules: yes, 1 min :)
[16:41] <rahules> daftykins: thanks.
[16:41] <rahules> EriC^^: sure.
[16:41] <Dstevens08> hey guys
[16:41] <daftykins> lo
[16:41] <ioria> mcglitch, locate libXtst
[16:42] <mcglitch> ok got a fix, just to let yuou know i folowed this stuff and its resolved now http://askubuntu.com/questions/613881/how-to-open-minecraft-jar
[16:43] <Sbur> daftykins: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967737/
[16:43] <mcglitch> god damit, it dint fix the bug
[16:43] <mcglitch> i still have graphical glitches
[16:43] <daftykins> mcglitch: change driver next then.
[16:43] <OerHeks> no need to swear, mcglitch
[16:44] <mcglitch> its not swearing
[16:44] <Sbur> daftykins: Am I in trouble if I want this to function?
[16:44] <daftykins> mcglitch: don't argue.
[16:44] <mcglitch> ok, but what you recomend then?
[16:45] <mcglitch> last time i changed drive i had to reinstall the entire os
[16:45] <daftykins> what did i just say?
[16:45] <daftykins> then you messed up :)
[16:45] <tgm4883> you shouldn't need to reinstall because you installed a driver
[16:45] <tgm4883> mcglitch: how did you install the driver
[16:46] <EriC^^> rahules: i'm back
[16:46] <Sbur> daftykins: ur busy ... I'll be back
[16:46] <mcglitch> software updates?
[16:46] <daftykins> Sbur: takes me more than 5 seconds to check a link - ugh
[16:46] <rahules> Hey EriC^^ , So after analysing and a quick search, testdisk showed the Linux partition but there is no
[16:46] <rahules> there is no 'Write' option
[16:46] <EriC^^> rahules: after you press quick search, you get the partitions it found, use the right arrow to select it to be in the partition table
[16:47] <EriC^^> rahules: try to get all the partitions there, the linux and windows one, using the right arrow
[16:47] <tgm4883> mcglitch: and what happened that made you need to reinstall?
[16:47] <EriC^^> anything you write there will be the new partition table, so if you only choose the linux one, the windows will disappear
[16:47] <rahules> EriC^^: Ok, let me try that
[16:47] <mcglitch> it would not output to the display at all
[16:48] <rahules> EriC^^: So, how do I set them. Should everything be primary?
[16:48] <tgm4883> mcglitch: so you didn't see BIOS, you didn't see the boot screen either?
[16:48] <rahules> Including linux swap?
[16:48] <EriC^^> rahules: i'd try to make it like it was, i dunno
[16:49] <mcglitch> i got no signal from the graphics card wen the driver crashed
[16:49] <EriC^^> rahules: you had an extended one with linux and swap and 2 primaries for windows i think
[16:49] <tgm4883> mcglitch: could you ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console?
[16:49] <mcglitch> idk
[16:49] <tgm4883> mcglitch: yes, yes you could
[16:50] <mcglitch> its like typing blind
[16:50] <tgm4883> mcglitch: what do you mean?
[16:50] <rahules> EriC^^: using the arrow keys, I can only set it to primary bootable, primary or logical
[16:50] <mcglitch> the display said no signal
[16:50] <EriC^^> rahules: set the linux and swap to logical, and windows to primary
[16:50] <rahules> and when I set swap as logical, it says bad structure
[16:51] <tgm4883> mcglitch: switching to TTY1 wouldn't use your proprietary graphics drivers
[16:51] <EriC^^> rahules: hmm, try the linux as logical, and windows as primary, forget the swap you can easily recreate it
[16:51] <mcglitch> what is tty1?
[16:51] <rahules> EriC^^: okay
[16:52] <tgm4883> mcglitch: that is where you go when you hit ctrl-alt-F1
[16:52] <tgm4883> mcglitch: it's a console
[16:52] <timbozeman> Can I make F8 send paste keys (ctrl + v) through the system shortcuts settings?
[16:52] <daftykins> try it and see
[16:53] <mcglitch> nice try tgm
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> timbozeman  system settings > keyboard> shortcuts
[16:54] <mcglitch> i got stuck in the dam terminal
[16:54] <rahules> EriC^^: Sorry, forgot to set windows as bootable. Have to load live cd and try again
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> mcglitch  what are you struggling with?
[16:54] <EriC^^> rahules: did you press write in testdisk?
[16:54] <mcglitch> http://postimg.org/image/wuvnbawar/
[16:55] <rahules> EriC^^: yes
[16:55] <mcglitch> graphics bug in minecraft
[16:55] <mcglitch> already changed java
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> oh, minecraft
[16:55] <mcglitch> so thats not the isue
[16:55] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, i think you can set the bootflag from fdisk
[16:55] <rahules> EriC^^: okay. I'm booting back in to live cd. Maybe fdisk will show the linux partition
[16:56] <raub> daftykins: sorry for taking so long, but http://pastebin.com/NJFKqCaT
[16:56] <mcglitch> im runing nvidia dv352.30 but im afrade to change driver cuz last time it tanked the my gpu compleetly
[16:57] <raub> daftykins: Can we now say it happened? ;)
[16:57] <daftykins> raub: you appear to have typed ext3 but i thought you mentioned ext4 earlier
[16:58] <daftykins> raub: show me a "sudo parted -l"
[16:58] <mcglitch> sude i try the nouveau driver or an older nvidia driver?
[16:58] <rahules> EriC^^: Can you check the output of 'fdisk -l' here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11967827/ . Does this look ok? Can i try grub install now?
[16:58] <daftykins> mcglitch: no to nouveau
[16:59] <raub> daftykins: I did it from scratch since I have no access to the other machine right now
[16:59] <rainbowwarrior> hi cfhowlett  just want to let you know that 15.4 and 15.10 does not see the hp 4507 printer and that was with an old version and latest version of hplip
[16:59] <mcglitch> wel only other option is the older nvidia driver then
[16:59] <OerHeks> Glitches in minecraft, if you zoom in you see a windows 10 logo
[16:59] <daftykins> raub: so why v3?
[16:59] <tgm4883> mcglitch: uh, yes. You would end up in a terminal. That's what I said would happen. Then we can look at some logs and see why it wasn't starting properly
[17:00] <EriC^^> rahules: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[17:00] <daftykins> raub: you are messing around mounting as root, you've got to change permissions after a normal mount to actually write as a user to it :)
[17:00] <tgm4883> mcglitch: and you aren't stuck, ctrl-alt-f7 would bring you back to the graphical environment
[17:00] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, whaaaaaaa? sorry to hear you're still fighting with this.  sadly, the best option is for HP to support their hardware by releasing a driver.
[17:00] <raub> daftykins: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967846/
[17:00] <mcglitch> wish me luck
[17:00] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett I agree
[17:00] <rahules> I did EriC^^ . Should I make sda5 (Linux partition) bootable?
[17:01] <EriC^^> no, i guess it doesn't matter but set the windows one to bootable
[17:01] <raub> daftykins: I thought mount by default was a root command
[17:01] <daftykins> raub: yeah but you use sudo...
[17:01] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett I downgraded back to 14.04 and works fine with hplip
[17:01] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, nicely done!
[17:01] <raub> daftykins: what is the different between executing mount as root vs as sudo?
[17:02] <raub> besides keeping records?
[17:02] <daftykins> raub: so you can keep it simpler than that. as the user - "sudo mount -t /dev/sdb1 /mount/point -o user,auto" then "ls -al /mount/point" and pastebin that to see issues
[17:02] <daftykins> i'll let you look that one up at your leisure
[17:02] <rahules> EriC^^: I made the windows partition bootable but I am looking to boot in to grub. So what would be the next step
[17:02] <EriC^^> rahules: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[17:02] <raub> daftykins: do you want also it to be ext4?
[17:03] <daftykins> raub: that's up to you, i'm ok :)
[17:03] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett my next experiment will be either next week or the week just after that when I get an MSI GP70 and play with the wifi card lol :)
[17:03] <cfhowlett> best of luck!
[17:03] <rahules> Mounted it EriC^^
[17:03] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett,  thank you :)
[17:03] <EriC^^> rahules: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:04] <twonics> hi guys. if there are two NICs on a server (1x LAN, 1x DMZ), on which NIC do I set a default gw if both NICs on the firewall are configured to have an upstream gw anyway. so on both NICs on the server you could theoretically go out to the internet.
[17:04] <EriC^^> type the above line rahules
[17:05] <rahules> Ran  it too EriC^^
[17:05] <temp_HD4600> Hello. I'm on 15.04, on a machine with Intel Graphics HD4600. For some reason I can't get video output on HDMI, only on DVI. Anyone has any clue?
[17:06] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: with something else connected, or as the sole display?
[17:06] <rainbowwarrior> hi , how do i donate to ubuntu please ? As I have had lots of help from you great people in here, so would like to donate soon :)
[17:06] <rainbowwarrior> !Topic
[17:06] <sarkyniin> hey
[17:06] <dave102> guys can anyone tell me how i can use grep to exclude a directory in bash? im currently in / and want to exclude /mnt recursively
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> !donate | temp_HD4600
[17:06] <sarkyniin> is there any application that allows me to change a key binding in a single application/window?
[17:06] <rainbowwarrior> MonkeyDust thank you :)
[17:06] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, I have 2 cables: one DVI and another HDMI, both running to the same TV. I'm only connecting DVI because I don't have another screen and I need to use this computer. I figured once I get HDMI working I'll unplug DVI.
[17:06] <daftykins> dave102: #bash might be handy if you get no response
[17:07] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: ok well cold boot (i.e. from powered off) with just HDMI connected, DVI totally removed... and see what happens.
[17:07] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[17:07] <dave102> daftykins: doesnt necessarily need to be form bash just from a terminal
[17:07] <dearn> Hey guys. Not really Ubuntu related - My PC doesn't boot, I cannot even enter bios setup, it keeps bootlooping with A2 error (MSI Motherboard). I found advice on net to try restarting CMOS. How to do that? Is taking out battery enough? Because it tried and nothing changed
[17:07] <temp_HD4600> ok will do and report back.
[17:07] <raub> daftykins: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967877/
[17:07] <rahules> Done EriC^^
[17:07] <Raulwynn> So I've been working with 15.04 and I can't find any reason to stay with Ubuntu. It can't perform simple tasks without using 10x the resources as Windows or OSX. I can't even play online videos with a Wolfsdale and a nvidia GTX 660. How can I get my computer to perform using more than 10% of it's capability?
[17:08] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[17:08] <daftykins> dave102: yeah but they might know...
[17:08] <dave102> daftykins: ok thanks
[17:08] <rainbowwarrior> !participate
[17:08] <daftykins> raub: so now "sudo chown -R user: /tmp/user/"
[17:09] <vbotka_> dearn, there shall be a pin on the motherboard to reset the CMOS
[17:09] <daftykins> s/pin/jumper/
[17:09] <rahules> EriC^^: It says installation finished without error. So, should i try rebooting?
[17:09] <TJ-> dearn: if that's an ATX motherboard (not a laptop/notebook) then removing the CMOS battery and/or shorting the CMOS reset pins should be sufficient. Check the motherboard manual for accurate details of course
[17:09] <EriC^^> rahules: not yet, type update-grub
[17:09] <rahules> Done EriC^^
[17:10] <EriC^^> rahules: type nano /etc/fstab, comment out the line that says swap
[17:10] <EriC^^> add a # before it
[17:10] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, same behavior. I just noticed something too: bios boot screen doesn't show on HDMI. Think I should change something in BIOS? It's a Gigabyte z97n board
[17:10] <aktx> http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/07/29/tape-your-webcam-horrifying-malware-broadcasts-you-to-the-world
[17:10] <rahules> EriC^^: the line below swap right
[17:11] <dearn> vbotka_: TJ- the problem is there are is no 'jumper' not sure how to call it on those pins - in manual it says no 'jumper' on reset pins means it keeps date, and putting 'jumper' on them resets it - but I don't have this thingy (jumper?) to put on pins
[17:11] <EriC^^> rahules: the one that says UUID=....... swap 0 0
[17:11] <Guest20846> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop !
[17:11] <Guest20846> any ideas ?
[17:11] <rahules> EriC^^: yes. Okay, commented it
[17:11] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: is it the only HDMI cable you have? and only input on the TV? if you have another system i'd be handy to SSH in and read the X log to see what's going wrong.
[17:12] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type exit, then restart
[17:12] <TJ-> dearn: "jumper" just means shorting the pins... hold a metal screwdriver blade across them , or anything small and electrically conductive
[17:12] <dearn> TJ-: is taking battery enough? I even tried putting it (but not all the way down) (as it said on MSI youtube video) but maybe I have to press it all the way down?
[17:12] <rahules> ok EriC^^ . fingers crossed
[17:12] <raub> daftykins: It worked! http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967900/
[17:12] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, in what sense "only"? I have other peripherals connected to the TV. But not an hour ago I had another laptop connected to the same HDMI input of the TV (that laptop running Linux Mint and ATI graphics card). So I'm almost sure it's not the TV.
[17:13] <twonics> hi guys. if there are two NICs on a server (1x LAN, 1x DMZ), on which NIC do I set a default gw if both NICs on the firewall are configured to have an upstream gw anyway. so on both NICs on the server you could theoretically go out to the internet.
[17:13] <daftykins> raub: don't be so shocked :P
[17:13] <dc> Hi, I've a problem and no idea howto:
[17:13] <dearn> TJ-: aight I'm gonna try that now.. I'm kinda worried something is f**d with my Motherboard. :( Thats what happens when you try to upgrade to Windows 10
[17:13] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: ok. fully updated install?
[17:13] <cfhowlett> dearn, you might want search for your device's service manual.  it'll answer those specific types of questions
[17:13] <raub> So the uid=,gid= do not work in ext as I originally thought
[17:13] <cfhowlett> !details | dc
[17:13] <raub> but the option user takes care of that
[17:13] <daftykins> raub: no, still wrong. the permissions on the file system are still there regardless.
[17:13] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, yes. I was on 3.19 kernel, and just to try things I just upgraded to 4.1.3
[17:13] <TJ-> dearn: when you remove the battery there are capacitors on the motherboard that may hold charge for a minute or more, but by shorting the CMOS reset pins it directly grounds the integrated circuit CLEAR signal
[17:13] <dearn> cfhowlett: all it said was to put metal thingy on those pins ut I don't have it so I' gonna try with screwdriver as TJ- suggested
[17:13] <daftykins> raub: no it does not :)
[17:13] <Raulwynn> !details | ubuntu
[17:13] <Guest20846> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop !
[17:14] <Guest20846> and how can I change my nickname ?
[17:14] <teward> Guest20846: repeating yourself doesn'thelp
[17:14] <Raulwynn> !fail
[17:14] <teward> so don't repeat
[17:14] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: ok so SSH in and pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log when booting with just HDMI to see what's up
[17:14] <teward> Guest20846: /nick SomeOtherNickHere
[17:14] <raub> daftykins: can you explain it?
[17:14] <dearn> TJ-: ok gonna try it again, also is that true that holding power button (with power supply off) will discharge capacitors?
[17:14] <daftykins> raub: sorry nope.
[17:14] <raub> k
[17:14] <Guest20846> :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
[17:15] <rahules> It is working EriC^^ . I thought I had lost all my data. You've been a lifesaver. Thank you very much
[17:15] <teward> Guest20846: then pick another one
[17:15] <TJ-> dearn: it used to but less likely these days since ATX supplies generally are activated by a low-power signal rather than having their power directly controlled
[17:15] <EriC^^> rahules: great, no problem
[17:15] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, sorry but what do you mean SSH in? I'm now on this machine itself with that behavior, and I just cold-booted on HDMI (then when it was a black screen, re-plugged DVI to be able to log in). Will the logs be available?
[17:15] <EriC^^> rahules: you wanna make the swap partition?
[17:15] <dc> Hi
[17:15] <dc> wget -P . https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/myplace/myfile.txt --no-check-certificate
[17:15] <dc> ERROR 404:not found
[17:15] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: no since the log is now that of being DVI connected.
[17:15] <dearn> TJ-: thanks
[17:15] <daftykins> !ssh | temp_HD4600
[17:16] <teward> dc: check the remote server error logs - 404 NOT FOUND means that either the server is saying it doesn't exist, or it intentionally returned that coded
[17:16] <cfhowlett> dc looks like you have an incorrect download url
[17:16] <rahules> EriC^^: yes I'd like that
[17:16] <dc> teward: Exist
[17:17] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda, and make a swap partition in the free space
[17:17] <EriC^^> brb
[17:17] <rahules> EriC^^: okay
[17:17] <dc> cfhowlett: I think is a config problem on remote, but I have no idea were
[17:18] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, sorry to be such a pushover but I'm new to this. If I install putty, do I use a machine on the same domain to ssh to this one? (since when on HDMI I can't see anything)
[17:18] <TJ-> dc: is the file accessible to the http server user ID?
[17:19] <OerHeks> " wget -P . https/... " is that dot a typo?
[17:19] <Guest80777> hi
[17:19] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: two systems, same network. if both are Linux, you open a terminal and type "ssh IP_address_of_other" assuming openssh-server is already installed.
[17:19] <dc> TJ-: Localy yes
[17:20] <dc> OerHeks: dot
[17:20] <Guest80777> yes, i like that new ubuntu core thing
[17:20] <TJ-> OerHeks: No, -P . is the default directory to download to... and the default if -P isn't used so unnecessary
[17:20] <daftykins> PuTTY is simply the Windows client.
[17:20] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, ok I'll configure ssh here and try to find my way around it
[17:20] <Guest80777> true, putty is windows client for connecting to unix/linux
[17:20] <TJ-> dc: if the server runs as the www-data user, does the file have ownership/permissions for that user?
[17:20] <Guest80777> and other good one is kitty, which is based upon putty
[17:21] <daftykins> Guest80777: yes, but not relevant to the current conversation.
[17:21] <Marezz> hello everyone! :)
[17:21] <daftykins> hello
[17:22] <dc> TJ-: Ah, may be thats the problem. Ill change it and ... Ill guive news. Thanks, Bye
[17:22] <dearn> TJ-: touch JBAT1 (reset pins according to documentation) with 2 screwdrivers didn't help... one last thing - will taking CMOS battery out for whole night will be enough to make sure problem is not BIOS related ?
[17:22] <EriC^^> rahules: i'm back
[17:22] <rahules> Ok EriC^^ , I've made the swap partition. Should I restart after write?
[17:23] <EriC^^> rahules: no, type sudo blkid
[17:23] <TJ-> dearn: if you've shorted the reset pins that would be sufficient. Are there add-in PCI adapter  cards plugged in? In these cases it often helps to remove everything, disconnect disk drives, and just try to get the Mobo+CPU+RAM+video to start
[17:23] <rahules> I did EriC^^
[17:23] <EriC^^> rahules: get the UUID and then type sudo nano /etc/fstab and replace the old UUID with the new one
[17:23] <TJ-> dearn: when the PC powers-on does the CPU fan start turning?
[17:24] <rahules> EriC^^: it's not showing the swap partition.
[17:24] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo parted -l
[17:24] <EriC^^> do you see it there?
[17:25] <dearn> TJ-: yes they do and it starts to bootloop with A2 on bottomright of screen. When I spam F2/delete it also shows info about "Entering Setup" but it resets before doing so
[17:25] <rahules> EriC^^: it's showing the partition but the file system part is blank
[17:26] <dearn> TJ-: gonna try unplug wifi card and graphic card as well and try to start it from integrated one
[17:26] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mkswap /dev/sdxY rahules
[17:26] <EriC^^> replace sdxY with it's number
[17:26] <Sbur> daftykins: I can't see my Wifi thing under lsusb or lspci
[17:27] <rahules> ok EriC^^ , now it's showing the block id
[17:27] <TJ-> dearn: what is the exact model number of the motherboard?
[17:27] <daftykins> Sbur: is it USB or what?
[17:27] <EriC^^> ok, replace the uuid
[17:27] <rahules> EriC^^: I did
[17:28] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo swapon /dev/sdxY
[17:28] <Sbur> daftykins: It connects in the USB port, yes.  And it is supposed to be usb 3
[17:28] <Sbur> I don't know whether or not my ports support usb 3
[17:28] <rahules> Done EriC^^
[17:28] <yodaantifa> can I repeat niw?
[17:29] <yodaantifa> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop !
[17:29] <xcyclist> I am re-asking this here, even though Ubuntu may do it differently, because nobody seems to be at home in redhat land, as one might expect:  What is the dot in the far right column of ls -l file permission reporting like:  -rw-r--r--.    ??????
[17:29] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type free -m , does it show up?
[17:29] <Sbur> daftykins: I don't know whether or not my ports support usb 3
[17:29] <rahules> EriC^^: I just tried htop and  it's showing swap
[17:29] <daftykins> Sbur: they'd be blue or have a "SS" logo beside them if they were v3.0. you might want to unplug it, run "lsusb" then plug it in again and re-run "lsusb" to see which entry is added
[17:29] <Sbur> daftykins: brb
[17:29] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, cool
[17:29] <rahules> Yes, free -m is also showing swap
[17:30] <rahules> Thanks for your help again EriC^^ , really appreciate it
[17:30] <xcyclist> Is that kind of dot in file permissions even used outside of redhat?
[17:31] <EriC^^> rahules: no problem :)
[17:32] <geronimo_> ive a problem, the thing at the top of the screen that displays menus icons and clock is missing .can i restart a processes to fix?
[17:32] <rahules> EriC^^: one more thing, will there be any problem with boot if I had to delete the windows partition?
[17:33] <ex0r> Hmm.. I had ubuntu 14.04 and windows 7 dual booted together, and ubuntu was the default boot OS. I recently upgraded my win7 to win10, and it overwrote the boot order it appears because it automatically boots into windows 10 now without even prompting.. how can I fix this?
[17:33] <TJ-> xcyclist: not sure; it could be indicating there are some ACLs set on that entry
[17:33] <cfhowlett> ex0r, reinstall grub
[17:33] <cfhowlett> !grub | ex0r
[17:33] <EriC^^> rahules: no, i don't think so
[17:33] <rahules> okay, thanks :)
[17:33] <ex0r> yes, that will help.
 in my experience the easyest thing to do is to download a boot repair live cd !
[17:33] <EriC^^> np
[17:34] <ex0r> That will work, thank you.
[17:35] <Sbur> daftykins: I'm back with an answer
[17:35] <Sbur> daftykins: Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0bda:8812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[17:35] <daftykins> had a feeling it was that one
[17:35] <Sbur> daftykins: This is the only change in lsusb.  No change in lspci
[17:36] <daftykins> well yeah because you didn't unplug a PCI device
[17:36] <Sbur> daftykins: Is that a problem?
[17:36] <daftykins> nah i'm just pointing out how it was pointless to check PCI devices
[17:36] <daftykins> so apparently that might be a Realtek RTL8812AU device
[17:37] <MoPac> Hello. I think this is probably just a Google-fu failure, but I'm wondering if there is a standard way to try out Ubuntu Gnome in an LXC? (Or, I guess, to replicate the old "gnome fallback" without messing with any current Unity settings. I just want to have a poke at it in a way that's easily reversible.
[17:37] <Sbur> daftykins: I'm sorry, but as you probably can see, I'm a noob
[17:37] <daftykins> Sbur: is your install fully up to date?
[17:37] <Sbur> daftykins: As far as I know, yes
[17:37] <daftykins> check
[17:38] <Sbur> daftykins: But my mother board ... grandmother board.  MS7502
[17:39] <Sbur> daftykins:just did.  Not up to date, but I will change that immediately
[17:39] <daftykins> why are you telling me your motherboard?
[17:40] <Sbur> daftykins: Should that fix the problem or will I need another repo?
[17:40] <daftykins> Sbur: update, restart, then click the dash icon top left and type "additional drivers" - see if you are offered any
[17:40] <Sbur> daftykins: Sorry, when you asked me if it was up to date ...
[17:41] <Sbur> daftykins: Update what?  I did my software update
[17:41] <daftykins> yeah the OS.
[17:41] <daftykins> since we're in an OS support channel
[17:42] <Sbur> daftykins: what is the "dash icon top left"?
[17:42] <yodaantifa> Sbur how did you update ?
[17:42] <Sbur> yodaantifa: Software updater
[17:42] <Sbur> yodaantifa: Like I always do
[17:42] <Sbur> brb
[17:43] <yodaantifa> oh ok ! I thoght you update by terminal, cause sometimes there is confution between the commands :D
[17:49] <yodaantifa> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop ! any ideas what should I chek first ?
[18:00] <BenMcLean> my ubuntu won't do higher screen resolutions
[18:00] <BenMcLean> I tried the commands on this blog post http://www.thefourtheye.in/2013/04/ubuntu-screen-custom-resolution.html
[18:00] <BenMcLean> the screen goes blank for a bit then comes back unchanged
[18:00] <Sam___> So I reinstalled windows 7 on my dualboot ubuntu (they are in different partition) now when I choose windows in grub page I see this one before windows start to boot. http://imgur.com/wRxejZC
[18:01] <Sam___> Ubuntu 14.04
[18:01] <BenMcLean> how do I make the screen resolution bigger? I have a TV hooked up to this laptop with HDMI
[18:01] <BenMcLean> right now it's even the wrong ratio
[18:01] <EriC^^> !xrandr
[18:01] <cfhowlett> Sam___,did dualboot ever work?
[18:02] <TJ-> BenMcLean: the correct resolution depends on the display reporting the valid modes to the GPU using a data structure called EDID. If that fails then the GPU won't know which modes are valid. To check for that, look for EDID messages in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:02] <Sam___> Oh everything works on windows and ubuntu but I get that screenshot error before getting to windows
[18:03] <Sam___> Yes dual boot worked aswell
[18:03] <MoPac> Has there been any recent (last 6 months) progress on multi-touch support in Unity7, or is all that development in Unity8? I'm wondering if I'll really have to wait for 16.04+ to do anything other than the couple of default window gestures.
[18:05] <Sam___> cfhowlett: Yes dual boot worked aswell . I just dont like to get that error
[18:06] <BenMcLean> TJ- here's what it says http://pastebin.com/0T1M8j6g
[18:08] <dc> hi
[18:08] <dc> Hi, the same file, 3 diferent ways, 3 diferent responses:
[18:08] <dc> wget -P . https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/myplace/myfile.txt --no-check-certificate
[18:08] <dc> Doing from remote: ERROR 404:not found
[18:08] <dc> Doing from local, but over the net, it means giving my external IP: Connecting with ... connection refused
[18:08] <dc> Doing from local -localhost or 127.0.0.1 -> OK
[18:09] <OerHeks> !paste
[18:09] <daftykins> dc: right so you're not listening remotely then.
[18:10] <TJ-> BenMcLean: looks like there could be more useful info in that file, can you pastebin the entire contents? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:10] <dc> daftykins: telnet works
[18:10] <BenMcLean> no. didn't know there was a pastebinit. I found the first occurrence of EDID and pasted from there. i will pastebin the whole thing
[18:11] <TJ-> dc: That sounds like you've not got the correct VirtualHost configuration for the public IP/hostname
[18:11] <BenMcLean> TJ- here! and thanks for telling me about pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/11968234/
[18:12] <TJ-> BenMcLean: look at lines 170/1 - those look like the correct modes don't they?
[18:13] <BenMcLean> TJ- look. in the log. but that's not the actual sizes I'm seeing
[18:13] <BenMcLean> i typed those in at the command line
[18:13] <dc> TJ-:ok, iLL CHECK
[18:13] <BenMcLean> er, "terminal" -- whatever, i'm new to linux ^_^
[18:14] <user__> hi
[18:15] <TJ-> BenMcLean: What is the make/model of the TV?
[18:15] <BenMcLean> lemme see ... it's vizio
[18:15] <BenMcLean> but i gotta turn it round and look at the back, brb
[18:16] <TJ-> BenMcLean: OK ... all those "HDMI max TMDS frequency 230000KHz" suggest a bad or plain incorrect EDID
[18:16] <server-help> 1fUbuntu12.041f.......anyone?
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | server-help
[18:19] <daftykins> server-help: that's not a question
[18:19] <cfhowlett> !details | server-help, no detailz = no answerz.
[18:21] <server-help> I have a 12.04 server that hangs on boot just after the bit about IPv4 addressing.  Then 1fUbuntu12.041f.... repeats several tims across the top of the display and then nothing
[18:22] <cfhowlett> !server | server-help see the server channel
[18:23] <javii> hola?
[18:23] <BenMcLean> TJ- what would you suggest doing?
[18:23] <BenMcLean> would trying a different HDMI cable help
[18:24] <javii> hi
[18:25] <TJ-> BenMcLean: first thing is to get the manual for the display and determine what it is capable of on the HDMI port, then figure out what the GPU sees via EDID, and then maybe discover why it is selecting and then changing the 1920x1080 mode
[18:25] <TJ-> BenMcLean: which is why I asked for the model number
[18:25] <javii> alguien que hable español?
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !es | javii
[18:26] <BenMcLean> oh right i'm sorry, i didn't get that yet, did i
[18:26] <javii> graciass
[18:28] <jake_> hello again
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> jake_: welcome, what can we do for you?
[18:29] <jake_> Aaah, nothing for now. :) But thanks!
[18:31] <tgm4883> TJ-: it's not uncommon for the EDID to just be bad either. It's possible he'd need to set ignoreEDID and set it up manually
[18:33] <poopsniffer> \server irc.irchighway.net
[18:36] <nuk3> hey guys, anyone know exactly which font / suite of icons, are required to display the "Valid Name" and "Valid Executable" tick icons when editing quick launch icons in Cinnamon?
[18:36] <BenMcLean> JD- I got the TV model, but a coworker found the real problem for me
[18:37] <BenMcLean> I was attempting to mirror my laptop display
[18:37] <BenMcLean> Ubuntu limits mirrored displays to the smallest display being mirrored
[18:38] <BenMcLean> So while on Windows 8.1, plugging in a big screen TV takes you to the big screen TV's resolution, doing the same thing on Ubuntu limits you to the laptop's resolution unless you turn the laptop's built-in display off
[18:38] <EriC^^> you can set mirroring off and have different resolutions on both
[18:38] <BenMcLean> once I turned the built-in display off, I could go to 1080p or whatever
[18:40] <SCHAAP137> so, a higher resolution than the laptop can technically handle, gets downscaled to the laptop's screen?
[18:40] <SCHAAP137> like, 1920*1080 scaled to 1600*900 because of plugging in that external Full HD screen?
[18:41] <EriC^^> i think he means just the monitor
[18:41] <tgm4883> SCHAAP137: sounds more like the laptop's 1600x900 gets upscaled to the TV
[18:41] <BenMcLean> The laptop can't do 1600x900 apparently
[18:41] <BenMcLean> it was weird
[18:42] <mircx1> !pate
[18:42] <BenMcLean> limited to 1024x768 if mirrored, but can go to 1080p if i turn the built-in display off
[18:42] <SCHAAP137> and if you used extending instead of mirroring?
[18:42] <mircx1> Hello
[18:42] <mircx1> how i fix this a error
[18:42] <mircx1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11968417/
[18:42] <SCHAAP137> mirroring will just copy the exact same screen, you could just run them as separate ones
[18:43] <SCHAAP137> *while you could
[18:43] <mircx1> someone please?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> mircx1  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[18:45] <mircx1> what?
[18:45] <mircx1> how i fix this please?
[18:45] <mircx1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11968417/
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> mircx1  that is the outout of what exactly?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> output
[18:46] <ki7mt> And what was the command that initiated the error.
[18:53] <TJ-> mircx1: If you're running the compiled binary without installing it, you must use the .libs/ generated output so that the shared library dependencies can be located
[18:57] <mircx1> ok then how i fix it?
[18:57] <mircx1> i try run something
[18:57] <mircx1> and this a firt time i see problem
[18:58] <TJ-> mircx1: execute the binary in the .libs/ directory. What application is it?
[18:58] <Horseface> hello
[18:59] <Euphoria42> Hello Horseface
[19:00] <Horseface> i can_t find de_loadkeys1 on my sistem after a reboot
[19:00] <Horseface> ls -R | grep de-latin1 no results
[19:00] <Euphoria42> Did you select that keymap when you installed?
[19:01] <Horseface> yes. Ir worked perfectly for month. I just started the computer and it|s english now
[19:01] <Euphoria42> Ah, i see.
[19:01] <Euphoria42> Im looking into this, give me a second
[19:02] <Horseface> loadkeys de-latin1 gives the following output
[19:02] <Horseface> Loading de-latin1
[19:02] <Horseface> /usr/bin/ckbcomp: Can not find file "symbols/de-latin1" in any known directory
[19:03] <mircx1> TJ i dont know how i check this what commands for it in Terminal?
[19:03] <TJ-> mircx1: you've already been asked - what is it you are actually doing?
[19:05] <Euphoria42> Horseface, can you change the keymap by going into settings and then Text Entry? http://i.imgur.com/DTAESsO.jpg
[19:06] <Horseface> i|m using gnome3 and ubuntu 14.04... i|ll try to find it
[19:07] <Euphoria42> Oh, im sorry. That may be a Unity specific thing. Let me know but ill keep looking.
[19:08] <mircx1> TJ- i run something from ubuntu 14 this janus anyway in oter system is run ok but my question how i fix the error?
[19:08] <mircx1> is have maybe commands for this or i need install something?
[19:09] <Horseface> there is a keyboard layout switch in the bar, but i can|t change it there either.
[19:09] <TJ-> mircx1: We have no idea what 'something' is, and it doesn't look like you're trying to use an Ubuntu package. You'll probably be better asking the organisation that supplies the software you're trying to use
[19:09] <blackrat> hello all
[19:09] <blackrat> someone here is alive?
[19:10] <Euphoria42> Horseface, Does it look like this? http://i.stack.imgur.com/81nDH.png
[19:10] <mircx1> TJ- i give to you the error
[19:10] <Horseface> zup
[19:10] <Horseface> yup
[19:10] <Euphoria42> alright
[19:11] <mircx1> if you dont know what problem in here then why you say i need go to package
[19:11] <TJ-> mircx1: you're compiling some non-Ubuntu software we have no idea what it is, that isn't an Ubuntu support issue
[19:11] <OerHeks> mircx1, providing just that error is not enough
[19:11] <Horseface> no wait. The specific entry for Text entry settings is missing in this menu
[19:11] <Euphoria42> Horseface, is their an option to change it if you pick Text Entry Settings?
[19:11] <OerHeks> !details | mircx1
[19:12] <ioria> maybe this https://github.com/danieldg/janus/blob/master/c-src/ssl-gnutls.c
[19:12] <mircx1> when i make configure
[19:12] <blackrat> I have a question... I got a laptop with wifi conection, and PC, but in my PC WIFI card is broken. I got a RJ45 cable and i think to connect laptop-PC and using internet on this way... but i don't have any idea how do this
[19:12] <mircx1> the janus irc  i get this
[19:12] <Horseface> @euphoria sry, it is still different. wait i|ll try to make a screenshot
[19:13] <Euphoria42> Alright
[19:14] <Sbur> daftykins :  I have not yet checked about new drivers, but, if I don't have needed drivers for my Wifi dongle, what is the first thing to do?
[19:14] <TJ-> mircx1: ioria You need to read the manuals for mircx, and ask the developers of that package: see http://mircx.forumotion.net/t326-guide-install-janus-irc
[19:15] <Euphoria42> blackrat, try looking up Connection Bridging your probably find stuff there
[19:16] <mircx1> TJ- this not what i find anyway thanks about your help
[19:18] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 weird... suddenly i can|t take screenshots
[19:19] <Euphoria42> Horseface, I think i've found it. in gnome settings. http://i.imgur.com/Jewkgav.png
[19:19] <Euphoria42> and then click the little plus button under Input Sources
[19:20] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 exactly thanks what next?
[19:21] <ThinThread> which ubuntu should i dev (c++11) on for best binary distribution properties?
[19:22] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 i|ll have to reboot. Thx.
[19:22] <Euphoria42> Horseface, oh did that fix it?
[19:23] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 Idk there are 2 menues, one for the Device and one for Language and Keyboard-format
[19:24] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 i can|t find my region to pick. So i thought i just restart
[19:26] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 i'll try restart if it doesn't help i'll be back
[19:27] <Euphoria42> Horseface, hold on im getting a screenshot set together
[19:27] <Euphoria42> lets try that first
[19:31] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 Ok reboot brought no results
[19:32] <Euphoria42> Horseface, you should be able to change your keyboard format by following this: http://imgur.com/a/Pimsf
[19:33] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 right. Thanks
[19:33] <user__> привет)
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !ru | user__
[19:41] <Euphoria42> Why do none of the Ubuntu sites mention linux at all anymore? ;_;
[19:42] <plytro> I don't know... I see it http://www.ubuntu.com/search?q=linux
[19:42] <Euphoria42> plytro, those are articles on kernel vulnerabilities.
[19:42] <daftykins> !ot | Euphoria42
[19:45] <hellohentai> anyone up
[19:45] <plytro> its 145 in the afternoon
[19:45] <plytro> of course i'm up
[19:45] <hellohentai> wonderful
[19:45] <hellohentai> could you  give me some help
[19:46] <Euphoria42> hellohentai, Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[19:46] <hellohentai> well
[19:46] <hellohentai> i have a live usb for ubuntu 15.04
[19:46] <hellohentai> and i just built a new pc, trying to get ubuntu as primary os
[19:47] <hellohentai> but whenever i attempt to boot from the usb drive
[19:47] <daftykins> ...it gives you free ice cream? adopts a kitten?
[19:47] <hellohentai> i get stuck at the mobo logo screen, and i any buttons i press on the kb have no effec
[19:47] <daftykins> and it stalls there permanently?
[19:47] <hellohentai> and if i remove the usb the logo screen goes to the boot menu
[19:47] <daftykins> were you installing in EFI mode?
[19:48] <hellohentai> so i plug the usb back in(boot menu)
[19:48] <Euphoria42> Its possible that the USB key is screwed up
[19:48] <hellohentai> yup everything is gpt uefi
[19:48] <hellohentai> and no usb key is confirmed working
[19:48] <hellohentai> if i plug the usb back into the computer while in boot menu
[19:48] <hellohentai> i can select OS
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> hellohentai  don't hit the enter key so often, it's getting a headache
[19:48] <OerHeks> sounds some usb connector plugged in wrong, building a pc is easy
[19:48] <daftykins> ^ less enter key pressing please.
[19:48] <OerHeks> yeah, easy on the enter
[19:48] <hellohentai> right, my bad
[19:48] <tear> For all who are homosexuals or ADDICTED TO PORN or alcohol (so called drunkards) or are FULL OF LUST (e.g. furry-fetish) or hatred - hell is awaiting you!! - Repent and turn from your sins! - Get delivered by Jesus today! He can set you free! You can only find forgiveness of your sins through Jesus! - http://goo.gl/fJcyNy / http://goo.gl/ynvsVu / http://goo.gl/i2W3v3 / http://goo.gl/uHnOGP /
[19:48] <tear> http://goo.gl/hJHNmo - There is no forgiveness if you don't stop with your sin / turn/repent from your sins! Btw. Sex outside of marriage [between 1 man and 1 woman (I don't speak of divorce&remarriage because divorce&remarriage = adultery)] is called fornication and is a sin as well.
[19:48] <tear> For all who are homosexuals or ADDICTED TO PORN or alcohol (so called drunkards) or are FULL OF LUST (e.g. furry-fetish) or hatred - hell is awaiting you!! - Repent and turn from your sins! - Get delivered by Jesus today! He can set you free! You can only find forgiveness of your sins through Jesus! - http://goo.gl/fJcyNy / http://goo.gl/ynvsVu / http://goo.gl/i2W3v3 / http://goo.gl/uHnOGP /
[19:48] <tear> http://goo.gl/hJHNmo - There is no forgiveness if you don't stop with your sin / turn/repent from your sins! Btw. Sex outside of marriage [between 1 man and 1 woman (I don't speak of divorce&remarriage because divorce&remarriage = adultery)] is called fornication and is a sin as well.
[19:48] <tear> For all who are homosexuals or ADDICTED TO PORN or alcohol (so called drunkards) or are FULL OF LUST (e.g. furry-fetish) or hatred - hell is awaiting you!! - Repent and turn from your sins! - Get delivered by Jesus today! He can set you free! You can only find forgiveness of your sins through Jesus! - http://goo.gl/fJcyNy / http://goo.gl/ynvsVu / http://goo.gl/i2W3v3 / http://goo.gl/uHnOGP /
[19:48] <tear> http://goo.gl/hJHNmo - There is no forgiveness if you don't stop with your sin / turn/repent from your sins! Btw. Sex outside of marriage [between 1 man and 1 woman (I don't speak of divorce&remarriage because divorce&remarriage = adultery)] is called fornication and is a sin as well.
[19:48] <daftykins> are you typing from a live session?
[19:49] <Guest93072> how to install linux kali?
[19:49] <daftykins> Guest93072: Kali is not supported here.
[19:49] <daftykins> !kali
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest93072  not supported here
[19:49] <Euphoria42> Can someone please mute him
[19:49] <daftykins> what, twice?
[19:49] <Euphoria42> tear, thats not supported here
[19:49] <daftykins> Euphoria42: just ignore it.
[19:49] <Guest93072> good
[19:49] <hellohentai> i can select os, but if i try to do anything(i.e., run from drive, write onto disk, etc) it doesnt work
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Euphoria42  wait until it's over
[19:49] <teward> !ops | tear is a spambot
[19:50] <teward> confirmed by dual striking in other channels as well
[19:50] <daftykins> hellohentai: which OS did you make up the flash drive from?
[19:50] <hellohentai> my monitor just shows as no signal and i am stuck in the loop
[19:50] <hellohentai> i made the drive in windows 7 home premium
[19:50] <Pici> teward: and? the bot already took care of it.
[19:50] <daftykins> hellohentai: with which program?
[19:50] <hellohentai> I amade it with rufus
[19:51] <teward> Pici: it took it and +q'd it - won't help long term.  thank you TonyBareta
[19:51] <teward> erm
[19:51] <teward> tonyyarusso:
[19:51]  * teward kicks tabcomplete
[19:51] <teward> unless you're suggesting Drone wouldn't -q it, Pici
[19:51] <daftykins> hellohentai: go back to your windows system and confirm the ISO was a good download by hashing it against the hashes available online
[19:51] <hellohentai> I've done that already
[19:52] <hellohentai> they are valid
[19:52] <daftykins> hellohentai: ok now run 'cmd' as admin, run diskpart then select your flash drive and run 'clean' on it.
[19:52] <daftykins> after this, remake your flash drive.
[19:52] <hellohentai> thanks, will be back soon.
[20:02] <dgarstang> Has ubuntu got .profile.d ?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> dgarstang  /etc/profile.d/
[20:04] <dgarstang> MonkeyDust: I was hoping for ~/.profile.d as well
[20:05] <bprompt> dgarstang:    I think is ~/.profile
[20:06] <dgarstang> bprompt: I know, but I wanted to append to .profile's functionality without having to maintain the file, hence multiple scripts in ~/.profile.d
[20:06] <Jamie_1> daftykins: do you think you can finish helping me figure out what is going on with my computer from yesterday?
[20:07] <daftykins> how far did we get?
[20:07] <daftykins> i slept since then... ;)
[20:07] <Jamie_1> daftykins: not really anywhere other than my hardware specs
[20:07] <TJ-> dgarstang: create the directory yourself, then use something like "run-parts" to execute scripts in the directory
[20:08] <daftykins> Jamie_1: oh the gnome3 black box thingy?
[20:09] <daftykins> hrmm what did i say last, i remember making a suggestion but then you said you had a meeting so couldn't mess with it...
[20:09] <daftykins> Jamie_1: give me a pastebin of your CPU model from /proc/cpuinfo
[20:09] <nixnine> have elementary installed.  aplay-l says no soundcard.  Any suggestions?  Just installed the os so wonder if I am missing a driver or something.
[20:10] <bekks> !elementaryos | nixnine
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> nixnine  elementary is not supported here
[20:10] <bekks> !elementary | nixnine
[20:11] <dgarstang> TJ-: I see. Maybe... but then I'd have to modify .profile still, which I wanted to avoid
[20:11] <quiscalus> howdy folks I am not a smart man that needs help
[20:11] <gabriel_> Hello All. After installing ubuntu 15.04 I keep getting freezing windows when minimizing any window, like firefox or even the terminal for that matter, help please...
[20:12] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8841127
[20:12] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[20:12] <mahdi_ja> tonight i install last ubuntu kernel update and after restart system my wine not work
[20:13] <mahdi_ja> my wine version is 1.7.44
[20:13] <Jamie_1> daftykins: do you think swapping to a newer kernal version might help?
[20:13] <Jamie_1> i already tried swapping dm
[20:13] <mahdi_ja> and my kernel version is 3.13.0-59-generic
[20:14] <TJ-> dgarstang: you could simply modify the skeleton in /etc/skel/.profile which is used when new user accounts are added
[20:14] <dgarstang> TJ-: I know, but I'm using chef. That means I have to put the .profile into chef and git, and well, i dunno... i guess
[20:14] <TJ-> mahdi_ja: known issue, I saw it being traced and fixed yesterday. I think a bug-fix kernel will be in -proposed and released quickly
[20:15] <mahdi_ja> TJ-, thank you
[20:16] <Jamie_1> daftykins: actually im sorry... can i post pone this for like half and hour... forgot i have a meeting in five minutes... sorry about that
[20:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: mmm yeah so sandybridge i7. are you 100% sure you've installed the correct meta package that pulls in everything needed for a gnome3 desktop?
[20:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: well go work on that, i'm gonna have some life to attend to this evening :) 9pm here
[20:16] <dgarstang> life? what's that?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !life | dgarstang
[20:17] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i did the full gnome installation from the net install... but it worked decently untill i swapped to a differnt kernal... but brb in a little
[20:17] <quiscalus> I am a dunce that needs help but it appears lots of other n00bs need help too
[20:17] <dgarstang> ubottu: :-\
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> quiscalus: fire away your question anyways mate
[20:17] <xangua> quiscalus: please don't call names
[20:20] <quiscalus> I got ubuntu mate 64bit for intel based hardware, checked the md5 sum to make sure all was well, made a usb with UUI, restart boot from USB live USB is a bit slow but everything appears functional, install all is well until installing grub 2 and I get a fatal error
[20:20] <quiscalus> I think the error was "grub-install /dev/sda" but I am unaware how to check error reports on this
[20:21] <quiscalus> once again I am very ignorant about the use of this distro and linux and general
[20:22] <quiscalus> also sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone with such language
[20:24] <Aleksandar86> i have database folder on DESKTOP and I need good tools for backup to HDD2
[20:24] <Aleksandar86> i wanna setup backup any day in 00:00
[20:25] <Aleksandar86> copy database folder to HDD2
[20:25] <Aleksandar86> name must be date of backup
[20:25] <Aleksandar86> or somthing similar
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Aleksandar86  better ask in in #bash
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> maybe some people here know tool for backup
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> Aleksandar86  or do you want a GUI?
[20:28] <Aleksandar86> yes
[20:28] <Aleksandar86> or i can use script and shedule under Ubuntu
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Aleksandar86  yes, #bash can help you with scripting
[20:29] <diddledan> Aleksandar86: you want crontab
[20:29] <diddledan> Aleksandar86: or /etc/cron.daily
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> diddledan  yes, but he still needs a script to set the date as filename
[20:29] <gabriel_> Hello All. After installing ubuntu 15.04 I keep getting freezing windows when minimizing any window, like firefox or even the terminal for that matter, help please...
[20:29] <diddledan> MonkeyDust: `date`
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> diddledan  tell him, not me
[20:33] <mustmodify> On my dev machine, before installing the package, `ag` gave me two options... phython-ase and silversearcher-ag. On my client's server, I only get python-ase. Is it likely this is because they are running two different versions of ubuntu?
[20:35] <leeyaa> hello
[20:36] <EriC^^> hello
[20:36] <leeyaa> any idea why would kswapd0 use 100% cpu. machine isnt swapped
[20:36] <bomberman> Hi)
[20:37] <mustmodify> hello
[20:37] <mustmodify> apparently I was impolite. :P
[20:41] <biscuitking> chrome is maxing out my cpu - help!
[20:42] <humphrey2> How come you can still `ls` a directory even if its permissions are `r--` (no x permission)?
[20:42] <bekks> biscuitking: So close the tabs which content that maxes out your CPU.
[20:42] <EriC^^> humphrey2: x is just to cd
[20:43] <biscuitking> what is this compiz
[20:43] <biscuitking> ive justreverted to default
[20:44] <biscuitking> just a minute ago
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> !info indicator-cpufreq | biscuitking this helps me
[20:44] <biscuitking> let me try
[20:44] <biscuitking> thanks
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  it lets you choose between 4 cpu modes, it changes immediately
[20:45] <biscuitking> hmm, what am i supposed to type in terminal
[20:45] <biscuitking> indicator-cpufreq  ?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  apt install indicator-cpufreq
[20:47] <biscuitking> this compiz is a hog
[20:47] <xangua> (15:41:07) biscuitking: chrome is maxing out my cpu - help! - close tabs, avoid flash, close chrome¿ you don't really give any if no details
[20:47] <biscuitking> xangua, I've just reverted back to default chrome. cpu is better
[20:48] <bekks> biscuitking: What was "not default" on your Chrome?
[20:48] <biscuitking> a whole bunch of stuff.... i installed several extensions
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> frankenchrome, so to say?
[20:48] <biscuitking> ?
[20:49] <biscuitking> frankenchrome?
[20:50] <xangua> frankenstain
[20:50] <humphrey2> EriC^^: Ah. x permission is just to access the files within the directory.
[20:52] <biscuitking> http://askubuntu.com/questions/127240/missing-launcher-after-12-04-upgrade/127310#127310
[20:53] <biscuitking> that might be the solution for compiz. remove the compiz folder and reset
[20:53] <xangua> not really
[20:53] <biscuitking> no?
[20:53] <xangua> deteling compiz cinfiguration won't make it magically use half resources it uses
[20:53] <humphrey2> What is the point of having --x permissions on a directory?
[20:54] <zykotick9> humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "enter" the directory.
[20:54] <biscuitking> my cpu is constantly jumping from 5% to 40% due to compiz
[20:55] <xcyclist> I apologize for missing.
[20:55] <biscuitking> is seemed to have worked for the user in the link i posted. is there an alternative you can suggest. why is this thing such a resource hog?
[20:55] <biscuitking> is/it*
[20:55] <humphrey2> zykotick9: Thanks.
[20:56] <humphrey2> Is there any point to -w- permissions on a directory?
[20:56] <biscuitking> maybe unity --reset?
[20:56] <diddledan> humphrey2: man chmod
[20:56] <zykotick9> humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "write" to/in the directory.
[20:57] <biscuitking> xangua, ?
[20:57] <biscuitking> ^^
[20:57] <FourFire> Greetings
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  you can always try something different from unity
[20:57] <zykotick9> biscuitking: compiz uses a lot of resources... end of story.  you could use another DE/WM for something lighter.
[20:57] <FourFire> can I install Kernel 4.0.9 on my Ubuntu 15.04 without concern for everything breaking spectacularly?
[20:58] <tophs>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER tophs koptvzsujegu
[20:58] <FourFire> #ubuntu-kernel is distressingly idel
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> tophs  change your password!
[20:58] <FourFire> tophs, your pass is compromised
[20:58] <biscuitking> can you please recommend something else?
[20:58] <tophs> bummer.
[20:58] <FourFire> change it now
[20:58] <tophs> good thing i never use it. lol.
[20:58] <biscuitking> can you please recommend something else? MonkeyDust
[20:59] <xangua> FourFire: you can, but you will  probably get a not supported package
[20:59] <xangua> !mainline
[20:59] <FourFire> tophs, for future, always use the (freenode) "channel" for logging in
[20:59] <biscuitking> what is DE WM zykotick9 ?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[20:59] <FourFire> xangua, I don't know what that means, can you give an example of what would happen from a user perspective
[20:59] <zykotick9> biscuitking: sorry DE = Desktop Environment (Gnome/KDE/Unity/etc) and WM = Window Manager (fluxbox/openbox/awesome/etc)
[21:00] <biscuitking> if i use something else am i likely to break other apps? I like the gnome desktop
[21:00] <xangua> FourFire: not supported means you are on your own
[21:00] <xangua> !mainline
[21:01] <humphrey2> zykotick9: It doesn't as far as I can try...
[21:01] <FourFire> The last kernel which isn't an RC or unstable is 4.0.9-wily
[21:01] <FourFire> that's the one I'm asking about
[21:01] <zykotick9> humphrey2: sorry, i don't grok your statement
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  there's alos #ubuntu-kernel
[21:03] <FourFire> MonkeyDust, distressingly inactive
[21:03] <FourFire> like i siad
[21:03] <genii> FourFire: If you're running 15.10/Wily they might know more about it in #ubuntu+1
[21:05] <humphrey2> zykotick9: How am I supposed to write to a directory with permissions -w-?
[21:06] <zykotick9> humphrey2: you'd probably need read as well...  in the "
[21:06] <aktx> Throw the rules out the window, odds are you'll go that way too.
[21:07] <zykotick9> humphrey2: sorry, in the "old days" i used wx for an upload directory, so people could upload to it, but not see what was there.
[21:09] <zykotick9> humphrey2: as a test, i created a directory with wx and could copy files into it... but could "ls" in the directory.  What are you trying to do?
[21:09] <zykotick9> s/could/couldn't/
[21:10] <checo> 11
[21:10] <zykotick9> humphrey2: without x directories are pretty useless!
[21:11] <humphrey2> zykotick9: You said you could upload files to a -w- directory
[21:11] <humphrey2> You were wrong
[21:11] <humphrey2> You need the x
[21:11] <diddledan> zykotick9: humphrey2: without x you can still write to the directory as long as you don't try to "change" into that directory first
[21:12] <zykotick9> diddledan: i couldn't with wx... i just tried.
[21:12] <diddledan> e.g. echo foo > /some/w-only-dir/test
[21:12] <humphrey2> diddledan: I think that's wrong
[21:13] <humphrey2> diddledan: But I'll try it :)
[21:13] <zykotick9> humphrey2: i agree.  i get permission denied diddledan
[21:13] <humphrey2> zykotick9: Yup, me too.
[21:14] <zykotick9> humphrey2: "you where wrong" <- no i said with xw, just no read - for my old ftp setup, same here with my testing
[21:16] <humphrey2> [16:56] <humphrey2> Is there any point to -w- permissions on a directory? [16:56] <zykotick9> humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "write" to/in the directory.
[21:16] <humphrey2> zykotick9: ^^^
[21:17] <zykotick9> humphrey2: w does give write permission.  "...sorry, in the "old days" i used wx for an upload directory"
[21:17] <yourmommy> any guide to install oracle xe on ubuntu
 humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "write" to/in the directory. <--- Not without the x permission
[21:20] <bobby_> Does anyone either have or know of anyone having real world experience with Ubuntu (any version or flavor) on an NVME drive such as the Intel 750 series?
[21:20] <tgm4883> humphrey2: true, but the x permission doesn't allow writing, it allows access
[21:21] <bubbasaures> bobby_, Exact experience does not matter, address the issue for help
[21:22] <bubbasaures> the channel is full of IT pros most if the time
[21:22] <bobby_> bubbasaures, what do you mean by that?
[21:22] <bubbasaures> !ask
[21:22] <bubbasaures> !details
[21:22] <bubbasaures> bobby_, ^^^^^
[21:23] <bubbasaures> bobby_, phishing the channel as you were will not get you results generally, addressing the actual issue will, is the point. ;)
[21:23] <bobby_> I was just wondering if I could use it as a boot drive instead of a more traditional (and slower) SATA drive
[21:23] <kjs> is it not possible to partition a system using kickstart ?
[21:24] <tgm4883> bobby_: I suppose that would depend on how the BIOS/UEFI sees the drive
[21:26] <bobby_> tgm4883, so what your'e saying is that if the motherboard supports it, it'll work theoretically or do you know from experience?
[21:26] <tgm4883> bobby_: if the BIOS/UEFI sees it as a drive, and presents it to the OS as a drive, why wouldn't you be able to use it as a boot device?
[21:27] <k1l_> bobby_: 99,9% all ssds work as traditional hdds, just much faster.
[21:27] <tgm4883> k1l_: the question is the interface, not that it's an SSD
[21:27] <bobby_> tgm4883, I know that the Linux kernel has supported it since 3.1 but I don't know if it matters if Ubuntu has blessed it
[21:28] <tgm4883> bobby_: you could always just try it ;)
[21:29] <tgm4883> bobby_: it's been about 10 minutes since you asked, you could be 2/3 though an install by now :)
[21:29] <theseb> possible to edit itunes account on ubuntu w/o using the Wine buggy monstrosity?
[21:29] <bobby_> tgm4883, I guess that would be the route I go, but those drives are so much more expensive that I don't know if I could justify that experience on my current salary
[21:29] <tgm4883> theseb: yes, you have to use a VM and windows though
[21:30] <tgm4883> bobby_: fair enough, are they that much faster than a SATA 6 SSD?
[21:30] <theseb> tgm4883: thanks...and ug..that means BUYING winders....*sigh*
[21:31] <tgm4883> theseb: you could always move away from itunes
[21:31] <theseb> tgm4883:call me crazy but how hard could it be for apple to make a web interface to itunes?
[21:31] <bobby_> tgm4883, they are theoretically 32Gb/s, so yeah they are insanely fast
[21:31] <theseb> tgm4883:to honest i'm a newb to an IPod....yes . i know i'm a dad whose probably the last person to get an iPod.....
[21:31] <tgm4883> theseb: really hard. If they made a web interface to it, then it would be less walled gardeny
[21:32] <theseb> tgm4883: please tell me this...possible to just mount my ipod in ubuntu and move files that way?
[21:32] <theseb> tgm4883:then i'd never need itunes
[21:32] <theseb> tgm4883:that would rule
[21:32] <tgm4883> theseb: I don't know. I know you could do it at one point, but updates to IOS would keep breaking it, so it was always a cat and mouse game
[21:32] <tgm4883> theseb: which ipod
[21:33] <theseb> tgm4883: it is an old thin one
[21:33] <theseb> tgm4883:i think nano
[21:34] <theseb> tgm4883: i think nano 4th gen since it looks like this... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415-rVCMO3L._SY300_.jpg
[21:35] <tgm4883> theseb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:35] <tgm4883> theseb: note that while that says iPhone, the article seems to be about all ios devices
[21:37] <theseb> tgm4883:thanks
[21:40] <aktx> for ubuntu 14.04
[21:40] <aktx> what should be in my .vnc/xstartup
[21:40] <aktx> to have the standard desktop ui?
[21:40] <aktx> i tried "startx &" and that completely borked it :(
[21:41] <bubbasaures> aktx, startx for the desktop has not been used for awhile.
[21:41] <theseb> tgm4883:holy hell...i think you nailed it..rhythmbox seems to work with ipod nanos!
[21:41] <theseb> tgm4883:you rock
[21:41] <tgm4883> theseb: yw, glad it's working fo ryou
[21:44] <bubbasaures> aktx, Not sure in that scenario but from a tty on an install it would be sudo service lightdm start if it is lightdm
[21:47] <marxS> I shrunk my C drive in Windows and left 30GB unallocated space to install ubuntu but when i try in installer it says "unusable"
[21:53] <bubbasaures> marxS, Can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l run in the ubuntu terminal
[21:53] <bubbasaures> !=he gone
[21:56] <andrewjs18> what's everyone using for automatic mysql backups?
[21:57] <SchrodingersScat> !info mysqldump | andrewjs18
[21:58] <tgm4883> heh
[21:58] <andrewjs18> lol
[22:00] <SchrodingersScat> andrewjs18: comes with mysql-client
[22:00] <andrewjs18> does it do automatic daily/weekly/monthly backups?
[22:00] <andrewjs18> right now I'm using automysqlbackup, but it's old
[22:03] <SchrodingersScat> andrewjs18: no, I guess the automatic portion is to throw it in your backup script. I duplicity my data then dump mysql to a file in a directory, duplicity that directory.
[22:16] <Guest24914> HELP please. i am having problems booting into 15.04. I am using boot-repair and I receive a message to enable a repo containing grub-efi-amd64-signed on sda6 (the part with Linux) how do I do this?
[22:16] <Guest24914> I am running a live CD
[22:18] <Guest24914> #boot-repair
[22:21] <kubuntu_> Sorry, I'm back with the boot repair question
[22:26] <kubuntu_> No one?
[22:28] <meatie> kubuntu_, ask away
[22:28] <Bashing-om> kubuntu_: Wait, UEFI is over most of our experience. There are those that frequent this channel who do know .
[22:29] <kubuntu_> The Boot-Repair is asking me to enable a repo on sda6 (linux partition), how do I do this?
[22:30] <wileee> kubuntu_, not sure we would want to do that without some context, like why are you using the app?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> kubuntu_: Pastebin the advisory, in the context it is given . I do not recognize such an advisory .
[22:32] <kubuntu_> When attempting to boot my dual boot system, it dropped out the grub_rescue. I made a live USB of 15.04 and tried to fix any issue. Boot-repair ran for about 10 minutes, then simply popped up that message
[22:32] <kubuntu_> My 15.04 had been plugging away just fine. I had booted into WIndows 8, then tried back into 15.04, then this happened
[22:32] <wileee> kubuntu_, Can you just run the bootinfo summary alone, the click is on the first gui?
[22:33] <wileee> kubuntu_, Are you rebooting windows or using it's hybrid fast boot/sleep
[22:34] <kubuntu_> Running that now
[22:35] <kubuntu_> wileee: here is the asummary http://paste.ubuntu.com/11969867/
[22:35] <wileee> kubuntu_, If you are using the fastboot it will cause huge problems, is why I asked, generally it is windows not booting, just covering the bases.
[22:36] <kubuntu_> wileee: I did a shutdown on windows, then restarted my sytem
[22:36] <wileee> cool
[22:36] <FuxY> Hey guys, i need help fixing the GRUB after various tries
[22:36] <EriC^^> FuxY: what's the problem?
[22:37] <FuxY> EriC^^: I was running Ubuntu 15.04 with Win7 64 bit, but while i was upgrading win7 to win10 , grub broke
[22:37] <EriC^^> ok, do you have a live usb?
[22:38] <nicomachus> hi, just a quick question: I need to update my BIOS, and the package is an .exe file. Do I need to boot into Windows to execute it or can I do it from Ubuntu? Link to the bios update here: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=CXRD8
[22:38] <FuxY> while upgrading windows, it had to restarted, when it turn on something along : Grub-rescue > appeared
[22:38] <wileee> kubuntu_, I see burg in there, not a good idea to use, you have alegacy boot with grub in the mbr and a uefi windows, not sure, but I would get help not use the bootrepair here.
[22:38] <FuxY> EriC^^: im typing this from live cd
[22:38] <EriC^^> FuxY: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:39] <FuxY> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ok7l
[22:39] <edilson> hello
[22:39] <funkyHat> nicomachus: if the only format they supply it in is a .exe then yes you should do it from Windows. Even if the exe might run OK in wine I wouldn't trust it to get something as low level as a BIOS reflash right.
[22:40] <EriC^^> FuxY: ubuntu is gone
[22:40] <wileee> kubuntu_, So at some point this all worked, looks like a messy install is all.
[22:40] <nicomachus> gotcha. Thanks funkyHat. I'll have to restore the Windows 7 partition to a working state then. Thanks again.
[22:40] <kubuntu_> wileee: this had worked fine for, years? until now
[22:40] <FuxY> EriC^^: wait, it formatted ubuntu's partitions?
[22:40] <EriC^^> FuxY: yeah
[22:40] <kubuntu_> wileee: is there a way to reinstall Kubuntu without wiping my data?
[22:40] <EriC^^> FuxY: did you have important stuff there?
[22:41] <kubuntu_> wileee: No one on Kubuntu channel
[22:41] <funkyHat> nicomachus: often you'll find another format is available too, like a CD you can burn. All depends on the manufacturer (and maybe even model) though...
[22:41] <wileee> kubuntu_, Ah, well that is good news, excellent help here, I would use it rather than the tool. Reinstall I doubt, anything is fixable theoretically.
[22:41] <FuxY> EriC^^: i copied some important stuff from windows to ubuntu (both in the same hard drive, that was dumb) as a backup
[22:42] <edilson> hello speaking spanish?
[22:42] <nicomachus> funkyHat: I won't put it past Dell to release the least amount possible, aka exe only. They won't even support any OS past w7 on this mobo, which is only 3 years old. :/ But that's off-topic here so I'll keep my grumblings elsewhere.
[22:42] <FuxY> EriC^^: how can i now resume win 10 setup? It always boots into grub
[22:42] <kubuntu_> wileee: If I understand correctly, try a re-install?
[22:42] <wileee> !es
[22:42] <wileee> edilson, ^^^^ there
[22:42] <kubuntu_> wileee: Also, I should back up my home dir to me safe
[22:42] <EriC^^> FuxY: you can try getting the stuff back using testdisk ( sudo apt-get install testdisk )
[22:43] <EriC^^> FuxY: you need to /join ##windows and ask about that, i think it should write the mbr
[22:43] <wileee> kubuntu_, No, I would calm down and get good help, you have to be careful here. I can assume you have no backups for any possible scenario?
[22:44] <FuxY> EriC^^: i don't think i can use the win7 cd to fix my mbr, since it's in the middle of a win10 setup, no idea what to do
[22:45] <wileee> kubuntu_, Just earlier myself my main SSD froze up, 3 OS's, however I have images of all them and backups, had I not fixed this, I would just load the image to a new HD.
[22:45] <EriC^^> FuxY: if the files are important then first try to recover them you can probably get your whole installation back if you wanted, then continue the win10 setup or ask in ##windows about it
[22:46] <FuxY> EriC^^: what's the command to join #windows ? im not familiar with irc
[22:46] <wileee> FuxY, /j ##windows
[22:47] <kubuntu_> wileee: I can make a backup of my home dir for sure
[22:47] <wileee> kubuntu_, I would just to be safe, this should be fixable.
[22:47] <kubuntu_> wileee: I would like to keep the windoze, myunderstanding is I can reinstall Kubuntu on the same partition without formatting it to recover?
[22:48] <wileee> kubuntu_, Not sure I always fresh install, or reload a clone, I think so though, however this may not necessarily fix it is all.
[22:48] <kubuntu_> wileee: gotcha
[22:52] <sambrag77> hello
[22:52] <EriC^^> hello
[22:53] <LonelyDanbo> any reason to get Ubuntu 14.04 over 15.04 for the purposes of making sure Wine runs as well as Linux native Steam?
[22:53] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, 5 years support?
[22:54] <LonelyDanbo> I don't understand 5 year support. Don't you just update to another version?
[22:55] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, 14.04 a longterm-5 years 15.04=9months
[22:55] <LonelyDanbo> I had 5 year support for Xubuntu and I ended up breaking my Wine games and Steam won't run at all, so what good is it?
[22:56] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, You are far from an experienced user I have watched your issues. That experience is what is good. ;)
[22:56] <LonelyDanbo> Also at least in Xubuntu, it had a very old version of Wine. Every time I would ask for help people would tell me what an ancient version I had.
[22:56] <wileee> and the support if you can follow and do it
[22:57] <wileee> Can you generalize more "everybody"
[22:58] <LonelyDanbo> so it's not like the 15.04 will have more bugs. it's just not supported past a certain date.
[22:59] <LonelyDanbo> I wonder if there's any more problems switching from 15.04 to 15.10 once it expires, compared to updating within 14.04 and everything breaking.
[23:00] <LonelyDanbo> or... not everything, just something important.
[23:06] <awktion> eh
[23:06] <awktion> who's having trouble right now, i don't feel like doing the work i'm payed for
[23:09] <wileee> awktion, this is free volunteer help, are you kidding?
[23:10] <awktion> wileee: quite serious
[23:10] <awktion> i'm a sysadmin for a datacenter atm, and i dont have anything to do
[23:10] <awktion> figured i'd scare up something here
[23:12] <wileee> awktion, Heh, I miss read that my bad, help away. ;)
[23:14] <awktion> wileee: i planned to.... :P
[23:14] <awktion> anyone wanna do something fun like setup varnishd or something?
[23:15] <awktion> (yes i'm really that bored, got 1h45m to go, and i doubt i'll have more than 20m of real work in that time)
[23:15] <wileee> We just wait for post here is all, most here are luking
[23:15] <wileee> lurking*
[23:15] <awktion> iknow
[23:15] <awktion> been here since 05
[23:16] <wileee> had my SSD freeze up today, guess the fix
[23:16] <awktion> ssd? what brand
[23:16] <awktion> and what size
[23:16] <wileee> cricial m4 ssd
[23:16] <wileee> 250 gigs
[23:16] <awktion> probably bad trim/GC
[23:16] <wileee> bingo
[23:16] <awktion> 250G won't have nand fully populated
[23:16] <awktion> :D
[23:16] <awktion> NEXT!
[23:17] <awktion> lol
[23:17] <wileee> !cookie | awktion
[23:17] <awktion> wileee: if you want the best performance from ssd i do have a cpl tips
[23:17] <awktion> 1. setup boundaries on the 4k lines, so they line up nicely, and 2. only partition 75%
[23:18] <awktion> the rest will go to the scratch area and increase your _average_ performance #s nicely
[23:18] <wileee> awktion, I'm set but thanks, I had a W8.1 updxate require a hard off is a;ll
[23:18] <awktion> see several anandtech reviews for some good data on the partitioning
[23:18] <awktion> wileee: aww
[23:18] <wileee> yeah that is amy basic setup, except 3 OS's
[23:18] <awktion> swt
[23:18] <meatie> awktion, what % perf. did you experience?
[23:19] <awktion> meatie: i don't get scientific with my own equipment, and my work is too lazy to measure like i would
[23:19] <awktion> but what i do notice is lag spikes
[23:19] <awktion> and i notice many fewer lag spikes due to i/o when it's setup that way
[23:19] <meatie> that's odd
[23:19] <awktion> that's specifically ssd not flash in general so doesn't apply to things like microsd cards
[23:20] <awktion> meatie: lets take a look
[23:20] <awktion> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9451/the-2tb-samsung-850-pro-evo-ssd-review/2
[23:20] <awktion> here's a very recent one, we are looking @ t2b samsung 850, but also look @ the others it's compared to
[23:21] <awktion> look @ 3rd chart down
[23:21] <awktion> see how it goes way low?
[23:21] <awktion> on the second pull down select the same drive
[23:21] <awktion> youll see it stays higce and high around 36k instead of dipping down below 10k
[23:22] <meatie> that is unfortunate...
[23:22] <meatie> :[
[23:22] <awktion> the 4th chart is even a bigger difference
[23:22] <meatie> i liked my 1TB fusion-io
[23:22] <awktion> let me toss a composit up
[23:22] <meatie> what does that 2TB one cost?
[23:22] <awktion> fusion-io's turned out to be disappointing in production @ CDN i worked out
[23:23] <meatie> yeah i got it years ago...
[23:23] <meatie> bastard was $10k
[23:23] <awktion> ~800 atm
[23:23] <meatie> dumb bosses, but i was happy.
[23:23] <awktion> maybe 1k
[23:23] <awktion> yeah i bet you were ;)
[23:23] <meatie> thats very cheap.
[23:23] <awktion> yeah love the new prices
[23:23] <awktion> still got a ways to go, but it'll get there
[23:23] <meatie> i just bought several 250gb 850 EVO's
[23:27] <nicomachus> !ot | awktion meatie
[23:27] <awktion> http://i.imgur.com/rRPBAof.png
[23:27] <awktion> nicomachus: relax bro, wait till there are actual questions b4 you go being a richard
[23:28] <meatie> we were talking about tweaking mysql for ubuntu, and drives.
[23:28] <awktion> drive consistency is everything for db's
[23:28] <awktion> not that it doesn't matter elsewhere as well..
[23:29] <meatie> i will refrain from mentioning anything outside of the ubuntu realm.
[23:30] <joujou> Hi guys. I'm installing kubuntu 14.04 on a pc but during the installation I dont see the option to encrypt my home directory, how comes?
[23:31] <joujou> That also if I try the manual installation
[23:32] <wileee> joujou, I think it asks you in the manual upon choosing to do the setup install.
[23:32] <meatie> you can do it easily post-install. although you are right, it should be in the setup.
[23:34] <joujou> wilee, I'm trying the manual way but there is no encrypt option, strange as it may sound
[23:34] <joujou> I only can choose the partitions, mounting points etc
[23:34] <wileee> joujou, I believe after you set up your install and then click go it asks you then.
[23:35] <joujou> wileee, thanks, I'll try =)
[23:35] <meatie> can just deal with ecryptfs-* if thats what i remember
[23:36] <wileee> joujou, No problem, I don't encrypt anything but a password file.
[23:36] <easyOnMe> my laptop always gives me a message failed to download required packages I do not know what is the problem here
[23:37] <wileee> easyOnMe, Show us the proof in a pastebin
[23:37] <meatie> after apt-get update ?
[23:38] <wileee> easyOnMe, handful of reasons is all, some context helps.
[23:38] <awktion> oops sorry got busy
[23:38] <easyOnMe> earlier there was this info that says there is an update available so I tried clicking on it and it asked for my password after I key in my password it tried to download then after waiting for the download it replied with failed to download packages
[23:39] <awktion> wileee: rock it bra u2 meatie
[23:39]  * awktion poofs for a bit
[23:39] <wileee> easyOnMe, pastebin a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:40] <easyOnMe> wileee: http://pastebin.com/wKF1bPkh
[23:41] <easyOnMe> wileee: http://apaste.info/RAg
[23:42] <wileee> easyOnMe, I see a hash error on a kernel download, any errors in the update not showing?
[23:42] <easyOnMe> wileee: http://apaste.info/RAg
[23:44] <wileee> easyOnMe, actually not a kernel, I would just change repos as a start and see if the hash error disappears.  E: Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/ghostscript/libgs9_9.10~dfsg-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:44] <meatie> you can do --fix-missing
[23:44] <meatie> or..
[23:44] <meatie> you can select a better mirror.
[23:45] <wileee> easyOnMe, I'm getting that same package update right now, hold on
[23:46] <easyOnMe> wileee: I manage to solve it
[23:46] <wileee> easyOnMe, Good job. ;)
[23:47] <wileee> installed here fine as well
[23:47] <easyOnMe> I did sudo apt-get update --fix-missing then to sudo apt-get upgrade then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:47] <G0> Eh ?
[23:47] <easyOnMe> so far all went well
[23:48] <daftykins> there's no point doing upgrade *AND* dist-upgrade
[23:48] <daftykins> just do dist-upgrade.
[23:48] <tux_> My webcam shows up in cheese but wont show up in propritiery flash plugin
[23:48] <tux_> any idea?
[23:48] <overflyer-main> evening guys.... linux user with medium experience here. can anyone held me concerning wireless connection via console? wpa_suuplicant and interfaces are configured. ifup -v wlan0 was completely successful. LAN works right away and automatic startup is also ok which i can especially recognize because im able to ssh to my server now. however i get no internet connectivitiy...ping and apt-get wont work. iconfig t
[23:48] <overflyer-main> ells me wlan0 is fine and got IP and everything. the only error i noticed while logging in after a reboot now is [ 54.565837] ieee802.11 phy0: invalid picp cck rate (0)
[23:49] <easyOnMe> wileee: do you know how to do bash scripting
[23:49] <wileee> easyOnMe, If you use the terminal you will see more info on updates/upgrades I find it easier myself, personal choice is all.
[23:49] <wileee> bash nothing but super simple, not really
[23:49] <wileee> tux_, "propritiery flash plugin"?
[23:50] <G0> How can I know if there are a BackDoor on Linux ?
[23:50] <wileee> !ot | gonyere
[23:50] <easyOnMe> wileee: I want to learn it but I do not want to mess up my ubuntu laptop due to the configuration, files and software stuff I already have and I spent time doing so
[23:50] <tux_> G0, you need to audit the entire source code of every distro.
[23:50] <G0> Thx
[23:51] <easyOnMe> so what is the best way to learn bash scripting: do I need another laptop with another linux OS where I can do my learning so as not to mess up my ubuntu linux in this current laptop
[23:51] <daftykins> easyOnMe: talk about it in the right channel would be #1 - so #bash
[23:51] <tux_> easyOnMe, You shouldn't mess anything up learning on your local machine.
[23:51] <easyOnMe> daftykins: ok
[23:51] <easyOnMe> thanks
[23:51] <wileee> easyOnMe, Noble goal, you will get your hands dirty learning though, I just make sure I have images of the OS and all backups so a image load is used if the fix is a longer time scale.
[23:52] <gry> easyOnMe: what one is not really a bash question .. and no you do not need new os for bash learning, learning in this one is ok
[23:52] <tux_> Flash plugin from Adobe.
[23:52] <tux_> Not open source
[23:52] <wileee> tux_, IN ubuntu?
[23:52] <gry> adobe stopped maintaining flash for linux tux_, better not use it
[23:53] <overflyer-main> nobody got any advice?
[23:53] <tux_> gry, Really? Thery just released an update
[23:53] <gry> weird
[23:53] <daftykins> they're doing security updates, but it's a moot point
[23:53] <squinty> security update
[23:53] <daftykins> she dead.
[23:53] <gry> maybe old updade and you just noticed?
[23:53] <gry> ah
[23:53] <wileee> tux_, this a flashplugin-install from ubuntu? adobe wont run
[23:53] <xangua> Security update, major ones stopped at 2010 tux_
[23:53] <tux_> daftykins, THAANK GOD FINALLY
[23:54] <tux_> What are we using as an alternativge these days?
[23:54] <daftykins> tux_: inappropriate language here.
[23:54] <meatie> flash gives stability to my life. i can count on it crashing several times a day.
[23:54] <meatie> comforting
[23:54] <daftykins> HTML5.
[23:54] <tux_> daftykins, Not as a developer HTML5 rules
[23:54] <tux_> if I need to access existing flash sites what is a recommended replacment to adobe flash plugin?
[23:55] <daftykins> you can use pepperflash with chromium or chrome
[23:55] <tux_> GTnash?
[23:55] <daftykins> there is no direct substitute that's worthy of mention
[23:55] <daftykins> flash is essentially dead in Firefox
[23:55] <tux_> pepperflash is google code though?
[23:55] <urkengurken> i have the right version of ubuntu and architecture but it my computer keeps giving me errors (hp envy m4 1015dx) like saying shit like "efi wont load" and then whenever i try to installl ubuntu it just makes a loud fan sound and huts down immediately i am using a rewritable disc to install it. windows 8 isnt on the computer anymore.
[23:55] <daftykins> (although pepperflash wrappers do exist)
[23:55] <tux_> Isn't that closed source too?
[23:55] <daftykins> i'll let your research answer those questions :)
[23:56] <daftykins> urkengurken: language, please.
[23:56] <B0g4r7_> Another day, another kernel update.  Another ~60MB download.
[23:56] <urkengurken> i apologize
[23:56] <G0> There are a way to call to a cell phone by the computer ? Using wireless board , for example
[23:56] <B0g4r7_> du -sh /boot -- 697MB
[23:57] <daftykins> B0g4r7_: you're right, how dare they apply fixes!
[23:58] <overflyer> evening guys!
[23:58] <urkengurken> anyone know whats up with it or?
[23:58] <urkengurken> evening overflyer :)
[23:58] <daftykins> urkengurken: see if your systems BIOS is the latest version, reset defaults, clear all keys, boot media again in EFI mode, zero the first 100MB of the disk with dd, then clean install.
[23:59] <easyOnMe> what is lxc
[23:59] <overflyer> im a linux user with medium experience here. can anyone held me concerning wireless connection via console? wpa_suuplicant and interfaces are configured. ifup -v wlan0 was completely successful. LAN works right away and automatic startup is also ok which i can especially recognize because im able to ssh to my server now. however i get no internet connectivitiy...ping and apt-get wont work. iconfig tells me wlan0 is
[23:59] <overflyer> fine and got IP and everything. the only error i noticed while logging in after a reboot now is [ 54.565837] ieee802.11 phy0: invalid picp cck rate (0) and the console keeps throwing stuff like ieee80211 phy0: channel change: <number> -> <number> failed (2)
[23:59] <G0> Hey guys, how to copy and paste on the terminal without the mouse ?
[23:59] <urkengurken> im sory but  what do you mean by clear all keys?
[23:59] <urkengurken> i apologize im a bit new to linux