[02:08] <bluesabre> ochosi: email to the ML I and anything else you wanna do :)
[05:48] <Noskcaj> ochosi, ok. Would you be able to make it? I'll just use an sgt icon till then
[05:56] <ali1234> poster of this screenshot claims it is numix https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/35h9a3/xfce_back_to_xfce/
[05:56] <ali1234> why does my system look completely different when i set theme to numix?
[05:57] <ali1234> for example my system, thunar with numix: http://i.imgur.com/8yO2ubs.png
[06:06] <ali1234> hmm... because it's not numix at all, it's adwaita
[06:10] <ali1234> next question: why is the bluetooth icon not mono on 15.04?
[08:37] <flocculant> ochosi: can you admin me on https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers 
[08:37] <flocculant> so I can mail testers from LP :)
[10:29] <Noskcaj> sgt-puzzles-launcher 0.0.1 has been uploaded
[10:30] <flocculant> Noskcaj: nice one :)
[10:31] <bluesabre> good job Noskcaj :D
[10:31] <Noskcaj> It's pretty crap, but thanks.
[10:31] <Noskcaj> big TODO list, but all it needs to be archive-safe is an icon.
[10:32] <Noskcaj> and us choosing how we want to handle the desktop file hiding
[11:03] <ochosi> flocculant: done
[11:04] <ochosi> ali1234: the icons are numix, the gtk theme is adwaita
[11:04] <ochosi> bluesabre: ok, i'll see what i can do
[11:04] <flocculant> ochosi: ta :)
[11:05] <ochosi> flocculant: also, with all the work knome has put into our new status tracker, i hope that'll motivate you to use it again over trello ;)
[11:05] <flocculant> well 
[11:05] <flocculant> we'll see :)
[11:09] <flocculant> ochosi: LP is ok - but I can't for instance - tell it a date I want to do something and have it remind me ;)
[11:09] <flocculant> also need something actually readable to send testers too 
[11:34] <knome> flocculant, i'm just setting up reminders for open work items you can get every day
[11:37] <flocculant> right, not quite what I meant - but I guess others might like that 
[11:37] <knome> i acknowledge it isn't exactly what you want
[11:37] <flocculant> :)
[11:38] <knome> maybe we can set up something like what you want too
[11:38] <knome> but what was the comment re: readable for testers?
[11:38] <flocculant> not sure how we could get due dates onto LP 
[11:38] <knome> the tracker can handle this and that.
[11:38] <knome> and we can make it handle more
[11:39] <flocculant> reading the dev list back in June - qa was discussing with some testers how to get info to them - was m/l and trello 
[11:39] <flocculant> that's what I was referring too 
[11:39] <knome> can you point me to the thread or summarize it again?
[11:41] <flocculant> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-May/010746.html
[11:41] <knome> thanks
[11:41] <flocculant> and forward from there 
[11:42] <knome> right, that thread
[11:42] <knome> well it went to nonsense quickly
[11:44] <flocculant> when doesn't it
[11:44] <knome> when you send a mail and nobody replies to it? :P
[11:44] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[11:45] <flocculant> anyway - the long and short of it is that lp and blueprints isn't the place to do that sort of thing :)
[11:45] <flocculant> and mailing list comes up short really, so until I know of something else that can be used ... 
[11:45] <knome> likely not, because there isn't any single actionable item
[11:45] <flocculant> yep
[11:46] <knome> well, bbl
[11:46] <flocculant> hf
[11:46] <knome> wife wants the laptop and then she has other tasks assigned to me
[11:46] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[11:46] <knome> let's pick this up when i get back
[11:46] <knome> ->
[12:00] <bluesabre> ochosi: thanks
[12:04] <bluesabre> ochosi: anything in particular you want in a very near menulibre release?
[12:04] <bluesabre> going to improve pantheon and plank integration
[12:05] <bluesabre> since I've seen some distress in my google search subscription :)
[12:11] <bluesabre> bbl
[12:45] <knome> flocculant, so i understand what you'd like $software to do, but what it is for the testers?
[12:55] <flocculant> somewhere easy for them to read foo and bar basically
[12:56] <flocculant> toying with a couple of ideas - possibly revamp x.org qa page(s) with a bit more detail, or if I have sufficient time to fight ubuntu wiki maybe there 
[12:57] <knome> the ubuntu wiki seems to be the slowest out there now
[12:57] <knome> LP has gotten a datacentre move and timeouts have been reduced
[12:57] <knome> so it's actually pretty good now
[12:58] <flocculant> lp? 
[12:58] <flocculant> because the wiki is slower than ever 
[12:59] <knome> yes, LP
[12:59] <flocculant> long and short at the moment is I'm not completely sure what I need as I'm not completely sure what I'm going to be doing :)
[13:00] <flocculant> I just know that LP is not the right place for it :)
[13:00] <knome> in a way, the mailing list sounds like the right place
[13:00] <knome> it's well archived, and you can do updates as often as you wish
[13:01] <knome> of course, it doesn't necessarily reach the testers the way we wanted
[13:01] <flocculant> mmm
[13:01] <knome> but then what will?
[13:01] <flocculant> still not sure m/l is right
[13:01] <knome> i mean, the technology doesn't bring the users
[13:02] <flocculant> you can't actually update things - all you can do is resend with something else
[13:02] <flocculant> knome: ofc not :)
[13:02] <knome> yep
[13:02] <knome> but then if it's so much in flux, something like etherpad might just be the right choice
[13:02] <knome> i know it sucks people need to have an LP account...
[13:03] <knome> but tbh, they need that to do pretty much anything
[13:03] <flocculant> yea - and of course you have to wait to be added to the team 
[13:03] <knome> if that seems to be the bottleneck, i can volunteer to admin the team too
[13:03] <flocculant> I'd rather have something that people can *just* look at easily - and for that type of thing trello appears to be easiest 
[13:04] <knome> what i like pad > trello is the ownership colors
[13:04] <flocculant> yea - that's a useful thing
[13:04] <knome> and you also have the chat there
[13:05] <flocculant> yep
[13:05] <knome> but yeah, it would be perfect if you could see without account
[13:06] <ochosi> i guess you can set pads up like that, just not the *buntu pad
[13:06] <knome> yes, you can set up pads like anybody can edit
[13:06] <flocculant> mmm
[13:06] <flocculant> didn't think of that tbh
[13:06] <flocculant> *other* pads
[13:06] <knome> ;)
[13:07] <ochosi> lol
[13:07] <ochosi> bluesabre: nothing in particular from my side for menulibre
[13:07] <flocculant> not that it's likely to happen - with trello as it is set up - random people can read but not edit
[13:08] <flocculant> so no chance of random graffiti to clear up etc
[13:08] <flocculant> though - with ~10 testers it'd not take long to ask who did it :D 
[13:09] <flocculant> the end result needs to be easy for testers to just check what's needed - I'm not overly concerned with how much work is in it for me tbh
[13:09] <knome> flocculant, with that amount it's not too hard to get them to register an LP account ;)
[13:12] <flocculant> not sure what LP has to do with it? 
[13:12] <knome> nvm :P
[13:13] <flocculant> unless you're referring to buntu pad
[13:13] <knome> yep
[13:13] <flocculant> right - still not sure I'm liking pad vs trello for what I anticipate 
[13:14] <knome> one option would be to make ~xubuntu-testers a member of ~ubuntu-etherpad -> all testers get the access automatically
[13:14] <knome> ok
[13:14] <knome> i'm not opposed to you using trello, i'm just wondering if we could get it all in one place
[13:15] <flocculant> yep
[13:15] <flocculant> if it works out that we can I've not got an issue with using something else 
[13:15] <flocculant> nothing is set in stone
[13:16] <knome> could the information be in the ISO tracker somehow?
[13:16] <knome> (or packages where appropriate)
[13:16] <flocculant> what I'm really after is working kinks out between now and end of wily cycle so it's all in place and working for the LTS cycle
[13:17] <knome> ack
[13:18] <flocculant> nah - trackers even further away than blueprint is :)
[13:18] <flocculant> imagine somewhere *we* can write - people test this
[13:18] <flocculant> and then change it tomorrow
[13:19] <flocculant> with generic information as well 
[13:19] <knome> tracker could be able to do that
[13:19] <knome> there's the notice board for front page
[13:19] <knome> why not for product families
[13:20] <ochosi> knome: but the pad isnt much better than trello for the tracker, no?
[13:20] <knome> ochosi, right
[13:20] <knome> ochosi, otoh, the ISO tracker would be better because people need to go there to report tests anyway
[13:20] <knome> so avoids extra steps
[13:20] <ochosi> mhm
[13:21] <ochosi> is that one still actively maintained/developed?
[13:21] <flocculant> knome: the tracker is just too unwieldy - I'm obviously not making the agility I want plain enough :)
[13:22] <flocculant> talking of which - need to sort tracker admin out with nick 
[13:23] <flocculant> I don't particularly want to use *anything* - but for what I anticipate/envisage - trello seems the best fit for it
[13:31] <knome> ochosi, there are people who have done updates for it lately
[13:32] <knome> i have more tasks incoming.
[13:32] <knome> see you later.
[13:33] <flocculant> heh - cya later :)
[13:34] <ochosi> hf knome 
[14:32] <ali1234> ristretto won't let me zoom an image to more than 50.5% ...
[14:35] <ali1234> in fact it won't let the image be bigger than the window... ever
[14:36] <ochosi> "ristretto: italian for 'restricted'" (in this case zooming) ;)
[14:37] <ali1234> this is a bug though right?
[14:37] <ali1234> the "1:1" button just does nothing...
[14:38] <flocculant> I just zoomed something to 400% - and then back to 100% with the '1' button
[14:38] <ali1234> http://i.imgur.com/9ATHdff.png this is the image
[14:41] <flocculant> saved that and ristretto works fine with that too, though it does stop zooming at 400% 
[19:48] <ochosi> knome: started some trial on a greybird a11y xfwm4 theme, if you have time we can discuss how far to take the a11y aspect
[19:54] <jjfrv8> ochosi, I've made the requested changes to chapter 1 and finished the draft of chapter 2. They should be ready for your review.
[19:59] <ochosi> jjfrv8: nice! what's left from your pov?
[20:00] <jjfrv8> I thought I needed to work through the rest of the chapters that were copied over to the wiki. Unless you don't think they're all needed.
[20:06] <ochosi> tbh i haven't looked recently
[20:11] <jjfrv8> Using Removable Media and Preferences shouldn't take too much work. 
[20:12] <jjfrv8> But as I mentioned earlier, the plugins stuff seems to be outdated and I don't know what's accurate about them anymore.
[20:47] <ochosi> jjfrv8: k, i'll try to review the first two chapters asap
[21:38] <knome> ochosi, sure
[22:09] <Noskcaj> How should i hide the sgt-puzzles desktop files? Just a postinst that adds a bunch of NoDisplays ?
[22:14] <ochosi> Noskcaj: i'd do it like that but it might be best to ask bluesabre, he has more xp with menu and desktop file spec
[22:14] <Noskcaj> ok
[22:23] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: there's probably no good way to really do it outside of making them no-display
[22:23] <ochosi> oh, and there he is :)
[22:24] <ochosi> bluesabre: i would second this bugreport/patch/suggestion btw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bug/1476401
[22:24] <knome> ochosi, if you didn't notice, i'm here too ;)
[22:24] <ochosi> knome: yeah yeah
[22:24]  * ochosi pats knome on the head
[22:24] <knome> hah
[22:24] <knome> just saying, i'm not in a rush
[22:24] <bluesabre> ochosi: makes sense
[22:24] <bluesabre> but catfish is next week
[22:24] <bluesabre> silly simon
[22:24] <bluesabre> :p
[22:24] <ochosi> oh ofc ;))
[22:25] <ochosi> knome: well you could start with a draft for a blog post/announcement for xfpanel-switch. i gotta head to bed soon tonight, but i guess i could finalise it tomorrow ;)
[22:25] <knome> hahah
[22:26] <knome> i thought you wanted to talk about greybird a11y :P
[22:26] <ochosi> yeah, i can quickly tell you what i had in mind
[22:26] <knome> if you think it's worth it
[22:26] <knome> (instead of actually having time to sit down and discuss about it)
[22:27] <ochosi> since an a11y gtk theme is a lot of work and there's not enough time for me to work on that this cycle i thought i'd just do more variations of the xfwm4 theme and we could just ship all of them
[22:27] <ochosi> one of them can be found in the xfwm4-refresh branch
[22:27] <knome> heh
[22:27] <knome> okay
[22:27] <ochosi> another one will get pushed to xfwm4-a11y
[22:28] <ochosi> for a11y i considered making it highcontrast, but i'm not 100% sure of that now
[22:28] <ochosi> maybe just a thicker-border greybird xfwm4 version
[22:28] <knome> xfwm?
[22:28] <ochosi> yeah
[22:28] <knome> thicker border == bigger buttons would be a good start
[22:28] <knome> maybe the inside gradient could be hinting more towards white at the top
[22:29] <knome> well, the gradient that we'd introduce
[22:29] <ochosi> if you have time to check it out now, i can quickly push what i have
[22:29] <knome> ok, if you remind me how to get the branch
[22:30] <bluesabre> go to tree, break off branch
[22:30] <bluesabre> 3. smack bluesabre with said branch for being a troll
[22:31] <knome> :D
[22:32] <ochosi> knome: git clone $repo && git checkout xfwm4-a11y
[22:32] <ochosi> bluesabre (and everyone else) feel free to take a look too
[22:32] <ochosi> wouldnt mind some feedback on that one
[22:33] <knome> was the font size controlled by xfwm themes?
[22:33] <knome> or just user?
[22:34] <ochosi> just a user setting
[22:34] <knome> ok
[22:34] <knome> first comments/thoughts:
[22:34] <knome> the active/inactive window menu button coloring is weird
[22:34] <ochosi> which sucks a bit, cause the title vertical offset is "hardcoded" (or at least not in very user-friendly place)
[22:35] <knome> i would expect them to be the other way around really
[22:35] <bluesabre> ochosi: whats the repo in this case?
[22:35] <knome> well, the bg color
[22:35] <ochosi> bluesabre: normal greybird repo
[22:35] <knome> bluesabre, https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird
[22:35] <bluesabre> ah
[22:35] <bluesabre> stupid me
[22:36] <ochosi> knome: yeah, those buttons i haven't touched
[22:36] <knome> another thing is that i'd up the size of the button icons
[22:36] <ochosi> for now i'm mostly curious whether you think the size is enough
[22:36] <ochosi> or whether you like this sort of hover-style
[22:36] <ochosi> which makes the buttons a bit more discoverable i think
[22:36] <knome> i'm not a fan of that hover-style
[22:36] <ochosi> i'd have to redraw them potentially anyway
[22:36] <knome> but for a11y...
[22:36] <knome> i don't know
[22:36] <ochosi> yeah, this is not the new default look
[22:36] <knome> maybe it'd help more if they were visible at all time
[22:36] <knome> even slightly
[22:36] <ochosi> yeah, that's another option
[22:36] <knome> even if that isn't too accessible
[22:37] <knome> but some highlight for the button area
[22:37] <ochosi> i could just make them look like any other gtk button
[22:37] <knome> then for hover, more white for the bg
[22:37] <knome> mmh, why not
[22:37] <knome> something like that might work
[22:37] <ochosi> shouldn't be too hard
[22:37] <knome> i don't know if that much padding is helpful between the buttons
[22:37] <knome> maybe it doesn't look so bad when/if they have the borders visible at all times
[22:37] <ochosi> i guess we'll know when they aren't flat anymore
[22:38] <knome> yep
[22:38] <knome> and really, make the icons inside larger
[22:38] <knome> their color is good IMO
[22:38] <ochosi> i'd just do the same padding as with the rest of the theme / buttons
[22:38] <ochosi> for starters at least
[22:38] <ochosi> mhm, was thinking about that too
[22:38] <bluesabre> oh
[22:38] <bluesabre> that looks nice
[22:38] <ochosi> i made the borders 3px btw
[22:38] <ochosi> bumped from 1px
[22:39] <knome> yep, that's good
[22:39] <knome> could be even 4
[22:39] <knome> or 5
[22:39] <ochosi> bluesabre: feel free to check out the xfwm4-refresh branch too
[22:39] <ochosi> knome: yeah, that's what i was wondering. how far should i push that
[22:39] <knome> again, it's a11y
[22:39] <ochosi> yeah, so maybe 4 or 5 then
[22:39] <knome> how much is enough to hit that comfortably *every time* (for us at least)
[22:39] <knome> it should be frustration-free
[22:40] <knome> so on the more minor issues
[22:40] <knome> i would make the padding between the button borders and window borders smaller
[22:40] <knome> imo they can be pretty close to the edge
[22:40] <knome> or is that exactly the handle that's taking the space there too?
[22:41] <ochosi> yeah, probably, but that again will be something to see when they're not flat anymore
[22:41] <knome> yep
[22:41] <knome> at least one thing to fix:
[22:41] <knome> make the padding to top the same as to left
[22:41] <knome> or right
[22:41] <knome> looks weird now
[22:42] <ochosi> i'll try to quickly fix up the buttons so we can get a better impression of that
[22:42] <knome> ok
[22:43] <ochosi> also gotta fix the style
[22:43] <ochosi> not sure i like those alternative symbols
[22:43] <knome> no hurry for me :P
[22:43] <knome> right, that might be confusing too
[22:44] <knome> and it's still greybird, so consistency++
[22:45] <bluesabre> ochosi: seems like the menu is quite a bit over
[22:45] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/hbRI43w.png
[22:45] <ochosi> wow weird
[22:45] <knome> can confirm that
[22:45] <ochosi> but yeah
[22:46] <ochosi> the problem is fairly obvious
[22:46] <ochosi> when looking at the theme
[22:46] <ochosi> so no worries, i'll fix that
[22:46] <bluesabre> cool
[22:46] <ochosi> this is more of a sketch tbh
[22:46] <knome> like a python sketch?
[22:46] <bluesabre> not again!
[22:46] <knome> yes again!
[22:46]  * bluesabre dies
[22:47] <knome> he's pining for the fjords
[22:47] <ochosi> pull again
[22:48] <knome> yeah, i would likely put them closer to each other
[22:48] <knome> and make a more prominent hover style
[22:48] <ochosi> the hover style is currently very close to the gtk buttons
[22:48] <ochosi> or the same
[22:48] <knome> right, but that likely needs fixing too once we get there
[22:49] <ochosi> right, but that's still far away :)
[22:49] <knome> sure, but let's set the standard
[22:49] <ochosi> i thought consistency++ ;)
[22:49] <knome> this way we can also get feedback on whether it's too bright
[22:49] <knome> or if it isn't bright enough
[22:49] <knome> so we have time to adjust
[22:50] <ochosi> first i wanna get the button size and all that right
[22:50] <ochosi> then we can fiddle with hover styles i'd say
[22:50] <knome> sure
[22:50] <knome> just saying since you wanted feedback, eh?
[22:50] <ochosi> otherwise i always have to go back and mod everything
[22:50] <ochosi> yeah yeah ;)
[22:52] <knome> actually,
[22:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: there is some weird gtk3 mechanism that makes my touchpad constantly select or grab stuff, have you noticed any of that at all?
[22:52] <knome> i like how the menu button looks on the inactive window
[22:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: even when i just wanna move the cursor around with one finger
[22:52] <knome> if we had that and the fg color of the button on the active window...
[22:52] <ochosi> isn't that too dark though?
[22:52] <knome> that would set the buttons off just enough from the wm
[22:53] <knome> i don't know
[22:53] <knome> i just like how it looks
[22:53] <knome> a11y doesn't need to mean it looks like a turd
[22:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: more things (toolbars) are grabbable in gtk3
[22:55] <ochosi> knome: ok pull that in
[22:56] <knome> juicy
[22:56] <knome> that looks good imo
[22:56] <knome> now th fg might need to be a bit darker
[22:56] <knome> but that's fine really
[22:56] <ochosi> the gradient seems a bit wrong to me
[22:56] <knome> really?
[22:56] <ochosi> seems to go lighter toward the bottom
[22:57] <knome> doesn't it?
[22:57] <ochosi> which is a bit odd with the rest of the buttons of the theme doing the opposite
[22:57] <bluesabre> Did you reduce the contrast of the text?
[22:57] <knome> bluesabre, with the xfwm theming? :P
[22:57] <bluesabre> yah
[22:57] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, also just noticed that i get erroneous text-selection in mousepad-gtk3 with my touchpad. really weird and only gtk3 related
[22:58] <bluesabre> the xfwm font seems lighter than before
[22:58] <bluesabre> maybe not
[22:58] <ochosi> maybe, not sure
[22:58] <ochosi> i would make it darker anyway
[22:58] <knome> ochosi, it looks like it's lighter on the bottom because it is
[22:58] <ochosi> the active one at least
[22:58] <ochosi> knome: yeah i know, but that's what feels wrong to me
[22:58] <knome> i'm fine with flipping it over
[22:58] <knome> and an idea:
[22:58] <knome> maybe the close/menu buttons could have that lighter style
[22:59] <knome> if you want
[22:59] <knome> to emphasize their special meaning
[22:59] <knome> maybe it isn't the best thing to overthink/-do this tonight
[23:00] <knome> go get some sleep :)
[23:00] <knome> generally, this is a good direction
[23:00] <knome> ++
[23:00] <knome> (generally meaning, everything that i didn't say isn't perfect is good, eg. nothing)
[23:00] <ochosi> ok cool
[23:01] <ochosi> was mainly going for the general feedback of whether you agree with this direction
[23:01] <ochosi> as i said, all the buttons will likely have to be redrawn entirely
[23:01] <ochosi> i'm not happy with how that theme is done atm
[23:01] <knome> it's good for me, now we need some people who actually needs a11y stuff
[23:01] <ochosi> prolly
[23:01] <knome> but let's improve it to be better first
[23:01] <ochosi> anybody here knows some old folks? :
[23:01] <ochosi> :p
[23:02] <knome> ochosi, your mom
[23:02] <knome> ba-dum tsshh
[23:02] <ochosi> no seriously, thing is i don't wanna go highcontrast-a11y
[23:02] <ochosi> just a bit more easy to hit everything
[23:02] <knome> ooh, he's a hitter
[23:02] <ochosi> :D
[23:02] <knome> know what i mean, know what i mean
[23:03] <knome> o-o-ooo
[23:03] <knome> et cetera
[23:03] <ochosi> indeed, i do :)
[23:04] <knome> i know you do..
[23:04] <knome> aaanyway
[23:04] <knome> maybe we can get folks around ubuntu help us with this
[23:04] <knome> get it cycled in the UWN
[23:04] <knome> canonical design folks?
[23:04] <knome> might be a stretch, but who knows
[23:04] <ochosi> right, why not
[23:04] <ochosi> but they might go too far in the real a11y direction
[23:05] <ochosi> which means maybe 2x the size and contrsat
[23:05] <ochosi> contrast
[23:05] <knome> well, we would only ask for feedback
[23:05] <knome> but then again
[23:05] <knome> i guess it depends on the definition
[23:05] <knome> another one just needs bigger borders
[23:05] <knome> another one more contrast
[23:05] <knome> etc
[23:05] <ochosi> bluesabre: i dunno why you never mentioned this hideous theming artifact: http://i.imgur.com/lYNAZvZ.png
[23:05] <knome> it's endless..
[23:05] <ochosi> yeah
[23:06] <knome> so the only way to catch-all is to make a catch-all, "real" a11y theme
[23:06] <ochosi> bluesabre: i guess i should really try to get gtkentries and all other widgets at the same size/padding. this really sucks
[23:06] <ochosi> knome: yeah, i don't wanna do that
[23:06] <ochosi> there's already highcontrast for that
[23:06] <knome> yeah, me neither
[23:06] <knome> but the balance is important to find
[23:06] <knome> and for that, guesses are meh
[23:07] <knome> i could probably ask a few non-technical people to evaluate it
[23:07] <knome> read: relatives
[23:07] <ochosi> alright
[23:07] <knome> and maybe somebody else
[23:07] <ochosi> anyway, will get some sleep now
[23:07] <knome> let's think about that when it's current
[23:07] <knome> oki, good night
[23:07] <ochosi> night everyone
[23:08] <knome> he's just resting
[23:08] <knome> people
[23:08] <knome> no worries
[23:08] <knome> ;)
[23:13] <ochosi> bluesabre: oh also, please add ctrl+q as a shortcut to menulibre for quitting
[23:38] <bluesabre> ochosi: will do
[23:39] <bluesabre> ochosi: still around?
[23:39] <bluesabre> that theming bug you mentioned is really me not using widgets correctly, and is fixed in the 2.1 branch
[23:40] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/yScNLMn.png