[02:09] <pmatulis> dunno
[02:26] <mariano_> I'm trying to install ubuntu server what is the most recommended partitioning method to choose from the install options? Use entire disk and set up LVM?  or just use entire disk?
[02:27] <patdk-lap> depends on the usage
[02:28] <mariano_> I have a server that I want to put virtual machines on. One drive is 120GB SD for the server and the second drive is 500GB for the virtual machines.
[02:28] <mariano_> I'm new to server things, and to linux in particular so I'm kind of flying blind.
[02:46] <kklimonda> tbh I default to LVM on all my servers nowadays.
[02:47] <kklimonda> mariano_: ^ lvm gives you some extra flexibility, in case you need it - but it's also an extra layer that you have to make sense of in case something ever goes wrong
[02:51]  * patdk-lap lothes lvm
[02:51] <patdk-lap> and only uses it if I really really need it
[02:52] <patdk-lap> and that is like on 2 servers out of hundreds
[02:56] <mariano_> ok
[02:56] <mariano_> thank you.
[02:57] <mariano_> I'm going to use libvirt to setup the virtual machines. Should I install the virtual machine host during the ubuntu server install, or just the basic ubuntu server.
[03:14] <sarnold> mariano_: I always just take the smallest possible install from whatever mechanism I'm using, apt-get intsall whatever I need once the thing is up and running
[03:23] <mariano_> Ok, thank you. I'll give that a try.
[04:00] <mariano_> I'm back to bother you guys with more questions lol. Towards the end of installing ubuntu server 14.04.02 LTS I get executing 'grub-install /dev/sde' failed. This is a fatal error. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[04:01] <sarnold> can you execute it by hand?
[04:01] <mariano_> Let me check.
[04:02] <mariano_> It takes me back to the ubuntu installer main menu. I think I can finish installing ubuntu server without grub. Can it be fixed after the installation?
[04:03] <mariano_> I also have the option of installing LiLo boot loader? or continue without boot loader.
[04:04] <sarnold> LILO is still there????
[04:04] <mariano_> Yea
[04:06] <mariano_> My three options are Grub, Lilo, or continue without a boot loader. The Grub one keeps failing. I've redownloaded the server image and recreated the usb installer a few times.
[04:06] <mariano_> Same thing keeps happening.
[04:07] <wolflarson> is sde the correct drive?
[04:08] <mariano_> Well, both drives that I have on there are clean. I can try to take out one drive.
[04:08] <wolflarson> I had issues with ubuntu not detecting the correct first drive when I had multiple mounted and just had to specify what drive i wanted grub on by hand
[04:09] <mariano_> ok, let me see if I can do that by hand.
[04:10] <sarnold> this looks helpful, but eww http://askubuntu.com/questions/532540/ubuntu-installation-failure-unable-to-install-grub
[04:11] <mariano_> ok, thank you. I'll give these things a try.
[06:08] <garethdaine> Hey folks
[06:10] <garethdaine> When completing a clean install of Ubuntu server is there a requirement to have a http web server on it like apache2 or nginx? Or can you simply install a clean copy of Ubuntu that will allow access via SSH?
[06:10] <sarnold> garethdaine: it's been a wihle since I've used an installer, but I'm pretty sure there's an easy way to get through with a minimal install that's really just an sshd when you're done
[06:11] <garethdaine> OK, that’s good to know.
[06:11] <garethdaine> I’ve asked our dedicated host to install a clean copy of Ubuntu 14.04 x64 without any software on it such as apache, mysql etc as I have provisioning tools that will do everything for me.
[06:12] <garethdaine> THey initially installed it with Apache2, PHP, MySQL
[06:12] <sarnold> d'oh
[06:12] <garethdaine> I asked them to do it again, and now they’ve installed nginx
[06:12] <garethdaine> So I’m getting a bit pissed off
[06:12] <garethdaine> haha
[06:12] <sarnold> I suspect most users do want one or the other, so I'm not surprised that they have those preconfigured options..
[06:13] <sarnold> hopefully hey've got some way for you to do an install on your own?
[06:13] <garethdaine> Sure, in my case though I”ve specificially asked them on 2 occasions not to install anything
[06:13] <garethdaine> No, I don’t believe they have
[06:13] <garethdaine> I haven’t asked but I’m pretty sure they haven't
[06:14] <garethdaine> I will ask them that though now that you have mentioned it
[06:14] <sarnold> you can make it work, apt-get purge nginx etc., but still, annoying :)
[06:14] <garethdaine> Thanks for the advice
[06:14] <garethdaine> Sure sarnold, with me knowing they have installed nginx, it makes me wonder what else they have installed
[06:14] <sarnold> hehe
[06:14] <garethdaine> I want the live environment to match exactly my development environment
[06:15] <garethdaine> So my provisioning tools will do all that on a clean install
[06:15] <sarnold> that's definitely worth doing right
[06:15] <garethdaine> Thanks mate
[06:15] <garethdaine> Appreciate it
[07:52] <bcx_>  hi all, ubuntu novice here... was wondering if someone could talk me through server redundancy? i have 2 servers running ubuntu 14.04, not sure how to have 1 mirror the other...
[11:20] <impi> Happy System Administrator Appreciation Day guys :)
[11:21] <impi> You guys are awesome! Please never forget that we appreciate every inc of effort, every stressful night, everything you do for us :)
[11:21] <impi> Peace
[11:51] <jamespage> zul, trove is the final bit of the sqlalchemy puzzle left
[11:52] <jamespage> ...
[11:54] <zul> jamespage: ack on it
[11:54] <jamespage> zul, ta - about to go for my flight home
[11:54] <jamespage> nice to get this unblocked today if possible
[11:54] <jamespage> leave things clear for l2 next week
[11:54] <zul> jamespage: okies have a safe flight
[13:47] <zul> jamespage: trove uploaded
[13:49] <jamespage> zul, and proposed unlocked!
[13:49] <jamespage> zul, what was the fix?
[13:51] <zul> jamespage,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11973425/
[13:52] <jamespage> zul, 404?
[13:53] <zul> jamespage: erm https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu/+source/openstack-trove/tree/debian/patches/fix-columun-uniqueness.patch
[13:54] <zul> jamespage,  we can drop it in l2
[13:54] <jamespage> zul, ack
[13:54] <jamespage> well that will be next week :-)
[13:54] <zul> yeah coreycb will love that ;)
[13:54] <jamespage> hehe
[13:54] <jamespage> we also need to push out a stable snapshot for kilo as well
[13:55] <jamespage> catchup on fixes....
[13:57] <jamespage> zul, zigo has done quite a few updates for b2 deps into experimental so we should just need a sync catchup there
[13:57] <jamespage> zul, coreycb: pymysql is also going to be key - we have main projects switching for b2
[13:57] <jamespage> cheerio python-mysqldb
[13:57] <zul> jamespage: ack
[13:58] <zul> jamespage,  im sprinting in montreal next week as well btw
[13:59] <jamespage> zul, yeah - i remember - chatted with stgraber this week about next
[13:59] <zul> jamespage,  oh oh :)
[14:54] <gQuigs> I'm trying to increase the max open files limit (soft and hard) for samba processes on 12.04..  without changing anything other processes on system
[14:55] <gQuigs> I can get hard to change using /etc/init/smbd.override or changing max open files in smb.conf, but I can't get soft to change...
[14:57] <gQuigs> (and unlike what I remember there is no samba username for limits.conf)
[15:25] <gQuigs> hmm.. looks like it's specific to http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Stanzas#limit and smbd
[15:28] <gQuigs> with other daemons the upstart soft limit get's applied correctly - tested with nmbd actually
[16:46] <gQuigs> seems changing smb.conf (max open files) was the answer
[17:41] <jrgifford> One off-topic message: I wish you all a happy sysadmin day. http://sysadminday.com/
[20:51] <mariano_> I'm trying to format a hard drive to use as part of a kvm pool storage. Once I do fdisk -l command, I get Device Boot /dev/sda1, start 2048, end 976773167, blocks 488385560, id 83, and system linux. Does this mean that I successfully formated my entire drive  to have one  partition taking up the entire disk and with extension ext3?
[20:53] <bekks> mariano_: No. It means you created a partition, primary, partition type 83. It doesnt say anything about the filesystem used.
[20:55] <mariano_> How can I change it to a usable partition? Like ext3, ntfs, ect?
[20:57] <patdk-lap> it is a usable partition
[20:57] <patdk-lap> it's not a usable filesystem
[20:57] <patdk-lap> assuming you want to install a filesystem on it
[20:58] <mariano_> Yes, I think I need to install a file system on it.
[20:59] <patdk-lap> well use mkfs for whatever filesystem you want to use
[20:59] <patdk-lap> with whatever optiosn you want to use on that filesystem
[20:59] <mariano_> Ok, I'll go read on that. Thanks.
[21:10] <mariano_> After I install a file system to a partition, do I need to mount it or need a mount point? Does the server mount it automatically?
[21:10] <sarnold> you need to mount it
[21:11] <mariano_> ok, thanks. I'll go read on that.
[21:11] <mariano_> :)
[21:11] <lordievader> The server would mount it automatically if you define it in /etc/fstab
[21:13] <mariano_> Do I have to do that in order for it to work everytime I restart the server?
[21:14] <lordievader> Unless you want to mount it manually everytime, yes.
[21:14] <sarnold> mariano_: yeah
[21:14] <mariano_> Ok, thank you guys.
[21:53] <mariano_> Is there a way to download iso files to ubuntu server and save them to a specific directory, say /guest_images_fs
[21:53] <sarnold> mariano_: mkdir whatever ; cd !$ ; wget http://whatever
[21:54] <tonyyarusso> mariano_: uh, wget?  Of course.
[21:54] <mariano_> Ok, I'll read on that sarnold. Thank you so much again for your help.
[22:56] <mariano_> voila... Got my headless ubuntu server running virtual machines. Thanks for all the help sarnold and the rest of you amigos. :)
[22:56] <sarnold> mariano_: great :)
[22:56] <mariano_> Now onto install databases and play with R. :)
[22:57] <sarnold> \o/
[22:57] <sarnold> "play with R" has been on my todo list for about fifteen years now...
[22:58] <mariano_> hehe. I got tired of SAS and Stata. Besides, now that I'm out of school... I can't afford the $$$ for other programs that have the same features as R.
[22:59] <sarnold> oof. yeah. spendy stuff..