[02:58] <diddledan> me hungyr
[02:59] <zmoylan-pi> you in need of dictionary
[03:01] <diddledan> aye
[03:01] <diddledan> still hungyr tho
[03:01]  * zmoylan-pi passes diddledan my klingon dictionary
[05:54] <knightwise> mornin peeps !
[05:54] <diddledan> marnin
[05:54] <knightwise> Comin at ya from the recently upgraded windows 10 Surface pro 3
[05:54] <diddledan> \o/
[05:55] <knightwise> a little bit of step back if you ask me
[05:55] <diddledan> tech ftw!
[05:55] <knightwise> actually feeling like im using an older os; I miss the start screen (no kidding)
[05:55] <diddledan> you can reinstate that
[05:55] <diddledan> let me find the right dohicky
[05:55] <knightwise> I know. I'll play around a little with the new interface and get the hang of it.
[05:55] <diddledan> settings -> personalisation -> start
[05:56] <diddledan> there's a toggle for "use start full screen"
[05:56] <knightwise> thanx diddledan
[05:57]  * knightwise has to rearrage all his tiles now :p 
[05:57] <diddledan> lol
[05:58] <knightwise> in all its not bad. Its a pretty clean upgrade. had a small issue yesterday with the lock screen but that got fixed after a reboot
[06:05] <knightwise> ok ,; bittorrent sync and a raspberry pi  ? Not a good combination
[06:06] <knightwise> The btsync process is eating away the cpu like crazy
[06:07] <knightwise> thinking of  running a "pull" rsync script instead
[06:54] <knightwise> There , Rsync script running. all I need to do now is to do the RSA key exchange and cron the script
[06:54] <knightwise> and then (hopefully) it will work
[07:03] <bujji> hello all
[07:04] <bujji> *****Happy System Admin Day*****
[07:06] <bujji> mappps: hello o/
[07:14] <knightwise> hey bujji ,
[07:14] <knightwise> Happy sys admin day
[07:15] <bujji> knightwise: hello))
[07:15] <bujji> thank you,you too))
[07:17] <bujji> knightwise:   o/ \o
[08:00] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:00] <diddledan> m00
[08:01] <MooDoo> :)
[08:01] <xplora1a> mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:02] <knightwise> ok , the new mail and calendar apps in W10 can give Apple a whooping.
[08:04] <MooDoo> knightwise: liking win10 are you?
[08:05] <knightwise> not too bad. I think the start button is a little bit of a step back .. But thats probably because i'm not on a desktop (Surface pro 3) in all they didn't do a bad job.
[08:13] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:15] <knightwise> hey davmor2
[08:20] <davmor2> so morning song this fine day Bat out of Hell
[08:21] <knightwise> Oh god !
[08:21] <knightwise> another one to get stuck in my head
[08:26] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:26] <Laney> davmor2: listening to desert island discs?
[08:27] <davmor2> knightwise: no idea what you mean
[08:28] <davmor2> Laney: nope, my wife went through her american cookbook and read out the word MeatLoaf and that was that I couldn't get bat out of hell out of my head then :)
[08:29] <Laney> lolz
[08:29] <Laney> it was one of the songs chosen on there
[08:29]  * bashrc is like a bat out of hell
[08:31] <davmor2> The sirens are screaming and the fire are burning way down in the valley tonight
[08:32] <davmor2> s/burning/howlin'
[08:47]  * popey tickles corenominal 
[08:47]  * corenominal giggles
[08:53] <bigcalm> popey: the $1m addition was a fun surprise
[08:53] <popey> ya
[08:54] <bigcalm> Looks like we'll have plenty of card games for the RAT
[08:56] <bigcalm> popey: did you get the same cartoon as mine?
[08:56] <popey> ya
[08:56] <popey> but with my name on it :)
[08:56] <bigcalm> I hoped that was the case ;)
[08:57] <bigcalm> I wonder if somebody with the surname "James" got a cartoon saying "Jamess"
[08:57] <bigcalm> Or similar surname
[08:58] <bigcalm> I was honestly surprised to get post this morning
[09:00] <popey> yeah, me too
[09:01] <popey> got the "shipping soon" mail at 00:27 this morning
[09:01] <diddledan> o_O
[09:01] <bigcalm> Those that do not follow us on twitter have no idea what we're talking about
[09:01] <diddledan> indeed...
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy System Administrator Appreciation Day! 😃
[09:04] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:05] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE_p5N89XQI
[09:07] <JamesTait> It's funny because it's true. ☺
[10:35] <ujjain> battered means like beaten up, right?
[10:36] <ujjain> not in the context of fish?
[10:38] <popey> or drunk
[10:38] <popey> "got completely battered last night"
[10:38] <popey> "the woman left her husband because she was battered by him"
[10:39] <popey> so could be  bothyes
[10:39] <davmor2> popey: but with a posh accent you can be anything and drunk.  "I went out last night and got completely Gazeboed"
[10:39] <popey> true dat
[10:40] <popey> trolleyed, spannered, there's loads
[10:40] <bigcalm> davmor2: Michael McIntire fan much?
[10:41] <davmor2> bigcalm: maybe, I might have lots of stand up dvds
[10:42] <davmor2> bigcalm: Like all of eddie izzards, lots of bill bailey, franky boile etc etc etc
[10:43] <davmor2> boyle even
[10:45] <bigcalm> Only mentioned him because that's a quote of his - though he may have taken it from somebody else
[10:45] <zmoylan-pi> obligatory frankie boyle richard hammond joke... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5eUpF3iQQ
[10:55] <ujjain> haha gazeboed
[10:58] <davmor2> ujjain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2hyB_Eg6q8
[11:10] <diplo> Is there a way of removing chmod access to a user, my google fu is failing at the mo but still trying :)
[11:11] <popey> for their own files?
[11:11] <diplo> Yup
[11:11] <popey> why?
[11:12] <popey> seems like it would break things
[11:12] <diplo> Have an issue with people 777ing files
[11:12] <popey> so tell them
[11:12] <popey> you're trying to fix a meatspace problem with a technical solution
[11:12] <diplo> heh, I know right, simple
[11:12] <popey> educate them
[11:12] <diplo> Exactly my response
[11:12] <popey> scan the filesystem for 777 files and email them and their line manager when they screw up
[11:12] <diplo> I've tried, management suck at my place
[11:12] <popey> implement policy
[11:13] <popey> remove their shell access if they do it again
[11:13] <diplo> But as they are logging in as one user I can't say who it was
[11:13] <popey> oh dear
[11:13] <popey> fix that :)
[11:13] <diplo> Basically we have customer servers, we remote in as 1 user
[11:13] <popey> yeah, we have had that, we added a gateway box in the middle which they had to ssh through
[11:14] <popey> using their own account
[11:14] <popey> so we could see who went through the box
[11:14] <diplo> Rather than fix an issue correctly they just 777, just trying to work out a way of eithe rlogging it or removing access to them doing it
[11:14] <popey> i dont think thats a solution
[11:14] <diplo> I totally agree with what you're saying, it's just falling on deaf ears
[11:14] <popey> yeah
[11:14] <diplo> I'm trying to improve my problems
[11:14] <popey> i think you'd break stuff if you remove access to chmod
[11:14] <diplo> I don't either, but all the systems run as this user for our app
[11:14] <diplo> That's what I wanted to test :D
[11:15] <diplo> I'd rather deal with the problem people myself
[11:16] <diplo> I'm pretty sure I know who the few offenders are, I guess another way is to log access times on customer servers and log connections from our server and match them up so I have proof
[11:16] <diplo> Biggest problem working at a company who have staff who have worked since Assembly days of the software
[11:17] <diplo> I mean we're still running CentOS 4.8 on a huge amount of servers, we still have Redhat 8 boxes and SCO boxes, it's not just staff but customers too
[11:17] <popey> scan file permissions each day in a cron job - email you when one changes to 777 :)
[11:17] <diplo> All I ever want to do is bang my head on the table :/
[11:17] <diplo> I guess that's a good start yeah
[11:18] <bashrc> is that what sysadmins do all day?
[11:18] <diplo> Bang their heads on tables ?
[11:18] <bashrc> yes
[11:18] <diplo> It feels like it :)
[11:18] <bashrc> :)
[11:18] <popey> happy sysadmin day btw ;)
[11:19] <diplo> I'm implementing ansible currently locally, but got to get it okayed before I start deploying it
[11:19] <diplo> Oh that's today ?
[11:19] <bashrc> rather like being a developer, people only tend to contact you when something has gone wrong
[11:19] <diplo> I'm *supposed* to be a developer now adays
[11:20] <diplo> I haven't done any coding for maybe 6-8 weeks, fixing other issues
[11:21] <diplo> Our code is archaic, it doesn't conform to standards.. basically I'm trying to trace all the issues, propose fixes to stop Support calls
[11:23] <bashrc> maybe the problem is archaic code isn't worth maintaining, or costs more than rewriting it
[11:25] <diplo> yeah we're re-writing it currently, probably 30% in and being used
[11:27] <diplo> I'm just installing CentOS 4.8 in a VM to write a document about how to extend LVM / partition as no clear plans on installation / setup
[11:27] <diplo> Did it on 6 and wrote documentation, but 4.8 has an older kernel and doesn't allow resize2fs to work the same way etc
[11:27] <diplo> Sooooo much fun :(
[12:02] <Myrtti> Exploding Kittens!
[12:03] <bigcalm> Pfft, that was so 9am :P
[12:07] <popey> hah
[12:14] <Myrtti> ever so sorry I live in the middle of nowhere ;____;
[12:17] <zmoylan-pi> no public transport to geet you to centre of wherever?
[12:17] <Myrtti> it's hardly the lack of public transport that makes the mailman come to our door with our copy of 'Kittens at 1300
[12:18] <zmoylan-pi> that happens in cities too, at least in ireland
[13:02] <diddledan> and yeah. so talking in a dead channel doesn't get many responses :-p
[13:03] <diddledan> fyi, #ubuntu-podcast is quiet
[13:03] <diddledan> my virgin is dead
[13:03] <diddledan> I think it was a sacrifice
[13:03] <zmoylan-pi> so no volcanos for a while at least
[13:37] <awilkins> New detail about that XPoint RAM stuff : http://www.computerworld.com/article/2954492/computer-hardware/that-new-3d-xpoint-memory-could-last-forever.html
[13:37] <awilkins> Apparently will cost more than DRAM (but that was obvious, even if it doesn't cost more to make, they're going to claim it does so they can price it more than NAND)
[13:37] <awilkins> Sorry, cost more than NAND
[13:38] <awilkins> I reckon it would make a great cache layer on spinning rust disks
[13:38] <awilkins> If it has that kind of longevity you wouldn't need to worry too hard about it expiring
[13:39] <awilkins> And I infer it doesn't have the same "page flash" mechanism of wiping, so it's write performance should be really good too.
[13:41] <daftykins> well from the other article it sounds like it'd be higher density so could just outright replace the lot
[13:41] <awilkins> Not as fast as DRAM
[13:41] <awilkins> And apparently not as good for density as stacked NAND - yet
[13:42] <daftykins> probably haven't done it in 3D yet
[13:42] <awilkins> Naah, it's 3D, they make a big thing of the 3D in the promo vid
[13:43] <daftykins> ah
[13:43] <awilkins> You can use one set of addressing wires to address two layers
[13:43] <awilkins> Well, one half a set
[13:44] <awilkins> INitial builds are apparently 128Gbit dies, that's a 2-layer
[13:44] <awilkins> Sounds like they have room at the bottom for the feature scaling and they can add layers
[13:45] <daftykins> yeah that's slower though
[16:52] <foobarry> anyone tried the talktalk family filter thing?
[16:52] <foobarry> does it block the whole of reddit or just certain sub reddits?
[18:27] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qtgij96saw40fb/IMG_20150731_192455.jpg?dl=0
[18:27] <daftykins> that thar xbox one streaming
[19:47] <shauno> it seems my microserver is probably in callais somewhere :(
[19:49] <daftykins> pesky French
[19:49] <daftykins> where on earth did you order from o0
[19:49] <shauno> amazon  lol
[19:49] <shauno> it went from spain to france, and now it has an "emergency" exception
[20:04] <foobarry> because of the blockades
[20:07] <foobarry> can non truckers get to france on eurotunnel too?
[20:07] <foobarry> have lego always done minecraft, or is it new?
[20:09] <MartijnVdS> I've installed *gasp* Debian on my main desktop
[20:11] <foobarry> gaspbian
[20:12] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: why on earth!? :)
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I had it on my laptop already.. Jessie + some bits of Sid
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> it's quite good actuallyt
[20:16] <daftykins> i'm enjoying win10...
[20:16] <daftykins> :D
[21:06]  * diddledan wakes up
[21:06] <diddledan> my virgin resurrected herself while I was napping
[21:07] <mgdm> o_O
[21:08] <diddledan> mgdm: virgin broadband
[21:09] <diddledan> mgdm: my virgin was sacrificed earlier today and now it's alive again
[21:09] <mgdm> heh heh
[22:51] <Laney> speaking of virgin
[22:51] <Laney> my connection is somewhat knackered atm
[22:51] <diddledan> grr
[22:51] <Laney> new outbound connections often fail to establish
[22:51] <Laney> anyone else having this?
[22:52] <diddledan> I had trouble getting mysql downloaded earlier
[22:52] <Laney> like: http://paste.debian.net/287985/
[22:52] <Laney> run that
[22:52] <Laney> see if you get to 50
[22:53] <diddledan> I've got to 9 instantly and now it seems hunged
[22:54] <Laney> ruddy virgin
[22:54] <Laney> what are they playing at?
[22:54] <StevenR> Laney: I've noticed that they've been sucky over the last week or so
[22:55] <diddledan> ooh it just moved onto 27
[22:55] <Laney> I only noticed it today
[22:59] <diddledan> 43
[23:04] <diddledan> and finished
[23:15] <Myrtti> https://imgur.com/gallery/SeFWcO9 noticed this on BBC earlier today, surprised nobody else imgurified it yet so I did. https://imgur.com/gallery/SeFWcO9 Babby white lion cubs
[23:15] <Myrtti> oh.
[23:15] <Myrtti> double linkage
[23:22] <m0nkey_> they're like puppies!