[06:08] <Kilos> morning GnikLlort and lurkers
[06:08] <GnikLlort> Morning :)
[06:08] <Kilos> :)
[06:39] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:39] <mazal> Freekin freezing :(
[06:43] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:43] <pieter2627> nice and cold morning
[06:43] <Kilos> pietie o/
[06:43] <Kilos> very
[06:43] <Kilos> ice outside
[06:44] <pieter2627> and inside :P
[06:44] <Kilos> lol only windows frosted up
[06:45] <Kilos> poor goosie must have frozen on the bike this morning
[06:45] <mazal> When I open the fridze warm air comes out :P
[06:45] <Kilos> haha
[06:47] <mazal> My update notifier is still broken :( And don't know why
[06:47] <Kilos> oh my
[06:48] <mazal> google was no help
[06:48] <Kilos> you got synaptic hey?
[06:48] <mazal> Oom Kilos you know that little blue icon that pops up at the bottom of the tray ? Mine is more than a week now not doing it anymore
[06:49] <mazal> Now I have to keep doing manual
[06:49] <Kilos> the left corner one?
[06:49] <mazal> right corner where all the tray icons and notifications are
[06:50] <mazal> It only pops up when updates available to notify
[06:50] <Kilos> the panel tool box button
[06:50] <Kilos> oh 
[06:50] <mazal> I think it's called update notifier , but not sure
[06:50] <Kilos> did you answer if you got synaptic?
[06:50] <mazal> Yeah but that's irrelevant
[06:50] <Kilos> mine only shows when there are updates
[06:51] <Kilos> no mman
[06:51] <mazal> I don't have a problem updating , is only the notifier that don't notify anymore
[06:51] <Kilos> just try my fixit ways
[06:51] <Kilos> open synaptic
[06:51] <Kilos> type inypdate
[06:52] <Kilos> type in update
[06:52] <mazal> Both those
[06:52] <mazal> or just update
[06:52] <Kilos> lol
[06:52] <Kilos> first one was a typo man
[06:53] <mazal> That tells me that muon-notifier is installed
[06:53] <mazal> re-install ?
[06:53] <Kilos> now start at the top of the list and right click reinstall eveything that shows as installed
[06:54] <Kilos> when thats done type in kubuntu-desktop and do same
[06:54] <Kilos> then feedback
[06:55] <mazal> done
[06:55] <mazal> feedback will have to wait though , already did updates manually
[06:55] <mazal> So will see next week
[06:55] <Kilos> ok
[06:56] <Kilos> i moften find synaptic finds small updates on many of the packages thatare installed
[06:56] <Kilos> didnt yours download stuff?
[06:57] <mazal> 2 small ones yes
[06:58] <Kilos> synaptic lekker for me , i tick reload, mark all upgrades and tick apply
[06:58] <Kilos> and it does the work
[06:58] <Kilos> even kernels
[06:58] <mazal> mark all upgrades >
[06:58] <mazal> ?
[06:58] <Kilos> ai!
[06:59] <mazal> Is that in a different menu ?
[06:59] <Kilos> near reload is mark all upgrades button
[06:59] <mazal> staaadig oor die klippe , dis koud !!!
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <mazal> So oom does that to actually do updates ?
[07:00] <Kilos> right next to reload button is the mark all upgrades button
[07:00] <Kilos> yes it does all that apt-get does and more
[07:01] <mazal> My "apply" stays greyd out , but that's probably cos there isn't updates now
[07:02] <Kilos> yes
[07:15] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:22] <mazal> morning inetpro
[07:22] <mazal> You mos also a KDE man ?
[07:46] <inetpro> mazal: hi
[07:46]  * inetpro has no troubles with kde
[07:47] <inetpro> but I prefer the cli above anything else
[07:47] <mazal> inetpro: Do you perhaps know what could be the cause that my update notifier doesn't work ?
[07:47] <inetpro> kde is just there for some convenience
[07:48] <inetpro> mazal: $ lsb_release -a
[07:48] <inetpro> in other words, what release?
[07:50] <Squirm> Morning people on za
[07:50] <Squirm> of*
[07:50] <inetpro> hi Squirm
[07:50]  * inetpro still running an older Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS at the office
[07:50] <mazal> 14.04.01
[07:50] <mazal> 64bit
[07:50] <mazal> Hi Squirm
[07:51] <inetpro> mazal:  $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -dy dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:52] <inetpro> should take it to 14.04.2
[07:53] <mazal> Are we on .2 already ? , then mine is .2 also
[07:53] <inetpro> ai!
[07:53] <inetpro> 07/31 09:48:23 <inetpro> mazal: $ lsb_release -a
[07:54] <mazal> 14.04.2
[07:54] <inetpro> ok... what does ask ubuntu tell you?
[07:54] <mazal> about the notifier ?
[07:55] <inetpro> https://www.google.com/search?q=ask+ubuntu+kubuntu+update+notifier
[07:56] <mazal> I already checked most of those , didn't help
[08:09] <inetpro> mazal: on 12.04 I can still do the following to change update manager settings: $ kdesudo software-properties-kde
[08:09] <inetpro> not sure whether that works for 14.04
[08:13] <inetpro> should be the ame as what you get when going to Muon Update Manager | Settings | Configure Sources
[08:13] <inetpro> should be the same as*
[08:29] <gremble> I cannot deal with this ice-wind
[08:30] <gremble> It cuts straight through my clothes
[09:14] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[09:26] <Kilos> sorry, power cut
[09:27] <Kilos> hello gremble superfly ThatGraemeGuy too
[09:27] <superfly> Hi Kilos
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[09:28] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[09:28] <gremble> hey superfly ThatGraemeGuy 
[10:11] <Kilos> ai! now just been fighting veldt fire
[10:11] <Kilos> what a day
[10:17] <gremble> Who won?
[10:18] <Kilos> well duh! im here aint i
[10:19] <gremble> It could just be a tactical retreat
[10:19] <Kilos> rofl
[10:19] <Kilos> no all killed
[10:19] <Kilos> i never leave a fire till its completely save to do so
[10:20] <Kilos> maybe years of working on farms teaches you
[10:20] <gremble> Since the 2013 fire, there is nothing left here to actually burn
[10:20] <gremble> haha
[10:20] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:20] <gremble> The trees that caused the havoc never recovered
[10:20] <Kilos> ah
[10:21] <gremble> Now it is just lantanas
[10:21] <gremble> but theyr'e really difficult to get rid of
[10:21] <Kilos> yes
[10:22] <Kilos> try cutting plant short then pore lotsa dieasel on the stump and tel it soak in to the roots
[10:22] <Kilos> or dig up all roots
[10:22] <Kilos> whew
[10:23] <Kilos> diesel
[10:23] <gremble> Diesel would poison the ground and digging is not really easy in the mountain. Too much rocks. 
[10:23] <gremble> In the garden I usually try to dig them out
[10:23] <Kilos> diesel actually dilutes and washes away
[10:24] <gremble> Oh my the lantana we get here kill sheep :c
[10:25] <Kilos> sjoe poisonous?
[10:26] <Kilos> i dont know enough about it other than its a pest
[10:26] <gremble> Yup. They cause liver damage
[10:26] <gremble> It's poisonous
[10:28] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:41] <mazal> inetpro: Sorry , then power failure happened , then work happened , then lunch happened
[12:08] <inetpro> mazal: no problemo
[12:14] <mazal> I was still busy making a screenshot for you when the power decided it's time to let go
[13:13] <Kilos> ek gaan bietjie slaap
[13:18] <Squirm> Oh - Happy syadmin day to all!
[13:19] <Squirm> sysadmin even
[13:25] <Cryterion> There's a sysadmin day?
[13:27] <Squirm> Cryterion: not many people care to know about it :/
[13:27] <Squirm> Last Friday in July
[13:28] <gremble> http://listen.hatnote.com/#en This is pretty trippy (makes sounds obv)
[13:28] <Cryterion> Ah :) their problem if they don't want to
[13:28] <gremble> Happy sysadmin day Squirm, assuming that you are one :P
[13:28] <Cryterion> Blue moon tonight as well btw
[14:06] <Squirm> gremble: almost, but not quite
[16:18] <Kilos> debs send best regard to all that know her
[16:18] <Kilos> regards
[16:19] <Kilos> oh only fly, pro,and crashkid
[16:19] <Kilos> and nuvolari 
[16:20] <Kilos> and i think Squirm was around at the time
[17:35] <Kilos> oh my tonight 2°c colder than last night
[17:36] <superfly> It was really cold this morning 
[17:37] <Kilos> eish
[17:38] <superfly> It's going to be 7 tonight here 
[17:38] <superfly> Not bad 
[17:39] <Kilos> ill shows you here this morning
[17:39] <superfly> Kilos: have you got enough warm stuff? 
[17:39] <Kilos> under a leaking water tank
[17:39] <Kilos> yeah ty , in bed is good
[17:39] <Kilos> hehe
[17:39] <superfly> Yeah, need works well here too
[17:40] <superfly> *bed
[17:40] <Kilos> lol
[17:42] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/2nghjN47.jpg
[17:43] <Kilos> excuse the mess there, thats near our burning area
[17:43] <Kilos> but thats at 8am this morning
[17:49] <superfly> Eish
[17:49] <superfly> That's cold 
[17:50] <Kilos> very
[17:51] <Kilos> superfly  can i ask you to speak to someone at the local lug there and ask then to join africa please
[17:51] <Kilos> no rush of course
[17:51] <Kilos> someone here is in jozilug too i will ask him
[17:52] <Kilos> oh kulule i think
[17:52] <superfly> Kilos I'll mention of on the mailing list, but the LUG folks here are not really into the LoCo 
[17:52] <Kilos> superfly  i would like them to join so it shows on the wiki page to encourage the other african lugs
[17:53] <Kilos> we have to lead the way i think
[17:54] <Kilos> ubuntu-africa is now going to outgrow lugs and locos hopefully
[17:55] <Kilos> only lug guy i got to know a bit better was froztyza
[17:55] <Kilos> imo its all about standing strong together as linux users
[17:56] <Kilos> oh yes and theres william but he is like us
[17:56] <Kilos> nice friendly peeps hehe
[17:57] <Kilos> inetpro  talk quick man before load shedding sends me to bed
[17:58] <inetpro> good evening
[17:58] <Kilos> hi my pro
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: NO LOAD SHEDDING 
[17:58] <Kilos> w000t
[17:59] <inetpro> what made you think there was?
[17:59] <Kilos> well been every friday night for weeks
[17:59] <Kilos> even sis said go make tea quick
[17:59] <Kilos> and get candles hehe
[17:59] <inetpro> uh... always check
[18:00] <inetpro> http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/
[18:00] <Kilos> i wish my pc could run on candles power
[18:00] <inetpro> be an informed citizen, go find out
[18:00] <Kilos> very busy mostly man
[18:00] <inetpro> ai!
[18:01] <Kilos> hard morning then fires then sleep then chat my girls
[18:01] <Kilos> i cant multitask like you guys
[18:02] <Kilos> and Guest20640 still here , just swops nick now and again
[18:02] <Kilos> grrrr
[18:02] <inetpro> we should really find a simple feed to tell us when loadshedding has started and when it has ended right here
[18:02] <Kilos> yeah
[18:02] <inetpro> Maaz: list feeds
[18:02] <Maaz> inetpro: I know about: CricInfo, Eighty20 and Hayibo
[18:02] <inetpro> see, he can read feeds
[18:02] <Kilos> but once in bed from 8 to 10 makes it hard to get up again
[18:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:03] <inetpro> Maaz: help feeds
[18:03] <Maaz> inetpro: Displays articles from RSS and Atom feeds. You can use it like this:
[18:03] <Maaz>   add feed <url> as <name>
[18:03] <Maaz>   remove <name> feed
[18:03] <Maaz>   list feeds
[18:03] <Maaz>   poll <name> feed notify <channel> on <source>
[18:03] <Maaz>   stop polling <name> feed
[18:03] <Maaz>   latest [ <count> ] articles from <name> [ starting at <number> ]
[18:03] <Maaz>   article ( <number> | /<pattern>/ ) from <name>
[18:05] <inetpro> Maaz: latest 1 article from Cricinfo
[18:05] <Maaz> inetpro: Excuse me?
[18:05] <inetpro> Maaz: latest 1 articles from Cricinfo
[18:05] <Maaz> inetpro: 1: "India A 135/10 & 267/6 * v Australia A 349/10"
[18:05] <Kilos> lol
[18:06] <Kilos> teach the lady bot too
[18:06] <Kilos> inetpro  you a man of influence
[18:07] <Kilos> please talk to some lugs about joining africa
[18:08] <Kilos> waits for ai!
[18:08] <inetpro> ai!
[18:08] <Kilos> oh you and fly
[18:08] <Kilos> debs says ty for looking after me
[18:10] <inetpro> Kilos: big pleasure sir, send regards from this side as well
[18:10] <Kilos> ty very much
[18:11] <Kilos> she has 3 vertebra already solidly fused from the ankylosing spondilitus
[18:11] <Kilos> so was forced to stop working
[18:11] <Kilos> but gvt paying her and paying tara to look after her so they good atm
[18:11] <inetpro> what!?
[18:12] <Kilos> what?
[18:12] <Kilos> Maaz  google ankylosing spondilitus
[18:12] <inetpro> wth is ankylosing spondilitus?
[18:12] <Maaz> Kilos: "About Ankylosing Spondylitis - Spondylitis Association of America" http://www.spondylitis.org/about/as.aspx :: "Ankylosing spondylitis - Mayo Clinic" http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ankylosing-spondylitis/basics/definition/con-20019766 :: "Ankylosing spondylitis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
[18:12] <Maaz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankylosing_spondylitis :: "Ankylosing Spondylitis: Pain, Symptoms, Treatments, Causes, and ..." http://ww…
[18:12] <Kilos> bad disease
[18:12] <Kilos> fuses spine
[18:13] <Kilos> and the meds are bad regards side effects
[18:13] <Kilos> no immune system if you take them
[18:13] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:13] <Kilos> ya sad
[18:14] <Kilos> not a good disease for a nurse to have
[18:14] <inetpro> Squirm: thanks for mentioning ansible the other day
[18:15]  * inetpro been doing some research and played a bit... this thing can makes life so much easier
[18:17] <Kilos> what must i enable to a gmail account to let it allows the xperia to use the playstore?
[18:18] <inetpro> nothing
[18:18] <Kilos> ai!
[18:21] <inetpro> contact Sony support team
[18:22] <Kilos> ok ty
[18:22] <inetpro> :-)
[18:22] <inetpro> no man... 
[18:22] <Kilos> thing drives me nuts
[18:22] <Kilos> ?
[18:23] <inetpro> have you tried googling?
[18:23] <Kilos> i enter same password and everything but gmil blocks it
[18:23] <Kilos> i dunno
[18:23] <Kilos> been fiddling on and foff since i got it
[18:24] <Kilos> will read the xperia guide again
[18:24] <inetpro> http://community.sony.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet/play-store-stopped-working/td-p/52887
[18:24] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[18:31] <Kilos> ai! 
[18:31] <Kilos> horrible android things
[18:31] <Kilos> alien tech
[18:35] <inetpro> you found something better yet?
[18:35] <Kilos> im looking
[18:35] <inetpro> good luck!
[18:35] <Kilos> http://androidforums.com/threads/i-cant-acces-app-store-the-white-shopping-bag-thingy.537733/
[18:35] <Kilos> ty
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: I mean good luck with finding something better than the horrible android thing
[18:36] <Kilos> rofl
[18:38] <inetpro> maybe one day Ubuntu Phone will be good enough for all the basics but I'm afarid we're not quite there yet
[18:39] <inetpro> getting there fast but still at a rather slow pace
[18:39] <Kilos> it doesnt even show playstore anywhere in setting
[18:39] <Kilos> just play now with uninstall option only
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: is it a tablet?
[18:40] <Kilos> no old cell mini pro
[18:40] <inetpro> model?
[18:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:41] <Kilos> sme funny number
[18:41] <Kilos> U20i
[18:43] <inetpro> Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 mini pro
[18:43] <Kilos> http://www.askmefast.com/About_play_store_download_in_sony_xperia_u20i-qna5699549.html
[18:43] <Kilos> maybe it needs to be downloaded and installed
[18:43] <Kilos> sigh
[18:46] <Kilos> and everytime i switch from pc to fone i gotta change glasses , then forget to change back
[18:46] <Kilos> grrrr
[18:56] <Kilos> in that you go settings/applications/manage apps then choose all
[18:56] <Kilos> mine doesnt show all
[18:56] <Kilos> grrr
[18:56] <inetpro> get a decent phone man
[18:57] <inetpro> only R8000 or so
[18:57] <Kilos> eish
[18:57] <inetpro> :-P
[18:57] <Kilos> i must ask for a ubuntu fone
[18:57] <Kilos> im sure it will be easier
[18:58] <Kilos> does it also use a playstore 
[19:01] <inetpro> Ubuntu Phone review: years in the making, but still not consumer-ready http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/24/ubuntu-phone-review/
[19:01] <Kilos> ai!
[19:26] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight