[00:00] <urkengurken> and messing with bios
[00:00] <daftykins> urkengurken: EFI ones. go check out your EFI.
[00:00] <urkengurken> UEFI Device Config?
[00:00] <daftykins> overflyer: "ip route" report your correct router IP? ("default via x.x.x.x") ?
[00:00] <mancomunado> >"This archive contains archive entries with absolute paths, which are not yet supported by ark." - Recommend me some Zip software.
[00:00] <daftykins> unzip.
[00:01] <easyOnMe> G0: right click on the terminal and choose paste that is how you paste on the terminal
[00:01] <urkengurken> ok bot options
[00:01] <urkengurken> *boot
[00:01] <easyOnMe> that is the common procedure so far I have yet to know how to do it using key board shortcut
[00:01] <wileee> !uefi | urkengurken
[00:01] <G0> @easyOnMe without the mouse
[00:01] <overflyer> its saying default via 192.168.2.1 dev wlan0 \ 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0 scope link metric 1000 \ 192.168.2.0/24 wlan0 proto kernel scope link 192.168.2.191
[00:02] <overflyer> so yes i think its repourting to my router correctly
[00:02] <daftykins> overflyer: 169.254.x.x - that shows that your wifi link has failed as it has given itself an APIPA address.
[00:02] <overflyer> so since i only got low-medium linux skills. whats the matter here? how to fix it?
[00:03] <daftykins> well first off, why are you connecting to wifi headless?
[00:03] <urkengurken> ok my bios version is  f.14
[00:03] <urkengurken> now what
[00:03] <overflyer> because hardware wise at the moment its my only options... no more LAN ports on the router
[00:03] <Voyage> how to play hevc based videos on ubuntu?
[00:03] <daftykins> urkengurken: i already told you what to do, look up if there's a newer version
[00:04] <urkengurken> k
[00:04] <easyOnMe> what is lxc can anyone please help me on it
[00:04] <daftykins> Voyage: you'll need a fast CPU.
[00:04] <joujou> Hi guys, now I have another problem: ubuntu does not detect the wifi card. I've downloaded linux firmware non-free and installed it with dpkg, but no good. Any idea?
[00:04] <daftykins> joujou: identify it first. "lspci" for PCI cards and "lsusb" for usb devices
[00:04] <Voyage> daftykins,  but first I would need a player support. Vlc cant play it it seems
[00:05] <daftykins> Voyage: maybe not new enough, what's the source?
[00:06] <sonicx> hi anyone know  kubunto? I need help fixing the windows lay out like buttons and then next upgradeing  it to 15.04
[00:06] <overflyer> daftykins ur still with me?
[00:06] <joujou> daftykins: lspci give me network controller broadcom corporation bcm4312, is it that?
[00:06] <daftykins> overflyer: i'm more asking why you're running it command line only with wifi :P
[00:07] <daftykins> joujou: yep
[00:07] <wileee> sonicx, What is the release now?
[00:07] <daftykins> !broadcom | joujou read up here
[00:07] <overflyer> because its a server i dont wanna install a gui
[00:08] <easyOnMe> daftykins: how do I create a new user on my ubuntu laptop that is not allowed to perform sudo commands so that when I run scripts it won't mess up my laptop this is what the people in #bash channel wanted me to ask here
[00:08] <easyOnMe> according to them that is the solution to my needs
[00:08] <urkengurker> ok im back
[00:08] <zykotick9> overflyer: i'd suggest wicd-curses myself... YMMV good luck.
[00:09] <urkengurker> may you please send me the instructions again?
[00:09] <daftykins> easyOnMe: go to settings, users, create one that isn't an admin.
[00:09] <Voyage> daftykins,  video is hevc 265 and vlc I have is 2.1.6
[00:09] <daftykins> !manual | easyOnMe please seek common simple answers here in future
[00:09] <joujou> ubottu: cheers, I'm giving it a read
[00:09] <sonicx> one sec
[00:09] <daftykins> Voyage: alright, well you'll need to look up whether that version is capable.
[00:09] <easyOnMe> daftykins: ok thanks
[00:09] <overflyer> zykotick9 ... what is wics-curses?
[00:10] <G0> Hi
[00:10] <zykotick9> overflyer: it's a curses (terminal based) network manager
[00:10] <sonicx> Kdelibs version 4.13.3
[00:10] <sonicx> 32bit
[00:10] <wileee> sonicx, 14.04, 14.10?
[00:10] <urkengurker> daftykins: may you please send me the instructions again, I'm on another computer
[00:10] <Voyage> daftykins,  thats why I asked to know which players are compatible. VLC seems not to be
[00:10] <sonicx> 14.04
[00:10] <overflyer> so daftykins... you got any clue why link fails? zykotick9 so will that console based networkmanager interfere with my already set up wpsa_supplicant and interfaces config?
[00:11] <daftykins> urkengurker: nope.
[00:11] <urkengurker> ?
[00:11] <urkengurker> why not?
[00:11] <daftykins> overflyer: the IP on your interface is an APIPA address, it didn't find a DHCP server which suggests your wireless connection isn't actually working.
[00:11] <zykotick9> overflyer: possibly...
[00:11] <urkengurker> seriously
[00:12] <daftykins> overflyer: try forcing it with e.g. "sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.200 netmask 255.255.255.0"
[00:12] <overflyer> u got an idea what part or configfile(line) i needs fixing?
[00:12] <overflyer> ah ok
[00:12] <wileee> sonicx, Note my message starts with your nick, that is how you know I'm addressing you. You will have to upgrade through a eol to get to 15.04 that is a short support release. The other issues describe for help is all.
[00:12] <daftykins> overflyer: well i can't see your config from here
[00:12] <daftykins> overflyer: ah hang on i got the number wrong
[00:13] <urkengurker> was it.? check bios version, clear all keys?
[00:13] <daftykins> overflyer: try forcing it with e.g. "sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.200 netmask 255.255.255.0"
[00:13] <urkengurker> what was after
[00:13] <sonicx> so don't upgrade?
[00:14] <joujou> So, I found out what chipset it was, downloaded fwcutter .deb and installed it but it still does not detect the wifi card. Ideas?
[00:14] <wileee> sonicx, you talking to me?
[00:14] <daftykins> joujou: rebooted?
[00:15] <joujou> daftykins: I'll try and report
[00:15] <overflyer> now ip route only returns 192.168.2.0/64 dev wlan0 proto kernel link src 192.168.2.200 which is a good thing right since no more APIPA address. however apt-get update still wont work
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[00:16] <daftykins> overflyer: start simple. try "ping 192.168.2.1" if that's your router's IP. (is it?) use ctrl+C to stop
[00:16] <wileee> sonicx, you can tab complete nicks, upgrade but be informed of what it entails, is my point only. If you did not understand just ask, no biggie.
[00:16] <G0> Someone speaks portuguese ?
[00:16] <urkengurken> My hp envy m4 1015dx won't boot the cd, it has something like "efi won't load" and then whenever i try to install ubuntu it won't install
[00:16] <overflyer> router gets pinged successfuly !!! :)
[00:16] <Voyage> how to play hevc based videos on ubuntu?
[00:16] <urkengurken> it just makes a loud fan noise and shuts my computer down
[00:17] <daftykins> !pt | G0
[00:17] <urkengurken> ?
[00:17] <G0> !pt
[00:17] <G0> Sorry
[00:17] <daftykins> overflyer: definitely replies with millisecond values attached and not failure messages yeah?
[00:18] <wileee> urkengurken, free volunteer help, have some patience and read links given you.
[00:18] <daftykins> urkengurken: already told you what to do.
[00:18] <urkengurken> I know
[00:18] <urkengurken> I switched to another computer
[00:18] <urkengurken> i need someone to co-py and paste the instructions again
[00:18] <overflyer> 64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=2.37ms  ...for example
[00:19] <sonicx> ok ? how do I fix the windows lay out like the "x" button to close and so on
[00:19] <sonicx> wileee; sorry keep forgeting to add your name
[00:19] <daftykins> overflyer: you got anything to take a picture with?
[00:19] <daftykins> urkengurken: write them down in future. so, any BIOS updates?
[00:20] <overflyer> a smartphone yes. why. how to send a picture in irc? O.o
[00:20] <urkengurken> daftykins: I'm not sure how to check that
[00:20] <daftykins> overflyer: throw it on imgur.com then link me here, what i'd like to see is the output of "route -n"
[00:20] <urkengurken> daftykins: don't worry ill figure it out and come back
[00:20] <daftykins> urkengurken: yeah that was the plan
[00:20] <wileee> sonicx, I have not used kubuntu is all so not sure. But be as clear as possible, maybe an image of it and a url where you load it to would help the description.
[00:21] <sonicx> wileee:umm how do i do that?
[00:21] <wileee> !pastebin | sonicx look at imagebin info
[00:22] <overflyer> Destination: 192.168.2.0     Gateway: 0.0.0.0        Genmask: 255.255.255.0         Flags: U        Metric: 0        Ref: 0      Use:0        Iface:wlan0
[00:22] <overflyer> no pic needed ;)
[00:22] <overflyer> gateway looks bad
[00:22] <wileee> sonicx, YOU have a prtsc key, I would assume kubuntu has an image app as well.
[00:22] <daftykins> overflyer: hmm would've been preferred. yeah you've got no gateway
[00:22] <daftykins> overflyer: route add default gw 192.168.2.1
[00:22] <sonicx> ok one sec
[00:22] <daftykins> ^with sudio
[00:22] <daftykins> *sudo
[00:23] <overflyer> it was definitely added in interfaces...very strange. wait a sec ill do your command
[00:23] <wileee> sonicx, I doubt I can help, so just do this to the channel, if I see something I will let you know. ;)
[00:23] <overflyer> ok done. now what?
[00:24] <overflyer> still no internet connectivity. route-n now returns two lines
[00:24] <overflyer> ill upload pc to imgur
[00:24] <overflyer> pic
[00:24] <urkengurken> ok im stumped
[00:24] <urkengurken> what is "flashing a bios" do i need to do that?
[00:26] <daftykins> overflyer: should have 'UG' beside 192.168.2.1
[00:26] <urkengurken> ok i think it has to be updated to f.20
[00:26] <urkengurken> its f.14 rn
[00:26] <overflyer> http://imgur.com/hMWRC2N
[00:27] <daftykins> overflyer: maybe you're just lacking DNS now. put "nameserver 192.168.2.1" into /etc/resolv.conf
[00:27] <overflyer> it does but destination and genmask are 0 now
[00:27] <meLon> I do not have a `/etc/X11/xorg.conf` file.  Is it possible to generate this with my current settings?
[00:28] <overflyer> i put it in resolv.conf with the quotes "" ?
[00:28] <sonicx> sorry hard to use it this way
[00:28] <daftykins> overflyer: without
[00:28] <daftykins> overflyer: you can confirm DNS by getting IPs back from "nslookup ubuntu.com"
[00:28] <overflyer> done! is a reboot neccessary now?
[00:29] <overflyer> i get ip from ubuntu.com now and it is working
[00:29] <overflyer> OMG your my HERO!!!!!! THX!!!!
[00:30] <overflyer> will those configurations stay fixed now and next reboot my internet connection still works?
[00:30] <urkengurken> ok daftykins, i really confused, how do i check if i need to update it
[00:31] <daftykins> overflyer: nope, install the package "pastebinit" and share your /etc/network/interfaces - i suspect something's wrong
[00:31] <skinny> hola
[00:31] <skinny> como puedo unirme a un chanel en espanol
[00:31] <wileee> !es
[00:32] <urkengurken> so...
[00:33] <overflyer> quick tutorial in how to use pastebinit please
[00:33] <sonicx> ok sorry here u go  imgur.com/i3pMahf
[00:34] <prsn> hi! i'm running into a weird issue trying to install docker: http://pastie.org/10321148
[00:34] <easyOnMe> wileee: I just created a new user how can I verify that this new user has indeed no sudo privileges
[00:34] <prsn> basically, apt-get install succeeds, but then when i try to run it ubuntu says it's not installed and i should apt-get install it
[00:35] <daftykins> overflyer: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[00:35] <wileee> easyOnMe, In the user app?
[00:36] <squinty> !pastebin | squinty
[00:36] <easyOnMe> wileee: like how
[00:36] <nicomachus> prsn: the installation is a bit more involved: https://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#for-trusty-14-04
[00:36] <daftykins> prsn: no you just don't run it that way
[00:36] <overflyer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11970398
[00:36] <G0> Hey, what's the mostly productive programming language ?
[00:36] <skinny> prefiero estar aqui alli nadie habla practicare me english
[00:36] <prsn> ah, thanks
[00:36] <nicomachus> sorry prsn, this link: https://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#installation
[00:36] <wileee> easyOnMe, NOt sure from a terminal, the app allows a non administer account
[00:36] <easyOnMe> wileee: oh ok
[00:37] <daftykins> overflyer: hrmm i don't know what's wrong with that, not done pure CLI wireless before
[00:37] <prsn> i didn't expect '$ docker' to do anything, but i thought it would at least pring some help or something
[00:37] <wileee> easyOnMe, I don't know the cli check ia all.
[00:37] <easyOnMe> wileee: no problem thank
[00:37] <easyOnMe> thanks
[00:37] <G0> @Skinny Italiano ?
[00:38] <nicomachus> G0: try #programming
[00:38] <urkengurken> daftykins: I think i have to upgrade my bios to f.20
[00:38] <G0> Thx :D
[00:38] <sonicx> wileee:ok sorry here u go  imgur.com/i3pMahf
[00:39] <daftykins> urkengurken: 'think' ?
[00:39] <overflyer> well what did you suspect to be wrong... at the moment i got internetconnectivity. just tested wget an ubuntu image and i got a very high speed also
[00:39] <zair> hola ay alguien que able español
[00:40] <skinny> si
[00:40] <overflyer> what do i need to do to make the configs we just changed stick forever?
[00:40] <nicomachus> !es | zair
[00:40] <skinny> zair yo hablo espanol
[00:40] <urkengurken> daftykins: Ok, how would I check then.
[00:40] <daftykins> overflyer: well what's specified in that file is correct, it's what it's DOING to do it wrong that i don't know, so i can't give you the answer.
[00:40] <wileee> sonicx, Not sure but if you just ask the channel with the info, looks like your missing the top header with the controls and the image, someone may know.
[00:40] <squinty> easyOnMe,  might want to try  id <user>
[00:40] <daftykins> urkengurken: you said you'd go off and find out.
[00:40] <urkengurken> daftykins: ok lt me try again
[00:41] <zair> por que ponen su nombre verdadero
[00:41] <skinny> zair no es el verdadero al menos el mio es un apodo
[00:41] <overflyer> ok daftykins...you helped me so much ... i saved this chat completely and sinc ethis is a server which should be running alway after i installed everything and its taken over its specific task i will configure the interface right one more time and never reboot again :D#
[00:41] <zair> aaaaaaaaaaah
[00:41] <squinty> easyOnMe,  can also use   groups <user>
[00:42] <skinny> ase cuanto usas linux? zair
[00:42] <zair> no tanto tiempo yevo dos dias en esto
[00:43] <skinny> zair te deseo mucha suerte y no des paratras que aqui nadie te espia en canvio en windows ni se diga
[00:43] <G0> Hablas espanol ?
[00:43] <urkengurken> daftykins: I don't have an operation system properly installed on the computer yet, how can even flash it though?
[00:43] <daftykins> skinny: english only.
[00:43] <squinty> !ubuntu-es
[00:43] <zair> ok
[00:44] <skinny> is ok sorry
[00:44] <skinny> go to ubuntu-es
[00:44] <skinny> -_-
[00:45] <zair> como se puede entrar en un servidor que sea en español
[00:45] <daftykins> urkengurken: often don't need an OS. reading the help on the download page of whatever provider should answer this
[00:45] <daftykins> zair: stop.
[00:45] <G0> join
[00:45] <G0>  / join #ubuntu-es
[00:46] <daftykins> no space after the /
[00:46] <zair> gracias
[00:46] <urkengurken> daftykins: here is the page: http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00007682
[00:47] <nicomachus> ?
[00:47] <zair> mevoy chau
[00:49] <urkengurken> daftykins: ok i found the support page: http://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-envy-m4-1000-notebook-pc-series/5296069/model/5312250 i can't find anything related to bios though
[00:51] <Guest63056> hello all
[00:51] <Guest63056> i've install ubuntu 15.4 but i have prob when i want to login
[00:52] <zair> guest team
[00:52] <daftykins> what problem?
[00:52] <daftykins> how many guesses do we get?
[00:52] <Guest63056> when i want to login to my ubuntu it's give me a blank and i catch it with video
[00:52] <Guest63056> give me as this acpi
[00:53] <daftykins> what language do you speak? you're not very clear.
[00:53] <nicomachus> was this a fresh install or an upgrade from an existing install?
[00:53] <Guest63056> every time i want login give me this msg i re-install it sometimes but always give me this prob
[00:54] <Guest63056> fresh install
[00:54] <Guest63056> im arabian
[00:54] <Guest63056> sorry about my bad english
[00:54] <urkengurken> daftykins: http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-ENVY-m4-1000-Notebook-PC-series/5296069/model/5312250/how-to I literally can't find anything about bios
[00:55] <urkengurken> updats
[00:55] <urkengurken> *updates
[00:55] <nicomachus> no problem, Guest63056, but you may be able to get help easier in a channel with people that speak your language.
[00:56] <Guest63056> can u give me the link please
[00:56] <daftykins> urkengurken: ok i can see getting you to think outside of the box is too tall an order for this evening :) 1) boot live media of ubuntu, 2) use 'dd' to zero the first 100MB of the hard disk/SSD 3) reinstall
[00:57] <nicomachus> Guest63056: There is a channel for Saudi Arabia at #ubuntu-sa
[00:57] <urkengurken> nice joke
[00:58] <Guest63056> thx guys
[00:58] <urkengurken> the problem is
[00:58] <urkengurken> I can't boot ubuntu
[00:58] <urkengurken> lol
[00:58] <urkengurken> i have the disc right here
[00:58] <urkengurken> i can record what happens
[00:59] <nicomachus> urkengurken: what are the specs on the hardware?
[00:59] <urkengurken> http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-ENVY-m4-Notebook-PC-series/5296069/model/5312250/document/c03511047/
[00:59] <daftykins> urkengurken: oh so it was booting the live session.
[01:00] <daftykins> !nomodeset | urkengurken read this.
[01:00] <daftykins> urkengurken: and it wasn't a joke, i was deadly serious.
[01:00] <urkengurken> i bet you were
[01:01] <urkengurken> and yes it was trying to boot a live session and thanks dafty
[01:01] <urkengurken> for the link
[01:02] <urkengurken> where exactly do i type the code?
[01:03] <nicomachus> follow that link
[01:03] <urkengurken> ok i figured it out (finally)
[01:03] <daftykins> urkengurken: the article explains
[01:03] <daftykins> urkengurken: i'm not sure ubuntu is for you if you apply this level of patience to computer use
[01:03] <urkengurken> thanks daft for putting up with my tall ass order]
[01:04] <urkengurken> bye :)
[01:07] <cybermorpher> I got a question, If somebody may help me or at least let me know if its possible.
[01:08] <wileee> cybermorpher, do we guess?
[01:08] <cybermorpher> but i dont know if it may be related dirrectly with linux/ubuntu. Can i still ask
[01:09] <wileee> cybermorpher, ask away people will let you know.
[01:14] <urkengurken> so all i need to do is enable nomodeset?
[01:16] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[01:28] <nicomachus> poor guy
[01:29] <wileee> i've fallen and I can't apt-get
[01:31] <wvew> hello there, I made a clean install, and when I was running the first software update, I accidentally interrupted the process. now, when I restarted the machine, I have grub command line ( like this; grub>)..how can I fix this?
[01:37] <wvew> noone here to help?
[01:39] <wvew> for the first time ever nobody replying here
[01:40] <Bashing-om> wvew: Can you boot from grub boot menu in " rtecovery mode ' ?
[01:42] <wvew> Bashing-om, hi. I dont see the boot menu in the first place. after the first splash screen comes directly the black command line screens with a blinking cursor after grub>
[01:42] <wvew> and an explanation at the top that says 'minimal BASH-like line editing..."
[01:42] <mbrigdan> Hey guys, semi-recently, alt-middle click stopped letting me resize windows, it seems to paste stuff instead. Anyone know how I can get it to go back to its old behaviour?
[01:43] <nicomachus> mbrigdan: keyboard shortcuts in the system settings
[01:44] <Bashing-om> wvew: Try this: Reboot, and as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold a shift key -> grub boot menu ?
[01:44] <mbrigdan> nicomachus, hmm, keyboard shortcuts only lists alt-F8
[01:45] <wvew> Bashing-om, sorry, what is 'depress' ?
[01:45] <mbrigdan> nicomachus, ah I found it, it was hiding in ccsm. Thanks anyways
[01:45] <Bashing-om> wvew: Depress = hold down the key .
[01:46] <wvew> Bashing-om, so I just press down a shift key?
[01:46] <Bashing-om> wvew: Yep, unless this is a UEFI system, then it is the escape key .
[01:48] <wvew> Bashing-om, yes, boot menu! it says 1.usb hdd <enter setup>
[01:50] <Bashing-om> wvew: That does not sound like the grub boot menu . Maybe you did bot await bios to clear, before pressing the shift key ?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> bot/not*
[01:51] <Bashing-om> wvew: Honestly if you re-install .. will be quicker and easier than trying to fix this fresh install .
[01:52] <wvew> oh no..
[01:53] <Bashing-om> wvew: The choice is yours, and your time . Your call .
[01:53] <wvew> Bashing-om, i think I will do that.
[01:53] <wvew> thank you for your help
[01:54] <Bashing-om> wvew: " i think I will do that. " Which ? fix or re-install .
[01:54] <wvew> Bashing-om, I meant reinstall :)
[01:56] <Bashing-om> wvew: Yeah, I assure you, that is the better option, ubless you want to spend some time learning this operating system . There is a learning curve to fix a broken install . But it is ubuntu ! It is always fixable .
[01:57] <wvew> Bashing-om..yes, I'd fixed grub before with a few commands and a live cd, but this time things looked messier :)
[02:00] <Bashing-om> wvew: :) ,, Maybe we could CHange Root into the install from the liveDVD and complete the update . possible . Won't take long to find out .
[02:02] <wvew> started reinstall already..thank you Bashing-om
[02:03] <Bashing-om> wvew: K, still the btter thing to do - (RE-)install . Then no worries later on if 'something' is not right .
[02:03] <wvew> yes
[02:04] <Techspectre> In general, how much swap space should Ubuntu be using at a time? Under normal everyday use?
[02:04] <nicomachus> daftykins: do you know if unity in 15.04 still does compositing? everything I can find is 11.04 or older
[02:05] <stack12> Techspectre: if you never max out your ram make it use none
[02:06] <Techspectre> stack12, I see. As far as I can tell, I'm not maxing out my ram. But for some reason, Ubuntu has been freezing recently. Like, I have to reset the machine, as if I were on Windows. And I'm wondering if swap space is the problem, because I have 8Gb of ram but only 6.5 Gb of swap space
[02:08] <wileee> TechChristoph_, Is it swapping?
[02:08] <wileee> Techspectre, ^^
[02:08] <wileee> sorry TechChristoph_
[02:08] <Techspectre> wileee, Well, sys monitor says it's using absolutely none of the swap
[02:08] <Techspectre> 0%
[02:10] <wileee> Techspectre, If you have a spinning HD, if it swaps it may produce this, you can monitor this, I use a conky, changing the swappiness value is an option, all this is on conjecture is all.
[02:11] <Techspectre> wileee, the swap space is located on an SSD
[02:11] <Techspectre> Is there an effective way to identify the cause for freezes
[02:12] <wileee> Techspectre, demsg might show info
[02:12] <Techspectre> wileee, could you tell me how to use that in the terminal
[02:13] <wileee> dmesg in the terminal gives a huge text output, have fun. ;)
[02:13] <Techspectre> lmao
[02:13] <Techspectre> okay thank you
[02:14] <Techspectre> lmao I have no clue what I'm looking at
[02:14] <Techspectre> and there's so much data it would take ages to identify the problem this way
[02:14] <wileee> Techspectre, there is no magic answer, I gave you some stuff to work with.
[02:15] <Techspectre> wileee, and I appreciate it
[02:16] <Techspectre> I guess the first step to take will be to run stress on the CPU and memory, see if I can get it to hang... if not, I'll chalk it up to software and read through that output
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Techspectre: Another thought, ya might keep 'top' running in a terminal, and see if an pplication becomes a resource hog .
[02:18] <Techspectre> Bashing-om, thanks I'll try that. Not familiar with top, is it the same as watching sys monitor?
[02:18] <mariano_> does ubuntu have a screen auto rotate option out of the box?
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Techspectre: Very similar .just open a terminal and type top to start the tool .
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Techspectre: ^ 'q' to quit out of top .
[02:19] <Techspectre> Bashing-om, thank you
[02:23] <Nikesh> Ehm, this is quite strange. The nm-applet is no longer appearing in my status bar. I'm on Ubuntu 14.10 using Unity.. it just disappeared.. I mean, I saw it earlier today so I don't know what happened to it. Any ideas how to solve this?
[02:23] <dbkaplun> What terminal editor do you guys use?
[02:23] <Nikesh> dbkaplun: I like vim
[02:24] <tim`> atom vim mode is entertaining
[02:27] <dbkaplun> What do you guys think of slap editor? Anyone try it?
[02:28] <tim`> sounds like crap without knowing anything about it
[02:29] <dbkaplun> https://github.com/slap-editor/slap
[02:30] <somsip> dbkaplun: looking at the youtube video....urrrgh. No point in going left 8 times when you can 8h in vim, or deleting 5 times to fix alignment when == in vim will do the same. Looks pretty and maybe Sublime users might like it though
[02:35] <D30> hello all, i was trying to boot a kvm guest to an iso file hosted on local server based on this, i am basing my steps on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#From_a_local_server
[02:35] <D30> now when i used the iso to boot like this --location http://server1/ubuntu
[02:36] <D30> i get an error like > ERROR    Couldn't find hvm kernel for Ubuntu tree.
[02:36] <D30> what should be the proper url for booting from iso mounted on a local server?
[02:38] <D30> anybody?
[02:43] <Nikesh> somsip: What does `==` do that `=` doesn't? I'm testing an I don't see a difference
[02:44] <tim`> um
[02:47] <joespeakeasy> Is there a way to determine the AWS account an instance is tied to… it seems I've misplaced my instance. I can ssh into it, but the AWS account I thought it was on isn't showing any intances.
[03:11] <greezyjr> hello?
[03:11] <wolflarson> hi
[03:30] <chaos7theory> For 15.04 (or maybe above), what's the recommended file system for SSDs nowadays?
[03:38] <bedeho> anyone with experience in dual booting ubuntu and windows 8?
[03:39] <alberto> hi
[03:41] <chaos7theory> bedeho: Anytime I've tried it it messed up Windows' boot loader.
[03:41] <wileee> bedeho, Help is here if you outline the issue.
[03:41] <chaos7theory> bedeho: If you're doing it, my best advice is do it with the most recent stable release of Ubuntu possible
[03:41] <bedeho> chaos7theory: that seems to have have happened to me as well
[03:42] <bedeho> wilee: thanks, will explain
[03:42] <chaos7theory> Are you booting through Windows Boot Manager or GRUB?
[03:42] <bedeho> had fresh win8 installed on fresh laptop, then installed most recent ubuntu deksotp version,and now when I try to run windows from the boot manager I just get that there is some sort of disk error windows is trying to fix, but is unable to
[03:43] <bedeho> The boot manager seems like an ubuntu manager, so that would be grub I guess
[03:44] <wileee> bedeho, Did you resize windows with the ubuntu install?
[03:44] <fasdf> hi do all app running on ubuntu can also be used in linux mint ?
[03:44] <wileee> fasdf, You would have to ask mint. ;)
[03:45] <bedeho> wilee: yes, there was just one disk, so an ubuntu partition was created, which resulted in resizing the single windows partition
[03:45] <wileee> bedeho, That can be an issue, you in ubuntu now?
[03:45] <bedeho> wileee: yes
[03:45] <bedeho> it works just fine
[03:46] <wileee> bedeho, run in the ubuntu terminal sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the info
[03:46] <wileee> bedeho, let us know the ubuntu release as well.
[03:47] <chaos7theory> Do you have a recovery USB drive or DVD?
[03:48] <chaos7theory> @bedeho
[03:48] <bedeho> wilee: giving it a try
[03:48] <wileee> bedeho, cool, you want the bots info on pastebin?
[03:48] <bedeho> chaos7theory: I think the machine ships with some windows version on some hidden partition or something
[03:48] <bedeho> I dont have a disk
[03:50] <wileee> bedeho, Ah, this was a oem install? the command is actually to see what is there, if a UEFI setup, do you know?
[03:51] <bedeho> wilee: not sure I understand, what is UEFI?
[03:51] <bedeho> wilee: http://pastebin.com/64r4em13
[03:51] <bedeho> also not sure how I find my ubuntu version
[03:52] <wileee> bedeho, UEFI Is the new no bios safe boot setup, a gpt partition setup.
[03:52] <wileee> you have gpt
[03:53] <bedeho> gpt?
[03:53] <wileee> bedeho, You will need better help than me, we will have to fighure out a few things great help here though.
[03:53] <wileee> !uefi | bedeho just info as of now
[03:54] <bedeho> ok, not sure entirely what to make of this, I just followed the recommended steps for getting dual boot to work...
[03:55] <wileee> bedeho, under a gpt scenario? Not sure you followed the correct source is all.
[03:56] <wileee> bedeho, Things have changed since this uefi has been around with dualboots, you just need a helper whom can check the wrk you done and get you the right help. ;)
[03:57] <wileee> work you've*
[03:58] <wileee> bedeho, Not saying you can't do this, just a suggestion is all.
[04:00] <bedeho> who would you recommend I try to get to help me onthis?
[04:01] <bedeho> wileee: Not sure whom to ask
[04:01] <wileee> bedeho, seems appropriate, you came here for help, I mean here.
[04:01] <blook> anybody able to help me out with a regex really quickly? #regex is dead.
[04:02] <wileee> bedeho, Kind of slow right now, but this is a common issue in general and there are users here whom give help on uefi.
[04:03] <bedeho> wilee: thank you, will try come back then. Do you have any sort of hunch about what will be required?
[04:04] <bedeho> wilee: I dont even mind reinstalling windows, i would justl ike to avoid reinstalling ubuntu
[04:04] <wileee> bedeho, Mostly questions and some commands run, gets busier here soon.
[04:05] <bedeho> wilee: thanks!
[04:05] <wileee> or they helpers I know come on
[04:05] <wileee> no prob
[04:24] <AlexLikeRock> http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-gnu-manifesto-turns-thirty
[04:24] <AlexLikeRock> we have 30 years of  GNU  :)))))))))
[04:27] <xangua> !ot
[04:33] <kubuntu_> Hello, my GRUB is corrupt, how do I go about restoring it on my dual boot system with Windows 8 - UEFI. I tried Boot-Repair, it asked me to enable a repo.
[04:35] <bodhi_zazen> kubuntu_, boot-repair , enable the repo ;)
[04:35] <kubuntu_> bodhi_zazen: I can only boot into a liveUSB, how do I enable that repo that is on the HDD?
[04:40] <wileee> kubuntu_, That makes no sense is all.
[04:41] <wileee> I think you mean a partition? there was here another with that scenario
[04:43] <kubuntu_> wileee: Sorry indeed yes enable it on the linux partition while I am booted in the LiveUSB
[04:44] <wileee> kubuntu_, the sda6 the ubuntu install I believe, I had no answer is all
[04:45] <wileee> kubuntu_, THe bootrepiar wanted to reload grub and efi which you did not have in the ubuntu install, looked broken to me, but not an area I'm best at.
[04:46] <wileee> legacy install, grub in the mbr and a efi windows
[04:47] <kubuntu_> I may have found some help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223856&s=f50a0385cabffe724133cc3237f0a49e
[04:49] <wileee> kubuntu_, Heh 3rd post oldfred, that is the guy you want to follow with anything boot, be careful is all I can say.
[04:49] <kubuntu_> wileee: I have done a backup :-)
[04:50] <wileee> kubuntu_, Good job, I learned a lot from that guy, his info is gold.
[04:50] <kubuntu_> wileee: Thanks, I'll seek his help. Is he on this channel at all?
[04:51] <wileee> kubuntu_, No, but I believe still is on the forums daily, if you post, put UEFI..etc in the header.
[04:51] <wileee> If he's there you will hear fromhim
[04:53] <wileee> great help here just a bit early is all
[04:53] <kubuntu_> What is the best time for help on here?
[04:54] <wileee> usually from within a couple hours some show through early day US time, some are in europe some in ghe US
[04:56] <kubuntu_> A couple of hours from right now?
[04:57] <wileee> kubuntu_, basically, it is not a written rule. can depend on how busy the channel gets as well.
[04:57] <kubuntu_> I understand, but in general :_)
[04:58] <kubuntu_> wileee: Thank you for all your help, I must go, but will continue later :-)
[04:58] <wileee> later  ;)
[05:04] <swap> hi
[05:21] <chaos7theory> Has anyone here attempted dual-booting Ubuntu with Windows 10 yet?
[05:22] <wileee> yes
[05:22] <wileee> same bcd since vista
[05:22] <chaos7theory> So Ubuntu detects it fine with UEFI and everything?
[05:22] <wileee> chaos7theory, I was msdos, but there should be no issue, same boot structure
[05:23] <wileee> I have not had a uefi to mess with is all
[05:24] <chaos7theory> I've had a bad history with it even with SecureBoot off, where I never got it to work <_>
[05:24] <chaos7theory> But that was with 12.04/12.10 more specifically a few years back
[05:24] <wileee> chaos7theory, some do it could be the computers setup in some, hard to say from here.
[05:25] <wileee> there were more problems it seemed around the 12.04 release, not really an accurate assessment though.
[05:29] <chaos7theory> I'll see how well it goes xD
[05:30] <chaos7theory> I did a clean install of Windows 10, though annoyingly it only dedicated 100 MB to the ESP, where from what I understand 200-300 MB is recommended especially on dualboot
[05:30] <chaos7theory> And while it says 5 GB is the minimum system requirement, is 16 GB a practical amount, especially without swap?
[05:31] <Sc00bz> is 15.04 stable or is it just me?
[05:32] <chaos7theory> Sc00bz: I don't think it's ever been said any of the non-LTS aren't stable
[05:33] <chaos7theory> Sc00bz: I personally update with every release, while sticking with LTS is probably better where time and money from setup is important
[05:44] <Sc00bz> ok thanks. Also is there an easy way or a guide to removing all the useless parts like suggestions (I don't care how cute cutemaze is)
[05:44] <bq_> i used US vpn but the remote site still display my local language not english, why is that?
[05:49] <camryfu> anyone installed 15.10?
[05:56] <LonelyDanbo> Is there any point in me trying Ubuntu to fix issues I'm having with Xubuntu, or should I try Mint instead? I'm having trouble with my graphics driver in support of Linux Steam, and also Wine.
[05:57] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: the version is important there. And what is your problem?
[05:58] <LonelyDanbo> uhm... I should get the specific text. I don't remember.
[05:58] <LonelyDanbo> for Steam, "OpenGL GLX extention not supported by display".
[05:59] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: well i had trouble with intel graphics on 14.04, but they were gone with 14.10 and 15.04
[05:59] <LonelyDanbo> for Wine... it's tricker. I did an apt-get update and apt-get I forget what, and the game I had that used to crash 3/4 times now crashes 4/4 times when trying to start.
[06:00] <LonelyDanbo> ... Oh. Yeah I'm on Xubuntu 14.04.
[06:00] <LonelyDanbo> No one seemed to suggest that a higher version would be a good idea, and the only reason against it was "LTS".
[06:01] <LonelyDanbo> Also I'm on an AMD chip.
[06:01] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: well i had to upgrade to the newest wine1.7 because had trouble with the 1.6.
[06:02] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: well for gaming i would suggest to use the newest version of *buntu
[06:03] <LonelyDanbo> Any difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? The one person giving me advice said they're not the same and at least Steam is designed for Ubuntu.
[06:04] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: well xubuntu uses xfce and xfwm, ubuntu uses gnome and compiz, but it should not be the problem if something bad happens
[06:04] <LonelyDanbo> I also heard trying to update versions of the OS can break things so I guess I need to install a new OS on another partition regardless...
[06:05] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: it depends, but yes i do always a fresh install of my xubuntu machine
[06:05] <ronburgendy> if you're worried about steam working, I'm pretty they have both worked out of the box for me
[06:06] <ronburgendy> 14.04, and 15.04
[06:06] <LonelyDanbo> Well it's not working for me on 14.04
[06:06] <ronburgendy> try out 15.04, thats what im running now
[06:06] <ronburgendy> new kernal probably broke it
[06:06] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: like i said, 15.04 has newer software and drivers, so less bugs. 14.04 is more stable but has less "newer" stuff.
[06:06] <LonelyDanbo> so much for "LTS" being reliable.
[06:07] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: it is, but not for everything. Games need many updates and stuff.
[06:07] <ronburgendy> I just wish they had more support for drivers from AMD
[06:07] <LonelyDanbo> I guess when I get things working I should not update. :(
[06:08] <LonelyDanbo> I had it working for over a year and updating is what broke it all.
[06:08] <baizon> ronburgendy: +1 sadly :(
[06:08] <ronburgendy> thats why I make a small 35gig partition on the side with windows 7 for csgo lol
[06:08] <LonelyDanbo> well... not Steam. I didn't try installing Steam before, so I'm not sure if it was unbroken then.
[06:08] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: what ronburgendy just said. I need 20 min for a fresh install
[06:08] <baizon> with that partition i mean
[06:09] <baizon> not windows 7 :P
[06:09] <LonelyDanbo> I also had a question about the boot loader. that's the thing that lets you pick which partition to boot? I'm not sure which OS set it up, but are there incompatibilties between them? like Debian and Ubuntu? It seems to have made a bit of a mess when I installed both.
[06:10] <LonelyDanbo> I'm wondering if it's going to delete old entries and put in new ones if I install another OS or if I have to learn how to manually edit that stuff.
[06:10] <wileee> !fud | LonelyDanbo
[06:10] <wileee> this is not your crying game
[06:10] <LonelyDanbo> wileee, what?
[06:11] <pragomer1> I have ubuntu 14.04 and a rooted android device. how to realize reverse tethering? (using pc's i-net-connection for the mobile..)
[06:11] <LonelyDanbo> I'm trying to get informed before I do something stupid like the last time when I accidentally installed the OS on the wrong partition and lost my mom's wedding photos.
[06:11] <ronburgendy> lmao
[06:14] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: always remember... don't forget to backup your data first
[06:15] <crazyhorse18> what do you guys use for drawing ER diagrams... dia is awkward and takes ages even to type up one table, libreoffice draw doesn't seem to let you nicely add text to the boxes
[06:15] <ronburgendy> does anyone here use fog on ubuntu server?
[06:15] <ronburgendy> im guessing they have their own channel
[06:15] <LonelyDanbo> I can't backup. I don't have another HD.
[06:15] <ronburgendy> take it to the cloud then
[06:15] <crazyhorse18> gliffy (web) works really well but costs $100 per year, google docs doesn't allow you to connect tables properly.. i'm really at a lost
[06:15] <crazyhorse18> loss*
[06:15] <baizon> LonelyDanbo: cloud? google drive, dropbox, mega, etc.
[06:17] <LonelyDanbo> Uhg. I ... I guess I'll just acknowledge your advice and say nothing more. :|
[06:25] <LonelyDanbo> do I have to do more identifying of partitions before I try to wipe my Debian installation and install another version of Xubuntu on it beside my older Xubuntu? running "df" seems to have identified where my current Xubuntu is, but an fdisk -l shows a lot more than just 2 partitions of the 2 OSes I have.
[06:27] <ronburgendy> can you mount the partitions and see what is in them?
[06:29] <LonelyDanbo> the Debian's partition with pictures and such is already mounted, though I'm not sure which /dev/sdbwhatever it is. oh wait, the size should make that clear.
[06:31] <ronburgendy> if you can pastebin I could tell you whats what
[06:31] <Blinkiz> Hello. I was tuning my display setup (Control panel -> Displays) and after that am having problem scrolling with my mouse wheel. When scrolling fast the window hops up to the top, irritating. What has happened? It is the same with all different kinds of mouses, tried a couple so it is not hardware problem but software
[06:32] <LonelyDanbo> ronburgendy http://pastebin.com/rzYqQ9gM
[06:33] <LonelyDanbo> sda7 is Xubuntu. I'm guessing sda6 is Debian. something tells me that 6 & 7 are inside 2?
[07:05] <FelixFire619> how do i statickly program in a eth0 IP and a eth0:1 ip? everytime i edit interfaces, .head, .tail it still gets erased.. (static ips), ,
[07:11] <raju> hi
[07:12] <wileee> FelixFire619, This might help. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[07:14] <lemonsparrow> I have create a symlink ln -s /usr/local/akam /a and now when I create files in either  of the path, the other reflects it.. but when I do ls -al   /a it isn't showing /usr/local/akam why ?
[07:21] <Guest16191> Hi i am using lubuntu and I dont have a shortcut to the taskmanager where can I make a new shortcut?
[07:23] <xangua> Open it from the dash, right clic in the icon in the panel, stick it
[07:23] <Guest16191> are you talking to me again pls I don't understand what you ment :/
[07:27] <madiba> trying to set environment path and I can't find .profile, .bashrc or .bash in my home folder. Running Ubuntu 14.04
[07:33] <wileee> madiba,  the (.) means hidden   ctrl-h
[07:34] <madiba> I have done that but can't either file.
[07:34] <elton> ls -la home folder
[07:34] <madiba> @elton, no such files!
[07:34] <elton> just create them?
[07:35] <elton> they don’t exist by default
[07:35] <madiba> @elton, ok. link to any sample content?
[07:36] <chebit> Which is better? Ati or nVidia
[07:36] <illskillz> liek amd is better when cheaper
[07:37] <elton> really you can put anything inside .bashrc
[07:37] <illskillz> and nvidiya is liek when you wan sum fps boost per more money
[07:37] <elton> you can put echo “Welcome, you have logged in”
[07:37] <illskillz> battlefield is liek go with nvidia
[07:37] <chebit> tanks illskillz
[07:37] <elton> on login it just looks for those files and execute whatever is on there
[07:37] <madiba> @elton thanks.
[07:38] <elton> and you can test your environment variable by $printValue to see if it got loaded
[07:42] <Triffid_Hunter> hi, how do I install the cp210x.ko kernel module? dpkg-query -S doesn't find it, and apt-cache search doesn't find anything useful either
[07:44] <OerHeks> !find cp210x.ko
[07:45] <OerHeks> it seems it is already in your kernel
[07:45] <wolfgang> hi
[07:49] <Triffid_Hunter> OerHeks: hm looks like the kernel is old, and apt-get install linux-image spits out a huge list of versions and types and tells me to be more specific. how do I find out what type of kernel is currently installed? I already know how to get the version with uname -a. I don't know if I want a "lpae" kernel or not
[07:49] <Lihis> Hi all. I have set apticron recently, it sends me the email from the custom sender address which I defined but apt-listchanges does not come from same address which I defined at apticron?
[07:51] <bcx_> hi all, ubuntu novice here... was wondering if someone could talk me through server redundancy? i have 2 servers running ubuntu 14.04, not sure how to have 1 mirror the other...
[07:51] <OerHeks> Triffid_Hunter, so you claim those kernels are old, and you wanjt PAE?
[07:51] <OerHeks> bcx_, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-server too
[07:52] <bcx_> ah cool, thanks for that tip
[07:52] <ronburgendy> bcx_ have you looked into rsync? Never used it but thought id throw it out there
[07:52] <bcx_> i've done some googling, but i felt like i was going in circles
[07:52] <bcx_> hang on, let me look it up :)
[07:53] <OerHeks> rsync is indeed a fast solution
[07:56] <bcx_> i am looking at the example on the rsync site... if i just want to sync my /var/www stuff, can i assume that the "export PATH=$PATH:" should be /var/www on the 2nd server?
[07:56] <Ububegin> I am at the root folder.. how do i find the size of all the folders here.. If i type du -lh * .. it starts recursing to every sub folder
[07:57] <Ben64> Ububegin: have you checked "man du"
[07:59] <Ububegin> Ben64 : i tried du -c  /opt ... and it still recurses
[07:59] <VOID001__> Hi , I cannot use gcc -m32 What dependencies do I need?
[07:59] <VOID001__> I cannot find via search engine..
[08:00] <somsip> Ububegin: it has to recurse to find the size of each file in the sub dirs and get the overall size used
[08:00] <VOID001__> Hope anyone could give me the answer
[08:00] <Ububegin> somsip: but i just want it to display the size of the entire folder and not all the subdirectores and files etc
[08:01] <Triffid_Hunter> OerHeks: it has a 3.10 kernel, apt-get has 3.19-generic and 3.19-generic-lpae.. anyway, what's the risk of this board getting bricked if I update the kernel?
[08:01] <Ben64> Ububegin: yeah, check the man page again for the switches you want
[08:01] <somsip> Ububegin: -d (max-depth) read the man as suggested
[08:02] <VOID001__> Could anyone please tell me how to enable gcc -m32 on Ubuntu QAQ
[08:02] <VOID001__> I don't know what dependencies to install
[08:03] <fidel_> VOID001__: what error do you get?
[08:03] <VOID001__> When I build wine from source
[08:03] <VOID001__> run ./configure
[08:04] <Ben64> why are you trying to do that
[08:04] <VOID001__> then It shows checking whether gcc -m32
[08:04] <VOID001__> It said no
[08:05] <Ububegin> somsip: just used -s operator.. this seems quite good
[08:05] <somsip> Ububegin: -s summarise, as detailed in the man page, is equal to -d=0
[08:05] <VOID001__> I don't know which dep for Ubuntu to enable 32 bit develop
[08:05] <Ben64> VOID001__: then just use wine from the repositories
[08:06] <VOID001__>  = =
[08:06] <VOID001__> I need to code on wine TAT
[08:06] <VOID001__> I need to build it from source
[08:07] <elton> hi is anyone available to help? I need help upgrading linux kernel. I extract tar -xvf linux-3.18.19
[08:07] <elton> and i don’t know what to do next
[08:07] <somsip> elton: if you need to ask that question, dont upgrade the linux kernel
[08:08] <elton> well i need it to set-up docker
[08:08] <mcphail> VOID001__: if you really _need_ to build something from source, rather than use whatever is in the repositories, a quick tip is to use "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename" to install everything you need. Works 98% of the time
[08:08] <somsip> elton: really, I'm not being sarcastic. It's not something to do unless you know what you're doing
[08:08] <VOID001__> But I think this time it doesn't work ...
[08:08] <VOID001__> Thank you all the same
[08:09] <elton> well i guess my question is i want to upgrade the linux kernel
[08:09] <elton> what are my options
[08:09] <somsip> elton: the answer would be to use the one in the repo. Cmopiling the kernel from source is not supported here
[08:10] <elton> ah i see
[08:10] <richardreloaded> is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1246272 ever going to be fixed?
[08:10] <mcphail> VOID001__: wine is a bit tricky because it wants to build a 32bit binary and you are probably running a 64bit Ubuntu version. This is a common snag, and a bit of basic searching on the wine website will answer your questions
[08:10] <richardreloaded> at all?
[08:10] <mcphail> VOID001__: building wine is not on topic here
[08:10] <elton> i’m trying to set-up environment and prereq is that i need linux kernel 3.8+
[08:10] <VOID001__> OK , I see ~ thanks
[08:10] <mcphail> !mainline | elton
[08:11] <elton> nice
[08:11] <elton> i think that is what i need ty!
[08:11] <mcphail> elton: what version of Ubuntu are you running if your kernel is <3.8?
[08:13] <elton> ah this box is still 12 lts
[08:14] <elton> i think i am going to upgrade to 14 lts lol
[08:15] <mcphail> elton: probably a better idea than messing about with new kernels
[08:15] <elton> yeah definately
[08:20] <bcx_> thanks to everyone recommending rsync - i've checked it out, looks good. not too hard to use, especially with the GUI (grsync) - one question though, what's the difference between backing up and synchronizing?
[08:20] <bcx_> probably a dumb question :)
[08:21] <somsip> bcx_: back - copy everything from A to B. Sync - copy from  A to B and from B to A depending on what's missing, filestamps, etc
[08:21] <fidel_> bcx_: most likely unidirectional vs biderectional. refering to texts in grsync?
[08:21] <somsip> s/back/backup
[08:22] <bcx_> i mean what makes them different. if i back up 1 server to another, what makes that different from syncing 1 server to another
[08:22] <fidel_> oe direction vs two direction
[08:22] <somsip> bcx_: backup only goes one way - from source to destination. Sync goes both ways
[08:23] <bcx_> ahh
[08:23] <bcx_> great, thank you
[08:29] <richardreloaded> greetings to canonical. due to #1246272 my organization is forced to migrate from ubuntu to fedora... The accounting department regularly fails to login because their passwords are not entered correctly on a random keyboard layout
[08:30] <richardreloaded> which causes me a shitload of work and anger
[08:31] <richardreloaded> management was close to migrate back to windows. you guys fucked up big time
[08:32] <somsip> richardreloaded: this channel is staffed by volunteers, not canonical
[08:32] <richardreloaded> oh... sorry
[08:32] <mcphail> richardreloaded: please moderate your language
[08:32] <somsip> richardreloaded: you can go for the paid support, or you are relying on the community to help, which is here
[08:32] <k1l> and that bug sounds more like a general "i press the language cycle key binding" "bug". but thanks for your rant, that will help _a lot_
[08:33] <richardreloaded> it isnt... i experience that bug myself quite regularly
[08:33] <richardreloaded> gdm just randomly changes the layout
[08:33] <richardreloaded> before you even touch the keyboard
[08:34] <Tzunamii> richardreloaded: Did you try the second to last 'solution' to see if it works properly after that? (in the bug thread)
[08:34] <k1l> richardreloaded: good that ubuntu uses lightdm. and then good luck with fedora having the same bug.
[08:34] <richardreloaded> excuse my anger... just found out i have to work the whole weekend because of this mess
[08:34] <shadow193> Hi all, does anyone know how can I get channel list in irssi ??
[08:34] <somsip> !alis | shadow193
[08:35] <richardreloaded> fedora does not have the bug. the testsystems already work stable...
[08:35] <richardreloaded> in fact i had to migrate some workstations earlier to solve the problem. and it did solve it
[08:35] <Tzunamii> richardreloaded: Please respond to my Q
[08:36] <richardreloaded> yes. tried everything. just reduced the frequency a bit
[08:37] <richardreloaded> still i get calls every day that people can't login because their passwords contain either y or z
[08:37] <richardreloaded> and we're using QWERTZ
[08:41] <richardreloaded> also nslcd regularly fails to start because upstart activates it before the network is up. solved by "while !
[08:42] <richardreloaded> "while ! [ -f /var/run/nslcd/nslcd.tkt ]; do service nslcd restart; sleep 2; done
[08:42] <richardreloaded> in /etc/rc.local
[08:44] <richardreloaded> a really beautiful solution that every administrator loves to have in his config :)
[08:46] <_a00_> Anyone able to point Mr to removing everyhig from full ubuntu unity install ?? I need 4 apps along with networking after a mate core install. Don't need unity or any other apps...
[08:47] <_a00_> Have to use a full installation CD, cannot use minimal install CD which is why I am asking...
[08:51] <_a00_> I could use ubuntu mate CD but the person I am doing this for requires that I use a unity CD for some reason...
[08:52] <OerHeks> _a00_, good luck then
[08:53] <Tebbo> ugh
[08:53] <Tebbo> trying to get league of legends to run
[08:53] <Tebbo> finally got it installed, but launching takes forever and patching is fucking eternal
[08:54] <OerHeks> Tebbo, please watch your language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[08:54] <Tebbo> loool
[08:54] <Tebbo> dude really i got cursed out the other day
[08:54] <Tebbo> but whatever
[08:55] <Flannel> _a00_: The simplest way would simply be to compare the package lists of each, and then remove/install the appropriate packages.  You can get the package lists via the manifest file (for instance: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.manifest)
[08:55] <OerHeks> you might want to visit wineHQ, for game help
[08:55] <Idle82848> will removing flash plugin stop youtube videos from working?
[08:55] <Tebbo> idle82848 no
[08:55] <Tebbo> youtube is html5
[08:55] <Flannel> _a00_: That may not be the smartest way, but it's mechanically the simplest.
[08:55] <Idle82848> ok thanks :)
[08:55] <_a00_> Flannel: Thanks :)
[08:55] <OerHeks> Flannel, but some packages removes the whole unity-desktop
[08:56] <Flannel> OerHeks: yes, but he wants to remove the whole unity desktop, so that's a bonus.
[08:56] <Flannel> _a00_: Also, remember to purge, not remove!
[09:02] <elmcrest> hey everybody. I have to run dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration after every reboot. google didn't bring up working solutions. any hints? (14.04 lts)
[09:11] <havinagiggle> hi guys, i want to dual boot ubuntu with win10, i have win10 installed on a 500gb ssd and want to install ubuntu alongside windows on the same ssd.
[09:12] <k1l> havinagiggle: that just works like a regular dualboot
[09:12] <havinagiggle> i installed ubuntu on an old laptop no problem. but my current thinkpad s440 has uefi and i am intimidated by that, three wikis only to install ubuntu?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | havinagiggle
[09:13] <havinagiggle> this works with uefi?
[09:13] <havinagiggle> i have to disable the secure chip in bios, right?
[09:14] <EriC^^> havinagiggle: just be sure to boot ubuntu in uefi mode
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !uefi | havinagiggle
[09:14] <k1l> ubuntu should work with uefi
[09:14] <EriC^^> havinagiggle: no, you don't
[09:14] <raju> hi
[09:14] <raju> wat is dis
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !topic | raj
[09:14] <havinagiggle> ok i can boot into ubuntu mate live usb stick no problem even with activated secure ship?
[09:15] <EriC^^> yeah, secure boot
[09:15] <havinagiggle> because in hyper-v (virtualisation software from microsoft) i need to disable the emulated secure chip to install ubuntu
[09:15] <raju> kernel
[09:15] <EriC^^> maybe it doesn't have the ubuntu signed key or something
[09:16] <EriC^^> havinagiggle: you should be able to boot with secureboot enabled
[09:16] <raju> how to use skype
[09:16] <k1l> raju: install it, use it.
[09:16] <cfhowlett> !skype | raju
[09:17] <raju> thnks undrstand
[09:17] <raju> can i download mp3 song or vidio song in unbuntu how
[09:17] <cfhowlett> raju, errr, download song, save song ... ?
[09:19] <havinagiggle> Eric^^ you said to me i should be booting ubunti in uefi mode, what did you mean by that?
[09:20] <raju> when i am power on my laptop one erroe come like 06225 probe
[09:20] <raju> probe failed
[09:20] <cfhowlett> raju, but it boots up anyway, right?
[09:21] <EriC^^> havinagiggle: when you boot press try ubuntu then open a terminal and type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[09:21] <EriC^^> if it exists then you've booted in uefi mode
[09:22] <havinagiggle> thanks that would have been fatal to not know this information right?^^
[09:22] <EriC^^> havinagiggle: if it doesn't then you're in legacy mode and you need to boot in uefi mode otherwise it won't install correctly if windows is in uefi mode
[09:22] <EriC^^> not really, you'd have to reinstall again, or convert to uefi
[09:23] <cfhowlett> havinagiggle, little overly dramatic there, Hoss.  There are no recorded instances of ubuntu caused fatalities
[09:23] <EriC^^> lol
[09:23] <havinagiggle> ..
[09:23] <raju> lol
[09:24] <havinagiggle> thanks cfhowlett, this picture really helps http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[09:24] <havinagiggle> xD
[09:24] <havinagiggle> resolution is amazing
[09:25] <k1l> havinagiggle: since you use a german provider, why not look into the really good german wiki at wiki.ubuntuusers.de ?
[09:25] <havinagiggle> according to the wiki, if the live usb stick is set to boot in uefi the bootup looks like this http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[09:25] <cfhowlett> havinagiggle, uefi boot will be in black and white.
[09:25] <havinagiggle> i have no problem understanding english
[09:27] <ubuntunoob> Hi guys, I'm having troubles mounting CD, could you please help? I've been googling for some time and trying to make it work, but had no luck.
[09:27] <ubuntunoob> When I try 'mount /dev/sr0' here's what it prints: 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad
[09:27] <ubuntunoob> superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error'
[09:27] <raju> kuch bolo
[09:27] <ubuntunoob> Here's the output of dmesg | tail when I try mounting: http://pastebin.com/NxAzvFes
[09:27] <cfhowlett> !english | raju,
[09:27] <k1l> havinagiggle: its not about understanding english, its about the really good wiki which is only in german......
[09:27] <k1l> havinagiggle: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Efi_Grundlagen
[09:27] <cfhowlett> k1l, I thought that was translated to English!  No?
[09:27] <havinagiggle> k1l :)
[09:27] <raju> k
[09:28] <EriC^^> ubuntunoob: try mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /mnt
[09:28] <k1l> cfhowlett: i am not aware of.
[09:28] <EriC^^> ubuntunoob: or mount -t iso9660 -o loop /dev/sr0 /mnt
[09:28] <havinagiggle> k1l that was the wiki where i had to read 3 wiki pages and was intimitated
[09:29] <bazhang> run the page through google translate then
[09:29] <havinagiggle> so i will try installing it now :o
[09:30] <havinagiggle> thanks
[09:30] <havinagiggle> till later
[09:30] <havinagiggle> with two bricked partition
[09:31] <ubuntunoob> EriC^^,  nope, still no. Now it prints '[ 2657.176741] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] unaligned transfer' in dmesg.
[09:36] <ubuntunoob> So, anyone?..
[09:38] <k1l> ubuntunoob: what cd is it? is it known to work?
[09:38] <x0rg> i'm bored
[09:38] <x0rg> stuck at the airport lol
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !ot | x0rg,
[09:39] <sheratan> hols
[09:39] <sheratan> ups
[09:39] <sheratan> hola
[09:40] <sheratan> tengo un problema con mysql-server-5.6
[09:40] <sheratan> alguien podria ayudarme?
[09:40] <k1l> !es | sheratan
[09:40] <ubuntunoob> k1l, The disk itself or the CD/DVD drive? It works fine under Windows. And here's the specs of device: http://pastebin.com/kT7cuNbA
[09:40] <sheratan> hello
[09:41] <sheratan> i have a problem with mysql-server-5.6
[09:41] <k1l> sheratan: what problem?
[09:42] <k1l> ubuntunoob: the cd?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> k1l, USB is also an option?
[09:42] <sheratan> the term said this " dpkg: error al procesar el paquete mysql-server-5.6 (--configure):  el paquete mysql-server-5.6 no está listo para configurarse  no se puede configurar (estado actual `half-installed') Se encontraron errores al procesar:  mysql-server-5.6 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:43] <sheratan> it's a bug, but i don't know the solution or alternative
[09:45] <ubuntunoob> k1l, the cd in question is a bootable Windows disk, I want to make .iso of it for future use. I tried other disks that I have laying around (both CD and DVD), neither of them seem to work.
[09:45] <McEE> Hi,what does the clean-script in apt-mirror is for exactly ?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> McEE, paste it.  the documentation should explain.
[09:48] <EriC^^> ubuntunoob: did you try with /dev/cdrom
[09:48] <McEE> cfhowlett, never bother if you dont know what i am talking about...
[09:49] <EriC^^> ubuntunoob: try just mount -o loop /dev/cdrom /mnt
[09:49] <EriC^^> McEE: don't be rude
[09:50] <ubuntunoob> EriC^^, 'mount: /dev/loop0: can't read superblock'
[09:59] <zvasafsaf> Why does Ubuntu have Multiverse and Universe repos and Debian doesn't?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> zvasafsaf, different distro's, different mirros
[10:00] <zvasafsaf> cfhowlett:Do Multiverse and Universe receive less support?
[10:01] <popey> kinda
[10:01] <popey> universe is community supported
[10:01] <popey> main is canonical supported
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !repos | zvasafsaf
[10:01] <baizon> zvasafsaf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[10:02] <baizon> zvasafsaf: or the fast way: "Universe - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported software. ", "Multiverse - Software that is not free. "
[10:02] <zvasafsaf> Thanks, will give it a read
[10:02] <zvasafsaf> baizon:The community releases bug fixes and uploads to the repos?
[10:02] <k1l> !sru | zvasafsaf
[10:02] <baizon> zvasafsaf: well yes
[10:02] <popey> yes zvasafsaf
[10:03] <popey> zvasafsaf: technically the same can be said of all the packages in all the sections
[10:03] <popey> because canonical is part of the community, and thus "the community" maintains all the packages
[10:04] <zvasafsaf> Do Universe and Multiverse packages receive updates in LTS even if it's not a security vulnerability?
[10:04] <baizon> zvasafsaf: yes
[10:04] <cfhowlett> zvasafsaf, yep
[10:04] <popey> updates as in bug and security fixes, yes.
[10:04] <k1l> zvasafsaf: its not that they get version upgrades.
[10:04] <cfhowlett> zvasafsaf, as not all packages update, I also enable backports.  YMMV
[10:05] <zvasafsaf> Okay, it's not as bad as I thought then. I thought Debian would be a better choice for me because I thought it supported like 50k packages instead of Ubuntu's 10k
[10:05] <popey> zvasafsaf: not sure where those numbers come from
[10:05] <baizon> zvasafsaf: ubuntu also has ppa ;)
[10:06] <baizon> zvasafsaf: you know that ubuntu takes all his packages from debian, right?
[10:06] <popey> ubuntu pulls in most of the debian archive too
[10:06] <zvasafsaf> popey:Debian main repos and Ubuntu main
[10:06] <popey> thats not a good gauge
[10:07] <zvasafsaf> I am worried that if I install stuff that isn't Unity and Gnome packages in Ubuntu from the Universe and Multiverse repos that my system will become an unstable mess
[10:07] <popey> nah
[10:07] <baizon> wont happen
[10:07] <popey> this isn't arch ;)
[10:07] <baizon> only ppa can break your system
[10:08] <zvasafsaf> Is it okay to upgrade to LTS from non-LTS and then set my update manager to only update to the next LTS or do I need to do a clean install?
[10:09] <baizon> zvasafsaf: its ok, but i personally always do a fresh install
[10:09] <popey> i wouldn't skip versions
[10:09] <zvasafsaf> baizon:Why?
[10:09] <popey> but you can
[10:09] <popey> I always upgrade :)
[10:09] <zvasafsaf> popey:I mean upgrade between versions then get to LTS then skip until the next LTS
[10:09] <baizon> zvasafsaf: its faster, no need to upgrade, just install :)
[10:09] <zvasafsaf> popey:Because LTS is better, right?
[10:09] <popey> yes, you can LTS->LTS
[10:10] <popey> "better" is subjective
[10:10] <zvasafsaf> popey:But can I go non-LTS->non-LTS->LTS->LTS?
[10:10] <popey> yes
[10:10] <zvasafsaf> LTS is more stable, like Debian?
[10:10] <popey> no
[10:10] <popey> thats not what LTS is for
[10:10] <zvasafsaf> baizon:But then you have to reinstall all your packages and configs and everything...
[10:10] <baizon> zvasafsaf: what you cant to is this: 13.04 -> 14.04.
[10:10] <popey> LTS is for longer support period
[10:10] <popey> baizon: actually you can :) we just don't recommend it
[10:11] <zvasafsaf> popey:So it is not for consumers?
[10:11] <popey> zvasafsaf: wat?
[10:11] <popey> zvasafsaf: you are making some wild leaps here :)
[10:11] <baizon> popey: you need to 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04, or am i wrong?
[10:11] <popey> baizon: we recommend that, yes. but it's possible to skip
[10:11] <zvasafsaf> popey:I want to use LTS because it has less bugs
[10:11] <baizon> ou ok, never skipped :D
[10:11] <popey> zvasafsaf: LTS doesn't mean less bugs
[10:12] <zvasafsaf> popey:I thought it did?
[10:12] <popey> zvasafsaf: LTS means supported for longer, hence "Long Term Support"
[10:12] <popey> meaning, you install it and don't have to upgrade for years
[10:12] <zvasafsaf> Is there a distro like Ubuntu but less buggy?
[10:12] <popey> wat
[10:12] <baizon> zvasafsaf: i tried them all, ubuntu has very few bugs ;)
[10:12] <bazhang> zvasafsaf, try ##linux
[10:12] <pupil> zvasafsaf: what bug do you find?
[10:13] <zvasafsaf> popey:I like Ubuntu because it has good support and easy ecryptfs and easy everything, but it is released every 6 months so is very buggy
[10:13] <baizon> zvasafsaf: thats why there is a LTS version ;)
[10:13] <baizon> so you dont have to upgrade every 6 months
[10:13] <pupil> zvasafsaf: that's why we recommend LTS version
[10:14] <popey> is released every 6 months does not mean "is buggy"
[10:14] <cfhowlett> popey, your choice.  Personally, I find I don't truly NEED the shiniest, newest packages.  LTS only works just fine.  Naturally, YMMV.
[10:14] <popey> cfhowlett: wat?
[10:14] <EriC^^> highlight fail
[10:14] <popey> cfhowlett: why are you telling me that?
[10:15] <cfhowlett> popey, d'oh!  ignore me.
[10:15] <popey>  /ignore cfhowlett
[10:15] <cfhowlett> sorry
[10:15] <baizon> hehe :)
[10:15] <jpds> zvasafsaf: If you find a piece of software that has no bugs, let me know
[10:16] <cfhowlett> zvasafsaf, bleeding edge = bloody edge.  Unless you truly NEED the newest, shiniest packages, I suspect LTS only will satisfy you quite nicely.
[10:17] <bazhang> he's muted, lets get back to regular support please
[10:17] <baizon> hehe, yeah hes right, he just got muted. Moving on
[10:32] <Balder_> Hello guys
[10:32] <Balder_> On ubuntu with gnome 3.16 whats best ati driver to use the open one or fglrx ?
[10:34] <EriC^^> Balder_: depends if you need the gpu, unity runs better on the open one for me
[10:34] <EriC^^> temps are lower
[10:34] <Balder_> i dont unity one gnome shell but this open driver feels alot snappier and stable
[10:34] <Balder_> use*
[10:35] <mcphail> Balder_: depends on a few things, including your card. I much prefer the open driver for my AMD APU
[10:35] <Balder_> my card is 7850
[10:38] <bfahmi> exit
[10:38] <bfahmi> Quit
[10:38] <Balder_> ur here
[10:39] <mcphail> Balder_: try them both and see what works best for you
[10:40] <Balder_> in terms of stability etc this open feels better so far i can play 4k videos on youtube with out any lagging..
[10:40] <bfahmi> set nick mr.xbin
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !nick | bfahmi
[10:42] <Auctus> the lock screen is pretty, kudos to whoever designed it. Particularly with this wallpaper (but i was using the included one of the wet pavement before, which also looks great): http://alpha.wallhaven.cc/wallpaper/241620
[10:58] <Guest85671> Привет Всем
[10:58] <Guest85671> Русские есть ?
[10:58] <Guest85671> #list
[10:58] <wtm_iphone> Russian ?
[10:59] <k1l> !ru | Guest85671
[11:03] <Fahim> hi
[11:04] <Duoflamingo> quit using ubuntu for a long time, cuz it's high request of mem
[11:04] <Duoflamingo> and send user info anonymously
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Fahim, greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[11:05] <gry> I recommend you use advanced installer. It gives you more control over the services and packages to install, to save memory.
[11:05] <k1l> Duoflamingo: you can change the settings in the systemsettings under  the point: privacy settings. and if you want a more lightweight desktop ubuntu offers other desktops in the repo
[11:07] <rustx> hi guys
[11:07] <Fahim> hello
[11:07] <rustx> i have one question regarding apt private repositories via ssh on custom port
[11:08] <Dirkos> I can login in my terminal, but when i login to my GUI i hear the system login sound but then return to my login page
[11:08] <Dirkos> even though the pass is valid. Anyone that has an idea?
[11:08] <EriC^^> Dirkos: does the guest account work?
[11:08] <rustx> what is the correct syntax to configure port into apt/sources.list file ?
[11:08] <Dirkos> EriC^^: what is the guest account?
[11:09] <Dirkos> I can login while doing CTRL+ALT+F1 with the same account
[11:09] <rustx> i am trying this one but does not work deb [arch=amd64] ssh://apt.repo:8888/var/repositories trusty main
[11:09] <EriC^^> Dirkos: ok, type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[11:09] <Dirkos> EriC^^: no guest session is not working
[11:09] <EriC^^> oh
[11:09] <k1l> Dirkos: see on the tty1 with ls -al what is owned by root:root in your home
[11:10] <Dirkos> k1l: nothing only the .. folder which makes sense
[11:10] <k1l> Dirkos: ok, that could have been an easy fix if it was a wrong owner of important files in the users homw
[11:10] <k1l> *home
[11:11] <EriC^^> Dirkos: type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:11] <Dirkos> well its an almost clean install
[11:11] <EriC^^> has it worked before?
[11:11] <Dirkos> partial
[11:11] <EriC^^> meaning?
[11:11] <RSpliet> when I "# fsck -yf /dev/sdc2 " as preparation for fs resize in Trusty, the result is a corrupted filesystem
[11:11] <k1l> Dirkos: what video card is it? and what driver is installed?
[11:11] <Dirkos> has some issues with 2 screens but was resolved after installing video drivers, after that a kernel update and now this
[11:11] <Dirkos> correct driver though
[11:11] <RSpliet> are there any known problems with either fsck or the mmc driver in trusty?
[11:12] <Dirkos> Nvidia Quadro K2200
[11:12] <EriC^^> Dirkos: try using the old kernel
[11:12] <k1l> Dirkos: make sure the kernel headers are installed for that kernel
[11:12] <Dirkos> is there anything i should look at, at the Xorg.log?
[11:13] <Dirkos> FBIOBLANK : Invalid argument is at the bottom
[11:13] <EriC^^> Dirkos: any errors, but if it happened after the kernel update, i'd just use the older kernel or try a different driver, or see what k1l suggested
[11:16] <jpds> rustx: I didn't even know that APT could do SSH
[11:20] <Dirkos> also issue with the old kernel :(
[11:20] <EriC^^> maybe it's the graphics driver
[11:21] <EriC^^> pastebin /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:21] <EriC^^> !paste
[11:24] <Afdla> I did "sudo service lightdm restart" on 15.04 and now I just get black screen with some complaining about low graphics drivers
[11:24] <Afdla> what display manager ubuntu uses and how could I revert this?
[11:24] <Afdla> I thought I was using lightdm
[11:25] <Afdla> changed the greeter, failed the way I should write it. Then i fixed it from terminal with nano, but now I get only white screen
[11:25] <inerkick> Hi team. Have anyone got whatsup on your desktop
[11:26] <Dirkos> EriC^^: will check, installing gnoe fallback atm
[11:26] <Dirkos> gnome*
[11:26] <OerHeks> inerkick, whatsapp is not in our repos, nor is this howto working https://samtinkers.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/install-whatsapp-on-ubuntu-12-04-12-10-13-04-13-10-mint-13141516/
[11:27] <Afdla> "sudo systemctl restart display-manager" got me back some ugly login screen but atleast im back in
[11:27] <OerHeks> if you find a way, let us know !
[11:27] <inerkick> I don't know , will see if it works.
[11:28] <OerHeks> inerkick, don't bother, it does not work ( see the end of the howto)
[11:29] <inerkick> ok
[11:30] <inerkick> I was checking on this one "https://github.com/tgalal/yowsup/wiki/Yowsup-2:-End-to-End-encryption"
[11:31] <inerkick> some said they released desktop version, so was finding it, OerHeks
[11:31] <NIcky65767> shut
[11:31] <NIcky65767> the fuck up
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !ops | NIcky65767 profanity / stupidit
[11:32] <NIcky65767> i will strip off your panties
[11:32] <NIcky65767> beware
[11:34] <Dirkos> EriC^^: sorry my connection dropped. The desktop is loading on GNOME but not on Ubuntu default atm
[11:34] <EriC^^> hmm
[11:35] <Dirkos> On the old kernel, the new kernel is crashing on both
[11:35] <EriC^^> try a different graphics driver maybe
[11:35] <Dirkos> The strange thing is that a collegue has exactly the same system only with a different screen
[11:35] <Dirkos> And same driver etc
[11:36] <Dirkos> But if Gnome works, why should a driver fix it?
[11:36] <EriC^^> maybe the driver doesn't work well with unity
[11:36] <k1l> Dirkos: what driver? what driver exactly? what ubuntu exactly? what desktop?
[11:36] <EriC^^> and compiz
[11:37] <k1l> Dirkos: details matter
[11:37] <Dirkos> k1l: ubuntu 15.04
[11:37] <EriC^^> type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[11:37] <Dirkos> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77525/en-us
[11:37] <Dirkos> this is the driver
[11:37] <k1l> Dirkos: why dont you use the driver from the ubuntu repo?
[11:38] <k1l> Dirkos: so you dont have that issue every time you update the kernel
[11:38] <Dirkos> ok will install the  other one from apt
[11:38] <k1l> but remove the one first
[11:38] <Dirkos> EriC^^: driver is listed there
[11:39] <Dirkos> what is the easiest way to remove it k1l ?
[11:39] <k1l> and gnome-fallback might have worked because it doesnt need 3d drivers to work.
[11:39] <Dirkos> since it was a .run file
[11:39] <k1l> Dirkos: the nvidia.run should have a uninstall command
[11:39] <paws> i have two network cards plug in my ubuntu on two separate networks. They are both picking up ips, but when i try to ping -I eth1 google.ca it wont respond, eth0 responds no problem. What could be the problem?
[11:39] <k1l> --uninstall at the end
[11:40] <Afdla> what is the ubuntu 15.04 display manager?
[11:40] <Afdla> lightdm not working
[11:40] <Afdla> im stuck in terminal
[11:40] <k1l> Afdla: what ubuntu exactly? kubuntu, xubuntu ,...?
[11:40] <vishnu_> does any one know how to change fonts of lxde menu
[11:40] <Afdla> basic ubuntu, though I've installed xfce4
[11:40] <Afdla> and removed unity
[11:41] <k1l> Afdla: ok, should still be lightdm (i know ony kubuntu uses a different dm since 15.04)
[11:41] <Dirkos> k1l: thanks, will install it from aptitude
[11:41] <Dirkos> connection here is limited so will take a while though
[11:41] <Dirkos> 135 kb/s lol
[11:41] <k1l> Afdla: what tell the logs? you said you changed lightdm stuff, is that the cause?
[11:41] <Afdla> yea I tried to change the greeter
[11:42] <WG1337> HI! If I want to mirror 2 files to different (local) location, can rsync do that? But I want to have a instant update. So each time file is changed - sync it.
[11:42] <Afdla> but forgot the [something] from above it
[11:42] <Afdla> then restarted lightdm and boom
[11:42] <Afdla> I got to desktop now but the login screen is just white
[11:43] <Afdla> I even reverted the greeter change removing the lines
[11:43] <k1l> WG1337: see if the suggestions here lead to a solution for you: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/31905/real-time-local-file-sync
[11:44] <k1l> Afdla: hmm. so all the configs are back to original?
[11:44] <Afdla> should be, yea
[11:44] <Afdla> only thing I changed was the greeter but I removed it already
[11:45] <Afdla> tried rebooting and now it says "authentication is required for rebooting the system"?
[11:46] <Afdla> oh reboot helped
[11:46] <Afdla> now the login screen is back
[11:50] <k1l> good to hear. maybe there was just something still in the cache
[11:50] <TLE> Hallo everybody, any recommendations on a 802.11ac compatible preferably 2.4 and 5 GHz usb wif dongle with IN KERNEL drivers?
[11:53] <stereoit_> Hello, is there a way to create a repository from installed package? I have system A where with access to internet and I am running isntall package-X (this brings several dependencies). Now I would like install the same package-X on system B withouth access to the internet. So I was thinking on creating repository from just installed pacakges and then on system-B install from this repo. Is this doable?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> stereoit_, sounds like setting up your own local repos might be the better solution
[11:54] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:54] <OerHeks> TLE,  there is no list of devices, but there is a list of chipsets that support opensourcedrivershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers
[11:54] <paws> $ sudo ip route add 10.10.0.0/24 dev eth1 src 10.10.0.10 table rt2 || RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
[11:55] <paws> why am i getting invalid argument ?
[11:55] <EriC^^> stereoit_: can you get temporary access to the internet to download one package?
[11:55] <EriC^^> !aptoncd
[11:55] <stereoit_> cfhowlett: OK, but how I convert "install package-X" into own repo with all dependincies?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> stereoit_, no idea.
[11:55] <stereoit_> EriC^^: noep, I can push only files via scp
[11:55] <EriC^^> stereoit_: you need internet access to install aptoncd though, maybe if you get it and it's dependencies on a usb or something it would work i guess
[11:56] <EriC^^> stereoit_: try aptoncd maybe
[11:56] <h0mer> download the packages into a separate folder
[11:56] <Dirkos> Ok i install the driver nvidia-current from aptitude
[11:57] <EriC^^> stereoit_: push it's .deb and install it
[11:57] <Dirkos> im not able to login, he accept the login and sends me back to login screen
[11:57] <Dirkos> On kernel 3.19.0-15-generic
[11:57] <stereoit_> EriC^^: well, it could be one package requires 150 debs, I do use --print-uris for the moment, but it is hard to maintain
[11:58] <TLE> OerHeks: thanks, I had hoped for a suggestion for just a few actual models, but I guess I can probably work my way to that
[12:00] <acetakwas> Guys please come to my rescue!
[12:00] <khax> hm
[12:01] <acetakwas> My Ubuntu 13 is messed up
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> acetakwas  13.04 and 13.10 are dead, that's why
[12:02] <acetakwas> Unity isn't on my system anymore
[12:02] <acetakwas> I can't update with apt successfully
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> acetakwas  upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[12:03] <acetakwas> I don't have another version right now
[12:03] <stereoit_> seems the aptoncd is a right tool
[12:03] <acetakwas> so a temporary fix would do
[12:03] <naftilos76> Hi, i am on lm cinnamon and apache server while it restarts fine manually after booting it does not auto start as it should . It is there in the /etc/rc.X . I have even used update-rc.d to remove them and re-create the links with update-rc.d and defaults. If i use "service apache2 start" in rc.local it starts normally, otherwise i have to start it manually. Can anybody help?
[12:04] <Fudge> hi anyone having very high cpu usage in trusty all of a suddgen and inability to log into a gnoem DE
[12:04] <siddharth030> which partition to choose all files in one or separate
[12:04] <siddharth030> please help
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> Fudge  I had that too ... install indicator-cpufreq
[12:05] <siddharth030> separate /home partition separate /home,/usr,/var,/tmp partition
[12:05] <siddharth030> which option will be ebst
[12:05] <acetakwas> Besides if I upgraded, I would have to reinstall ALL my applications. That's no small data.
[12:05] <siddharth030> my hdd is 42gb
[12:05] <Fudge> will look at it MonkeyDust
[12:05] <Fudge> 4.0 loads for barely aything
[12:06] <Dirkos> EriC^^: Failed to load Nvidia kernel module is what im receiving in Xorg.log
[12:06] <meatie> trace/bench all the things.
[12:09] <Fudge> MonkeyDust:  I do use cpufreqd but not the indicator, how ditusing teh indicator help you mate?
[12:10] <Fatar> what's the command to know where a shortcut leads to?
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> Fudge  indicator-cpufreq lets me change the cpu mode with a single click ... Conservative / Ondemand / Powersave / Performance
[12:11] <McEE> try ls -l
[12:12] <bq_> i have a domain name on godaddy now I want its subdomain pointing to a server on AWS, how do i do that?
[12:13] <Fatar> nope mcEE that didn't work
[12:13] <Fudge> MonkeyDust:  its interesint that thsi install cpufreqd is not making my cpu run at full speed as i want from this core 2 duo. it runs at 2.1ghz instead of 2.8
[12:14] <Fudge> apt-mirror is really easy to use
[12:14] <McEE> Fud
[12:15] <McEE> Fudge:  better is like what openSUSE does..., shipping all packets on dvd by default..
[12:15] <Fudge> McEE:  that's great at time of release but easily depricated as time goes on. taking longer to load your live image for obselete packages
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Fudge  i guess 'performance' mode can handle that ... the indicator also lets me switch between different GHz
[12:16] <Fudge> thanks MonkeyDust
[12:17] <Fudge> this is like using a system with no cache, i have to track down what it is
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Fudge  hint: use psensor to monitor your cpu temperature
[12:19] <Fudge> CPU Temperature:    +41.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Fudge  that better than here
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> that's*
[12:20] <Fudge> its just an old system
[12:20] <Fudge> it cuold be something with the vivid kernel im using
[12:20] <Fudge> 3.19-25 i think
[12:21] <McEE> How do i get apt-mirror to work, without using "sudo"-command ?
[12:21] <jpds> McEE: Make it write to a directory a user can write to?
[12:22] <McEE> jpds, a nice guess...
[12:22] <jpds> McEE: Problem with putting things on a DVD is that an Ubuntu release is about... 100G worth of data
[12:31] <Dirkos> Im a bit lost here, running kernel 3.19.0-25-generic with the NVIDIA 352.30 driver
[12:31] <Dirkos> getting stuck in the login loop
[12:31] <Dirkos> xorg shows me that the kernel driver module could not be loaded
[12:32] <Dirkos> whats next?
[12:32] <McEE> and shipping a nice selection of software,,.. , does not prevent from offering an online-repository
[12:32] <McEE> like openSUSE does..
[12:33] <k1l> are we done with "suse is the best OS in the world"?
[12:33] <k1l> Dirkos: still the nvidia website driver?
[12:34] <Dirkos> no
[12:34] <Dirkos> also with the nvidia current
[12:34] <k1l> Dirkos: yes, 346 is the latest is see in the ubuntu repos
[12:34] <Dirkos> and nvidia 346
[12:34] <Dirkos> well the 352 is on the nvidia website which seems to be newer
[12:35] <k1l> Dirkos: then please dont mix that. did you remove the bad nvidia website driver properly before installing the official ubuntu one?
[12:35] <Dirkos> but im a bit lost now tbh
[12:35] <k1l> Dirkos: yeah, the latest is not the best. especially if it doesnt work
[12:35] <Dirkos> yeah well lets try it again, i removed the old one (uninstall)
[12:35] <Dirkos> which one is suggested? Current or 346?
[12:36] <ioria> ubuntu-drivers list
[12:37] <k1l> 346 should be fine from the repo
[12:38] <Dirkos> installing now
[12:39] <Dirkos> done and now rebooting
[12:40] <Dirkos> k1l: ok no login loop but just my desktop and a mouse
[12:40] <Dirkos> without any menus etc
[12:41] <Dirkos> Thing is that it is working on GNOME
[12:41] <k1l> look into the dmesg and xorg log (or put them in a pastebin and show the link here)
[12:41] <Dirkos> well its on a different system so its not that easy to copy/paste
[12:41] <k1l> Dirkos: gnome-fallback is not a proper 3d desktop. dont call it gnome since that is confusing it  with gneom-shell
[12:42] <Dirkos> sorry gnome fallback indeed
[12:42] <k1l> you can boot into gnome-fallback if that is more convenient for you. and get that logs to a pastebin from there.
[12:42] <k1l> the 3d driver errors should be the same in the logs
[12:43] <k1l> log destination is /var/log/
[12:43] <Dirkos> yeah let me try
[12:46] <SCHAAP137> http://www.gfi.com/blog/47-reasons-to-thank-a-sysadmin/
[12:47] <Dirkos_> k1l: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c197e7a0c1c8208826f5
[12:47] <Dirkos_> here is the Xorg log
[12:50] <christiansl2> hi. did anyone upgrade from 14.04.2 to 14.04.3? i got some dependency and conflict issues
[12:50] <k1l> is it a hybrid card? Dirkos_
[12:51] <jasem_> i had a problem reconnecting to a xrdp session after i changed my password. ssh was working fine, is there other solution than killing xrdp session
[12:51] <Dirkos_> nvidia quadro k2200 4gb
[12:51] <k1l> christiansl2: running the regular updates will bring you to .3 its more like a "servicepack" stage.
[12:51] <Dirkos_> how can i determine if its hybrid? Its a normal PCE card if im correct
[12:51] <k1l> christiansl2: can you show the command and the errors in a pastebin?
[12:51] <k1l> Dirkos_: ok, so no nvidia-prime technology
[12:52] <Dirkos_> no not as i know, just a random PCE card
[12:52] <christiansl2> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11973120/
[12:52] <OerHeks> christiansl2, i thought 14.04.3 will be released 6 august 2015 .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:53] <k1l> Dirkos_: can you show a "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" in a pastebin?
[12:53] <_ZED_> hey
[12:53] <christiansl2> OerHeks: updated my notebook yesterday from 14.04.1 as described https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[12:54] <k1l> christiansl2: hmm, so you want the vivid enablement stack.
[12:54] <k1l> christiansl2: do you have PPAs enabled?
[12:54] <christiansl2> some, but no system ppas
[12:55] <Dirkos_> k1l: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e3522d6f036140f7d16f
[12:55] <k1l> christiansl2: xorg-renamed-package-lts-utopic seems like causing a lot of issues
[12:55] <_ZED_> having a problem here... i have the right keyboard layout but some keys are switched
[12:56] <k1l> Dirkos_: hmm. does another user or guest account work?
[12:56] <Dirkos_> no really
[12:56] <Dirkos_> there is 1 user
[12:56] <_ZED_> anybody had the same problem?
[12:56] <Dirkos_> and same happens on guest
[12:57] <ds_solanki> :)
[12:58] <christiansl2> k1l: maybe there is no upgrade path atm from vivid as 14.04.3 is scheduled for august?
[12:59] <ds_solanki> O:-)
[12:59] <k1l> Dirkos_: the k2200 is supported since the 340.32 kernel. so that should not be an issue on that side.
[12:59] <k1l> Dirkos_: can you look into ".xsession-errors" in the users home?
[13:00] <k1l> Dirkos_: need to leave now for a bit. so maybe other can help with spotting the error. i guess the .xsession-errors should show something
[13:00] <k1l> christiansl2: would be worth a bug report.
[13:01] <Dirkos_> checking
[13:01] <christiansl2> k1l: looks like i am not alone with the problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/654920/cant-upgrade-ubuntu-enablement-stack
[13:01] <christiansl2> ich will wait some days and check the progress
[13:02] <Horseface> hi
[13:03] <Horseface> The sudoers file on my system was accsessed yesterday. What can be the reason for that?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> _ZED_  start with this   sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[13:10] <Guest8775> ciao
[13:10] <Guest8775> !list
[13:11] <zaggynl> what is it with those it folks doing cia list
[13:12] <zaggynl> is irc warez still big there?
[13:12] <rory> zaggynl: IRC is used a lot in Italy for filesharing. They have clients which send a !list" automatically
[13:12] <Guest8775> ciao
[13:12] <zaggynl> so it is? oh man
[13:13] <Guest8775> !list
[13:13] <zaggynl> no
[13:13] <Ranieri_> Best program to make a live usb?
[13:13] <rory> Guest8775: They won't reply, they're bots
[13:13] <rory> Ranieri_: the one that comes with Ubuntu
[13:13] <Ranieri_> rory: startup disk creator?
[13:13] <rory> Ranieri_: Startup Disk Creator (usb-creator-gtk)
[13:13] <Ranieri_> ahh
[13:13] <Ranieri_> kk
[13:13] <zaggynl> rory: any tutorials into that? I'm curious
[13:15] <Dirkos_> my xsession-errors https://gist.github.com/anonymous/44b7217134984f6893b4
[13:15] <Dirkos_> Anyone who knows where to look next?
[13:24] <cy4n> .
[13:24] <stereoit_> How do I ask apt-get to install ONLY (temporarily) from my custom repository? I have added this "deb file:/data/repo ./" to "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/myrepo.list"
[13:28] <acovrig> I have iptables as such https://gist.github.com/acovrig/69fb41256b2ace1f2724 I’m trying to allow clients to hit <eth0 public IP>:5222 and it route to 192.168.5.4:5222, it doesn’t seem to be happening, any ideas why?
[13:29] <havinagiggle> hi guys, i have a problem with my touchpad in ubuntu mate 15.04 on a Thinkpad S440, it takes a while till it activates if i move my finger over the touchpad i think this is a energy saving artifact?
[13:29] <havinagiggle> how do i solve this problem?
[13:37] <Ranieri_> Startup Disk Creator says 'copying files'
[13:37] <Ranieri_> It's not burning the ISO I don't think
[13:47] <G0> Hey, it's a good idea use Shred to 'clear' the HD ?
[13:47] <easyOnMe> hello
[13:48] <daftykins> easyOnMe: welcome back
[13:48] <easyOnMe> daftykins: yeah
[13:48] <easyOnMe> thanks
[13:49] <easyOnMe> daftykins: just want to ask how do I know the password of the root user in my ubuntu laptop secondly how do I know whether a particular user belongs to the group sudoer
[13:49] <daftykins> !root
[13:49] <daftykins> never set a root password.
[13:49] <daftykins> running "groups" or "id user" would show whether a given user is permitted to use sudo or not
[13:50] <IAmAnOwl> Hey guys, quick question
[13:50] <IAmAnOwl> I’m want to install Ubuntu on an SSD which previously boots Windows8.1. I want to erase that and just install ubuntu.
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> G0  in a terminal, type this and follow instructions:   srm
[13:51] <IAmAnOwl> However, when I tried to do that, a warning message came up: /dev/sda contains got signatures, indicating that it has a get table. However, it does not have a valid fake mdse. partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted - possibly by a program that doesn’t understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are no
[13:51] <IAmAnOwl> w using an mdse. partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?
[13:51] <IAmAnOwl> What should I do?
[13:51] <IAmAnOwl> Click Yes or No?
[13:51] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=50"
[13:51] <daftykins> run that, reboot, install.
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> G0  keep it in the channel please
[13:52] <IAmAnOwl> daftykins However, i have yet to install ubuntu
[13:52] <IAmAnOwl> how can i run the command?
[13:52] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: yeah so run this from the live session.
[13:52] <IAmAnOwl> ah ok
[13:52] <daftykins> you have to boot media to install.
[13:52] <IAmAnOwl> what does that command do?
[13:53] <daftykins> writes zeroes to the first 100MB of the disk
[13:53] <daftykins> nuking it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
[13:53] <IAmAnOwl> why does it need to write zeroes?
[13:53] <daftykins> it doesn't, it could write disney lyrics if you really want
[13:53] <G0> I think it'nt a good idea
[13:53] <daftykins> this is just the simplest practical application.
[13:54] <G0> It's better write with randomic bytes
[13:54] <daftykins> G0: totally stupid and won't work on an SSD unless you fully fill it over anyway.
[13:54] <daftykins> we're not achieving data security here, we're nuking the partition table to clean install
[13:54] <IAmAnOwl> daftykins what's the reason that caused ubuntu to give this warning message? I've installed it a couple of times but I've never got that warning before
[13:55] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: the partition table was left over from Windows, it's not too keen about that.
[13:55] <daftykins> just do the above and all will be well
[13:55] <daftykins> you could've been done by now
[13:55] <daftykins> :)
[13:55] <easyOnMe> daftykins: wow thanks for the info all along I have been dying to reset root password
[13:55] <easyOnMe> lol
[13:55] <IAmAnOwl> daftykins Alrighty. Thanks!
[13:55] <daftykins> easyOnMe: running "sudo -i" and entering your password will switch to root@ if you've been getting tired of typing 'sudo' repeatedly. bear in mind that you're more likely to break things if you do though
[13:56] <daftykins> !pm | G0 Bad netiquette
[13:58] <easyOnMe> daftykins: ok thanks but I think I'd rather follow the advice of typing sudo to prevent messing up my linux I had my fair share of reinstalling ubuntu and go through the arduous process of reconfiguring things in the laptop because of my noob mistake I did last December
[13:58] <daftykins> easyOnMe: wise decision
[13:58] <resc_user_2782> hi
[13:59] <sidi> Is there a URL for the ubuntu keyserver that directly downloads the key? not looking for the CLI command or (http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=...), just a direct download URL
[13:59] <resc_user_2782> got no kernel on my machine, i unistall them all by mistake. can some body help me
[14:00] <IAmAnOwl> daftykins Can I just format the whole ssd from the live ssd? When I tried to do that, I was given a choice of FAT, NTFS or Ext4. Which one should I choose if I want to format the whole disk?
[14:00] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: bad idea.
[14:00] <IAmAnOwl> I mean live ubuntu not live ssd
[14:00] <daftykins> just do what i said
[14:00] <IAmAnOwl> reason?
[14:00] <daftykins> you don't want to unnecessarily waste writes to an SSD
[14:01] <daftykins> read up on how they work for a why.
[14:01] <IAmAnOwl> ah i see. I know the reason
[14:01] <IAmAnOwl> However, how does writing 100mb to the disk change how ubuntu will install?
[14:01] <IAmAnOwl> or more specifically what does writing 100mb does specifically?
[14:02] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: i already said, it deletes all traces of the partition table
[14:03] <Ranieri_> Getting a 'connection activation failed'
[14:03] <Ranieri_> I'm using a dlink usb network adapter
[14:03] <IAmAnOwl> daftykins Oh, right
[14:03] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: your error was about seeing GPT remnants
[14:04] <resc_user_2782> hello ive got lvmluks encryption on my systen and need to install kernel from livbe cd. any idea
[14:09] <IAmAnOwl> daftykins It worked. Thank you!
[14:09] <daftykins> IAmAnOwl: :)
[14:11] <easyOnMe> learnBash@erwin-M720SRS:~$ sudo apt-get update
[14:11] <easyOnMe> [sudo] password for learnBash:
[14:11] <easyOnMe> learnBash is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[14:11] <easyOnMe> What does the sentence "This incident will be reported." report to who?
[14:12] <daftykins> log file.
[14:15] <programar> hi
[14:15] <G0> H
[14:16] <newUbuntu> Brightness slider and audio missing after installing wine 1.6. System = ubuntu 14.04 LTS Trusty tahr
[14:17] <mirc32> i love ubuntu lol
[14:21] <marvindep> hi, I have a problem with photo camera (samsung galaxy s5). the error is "Could not claim the USB device", can somebody halp me?
[14:22] <marvindep> help
[14:26] <EriC^^>  /j #linux
[14:27] <ivank> is java 8 ever going to be supported on 14.04 LTS?
[14:28] <daftykins> ivank: already is, no? you have to get it from oracle
[14:29] <ivank> daftykins: i mean in terms of there being debs available in the official repo
[14:29] <daftykins> well it's not open source so no, never.
[14:29] <zykotick9> ivank: oracle prevents anyone from distributing java except themselves
[14:30] <daftykins> that's basically like asking if Windows is in the repos :D
[14:31] <ivank> ok, let me more specific then. will there ever be a openjdk-8-jre package for 14.04?
[14:32] <daftykins> i doubt oracle will package one, they've got an installer package
[14:32] <daftykins> just use that
[14:32] <daftykins> i don't see the problem....
[14:34] <ivank> the problem is that if you want to distribute a package for ubuntu 14.04 that depends on java8, it's not possible. and businesses often only use 14.04 on servers, since it's LTS
[14:38] <daftykins> ivank: yeah, so i guess don't develope for oracle java... or make an install script.
[14:38] <daftykins> i forget whether oracle offer a PPA with the installer, i think they do
[14:38] <daftykins> or maybe i just got it from webupd8 repos in the past
[14:39] <BitFire> hi guys!
[14:39] <daftykins> lo
[14:39] <BitFire> news  ?
[14:40] <Geogts> when i do sudo apt-get update, i get a few things like "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages
[14:40] <Geogts>   404  Not Found" and "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages
[14:40] <Geogts>   404  Not Found".   how do i fix this issue?
[14:40] <daftykins> BitFire: news? this is an OS support channel, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:40] <BitFire> kkkkkkkkk
[14:44] <BitFire> hey geogts: see your source.list in /etc/apt/source.list and coment this line 'http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64'
[14:45] <BitFire> and execute 'sudo apt-get update' again
[14:46] <Ranieri_> quit
[14:46] <Ranieri_> woops
[14:48] <Geogts> BitFire: thanks for your response but i can't find trust/main amd64 in the file.
[14:49] <BitFire> show me your source.list
[14:49] <Geogts> i have main restricted and other things in there but not the offending entry
[14:51] <Geogts> BitFire: did you get the list i sent you?  it said i left the room for excess flood
[14:52] <BitFire> send me its file!
[14:52] <EriC^^> Geogts: try /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:52] <Pires_R> Teste
[14:52] <EriC^^> it should be one of those
[14:52] <somsip> !paste | Geogts
[14:54] <EriC^^> Geogts: paste the following,for i in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*; do echo -e "$i\n"; cat "$i"; done | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:56] <Geogts> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11973786/
[14:56] <Geogts> ok, i tried to send you the file BitFire but i guess it never went through so i pasted it
[14:57] <Geogts> EriC^^: i'm not sure what you mean.  paste "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*; do echo -e "$i\n"; cat "$i"; done | nc termbin.com 9999"  to where?
[14:57] <EriC^^> Geogts: paste the line starting with for ... til 9999
[14:57] <Geogts> i'm so sorry guys.  i probably don't belong on a lubuntu computer.  i'm so slow
[14:57] <EriC^^> for i in .... 9999
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> Geogts  paste it in a terminal window, the command line prompt
[14:58] <Geogts> http://termbin.com/o9en
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> Geogts  that's a lot of ppa's... midori is in the repo's, no need for a ppa
[15:00] <Geogts> MonkeyDust: yeah, i wanted a snappy browser so i tried lots of them.  i don't use midori anymore
[15:00] <Geogts> i used it for like 10 min
[15:00] <Geogts> that and qupzilla
[15:01] <OerHeks> Geogts, time to check all those ppaś, https://launchpad.net/~speed-dreams/+archive/ubuntu/ppa has no trusty candidates etc etc etc
[15:03] <Guest9212> hello
[15:03] <G0> Hi
[15:04] <BitFire> ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main
[15:04] <Guest9212> what irc client does everyone use?
[15:04] <Guest9212> im using irssi its pretty great
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Guest9212, everyone?  please don't take polls here
[15:04] <OerHeks> Geogts, https://launchpad.net/~szymonw/+archive/ubuntu/ppa also, and https://launchpad.net/~sonkun/+archive/ubuntu/sfml-stable too
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Guest9212, if you found one that works, then use it.
[15:05] <Guest9212> yeah thats true but I kinda just went with the first one I found
[15:05] <giray> i have a question people
[15:05] <daftykins> giray: how many guesses do we get?
[15:05] <giray> i am trying to install ubuntu
[15:05] <cfhowlett> Guest9212, "everyone" = over 1000 people in this channel.  we really don't need 1000 responses to your question when you already have an answer, right?
[15:05] <daftykins> right...
[15:05] <Guest9212> what os are you one right now?
[15:05] <giray> and as a disk i have only 1 ssd that is 120 gbs
[15:05] <giray> windows 7
[15:06] <Geogts> OerHeks: can i just delete the file from the sources.list.d folder or is there a different way i need to remove them?
[15:06] <Guest9212> cfhowlett, thats pretty true
[15:06] <cfhowlett> giray, more than enough space.  do you want to keep win7?
[15:06] <daftykins> giray: use win7 to resize your install 20GB less, then install ubuntu beside perhaps.
[15:06] <OerHeks> Geogts, use ppa purge
[15:06] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[15:06] <giray> but i have already 90 gbs filled
[15:06] <Guest9212> yeah giray you need like 6 GB for ubuntu
[15:07] <cfhowlett> giray, 100 for win7, the rest for ubuntu then.
[15:07] <giray> but the disk isnt partitioned
[15:07] <Guest9212> you will want more for software but just os is 6GB
[15:07] <giray> there is only c volume
[15:07] <giray> does that make a problem
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | giray, ubuntu should offer to partition for you.
[15:07] <Guest9212> nope just partition it in windows
[15:08] <Guest9212> you will also most likely be asked if you want to install next to windows in ubuntu anyways
[15:08] <OerHeks> leave the space empty, don't follow the suggestion of Guest9212 to let windows do partitioning, as it cannot handle ext4
[15:08] <daftykins> OerHeks: +1
[15:08] <daftykins> Guest9212: please don't give bad advice.
[15:08] <cfhowlett> giray, the dualboot factoid explains exactly what you need to do.  I strongly suggest you read it.
[15:09] <Guest9212> I dont mean FORMATTING I mean partitioning
[15:09] <daftykins> Guest9212: still unwise.
[15:09] <Guest9212> why?
[15:09] <Guest9212> it just shrinks the disk space
[15:09] <giray> cfhowlett thx readin right now
[15:10] <Guest9212> and thats weird that it does not handle ext4
[15:10] <cfhowlett> Guest9212, it's windows.  no reason why it should be expected to handle anything not from microsoft.
[15:13] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: daftykins why it is bad to let windows handle partition resizing of a NTFS partition?
[15:14] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, ntfs partitions sure.  ext* no.
[15:14] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: we aren't talking about ext partitions though
[15:14] <daftykins> tgm4883: i never claimed it was, this guest is confused.
[15:14] <daftykins> i was the one, if you read up, who suggested having Windows resize itself.
[15:15] <tgm4883> daftykins: ah yes you were
[15:18] <coy> hi
[15:18] <giray> cfhowlett
[15:18] <cfhowlett> giray, ? yes?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> coy, ask your ubuntu question
[15:18] <giray> i also get a message that says conflict detected with stolen region
[15:18] <giray> while booting
[15:18] <coy> wrong window
[15:18] <cfhowlett> giray, wait, what??
[15:19] <giray> i have the .iso file and i burnt it
[15:19] <danportin> What is the most likely reason that I can connect via ssh to a machine locally (behind a router with port forwarding) but not remotely. When I attempt to connect from an external network, ssh reports 'connection refused
[15:19] <cfhowlett> giray, right and ?
[15:19] <Noth> Hi !
[15:19] <Pires_R> Hello
[15:19] <giray> when i restart my pc and pick ubuntu to run i get that message
[15:20] <cfhowlett> giray, never seen it before.  looks like a DVD error, not an ubuntu error
[15:20] <cfhowlett> but I could be wrong.
[15:20] <Noth> On stuck on a "stupid" problem : I'm setting up a monitoring system (sensu). My script used to check running process is run with the "sensu" user.
[15:20] <giray> i dont have it as a cd
[15:20] <giray> i only burn it with daemon tools
[15:20] <cfhowlett> giray, "burned it ..." to WHAT?
[15:20] <Noth> Sadly, the "sensu" user can only see its own processes..
[15:20] <giray> to a virt
[15:21] <giray> to a virtual disk
[15:21] <Noth> and I definitively don't want to run my checks as root...
[15:21] <cfhowlett> giray, and what virtual manager are you running?  I'm assuming it's in windows?
[15:21] <giray> is it a must that i have the cd
[15:21] <anyoneuno> lol
[15:21] <giray> yes in windows
[15:21] <cfhowlett> giray, which one?
[15:21] <Silenced_v2> WinstonSmith: 6
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> Noth  now put all those lines in one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[15:22] <giray> what u mean by virtual manager
[15:22] <Noth> MonkeyDust: ok, let's concatenate ;)
[15:22] <giray> cfhowlett
[15:22] <cfhowlett> giray, did you use the wubi installer?
[15:22] <giray> yes
[15:22] <giray> it says wubi
[15:22] <Noth> I'm stuck on a "stupid" problem : I'm setting up a monitoring system (sensu). My script used to check running process is run with the "sensu" user. Sadly, the "sensu" user can only see its own processes and I definitively don't want to run my checks as root. Does anyone hve some clues ?
[15:23]  * MonkeyDust burns wubi ritually on a funeral pyre
[15:23] <cfhowlett> giray, DO NOT EVER USE WUBI AGAIN!  1.  it's broken.  2.  It's not supported  3.  it's not dualbot
[15:23] <cfhowlett> dualbot
[15:23] <giray> so shud i download another thing then?
[15:23] <cfhowlett> giray, make a bootable USB with your ubuntu iso, BOOT the usb and install NEXT TO ubuntu.
[15:24] <giray> ok pal lemme try that
[15:24] <giray> thx so much btw
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> giray  wubi is a pseudo installation that causes more problems than frustration
[15:25] <giray> hmm
[15:25] <giray> ok
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> giray  wubi is similar to non-alcoholic beer: nobody knows why it was ever invented
[15:26] <giray> LOL
[15:26] <cfhowlett> giray, alloe me to ever so gently chide you, wubi is mentioned NO WHERE on the dualboot wiki ...
[15:26] <giray> well its a shame that its there then
[15:26] <cfhowlett> giray, that you SAID you read ...
[15:26] <giray> when i search for download ubuntu its the 1st thing that comes up
[15:27] <cfhowlett> giray, not from ubuntu.com it doesn't
[15:27] <giray> i was readin then i stopped to tell u that error
[15:27] <giray> i downloaded it from ubuntu
[15:27] <giray> ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:27] <cfhowlett> moving on ...
[15:27] <giray> i downloaded this
[15:27] <OerHeks> !wubi
[15:28] <tgm4883> giray: please link me the page that says wubi
[15:28] <giray> wait
[15:29] <OerHeks> wubi is still available on the 15.04 iso, i understand the confusion
[15:29] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, yep.  that's why I mentally cursed canonical
[15:30] <giray> tgm4883
[15:30] <giray> http://postimg.org/image/niql73sq9/
[15:30] <OerHeks> wubi 'was' nice to try, but when one failure comes, it is hopeless to fix
[15:30] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, I'd go a step further and suggest continued inclusion of wubi in the .iso = bug
[15:30] <giray> it says wubi.exe
[15:31] <tgm4883> giray: that's not a webpage, but ok
[15:31] <cfhowlett> giray, read the dualboot wiki completely
[15:31] <giray> ok i am readin it
[15:32] <tgm4883> You know, you would think with all the complaining they do about the ISO size they would remove the 2.5MB unsupported binary
[15:33] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/1385930
[15:33] <OerHeks> lots of them
[15:34] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, it should be removed, purged, buried, staked and nuked from orbit.  But that's just my opinion.
[15:34] <OerHeks> IF wubi is still on the 16.04 .. i might switch distro
[15:34] <tgm4883> OerHeks: well that's the bug we deserve, but not the bug we need. We need a bug that says "Yo dawg, the WUBI is still on the ISOz"
[15:34] <k1l_> IMHO, "someone" needs to make a mail to ubuntu-devel-discuss and express what the supporters think of it.
[15:34] <OerHeks> tmgfile a bugreport, i shall confirm, young lad :-D
[15:35] <tgm4883> OerHeks: I'm looking to see if one already exists
[15:36] <Bombo> hi
[15:39] <Amoz> n
[15:41] <Zequal> I am trying to determining 'how' Ubuntu 15.04 is working with the Microsoft Surface Pro 3's touchscreen. It seems to be the only Linux distribution to have this working, is anyone here familiar with this area?
[15:41] <Zequal> s/determining/determine
[15:44] <OerHeks> Zequal, all i know is this post about getting stuff to work http://www.carlos-roque.com/2015/04/25/dual-boot-gnome-ubuntu-15-04-on-a-surface-pro-3/
[15:44] <Bombo> how do i determine if the ubuntu i'm connected to via ssh is server or desktop version?
[15:45] <OerHeks> no mention of special touch tweaks
[15:45] <Bombo> $ lsb_release -d Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[15:45] <tgm4883> Bombo: You could check if graphical stuff is installed
[15:45] <cfhowlett> Bombo, dpkg -l | grep unity
[15:46] <Bombo> i want to upgrade to 15.04 i read do-release-upgrade is just for server versions?
[15:46] <cfhowlett> Bombo, no that's for all *buntus.  what is your current buntu version?
[15:46] <Bombo> tgm4883: ok so i got desktop version
[15:46] <tgm4883> Bombo: no, they are the same. where did you read that
[15:46] <Zequal> OerHeks: In that post, touchscreen is not discussed in any details. As it is 'already' working in Ubuntu 15.04 without intervention.
[15:46] <Bombo> tgm4883: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[15:47] <Bombo> cfhowlett: 17:45 <Bombo> $ lsb_release -d Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[15:47] <tgm4883> Bombo: that doesn't say that it's only for server versions, that says that for server versions, the recommended way is do-release-upgrade
[15:47] <OerHeks> Zequal, yes, so i have no clue why other distros do not work as well .. no point really to find out anyway
[15:47] <cfhowlett> Bombo, that is a Long Term Support version.  Do you NEED the upgrades in 15.04?
[15:47] <Bombo> tgm4883: right
[15:48] <OerHeks> Bombo, one way is to show installed desktop packages >> dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop
[15:48] <tgm4883> Bombo: there is a difference between what you said and what I said
[15:48] <Bombo> cfhowlett: i ran into a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1346734 that seems to be fixed in 14.12
[15:48] <Zequal> OerHeks: The functionality could have been built into Ubuntu's kernel.
[15:49] <tgm4883> Bombo: are you sure you ran into that?
[15:49] <Bombo> tgm4883: but it doesn't say 'use that also for desktop version'
[15:49] <cfhowlett> Bombo, might I suggest: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade         to get the latest 14.04.2 packages before you jump to 15.04
[15:49] <Zequal> OerHeks: That was a thought, but the LiveCD loads some interesting modules like: wacom (Which is based from the upstream Linux Wacom Project.
[15:49] <tgm4883> Bombo: well that would be because you linked to the "Ubuntu Server Guide"
[15:50] <Zequal> OerHeks: I wouldn't say it's pointless, I'd like to know how it works and learn from it.
[15:50] <tgm4883> Bombo: of course the server guide isn't going to tell you how to upgrade the desktop version
[15:51] <Pici> (ftr, do-release-upgrade works just fine for desktop installs as well)
[15:51] <Bombo> tgm4883: i think so, my lxc container doesn't work and spits out several systemd errors... but i guess i know when i did the upgrade and then it works ;)
[15:52] <Bombo> tgm4883: ok i just searched for ubuntu upgrade an thats what was showing up
[15:52]  * OerHeks wonders: systemD errors on 14.04?
[15:52] <Ranieri_> My superintendent couldn't get onto the main computer that controls the fob access and cameras because he didn't know the admin password, and it was the only account (Windows 7). I created a live usb with Ubuntu, booted it, installed chntpw and reset the admin password :D He loves me now
[15:52] <Bombo> OerHeks: with lxc
[15:52] <tgm4883> Bombo: ok, but 14.04 doesn't use systemd, so looking at that bug report doesn't make a ton of sense
[15:55] <Bombo> tgm4883: hmmm no idea, i see systemd stuff in ps auxw|grep systemd
[15:55] <aktx> hi guys
[15:55] <aktx> i want to become better at ubuntu
[15:55] <BitFire> hi!
[15:55] <aktx> what do/???
[15:55] <aktx> or linux, what is that?
[15:55] <aktx> i wanna become a comp wiz!
[15:55] <tgm4883> aktx: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:55] <cfhowlett> aktx, www.fullcirclemagazine.org   download, read issue #0.  repeat for issue #1 - #100
[15:55] <Noth> Does anyone know why "ps -aux"  does not list process for all users on 12.04 (when it works fine on other versions) ?
[15:55] <Bombo> that is /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon and /lib/systemd/systemd-logind and /sbin/cgmanager --sigstop -m name=systemd
[15:55] <aktx> cfhowlett, thx
[15:56] <Bombo> don't know hot systemd works really
[15:57] <tgm4883> Bombo: yes there are some pieces of systemd in 14.04. I suppose the issue is that the bug report isn't very descriptive about what is affected. Taking it at face value, I don't think it is since it's just mentioning systemd which itself isn't in 14.04
[15:57] <tgm4883> Bombo: But hey, I'm not going to stop you from upgrading if you want, I would just suggest testing if it works in a live environment if you can before going through the trouble
[15:58] <aktx> if i wanna become better at gnu/linux
[15:58] <aktx> like more adept at tools
[15:58] <aktx> because ive used vim for a while now, but i still feel like i havent unlocked the full potential
[15:58] <aktx> its just, i dunno, perhaps somebody can read my mind here :P
[15:58] <polpo> Hi guys, I just installed kubuntu 14 on a computer, all was fine, but when I turned on the pc after a little while few applications started on their own and no desktop and panels anymore, only black screen. It is pretty weird. Help?
[15:58] <cfhowlett> aktx, obviously not.  suggest you get off IRC, read the resources and try out the programs.  lots of vim stuff in FCM.
[15:59] <aktx> polpo, can you try login via ctrl + alt + f1
[15:59] <aktx> that shoudl bring up terminal
[15:59] <aktx> cfhowlett, lol,why get off irc?
[15:59] <polpo> aktx: login is fine and starts as usual, after the login it goes black
[15:59] <tgm4883> aktx: well for one, get out of the support channel with those questions
[15:59] <cfhowlett> aktx, time to study
[15:59] <tgm4883> !OT
[16:00] <aktx> ah, sry
[16:00] <aktx> cfhowlett, ur not in #offtopic ;)
[16:01] <Bombo> tgm4883: hmmkay, i'm googling for the error a bit first i guess
[16:02] <Bombo> the error is when i run 'lxc-start -n debian32bit' 'Failed to mount cgroup at /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd: Permission denied'
[16:02] <Bombo> (running on ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit)
[16:03] <Bombo> now i'm not even sure it is a ubuntu bug or a debian bug, because i'm trying to run debian in the lxc
[16:03] <polpo> I tried restarting the pc, no good
[16:04] <OerHeks> Bombo, any linux lxc container should work. but for your experience, i suggest to upgrade to 15.04 w/systemD
[16:13] <polpo> can it be because of the nvidia drivers?
[16:15] <boze> my ubuntu laptop needs repairs, but it's my work puter so I need to make a back up work station, but the computer I wana use is my HDTV computer on windows 7 and there's no WMC if I upgrade to windows 10 so I wana build a third computer to do mythTV + xbmc, but my sony tv sends the wrong EDID and I can't get the right resolution and I'm all backed up :( </rant>
[16:15] <daftykins> polpo: boot it, drop to TTY1 and pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:15] <Amoz> polpo, try dmesg ? are you able to reach a TTY ? (ctrl+alt+f1-4)
[16:16] <daftykins> boze: that is an absolute mess of tasks all in one post
[16:16] <cfhowlett> this ^
[16:17] <Amoz> it doesn't even sound like ubuntu-related problems ^
[16:17] <polpo> Amoz: yes, I can reach the terminal, even though I ctrl+alt+fx does not work
[16:17] <polpo> I'll try to paste it, thanks
[16:17] <daftykins> boze: got a spare disk? clone your work laptop install perhaps?
[16:17] <tgm4883> boze: sounds like you just need to setup the correct info in xorg.conf
[16:18] <boze> tgm4883: for the EDID? I tried that, but nvidia doesn't seem to respect it too well
[16:18] <daftykins> nvidia respects manual EDIDs or modelines just fine
[16:18] <boze> the mode lines i mean
[16:18] <daftykins> if you do them right.
[16:18] <tgm4883> boze: for the monitor, you also need to ignore edid
[16:19] <tgm4883> boze: what tv?
[16:19] <Linnak> hi guys, is this ubuntu? https://youtu.be/Ljhm9LHLUZg?t=8m56s
[16:20] <Amoz> Linnak, probably
[16:20] <daftykins> Linnak: ^+1
[16:20] <boze> tgm4883: it is a sony bravia kdf-50e3000
[16:20] <Linnak> unity or?
[16:20] <Amoz> At least I'm pretty sure it's Gnome
[16:20] <Amoz> uhm
[16:20] <Amoz> nautilus
[16:21] <Linnak> Thanks
[16:21] <Amoz> but yeah, it's possibly unity
[16:21] <daftykins> you can see the purple computer icon inside nautilus there which looks like an ubuntu thing
[16:21] <Linnak> I just find the theme and shell now
[16:22] <Linnak> i just need to ...
[16:22] <Linnak> Gnome or unity?
[16:22] <Linnak> i know unity is just a compiz plugin, but can the gnome panel be hidden?
[16:23] <daftykins> probably turned off with some kinda customiser
[16:23] <polpo> daftykins: it is a bit difficult for me to pastebin xorg.0.conf, is there something I should look for?
[16:23] <daftykins> polpo: apt-get install pastebinit ; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:24] <daftykins> polpo: i'm not debugging a Xorg log via someone else, file or nothing. sorry.
[16:25] <polpo> daftykins: just a minute then
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Linnak  yes, you can set the left panel to autohide
[16:26] <Linnak> MonkeyDust in unity. i know, but in gnome 3?
[16:27] <Riviera> hi :)
[16:27] <daftykins> welcome
[16:28] <polpo> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11974250/
[16:28] <Riviera> is there a memcheck boot option on the installation media?  I sadly cannot test that myself right now.
[16:28] <daftykins> Riviera: sure, or just download memtest86+
[16:28] <daftykins> that has a bootable ISO too.
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Riviera, or use utility in bios
[16:29] <Riviera> daftykins: i would also need a live cd, and as mean as it is, i only have one usb stick at the moment :)
[16:29] <daftykins> polpo: you're aware you're using the open driver nouveau, then?
[16:29] <daftykins> Riviera: uh-huh, but multiple ISOs can be placed on a single flash drive
[16:29] <polpo> actually no, I wa not aware of that
[16:30] <Riviera> daftykins: i thought that wasn't particularly easy
[16:30] <polpo> Is that a problem?
[16:30] <didar> Riviera, UNetBootIn
[16:30] <daftykins> polpo: what's your nvidia card? GT210?
[16:31] <didar> Riviera, also XBoot on Windows
[16:31] <polpo> daftykins: lsbpci tells me GT216M
[16:32] <Riviera> didar: ah cool, thanks a lot
[16:32] <daftykins> polpo: cool, close enough
[16:32] <daftykins> polpo: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" please
[16:33] <didar> np
[16:33] <geet> exit
[16:34] <polpo> daftykins: it tells me that I'm trying to send an empty document
[16:34] <daftykins> polpo: ok, just checking
[16:34] <daftykins> polpo: have you tested whether the guest session has the same issue?
[16:35] <polpo> daftykins: actually not, I'll try right away
[16:35] <daftykins> cool :)
[16:36] <polpo> daftykins: guest works fine. I feel a bit confused =D
[16:36] <daftykins> polpo: ok some config in your user account has killed it by the sounds
[16:37] <daftykins> polpo: two choices: either look up where KDE stores its' configs and rename those folders to give you a blank slate, or do the shotgun approach of resetting everything via "mv ~/.config ~/.configold"
[16:38] <daftykins> the above will hide your configs - you can just copy individual programs back from .configold -> .config to get them back
[16:38] <Ranieri_> Hey, I'm looking to legally hack my own WPA2 router.
[16:38] <polpo> daftykins: thanks, I'll try to rename the folder and reboot =)
[16:38] <Ranieri_> Is there any good software for this?
[16:39] <daftykins> Ranieri_: sorry, we don't support that conversation here.
[16:39] <Ranieri_> daftykins: oh
[16:39] <cfhowlett> Ranieri_, wrong channel
[16:39] <Ranieri_> daftykins: networking?
[16:39] <artois> Ranieri_: heaps
[16:39] <daftykins> ##networking or perhaps #kali-linux
[16:39] <Ranieri_> iight thanks guys
[16:39] <artois> probably won't be much fun/work if WPS is enabled, though
[16:41] <Ranieri_> How do I check what wireless card I have on this shitty ass Thinkpad?
[16:41] <OerHeks> sudo do toiletpaper
[16:42] <Ranieri_> OerHeks: heh, but seriously
[16:42] <teward> Ranieri_: lspci should help a little
[16:42] <teward> so would manufacturer specs information
[16:42] <teward> (i.e. data from the manufacturer)
[16:42] <teward> (also please keep the profanity to a minimum here)
[16:43] <Ranieri_> teward: Sorry, yeah the output is hard to read though
[16:43] <Ranieri_> This is all my pci devices I think
[16:44] <daftykins> Ranieri_: share it via http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:44] <OerHeks> lspci -vvnn
[16:45] <Rave1> http://www.binarytides.com/inxi-system-information-linux/     inxi is a  great tool
[16:45] <Ranieri_> paste.ubuntu.com/11974347/
[16:46] <daftykins> Ranieri_: intel 6200
[16:46] <daftykins> line 18
[16:46] <daftykins> that's 802.11a/b/g/n
[16:46] <teward> ^
[16:47] <Ranieri_> Ahh I see
[16:47] <Ranieri_> Does it have monitor mode?
[16:47] <Bombo> " Each time I have used do-release-upgrade I have ended up with an unbootable system :) –  user205301 Mar 10 '14 at 7:34 " http://askubuntu.com/questions/409555/what-does-do-release-upgrade-really-do
[16:47] <Bombo> hmmm ;)
[16:49] <daftykins> Ranieri_: already said we're not helping you with this task :) please go elsewhere.
[16:49]  * Ranieri_ sighes
[16:49] <polpo> thanks daftykins, changing .config and .kde worked!
[16:50] <EriC^^> !cookie | daftykins
[16:50] <s37> hii
[16:50] <daftykins> 8D
[16:50] <daftykins> mmm cookie
[16:50] <s37> !cookie
[16:50]  * teward gives daftykins a box of cookies
[16:50] <teward> anyways...
[16:51] <daftykins> EriC^^: psst you're not in the other chan
[16:51] <EriC^^> oops
[16:52] <Bombo> OerHeks: is it safe to do-release-upgrade from 14.04.2 to 15.02?
[16:52] <Bombo> 'does it work' ;)
[16:52] <Pici> Bombo: you'd need to go through 14.10 first.
[16:52] <Bombo> Pici: how?
[16:53] <Pici> Bombo: do-release-upgrade can bring you to the next version, or if you are on an LTS, to the next LTS if available.
[16:53] <Pici> You cannot skip releases otherwise.
[16:54] <Bombo> Pici: using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS right now
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Bombo  my advice is to stick to 14.04
[16:55] <Bombo> MonkeyDust: the systemd/lxc bug could be fixed in 15.02
[16:55] <Pici> Bombo: your current release will be supported until 2019. 15.04 is only supported until mid 2016.
[16:55] <Amoz> Bombo, you have two options. Either upgrade to 14.10 and then 15.04, or reinstall 15.04 directly.
[16:56] <x23> i can't use my usb, don't have partition table and i can't create it
[16:56] <Pici> Bombo: you are free to upgrade, but you need to keep in mind that your release will only have 9 months of support (from april 2015)
[16:56] <Bombo> Pici: can't i upgrade to the next version when support ends for 15.04?
[16:57] <Pici> Bombo: sure.  Some people don't like having to upgrade every time a release comes out though.  Businesses certainly can't deal with having to schedule OS upgrades that frequently.
[16:57] <x23> somebody?
[16:58] <Bombo> will the support fix the systemd+lxc bug that is (probably) fixed in 15.04? hmm maybe 14.12 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1346734
[16:58] <Pici> Bombo: what do you mean?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> Bombo  there's no such thing as 15.02 or 14.12 ... it's 15.04 or 14.10
[16:59] <Bombo> Pici: i got this problem, lxc doesn't work, maybe because of systemd
[17:00] <Bombo> MonkeyDust: i just read it there under 'milestone' Ubuntu ubuntu-14.12
[17:02] <Bombo> this are the commands i use on 14.04.2: 'lxc-create -n jess32 -t debian -- --arch i386' then to start it 'lxc-start -n jess32' error i get is this: 'Failed to mount cgroup at /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd: Permission denied'
[17:03] <Amoz> Bombo, and as what user do you do this?
[17:03] <Bombo> Amoz: root
[17:03] <x23> somebody?
[17:04] <sebita21> hay algún canal de ubntu español?
[17:04] <Bombo> (add sudo before)
[17:05] <Amoz> x23, first of all, stop spamming
[17:05] <artois> sebita21: /msg alis list *ubunt*es
[17:05] <x23> Amoz, two messages is not spamming
[17:06] <x23> sebita21, #ubuntu-es
[17:06] <Amoz> x23, we saw your question perfectly fine the first time
[17:06] <x23> Amoz, ok
[17:06] <sebita21> nice
[17:06] <sebita21> xd
[17:07] <suraj> hi
[17:07] <Amoz> x23, first of all, is the usb device identified? can you describe more in detail what "i can't create partition table" means?
[17:09] <x23> Amoz, my usb is identified, i used gparted for create a table of partitions or partitions
[17:10] <x23> Amoz, i also used cfdisk
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> !info cfdisk
[17:11] <x23> MonkeyDust, No primary partition is marked bootable .
[17:11] <x23> DOS MBR can not boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the current partition
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> x23  DOS?
[17:12] <Amoz> x23, what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:12] <Amoz> and what makes you draw the conclusion that you can't create the partition table?
[17:12] <x23> Amoz, create a partition
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> x23  i'm not following you
[17:13] <sebita21> I only have two Governors , energy savings and performance.
[17:13] <Amoz> x23, did you try creating it and then e.g. print it with fdisk -l /dev/sdx ?
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> x23  boot off a live dvd or usb, use gparted to create partitions, done
[17:13] <x23> Amoz, I can not create partitions on the USB
[17:13] <sebita21> I have not ondemand and conservative
[17:14] <x23> Amoz, The disk /dev/sde not contain a valid partition table
[17:14] <sebita21> I happened to migrate from i386 to amd64
[17:14] <Amoz> x23, when and where is that message shown?
[17:15] <x23> Amoz, right now after fdisk -l /dev/sde
[17:16] <Amoz> x23, the only thing I can think about is: broken?
[17:16] <Bombo> x23: after creating a partition i think you have to replug it in... did you?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> x23  what's the outcome of   lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:17] <mynona> NICK mynona
[17:17] <x23> Amoz, could be broken
[17:17] <Bombo> wasn't it so that one could just dd the ubuntu.iso on a usb device? and it boots?
[17:18] <Amoz> x23, if you tried different tools and you're sure you know how to use them, then that's my best guess.
[17:18] <genii> Yes, they are hybrid images
[17:18] <Amoz> x23, did you try creating e.g. a bootable usb startdisk with the builtin tool?
[17:18] <Bombo> x23: you just want to put a ubuntu.iso on the stick?
[17:19] <x23> amoz,I used dd to make a bootable usb
[17:19] <plastic> hello; what's the easier way to manage the firewall in a just installed ubuntu? (I dont have it, trying to help a friend)
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !info gufw | plastic
[17:19] <OerHeks> plastic, install the gui: gufw , as ufw is already installed
[17:20] <plastic> thank you, guys
[17:20] <OerHeks> you will find it in systemsettings
[17:20] <Amoz> x23, and what happened?
[17:21] <Amoz> you could try verifying if the USB has exactly the same data as the image you DD:d
[17:21] <Amoz> either it has or not, and if it doesn't you'll know it's broken
[17:21] <daftykins> x23: what of?
[17:21] <x23> Amoz, I did it successfully on several occasions, but in the past it was copying the iso and I turned off the computer and restart this is the result
[17:22] <x23> Amoz, I had an electrical failure and was without electricity
[17:23] <x23> Amoz, in the middle of last process
[17:23] <Bombo> electricity is essential
[17:23] <x23> Bombo, yeah
[17:23] <Bombo> ;)
[17:23] <Amoz> x23, in the process of using dd to copy an image to the usb?
[17:23] <x23> Amoz, yes
[17:24] <daftykins> x23: what's your actual issue here? did you dd the ISO to the drive or to a partition? it has to be /dev/sdX not /dev/sdX1
[17:24] <Amoz> and now it won't boot if you write an ISO to it?
[17:24] <Amoz> x23, ^
[17:24] <bcc> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2dda6495a2aa08842f72 I guess that aint good
[17:24] <bcc> :(
[17:25] <daftykins> bcc: nope
[17:25] <x23> Amoz, It does nothing
[17:25] <bcc> bloody ST2000DM001, pieces of crap
[17:25] <daftykins> bcc: can you run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdd | pastebinit" and share the link?
[17:25] <daftykins> bcc: that kind of language is not appropriate here
[17:27] <bcc> sorry - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11974532/
[17:27] <Amoz> x23, so it sounds like the power failure killed your usb ?
[17:27] <x23> amoz,  ;(
[17:28] <x23> Amoz, even with testdisk I could recover any partition or the partition table
[17:28] <daftykins> bcc: line 80, table ID 197 - 168 current pending sectors. that disk is indeed toast, backup if you can and seek warranty options / replace.
[17:29] <bcc> daftykins, okay! its mdadm raid 5 that is still reporting as "clean"
[17:29] <daftykins> bcc: ah, that one's a member disk?
[17:29] <x23> 16GB was , I cry
[17:29] <bcc> daftykins, yeah
[17:29] <daftykins> cool
[17:29] <Amoz> x23, 10$
[17:29] <bcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11974545/
[17:30] <x23> Amoz, I lasted two days ;(
[17:30] <Amoz> x23, what brand on the USB?
[17:30] <Amoz> or model
[17:30] <daftykins> bcc: recent article pointed to HGSTs as having a low failure rate
[17:30] <daftykins> though i'm a WD fan myself ;)
[17:30] <bcc> yeah me too
[17:31] <bcc> I was thinking of getting the NAS red's
[17:31] <x23> kingston datatraveler 101
[17:31] <bcc> daftykins, so it means, 168 sectors are bad?
[17:31] <daftykins> yep
[17:31] <daftykins> bcc: that's what i run, i bought vouchers too to add a fourth year of warranty
[17:32] <x23> Amoz, tks a lot
[17:32] <bcc> for your home setup?
[17:32] <ioria> x23 what tools have to tried to format it ?
[17:32] <Amoz> x23, again, verify if it can retain data or not, that way you'll know for sure
[17:32] <x23> ioria, parted
[17:32] <x23> ioria, cfdisk
[17:32] <bcc> I am still on raid 5 with mdadm, I ass thinking of giving raid-z a try.. not sure
[17:32] <ioria> x23 try gdisk
[17:33] <x23> ioria, disk utility of gnome?
[17:33] <ioria> !info gdisk
[17:33] <bcc> Warranty Status: Unknown
[17:34] <bcc> ..helpful
[17:34] <menace> hi, my networkmanager (14.04 with updates) always tries to connect to another wlan at home, which is not mine
[17:34] <menace> only after mistry, it chooses the right one
[17:34] <menace> is this a known bug?
[17:34] <bcc> ah, n Warranty "Expiration 13-Sep-2015  "
[17:34] <bcc> quick!
[17:34] <Amoz> menace, delete it from your list of previously connected networks?
[17:35] <menace> i never did connect
[17:35] <menace> and already removed it twice
[17:35] <Amoz> menace, what's the SSID?
[17:36] <menace> Fritzbox somethingsomething
[17:36] <daftykins> ah har
[17:36] <menace> ?
[17:37] <menace> this ssid is not mine
[17:37] <Amoz> menace, let the profile stay but disable "connect automatically" ?
[17:38] <daftykins> hehe
[17:38] <daftykins> we've lost menace
[17:42] <menace1> seems to work.. thank you! :)
[17:43] <raju_> how to hack wifi password
[17:44] <raju_> how to hack wifi password
[17:44] <julian-delphiki> raju_: that isn't appropriate for this channel
[17:44] <elementary> hi
[17:44] <raju_> then how
[17:44] <menace1> ask in #security :D
[17:44] <raju_> hi
[17:45] <dearn> Hey guys, how to make Ubuntu boot in text mode (no splash screen but info about services starting etc) but then start gdm ?
[17:45] <Amoz> dearn, nosplash as boot parameter?
[17:45] <daftykins> dearn: edit your kernel boot parameters, ditch 'quiet splash' and put 'text' instead.
[17:46] <dearn> daftykins: isn't 'text' text mode so no X starting?
[17:46] <julian-delphiki> raju_: this is a channel for ubuntu support, you might want to go to a security channel
[17:46] <daftykins> hmm, you might be right there - my brain might've just had a fail :)
[17:46] <daftykins> either way, removing those two params will probably give what you want
[17:47] <daftykins> dearn: test it one-time by holding left shift at boot and removing them
[17:47] <daftykins> then you can edit grub's config to make it permanent
[17:47] <dearn> daftykins: in grub when I select kernel etc? or when do you want me to hold shift ?
[17:48] <dearn> ok let me test that
[17:48] <daftykins> at boot time
[18:02] <jayjo> Can I define cron to write its output a file?
[18:02] <artois> jayjo: course
[18:03] <artois> jayjo: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20command%20log%20to%20file
[18:03] <jayjo> I know to output the command to a file, but I thought I could output from STOUT to a file
[18:03] <jayjo> like change one setting
[18:04] <glassdolphin> hi
[18:04] <EriC^^> jayjo: not sure what you mean.
[18:04] <artois> heyo
[18:04] <glassdolphin> anybody use ubuntu studio
[18:04] <EriC^^> *...
[18:04] <artois> jayjo: >
[18:05] <artois> doesn't make much sense to implement redirection in cron
[18:05] <artois> it's already done by your shell
[18:05] <didar> jayjo, there is MAILTO= that you can use
[18:06] <didar> but it just emails the output
[18:06] <didar> ...to the user
[18:06] <daftykins> artois: though it's often tempting, giving people search engine results isn't quite the intended purpose of this channel - so just hold back if you see something that seems to not have been searched for :)
[18:07] <artois> daftykins: suck an egg
[18:07] <ikonia> artois: tone it down please
[18:07] <artois> ikonia: talk to daftykins
[18:07] <ikonia> the purpose of the channel is to help - not tell people to google
[18:07] <artois> didn't tell anyone to google
[18:07] <daftykins> artois: i worded it politely, now follow the rules please.
[18:07] <ikonia> artois: you posted a google search,
[18:07] <artois> daftykins: I worded it politely, too; it's an old saying
[18:08] <artois> ikonia: yup, I was there I remember
[18:08] <daftykins> that is not the expected behaviour for an adult in here.
[18:08] <artois> what isn't?...
[18:08] <ikonia> artois: don't be smart, I'm just asking you to "please" try to actually help rather than post google searches,
[18:08] <ikonia> I sugges the topic is dropped now
[18:08] <didar> jayjo, seems like if cron produces any output then default behaviour is to email it to the user *or* to the user mentioned by MAILTO (like MAILTO=root@localhost)
[18:08] <artois> adults can't find other adults to be wasting their breath?
[18:08]  * artois shrugs
[18:08] <artois> ikonia: I don't see anyone else "helping" him
[18:08] <dearn> Whats the name of ncurse program that starts in recovery mode? (menu with grub and check filesystem etc) ?
[18:09] <artois> moreover, I also "helped" him without a URI
[18:09] <artois> so what you're on about is frankly confounding, but whatever
[18:09] <ikonia> artois: drop it - help or be quiet
[18:09] <artois> happily
[18:09] <artois> I'll keep helping =)
[18:09] <artois> dearn: dialog?
[18:10] <dearn> artois: yeah yeah but exactly that program
[18:10] <artois> dearn: you can probably change vt and find it from the processes running
[18:11] <daftykins> there aren't any until a choice is made probably
[18:11] <artois> any what?
[18:12] <daftykins> functional TTYs
[18:13] <artois> so pointless conjectural second guessing is cool but linking to instructions _and_ also explaining in addition to that isn't? =P
[18:13]  * artois rolls eyes
[18:13] <daftykins> being a drama queen isn't helping anyone.
[18:13] <artois> no kidding
[18:13] <daftykins> all of your responses are guesses.
[18:15] <bratchley> OK I'm trying to use Ubuntu for the first time and I accidentally installed 14.04.2 LTS, is there an easy way to get to 15.04?
[18:15] <ioria> /lib/recovery-mode ?
[18:15] <tgm4883> bratchley: 14.04 is a good choice
[18:15] <daftykins> bratchley: nothing wrong with running long term support (LTS)
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> bratchley  14.04 is good
[18:15] <tgm4883> so good job :)
[18:15] <bratchley> wasn't 14.10 EOL'd ?
[18:15] <dearn> ioria: thanks man! thats it
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> bratchley  well done
[18:15] <ioria> ok
[18:15] <artois> bratchley: the shortest duration solution to that would probably be just an ordinary install, if you've nothing on the system yet
[18:16] <tgm4883> bratchley: yes, but 14.04 is LTS (Long Term Support) for 5 years
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> bratchley  14.04 is longer supported than 14.10, it's called LTS, mong term support ... every even year, in april
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> long*
[18:17] <bratchley> what happens in April?
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> bratchley  new LTS
[18:18] <daftykins>  14.10 is already dead :)
[18:18] <tgm4883> bratchley: so you can stick with 14.04 and be supported until 2019, or you can install 15.04 and be supported until Jan 2016, then upgrade to 15.10 and be supported until July 2016, then upgrade to 16.04 (which happens to be another LTS)
[18:18] <ikonia> is anyone doing the Sat 6.1 beta ?
[18:18] <ikonia> oops
[18:18] <ikonia> wrong channel
[18:18] <bratchley> is there something I can read that explains the Ubuntu release cycle?
[18:19] <bratchley> ikonia: fwiw I have a sat 6 running
[18:19] <artois> bratchley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[18:19] <tgm4883> bratchley: there's a really good graphic of it that I can't find right now
[18:20] <tgm4883> bratchley: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS  I like this graphic
[18:20] <bratchley> ah OK so x.04 will always be the LTS version
[18:20] <bratchley> tgm4883: ty
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> bratchley  no, only in the even years
[18:20] <tgm4883> bratchley: yw
[18:20] <BotchlaB> tgm4883: Isn't 14.04 till 2017?
[18:21] <artois> 2019 I think
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> bratchley  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[18:21] <artois> as it says on the link I gave, anyway =)
[18:21] <tgm4883> BotchlaB: 5 years of support. 2014 plus 5 years is 2019
[18:21] <artois> and also tgm4883's
[18:21] <BotchlaB> tgm4883: Oh, I see.
[18:22] <tgm4883> artois: yea I saw your link first (and MonkeyDust) but I think the graphic on the LTS page explains it better than a table
[18:22] <tgm4883> BotchlaB: 12.04 however is supported until 2017
[18:22] <BotchlaB> tgm4883: Maybe that was my confusion. :P
[18:22] <artois> tgm4883: sorry meant to direct those at him not you
[18:22] <artois> your graphic is nice
[18:22] <bratchley> Does Ubuntu support FreeIPA? At least at the level of a client?
[18:23] <tgm4883> artois: Well not my graphic, but I like it so much I did decide to rip it off and use it for Mythbuntu http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos
[18:23] <artois> yes, of course...
[18:23] <artois> unquestionable specificity of language can be so tiresome...
[18:23] <tgm4883> it's just so concise in how it explains diffferent levels of supported
[18:23] <artois> bratchley: it's in universe
[18:24] <bratchley> is "universe" the name of the main Ubuntu repos?
[18:24] <tgm4883> bratchley: it's one of them. However it depends on what you mean by support
[18:25] <artois> if it's in universe, it's supported
[18:25] <bratchley> as in I can configure SSSD+IPA specific stuff like HBAC
[18:25] <tgm4883> bratchley: we can get into the technical details of that if you want, but suffice to say that it's in the repos so you should be able to install it and use it
[18:25] <bratchley> ok
[18:26] <Bashing-om> bratchley: An explanation of ubuntu's repository : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu .
[18:26] <tgm4883> artois: no, it depends on what he means by support. For instance, if he has a support contract with Canonical, he cannot call up and get help with stuff in Universe
[18:26] <tgm4883> artois: however here, we will support it :)
[18:26] <artois> if he had that kind of support contract, wouldn't he have called them to ask that question, though? =)
[18:26] <jayjo> on my production box I have 8 cron jobs going. It looks like when I do >> or 2>&1 it looks like it doesn't append. Is there a flag to pass in to append?
[18:27] <artois> jayjo: >> will append, or | tee -a
[18:27] <tgm4883> artois: god I hope not. When I worked support I hated it when people would call me up for easy questions like that
[18:27] <jayjo> artois: thank you
[18:27] <artois> tgm4883: ahah, but were there questions you actually like? heheh
[18:27] <artois> jayjo: sometimes it can help to have cron call a script, rather than trying to cram the entire script into the crontab
[18:28] <tgm4883> artois: also, this was likely quicker, and also I'm not sure if people under contract have a limited amount of support interactions with canonical
[18:28] <artois> s/sometimes/most of the time/ :p
[18:28] <artois> tgm4883: that'd be annoying, heh
[18:28] <tgm4883> artois: yes, anything that was challenging, but that is a conversation for a different channel
[18:28] <jayjo> right now I have 8 calls to .sh files, which call many more python scripts but the individual shell scripts are modular
[18:28] <tgm4883> artois: thats..... kinda the industry standard for lower level tiers of support contracts
[18:29] <artois> I wouldn't know, never paid for support
[18:30] <tgm4883> artois: you aren't a big enough business to need it
[18:30] <artois> I think I'd rather pay for in-house even if I were, but we do indeed digress, heh
[18:30] <tgm4883> artois: in house?
[18:32] <Kion> My system-config-printers is incredibly slow, but apparantly my cupsd is working fine, this started with my upgrade to 15.04 any ideas?
[18:39] <artois> tgm4883: within my own company
[18:41] <abigail_> test
[18:42] <Olympus> Nickserv olympus icomic2a
[18:42] <mir3k> witam
[18:42] <tgm4883> artois: well yes, you should have some on site engineers, however you still might want someone that you can escalate issues to. It's also sometimes a very good idea to keep a support contract up (for hardware type things or specialized HA type software needs)
[18:43] <mir3k> mam problem w ubuntu
[18:43] <mir3k> a mianowicie strasznie wolno internet dziala
[18:43] <artois> tgm4883: I prefer to use things I have more control over in the first place, heh
[18:43] <bekks> !pl | mir3k
[18:44] <tgm4883> artois: even then, you going to run a million dollar business on mysql and not have a support contract in place?
[18:45] <artois> I'd rather have employees for support
[18:46] <tgm4883> artois: somehow you think those two things are mutually exclusive?
[18:46] <artois> no, I'd just rather have the one
[18:46] <abigail_> test
[18:46] <artois> abigail_: you pass
[18:46] <tgm4883> artois: out of curiosity, what do you do?
[18:46] <artois> tgm4883: boring web stuff
[18:47] <tgm4883> artois: design or hosting?
[18:47] <artois> we do a little boring bit of both
[18:47] <tgm4883> heh
[18:48] <bekks> artois: And you have restorable backups, too - or do you just have employees? ;)
[18:49] <artois> I have for the stuff I deal with; the actual server guys are in the tall grass
[18:50] <tgm4883> artois: any mission critical 24/7 uptime stuff?
[18:51] <artois> tgm4883: mmm, the server guys would say so, but since they use Windows I'd have to disagree
[18:54] <Sbur> daftykins: I'm back with my wifi dongle problems
[18:54] <Sbur> daftykins: With my realtek dongle that is not recognized
[18:55] <elementary> hi , i get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short" executing chroot on live cd. what can i do'
[18:56] <Sbur> May I ask what to do to get my realtek dongle to be recognized?
[18:56] <artois> elementary: is it a 64-bit live OS?
[18:56] <elementary> 64bit
[18:56] <bekks> elementary: Are you using ElementaryOS?
[18:56] <zacts> um... I'm getting a bad gpg sig for http://releases.ubuntu.com/vivid/
[18:56] <elementary> elementaryos live cd
[18:56] <zacts> the SHA256SUM.gpg
[18:57] <ioria> Sbur what did you try ?
[18:57] <zacts> I used the hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com to import the key
[18:57] <daftykins> elementary: that is not supported in here, sorry.
[18:57] <zacts> I just wanted to verify if others are having this issue too
[18:57] <daftykins> !elementary
[18:57] <daftykins> elementary: join their channel above
[18:58] <elementary> thanks
[18:58] <daftykins> Sbur: which ubuntu are you on again?
[18:58] <Sbur> ioria: I am a newbie with regards to looking too far.  I got help from daftykins who knows from my lsusb what chipset I have, but I can't get it to work
[18:58] <Sbur> daftykins: 15.04
[18:59] <ioria> Sbur ok... but did try to compile and load some module ?
[18:59] <Sbur> ioria: Tell me how to do that and I will try
[19:00] <Sbur> ioria: daftykins: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0bda:8812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[19:00] <daftykins> that's the one, i had forgotten the model
[19:00] <daftykins> ioria: i've no experience with the realtek models, if you'd like to take over?
[19:01] <ioria> daftykins, i can try ... :P
[19:01] <Sbur> daftykins: Can't see any new drivers.  When I enter  "network-admin", I don't see the tab "connections"
[19:02] <ioria> Sbur so ... you can try this  : git clone https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au.git    or this : git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git
[19:03] <ioria> Sbur in any case save somewhere the links ... could be useful
[19:03] <Sbur> ioria: Let me understand, I need to type that in a terminal?
[19:03] <zacts> BAD gpg signatures for http://releases.ubuntu.com/vivid/
[19:03] <zacts> just fyi
[19:03] <zacts> it's for all of them I think
[19:04] <ioria> Sbur .... first     ... sudo lshw -c network
[19:05] <ioria> Sbur no, we need to compile new one
[19:05] <DDR> Hi all, I enabled some sort of accessibility setting for "large fonts" a while back, but now I don't need it any more. Does anyone have any idea what I might have enabled? All I remember is that it was an accessibility setting, and it was somewhere rather off the beaten path. :|
[19:05] <ioria> Sbur you must have installed git and build-essential
[19:06] <EriC^^> DDR: go to settings > universal access
[19:06] <Sbur> ioioria: ok for lshw
[19:07] <DDR> thanks, EriC^^!
[19:07] <EriC^^> DDR: no problem!
[19:07] <Sbur> ioria: Now what?
[19:09] <ioria> Sbur can you paste the output ?
[19:09] <TJ-> ioria: it might be worth stepping back a bit, and wrapping that driver with DKMS, so kernel upgrades are handled automatically
[19:10] <Sbur> ioria: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975148/
[19:10] <ioria>  TJ- can assist a bit ? :-)
[19:10] <TJ-> ioria: I'll put a DKMS package together here and test-build it whilst you help the user
[19:11] <ioria>  TJ- ok
[19:11] <TJ-> ioria: which repo is the preferred, do you know?
[19:11] <Sbur> ioria: I just installed "git" and had "build-essential"
[19:11] <ioria>  TJ-  they are reported working both until 9 Jun
[19:12] <ioria> Sbur ok
[19:12] <ioria>  TJ-  this : https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git
[19:12] <TJ-> ioria: "abperiasamy" has DKMS instructions in its README.md
[19:13] <TJ-> ioria: so, those directions plus the git clone... 5 instructions required
[19:13] <ioria>  TJ-  ok
[19:14] <ioria> Sbur you have this module loaded : driver=ath9k_htc
[19:15] <ioria> Sbur make a dir in your home and git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git
[19:16] <TJ-> ioria: almost done; I'll pastebin the commands once it's completed and tested
[19:16] <danportin> Does anyone know what service 'cypress' is?
[19:16] <ioria>  TJ-  ok
[19:17] <Sbur> ioria: I have a question ... That ath9k looks like the wifi dongle that sometimes doesn't work well and that I'm replacing by this realtek thing. Can I have both?
[19:17] <ioria> Sbur another one ?
[19:17] <Sbur> ioria: And I need to type git clone before the rest?
[19:18] <ioria> Sbur git clone need to download the package in your new folder... that's all
[19:18] <ioria> *s
[19:18] <TJ-> Sbur: wait one - I'm posting exact instructions for you now
[19:18] <Sbur> ioria: The one that works (with the ath9k) is how I am talking with you.  But sometimes, it stops working
[19:19] <Sbur> ioria: That's why I decided to get the realtek
[19:19] <ioria> Sbur what's wrong with eth ? :)
[19:20] <Sbur> ioria: Is eth wired or wireless?
[19:20] <ioria> Sbur wired
[19:20] <TJ-> Sbur: ioria  See http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975208/
[19:21] <ioria> Sbur here we are . follow this and ask if you have probs http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975208/
[19:21] <ioria> Sbur but i'd like to get rid of that ath9 ....
[19:21] <Sbur> TJ-: But that would make it impossible for me to use the old one if the new one doesn't give satisfaction
[19:22] <ioria> Sbur no, different modules
[19:22] <TJ-> Sbur: not at all. If 8812au doesn't work unload it and reload ath9k
[19:22] <TJ-> Sbur: sorry... I thought you meant the ath9k was being used to drive this device but was faulty... in that case, ignore the unload instruction
[19:22] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: When I do that, the ath9k will no longer work? And I'll need to put the realtek in, right?
[19:23] <TJ-> Sbur: ioria revised the instructions, sorry about that:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975227/
[19:23] <ioria> Sbur   stop ....
[19:24] <Sbur> TJ-: What I would like ... and I'll follow the instructions ... revised...  minus any removal of ath9k in case ...
[19:24] <ioria>  TJ-  no need to remove ath9 ?
[19:25] <ioria> Sbur   for now, clone the git in your dir ...
[19:28] <Sbur> ioria: I give it my username and ... and it says "authentification error"
[19:28] <ioria> Sbur   your username  ?
[19:29] <ioria> Sbur   for what ?
[19:29] <Sbur> ioria: It asks me for a username for https://github.com
[19:30] <Sbur> ioria: I tried to not put something there, and to put my stuff there. (username and password)
[19:30] <Sbur> strange
[19:30] <ioria> Sbur   for this : git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux rtl8812au   ?
[19:31] <Sbur> ioria: yes, for that
[19:31] <ioria> Sbur   ??? what's the name of you new dir ?
[19:31] <ioria> *r
[19:32] <Sbur> ioria: that may be the problem, but I'm so newbie at this
[19:32] <ioria> Sbur   did you mkdir a new folder ?
[19:33] <TJ-> Sbur: 'git clone' with https shouldn't be asking for a username
[19:33] <TJ-> ioria: are you able to use those instructions without errors?
[19:33] <ioria>  TJ-  the clone ? sure
[19:34] <TJ-> ioria: no, all the instructions ... to confirm it works not just on my system :)
[19:35] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975303/
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> I think my wireless card is having issues. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11975289/ My webcam is also getting weird, http://i.imgur.com/LXkbgK3.jpg which is confusing motion
[19:35] <ioria>  TJ-  yes
[19:36] <ioria> Sbur incomplete command
[19:36] <Sbur> ioria: What am I missing?
[19:37] <TJ-> Sbur: copy the pastebin lines directly
[19:37] <ioria> Sbur  you run this : git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_linux rtl8812au
[19:37] <ioria> Sbur  but is git clone https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux rtl8812au
[19:37] <ioria> Sbur  no...
[19:38] <TJ-> Sbur: even better, download this shell script that'll do it all for you: "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/install_8812.sh"
[19:39] <ioria> Sbur  weird
[19:39] <TJ-> Sbur: then run the script: "bash install_8812.sh"
[19:39] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: I'm to the first dkms line.
[19:40] <TJ-> Sbur: Ahhh, OK, you've got it cloned then. That script will perform all the steps for you if you want it
[19:40] <Sbur> ioria: TJ-: But it says 'command not found"
[19:40] <ioria> Sbur  sudo apt-get install dkms
[19:40] <TJ-> Sbur: "sudo apt-get install dkms"
[19:43] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: That command (install dkms) is hanging.  Again, this old dongle
[19:43] <ioria> Sbur  i see
[19:44] <TJ-> Sbur: Press Ctrl+C to interrupt/terminate the command, and try it again
[19:46] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: I think I'm going to reboot ...
[19:46] <Sbur> brb
[19:46] <ioria> Sbur  if your dongle is not good , you should always keep a cable at hand
[19:46] <Sbur> ioria: TJ-: ok, but the install of dkms finally finished
[19:47] <ioria> Sbur  ok... i'm speaking in general ...
[19:48] <Sbur> ioria: TJ-: Something is being made.  Maybe some progress
[19:48] <ioria> Sbur  where you are ?
[19:48] <Sbur> ioria: TJ-: the second dkms is working
[19:49] <ioria> Sbur  and the first ? :þ
[19:49] <Sbur> ioria: TJ-: ok, now the modprobe
[19:49] <TJ-> Sbur sounds good... if this step doesn't report errors the worst is over
[19:50] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: I did the modprobe, but it didn't seem to do anything
[19:50] <ioria> Sbur  maybe is better to unload the ath9, and plug the new dongle
[19:50] <TJ-> Sbur: that's the Linux way. it only gets noisy if something goes wrong
[19:50] <Sbur> My realtek should now work after all that?
[19:50] <TJ-> Sbur: "lsmod | grep 8812"
[19:51] <TJ-> Sbur:  "lsmod" command list all active kernel modules.. if you see it its ready
[19:51] <sssilver> Hey guys, I did a fresh installation of Ubuntu 15.04 and my mouse/keyboard attached to the dockstation do not work. Googling doesn't seem to reveal much.
[19:51] <sssilver> What am I missing?
[19:52] <sssilver> laptop is Lenovo T440p
[19:52] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: Look at this ... knowing that the 8812 s are in red http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975405/
[19:52] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: Am I good now?
[19:52] <TJ-> Sbur: have you plugged the device in yet?
[19:52] <TJ-> Sbur: do this: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and the then plug it in
[19:52] <Sbur> TJ-: Not yet, I was afraid that I would lose you
[19:53] <TJ-> Sbur: you'll see kernel messages if/as the device is detected
[19:53] <TJ-> Sbur: No, you won't lose us. inserting it shouldn't disconnect the existing connection
[19:53] <ioria> Sbur  you can't help it ... if you wanna test it
[19:53] <sssilver> laptop/mouse don't work even when connected directly to the laptop
[19:53] <sssilver> *keyboard/mouse
[19:54] <Sbur> ioria: TJ-: Before change of dongles.  I'm changing now ...
[19:55] <Sbur> TJ-: ioria: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11975424/
[19:55] <TJ-> Sbur: you can have them both installed at the same time, if the ports are available
[19:55] <ioria> Sbur  yes, go on
[19:56] <ioria> registered new interface driver rtl8812au sound good
[19:56] <ioria> *s
[19:56] <TJ-> Sbur: OK... now "iwconfig" will report the WLAN devices
[19:58] <proq`> I have been unable to boot ubuntu from USB stick.  I installed wubi but it says there are too many partitions and cannot proceed, but I can now see the USB stick.  how do I start the ubuntu installer from the usb stick?
[19:59] <xangua> !wubi | proq`
[20:00] <wileee> proq`, Sounds like you tried to partition wubi, it was when supported just a file in windows.
[20:00] <proq`> xangua: I am booted into ubuntu via wubi.  I cannot boot from the USB stick with ubuntu.  my only hope to installing ubuntu right now is to launch the installer
[20:01] <proq`> xangua: which I can *see* on the mounted usb stick now
[20:01] <daftykins> sorry, we don't advise touching WUBI ever
[20:01] <proq`> wubi may suck and by unsupported, but I'm now booted into ubuntu
[20:01] <brothersome> proq`, You need to install the grub2 bootloader on a USB stick - pretty hard
[20:01] <OerHeks> why can you boot from usb?
[20:02] <BluesKaj> wubi isn't real linux anyway, a very poor facsimile
[20:02] <proq`> OerHeks: I don't know, this netbook doesn't want to boot from it
[20:02] <J4> come on now wubi is the bees knees
[20:03] <wileee> proq`, You're in the right place for help, I would avoid making statements that works against this. ;)
[20:03] <OerHeks> UEFI ?
[20:03] <xangua> doesn't want or can't proq` ? how old is this "netbook" ¿
[20:04] <proq`> it's an acer aspire one D270
[20:04] <OerHeks> that was my 2nd thought, how old netbook/cpu/pae-story
[20:04] <wileee> proq`, I have a d250, it will work, that is msdos
[20:04] <wileee> pae friendly
[20:04] <proq`> I have a D255 and it boots from the USB stick but this D270 won't
[20:05] <TJ-> proq`: Does the D270's boot manager menu list the USB device ?
[20:05] <proq`> yes, it lists the USB Flash device
[20:05] <proq`> and it's at the top of boot priority
[20:06] <wileee> proq`I believe f11 is the per session boot
[20:06] <proq`> on this machine it's F12 but that doesn't make it boot
[20:06] <TJ-> proq`: and what happens ... does the BIOS report "No operating system", does it return control to you, or do you get a flashing cursor top-left
[20:07] <proq`> it just pauses for a few seconds then boots windows 7
[20:07] <OerHeks> Intel Atom N2600 "Cedar Trail" - GMA 3600
[20:07] <brothersome> proq` So it has no bootflag or bootloader
[20:08] <TJ-> proq`: OK ... some BIOS are really picky over how the partition table is configured. Is the ISO image on the USB, the Desktop Live image?
[20:09] <TJ-> proq`: have you tested the USB by booting another PC, if one is available, so we can rule out a bad image on it?
[20:09] <proq`> TJ-: it's the ubuntu 15.04 desktop ARM64 image written to USB disk.  I've done this about 20 times and it works on many machines, but not this one
[20:09] <TJ-> proq`: Do you mean AMD64 ? :D
[20:09] <proq`> TJ-: yes, I used it two days ago on a lenovo S21e and it worked
[20:09] <proq`> yes, amd64... blah
[20:09] <wileee> that is a 32 not 64 I would think
[20:09] <TJ-> proq`: OK ... so you're currently booted into Ubuntu and have the USB connected
[20:10] <proq`> yes
[20:10] <TJ-> proq`: do you know which device the USB is, as in /dev/sdb ?
[20:10] <proq`> /dev/sdb, yes
[20:10] <brothersome> proq` : Perhaps it is the bootloader, I installed the SysLinux bootloader and that worked for my machine (Only USB no harddisk)
[20:10] <TJ-> proq`: Can you do "pastebinit <( sudo dd if=/dev/sdb count=1 bs=512 | hexdump -C)" ?
[20:11] <wileee> proq`, This your computer, acer-aspire-one-d270-1375-10-1-atom-n2600-windows-7-starter-32-bit-1-gb-ram-320-gb-hdd
[20:11] <proq`> it is a 64-bit processor
[20:11] <TJ-> proq`: There are several 'modes' a BIOS can boot from USB ... mass storage block device (aka hard disk), Floppy disk emulation, and CD-ROM emulation. I've seen some BIOS cause issues like this due to reading the USB incorrectly
[20:12] <wileee> proq`, Hope your sure, I do have a toshiba listed as 32 but a 64 so possible.
[20:12] <proq`> wileee: http://cpuboss.com/cpu/Intel-Atom-N2600 -> Details -> Architecture: x86-64
[20:13] <proq`> TJ-: I moved all three of those above the hard disk in the boot options in the BIOS
[20:13] <Nectar> What would be the place to get conky support?
[20:13] <TJ-> proq`: Let's see the output of that command so we can be sure the MBR is correct
[20:14] <brothersome> proq`, What about a USB with a syslinux boot - that was my solution
[20:15] <proq`> TJ-: the dd output looks odious - 00000200
[20:15] <daftykins> dubious? :>
[20:16] <OerHeks> i am more worried about that GMA 3600 buildin on that cedar trail netbook
[20:16] <wileee> Nectar, It is in the ubuntu repos, give the issue here if you like to the channel.
[20:16] <TJ-> proq`: can you pastebinit as per the command so we can see it
[20:16] <proq`> daftykins: odious -> detestable  ;)
[20:19] <proq`> TJ-: I can't as it's booted into an ubuntu console and I don't know how to POST that to any pastebin
[20:19] <TJ-> proq`: use the command as I gave it, it posts it automatically and tells you the URL
[20:20] <TJ-> proq`:  do "pastebinit <( sudo dd if=/dev/sdb count=1 bs=512 | hexdump -C)" ?
[20:20] <proq`> which pastebinit -> no response
[20:20] <eatingthenight> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:22] <TJ-> eatingthenight: thanks :)
[20:22] <proq`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11975623/
[20:22] <eatingthenight> ha no problem
[20:24] <Nectar_> Ok. Im trying to install a theme pack for conky (conky-harmattan), so, I installed conky and now im getting this... http://pastebin.com/BUiD8q0Z
[20:24] <TJ-> proq`: well that explains everything, there's no boot-strap code there
[20:26] <proq`> oh joy
[20:27] <bprompt> Nectar_:     I don't use conky, but from the looks of the paste, I'd say, the theme was written for an older version of conky, not the newer one you're running, thus incompatible
[20:27] <TJ-> proq`:  this is what you should see http://paste.ubuntu.com/11975649/
[20:27] <TJ-> proq`: I took that from the 15.04 Desktop AMD64 ISO image
[20:27] <Nectar_> bprompt: how do i clean up the mess?
[20:28] <bprompt> Nectar_:    get rid of the theme :), or try to install the conky version is meant for
[20:28] <TJ-> proq`: guess you just need to re-write the ISO image to the USB, after ensuring the local ISO hash matches the published hash
[20:29] <proq`> TJ-: ok, thanks.  I'll try setting up the USB stick again
[20:29] <OerHeks> Nectar_, try to fix it yourself, 2000+ conky pages & examples, longest tread on the forum i guess http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2313
[20:30] <Nectar_> ill check that out OerHeks, thanks
[20:31] <OerHeks> else there is a conky manager http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/conky-manager-gets-revamped-ui-new.html
[20:32] <mangaka> reccomend me some anime please?
[20:32] <compdoc> wrong channel for that
[20:33] <mangaka> is there a channel for reccomendations?
[20:33] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[20:34] <icode2live> test
[20:34] <compdoc> try the command:   /list anime
[20:40] <artois> /msg alis list *anime*
[20:42] <bomberman> help
[20:42] <bomberman> how switch utf-8 on another charset?
[20:43] <bprompt> bomberman:    on what context?
[20:50] <Nikesh> The network icon from the top 'tray' (?) disappeared and I have no idea why. Can anyone help get it back?
[20:52] <Gerowen> Has anybody else had problems with the latest Chrome updates causing Ubuntu to freeze?  Twice in the past day my whole desktop has locked up shortly after tabs in Chrome stopped responding.  Not even CTRL+ALT+F1 works so I can't kill the process from a terminal.
[20:53] <mariano_> I'm trying to format a hard drive to use as part of a kvm pool storage. Once I do fdisk -l command, I get Device Boot /dev/sda1, start 2048, end 976773167, blocks 488385560, id 83, and system linux. Does this mean that I successfully formated my entire drive  to have one  partition taking up the entire disk and with extension ext3?
[20:54] <bprompt> Gerowen:     nope, chrome 43 works fine for me
[20:54] <Gerowen> I'm on Chrome 44.0.2403.125 (64-bit)
[20:54] <Gerowen> It might not be Chrome, but it seems that Chrome was the first thing to go both times it happened.
[20:54] <Gerowen> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, 64 bit
[20:55] <kualala> 50/2
[20:55] <treybul> hi - im wondering if there is an ap that displays different apps within one window?
[20:56] <treybul> ap/app*
[20:56] <treybul> for linux
[20:58] <Nikesh> treybul: Can you explain more what you mean?
[20:58] <bprompt> treybul:     dunno, but  you can just use a workspace for that
[20:58] <artois> I like both of those responses
[20:59] <treybul> well - I want to place different windows in a single window
[20:59] <artois> treybul: that doesn't clarify much, IMO =)
[20:59] <treybul> the purpose of this is to use google hangouts to display contents of one window rather than my whole monitor.
[20:59] <artois> you want to stream part of your screen?
[21:00] <Gerowen> treybul: Just take the naked girl off your wallpaper and you won't have to worry about hiding the rest of your monitor from the hangout, :P
[21:00] <treybul> for example, if i have chrome open, and i have terminal open >> i want both windows to be within a single window (that has max,min etc)
[21:01] <kualala> ok
[21:01] <treybul> i can then select that window when using hangouts. it will also display better because you dont have the extra fluff around the monitor
[21:02] <bprompt> treybul:    so..... use  a workspace then :)
[21:02] <Gerowen> treybul: On a serious note, you can use things like Xephyr to create a separate display session within a window.  Found this with Google: http://jeffskinnerbox.me/posts/2014/Apr/29/howto-using-xephyr-to-create-a-new-display-in-a-window/
[21:02] <bprompt> that's more or less what workspaces are for
[21:02] <treybul> with hangouts screenshare you have option to either select whole monitor, which isn't that great if the guy you're sharing with has crappy resolution
[21:04] <treybul> its big issue for me. I don't want to have to resort to running linux from within a virtual machhine to achieve this
[21:04] <kualala> ping
[21:04] <treybul> thanks Gerowen
[21:05] <Gerowen> treybul: No problem.  I've done this before to test things out, log into another user account without leaving mine, etc.  It basically puts an entire desktop session, and therefore all of its running applications, inside its own window.  You can of course log into your own username in this nested session and have access to all of your personal documents, applications, etc.
[21:05] <Gerowen> treybul: Haven't done it in a while, but I have done it, and it does work.
[21:08] <treybul> i'm reading about xephyr. does seem complicated must say. is the desktop session similar to a virtual machine? is there any speed issues?
[21:08] <treybul> Gerowen,  ^^
[21:09] <Guest18968> what is the next step down form lubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu for old prosseser    I need something that can run good youtube trying to not get lag
[21:10] <no-se> why one would prefer ubuntu over debian, please be nice; i am just trying to learn from people that know more than me. :)
[21:10] <wileee> !topic | no-se
[21:10] <bprompt> Guest18968:    define "old processor", what's the cpu speed?  single-core, dual? 32bit, 64bit?
[21:11] <Gerowen> treybul: It's not a virtual machine, it is running on and has access to your hardware, but things may run a little bit slower just because you're running two separate desktop sessions.
[21:11] <mariano_> no-se: I'm new to linux but for me it was ease of installation and community support.
[21:11] <Guest18968> celeron d
[21:11] <Gerowen> treybul: But it's not gonna be anything like the performance decrease you'd notice with running a virtual machine.
[21:11] <wileee> Guest18968, openbox?
[21:12] <Gerowen> There used to be packages in synaptic that you could install that would automagically create shortcuts to an Xnest session so all you had to do was click an icon and boom, nested desktop session.
[21:12] <no-se> mariano_: thx tht seems like a good valid reason. what about security?
[21:12] <treybul> Gerowen - I'm reading that guide and it seems a bit complicated. I wish there was an easier way to do this
[21:12] <wileee> no-se, mariano_ this is not a channel topic
[21:12] <bprompt> no-se:    mostly due to ease of installation and apps launching, one could say that for many folks ubuntu is "low entry barrier" as they see it
[21:13] <sonicx> hmmm thats a  new one for me
[21:13] <bprompt> sonicx:     celeron d,  ok what's the cpu speed again?   single, dual?
[21:13] <no-se> bprompt: i see, more drivers avaliability?
[21:14] <Gerowen> treybul: I'm installing xoo to see if that's the one I'm thinking of that added a menu icon.
[21:14] <bprompt> no-se:     well.... availability per repositories, not that debian doesn't have them, so ease for those through the UI
[21:14] <no-se> bprompt: i see.
[21:14] <no-se> thanks.
[21:14] <bprompt> np
[21:15] <treybul> Gerowen, I'm checking the ubuntu software mnager
[21:15] <sonicx> cpu speed 2.93GHZ
[21:15] <Gerowen> treybul: xoo is apparently for mimicing devices, like cell phones.
[21:15] <treybul> hmm
[21:15] <sonicx> 32bit I tk
[21:16] <bprompt> sonicx:    2.93ghz  single core I assume?
[21:16] <sonicx> ya
[21:17] <bprompt> sonicx:     I'd give a whirl to Lubuntu 14.04 then, since I'd think that's running around 3gbs of ddr1 and probably a 128mbs ram videocard, either 14.04 or 12.04
[21:18] <sonicx> ok I will try lubuntu  and tell you how fast it runs
[21:19] <daftykins> with 3GB RAM i'd go higher than lubuntu :S
[21:20] <treybul> LightDM
[21:20] <sonicx> I got 2gb of ram
[21:20] <bprompt> 3gbs ddr1 ram, with a slow font-side bus likely
[21:21] <kondratov> j #wotromania
[21:21] <daftykins> bprompt: irrelevant
[21:21] <bprompt> sonicx:    hmm at 2gb I'd consider 12.04, but maybe 14.04 may do
[21:21] <sonicx> ok
[21:36] <j3r0> Hello guys. I have an ubuntu server. What I need to know is , what I have to study so I can multiple links for my webpage. for example foobar dot com / blog
[21:37] <artois> j3r0: hrmm?
[21:39] <adrian_1908> hello. I have installed Apache2 for local (offline) development and would like it to not start automatically. How would I do this? (I saw online tutorials, but they might be outdated regarding systemd and such)
[21:39] <daftykins> j3r0: 'multiple links' ? as in several domains? like website.com, website.net ?
[21:41] <j3r0> yes
[21:42] <start> Any HTML5 browser for ubuntu?
[21:42] <j3r0> I don't want to spam but an other question I have is I want to give access to the server to some people. What I have to watch out and secure it as much as I can ? I just read the ubuntu server manual ? or there are better resources ?
[21:43] <start> j3r0
[21:43] <start> you can trust no-one
[21:43] <start> make diffrent accounts
[21:45] <j3r0> start that's the best advice ever(for trust no-one). So is that simple ? I just create users and give them ssh privileges ?
[21:46] <Gerowen> j3r0: You create users, and add them to the SSH config (/etc/ssh/sshd_config I think it is).  You can either add users explicitly there, or you can create a group, add them to the group, then specify the group in the SSH config.
[21:47] <Gerowen> j3r0: More info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[21:48] <j3r0> thank you
[21:48] <Gerowen> j3r0: Just know that this does not necessarily affect their ability to access other services such as regular FTP, HTTP web services, etc., you have to lock each of those down with their own configuration stuff.
[21:48] <Gerowen> j3r0: Np, :-)
[21:48] <j3r0> I see
[21:49] <j3r0> if I want to do this for many users it's better to write a script ? is that even possible ?
[21:50] <Gerowen> j3r0: If you have several users you want to have the same access privileges, it's easier to create a group, add those users to that group, then specify the group in the SSH config file, and then you can add/remove people from the group as necessary without messing with the SSH config every single time.  It will also keep the end of the SSH config from being a mile long list of usernames.
[21:51] <Gerowen> j3r0: You can also use that group in other places too if you want, such as granting all of those same users access to other services like HTTP, print services, etc.
[21:51] <Gerowen> j3r0: At least in my opinion.  You can certainly add each individual user to the ssh config and that'll work just fine.
[21:53] <j3r0> it will be guys all over the internet that I don't know. Plus that I am total noob with servers & linux
[21:53] <j3r0> also in this server I want to have my personal site
[21:54] <bekks> j3r0: Then you should not do it.
[21:54] <Gerowen> j3r0: Like let's say you're a teacher, and you're setting up a fake server, and you want all the kids in your class to be able to access SSH and FTP.  You can create a group say called, "Linux Class", and add that group to the FTP and SSH permissions separately.  Then let's say a person drops out of your class.  All you have to do is remove that person's user account from the group and they automatically lose access to all services the group was added t
[21:54] <Gerowen> o, so you don't have to manually edit the config files for every single service you have running to remove that user, hoping you don't forget one.
[21:54] <muculus> I have 3 virtual network interfaces, eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, how can I force debian to use them round-robin for default route?
[21:55] <bekks> muculus: Those are IP aliases, not interfaces. They use the same gateway, and they are using the same single eth0 adapter.
[21:55] <bekks> muculus: And that applies to debian too. This is Ubuntu support ;)
[21:57] <danportin> I'm trying to connect to my computer from an external network using SSH, but I'm having trouble defining the correct iptables rules. I have a port (say xxxx) forwarded from my router. Do I just need to accept input/output on that port over tcp?
[21:57] <adrian_1908> I was able to stop apache2 from autostarting with `systemctl disable apache2.service`. Starting it manually appears to work fine as before.
[21:57] <muculus> bekks: all of this virtual interfaces have public IP address.
[21:58] <bekks> muculus: hats what IP aliases are for.
[21:58] <bekks> *what
[21:58] <Gerowen> danportin: The firewall of the destination computer (the one you're trying to log into) must have the appropriate SSH port opened.  If it has a GUI, GUFW is an easy to use firewall modification tool.
[21:59] <Gerowen> danportin: The router can forward traffic all day long, but the computer also has to have the port the traffic is being sent to opened.
[21:59] <muculus> bekks: what do you mean?
[22:00] <bekks> muculus: IP aliases are for creating different IP addresses on the same physical interface.
[22:00] <danportin> Gerowen: Yeah, I'm trying to set up iptables for SSH on the destination computer. Thanks for recommending GUFW though, I'll give it a shot.
[22:01] <deliad> hi my usb soundcard is recongnized but cant select it in alsa
[22:01] <deliad> how i can solve it
[22:01] <deliad> ?
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> bekks: They're called "virtual interfaces", not "IP aliases", and they don't need to use the same gateway.
[22:02] <Gerowen> deliad: Have you tried rebooting since plugging in the card?
[22:03] <deliad> yes
[22:03] <Gerowen> deliad: Does it appear at all in the Ubuntu sound settings under the "output" tab?
[22:03] <deliad> it seems that jackd uses the card if i run it but alsa not
[22:03] <deliad> no
[22:04] <deliad> this is my cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> muculus: You want to do what's called "bonding" or "link aggregation", and set the algorithm to round robin.
[22:04] <muculus> bekks: I want to , first time when I run : 'wget http://whatismijnip.nl' it should returns first ip address, second time it should return eth0:2 ip address, and so...
[22:05] <muculus> tonyyarusso: I know bonding, but I don't know is it possible for virtual network interfaces or not. I couldn't find any documentation this way.
[22:06] <tonyyarusso> muculus: I think it would be the same for virtual ints as anything else.  Might be wrong, but try it :)
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> Virtual interfaces don't seem to be very common - I've only encountered them on VMs on Xen.
[22:08] <meatie> muculus, you can do that with a simple perl script.
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> muculus: Depending on exactly what you need, you might be able to get away with just creating two A records in DNS as well.
[22:10] <Gerowen> Well everybody I'm out for a little while, I need to go out to the building and do some painting on my truck.  If deliad returns he said he needs help with getting a USB sound card to work.  My wifi doesn't work in the shed out back.  You all have a good evening.
[22:10]  * Gerowen is away: I'm busy
[22:11] <muculus> tonyyarusso: I don't know how Dns can help?
[22:11] <meatie> virtual interfaces will work with bonding.
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> muculus: Your users will randomly get one record or the other to use, so roughly half of your users will use one IP and the other half the other IP.
[22:13] <muculus> meatie: Are you sure? I can't find any documentation about it, even one! :)
[22:13] <tonyyarusso> muculus: It doesn't help if you need an individual user's traffic to get split though, and there are various other caveats.  It's a poor man's solution, but sometimes handy.
[22:14] <muculus> tonyyarusso: DNS doesn't solve my situation. :(
[22:14] <meatie> just set the bonding options and try
[22:15] <meatie> and as far as getting the external IP of many interfaces...
[22:15] <meatie> just do....
[22:15] <meatie> for i in $(/sbin/ifconfig | grep "inet addr" | grep -v "127.0.0.1" | awk -F: '{print $2}' | awk '{print $1}'); do
[22:15] <meatie> curl --interface $i http://ipecho.net/plain
[22:15] <meatie> done
[22:16] <meatie> maybe a more elegant solution but you get the idea.
[22:18] <meatie> if you are trying to balance between your three interfaces... you have better options for load-balancing.
[22:18] <serch> finally a  luch linux mint on theese coffe maker
[22:19] <serch> but y can no wach a movie i put babel on dvd room and nathing happend
[22:19] <muculus> meatie: this script works well :) , What kind of options do you mean for load-balancing?
[22:20] <meatie> i don't know why he requires the 3 interfaces to be balanced
[22:20] <meatie> if its for webserver/websockets etc he can easily use many diff. options
[22:20] <meatie> haproxy comes to mind
[22:21] <meatie> ah i guess haproxy does handle websockets now. neat.
[22:25] <deliad> hi lost internet connection
[22:25] <sxp> any ideas on how to search in any English dictionary online allowing a list of words as input, to avoid having to search one by one?
[22:25] <cimbakahn> Hello Everyone!
[22:25] <deliad> /proc/asound/cards
[22:26] <cimbakahn> Does anyone here have Thunar File Manager on their computer?
[22:26] <daftykins> cimbakahn: what's the actual question?
[22:26] <cimbakahn> I am on Linux Mint 17 Qiana Xfce 64bit.  I want to know:  Can i uninstall thunar-media-tags-plugin without any problems?
[22:26] <cimbakahn> It reads:  Media tags plugin for Thunar file manager
[22:26] <deliad>  0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
[22:26] <deliad>                       HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7420000 irq 46
[22:26] <deliad>  1 [AVB            ]: USB-Audio - UltraLite AVB
[22:26] <deliad>                       MOTU UltraLite AVB at usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.3, high speed
[22:26] <deliad>  2 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[22:26] <deliad>                       HDA NVidia at 0xf5080000 irq 17
[22:26] <cimbakahn> It also reads:  This plugin allows tags editing from Thunar file manager  and tags-based file renaming from inside Thunar Bulk Renamer
[22:27] <artois> it's not required
[22:27] <meatie> sxp you could just fork/thread your requests.
[22:27] <artois> no package is, in fact
[22:27] <cimbakahn> Because it reads:  Media tags plugin for Thunar file manager  Will it affect Thunar file manager negatively if removed completely?
[22:27] <artois> cimbakahn: probably not for you if you want to remove it
[22:27] <cimbakahn> ?
[22:27] <deliad> my usb soundcard is AVB Motu Ultralite
[22:27] <daftykins> !mint | cimbakahn sorry.
[22:28] <deliad> can't select it in alsa mixer
[22:28] <deliad> what should i do?
[22:28] <deliad> also in pulseaudio
[22:28] <meatie> it's weird when people ask for help and then don't answer follow-up questions.
[22:28] <cimbakahn> I just did and they sent me somewhere else.  I thought i would try here since Mint is made from Ubuntu.
[22:29] <daftykins> cimbakahn: no, you see how it's a totally different network?
[22:29] <daftykins> are you sure you were on spotchat?
[22:29] <daftykins> cimbakahn: regardless no Mint help here, sorry.
[22:29] <daftykins> Mint has its' own problems
[22:29] <cimbakahn> Ok.  Thank you!
[22:30] <sxp> meatie: I'm not acquainted with 'fork/thread' but I'm going to search for them and how to make it work, I hope by limited background knowledge lets me get closer to a solution.
[22:31] <sxp> *my
[22:41] <Thorax2015_> HI all. Looking to install MATE DE on 15.04. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:42] <wileee> Thorax2015_, In the repos as an add a de or as a release?
[22:42] <Thorax2015_> Just to change the DE
[22:43] <Thorax2015_> So i can switch between the two
[22:43] <wileee> Thorax2015_, sudo apt-get install mate
[22:43] <Thorax2015_> Unity and mate
[22:43] <Thorax2015_> Doesnt that install vanilla mate and not the ubuntu version?
[22:43] <wileee> might be mate-desktop not sure it's in the repos
[22:44] <Thorax2015_> Would it be "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa"
[22:44] <wileee> Thorax2015_, If it is in the ubuntu repos, it is their approved install, there is a ubuntu mate release
[22:44] <wileee> Thorax2015_, ppa's are not suported here, mate is in the ubuntu repos, for the third time.
[22:45] <tgm4883> !info mate-desktop-environment
[22:45] <tgm4883> that's probably what he wants to installed
[22:45] <tgm4883> not sure why they didn't go with the standard naming convention
[22:45] <wileee> I don't guess
[22:46] <d0ghst> mate-desktop-environment-extras will get everything
[22:46] <Thorax2015_> Apologies, new to linux, I dont fully understand the differences between repos and ppa's and whatnot
[22:46] <wileee> Thorax2015_, ppa's are 3rd party repos, their all repos
[22:47] <Thorax2015_> Thats what I thought
[22:47] <wileee> Thorax2015_, Good questions though, if you not sure, we do want you smiling. ;)
[22:48] <Thorax2015_> Thank you wileee, its very much appreciated.
[22:48] <Thorax2015_> http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download Am i able to use the commands here for ubuntu 14.04? I am using 15.04.
[22:50] <d0ghst> depends on what you have installed now
[22:50] <Thorax2015_> Fresh install. In fact, the only thing I have done is run the software update, restart, then install Quassel
[22:51] <d0ghst> but fresh install of what?
[22:51] <Thorax2015_> Like i said, Ubuntu 15.04
[22:51] <d0ghst> sorry, I missed that
[22:51] <Thorax2015_> No worries :)
[22:52] <meatie> Thorax2015_, yes that should work fine with 15.04
[22:52] <wileee> Thorax2015_, there is this https://ubuntu-mate.org/trusty/
[22:53] <meatie> no, 15.04 is vivid.
[22:53] <meatie> https://ubuntu-mate.org/vivid/
[22:54] <Thorax2015_> Thanks meatie. I assume I would be better off using the second set of commands. As opposed to the ppa?
[22:54] <Thorax2015_> wileee, I wanted to use 15.04 really, and I do want to be able to switch DE's
[22:54] <d0ghst> Thorax2015_, this gives instruction that I have used - you can skip the ubuntu install part https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/2014-08-ubuntu-mate-14-04-from-scratch/
[22:54] <meatie> either way works.
[22:54] <wileee> Thorax2015_, Cool, I don't think mate was in the official repos for 14.04.
[22:54] <sakang> IIRC quassel is a KDE apps?
[22:55] <Thorax2015_> sakang: I found Quassel on the Ubuntu Software Centre
[22:55] <meatie> ubuntu-mate-core - Ubuntu MATE - core system
[22:55] <Thorax2015_> Always used Quassel on windows
[22:55] <meatie> i see mate in my apt-cache and i'm using 15.04
[22:55] <sakang> Thorax2015_: yes you can see it but it's a KDE app
[22:55] <wileee> works and supported here, may not shake hands
[22:56] <Thorax2015_> So will that cause problems using Quassel
[22:57] <sakang> not really, but installing quassel will bring in a lot of KDE stuff
[22:57] <sakang> or Kubuntu
[22:57] <Thorax2015_> ah
[22:57] <wileee> Thorax2015_, just a general statement, you wee given instances for install IE 14,04 build your own that would not be supported here possibly
[22:57] <theskillwithin> ==> default: Error: Execution of '/usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install php5-redis' returned 100: Reading package lists...
[22:57] <wileee> were*
[22:57] <theskillwithin> E: Unable to locate package php5-redis
[22:57] <Thorax2015_> XD Im so confused
[22:58] <eatingthenight> theskillwithin: you try php-redis?
[22:58] <meatie> he's new to Linux guys...
[22:58] <wileee> Thorax2015_, as far as support here?
[22:58] <meatie> Thorax2015_, why do you want to use Mate so bad?
[22:58] <theskillwithin> this is Vagrant using Puphpet
[22:58] <theskillwithin> why is it doing that wierd
[22:59] <eatingthenight> theskillwithin: did you run an apt-get update?
[22:59] <lunarctx56> Is there any reason software center is so sluggish?
[22:59] <wileee> theskillwithin, keep it in support and try to avoid the enter as punctuation. free volunteer help.
[22:59] <meatie> it can't read his package list
[22:59] <Thorax2015_> Because I've used Ubuntu in the past and I'm not a massive fan of unity. I like Mint a lot but im not a fan of the security concerns.
[22:59] <meatie> clean your package cache and rerun update.
[22:59] <meatie> use xfce Thorax2015_
[22:59] <meatie> screw all the bloat of everything else
[22:59] <Thorax2015_> any particular reason meatie?
[23:00] <meatie> without boring you... it's better and not bloating to shit.
[23:00] <lunarctx56> I second Xubuntu, but i'm not a fan of the whisker menu
[23:00] <wileee> meatie, Can we keep it to support without the biased fud, and clean language?
[23:00] <eatingthenight> xfce so nice. it's the only way i could get my laptop to last 6 hours
[23:00] <meatie> oh sorry wileee.
[23:00] <sakang> Thorax2015_: well, quassel is the iRC client for KDE, so there should be one equivalent for mate
[23:00] <meatie> didn't mean to offend, my bad.
[23:01] <Thorax2015_> Doesnt bother me meatie
[23:01] <wileee> no biggie, we want a minimum is all, world wide family channel
[23:01] <wileee> channel rules
[23:01] <meatie> makes sense.
[23:01] <meatie> i am a heathen, it comes out at times.
[23:01] <Thorax2015_> So, how do i go about installing xfce?
[23:01] <wileee> heh
[23:01] <meatie> xfce is less resource hungry so if you appreciate that, you'll enjoy it.
[23:02] <sakang> install xubuntu
[23:02] <Thorax2015_> Does xfce have a similar layout to linux mint cinnamon?
[23:02] <meatie> you can change everything to suit your needs, no matter what you choose.
[23:02] <theskillwithin> eatingthenight thank you i ssh into my vagrant machien now i am doing reprovision to see if error is gone
[23:03] <Thorax2015_> sakang, ive already said i want unity aswell as something else
[23:03] <Thorax2015_> Hence why i used the vanilla 15.04 install
[23:03] <Qbuo> Hey I have a supposedly easy question if anyone would be willing to help me for a bit?
[23:03] <lunarctx56> Yes, it's similar to mint.
[23:04] <sakang> Thorax2015_: I thought you want to install xfce?  Xubuntu is the ubuntu xfce flavor
[23:04] <lunarctx56> SIMILAR not the same
[23:04] <wileee> Qbuo, Spill it fpr help. ;)
[23:04] <wileee> for*
[23:04] <Qbuo> I want to completely erase my ubuntu partition
[23:04] <Thorax2015_> Yes sakang, I'm just trying to install another DE along side Unity
[23:04] <meatie> is that your question?
[23:04] <Qbuo> Yep
[23:04] <wileee> Qbuo, All in one post, likw with what and why and end goal.
[23:04] <theskillwithin> dang vagrant sucks with ubutnto
[23:04] <Qbuo> It's the only thing on my HD if that's a variable
[23:05] <theskillwithin> will the break anything?  http://pastie.org/10322911
[23:05] <meatie> vagrant is amazing with ubuntu.
[23:05] <meatie> vagrant+docker .. great dev. entails
[23:05] <theskillwithin> well then i suck with vagrant
[23:05] <Qbuo> I want to Uninstall Ubuntu 14.04 and all my data so I can install a new operating system
[23:05] <theskillwithin> I am using vagrant + puphpet
[23:05] <theskillwithin> what is docker?
[23:05] <meatie> docker.io
[23:05] <wileee> Qbuo, any install will wipe what you want, this is ubuntu support.
[23:06] <Qbuo> So installing anything will wipe what remains?
[23:06] <theskillwithin> u have to pay for it?
[23:06] <tgm4883> containers FTW!
[23:06] <wileee> Qbuo, If you do it yes, youhave not mentioned the other OS, really this is not a supported issue if not a ubuntu install.
[23:06] <Qbuo> Alright, thanks
[23:07] <theskillwithin> I am using puphpet/ubuntu1204-x64
[23:07] <Thorax2015_> So how can i install xfce on Ubuntu 15.04?
[23:07] <Qbuo> I have bootlegged windows that I want to upgrade to w10 so I can play my games :P
[23:07] <faqih> a
[23:07] <tgm4883> Qbuo: that's not this works, that's not how any of this works
[23:08] <Thorax2015_> Plus win10 is free
[23:08] <meatie> Thorax2015_, if you are new to linux become familiar with the package management first.
[23:08] <sakang> Thorax2015_: like I said install xubuntu.
[23:08] <meatie> then you'll be able to just search for 'xfce'... apt-cache search xfce
[23:08] <dogeywoof> can anyone help me access the appdata section in ubuntu?
[23:08] <Thorax2015_> I dont want to install xubuntu XD I keep saying that
[23:08] <dogeywoof> i know how in the terminal, but id like to do it graphically so i can see
[23:09] <Qbuo> tgm4883 what do you mean
[23:09] <Thorax2015_> I just want to add a different DE to my current install, not format and install XUBUNTU
[23:09] <meatie> Thorax2015_, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[23:09] <tgm4883> Qbuo: I mean, this isn't windows support, as we don't support it here
[23:09] <sakang> Thorax2015_: installing xubuntu adds xfce desktop alongised your existing DE
[23:09] <dogeywoof> when you type /.folder in the terminal it brings you to the hidden appdata, but i cant figure out how to access those folders through the gui explorer
[23:09] <Thorax2015_> Thankyou meatie. I am already pretty familiar with how the package management works. I just wasnt sure exactly how to install xfce
[23:10] <tgm4883> sakang: installling xubuntu-desktop would
[23:10] <meatie> you're welcome.
[23:10] <Qbuo> I just want to know if installing a new operating system will completely wipe the ubuntu partition
[23:10] <meatie> Qbuo, yes.
[23:10] <tgm4883> Qbuo: you've already been told it would
[23:10] <Qbuo> Well thanks for your help then, see you later
[23:11] <Thorax2015_> Qbuo, not if you partition your drive first
[23:11] <Qbuo> Thorax2015_ what?
[23:12] <theskillwithin> blah
[23:12] <Thorax2015_> Depends on your HDD's. If you have one drive with ubuntu on it, you will need to shrink the partition and install windows along side it.
[23:13] <Thorax2015_> Though you will end up having only the windows MBR. Its best to install windows first then ubuntu
[23:13] <tgm4883> Thorax2015_: he wants to wipe everything....
[23:13] <Thorax2015_> ohhh. Then yeah, go ahead haha
[23:13] <sakang> tgm4883: don't get confused between fresh install vs installing from package manager
[23:13] <theskillwithin> how do i know if redis is running?
[23:14] <tgm4883> sakang: I'm not confused
[23:14] <tgm4883> !info xubuntu
[23:14] <tgm4883> sakang: the only way to install "xubuntu" would be a fresh install. If you are using the package manager it would be xubuntu-desktop or xfce4
[23:15] <Thorax2015> Wow.... xfce is not very nice at all
[23:15] <artois> sure it is
[23:15] <tgm4883> Thorax2015: ?
[23:16] <Thorax2015> Task bar at the top, another mini taskbar at the bottom, whats that all about?
[23:16] <meatie> it's minimalistic
[23:16] <tgm4883> Thorax2015: well to be fair, you installed a flat xfce without any of the xubuntu customizations
[23:16] <Myrtti> something that you can change from default
[23:17] <tgm4883> Thorax2015: out of the box it looks like this http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/
[23:17] <Thorax2015> Not as minimalistic looking as mate or cinnamon
[23:17] <Thorax2015> tgm4883: yeah thats exactly what it looks like except i have a small bar at the bottom
[23:17] <wolfy1339> my computer is stuck in the grub CLI and I would like to boot a live usb, how would i go on to do that?
[23:18] <tgm4883> Thorax2015: how is that not as minimalistic as mate?
[23:18] <tgm4883> actually, mate has a bar on teh bottom
[23:18] <Thorax2015> yeah, and nowhere else
[23:19] <Thorax2015> Ahh i see, it was just a panel that I can move
[23:20] <fernando> hola
[23:20] <Guest19920> hol
[23:20] <Guest19920> HOLa
[23:23] <Thorax2015> ok xfce is pretty nice
[23:24] <meatie> Thorax2015, indeed it is
[23:24] <Thorax2015> I think the default layout was just a bit naff
[23:24] <Thorax2015> I cant get the taskbar to work over both my monitors though
[23:25] <danportin> tgm4883: just customize the interface; it will look as minimalistic as you prefer in no time at all.
[23:26] <Thorax2015> Yeah i am doing, its pretty damn flexible
[23:26] <tgm4883> danportin: I think you meant that for Thorax2015
[23:26] <danportin> tgm4883: I did, you're right. Sorry!
[23:26] <tgm4883> :)
[23:26] <meatie> Thorax2015, you might like https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky
[23:27] <treeprogram> hi, I'm trying to fix a battery issue stemming from the DSDT table. I've disassembed the file, fixed the problem, and recompiled it. Now how do I replace the existing DSDT table in /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/ with the modified one? I keep getting "operation not permitted", even when root
[23:27] <Thorax2015> How stable is cinnamon on Ubuntu 15.04
[23:27] <Taz3r> Bon allez ++ à dans une semaine
[23:27] <danportin> On Gerowen's suggestion, I installed Gufw to simplify editing iptables and connect to my machine from an external network. I still can't connect because (apparently) ufw keeps blocking my connection attempts (telnet and ssh). Am I doing something wrong? I'm really not sure what's wrong, here: <http://lpaste.net/137693>
[23:28] <Taz3r> Bon allez ++ à dans une semaine
[23:29] <tgm4883> danportin: you have SSHD running on port 2015 but allowed in port 22?
[23:29] <treeprogram> *getting "permission denied", not "operation not permitted"
[23:29] <david__> hello
[23:30] <pavlos_> leave
[23:30] <treeprogram> nevermind, I think I found instructions on how to do it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50656/no-battery-present-on-a-toshiba-satellite-l655
[23:30] <theskillwithin> how do I know if reddis is running?
[23:31] <meatie> redis? pgrep redis ...
[23:31] <danportin> tgm4883: I think ufw is permitting ingoing and outgoing tcp connections on port 2015 (I forgot to edit that last 2015 - too late); where do you see it allowed on port 22?
[23:31] <gr1zzlybe4r> What should I do if I cannot get my Gnome Display Manager to bootup? I stupidly ran 'sudo apt-get remove gtk+-3.0" and now I can only see "starting version 219" indefintely when trying to turn on my computer.
[23:32] <meatie> gr1zzlybe4r, recovery mode -> reinstall it.
[23:32] <tgm4883> danportin: that is what the GUFW says in your paste
[23:32] <gr1zzlybe4r> For reference -- I have reinstalled gtk3 by running sudo apt-get install gtk+-3.0
[23:32] <gr1zzlybe4r> meatie -- you mean reinstall gdm?
[23:32] <gr1zzlybe4r> I'm also in recovery mode now.
[23:32] <tgm4883> danportin: granted, I've not used GUFW, so I'm just reading what it says and hoping i'm right
[23:33] <meatie> i would try reinstalling gdm
[23:33] <meatie> tgm4883, nmap and see if the port is actually open
[23:33] <meatie> and i hope your router is forwarding the port
[23:33] <gr1zzlybe4r> argh -- ok I'll do that. Pretty dumb move to type "remove gtk+-3.0" lol.
[23:33] <deliad> hi
[23:33]  * tgm4883 sighs
[23:34] <deliad> i'm getting my usb souncard working with alsa thru jack in lmms
[23:34] <tgm4883> come on guys, at least read a little bit of the backlog
[23:34] <danportin> tgm4883: Oh, I see. That was the output of Gufw after selecting 'Deny' for 'Incoming'. That still doesn't answer the question why it's blocking ssh though, I think.
[23:34] <deliad> how i can use it in the whole system as default sound device?
[23:35] <meatie> ah sorry i just had a brainfart and was skimming the channel.
[23:35] <meatie> my mistake tgm4883
[23:36] <danportin> nmap -p 2015 <my local ip> gives: 2015/tcp open cypress (what is cypress?)
[23:40] <LennyMan> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°), ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ, ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°). ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o), ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ -, ( ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °) , ( ͡ ͡° ͡° ʖ ͡° ͡°). (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °), (ʖ ͜° ͜ʖ)
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[23:40] <euphoria42> Hi, im interested in running a visualization of Windows 7 for use to run programs like Photoshop when I need them, i have the specs for it. Im just wondering what software to use. I know of VirtualBox, but are there better options for me?
[23:41] <tgm4883> euphoria42: personally, I just use virt-manager and libvirt
[23:41] <tgm4883> well, I did when I had to run a windows VM
[23:41] <B0g4r7_> I use vmware, but that's non-free.
[23:42] <euphoria42> Does it offer any better performance over VirtualBox? tgm4883
[23:42] <tgm4883> euphoria42: I like to think so
[23:43] <Guest70666> wileee: Hi again, the guy with the grub issue. do you know of a way to boot into my linux dual boot from a live USB?
[23:44] <B0g4r7_> Guest70666, you might have a look at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:46] <stavros> hello
[23:47] <stavros> i'm trying to change a setting with "sudo -u myself gsettings <setting>" while i'm logged in, but it never changes. without sudo, it works fine. how can I make sudo work?
[23:50] <Guest70666> B0g4r7_: I had tried that, but it wanted me to activate a repo on my system.
[23:50] <gr1zzlybe4r> whomever it was that recommended that I install gdm again -- it worked. I also had to reinstall the gnome desktop envrionment. New question: is the `ubuntu-gnome-desktop` package the DE that comes with the Ubuntu Gnome distro? I installed just `gnome` and it looks different from the Gnome DE that I had when I freshly installed the Ubuntu Gnome distro.
[23:54] <Thorax2015> Just installed Mate custom Ubuntu version and hhrrrnnnnngggg
[23:54] <compdoc> whats that mean?
[23:54] <deliad> how i can use it in the whole system as default sound device?
[23:54] <daftykins> that's a detailed question alright.
[23:54] <deliad> i'm getting my usb souncard working with alsa thru jack in lmms
[23:55] <Thorax2015> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hrng
[23:56] <Thorax2015> What I'm saying is that Mate, is such nice, so wow
[23:56] <daftykins> thats not what your own link says
[23:56] <daftykins> :P
[23:56] <tgm4883> lol
[23:56] <Thorax2015> hahaha, no youre right
[23:57] <Thorax2015> Its supposed to be a.... sound, one would make...
[23:57] <daftykins> can we cut out that bit and get to the part where you ask a support question?
[23:57] <Thorax2015> Who me?
[23:57] <daftykins> yeah
[23:58] <Thorax2015> ahh sorry. I'm all good. Just saying ive installed a new DE and its awesome.
[23:58] <daftykins> i see. feel free to take such triumphs to #ubuntu-offtopic in future then :)
[23:58] <daftykins> here it's support only
[23:58] <Thorax2015> ahh apologies
[23:59] <Thorax2015> Thank you daftykins