[07:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:00] <soee> hiho lordievader
[08:00] <lordievader> Hey soee 
[08:00] <soee> lordievader: do you have some time to test Plasm 5.3.2 for Vivid ?
[08:03] <lordievader> I don't have any Vivid installs.
[08:03] <vip> if it works, i can test it
[08:04] <vip> (-:
[08:04] <vip> here on vivid with backports, i've got a lot of plasmadesktop crashes
[08:04] <lordievader> vip: I know one wat of finding out ;)
[08:04] <vip> cant be worse
[08:07] <soee> but im not sure what the ppa is
[08:07] <soee> probably this one: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma?field.series_filter=vivid
[08:09] <soee> Riddell: any idea what needs to be done to make this http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/87650/en-us work with sddm like 346 does ?
[08:44] <yofel> soee: how about using https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia ?
[08:44] <yofel> WFM
[08:45] <soee> yofel: i'v tried it once and xorg-edgers. it doesn't matter what ppa i use, only 346 works with sddm
[08:45] <soee> i'm not sure if there is some special configuration for this version to work  with sddm but it looks like
[08:52] <vip> soee: it is like month old
[08:56] <soee> yes but i don't see other ppa
[08:57] <soee> yofel: do you know where Scarlett have 5.3.2 builds for Vivid ?
[08:57] <soee> *has
[08:57] <yofel> no
[10:12] <clivejo> where would I get help with errors burning a DVD in wily?
[10:13] <Riddell> your local USB stick supplier
[10:13] <Riddell> I'm afraid I don't use dvds any more and I suspect they'll start to go the way of floppy disks where they'll break and nobody much will notice
[10:19] <clivejo> still a good way to archive data
[10:24] <clivejo> wow, a new version of Kubuntu is available
[10:31] <Riddell> alpha version
[10:31] <clivejo> wily + 1
[10:33] <Riddell> wily+1 is the version that will come out after wily, also called x-series and it'll get a codename when wily is released such as xiny xapelope
[10:33] <Riddell> the current +1 is wily
[10:34] <clivejo> I know
[10:35] <clivejo> just surprised at getting a "new kubuntu version available"
[10:35] <clivejo> but clicking on it did nothing :/
[11:53] <lordievader> sgclark: For how long will the test window for Vivid's Plasma 5.3.2 be open?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:51] <ari-tczew> why my messages are not visible on kubuntu devel discuss ?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew: I see your post above
[13:01] <ari-tczew> BluesKaj: I mean https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-July/thread.html
[13:03] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew:  are you a kubuntu memeber?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> err member
[13:03] <lordievader> ari-tczew: Is your email registered?
[13:25] <ari-tczew> BluesKaj: no
[13:25] <ari-tczew> lordievader: no
[13:26] <ari-tczew> lordievader: I receive emails e.g. from ubuntu-devel
[13:27] <Riddell> clivejo: oh you found that bug
[13:27] <Riddell> interesting
[13:28] <Riddell> clivejo: pastebin ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release  ?
[13:31] <lordievader> ari-tczew: So you are subscribed to the mailing list?
[13:33] <ari-tczew> lordievader: I'm not subscribed to the kubuntu-devel mailing list. should do I? 
[13:34] <ari-tczew> I just wanted to see my e-mails to the mailing list, not be subscribed.
[13:34] <ari-tczew> Riddell: could you answer to my last mail? I just don't want to make suprises for you in future.
[13:35] <Riddell> ari-tczew: hmm didn't I?
[13:35] <lordievader> If you want to send messages to it, I think you should be subscribed, yes.
[13:35] <Riddell> I seem to remember replying late last night
[13:36] <Riddell> ari-tczew: voila https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-August/009801.html
[13:36] <Riddell> maybe I missed out your e-mail address from it or something
[13:37] <clivejo> Riddell: no wily in there
[13:37] <Riddell> clivejo: ends at vivid?
[13:38] <ari-tczew> Riddell: ah, your mail was recognized as spam -,-
[13:38] <clivejo> yup
[13:38] <Riddell> ari-tczew: I'm not spam!
[13:38] <Riddell> I wonder why that is, that should be from my nice new server too
[13:39] <ari-tczew> Riddell: I'm know that, you know that, but the bot from my sever mail doesn't know. :P
[13:39] <clivejo> Riddell: peddling viagra and other such pills again? 
[13:39] <lordievader> soee: Did you find out where the vivid plasma 5.3.2 hangs out?
[13:39]  * clivejo shakes head
[13:40] <Riddell> clivejo: it should use /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker to check
[13:40] <Riddell> clivejo: what does python /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker; echo $?  give you?
[13:41] <clivejo> Could not load list of meta packages: No module named configparser
[13:41] <Riddell> clivejo: interesting
[13:42] <Riddell> clivejo: apt install python-future  ?
[13:42] <clivejo> BRB it wants to reboot after the lastest batch of updates
[13:42] <clivejo> I use Muon to update
[13:42] <clivejo> could that be the problem?
[13:43] <ari-tczew> lordievader: now I found a mail in spambox:  You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[13:43] <ari-tczew> kubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com.
[13:43] <Riddell> yes one way to stop muon having bugs is to stop using muon :)
[13:43] <Riddell> ari-tczew: you're not a member of the list presumably?
[13:43] <clivejo> I thought muon was the one for kubuntu!!
[13:44] <ari-tczew> Riddell: No, I'm not a member
[13:44] <Riddell> so indeed you can't post
[13:44] <ari-tczew> it just sounds like my mail is still banned :P
[13:44] <ari-tczew> that is a reason why I;m asking
[13:45] <Riddell> nope nothing like that is set
[13:46] <ari-tczew> ok
[13:47] <clivejo> installed that, now there is no output!
[13:47] <ari-tczew> Riddell: just curiosity: I saw an example, where the only missing delta is bumped Build-Depends on one package. can be it dropped or better keep?
[13:48] <Riddell> clivejo: python /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker; echo $
[13:49] <Riddell> ari-tczew: since it's scripted for our packages there's no point dropping it cos it'll just reappear again
[13:49] <clivejo> no output
[13:49] <Riddell> clivejo: python /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker; echo $?
[13:51] <Riddell> with ?
[13:51] <ari-tczew> Riddell: may Debian merge such changes @ d/control?
[13:51] <Riddell> ari-tczew: of course
[13:51] <clivejo> Riddell: 1
[13:52] <Riddell> clivejo: so I guess muon need to depend on python-future
[13:52] <Riddell> clivejo: your upgrade notification should go away
[13:52] <Riddell> clivejo: fancy fixing this in the archive/
[13:52] <Riddell> ?
[13:53] <clivejo> just add it to control file?
[13:53] <ari-tczew> Riddell: I'm wondering, who can to decide which changes will be incorporated from Ubuntu? The uploaders, the maintainer team or the Kubuntu team can make a decision themselves?
[13:54] <yofel> you'll want to talk to maxy on oftc about that
[13:54] <Riddell> ari-tczew: who can decide for debian? debian people
[13:54] <yofel> he usually does the merging if they take something from us
[13:54] <clivejo> BRB rebooting
[13:57] <ari-tczew> I thought just now is collaboration between Kubuntu team and Debian people and in effect e.g. Frameworks will be packages first in Debian and then will be everything automatically synced from Debian.
[13:57] <ari-tczew> but I think it's just a dream.
[13:59] <lordievader> Riddell: Do you happen to know what ppa I should add for Vivid plasma 5.3.2 testing?
[14:02] <Riddell> lordievader: staging-plasma it would be in no?
[14:03] <Riddell> ari-tczew: it's the same git archive, different branches, we merge as appropriate for the distro in question
[14:03] <lordievader> Yeah, it looked like that. But just to be sure I asked ;) I'll add that one.
[14:35] <lordievader> sgclark: Plasma 5.3.2 installed without problems on Vivid :)
[15:24] <mparillo> To test installing Plasma 5.3.2 on Vivid, do I need to uncheck backports, or simply add staging-plasma?
[15:26] <Riddell> mparillo: just add staging-plasma
[15:37] <mparillo> Muon Update Manager shows a ton of updates (it has been a while since I have booted to Vivid), but I can see the 5.3.2 packages in the list. Updating now.
[15:53] <mparillo> sgclark: kinfocenter reports thatI now have KDE Plasma Version: 5.3.2 running on Kubuntu 15.04. No obvious blow-ups.
[15:54] <mparillo> Question: Is it possible that the upgrade caused Vivid to go to the top (as the default) in my grub menu? Usually it seems to me that the last install goes to the top as the default.
[15:54] <lordievader> mparillo: Hooray \o/
[16:04] <clivejo> anyone else having trouble burning DVD's?
[16:20] <yofel> hm, added staging-plasma, now it tries to remove kubuntu-desktop :/
[16:22] <yofel> sgclark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11980623/
[16:26] <yofel> looks like libksysguard is missing in the ppa?
[16:31] <yofel> or the kf5 backport isn't published yet?
[22:07] <soee> worth read: http://www.rt.com/usa/311304-new-windows-privacy-issues/
[22:24] <yofel> where's the news? -.-