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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:59 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:57 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 11:58 |
| BluesKaj | hey penguin42 | 12:02 |
| studio_ | hi | 16:02 |
| studio_ | someone online, or only bots in here? | 16:02 |
| lordievader | No, just 111 bots in here. | 16:03 |
| studio_ | cool :) | 16:03 |
| studio_ | i need some help with ubuntu-desktop-next under vbox 5.0 | 16:04 |
| studio_ | it is still not working ... | 16:04 |
| lordievader | Not working.. how? | 16:05 |
| studio_ | under tail -f /var/log/systemlog i get a message like "can't connect to mir" or something like that ... | 16:06 |
| lordievader | Ah, Mir. I'm out ;) | 16:07 |
| studio_ | tail -f /var/log/syslog ... sorry | 16:09 |
| studio_ | ah, ok, who can "maybe" help? | 16:10 |
| studio_ | i am not happy about MIR, it makes more problems than it is helpful ... | 16:12 |
| studio_ | is 15.10 based on systemd or not? | 16:14 |
| penguin42 | Konsole output root 1 0 0 12:03 ? 00:00:08 /lib/systemd/systemd --system -- | 16:16 |
| penguin42 | deserialize 17 | 16:16 |
| studio_ | i am not sure about that, because i am able to set "enp0s3" via /etc/network/interfaces ... | 16:17 |
| penguin42 | (I would love to know why cutting/pasting is now prepending 'Konsole' when I paste from Konsole) | 16:17 |
| studio_ | why eth0 is now called enp0s3 in ubuntu-desktop-next? | 16:18 |
| Meerkat | where can I find existing bug reports on Wily? | 16:19 |
| studio_ | @Meerkat, Wily is working fine for exp. on Ubuntu-Studio, or Ubuntu-Mate, but on Unity8 with MIR it is a "no-go" ... | 16:22 |
| penguin42 | studio_: It comes from bios naming, it's great when you've got multiple ethernet cards and you need some consistency in how they get named | 16:23 |
| lordievader | studio_: That is the new udev/systemd interface naming, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ | 16:24 |
| penguin42 | you can turn it off if you feel really offended by it though | 16:24 |
| studio_ | @penguin42, how to use Ubuntu-Desktop-Next on VBox 5.0 ? | 16:25 |
| penguin42 | studio_: YOu don't need to use @ on here | 16:25 |
| penguin42 | studio_: And, I've not tried vbox recently, so not sure what the problem is | 16:25 |
| studio_ | @penguin42, Ubuntu-Desktop-Next is a heavy Alpha, I do not like, to install that on my HDD ... | 16:29 |
| studio_ | @penguin42, please, try to install it on VBox 5.0 ... | 16:31 |
| lordievader | Could it be that it requires proper hardware acceleration? | 16:31 |
| studio_ | I don't know, but "tail -f /var/log/syslog" allways tells me, that it can't connect to MIR ... | 16:36 |
| lordievader | Ubuntu Next doesn't use Systemd? | 16:36 |
| studio_ | i don't know, therfore i asked ... | 16:37 |
| lordievader | studio_: What does 'ps -p 1' return? | 16:37 |
| studio_ | @lordievader, on the phone or on the desktop? | 16:38 |
| lordievader | The Ubuntu Next thing... not sure if that is the phone or the desktop ;) | 16:38 |
| studio_ | the phone suckz ... | 16:39 |
| studio_ | i "think" the "phone" is a "sub-version" from Android" ... | 16:41 |
| lordievader | Where do you run the 'tail -f ...' on? | 16:42 |
| studio_ | @lordievader, under VBox 5.0 under Ubuntu-Desktop-Next, latest Version, Kernel 4.1 ... | 16:45 |
| lordievader | Right, so run 'ps -p 1' there ;) | 16:45 |
| studio_ | wait ... | 16:46 |
| studio_ | on the "Desk-Top": ps -p 1 | 16:52 |
| studio_ | PID TTY TIME CMD | 16:52 |
| studio_ | 1 ? 00:00:01 systemd | 16:52 |
| studio_ | but i am not able to login via UI ! | 16:53 |
| lordievader | Right, so you are using systemd. Then why ready /var/log/syslog? It ain't used. | 16:53 |
| lordievader | Use 'journalctl'. | 16:53 |
| studio_ | /var/log/syslog allway tells me, not able to connect to MIR ... or something like that ... | 16:54 |
| vivid | probably mir requires an egl driver and vbox isnt providing it? | 16:55 |
| lordievader | Is that information up to date? | 16:55 |
| studio_ | sudo service lightdm restart restarts the UI, but i am not able to login | 16:55 |
| vivid | right, mir, egl | 16:56 |
| lordievader | studio_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers | 16:56 |
| studio_ | @lordievader, sorry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers is describing why Ubuntu-Desktop-Next is not working unter VBox 5.0? So why i can still use /etc/network/interfaces under "systemd" ? | 17:02 |
| studio_ | did i missed something? | 17:06 |
| lordievader | No it describes the transition from upstart to systemd. | 17:10 |
| studio_ | but it seems not to be true ... is the Ubuntu-Touch-Device or the "Ubuntu-Desktop-Next" not able to handle true systemd? | 17:12 |
| studio_ | do i need to purge the "network-manager" to test it? | 17:15 |
| lordievader | studio_: If 'ps -p 1' returns systemd, you are running systemd ;) | 17:17 |
| studio_ | @lordievader, and if i am able to run systemd, why my network-configuration is still working unter /etc/network/intefacec | 17:30 |
| lordievader | Because it is configured there? | 17:30 |
| studio_ | interfaces and not unter /etc/systemd/network? | 17:30 |
| studio_ | so it is still compatible? | 17:31 |
| lordievader | No, Ubuntu configures their network devices in /etc/network/interfaces | 17:31 |
| studio_ | and since when eth0 is called enp0s3 ? | 17:33 |
| lordievader | Since some update of systemd/udev. | 17:33 |
| lordievader | See the link I posted earlier. | 17:33 |
| studio_ | so it is "nearly" same as fedora? | 17:34 |
| lordievader | Perhaps. I don't know Fedora. But seeing as Redhat developed Systemd, probably ;) | 17:35 |
| studio_ | ok :) | 17:35 |
| penguin42 | actually my fedora box seems to have called it em1 on this box, but hey such is variety | 17:39 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that should be consistent across OS'es. | 17:43 |
| lordievader | As it gets the name from the bios. | 17:43 |
| penguin42 | yes, I think it might depend on whether the bios is giving a sane answer | 17:45 |
| lordievader | That might very well be. | 17:46 |
| studio_ | my fedora (22) is using enp0s3 fot eth0, maybe it is a "chance" for ubuntu-touch ... | 17:46 |
| studio_ | since ubuntu-touch is just another clone from android, ubuntu-touch is not "my thing" ... | 17:48 |
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