kohta_hiranoalgun chileno00:02
daftykinsenglish only.00:02
kohta_hiranoohhh bye bye00:02
sggwhat does this error mean in package manager:00:06
sggE: Encountered a section with no Package: header00:06
daftykinssounds like corrupt package lists / tried to add a non-legitimate PPA00:07
sggWhat do I do about it?00:08
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daftykinssgg: well show a pastebin of "sudo apt-get update" first.00:08
daftykinsit's tough to tell what you're talking about without evidence00:08
sgghang on will I try.00:09
dogweatherAnyone hear anything about Swift language on Ubuntu?00:09
tpanmajiause this ppa: ppa:swift-core/ppa00:11
Guest70666Can anyone help me restore GRUB2 after it went kaptu apparently from booting into windows00:11
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:11
dogweather@tpanmajia thanks! I hadn't heard about that00:11
daftykinsjust booting windows won't kill it00:11
daftykinsGuest70666: was it Windows 8/10 ?00:11
tpanmajiadogweather: you're welcome00:12
dogweathertpanmajia: Ah hah, that's swift the datastore. I'm looking for rumors on Swift the new language by Apple00:13
Guest70666daftykins: it is 800:14
Guest70666daftykins: my system is about 2 years old with uefi00:14
wafflejockdogweather, you may want to try #swift-lang00:14
daftykinsGuest70666: enter your EFI setup and change the boot device to be the hard disk or SSD and not 'Windows Boot Manager', that's the common issue00:14
dogweatheryeah, will do. Apple promised a Linux/open-source release in the fall.00:14
harushimois there a way to upgrade vagrant on ubuntu?00:15
harushimoI'm running it on a vm00:15
sggdaftykins: http://pastebin.com/6yrPHuZN00:15
Guest70666daftykins: I don't uderstand the EFI setup, where would I find that?00:15
dogweatherharushimo: i didn't think you could run vagrant on a vm00:16
daftykinsGuest70666: pressing delete, F10, F2... any number of keys on power on. it really depends on the make and model of your device00:16
wafflejockharushimo, not clear what you're trying to upgrade00:16
harushimoI have ubuntu server running on vbox00:16
daftykins!info vagrant00:16
ubottuvagrant (source: vagrant): Tool for building and distributing virtualized development environments. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.5+dfsg1-2 (vivid), package size 272 kB, installed size 2239 kB00:16
harushimoI installed vagrant through apt-get00:16
harushimoI want to upgrade to 1.600:16
harushimoI want to upgrade that 1.600:16
harushimoi'm trying to install cloud foundry00:17
Guest70666daftykins: gotcha, enter the "bios" on startup00:17
wafflejockyeah looks like 1.6 is in the repo if you're on vivid00:17
harushimousing bosh lite00:17
daftykinsGuest70666: same thing. BIOS.00:17
daftykinsyou're just splitting hairs though.00:17
daftykinssgg: the pastebin needs to be one that shows the issue, also - that paste includes an error saying that you had another package manager open00:17
Guest70666daftykins: I do have it now that it has a time delay to press esc and then I can select Ubuntu, but when I do it dumps me to grub rescue00:17
harushimoI need to have the current version of vagrant00:18
daftykinsharushimo: time to look for a PPA then00:18
meatieor you could visit the website.00:19
harushimothat is what I thought00:19
harushimothank you00:19
daftykinsif you thought it why did you come here?00:19
meatie2 second google00:19
Guest70666daftykins: to clarify, on boot I have a time delay that I can press esc to enter a boot, but from those options I select Ubuntu and that would usually boot my system, now it just dumps out the grub rescue00:19
daftykinsGuest70666: check the setting suggested regardless00:20
Guest70666daftykins: will do00:20
sggdaftykins: http://pastebin.com/G6RRq4Vv00:20
daftykinssgg: which ubuntu are you on?00:21
sgg14 04 LTS00:22
daftykinssgg: ok, see the second error line? it says you have a PPA for steam added for the old precise version, aka 12.0400:22
daftykinssgg: try this first, "sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/repo.steam* "00:23
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daftykinssgg: then "sudo apt-get update" fresh - but you mostly want to delete that repo.00:23
daftykinsgo into your software and sources program under settings to find and disable, or better yet...00:23
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html00:23
sggdaftykins: trying with package manager to remove00:24
tommycannady=) ... is there something special i need to do to make a bootable image ?00:25
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tommycannadyof ubuntu to install i mean00:26
daftykins1) what did you download? 2) what OS are you on? 3) is the flash drive plugged in?00:26
tommycannadyI'm trying to make a dvd rw of ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso00:27
daftykinsyou mean - an actual optical disc?00:27
tommycannadyI'm on windows 7 ultimate atm00:27
daftykinsyou need to burn the ISO with a proper image capable program, grab yourself imgburn.com - but beware the installer has malware00:27
daftykinsor, might do.00:27
daftykinsflash drive would've been _way_ better00:28
sggdaftykins: Thank you so much for you advice.  We disabled steam in the pkg manager and ran it again and works!!!!!00:28
daftykinssgg: ;)00:28
tommycannadythanks daft monk00:30
__amine__Hello, When I try to boot from a DVD of 64bit Ubuntu, after I choose to boot from DVD in the splash screen that appears, It seems that everything is frozen and only the DVD turns in the reader, I've wait for 15min without any result, is this normal?00:31
wileee!nomodeset | __amine__00:31
ubottu__amine__: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:31
tommycannadyI wish i could help : )00:31
tommycannadymaybe one year00:31
daftykins__amine__: run the 'test disc for defects' option00:31
wileee__amine__, could be a driver issue as nomodeset would generally work, could be a bad burn or download, you can check the sums00:32
wileee+1 defects00:32
__amine__wileee : for the sum it's ok00:32
wileee__amine__, One of at least 3 comments I addressed00:33
__amine__ubottu : After choosing boot from DVD, I don't gat a black screne, but only the frozen splash screen00:34
ubottu__amine__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:34
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tpanmajia__amine__: reboot and try again00:36
__amine__tpanmajia : I do it more than 5 times00:36
tpanmajiawhat OS? versio00:37
wileeetpanmajia, Tis is ubuntu support, this user was given fair options, we might let them try those.00:38
__amine__tpanmajia : CAELinux 2013 64bit00:38
__amine__tpanmajia : based on xubuntu 12.0400:39
wileee__amine__, Not supported, find the right channel00:39
tpanmajiaThis is not ubuntu. Go to ##linux00:39
__amine__wileee : this is an Ubuntu problem. They only pre-Install  engineering software00:40
daftykinswell, it is #ubuntu00:40
daftykins__amine__: sorry, not allowed here.00:40
wileee__amine__, Not in a derivative it is not. ;)00:40
tpanmajiais derivative allowed here?00:41
navetzcan someone please help me fix the speed of my ubuntu launcher. I swear it takes like 10 seconds to load anything when i type it into the search bar00:42
tommycannadydo i need to use any special options in imgburn ? Oo00:44
daftykinstommycannady: keep verify ticked, maybe turn off the sounds so you don't hear an annoying jingle when it finishes...00:45
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wafflejocknavetz, turn off the filters/scopes you don't want it to search00:50
wafflejocknavetz, you can also disable the blur using the unity-tweak tool I'm pretty sure00:50
navetzwafflej0ck, awesome i'll look into it, thanks00:50
wafflejocknavetz, yeah the scopes/filters you should be able to disable right in the dash (think its bottom right area)00:50
navetzwafflej0ck, I can change the filters, but everytime i search it attempts to search everything.00:52
macskayHi guys, I've just re-installed my ubuntu and removed all the applications I don't want and of course all the ones i want. Is there an opportunity to take the current state of my ubuntu and turn into a distro, which I can just install everytime I want to format my machine. That would be way more convenient than removing/nstalling unwanted/wanted software each time I setup a new ubuntu.01:07
* uberius Saluda a tod@s...01:07
tpanmajiamaybe distro-creator?01:08
daftykinsmacskay: don't think so. why not store a disk image with clonezilla?01:09
lotuspsychje!info aptoncd | macskay or this01:09
ubottumacskay or this: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.98+bzr117-1.4 (vivid), package size 213 kB, installed size 1561 kB01:09
macskayhm alright, i just found remastersys,might that work too?01:10
cimbakahnAre these 6 red entries anything to worry about ----> http://imgur.com/t79JIZ501:10
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lotuspsychjecimbakahn: bleachbit always gives errors, no sweat mate01:13
lotuspsychjemacskay: a clean ubuntu install only takes 30min, try make a collection of your fav debs01:14
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lotuspsychje!ops | horselover01:14
ubottuhorselover: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang01:14
* phunyguy looks up01:15
lotuspsychjephunyguy: he's been spamming channel for few days now01:15
phunyguynot really much we can do about it/.01:16
phunyguysorry :(01:16
lotuspsychjeno sweat :p01:16
lotuspsychjetnx anyway01:16
phunyguydifferent IPs, etc01:16
phunyguyDrone usually catches it before it gets bad01:16
lotuspsychjephunyguy: what about a nickban? comes back with horselover01:17
phunyguynaah useless ban.  They will just change nicks.01:19
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phunyguyactually been going on a while now.01:19
sonicxok is lubuntu 14.10 and 12  still geting update?01:26
lotuspsychje!14.10 | sonicx01:27
ubottusonicx: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic01:27
lotuspsychjesonicx: 12.04 still alive, see topic for supported versions01:27
sonicxis there a os that is as low  as 12.0401:28
daftykins'as low' ? what does that mean01:29
daftykinsit's the DE that's the kicker, not the version so much01:30
lotuspsychjesonicx: you need a lightweight flavor?01:30
daftykinslubuntu 14.04 would do you fine.01:30
sonicxok but the updates ended right?01:31
lotuspsychjesonicx: for 14.10 yes01:31
lotuspsychjesonicx: is this the version you have installed right now?01:32
sonicxya i tryed kubuntu but not working so good01:32
sonicxto slow01:33
Artemis3vsonicx, how much ram?01:33
lotuspsychjesonicx: try what daftykins sugested lubuntu 14.04 fresh install01:33
Artemis3vsonicx, and what video?01:33
sonicxcpu speed 2.93GHZ01:33
sonicxon bored video 8m01:34
Artemis3vbut no discrete, nvidia or such?01:34
Artemis3v2gb should not be too slow01:34
Artemis3vsonicx, do try lubuntu/xubuntu if you want, i'd say 32bit, but stick to lts01:34
Artemis3vsonicx, i'm guessing the bottleneck is your video01:35
sonicxxubunto seem to run ok then it wan't boom like had the power to do more but did not use or something like that01:36
Artemis3vsonicx, and perhaps unity is way too heavy for an onboard with 8m ram01:36
sonicxso what do I do ?01:39
cimbakahnlotuspsychje: Thank you!01:40
lotuspsychjecimbakahn: no prob, try also installing preload if you like system clean/tweaks01:41
lotuspsychje!info preload | cimbakahn01:41
ubottucimbakahn: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB01:41
sonicxbrb I got some old viedo cards01:43
cimbakahnI am trying to keep my OS as lite as possible.01:45
lotuspsychjecimbakahn: good choice01:45
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cimbakahnlotuspsychje: I was told that i should leave it alone.  Especially since those 6 red entries have been there a very long time.01:58
hp_how can i install this file quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing01:58
hp_i am trying to upgrade from 12.04lts to 14.04lts but missing this file01:59
johnny_maybe 14.10?01:59
hp_i want to upgrade my 12.04lts02:01
lotuspsychjejohnny_: 14.10 is end of life02:01
daftykinshp_: you're attempting to tell your OS to upgrade to 12.10 which was quantal, you've messed up02:01
daftykinsyou want an LTS -> LTS upgrade02:01
daftykinsor better yet, just install 14.04 clean02:01
xanguahp_: I'm guessing you have a quantal repository enabled which you shouldn't, but that's all I can do unless you share with us your actual message(s) error02:02
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:02
LarryBHello all02:02
LarryBquick question:02:02
lotuspsychjeLarryB: welcome02:02
lotuspsychjehp_: yes02:03
hp_xangua, it is a bit list of commands, how can i send these for you to see?02:03
LarryBwhen an install steps asks you to setup mysql database and insert schema with php includes/update/update.php02:03
LarryBand i get an error....02:03
hp_not bit i meant big list02:03
LarryBaccess denied for user  (using password=yes)02:03
LarryBhow do I get past this02:03
LarryBim thinking maybe I need to find out where to put my user as a sqlserver permissions02:04
LarryBbut not sure where to do this in Ubuntu.  Mint let me in control panel02:04
hp_Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)02:04
hp_WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing02:04
hp_Failed to fetch02:04
hp_Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem.02:04
lotuspsychjeLarryB: maybe the #mysql guys know this?02:04
LarryBtry sudo and command hp_ ?02:05
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lotuspsychjehp_: try what daftykins sugested: clean install 14.0402:05
daftykinshp_: please don't paste more random things, i already said what's up :)02:05
hp_can i do it through the terminal?02:05
daftykins"it" ?02:06
bangawkinghello ubuntu . .02:06
hp_the 14.04lts version02:06
lotuspsychjebangawking: welcome, what can we do for you?02:07
daftykinshp_: what kind of system is it?02:07
daftykinsno, that's the architecture02:07
hp_Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz × 202:08
bangawkingi have a problem with the wifi icon not showing up on the system bar at the upper right . . can you help me please? :)02:08
lotuspsychjebangawking: wifi chipset and ubuntu version,?02:08
daftykinshp_: still not the right info02:09
daftykinsbut lets guess desktop02:09
daftykinshp_: download the 14.04 ISO02:09
hp_yes a PC02:09
bangawkingwifi is working  . . its just that the wifi Icon is not displayed . . so it gives me a hard time switching between the wifi AP's02:09
daftykinsa PC can be laptop AND desktop02:09
bangawkingubuntu 14.0402:09
lotuspsychjebangawking: hmm weird indeed, might be nm-applet search your logs perhaps, syslog and dmesg02:10
xanguabangawking: did you remove gnome network manager? Tried to reset unity?02:10
bangawkingI just did an apt-upgrade . . . how do I reset unity? . .02:11
* LarryB sends his message. Thanks all, I got it figured02:11
bangawking* apt-get upgrade02:11
lotuspsychjebangawking: why do you wann reset unity after upgrade?02:12
garlicmollymalonhello there, I am at a new hotspot location and connect button in wi-fi password window is greyed. in system settings> network I dont see anything changed. why could this happen or how can I enable it again?02:12
bangawkingxangua asked if i have reset the unity  . . would re-installing the ubuntu unity fix this?02:13
LarryB /part02:13
lotuspsychjebangawking: when have this been started, did it work before?02:14
bangawkinglotuspsychje: maybe like 3 weeks ago . . the icon was working fine until i updated the whole system.02:16
lotuspsychjebangawking: check your syslog and dmesg, anything related to wifi and nm-manager02:17
sonicxthe computer sead ok to the video card but linux said "no no no this will not do "  lol oo well02:17
lotuspsychjesonicx: explain what you tryed to do?02:18
sonicxI had some old viseo cards but linux did not like it02:19
lotuspsychjesonicx: just install lubuntu 14.04 on your 8mb onboard video02:19
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lotuspsychjebangawking: you can browse logs with the log viewer icon02:22
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sonicxok after installing it what will I do for update like protection02:22
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus02:23
lotuspsychjesonicx: install updates02:23
holmsI have problem with upstart script it seems to be stuck. not realeasing tty? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11977248/ anybody had this?02:26
locksmith2Host: host1-OS: Linux 3.16.0-23-generic/x86_64-Distro: Ubuntu 14.10-CPU: 8 x Intel Core i7-2860QM (921.093 MHz)-Processes: 270-Uptime: 7d 22h 3m-Users: 4-Load Average: 0.53-Memory Usage: 13376.2MB/15960.65MB (80.68%)-Disk Usage: 770.95GB/1617.12GB (47.67%)02:28
lotuspsychje!eol | locksmith202:28
locksmith2macbook pro02:28
ubottulocksmith2: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades02:28
holmswhere to ask server questions of ubuntu?02:30
lotuspsychje!server | holms02:30
ubottuholms: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server02:30
puterHi all was just wondering how to apply some xrandr settings system wide at boot rather then per-user at login with .xprofile any ideas anyone?02:31
lotuspsychjeputer: you have much users?02:32
locksmith2is there a channel about smoking marijuana on freenode?02:32
asdlocksmith2 not the channel...02:33
puterDang it! just after I type here I figure out the correct keyword to get the sort of response I am looking for from the search enginee!02:33
puterWell yes lotuspsychje I see your point but I just wanted to prevent any hoohar if someone loged in to the guest accout by mistake, you know how people just expect things to work?02:36
lotuspsychjeputer: you can disable guest account if you like :p02:37
daftykinsputer: so right now you're setting a correct display setup via a scripted xrandr call on login?02:37
hp_i want to create a USB stick with 14.04lts, i only have on my PC 12.04lts but i see the usb creators are in .exe03:01
hp_what usb creator program i can use with ubuntu 12.04lts to create a 14.04lts?03:01
wileeehp_, is there an app called startup disk creator on 12.04?03:02
wileeehp_, it's for ubuntu loading usb's03:03
hp_i only will need to transfer the iso 14.04lts?03:04
wileeehp_, you link the iso and the usb in the app and hit enter and like magic you have a bootable usb03:04
wileeeit is really, there are others try it first03:05
hp_i am still download 14.04lts, the connection a bit slow today.03:05
wileeehp_, Good, were here if needed. ;)03:06
hp_thank you03:06
wileeehp_, No problem, enjoy.03:08
pavanhi der03:29
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cfhowlettsez u.  not even non yet!03:47
agent_whiteHahah :) How goes it, cfhowlett?03:49
cfhowlettAgent_Smith_BR, another day in the rat race.  I'm not first.  I hate the view.03:50
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Fudgeanyone know why gnome would not log in but unity will, any new user wont log into gnome and the xsessions error is not much help03:54
agent_whitecfhowlett: Fair enough. I've got some late-night coffee in me! *cracks fingers*04:02
cfhowlettagent_white, cool.  ext question is *alllllll* yours.  :)04:03
agent_whitecfhowlett: Good deal :D04:04
Karneevhi everybody. can anyone tell me how to put nickname into te text line by double clicking in konversation? oh, and excuse my bad english..04:05
cfhowlett!tab | Karneev04:06
ubottuKarneev: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.04:06
agent_whitecfhowlett: This mean I have to take the next two? :(04:08
Karneevcfhowlett: thx04:08
cfhowlettHey I waited agent_white04:08
cfhowlettso yeah > next 204:08
Karneevubottu: yeap, i know, but its easier to use mouse imho04:09
ubottuKarneev: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:09
Karneevok ok, got it04:09
Karneevthx anyway04:09
agent_whitecfhowlett: Haha you're on the ball. TIL another ubottu command.04:09
sonicx? can yumi miss up a older versionof linux04:14
sonicxversion of04:16
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CooloutACanyone use qemu-kvm?   how the heck do I restart the libvirtd service?04:52
tonyyarussoCooloutAC: wouldn't service libvirt-bin restart do it?04:53
CooloutACtonyyarusso: tks man04:54
CooloutACi didn't have the -bin part04:54
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CooloutACI can't get sound in a kvm guest its driving me insane right now04:58
CooloutACI'm ready to throw it in the trash can and install vbox04:59
tgm4883CooloutAC: tab complete is your friend05:02
CooloutACtgm4883: what?05:02
tgm4883!tab | CooloutAC05:02
ubottuCooloutAC: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:02
CooloutACtgm4883: when did I say someones nick wrong?05:03
tgm4883CooloutAC: it also works for things like libvirt-bin05:03
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CooloutACtgm4883: it actually doesn't work for libvirt-bin05:08
tgm4883CooloutAC: are you logged in as root?05:13
tgm4883CooloutAC: cause it works for me here05:13
CooloutACwhen there is a dash it doesn't work05:14
CooloutACare u logged into my computer?05:14
tgm4883CooloutAC: I don't know what you mean it doesn't work when there is a dash. I just tried it for libvirt-bin05:16
CooloutACdoesn't work05:16
tgm4883CooloutAC: are you logged in as root?05:17
CooloutACtype libvirt press tab,   doesn't show anything with -bin05:17
CooloutACtype the dash,  type tab,   doesn't cmoplete05:17
CooloutACtype -b  doesn't complete05:17
CooloutACwtf are you talking about?05:17
CooloutAChacking piece of shit05:18
tgm4883CooloutAC: err, it's a service. Do 'sudo service libvir<tab>'05:18
tgm4883CooloutAC: ???05:18
CooloutACwtf dont' you understand05:18
CooloutACstop spying on people05:18
CooloutACit doesn't work05:18
CooloutACyou fkd up and goofed05:19
CooloutACi hope you spy on the wrong guy one day,  and you get murdered05:19
tgm4883CooloutAC: well thanks for the fun kiddo, but I think it's time you go take your meds05:19
CooloutACya ok....05:19
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList05:19
CooloutACyou tell me tab for names,  when i didn't spell anyones name wrong05:19
CooloutACthen you give me this bs about ilbvirt,  when it won't even work for that05:20
CooloutACyou crack me up man05:20
CooloutACwhat you did was see me typed a command wrong on my box05:20
CooloutACyou fk05:20
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baizonhi Guest1041905:22
tonyyarussoCooloutAC: Wishing for people to be murdered is not appropriate for this channel.  (Also, he's right.)05:27
CooloutACi typed your name fine05:27
CooloutAChes probably logged into my box and saw me type a command wrong05:28
CooloutACnow hes trying to play it off about libvirt05:28
tonyyarussoHe's not logged into your system....  But libvirt-bin will autocomplete.05:28
CooloutACnot as root05:28
tonyyarussoYes it will.05:29
CooloutACbut he pasted me stuff about names until i questions him what name i typed wrong05:29
CooloutACno it won't05:29
tonyyarussoYou can be wrong as much as you like, but you're the one who wanted help, sooooo....05:29
redrum187Is anyone available to help with a dual boot install problem?05:29
CooloutACi don't need people spying on me05:29
baizonguys, please stop. This is a support channel, if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic05:29
CooloutACi hope he gets hit by a car05:29
Satellitehidden op, nice05:30
Comstockhidden op is deadliest op05:30
Satelliteanyone running Ubuntu on a MacBook Air?05:30
* tonyyarusso sighs05:30
wileeenobodies hidden05:30
baizonthank you tonyyarusso05:30
tonyyarussoSatellite: No, but I used to run it on a MacBook Pro, if that at all helps.  Was several releases ago though.05:31
redrum187I just installed ubuntu but it won't show up in the boot menu, and it boots straight to windows.05:31
SatelliteI'm just wondering how different the battery life is between Ubuntu and OSX on a MacBook05:31
baizonredrum187: then you havent installed grub properly05:31
DalekSectonyyarusso, tgm4883: In *dash* tab complete won't work with that, correct.  $ dash<enter>  then  $ sudo service libv<tab>05:32
redrum187baizon: That makes sense, but I followed the dialog instructions.05:32
baizonDalekSec: dash isnt ment to do this, open a terminal and then use it05:32
tonyyarussoSatellite: Significant, but getting better all the time.  I don't think I can give you any hard numbers, but it will still be longer than most non-Mac laptops.05:32
baizonredrum187: maybe you did install it in the wrong place05:32
DalekSecbaizon: Not my point, but anywho.05:32
tgm4883DalekSec: dash doesn't auto-complete?05:32
baizontgm4883: not in the search line, in the results05:33
redrum187Hm. How do I determine if that is the case?05:33
DalekSectgm4883: It's a pretty basic one.05:33
tgm4883DalekSec: why would anyone want to use that.....05:33
Satellitetonyyarusso: Do you remember how you did the install? Did you use refit or did you just format the HD and install it normally?05:33
baizonredrum187: run gparted and check it, or if you want it in cmd, use fdisk05:33
redrum187I can run gparted from windows?05:33
redrum187er, nvm05:33
redrum187I understand now.05:33
baizonredrum187: redrhttp://gparted.org/livecd.php05:34
DalekSectgm4883: /bin/sh links to dash, so to experiment I suppose (nice way to see how a script would work if you don't have #!/bin/bash at the header)05:34
baizonsorry, wrong url05:34
wileeeredrum187, This W8?05:34
redrum187wileee: yes05:34
tonyyarussoSatellite: I *think* I just installed like any other dual-boot.  There was a Mac-specific ISO though.05:34
SatelliteGotcha, thanks tonyyarusso05:35
wileeeredrum187, Have you looked at the UEFI wiki, if needed?05:35
redrum187wileee: windows 8.1 actually05:35
SatelliteI believe there isn't a Mac-specific ISO anymore because Ubuntu supports UEFI now05:35
redrum187wileee: I haven't looked at the wiki05:35
tgm4883DalekSec: weird, I just ssh'd into my server to check it before telling the guy and it worked for me05:35
tonyyarussoSounds right05:35
* tgm4883 shrugs05:35
SatelliteI'm just debating whether I'm better off with Ubuntu or OSX05:35
Satellitetough decision05:36
DalekSectgm4883: because you're sane and use bash as a login shell.05:36
tonyyarussoSatellite: Both!05:36
wileeeredrum187, THis your install or a manufacturers of windows?05:36
Satellitetonyyarusso: I'd love to dual-boot but it's only a 128gb SSD05:36
redrum187wileee: Manufacturer install05:36
tgm4883DalekSec: ah yes, that is why :)05:36
tgm4883DalekSec: which is what gets setup by default in ubuntu05:36
wileee!uefi | redrum187 More than likely you have this setup.05:37
ubotturedrum187 More than likely you have this setup.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI05:37
redrum187ubottu: It showed up as UEFI when I was installing.  I'll look at the link though.  Thank you.05:37
ubotturedrum187: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:37
wileeeredrum187, You may have installed fine but this is a great reference.05:37
tonyyarussoSatellite: Well, you only need a couple gig for Ubuntu - nbd.05:38
baizonyeah, i always disable uefi on my systems05:38
redrum187baizon: why is that?05:38
baizonredrum187: because its windows stuff. Nothing useful from it05:39
baizoni only had trouble with uefi05:39
redrum187baizon: Hm.  I didn't think it was windows specific.05:39
wileeebaizon, efi gpt is not windows stuff and highly preferred.05:39
SatelliteDoes Ubuntu support Thunderbolt yet?05:40
SatelliteI guess I could google that05:40
redrum187wileee: I rebooted from a livedisk and I have run gparted05:52
redrum187baizon: are you still online?05:54
redrum187Gparted says I have 8 partitions05:54
redrum187is that normal?05:54
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baizonredrum187: the best thing would be to make a screenshot and post it05:57
HelmedHorrorHi, I'm very confused about the Ubuntu wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com). This looks nothing like any wiki I've ever seen. There's no categories, no sidebar, no directory or index of any sort whatsoever, no collection of popular articles, no history or discussion tabs, and searching for something as simple as "settings" brings back tangential results...05:57
redrum187baizon: does that work?05:59
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redrum187I'm guessing the black unknown partition with a a red exclaimation point is bad...06:00
redrum187can anyone check out my screenshot to help me understand? Pretty please?06:04
Comstockthat is a windows partition06:05
redrum187It wouldn't show up as NTFS?06:06
Seven_Six_Tworedrum187, it's not for windows users. it's for the OS06:06
Comstockmsftres -- This flag means "Microsoft reserved." It's used as "scratch space" by certain Microsoft tools, so it should not be deleted or re-purposed unless you're deleting Windows.06:06
megamansecHi. I have a computer whose psu failed, and I've replaced the PSU. However, when I plug in the harddrive I was using when it failed into the now-repaired box, the system reboots just after I click enter in the grub bootloader. Other harddrives work, and the harddrive works in a different system. Is there some kernel-level checks that could prevent is from booting?06:07
redrum187I saw the msft part, didn't know how it was significant though.  Ok.  Thanks.  Is there enough information to explain why it boots straight to windows though?06:07
ziz15megamansec: try repair boot loader with a live iso and install boot-repair package ubuntu has a page with information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair06:09
megamansecAlright. I find it strange that it boots on a different computer though06:10
cos77hello somebody can help me about bash array in ubuntu system?06:11
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agent_whitecos77: What do you mean "bash array"?  Are you interested in programming in bash?06:14
cos77only a problem with i declare a array06:16
cos77Syntax error: "(" unexpected06:17
cos77array=("a" "b" "c")06:17
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megamansecStrange.. fsck reports no problems, and it's only when I press enter to go into Ubuntu in the grub bootloader it just reboots..06:21
megamansecEven when I set up the harddrive as an external in the same machine.06:24
patrick__hi all06:31
megamansecAlright, a bit more info now. When attempting to boot into recovery mode, it gets to "loading initial ramdisk", then reboots.06:33
EriC^^megamansec: boot a live usb06:33
megamansecdoing that now06:35
megamansec'?rescue a broken system'06:35
megamansecheh, that crashes the computer too. guess it's a hardware issue.06:35
EriC^^no just get a live session06:36
EriC^^try ubuntu06:36
megamansecthis is a ubuntu-server, so there is no option for a live session/try ubuntu, as there is on ubuntu desktop. should I try an ubuntu desktop cd?06:37
megamansecalright I found one. give me a few minutes06:42
redrum187:( the ubuntu option still doesn't show up in bios06:42
redrum187does anyone have experience with dual boot issues?06:44
EriC^^what ubuntu option?06:45
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redrum187EriC^^: if you are responding to me, I don't understand your question.06:46
EriC^^what ubuntu option in the bios are you talking about?06:47
HelmedHorrorHi, I'm very confused about the Ubuntu wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com). This looks nothing like any wiki I've ever seen. There's no categories, no sidebar, no directory or index of any sort whatsoever, no collection of popular articles, no history or discussion tabs, and searching for something as simple as "settings" brings back tangential results. It seems more like a welcome page with almost no content... what am I missing?06:48
redrum187I installed ubuntu 14.04 from a liveboot disk but it does not load grub, nor does the option to boot from the ubuntu partition show up in the bios.06:48
EriC^^redrum187: ok06:52
EriC^^so it boots to windows?06:52
redrum187Yes, and if I have the liveboot ready I can boot from there, but the native ubuntu partition does not show up in/load from bios06:52
redrum187If I load the liveboot and run Gparted, it looks "normal" (at least, what I think it should look like)06:53
EriC^^redrum187: ok, boot a live usb06:53
redrum187EriC^^: alright, I can do that.  Then once I'm booted?06:54
ObrienDaveor imgur a screenshot so we can see it06:54
EriC^^sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999906:54
redrum187what does that do?06:56
ObrienDaveHelmedHorror, a wiki is a user editable database of information. it does NOT have to look like wikipedia. ROFLMAO06:56
EriC^^shows the partition table06:56
redrum187Alright, what do I do with that information?06:56
EriC^^it'll give you a link to it pastebinned06:57
EriC^^paste it here06:57
HelmedHorrorObrienDave: I understand that, but it doesn't have any information as far as I can tell. Why, for example, when I type in "settings" or "desktop" does it not bring me to that article?06:58
HelmedHorrorLike, where ARE the articles?06:59
HelmedHorrorI understand very well how wikis work.06:59
redrum187Alright, I need to reboot, but I will return.  Thank you.06:59
wileeeHelmedHorror, What kind of articles?07:00
HelmedHorrorwileee: Everything... you know, about how to use Ubuntu, what the different settings do, the directories, the different versions, everything07:01
HelmedHorrorthe documentation... just, everything07:01
HelmedHorroram I misunderstanding the nature of the Ubuntu wiki?07:01
wileeeHelmedHorror, Probably not exactly what you want but there is a manual, to some extent you have to be familiar and have good foo.07:02
HelmedHorrorI was hoping to use the Wiki to get information on everything to do with Ubuntu. Is that not what it's for?07:02
wileeeHelmedHorror, Everything really is it's linux, rather complex to have it all in one place.07:02
HelmedHorrorwileee: But then what IS the wiki for?07:03
HelmedHorrorif not "everything"07:03
wileeeHelmedHorror, has a number of important links and a search engine, probably again a matter of needs and familiarity.07:03
wileeeHelmedHorror, I would agree there are more compacted setups arch for example07:04
HelmedHorrorFor example, why don't I see "Getting Started" or "FAQ about Ubuntu" or "Beginner's guide to Ubuntu" or anything? I mean no offense, but this is just a bizarre wiki in terms of software documentation07:04
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/07:04
ikoniaif you want docs https://help.ubuntu.com is a good starting point07:05
ikoniaespecially as an introduction on how to use ubuntu07:05
trijntjeHelmedHorror: ubuntu comes with its own documentation, just search for 'help' in the menu. The wiki is more technical documentation07:05
ObrienDavebut it's not a wiki ;P07:05
meatieHelmedHorror, try reading a blog or howtoforge.07:05
meatieit might be easier to read for you07:05
ikoniado not use hottoforge07:05
ikoniait's terrible07:05
HelmedHorrorAh, okay, I thought the wiki itself was basically the full manual and documentation. Thanks for the link to help.ubuntu.com07:05
meatieit might give him some basic understanding.07:06
ikoniaHelmedHorror: help.ubuntu.com should get you started and moving, then you can focus on specific topics07:06
ikoniameatie: it will give him bad information07:06
HelmedHorrorikonia: Yeah, it seems exactly what I was looking for, thanks again07:06
ikoniano porlbme07:06
meatiethen listen to ikonia HelmedHorror07:06
meatiei prefer reading manuals07:06
redrum187EriC^^: I am rebooted in ubuntu with terminal open. Could you share the sudo parted -l command again?07:06
meatieor references myself07:06
megamansecwelp, seems the motherboard is the computer. it won't boot at all now07:07
megamansectime to backup all the data just incase, too.07:07
EriC^^sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999907:07
Waddupis there a reason for files being corrupted on a running drive07:08
agent_whiteHelmedHorror: Good point. To get to the "how to install", from wiki.ubuntu.com, you have to click "Community", then go down to "Help and Information" to see links... personally, I found googling "ubuntu wiki installation" and clicking the first link, to be most helpful.07:08
wileeeWaddup, Any number of reasons. Context?07:09
agent_whiteHelmedHorror: I guess, most wikis assume you have a specific task in mind and are able to search the specific text in a wiki via an outside search engine (ie - google).07:09
redrum187Alright, before I type it in, I just want to understand exactly what I'm doing.  "sudo" just runs the current command with administrator privileges correct? and wht does parted do?07:09
wileeeredrum187, It just shows the partitioning setup. This channel is peer reviewed.07:10
Waddupwell i have an ubuntu server 14.04 with 4 3TB WD Red setup in raid 0+1 and separated 1tb Regular for OS Drive.07:10
agent_whiteredrum187: `man parted` - "parted is a program to manipulate disk partitions..."07:10
Waddupnow everytime i save from it after i close the file i save it becomes corrupted07:10
Ben64redrum187:    GNU Parted - a partition manipulation program, | is a pipe, puts the output to..... "netcat" which sends information to.... termbin.com:9999 which is a pastebin service07:10
agent_whiteredrum187: ... "parted... -l... lists partition layout on all block devices"07:10
JamesanaruHello, Im Running Elementary OS Freya. (Based off Ubuntu) And I need some help please!07:11
agent_white^^ what Ben64 said.07:11
ikoniaJamesanaru: we don't support Elementary here, sorry07:11
agent_whiteJamesanaru: We don't support elementary. Join their channel!07:11
ikoniaJamesanaru: there is an elementary support channel, try that07:11
redrum187wileee:  thank you, guys, I just wanted to be a little cautious using acommand I don't know.  I'll do it now07:11
Ben64redrum187: good practice07:11
agent_white#elementary is the channel07:11
JamesanaruExcuse me? What is the channel?07:11
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agent_whiteJamesanaru: #elementary07:11
ObrienDaveredrum187, there's enough people here that if someone gives you really BAD information, others will correct it07:11
JamesanaruHave a nice day!07:11
agent_whiteJamesanaru: You too!07:11
agent_whiteObrienDave: You described open-source in one line! ;P07:12
dontpassgohey, is there a way i can mount an iso file to use a bootable drive for a different hdd?07:12
Ben64it never hurts to ask what a command will do07:12
ObrienDaveagent_white, that's how i roll ;P07:12
wileeedontpassgo, with grub yes07:12
dontpassgook great thanks07:12
redrum187EriC^^: alright, ran successfully.  Returned: http://termbin.com/7bct07:12
Ben64many people get into trouble here by blindly following commands on random websites07:12
wileeedontpassgo, YOu want a link?07:12
dontpassgowileee: that would be great, thanks07:13
Waddupwileee : well i have an ubuntu server 14.04 with 4 3TB WD Red setup in raid 0+1 and separated 1tb Regular for OS Drive. now everytime i save from it after i close the file i save it becomes corrupted07:13
JamesanaruOh, I do understand you dont support Elementary OS here. But, It does have to do with the Linux GRUB.07:13
EriC^^redrum187: ok, my guess is that you have a hardcoded bios07:13
wileeedontpassgo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot  enjoy I use the grml portion07:14
agent_whiteJamesanaru: Instead, just ask your issue!07:14
EriC^^redrum187: you can switch the efi files so it boots ubuntu instead of windows and you get grub and boot whatever07:14
dontpassgowileee: thanks so much :D have a great morning/day07:14
ikoniaagent_white: no don't07:14
ikoniawe don't support elementary here07:14
agent_whiteikonia: Oh... okey :(07:14
ikoniaJamesanaru: use the elementary suport channel please.07:14
EriC^^redrum187: which laptop is it?07:14
wileeeWaddup, I have never done raid but that info is helpful.07:14
JamesanaruOh, sorry.07:14
ikoniano problem07:14
wileeedontpassgo, you as well.07:15
agent_whiteikonia: Sorry about that. Noted that I will forward folks in the future.07:15
ikoniaagent_white: not a problem07:15
Waddupwilee:i was thinking maybe one of the drives have bad sector or maybe all of em does07:15
wileeeWaddup, okay, I don't guess is all, and under that scenario have no idea how to check and be sure.07:19
Waddupyeah thanks anyway07:19
redrum187EriC^^:  I had to step away for a moment, I should have said afk07:19
wileeeI'm protecting you, from me. ;)07:19
EriC^^redrum187: np07:19
redrum187I have an asus W8.107:19
EriC^^redrum187: ok07:19
EriC^^redrum187: type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt07:20
EriC^^let's get this party started..07:20
redrum187Ugh, I sound so computer illiterate, but what other info do you need as far as "which laptop is it?"07:20
redrum187alright, I know what most of that does, lol07:20
redrum187alright, it spun my hardrive and finished successfully07:20
ObrienDaveredrum187, not to worry, we ALL started at sometime :)07:21
EriC^^ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi07:21
redrum187I thought sda1 was already mounted? or do I not understand that command?07:21
EriC^^sda1 is the efi partition07:22
EriC^^you're in the live usb right?07:22
redrum187that is correct07:22
EriC^^ok, it shouldn't be mounted07:23
redrum187alright "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi" complete07:23
redrum187(unrelated) when do you have to type your password to execute a command?  is that with su?  Maybe I don't understand the difference between su and sudo.07:24
redrum187or does su raise the current user to admin level?07:24
ObrienDave!root | redrum187 not exactly the right answer07:27
ubotturedrum187 not exactly the right answer: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:27
megamansecalright so I was wrong. It was just one ramstick preventing it from even starting. Still can't get past the ramdisk though. The livecd doesn't work, and just does the same thing. It reboots when loading ramdisk.07:27
winter_lilly246I know this may sound weird but, I am on Elementary OS. Thing is, I want to switch from Elementary OS to Ubuntu. But, I have no clue how to.07:27
vezoi'm on a live cd07:27
redrum187thank you ubottu07:27
xanguaInstall Ubuntu the same way you installed elementary winter_lilly24607:28
ObrienDaveLOL ubottu is a bot ;P07:28
vezowhat do u mean a bot?07:28
vezook but how????07:29
winter_lilly246Is there a risk of rendering my computer useless?07:29
ObrienDaveas in, computer script07:29
ikoniawinter_lilly246: no07:29
vezook ok07:29
EriC^^redrum187: ok07:29
ikoniawinter_lilly246: it's just an install the same as elemntary07:29
megamansecah yep, i fixed it..07:29
EriC^^redrum187: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done07:29
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EriC^^type the whole line07:29
megamansecit was the anti-surge protection on the motherboard.07:29
megamansectime to get the multimeter out..07:30
redrum187ObrienDave: I know he (it?) is a bot, I'm being silly07:30
ObrienDavedoing a good job ;P07:30
redrum187"for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"  Yes?07:31
vezothanks for the info07:31
EriC^^redrum187: yes07:31
redrum187What does all of that do?07:32
EriC^^mount binds the virtual filesystems07:32
ObrienDavemounts devices in numerical order07:32
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ObrienDavethat to ^^^ ;P07:33
redrum187Oh, because when I ran parted it was 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,6?07:33
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EriC^^redrum187: it mounts /dev /dev/pts etc. to your /mnt/dev dirs07:34
EriC^^so you can chroot and use grub later in the chroot07:34
ARX828Hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I don't want to be rude but, How do I get back to windows without Grub won't load error?07:34
redrum187is chroot change root?  Just a shot in the dark, guess07:34
ikoniaARX828: as in you want to remove ubuntu totally, or you just want to boot into windows07:34
ARX828well, get into windows.07:35
redrum187haha, ok and what does "mount binds the virtual filesystems" mean? :/07:35
ARX828Because, I didn't actually dual boot windows and Ubuntu.07:35
wileeeARX828, this a wubi07:35
ikoniaARX828: ? then why is grub on your system07:35
EriC^^/dev /dev/pts are the virtual filesystems redrum18707:36
ObrienDavewubi needs to die a slow, painful death :S07:36
ARX828I don't know.. Because I just factory reset my computer with the hope of getting back to windows but that error came up and I can't remove it.07:36
ARX828my computer is basically useless.07:37
ARX828However, I can get into the BIOS.07:37
ikoniaARX828: have you had ubuntu on this system ?07:37
ARX828The one I am talking to you on?07:38
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ikoniaARX828: stop for a moment07:38
ikoniaARX828: why have you come into this channel using 3 different usernames in the past 10 minutes with 3 differnet problems07:38
ikoniawhy are you pretending to be 3 different people07:38
ikoniashall we stop messing around please07:38
ARX828Because they are my three problems07:38
EriC^^redrum187: did you run the command?07:39
ikoniaARX828: lets stop messing around please - you have zero ubuntu problems, please stop using this channel07:39
ARX828but I'm not lying07:39
EriC^^redrum187: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt07:39
redrum187"for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"   This one?  Yes I ran that.07:39
ARX828That is what is happening07:39
Guest6132how to copy multiple directories into single directory from terminal07:39
redrum187alright, it spun the hard drive and now  it shows root@ubuntu:07:40
ikoniawhois ARX82807:40
EriC^^redrum187: ok, type efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999907:40
redrum187I got an error message07:41
redrum187could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'07:41
EriC^^what happens if you type efibootmgr?07:41
redrum187WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and then4 more lines07:42
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redrum187efibootmgr is currently not installed07:42
EriC^^type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi07:43
blackflowHello. Anyone else noticed Firefox going haywire lately? Often crashes and HTML5 videos play audio only until you reload the page a few times and then it's okay. Ubuntu 15.04 and FF 3907:43
redrum187I installed efibootmgr with apt-get install efibootmgr07:43
luxigoIn a fresh and updated 14.04.2 I cannot login using gnome-shell session after changing the language to thai, although I can login with unity..  I dont see anything in Xorg.0.log or syslog07:44
redrum187do you still want me to run ls -l /sys/firmware/efi07:44
EriC^^yeah, does it exist?07:45
redrum187oh, that's just list files, yeah?07:45
redrum187the ls command printed a table07:45
EriC^^did it list the files or say no such file?07:46
redrum187total 007:46
redrum187some r--r-- stuff07:46
redrum187then columns of root root07:46
redrum187config table, efivars, fw_vendor, runtime...07:46
EriC^^type efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999907:47
pwpHi, I want to find out how I can navigate a dialog window with keyboard. Where can I paste a picture of the dialog in question?07:47
Comstockimgur ?07:47
redrum187-.- it still says the program efibootmgr is currently not installed.07:48
ObrienDavepwp, TAB to change fields (buttons) space bar to select07:48
luxigowhere can I find a session log beside Xorg.0.log ?07:48
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pwpObrienDave: doesn't seem to work with the dialog in question... That 's why I asked where to post image.07:48
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com07:49
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:49
redrum187"You will have to enable the component called 'main' (Newline) Use netcat.07:51
ObrienDave!pastebin | pwp07:51
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EriC^^redrum187: does efibootmgr alone work?07:52
luxigoHi ! I changed the user interface language in Ubuntu 14.04.2, then I cannot login with gnome (screen is black, I can see the cursor, and after a few minutes i go back to login screen)07:52
redrum187warning root could not open file...07:52
cfhowlettluxigo, do you actually have that language installed?  because if not ...07:52
EriC^^redrum187: ok, type exit07:53
redrum187back to user ubuntu07:53
luxigocfhowlett: yeah it happened after I have been requested to install the required files and accepted (it happened yesterday yet and I tried to  resinstalled from scratch)07:53
EriC^^ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999907:53
EriC^^if it's not installed install it07:53
cfhowlettluxigo, "tried to" ... what happened?07:54
luxigotried to reinstall from scratch07:54
cfhowlettbetter yet luxigo, login to the current language and verify that you have actually go the second language onboard.07:54
redrum187I thought I already did.  ill do it again07:54
luxigoi just added thai at top in "language and text" system settings panel07:54
EriC^^redrum187: it was in the chroot07:54
redrum187should I do apt-get install efibootmgr?07:54
cfhowlettluxigo, that doesn't mean it's installed.  verify.07:55
luxigousing "install / remove language " button07:55
EriC^^redrum187: yeah, if it's not installed run sudo apt-get install efibootmgr07:55
redrum187ok, done.07:55
EriC^^ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999907:55
redrum187It prints "Use netcat."07:56
EriC^^redrum187: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us07:56
luxigoit is installed since I finally can login with unitiy (after having tried startx in vt after which i only see the background image and the cursor , trying to start unitfy from login screen before ended with black screen and cursor too)07:57
luxigostill, I only reach black screen and cursor when trying to login with gnome07:58
EriC^^redrum187: does sudo efibootmgr -v work by itself?07:58
luxigois there a logfile somewhere for gnome login ?07:58
redrum187it accepted the command but nothing happened/no prints07:58
EriC^^redrum187: did you use sudo?07:59
redrum187yes 'sudo efibootmgr -v"07:59
EriC^^that's odd07:59
redrum187is it because I"m booted from a livedisk?07:59
EriC^^anyways, type sudo chroot /mnt08:00
redrum187sudo chroot /mnt08:00
redrum187oops, terminal08:00
EriC^^ok, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}08:01
EriC^^ok, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}08:02
EriC^^ok, are you using secureboot?08:03
redrum187I do not think so, but then again, I had never heard of that until today...08:03
EriC^^ok, anyways type ls -R /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 999908:04
EriC^^just want to make sure it's backed up correctly08:04
EriC^^redrum187: something is off08:07
EriC^^you don't have an ubuntu efi dir08:07
EriC^^type dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 999908:07
EriC^^you have legacy grub installed08:09
EriC^^type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 999908:09
EriC^^there's an efi entry in fstab though08:10
EriC^^must be some weird bug or something08:10
redrum187My new personal record, broken on day 1...08:10
dtscodehey guys... whenever I try to ssh into a server, it just hangs. this is the output: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/S3kzBaLvP3uHimNb4g73/08:11
EriC^^redrum187: bug with the installer i think08:11
redrum187Oh!  There was an error message08:11
redrum187It said something about a CD drive though, but my CD drive bay is empty though08:11
luxigoStill in 14.04.2 on thinkpad x220, when I logout or when I switch to a vt, the screen is dimmed, I have to press the brightness change key one time (up or down) or write to /sys/.../brightness and it's restored (looks like a known bug)08:11
EriC^^anyways type apt-get purge grub-common grub2-common grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc grub-pc-bin08:11
redrum187So I ignored it....  oops?08:11
EriC^^redrum187: nah i think that's irrelevant08:12
redrum187the following packages wil be REMOVED: (previously mentioned packages)08:13
redrum187After this operation 33.7 mb disk space will be freed. continue?08:13
redrum187A GUI appeared, Do you want to have all GRUB 2 files removed from /boot/grub?  This will make the system unbootable unless another bootloader is installed.08:14
redrum187Press yes?08:14
redrum187removing ubiquity* and grub* stuff08:15
redrum187processed mime-support triggers, done08:15
EriC^^i feel like a dejavu of some sort, but anyways go on08:16
takuanI have a weird issue with ubuntu: I can't resolve a few addresses08:16
redrum187it's complete08:16
takuanI can resolve them fine on my phone via wifi but not on my two computers running ubuntu08:16
takuanneither in my browser or on the command line08:16
EriC^^redrum187: ok, type apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed08:16
redrum187unable to locate package grub-efi-amd64-signed08:17
takuancould this have to do with dnsmasq?08:18
EriC^^!info grub-efi-amd64-signed08:18
ubottuPackage grub-efi-amd64-signed does not exist in vivid08:18
EriC^^redrum187: you're using 15.04?08:18
redrum187no, 14.04 LTS08:18
EriC^^redrum187: type apt-cache search grub-efi | nc termbin.com 999908:18
EriC^^odd, i have that package08:19
redrum187!info event not found08:19
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EriC^^redrum187: that's just for ubottu08:19
redrum187oh. got it.08:19
ObrienDavethe bot ;p08:19
redrum187I don't know how to directly interact with it08:20
mflaigtakuan, yes it could have to do with dnsmasq, but also with 100 other things ... :)08:20
redrum187apt-cache... printed "use ntcat"08:20
luxigocfhowlett, after having installed every single package matching "thai", still a black screen with mouse cursor when trying to login with gnome.08:20
EriC^^redrum187: ok type apt-get install pastebinit08:20
cfhowlett!th | luxigo,08:20
ubottuluxigo,: Please type /join  #ubuntu-th for Ubuntu in Thailand.08:20
EriC^^then apt-cache search grub-efi | pastebinit08:20
luxigohaha one user :-)08:21
redrum187unable to locate package pastbinit08:21
luxigoand I dont speak thai :-)08:21
EriC^^redrum187: missed an e08:21
redrum187oops, I didn't miss the e in terminal though "install pastebinit"08:21
mflaigtakuan, first of all dnsmasq does have negative cache. So if you resolved NXDOMAIN (does not exist), then setup the name, then resolve again. dnsmasq is going to cache that NXDOMAIN for a while. IMHO around 5 Minutes.08:22
EriC^^redrum187: ok, i think something else is messed up with your sources.list08:22
EriC^^maybe that's why you got an error earlier08:22
EriC^^redrum187: hold on08:22
mflaigtakuan, also it could be possible that your ubuntu does IPv6, but your phone dies not. Are they using the same network?08:22
redrum187can it be updated/replaced or...?  I don't know if it even works that way08:23
EriC^^type apt-cache search grub-efi |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us08:23
EriC^^!info grub-efi-amd64-signed trusty08:23
ubottuPackage grub-efi-amd64-signed does not exist in trusty08:23
redrum187nothing showed up on the shortlink it served08:24
EriC^^redrum187: try apt-cache search grub-efi08:24
redrum187nothing happened08:25
EriC^^try apt-cache search grub bootloader08:26
redrum187nothing. :/08:26
EriC^^redrum187: ok, type cat /etc/apt/sources.list |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us08:27
EriC^^redrum187: you never booted into this installation?08:28
EriC^^i'd reinstall at this point08:28
EriC^^cause who knows what else might be wrong, also checksum the .iso08:28
redrum187Welp. I guess if the shoe fits.  Or however that sayinggoes.08:28
redrum187Is there anything I need to do differently since the hdd is already partitioned?08:29
EriC^^yes, do not choose to reinstall ubuntu in the installer, it'll wipe the hdd08:29
EriC^^choose the Something else option08:29
EriC^^select the mountpoints and reinstall08:30
redrum187what does select the mountpoints mean08:30
TomyLoboUnpacking ruby1.9.1-dev ( ... <--- is that ruby 1.9.1 or 1.9.3?08:30
EriC^^like "/" is your root08:30
tpanmajiaTomyLobo: youthink?08:30
TomyLobotpanmajia, i have no idea :)08:31
tpanmajiaTomyLobo: what do you think is the version?08:31
TomyLobotpanmajia, i have no idea :)08:32
* tpanmajia sighs08:32
TomyLobobut i just noticed i'm using RVM on this box, so i removed the package08:32
luxigocfhowlett, running startx from the console, I have only the background screen but I can press ctrl-alt-t to launch a terminal ...  From gdm only the cursor (no background image) and ctrl-alt-t not working08:32
tpanmajiait's 1.9.308:32
redrum187can I do the checksum right now while I'm livebooted?08:32
TomyLobotpanmajia, so then why is the package called 1.9.1?08:32
redrum187before switching backt o windows?08:32
EriC^^redrum187: yeah, type md5sum /path/to/iso08:33
EriC^^redrum187: where is the iso located?08:33
tpanmajiaTomyLobo: idk08:33
redrum187damn, let me look for a moment...08:33
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TomyLoboif i install a linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic, i dont expect that to be 3.21 either08:33
tpanmajiaTomyLobo: the version of your linux-image- is 3.2108:34
tpanmajiaTomyLobo: what distro are you using?08:34
TomyLobotpanmajia, ubuntu trusty08:34
alina-emergencyhow to track server files, that were been changed recently in specific folder recursively?08:35
TomyLoboalina-emergency, git :)08:35
EriC^^redrum187: ok, is C:\ the 200gb partition?08:35
TomyLobothere's also etckeeper08:35
TomyLoboif you're talking about /etc08:35
roundfateralina-emergency: <alina-emergency> ur my nigga08:35
roundfater<alina-emergency> ahahahah08:35
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redrum187NVM it is here: /media/ubuntu/OS/Users/myusername/Downloads08:35
tpanmajia!ops | roundfater08:35
ubotturoundfater: please see above08:35
cfhowlettroundfater, in other words, stop your nonsense.08:36
alina-emergencyTomyLobo, git?08:36
roundfatertpanmajia: you better tell alina-emergency that's what he told me08:36
TomyLoboalina-emergency, are you asking what git is or how it applies to your situation?08:36
EriC^^redrum187: ok08:37
alina-emergencyTomyLobo, nah, i have a webproject in htdocs, so i want to see all last changes in that folder that were ever made, some saving logs08:37
EriC^^those apt-cache search grub bootloader commands were being run from the chroot right? root#?08:37
TomyLoboalina-emergency, definitely a use-case for git, then08:38
TomyLobogit is a distributed version control system08:38
redrum187yes, I"m still root@ubuntu:/#08:38
TomyLobodistributed meaning that you dont need a central server to do version control08:39
alina-emergencyhmmmm ok thanks TomyLobo i am looking at it right now, let me try it, thanks for hlep08:39
redrum187it said filepath/filename.iso no such file ordirectory08:39
redrum187I copied the path from the file browser...08:40
TomyLoboalina-emergency, you can essentially just do "git init" and then "git add" all your files and commit everything. redo the last steps every time you change stuff08:40
EriC^^redrum187: i think the /media/ubuntu is on the live session accessing the windows08:40
EriC^^redrum187: use it in another terminal that's in the live session08:40
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases08:40
EriC^^check the above to see if it matches up08:40
TomyLoboalina-emergency, you can transfer all your version history to another machine by pushing it there or fetching it from the original machine08:41
alina-emergencyTomyLobo, the problem is, i am working with someone right now, and everytime i make changes in .php files he knows about it and get mess with that code, i need t know how he is doing this, and this is definitely not git, so i need to stop this, as he mess with the files and break something all the time08:41
TomyLoboalina-emergency, hehe08:42
TomyLobowell, if he breaks stuff, dont give him direct access08:42
redrum187I found the md5 fromthat table, but It says no such file or directory when I md5sum the file08:42
TomyLobomake him go through version control08:42
alina-emergencyTomyLobo, its his server, i am working on his files08:42
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TomyLoboso, git08:43
TomyLoboyou can just commit whenever you change something08:43
TomyLoboand diff whenever something breaks, to see wtf he changed :)08:43
TomyLobothen you can either revert his changes or fix and commit them08:44
EriC^^redrum187: md5 it from the live session, not the chroot08:44
EriC^^you got the file from the filemanager right?08:44
alina-emergencyhmmmm yes true, but anyways i would still like to know how he check files, maybe he do this with ls command?08:44
redrum187I copied the filepath and name, yes08:44
TomyLoboyou mean you're making changes he didnt approve? :)08:44
EriC^^redrum187: ok, open a new terminal and type it there08:45
alina-emergencyno, i make changes in files, and he go there and mess with it, i dont know, he try to do some syntax approvement or read what i changed there, and each time he delete or modify lines there, so this is annoying08:45
alina-emergencyi think he just do an output of ls of last modified files by date or something like this08:46
TomyLoboalina-emergency, hmm, you could obfuscate, of course :P08:46
redrum187wow, ok, it worked there... weird.... lemme fetch te numbers and compare.08:47
TomyLobobut as for means of him being able to tell what you changed08:47
TomyLoboi could imagine he has a copy the entire folder somewhere else and just diffs it08:47
redrum187md5 sums match :/08:48
TomyLobogit, svn, owncloud, dropbox would be some things he might be using08:48
EriC^^redrum187: ok, from the root# type cat /etc/apt/sources.list |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us08:48
EriC^^just to see if you have that file and the sources are right08:48
EriC^^redrum187: usb could still be damaged btw08:49
TomyLoboor an inotify hook that mails him, or or or08:49
EriC^^redrum187: you can try running an integrity check from the menu maybe08:49
EriC^^you're missing the sources.list08:50
EriC^^anyways, reinstall see how it goes08:50
EriC^^try a different usb maybe08:50
redrum187will do08:50
redrum187le sigh08:51
redrum187thanks for sticking with me all night08:52
redrum187I really appreciate the support08:52
EriC^^no problem08:52
redrum187should I redownload the iso, or just burn it to a different usb drive?08:53
EriC^^just burn to a different drive08:53
EriC^^when you press try ubuntu, open a terminal and type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi so you know if you booted in uefi correctly08:54
EriC^^then install08:54
redrum187cool, thanks08:54
mike802hello everyone!09:06
gtyuppppmike802: what09:08
mike802is there a problem here buddy09:08
jackhumI have installed burg in my ubuntu09:11
jackhumBut the problem is sudo burg-emu shows burg correctly09:11
jackhumBut in real boot up . grub is being displayed09:11
gtyuppppjackhum: so09:12
TomyLobomike802, jackhum be advised that gtyupppp has been talking down on people who join for a while09:14
mike802i liked it09:15
fionehow do I update the security09:15
cfhowlettjackhum, fione sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to do some serious renewal09:16
TomyLobofione, you mean how to install the security updates the system notifies you about? or something else?09:16
fioneTomyLobo: I mean newest update like windows update for security09:16
TomyLobofione, that's what i'm saying :)09:17
TomyLoborun sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade09:17
TomyLobothat's for any ubuntu. desktop ubuntus have their update notifiers if you like something with a gui09:18
TomyLobokubuntu hass muon updater, for instance09:18
TomyLoboi dont use the regular gnome ubuntu so i dont know what that has instead09:18
BlackDalekDoes anyone know how to used miniupnp to open port for nicotine+ ?09:28
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BlackDalekduring configuration of miniupnpd, when it asks "listening IP address" is that the IP address of my router (192.168.x.x) or the IP address of my laptop (192.168.x.x) or the internet IP of my router (118.208.x.x) ?09:33
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TomyLoboBlackDalek, is that miniupnp thing with authentication?09:35
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BlackDalekTomyLobo, ??? no clue. I only found out it existed about 5 mins ago. Installed it and it is running some kind of configuration. Apparently it will fix my router config so that I can use nicotine.09:36
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TomyLoboBlackDalek, but do you know what upnp is?09:37
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TomyLoboit usually allows unauthenticated clients on your local network to establish a port forward to itself09:37
TomyLoboimo, it's not something you want :)09:38
mike802glad that's over09:38
mike802i got a pretty unpleasant message from that person09:38
BlackDalekTomyLobo, ok... so do you have any idea why nicotine still says my ports are closed?09:38
TomyLoboBlackDalek, probably because it doesnt use upnp?09:39
TomyLobojust forward the port manually09:39
jackcomapt-get install open-vm-tools-lts-trusty <—— i must excute this command?09:39
TomyLobojackcom, i dont know. who said you must?09:39
jackcomTomyLobo: web site09:40
BlackDalekTomyLobo, I am trying to figure out manual port forwarding. I thought I already had it set up,, but it does not seem to work :(09:40
TomyLobojackcom, can you be more precise?09:41
jackcomapt-get install open-vm-tools-lts-trusty  <—— what is this command?09:41
TomyLoboBlackDalek, you can verify using wireshark09:41
TomyLobojackcom, it installs a package called "open-vm-tools-lts-trusty"09:41
sauvinlastlog mindchild09:42
jackcomthen i must install it to ubuntu?09:42
TomyLobojackcom, VMWare is not part of ubuntu. ask your vendor09:42
jackcomok last question09:42
jackcomhow can i know that open-vm-tools-lts-trusty is installed already?09:43
TomyLobodpkg -s packagename09:43
jackcomwhat is dpkg?09:43
TomyLoboman dpkg09:43
jackcomi see09:44
BlackDalekthe port forwarding guides for my router at portforward.com are woefully out of date.. none of the screenshots or menu items even match :(09:47
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TomyLobotry google then09:48
Nokajior youtube09:50
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BotchlaBHow frequent are kernel updates, really? I'm on 14.04 LTS. How common is it for them to completely ruin the system? I've heard horror stories about it.09:52
jackcomTomyLobo: what is it?09:53
jackcomY or I  : install the package maintainer's version09:53
jackcomi don’t know maintainer’s version.09:53
cfhowlettBotchlaB, possible + rare.09:53
BotchlaBcfhowlett, I see.09:53
TomyLobojackcom, dude, read the manuals instead of asking us everything the system asks you09:53
BotchlaBcfhowlett, reason I ask is, everyone tells me to backup your important files before a kernel update, heh.09:53
TomyLoboif the manuals dont help, google09:54
cfhowlettBotchlaB, common sense that is ...09:54
jackcom:( i see09:54
SkyriderDoes anyone know a good stopforumspam (IP BAN) alternative?09:54
BotchlaBcfhowlett: Yes, but it *specifically* singled out kernel updates, as opposed to any other kind of updates, as worthy of taking into account backups before applying them. That being said, yes, I do frequently back up my system, kernel updates or not.09:55
cfhowlettBotchlaB, it's not like you MUST take the kernel upgrades ...09:55
mike802are you trying to write your own forum?09:55
BotchlaBcfhowlett: True.09:55
mike802usually the mods have good judgement09:55
brainwashmany kernel updates are security relevant09:56
newMetawhat kind of support does ubuntu 14.04 LTS offers?09:57
cfhowlettnewMeta, Long Term Support09:57
cfhowlett!LTS | newMeta09:57
ubottunewMeta: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)09:57
NinjablasterSkyrider u could write a simple bot for that09:58
BotchlaBbrainwash: That's interesting.09:58
newMetaI know ubottu,, define  supported os'es09:58
cfhowlettnewMeta, 12.04, 14.04, 15.04 are currently supported09:58
newMetawhat do you mean by supported,  cfhowleft?09:59
cfhowlettnewMeta, updates, upgrades, packages available.10:00
cfhowlettnewMeta, you know, the USUAL "support" options10:00
newMetaok, but is it really necessary to upgrade if i'm happy with my current ubuntu performance?10:00
cfhowlettnewMeta, what is your current version?10:00
newMeta14.04.01 LTS10:01
TomyLobonewMeta, keep in mind that security steadily degrades10:01
TomyLoboif a new bug is uncovered, your system will be more vulnerable than before10:01
cfhowlettnewMeta, LTS only releases will save you a load of heartache.  stick with 14.04 if you like.10:01
newMetano one has ever hacked my computer, so I don't know what you are talking about,tomylobo10:01
BotchlaBnewMeta: No-one may have ever hacked your computer -- not yet, anyway. It's always wise to stay updated security-wise.10:02
TomyLoboso if you consider security as an aspect of "performance", there is that10:02
TomyLobonewMeta, 1. not that you know of 2. not yet10:02
mike802security doesn't just cover hacking10:02
mike802security also covers minor "annoyances"10:02
cfhowlettnewMeta, you can stick with 14.04 and STILL grab the latest security updates.  suggest you keep 14.04 until 16.04.1 rolls around10:03
TomyLoboit also covers running shit off the 'net'10:03
BotchlaBcfhowlett: THat was my plan, too -- go from LTS to LTS. I was going to ask if many people did this, heh.10:03
newMetaok cfhowleft10:03
cfhowlettBotchlaB, I don't know the number but ... I be ONE10:03
BotchlaBHehe, cool.10:03
TomyLoboyeah, LTS to LTS is kinda the only option right now10:04
TomyLobosince they shortened the support lifetimes of the versions between the LTS releases10:04
BotchlaBI see.10:04
TomyLoboi was fortunate to unknowingly grab the first release with the new support lifetime10:05
cfhowlett5 years support should be enough.  "should"10:05
TomyLobohad to update twice to get to an LTS and now it's not really running well anymore10:06
TomyLobosomeone here told me updating 13.04->13.10->14.04 isnt even supported10:06
bekksIt is.10:06
TomyLoboupdating twice is supported?10:06
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | TomyLobo, but clean install probably better10:06
ubottuTomyLobo, but clean install probably better: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:06
bekksTomyLobo: I've seen people in here with "updated" systems since 7.x10:07
TomyLobobtw, is there a way to keep /home and reinstall the rest of the system from packages? assuming i dont have a separate /home partition10:08
cfhowlettTomyLobo, don't format the /home and make a separate /home10:08
ubottuYour home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving10:08
TomyLobocfhowlett, moving /home... nah10:09
TomyLoboi'll get a new machine soon anyway, i'll do it properly there :)10:09
TomyLobohl_joker, you forgot /join10:09
hl_joker@tomylobo thanx , new here10:10
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nikithahi ..how to make vmdk file to ghost .gho file ?  want to make guest os as primary os10:15
cfhowlettnikitha, ask the vmware channel10:16
bekksnikitha: Besides what cfhowlett said, there is no way.10:16
NectarIs it possible to install Ubuntu on an external harddrive, boot it and save changes? my ssd is running low on space...10:17
bekksNectar: Thats possible. But more targetting, free up space.10:18
EriC^^Nectar: yeah10:18
EriC^^Nectar: you can put your /home on a drive and "/" on another if you want more space10:18
bekksOR just move your large files to the external drive.10:19
rainbowwarriorhello , is anyone here using ubuntu on an msi ge60 please ? I plan on buying one on 4th August and noticed it has the killer gb lan for wired, but for wireless it has ieee 802.11 and rf standard ac , will ubuntu have problems with the wifi card please ?10:19
rainbowwarriorsorry meant  * msi ge60 apache *10:19
Nectarbekks, i only have an ssd internally, no hdd10:19
bekksrainbowwarrior: The wifi standard 802.11 does not tell anything about the used wifi chipset, so your question cannot be answered.10:19
ob1modwhat do you think about system76 ?10:19
cfhowlettob1mod, ask #ubuntu-offtopic10:20
TomyLoborainbowwarrior, ask them to try a live cd on that machine before buying it10:20
dylan_hello guys im running ubuntu 12.04 and like it was smooth btw this in virtualbox and now i see it running slow a bit how can i fix10:20
bekksNectar: If you dont have an external hdd, your question is pointless. Just free up space then.10:20
cfhowlettdylan_, virtualbox will always be slower than a native install.  time to dualboot perhaps??10:20
TomyLobodylan_, check the load averages (especially the first) in and out of the box10:20
MMukherjeeI have a Ubuntu 14.04 VPS with Plesk 12 and fail2ban. Although I turned on the SSH jail to block malicious users who fails root access, fail2ban doesn't do anything and don't block these ip address10:20
Nectarbekks: i have external hardrive. just no hardrives internally10:21
dylan_like today it was smooth as and now its running slow10:21
dylan_i gave it a 1gig of ram10:21
dylan_and like 10gig hard disk10:21
MMukherjeeAny ideas what I can do?10:21
rainbowwarriorbekks,  true , TomyLobo  will do and thank you , even if ubuntu does not support the wifi card on the msi ge60 i have a spare wi-fi adapator that works in ubuntu anyway :)10:21
dylan_and how do i check load averages etc??10:21
TomyLobodylan_, htop, top10:22
dylan_command line?10:22
TomyLobodylan_, but if you didnt give it enough memory, maybe it's swapping now. check vmstat10:22
TomyLobothe si and so columns10:22
dylan_how do i check it do i do it via terminal or system settings10:23
TomyLoboterminal of course10:23
dylan_thank you ill check now10:23
dylan_this is what it said10:23
dylan_procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----10:23
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TomyLobopastebin if it's more than 2 lines10:24
TomyLoboit's swapping a little10:24
dylan_is that bad?10:24
dylan_like cause im a noob10:24
TomyLobowell it doesnt swap unless it's lacking memory10:24
cfhowlettdylan_, 1gb of ram?  of course it'll swap!10:24
TomyLobocfhowlett, depends on what he does10:25
bekksdylan_: Pastebing "free -m" please.10:25
baash05Macbook pro wifi question.. Is firmware-b43 still the best way to get wifi10:25
dylan_yeah i gave it a gig of ram right i installed this a day ago fresh install went smooth has10:25
bekksbaash05: Depends on the exact wifi chipset you have.10:25
TomyLobomy trusty vagrant vm takes like 44 MB if i shutdown the nonessential services10:25
bekksdylan_: 1G is - pretty low.10:25
dylan_well m laptop is windows 8.1 and it has 4gig of ram10:25
bekksTomyLobo: I strongly doubt it will even boot with less than 64M.10:25
dylan_that is allocated to10:25
dylan_and plus even though my laptop is 64bit i ran ubuntu 32bit10:26
cfhowlettdylan_, you might xubuntu or lubuntu faster.   to test: sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4       then logout, choose an alternate session, login10:26
TomyLobobekks, maybe it needs a little more during boot :)10:26
bekksdylan_: How much RAM does your laptop have? And how much RAM does your VM have?10:26
dylan_quick question if i swap to unity 2d10:26
TomyLobohe said that already10:26
dylan_does that make it any better??10:26
dylan_cause im running 12.0410:26
dylan_not latest cause if i run latest it is so slow10:26
baash05bekks  How do I find out whats best to install?10:27
TomyLoboanything that takes a lot of ram is bad if you dont have a lot of ram10:27
bekksdylan_: Use 14.04 and some other desktop environment rather than Unity.10:27
dylan_but when i use 14.04 it is so slow seriously10:27
bekksbaash05: Take a look at lspci and lsusb to find out your wifi chipset.10:27
dylan_like i setup everything and then its like boom its slow10:27
bekksdylan_: 14.04 is faster than 12.04 :) Just dont use Unity.10:27
dylan_i think i got rid of the iso10:28
dylan_:/ looks like gotta redownlaod10:28
cfhowlettdylan_, I already told you how to fix ...10:28
bekksdylan_: So download xubuntu or lubuntu.10:28
dylan_:) thanks for your support10:28
cfhowlettbekks, not necessary.  just install the DE10:28
dylan_and also how can i remove like packages that are old etc10:29
NectarIf im installing ubuntu to an external hdd is it as simple as connecting the external hdd and putting in the disk, running the installation? Like normal?10:29
bekkscfhowlett: Yeah.10:29
bekksNectar: No need for converting anything.10:29
dylan_cause like im currently removing stuff i dont need like useless junk10:29
bekksNectar: Just free up space :)10:29
cfhowlettdylan_, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove10:29
Nectarbekks: are you saying to free up space on the ssd or external hd?10:32
sakalypsehey guys10:32
dylan_hey also is it possible to install ubuntu on like a usb right but make the usb bootable so that virtualbox can read it like if its a hard drive?10:32
EriC^^dylan_: yeah10:33
dylan_cause i was going to experiment10:33
dylan_but i just didnt know how10:33
EriC^^dylan_: you can install to it as usual, then make a rawdisk image that points to the usb and load it in virtualbox10:33
bekksNectar: On the disk that is low on space.10:33
dylan_uh oh i tried to remove a screen acessibly tool10:33
dylan_and it just said it failed to remove10:34
dylan_anyways eric how would i do that10:34
bekksdylan_: Which tool and what is "it", and whats the exact message you got?10:34
Nectarbekks: 26 gigs free out of 11910:34
BotchlaBOK, this is odd.10:34
bekksNectar: Thats plenty of free space.10:34
cfhowlettdylan_, easier/saner approach: stop trying to remove integrated pieces.  download the .mini iso and install exactly/only what you want.10:34
BotchlaBMy mouse cursor just doubled.10:34
cfhowlett!mini | dylan_10:35
ubottudylan_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:35
BotchlaBThere's two mouse cursors, one on the left, one on the right.10:35
EriC^^dylan_: do you have grub installed right now? or maybe 2 usbs you can use?10:35
BotchlaBThe one on the left works.10:35
dylan_i got like heaps of usbs but none have grub10:35
BotchlaBThey're like 2 cm's apart on my screen.10:35
BotchlaBHow do I make it go back to one?10:35
dylan_cause i was gonna load a copy of ubuntu on a usb then make virtualbox read it10:35
dylan_as if it was a hard drive10:35
dylan_i tried the minimal before wasnt sastisfied that it had no GUI10:36
dylan_anyways ill grab a usb brb10:36
Nectarif i partition my ssd for a new ubuntu install; is possible (easy?) to recomve the partition so that it belongs to windows again?10:36
EriC^^dylan_: no, make 1 live usb, and put another usb in, boot the live usb, and in the installer choose Something else, then install to the usb and have the bootloader install to the usb too10:36
EriC^^dylan_: loading the installer usb in virtualbox won't do anything but load the installer, it's basically the same as just picking an .iso file to boot in virtualbox10:37
bekksNectar: I still dont see why you want to reinstall everything. :)10:37
MMukherjeeI have a Ubuntu 14.04 VPS with Plesk 12 and fail2ban. Although I turned on the SSH jail to block malicious users who fails root access, fail2ban doesn't do anything and don't block these ip address10:37
dylan_i grabbed a usb10:37
MMukherjeeAny ideas?10:37
dylan_okay so what do i have to do?10:38
bekksEriC^^: Which is wrong, since virtualbox cannot boot from USB.10:38
dylan_sucks how virtualbox cant boot from usb10:38
EriC^^bekks: yeah, i meant if he had a way for virtualbox to read the usb as the hdd or something10:38
Nectarbekks: reinstall? i want to dual boot windows with ubuntu10:38
EriC^^i think it's possible, never tried it though10:38
bekksdylan_: Boot it from an iso file. No need for that language.10:38
dylan_hey quick question if i was to install minimal right how would i get a gui10:38
bekksEriC^^: you can create a raw vmdk pointing to ausb device which you created before, from the iso file. Or just boot the iso file.10:39
bekksdylan_: By installing a desktop environment.10:39
dylan_is there a good one in particular that doesnt use unity?10:39
dylan_and basically lightweight?10:39
EriC^^bekks: yeah i know, he wants to install to a usb and boot it from virtualbox10:39
BotchlaBdylan_: Try maybe a flavor like Xubuntu or Lubuntu?10:39
dylan_ok let me download the mini iso10:40
dylan_and stuff10:40
EriC^^i was telling him booting the usb in virtualbox (the live installer) won't help for this goal10:40
dylan_then ill see what i can do10:40
popeykvm can boot from usb10:40
dylan_how many ram should i give the mini ?10:41
EriC^^dylan_: virtualbox can boot it, using the rawdisk image, but he has to install to the usb as usual first10:41
dylan_like i want it as lightweight as possible10:41
brainwashMMukherjee: join #fail2ban10:41
EriC^^i've not had luck installing to a usb using the rawdisk image, it hung midway10:41
dylan_brb im going to give my virtual machine a reboot needs to config updates10:42
cfhowlett!cn | xianghui10:43
ubottuxianghui: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:43
Joshunis it possible to install a lowlatency kernel but leave the generic one as default?10:48
JoshunI only want to use the realtime one for audio stuff10:48
Joshunso not by default10:48
JoshunEriC how? can't seem to find out how10:51
dylan_im back10:52
dylan_just swapped from unity to unity 2d10:52
EriC^^install it then check /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see which one is first, edit /etc/default/grub accordingly10:52
EriC^^then update-grub if you edit it10:52
JoshunEriC ok I will try that, that isn't ideal though as if the kernel is updated you'd have to do it again10:53
Joshunthanks though10:53
EriC^^Joshun: if the first one is the generic then i guess it won't matter, you can boot the lowlatency from grub10:56
cfhowlettor you could take the .5 seconds to choose the alternate kernel.  Just sayin ...10:58
ubuntu879I was trying to reinstall Windows 7 with DVD on sony laptop and there were three partitions to choose from one of 18GB (system) another of 500GB (system) and last one was around 105GB (primary). I rushed thinking how I need space for fresh OS and formatted 18GB partition and 500GB partition then tried to install windows on 500GB partition and it didn't worked. I need to get files back from 500GB parttiotn and 18 GB partition.I th11:03
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EriC^^ubuntu879: the 18gb partition is most likely the recovery partition11:03
EriC^^ubuntu879: you only had win7 installed?11:03
ubuntu879I need live OS with Testdisk on usb. I don't know for sure there were some other files too.11:04
EriC^^ubuntu879: type sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe11:04
EriC^^then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk11:05
ubuntu879I don't know how to enable wire connection or wireless connection on xubuntu.11:06
EriC^^download the testdisk .deb11:06
EriC^^or use ethernet11:06
baash05Hey.. I'm attempting to install ubuntu.. when I did it (with the option to install extras) it froze11:07
baash05Is that freez expected?11:08
EriC^^ubuntu879: or download the source files and compile it11:08
ubuntu879normally when I boot xubuntu from usb and connect cable it works automatically but this time it won't. Dunno why.  I'll download testdisk on usb and plug it then.11:08
ubuntu879EriC^^, thanks for quick reply11:11
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Nokajimore out of curiosity than the inconvenience I ask the following, maybe there is a lesson to be learned here ... why does "eject -T" work only sometimes but " eject /dev/sr0" & "eject -t /dev/sr011:14
Nokajiopps , ... why do the latter work every time?11:14
Nokajithe former seems to be memory related, eg it works immediately after the latter have been used11:15
joshua__Is there a command line utility for viewing man pages of programs not installed?11:15
EriC^^Nokaji: cause it thinks it's still open and it's trying to close it when it's already closed11:15
EriC^^joshua__: you can check linux.die.net11:16
NokajiEriC^^:  I don't think so, the former is a toggle command, it opens and closes11:16
EriC^^Nokaji: exactly11:16
EriC^^if it's open it sends a close command, if it's closed an open command11:17
Nokajiyes, so why does it not work all the time? - was my question11:17
EriC^^cause it must have a bug or incompatibility and it thinks it's open when it's closed11:17
Nokajiokay, well i swopped over writers recently, no idea if it worked fine before, never used it then11:18
Nokajistill traces of my old writer in the system11:19
EriC^^i'm just guessing based on what seems logical, you can strace the command to see what's going on exactly11:19
NokajiI see, it should work, so process of 'illumination' (I might copyright that)11:20
ubuntu879so what's best way to recover data from formatted hdd partitions?11:20
EriC^^write the old partitions back11:21
EriC^^it usually works..11:21
joshua__say I ran "sl" for the first time and got "'sl' is currently not installed" and I want to find out what it does without using a browser or installing sl(or downloading the full package to extract the man like debman).11:21
EriC^^joshua__: apt-cache show sl , has a description of the package11:22
EriC^^joshua__: i don't know if you could download the man page separately11:22
ioriahe can use curl with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/man6/sl.6.html11:25
joshua__cool. apt-cache prg | grep Description-en11:25
joshua__that meets my goal EriC^^ thanks11:26
EriC^^joshua__: ok, it won't work for all packages though, just so you know11:27
ubuntu879How do I enable connection for ethernet on xubuntu?11:28
ubuntu879it's xubuntu 12.1011:30
bekks!12.10 | ubuntu87911:30
ubottuubuntu879: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on May 16th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/quantal11:30
ubuntu879ok I should get another version11:31
cfhowlettubuntu879, download the 14.04 and install.  12.10 is dead, unsupported and we can't help with that.11:31
EriC^^joshua__: i mean some commands are a part of a package and they don't mention the commands in the description11:35
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EriC^^joshua__: if you don't have a gui and you really need to check a command maybe you could use a terminal browser to go to manpages.ubuntu.com or linux.die.net11:36
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sireorionhey guys if i do an do-release-upgrade on my server... will my TS3 server stop workin? ow will it work like before?11:38
bekkssireorion: You would have to reboot your server after running the upgrade and check functionality. That would include checking yout ts3-server.11:39
sireorionbekks: so in worst case i have to reinstall it?11:40
OerHekssireorion, if you wonder does it keep working, backup your data11:40
bekkssireorion: Yes.11:40
baash05_Keep loosing my connection11:44
baash05_When installing.. if I pick to install extras. it freezes.. Is this normal?11:45
OerHeksbaash05_, not if it does not carry on with installation11:46
EriC^^baash05_: checksum the .iso11:46
baash05_It seemed totally frozen for a while.11:47
OerHeksSome parts can take huge processorpower11:47
OerHeksoh a while, so it continues?11:47
baash05_If I turn off the extras.. it installs fine.11:47
cfhowlettbaash05_, suggest you do normal install and grab the extras in post-install11:48
baash05_Yeah, did that..11:48
baash05_all good.. but still troubling that I had to. .11:49
EriC^^did you checksum the .iso?11:49
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joshua__EriC^^: also kinda a solution for me is to use bropages11:53
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treybulhello - I'm trying to remove a program but getting an error. When i type "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xephyr "  I get "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)" & "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:54
treybulcan someone help with above?11:54
cfhowlett!aptlock | treybul11:55
ubottutreybul: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:55
OerHekstreybul, that error occurs when you have softwarecenter open, and remove things in terminal11:55
OerHeksonly one instance to apt-get is allowed11:55
treybuloh ok - i do have the software centre open11:56
treybuli'll close it and try again11:56
treybulIt worked thanks11:56
OerHekshave fun :-)11:56
BluesKajHiyas all11:57
OerHekshi BluesKaj11:57
treybulthe reason I installed xephyr is because I wanted a seperate window that displayed other windows(apps) within that window. I couldn't get it to work. Can someone recommend an alternative?11:58
treybulI'm wondering if you have "Nvidia X server Settings", in the configuration can I assign different monitors to different desktop sessions?12:01
treybulif that makes sense??12:02
BluesKajhi OerHeks12:02
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NectarIve installed and configured an Ubuntu on my laptop. How can i copy it to my desktop?12:09
EriC^^Nectar: uefi?12:10
MonkeyDust!clone | Nectar12:10
ubottuNectar: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate12:10
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AbuDharHey :D12:13
AbuDharJust wanted to say that I have been using Ubuntu for a long time now and on a laptop that is 5 years old. Still running smoothly :)12:14
AbuDharWith Windows my laptop would have been dead now :)12:18
guest190bad new now. I get 15.04(12:18
AbuDharI remember how slow Windows 8.1 was running on it.12:18
daftykinsAbuDhar: i hope you're running LTS :P12:20
AbuDharis 14.10 LTS?12:21
guest19015.04 lts?12:22
AbuDharor was it 14.04?12:22
MonkeyDustAbuDhar  cat /etc/issue12:22
AbuDharI am running ... 2 sec12:22
daftykinsAbuDhar: 14.10 is dead already, EOL. 14.04 is LTS :)12:23
AbuDhar14.04.2 LTS12:23
AbuDharit says here :D12:23
AbuDharso I have the LTS12:23
MonkeyDustAbuDhar  good, stick to it12:24
AbuDharI will.12:24
guest190ok... need some light and stable os for learning c and asm. what to use?12:24
kiloreuxyou can use arch12:25
kiloreuxa very good OS for learning12:25
MonkeyDustguest190  general linux questions in ##linux12:25
AbuDharArch? :D12:25
AbuDharor Fedora maybe.12:26
kiloreuxyes i  am however sticking to ubuntu12:26
kiloreuxyet i have tried most of OS distributions12:26
kiloreuxBut Arch has some learning curve12:27
AbuDharYou can use any dist :)12:27
kiloreuxso you might find it difficult at the beginning if you are not experienced with linux12:28
guest190ubuntu so convertable12:28
plastica friend installed Ubuntu -his first Linux-, apparently in command line mode only; what are the steps to install gnome/kde and run X by default?12:28
daftykinssudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; for KDE12:28
daftykinsplastic: must've installed mini.iso or server12:29
plasticauch, I'll ask him; thank you daftykins12:29
guest190kde/gnome/xfce/lxde )))  cli only12:29
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AbuDharwell he can search for packages :) how was it? sudo apt-cache search <package> ? :D12:30
pwuertzHi, my new mainboard boots from uefi only and I'm having trouble converting my ubuntu 15.04 installation to uefi boot. I managed to boot from usb, convert from MBR to GPT and ran grub-efi install from the live system.12:30
daftykinsguest190: you're typing nonsensical rubbish, stop please :)12:30
plasticok, he has those 4 options; thanks guest19012:30
junioralguem fala br ae12:30
daftykinsAbuDhar: no sudo, no12:30
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.12:30
pwuertzThe system kinf of boots, but it stops at a grub shell. Any idea what to do from here on?12:30
daftykinspwuertz: sounds like you skipped a stage. boot the live session again and fix it12:31
AbuDharplastic, there are many more DEs than that :P12:31
pwuertzdaftykins: any up tp date guide you can recommend?12:31
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daftykins!efi | pwuertz12:31
ubottupwuertz: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:31
plasticyes, AbuDhar, there are a lot :)12:32
guest190why we say about desktop? I ask about system12:33
kiloreuxWhat do you think about Unity vs Gnome people ?12:33
kiloreuxi found that Unity is much resources consuming then Gnome12:33
daftykinsguest190: ask a proper question12:33
meatiekiloreux, please dont start that debate.12:33
kiloreuxhahaha okay Meatie :P12:33
guest190unity sack and new gnome so slow12:33
daftykinskiloreux: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, support questions only in here.12:33
AbuDharI don't like Unity!12:33
daftykins_drop it_ now12:34
kiloreuxokay people my first time here , forgive me :P12:34
meatie24 hour cease-fire plz12:34
plasticin case he installed mini.iso, do you recommend to start the full installation again or apt-get would be enough? he's new to Linux12:35
guest190... need os for learning/programming on c and asm. arduino and android supported...12:35
daftykinsplastic: as long as it's online, just apt-get install a DE and it'll be the same as desktop.12:36
plasticnice; thanks daftykins12:36
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kiloreuxguest190 ubuntu , fedora , centos , debian , kali  and much more , all of them satisfy your needs .12:36
daftykinsplastic: but perhaps you should ask how your friend made such a massive mistake12:36
plasticI'll do it for sure :)12:36
Guest17572salve a volte il mio browser rimane in loop, come posso terminare il processo?12:36
daftykinsguest190: this is an ubuntu channel, your question is more welcome in ##linux12:36
MonkeyDustguest190  how is your questin ubuntu related?12:36
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:37
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meatieguest190, FC22 or stripped down debian/ubuntu.12:37
plastiche's italian12:37
plasticI mean Guest2521512:37
daftykinsi never was too hot on spotting languages12:37
guest190when kali stand desktop stable version?12:37
meatiei do all those things and more and i'm happy with my toolsets on here12:37
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guest190who use fedora?12:37
MonkeyDustguest190  none of your questions are ubuntu related12:38
meatiebetween fbsd/fc22/ubuntu.12:38
OerHeksguest190, why?12:38
guest190i don't learn wm or web. so why centos?12:38
meatiecentos is not going to be a dev. environment12:38
Ninjablasterthis is weird, guest19012:38
OerHeksguest190, why centos?12:38
meatiedon't take that as advice12:38
OerHeksguest190 do you know you are in ubuntu support irc?12:39
guest190on debian it will be deadline incase supporting and updating12:39
MonkeyDustguest190  you're in the wrong channel12:39
daftykinsguest190: please join ##linux and stop talking about other distributions in here12:39
meatiego with FC2212:39
ren0v0Hi, how would one go about making ubuntu generate a thumbnail cache on a SMB share or NFS mount ?12:39
daftykinsmeatie: stop enabling it please.12:39
meatiei told him ubuntu also.12:39
meatieyou know people come here for others to change their minds.12:39
daftykinswhoop-de-doo Basil.12:40
daftykinsjust let the conversation change channel like it should...12:40
meatieso we are forbidden from speaking about other distros?12:40
daftykinsthe topic is better suited to the main ##linux channel12:40
daftykinswe keep it clear for SUPPORT here.12:41
OerHeksmeatie, it is offtopic12:41
daftykinsif you've got a problem with that, you too can find pastures greener.12:41
Ninjablasteragree with daftykins... :)12:41
guest190i type about "what version of ubuntu will be nice for learning c, asm, andriod, arduino. so stable and so light"12:41
guest190I am on true channel12:41
daftykinsguest190: yes now leave and ask again in ##linux please.12:41
daftykinsfor the THIRD time12:41
meatiethats not allowed here12:41
ren0v0Is it possible you can stop arguing with this guy and maybe consider my genuine question ?12:42
meatieyou mentioned others, or something.12:42
meatiebut just join #linux12:42
meatiethey'll help12:42
daftykinsren0v0: can't help you hence not replying. and don't use that tone.12:42
kiloreux_you are wasting people's time guest19012:42
meatieno he isn't lmao12:43
ren0v0daftykins, seriously, lol. Don't talk to me like that.12:43
daftykinsren0v0: too late.12:43
OerHeksren0v0, thumbnails over samba share? that gives a huge datatraffic, and slows samba further as it is slow already12:43
ren0v0damn internet hardmen12:43
ren0v0OerHeks, everytime i change DIR it takes an age loading thumbs, is it not possible to do this once and have a cache?12:43
daftykinsren0v0: it's volunteer run in here, don't act so entitled.12:43
AbuDharif I ask daftykins he will help me ren0v0 :P12:44
OerHeksren0v0, yes, told you, huge datatraffic, and i don't know about cache, it gets wiped here after use12:44
daftykinsAbuDhar: don't get involved.12:44
ren0v0OerHeks, hmm, any idea what would remove the cache? nautilus?12:44
Kira9204guest190: ubuntu variation does nog matter, if you want something lightweight go for xfce12:45
ren0v0daftykins, maybe try going outside, things are different in the real world12:45
meatieapp_armor could be restricting it12:45
meatiebecause it might be running under a diff permission12:45
Kira9204guest190: just code12:45
meatiethats a wild guess, happened locally not on a share.12:45
meatieaudit your logs and see.12:45
AbuDharren0v0, be careful :P you will be banned soon hehe12:46
ren0v0AbuDhar, i don't care for being told how to act when i'm not acting out of line, its just an ego thing, move on12:47
guest190and why my gnome 15.04 so slow on i5?12:47
joshua__not slow for me12:47
kiloreux_not slow for me either12:47
meatieyou could in asm/c... get to debugging buddy :)12:47
ren0v0OerHeks, i would look into samba and thumbnail caching but this also applies to NFS12:48
kiloreux_please stop with these subjective questions12:48
meatiekiloreux_, you need to chill.12:48
AbuDharwhat's the new stuff in 15.04?12:48
meatieits a valid question12:48
AbuDharwhat has improved?12:48
OerHeksren0v0, sure, creating thumbnails gives huge datatrafffic, disable it if you want speed12:48
ioriajoshua__, i made a little script to download manpages... if you are still interested12:49
Kira9204guest190: have you installed gpu drivers?12:49
Kira9204 /preopetary nvidia/amd12:49
kiloreux_hahaha i am naturally serious @meatie :P12:49
AbuDharproprietary Kira9204 :D12:49
MonkeyDustAbuDhar  any review can tell you 'what's new'12:49
guest190bubuntu downl center use all cpu and memory on 10 loadings ... wtf?12:49
meatiesudo aa-complain usr.bin.totem-previewers12:49
meatiethat will allow thumbs.12:49
meatieif apparmor is the one blocking them.12:50
ren0v0OerHeks, yes i've gone down this route before but this doesn't help with how i want to use the remote share. Are you not aware of any server side caching mechanism? why woudn't a thumb.db be created? or am i misinterpreting how that works12:50
joshua__ircnode0: gist/pastebin?12:50
AbuDharI am guessing that SystemD is default on the new Ubuntu version :)12:50
OerHeksren0v0, use a mediaplayer like kodi(formar xbmc) or a photo app for that, they can hold the cache.12:50
meatieAbuDhar, you can use systemd or anything your heart desires.12:50
Kira9204AbuDhar: haha, yeah, i always have trouble spelling that12:50
meatieupstart works just fine also.12:50
ren0v0OerHeks, thats a nice suggestion, i'll give that a go for my laptop, however that wouldn't help with multiple devices, shame there isn't a mechanism for this that would be server-side12:51
ioriajoshua__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11979432/     give it a look ... small  but it works :þ12:51
OerHeksmaybe there is, i haven't found it..12:52
ren0v0OerHeks, real shame, would be nice to pre-generate thumbnails12:53
meatiea process creates the thumbnails.12:53
meatieobviously something is blocking it12:53
meatieubuntu channel, so I gave you the name of the process which handles it.12:54
meatiedmesg also helps12:54
AbuDharmeatie, yeah it probably does.. which one boots faster? Upstart or systemd?12:54
meatiesudo systemd-analyze time12:54
meatieStartup finished in 3.643s (firmware) + 10.185s (loader) + 6.716s (kernel)12:54
meatieuser-space takes about 45 seconds due to this being a dev box running giant DB's12:55
meatiebut entirely, its fast enough.12:55
AbuDharthat's not that fast :P12:56
meatie19 seconds?12:56
AbuDharmy Ubuntu box boots faster I think.12:56
meatieyeah, I have my own kernel modules I wrote12:56
meatieand many other things just someone like I would need.12:57
AbuDharokay :) cool..12:57
treybulif you have dual monitors is it possible to display a different DE on each display?12:57
treybulif you have dual monitors is it possible to display a different DE on each monitor*?12:57
meatieAbuDhar, do systemd-analyze time12:57
meatiesee what it says12:57
deliadi'm getting my usb souncard working with alsa thru jack in lmms12:58
meatietreybul, DE?12:58
deliadhow i can use it in the whole system as default sound device?12:58
lordievadertreybul: Yes, run two X instances.12:58
treybulDE = desktop environment. For example, i want lxde on one monitor, and kde on the other12:58
treybul@ meatie12:58
guest190scrafl! chanel for noob's12:58
AbuDharmeatie, I don't think I have it12:58
AbuDharI am not using 15.0412:59
meatietreybul, ... KVM switch12:59
treybullordievader, what's the easiest way to do this? I have looked into xeyphr but no luck12:59
meatieor virtualization12:59
meatiethat'd be funny.12:59
treybulKVM switch?13:00
meatiemeaning two machines13:00
meatiei wouldnt waste my time configuring one machine for that13:00
AbuDharKernel Virtual Machine? :D13:00
meatiesounds like a lot of work13:00
lordievadertreybul: You probably want to modify your lightdm script to start two instances of lightdm in a separate X server with a different xorg config.13:00
treybulI have nvidia x server  - can I do something via that?13:00
AbuDharyou probably can :)13:01
guest190treybul alt+f7 and poocorn for me13:01
treybulsounds complicated lordievader13:02
lordievadertreybul: Nvidia X server is a driver (and bad naming on nVidia's part). You want a custom config of X.13:02
treybulany app that helps automate that?13:02
AbuDharlol I didn't know that command guest190 :D13:02
lordievadertreybul: Of course, it is non-standard ;)13:02
meatieour advice is to stop looking at your DE13:02
meatieand use cli13:02
AbuDhartreybul, write your own app13:02
lordievaderNo need to write an app, just configure X.13:03
AbuDharWrite a script that configures it :)13:03
AbuDharand then sell it.13:03
treybulis there a script or something?13:03
AbuDhartreybul, I think you have to edit xorg.. Why does X still exist btw? :P13:04
guest190man x13:04
meatiei'm curous what you get out of doing that... seperate DE on each13:04
meatienever saw that before.13:04
lordievaderAbuDhar: Because there ain't a real alternative yet.13:04
AbuDharlordievader, I heard something about some newcomers? where did they go?13:05
meatienot to poke fun, but cause it sound silly13:05
lordievadertreybul: To be honest, I don't think it is worth it. You get into lots of problems.13:05
lordievaderAbuDhar: I don't really frequent this channel.13:05
treybulyes I agree. It's probably easier to use a virtual machine13:05
meatiei could set that up easily but13:06
meatiethere's no way I am doing that.13:06
AbuDharHave you maybe heard of wayland?13:06
orion203Can I use GSLB by Amazon Route 53 ?13:07
treybulhow about this: is there an app that creates a blank window where i can drag and drop other program windows into it?13:07
lordievadertreybul: Or properly configure your DE.13:07
meatieGSLB with what setup?13:07
meatiesmall setup?13:07
AbuDhartreybul, use a workspace? :P13:08
ubuntu879booted xubuntu 14.04 from usb on laptop but lan and wlan are disconnected. how do i enable them?13:08
guest190ifconfig eth0 up13:08
treybulcan a workspace be used within a window?13:08
guest190ifconfig wlan up13:08
AbuDharunfortunately I don't think Wayland supports Nvidia yet?13:08
orion203meatie : I have hosted server datacenter in different region.13:08
meatieyeah GSLB is a poor solution imo13:09
meatieif you are using AWS why not deal with their solutions.13:09
orion203meatie, but I need failover13:09
meatieamazon has better approaches13:10
orion203meatie, but I don't have any instance in aws13:10
ubuntu879guest190, first command accepted but looks like still not connected13:10
orion203I want failover like GSLB.13:10
binarydepthI have a weird problem. In Ubuntu GNOME. In the program GUI the letter "l" doesn't show. Right now when I write this message I can't see the letter "l" in the message13:11
binarydepthIn the menus I can't see the "l" in "Help" it display "He p" instead13:11
orion203if I don't aws instance, I can't use Route 53 failover feature?13:11
meatiehaproxy could be a simple solution.13:12
meatieand yes i believe so13:12
meatie(never tried without their services)13:12
ubuntu879okay ipconfig wlan up did the job.13:12
meatieis your services just webservers?13:13
AbuDharbinarydepth, check your graphics drivers13:13
AbuDharI am using GNOME and I can see l fine13:13
orion203meatie: Yes, it is13:13
guest190ubuntu879 look's like you not get ip/ net don't sand?13:13
orion203http protocol only13:13
meatiethen you will be fine with a simple solution.13:13
meatiewon't be hard to setup.13:13
ubuntu879guest190, ?13:14
orion203meatie: but my heardware server set with L413:14
orion203L4 set vip, hardware server run behind it.13:14
binarydepthAbuDhar : I used Gnome TWeak to switch the font and it's fixed but when I reboot the problem is there again. My Graphic driver is Ironlake Mobile13:14
guest190ubuntu879, type ifconfig13:15
orion203They located in different region such as A zone and B zone13:15
ubuntu879guest 190, command not found13:16
guest190cable pluget in? wifi router or other switched on?13:16
meatieorion203, ...13:16
meatiewhat we use is http://aws.amazon.com/route53/13:16
meatieand we are happy13:16
orion203I want to set Active - Active load balancing between A zone and B zone.13:16
AbuDharbinarydepth, and you have updated all of your drivers? as well as the OS? are you running 14.04?13:16
meatieAmazon Route 53 is a highly available and scalable cloud Domain Name System (DNS) web service.13:17
meatieand it allows for services outside of AWS.13:17
guest190nice) 14.04 forget ifconfig13:17
orion203meatie: Oh~ good..13:17
orion203but, How to set up?13:17
meatieit's easy13:17
ubuntu879guest190, wlan switch on and cable plugged in but only wlan0 worked not eth013:18
meatielogin and go through their little wizard.13:18
lordievaderguest190, ubuntu879: You'd want to use 'ip' instead of 'ifconfig', ifconfig is deprecated.13:18
orion203meatie: That's the problem on me...13:18
guest190typing ifconfig or ipconfig13:18
meatiethe problem being what? it's self explanatory.13:19
meatieit'll ask you which are your endpoints13:19
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lordievaderIf you want more reasons not to use ifconfig: http://inai.de/2008/02/1913:19
meatieread the docs you'll get it.13:19
guest190lordievader, ipconfig on dos* not in 14.04 as I know13:19
orion203meatie: ok, I will more try it.13:19
lordievaderguest190: 'ipconfig' is a Windows command.13:20
meatiei wouldn't steer you the wrong way orion20313:20
meatieshould be fine.13:20
guest190lordievader, as I say)13:20
ubuntu879i'll try to download testdisk13:20
orion203meatie: ok, Thanks a lot.13:21
meatienp you're welcome13:21
guest190hey noob's! how to build own cloud?13:24
ntzI don't have ubuntu here to test it, does ubu support a booting to specific runlevel from kernel command line ? eg if you append in grub at kernel command line 3, it should boot to runlevel 313:24
meatiesimple to setup13:25
guest190own        ____          cloud13:25
guest190private cloud13:25
Hanracan someone help me work through a grub issue?13:25
meatientz as far as i recall that would not be an issue.13:25
Waddupi have an ubuntu server 14.04 with 4 3TB WD Red setup in raid 0+1 and separated 1tb Regular for OS Drive. now everytime i save from it after i close the file i save it becomes corrupted. is it because probably my drives have bad sector or because there is somethign wrong with my setup?13:26
ntzmeatie: ok, thanks ... si does it work ?13:26
MonkeyDustWaddup  try #ubuntu-server13:26
linux|newbcould I be reminded of the channel for less rigid ubuntu conversation?13:26
meatiei could load a vm and try but i'm sure you'd get it done faster :P13:26
Waddupoh alright thanks13:26
daftykinsntz: runlevels aren't used in ubuntu13:27
ntzmeatie: I don;t have ubu here, sorry ... only seeking for an answer13:27
ntzdaftykins: I know, but the most of distros still emulate them via systemd.targets13:28
ubuntu879Okay, so i downloaded and installed TestDisk on xubuntu 14.04. Can somebody tell me how to recover data from formatted partitions using TestDisk?13:28
daftykinsntz: you can replace 'quiet splash' with 'text' to boot without X?13:28
ntzfor instance it works here in my suse, if I append 3 at kernel cmdline, it boots to some non-graphical target13:28
daftykinsi doubt it to be honest13:29
ntzdaftykins: # who -r13:29
ntz         run-level 5  2015-07-26 11:1213:29
ntz^^ in my systemd enabled suse13:29
MonkeyDustubuntu879  scroll down http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step13:29
daftykinsntz: i'm talking about with ubuntu - i'm not doubting your claims of your own setup13:29
ntzdaftykins: same with el7 (eg rhel 7.x)13:29
ntzah, sorry13:30
OerHeksntz, ubuntu is limited in runlevels AFAIK13:30
ubuntu879MonkeyDust, ty13:31
ntzfrom what I know, ubu still supports runlevels somehow .... init 0 and init 6 works13:31
ubuntu879i am out13:31
meatiequick scan of google..13:31
meatielooks like it will work13:31
meatiei'm not reading every result13:31
ntzyeah, I was asking only for a confirmation13:31
meatiecant hurty to try13:31
baash05Hey guys..13:33
baash05I tried to run sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source13:34
linux|newbanyone got a recommendation for a clean (modern and fresh) html5/css IDE (please try and reserve suggestions for vi)13:34
baash05it froze my box for a long long time13:34
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator13:34
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code13:34
baash05I eventually pulled the power and formatted.. Now I'm here to ask if anyone has gotten past this?13:35
meatiehtml/css... sublime text?13:35
daftykinsbaash05: afaik that's only one approach to grabbing broadcom drivers13:35
linux|newbcheers :)13:36
baash05It froze my system at the initramfs update13:36
meatieanother runner up would be eclipse13:36
baash05I'm currently running the same install via software center13:37
ubottuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya (Hardy or earlier) - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+ - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/13:37
baash05I'm not frozen, but it seems stalled.13:37
Ice_StrikeDoes ubuntu come with  remotely app by defult? Or I have to install something like VNC?13:37
balance2Does anyone know if there are fully working drivers for the thinkpad pro dock ? (on a thinkpad yoga)13:37
Ice_StrikeVNC Server13:37
OerHeksIce_Strike, yes, there is a remote desktop service standard. not enabled.13:38
meatieit has built-in VNC capabilities13:38
MonkeyDustlinux|newb  theres also this ... the templates don't work, tho ... http://bluegriffon.org/13:38
Ice_StrikeOerHeks Where do I find this?13:38
Ice_StrikeI am using version 1213:39
OerHeksIce_Strike, type 'remote" in search ?13:39
plasticdaftykins: the massive mistake of my friend was that he didn't see the "Not now, take me to the download ›", so he thought he had to pay and googled alternatives; mistery solved :)13:40
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baash05daftykins: would it make sense that that froze a new install?13:41
daftykinsplastic: ah-har13:41
linux|newbMonkeyDust: cheers13:41
daftykinsbaash05: depends on the device13:41
baash05mac book pro13:41
baash05Bloody thing is so much trouble.13:41
Ice_StrikeOerHeks That work. Thanks bro.13:42
daftykinsbaash05: ah i was about to say 'Apple, all bets are off'13:42
daftykinsbaash05: was there a wiki page for your model?13:42
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages13:43
baash05Nope.. all wikis are too old13:43
baash05I love that ubottu.. useless.13:43
OerHeksbaash05, so your mbp is too new?13:43
AndroidHackeranyone know a way to prevent usb drives from automounting.. ive already tried the dconf editor method but its not working.. it still automounts and opens13:44
baash05Yep.. the wiki only goes up to version 10..13:44
baash05There are empy pages for 1113:44
baash05but I'm on 1213:44
meatiein Ubuntu you need to goto System Settings13:44
meatiethen Details13:45
meatiethen Removable media13:45
baash05Crap bit is.. fedora works out of the box.13:45
MonkeyDustAndroidHacker  is this useful http://hardenubuntu.com/disable-services/disable-autofs/13:45
baash05I just don't like gnome313:45
meatiei just told him how.13:45
MonkeyDustbaash05  then don't use it13:45
baash05The other flavors don't support the dpi.. I tried messing with the settings.13:46
Matt_teniguys does librecalc run laggy for anyone else here?13:46
AndroidHackermeatie, haha that seem to have worked thanks13:46
baash05Ubuntu (all flavours) and f22gnome work well with the screen.13:47
AndroidHackerMonkeyDust, thanks too13:47
meatiethats why I told ya about it. ur welcome.13:47
baash05But ubuntu can't connect to wifi.13:47
daftykinsbaash05: you read the alternatives on the broadcom page i take it?13:47
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:47
meatieif Ubuntu couldnt connect to wireless... it'd be.. never used.13:48
baash05daftykins: Nope..13:48
daftykinsoh dear.13:48
baash05mate.. I mean it don't connect to wifi on mac book pro.. I'm running mate on two other boxes.. all good.13:48
baash05daftykins: what other options I got?13:49
OerHeksfedora does not give you BCM drivers OOTB too, baash0513:49
daftykinsbaash05: the ones in the link above. i'm not reading it for you...13:49
baash05Oh.. from ubottu.. cool  I'd not expect it.13:49
baash05Thanks.. I'll dig into it.13:50
baash05DerHeks: fedora22 ran right out of the box.. fully supported mac hardware.13:51
baash05well except for the fn key.13:51
meatiefc22 is a beast.13:52
meatiei have a FC2 book sitting on my shelf. I feel old.13:52
daftykinsmeatie: i'm detecting this off topic theme from you ongoing :P13:55
meatie<baash05> +DerHeks: fedora22 ran right out of the box.. fully supported mac hardware.13:55
meatiehope you're joking. heh.13:56
HanraHi, I'm having a grub issue. Eric^^, I've been sent your way. Do you have time to help and has daftykins told you what's going on?13:58
EriC^^Hanra: yeah sure13:58
EriC^^Hanra: do you get a grub rescue or grub> ?13:58
Hanragrub rescue>13:59
EriC^^oh ok13:59
EriC^^what happened before that? how'd this happen?13:59
cloudcell_Hello everyone! I am switching from Windows to linux and I am struggling with mouse pointer behavior. Is there a way to make a mouse pointer behave as it does on Windows? (i.e. pixels of the pointer must become inverted on underlying pixels of the same color). The reason I need this is that I often cannot select text properly using the thick text selection13:59
cloudcell_mouse pointers.13:59
HanraEric^^ I dual boot Windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04 on this laptop. Recent windows update happened14:00
EriC^^i see14:00
EriC^^ok, type ls in grub14:00
EriC^^Hanra: do you use uefi?14:01
HanraSo we've got (hd0) with gpts from 1 to 8 and cd014:01
Hanraand tbh I'm not sure whether I use uefi but quite possibly14:01
Hanra(hd0,6) is the one which is legible14:01
EriC^^yeah i think so too14:01
Hanraset has root set to hd0,gpt514:01
Hanraand prefix to (hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub even though all the modules are in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi14:02
EriC^^ok, do you have a live .iso file somewhere in your ubuntu partition or windows?14:02
Hanrawhere would I find it in the ubuntu partition?14:02
EriC^^maybe /home/<your user>/Downloads14:03
Hanraoh, I see14:03
HanraI can still access the windows side of things, would it help for me download one?14:03
plasticcloudcell_: I don't have ubuntu, but there must be a way to change the pointer theme14:04
EriC^^hold on, we'll try first if we can boot from grub rescue14:04
linuxuz3rwhats a good voice recorder14:04
plasticcloudcell_: look in the configuration of your desktop environment14:04
Ice_Strikecd: /etc/asterisk/: Permission denied14:04
EriC^^Hanra: type configfile (hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub/grub.cfg14:05
Ice_StrikeHow to view it?14:05
Ice_StrikeI tried su root14:05
Ice_Strikethat dont work14:05
MonkeyDustlinuxuz3r  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated14:05
HanraEric^^: Unknown command 'configfile'14:05
EriC^^Hanra: ok, try insmod normal14:06
cloudcell_thanks plastic, I just can change sets of pointers but they don't behave as they do on windows14:06
HanraEric^^ error: unknown filesystem14:06
HanraEric^^ shall I set root to hd0,gpt6?14:06
EriC^^Hanra: ok, try ls (hd0,gpt5)/ what do you see?14:06
Hanraerror : unknown filesystem14:07
alimjIce_Strike: "sudo -i" (Use at your own risk) and "exit" to be back in user mode14:07
plasticcloudcell_: I don't know if you can install another theme that inverts the colors; maybe someone can tell (or google)14:07
EriC^^Hanra: ok, try ls (hd0,gpt6)/14:07
cloudcell_tried that, so far no luck, plastic14:07
HanraEric^^: That looks better.14:08
EriC^^what's in there?14:08
plasticcloudcell_: ask in the channel of that DE14:08
Hanra./ ../ lost+found/ boot/ etc/ media/ var/ bin/ ...14:08
EriC^^Hanra: ok, type ls (hd0,gpt6)/boot , do you see the initrd and vmlinuz files?14:09
Ice_Strikealimj thanks bro.14:09
HanraEric^^ : Several, vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic for example?14:09
HanraThere is an initrd and vmlinuz file in (hd0,gpt6)/ too14:10
EriC^^Hanra: ok, type set root='hd0,gpt6'14:10
EriC^^if you type ls -l14:11
EriC^^does it mention hd0,gpt6's uuid?14:11
Hanraerror: bad filename14:11
EriC^^or just ls (hd0,gpt6) ?14:11
Hanradoes it need a trailing slash?14:12
Hanraok, then I just get error: bad filename when I do ls (hd0,gpt6)14:12
Hanrawhen I do ls (hd0,gpt6)/ it lists directories but no UUID14:13
HanraI have a good guess as to what the UUID is though14:13
Hanraas in when I read the HDD from my pi I note the UUID and it matched what was in grub.cfg14:13
meatieto grab uuid14:13
meatiewas that on-topic daftykins ?14:14
EriC^^Hanra: you have it?14:14
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HanraEric^^ yes14:15
EriC^^Hanra: ok, try set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub14:15
EriC^^try insmod normal14:16
Hanraerror: file not found14:16
Hanradoes it matter that all the .mod files are in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi ?14:16
EriC^^i have them there too14:17
EriC^^try maybe insmod (hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod14:17
Hanraerror: file not found14:17
Hanrajust checking to make sure normal.mod is in there14:18
Hanrathe file is definitely there14:19
EriC^^ok, try set root=(hd0,gpt6)/boot14:19
EriC^^try insmod normal14:20
Hanraerror: file not found14:20
nonamaeHi! Is this a correct sentence? 私には夢があります。Meaning  have a dream, right?14:20
MonkeyDustHanra  what was your initial question?14:20
cfhowlettnonamae, wrong channel.14:20
EriC^^Hanra: ok, try set boot=(hd0,gpt6)/boot14:20
MonkeyDust!cn | nonamae14:20
ubottunonamae: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw14:20
EriC^^MonkeyDust: he has a grub rescue> after updating windows, can't boot a live usb as usb booting is off and bios is locked with a password14:21
HanraEric^^ : done. insmod normal still gives a file not found error14:21
cfhowlettcan't bios be unlocked by removing battery and crossing the contacts or something?14:21
nonamaeooo wrong channel, pardon, (japanese anyway)14:21
daftykinsfrom full disassemble, ja14:22
meatiebios password should be disabled if you are using uefi in some cases14:22
cfhowlett!jp | nonamae14:22
ubottunonamae: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。14:22
EriC^^Hanra: try set boot=(hd0,gpt6)14:22
Carolinhey all14:22
EriC^^sorry, i've not used grub rescue, so bare with me14:22
cfhowlett!  "bear"14:22
CarolinIs it possible to provide a list of URLs for curl/wget to download, and host it on a webpage that curl can get?14:22
CarolinSo i can have something like "http://mysite.com/allStaticFiles"14:23
HanraEric^^ No need to apologise, I really appreciate the help anyway and you sound pretty knowledgeable14:23
meatiethe first part i understand... and 'host it' ?14:23
Carolinand thats a list of files for curl/wget14:23
meatiecurl --recursive etc14:23
Carolinoh cool, how?14:23
Carolin--recursive? awesome :D14:23
CarolinThanks Meatie!14:23
HanraEric^^ : Anyway, set boot=(hd0,gpt6) and ran insmod normal again to the same error14:24
meatiefor i in $(cat sites); do14:24
meatie curl site-$i -o path14:24
meatiei dont know what you want exactly14:24
HanraEric^^ : Btw, I tried setting prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi previously and that got an error about missing symbol grub_divmod6414:25
meatieyeah i didnt add recursive14:25
meatieman curl14:25
EriC^^Hanra: did you try prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub ?14:25
meatieim tired14:25
HanraEric^^: File not found14:28
Hanraeric^^ I think I tried just prefix=/boot/grub before14:29
EriC^^Hanra: ok, try linux (hd0,gpt6)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic root=UUID=<uuid>14:31
EriC^^maybe it'll work14:31
HanraEric^^ I'll need to insmod linux first14:32
EriC^^insmod linux works?14:32
HanraIt does if I set prefix to /boot/grub/x86_64-efi but then insmod was only working for certain modules and I thought it a bit fishy14:32
EriC^^ok well try it14:33
AppAraathello, I'm trying to configure skype not to have blue flicker (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1078068) the last post on there suggests setting xorg.conf's DefaultDepth to 16. I've noticed that I didn't have a xorg.conf so I made one with only that line (bad idea lol). So now I'm looking for the best practice of generating a xorg.conf for my machine. This is my lshw -14:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1078068 in skype (Ubuntu) "Video blinking blue during incoming call" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:34
HanraEric^^: Error: premature end of file (hd0,gpt6)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic.14:35
daftykinsAppAraat: looking online for example files would be handy, the minimum content you can get away with, the better14:35
cfhowlettAppAraat, it's a bug. it's been reported.  it's not yet fixed.  are you volunteering to fix it?14:35
EriC^^Hanra: hmm14:37
HanraEric^^ sorry if this is a bit weird but why is root being set to gpt5 in the first place?14:38
EriC^^what do you mean?14:38
EriC^^where's it being set?14:38
HanraWhen I first get to this grub rescue prompt and run "set" I see that *somewhere* root has been set to gpt5 rather than gpt614:39
Hanrawhen I look in load.cfg though it looks like it's searching for the right UUID and assigning it to root (the first line of the file is search.fs_uuid <THE UUID> root)14:39
Hanraand when I look in grub.cfg it's always set root=(hd0,gpt6) rather than gpt514:40
Hanrathis may be completely unrelated and hopefully fixed by update-grub when I eventually get in14:41
AppAraatcfhowlett: I wouldn't know how or where to begin with. I think I'll go with that xorg workaround. It has also been recommended to me to install the official Intel drivers (https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads?keys=&download_type=11&download_version=All) but that would require me to rebuild them every time the kernel changed.14:41
EriC^^Hanra: actually they should be the same14:41
HanraEric^^: What should be the same?14:42
daftykinsAppAraat: don't do that. they're included in the kernel - REALLY bad idea.14:42
EriC^^Hanra: load.cfg should have gpt614:42
daftykinsAppAraat: which ubuntu version is this?14:43
AppAraatdaftykins: ah thanks for the heads-up. It's Ubuntu minimal 14.04 with Lubuntu minimal desktop.14:43
HanraEric^^ : Not search.fs_uuid <UUID> root ? Should it be set root=(hd0,gpt6) instead?14:43
AppAraatI've already tried this method - http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-fix-webcam-problem-in-skype.html - but that doesn't solve the issue.14:44
EriC^^Hanra: this is what's on my system search.fs_uuid c65ac418-c145-4a7c-b965-1308aa595d24 root hd0,gpt514:44
EriC^^set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub' on the second line, and grub uses gpt5 as my root in the grub.cfg14:44
bedehoInstalled Ubuntu after preinstalled Win8, now booting Win8 no longer works, anyone with advice?14:44
daftykinsAppAraat: which kernel?14:44
AppAraatLinux grandpc 3.13.0-61-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 11:22:15 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux14:45
HanraEric^^: set prefix=($root)/boot/grub on my side14:45
AppAraatdaftykins: it's a very old computer, but it's meant for only skype calling and minimal browsing for my grandparents14:45
HanraEric^^: Should I change my load.cfg first line to have hd0,gpt6 after "root"?14:46
EriC^^Hanra: try rebooting a bit, i googled and it seems to get out of grub rescue you should set prefix=..../boot/grub then insmod normal14:46
EriC^^Hanra: if you can somehow, grub doesn't have a text editor i think14:46
daftykinsAppAraat: ok14:46
HanraEric^^ I can take out my laptop's HDD and put it in an External HDD case then edit it using this pi14:47
EriC^^Hanra: ok, first try to reboot14:47
HanraEric^^ have rebooted, settings we set previously have gone back to gpt514:48
EriC^^what do you mean?14:49
Hanrathe "set" command gives prefix=(hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub and root=hd0,gpt514:50
Hanramore an FYI than anything, I have rebooted a few times14:50
EriC^^Hanra: ok, type set root=(hd0,gpt6)14:51
EriC^^and set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub14:51
Hanrainsmod normal still a file not found14:51
EriC^^ok, try set root=(hd0,gpt6)/boot14:51
EriC^^then insmod linux14:52
HanraEric^^ : file not found14:52
Hanrashall I do-the-thing again to make insmod get files from /boot/grub/x86_64-efi?14:53
Hanrait's annoying that insmod normal doesn't work when I do that :(14:53
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EriC^^ok give it a shot i guess14:54
Hanraok, insmod linux worked14:54
EriC^^i was trying to follow this guy's post about getting a busybox from grub rescue http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/148041/recovering-from-grub-rescue-crash14:55
Bashing-omEriC^^: Hanra 'search -f /vmlinuz ; search -f /sbin/init ' ??14:55
EriC^^ok, try just linux (hd0,gpt6)/boot/vmlinuz.. hit tab a few times pick a kernel other than 5714:55
bsvxlvЕсть кто живой?14:56
cfhowlett!ru | bsvxlv14:56
ubottubsvxlv: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:56
bsvxlvIs anybody here?14:57
cfhowlettbsvxlv, ask your ubuntu questions14:57
daftykinsyes hundreds.14:57
HanraEric^^ shall I still specify root=UUID...14:57
EriC^^Hanra: no, just trying to see if we'll get the busybox and edit load.cfg14:58
EriC^^plus we'll know if the kernel is wrong or insmod linux isn't right14:58
bsvxlvCan you tell me please, is there any irc-client that keeps msg-history in it?14:58
cfhowlettbsvxlv, hexchat does.  plus all convos are logged14:59
HanraEric^^ using -53- rather than -57- I got the same premature end of file thing14:59
EriC^^Hanra: i guess something is wrong with insmod linux14:59
EriC^^Hanra: you can't boot from cd right?15:00
HanraEric^^ Alas not15:00
bsvxlvcfhowlett, another question, if I may. How do I put in somebody's name in input-line without typing every time?15:00
HanraEric^^ but interesting, I'll try a few earlier kernels15:00
cfhowlett!tab | bsvxlv15:00
ubottubsvxlv: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.15:01
bsvxlvThanks a lot. That's much more convenient.15:01
EriC^^Hanra: try set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/usr/lib/grub15:02
EriC^^Hanra: try to append x86_64-efi at the end too15:02
EriC^^then try insmod normal15:02
HanraEric^^ Using prefix (hd0,6)/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi I get the error "symbol not found: `grub_divmod64` when I run insmod normal15:04
Hanraand I get a file not found when I use just (hd0,6)/usr/lib/grub15:04
Hanrabut I shall now try linux again justin case15:04
HanraEric^^: I get the same premature end of file error15:05
HanraI did find a post talking about linuxefi, when I used the kernel there I got some magic error instead15:05
EriC^^Hanra: do you have a different grub you can boot to?15:07
EriC^^i mean how are you booting windows, uefi menu?15:07
HanraI am selecting Windows Boot Manager from the Boot Option Menu15:08
HanraI don't know if that's the UEFI menu15:09
EriC^^ok, do you have more than one grub there?15:09
EriC^^how are you reaching your current grub?15:09
Hanracurrent grub is being reached by just booting up15:09
EriC^^do you have grub in the menu?15:09
Hanrathere are 111 entries in my boot manager interface (F12 during the boot process)15:09
Hanraand no, "grub" is not the name of an option there15:10
Hanra109 are called "HDD: (<SOME SERIAL NUMBER)", 1 is "Ubuntu (SOME SERIAL NUMBER)" and 1 is "Windows Boot Manager (The serial number)"15:10
EriC^^ok, try booting ubuntu from there15:11
HanraTakes me back to grub rescue with the "error: unknown filesystem" at the top15:12
EriC^^Hanra: try typing search.fs_uuid <uuid> root hd0,gpt615:13
EriC^^then set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub'15:13
Hanraunknown command search.fs_uuid15:13
Hanraone mo, will insmod15:14
EriC^^ok, try editing it in the pi maybe15:14
HanraOkie dokie15:14
Hanrachat is likely to fill up with spam while I do this...15:15
muculusI have problem when I try to Bond virtual network interfaces in ubuntu : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11980300/15:19
HanraEric^^ could you repeat that change?15:19
daftykinsmuculus: ##networking might be handy if you get no reply.15:20
EriC^^Hanra: change gpt5 to gpt615:20
Hanraso the line should now read :15:20
Hanrasearch.fs_uuid <blah> root hd0,gpt615:20
muculusdaftykins: I will try it now. :-)15:21
NokajiMy second burn on a blu Ray and my second failure. First time I didn't leave enough room for some error correction stuff it writes after the burn, this time I left 1.5GB approx space. It stopped at 22,268MiB out of 22,316MiB (closer than last time by I think 150MB). I can't see any clues in debug, it says 100% written. - Is 1.5GB spare really not enough for error correction? - Why won't this thing burn? Message is "Fatal error during recording:15:21
aluvote for Linux / Ubuntu15:21
daftykinsalu: no thank you, please don't post that kind of thing here - try #ubuntu-offtopic15:22
HanraEric^^ I'm getting permissions issues15:23
Hanraone mo15:23
bedehoAnyone with advice on broken Ubuntu Win8 dual boot? came before, was told to come back later.15:26
HanraEric^^ : Done, still broken15:26
daftykinsbedeho: share some more details to the channel, maybe write it up in a http://paste.ubuntu.com15:26
EriC^^Hanra: ok15:26
Hanrais it possible that search.fs_uuid is giving the wrong partition?15:27
EriC^^Hanra: is the uuid the same as that for the root partition?15:28
EriC^^Hanra: what are the rest of the gpt's ? try ls (hd0,gpt7)/15:28
bedehoNew laptop which came with Win8 preinstalled. I installed Ubuntu desktop from an usb drive, and it works fine, however trying the windows boot option leads to the windows boot loader claiming there is some disk error which it cannot resolve.15:28
HanraEric^^ All give unknown filesystem except hd0,gpt615:29
daftykinsbedeho: tried booting windows 8 media and running chkdsk on each partition?15:29
EriC^^Hanra: i guess you can try grub4dos if you want15:30
EriC^^i've never used it before but i imagine it's a grub you install from windows and i know you can boot an .iso from it15:30
HanraEric^^ Ok, will look into it15:31
Hanrawhere should I get the right iso from?15:31
bedehodatykins: not sure what you mean by that? I cant get windows to start at all, bootloader fails. It has some auto repair feature it tries, but it also fails. I was told it may be some sort of UEFI issue15:31
EriC^^Hanra: releases.ubuntu.com15:31
daftykinsbedeho: boot a windows flash drive or DVD to repair15:32
bedehodaftykins: wont that just destroy my ubuntu install, and also, wont I just get the same problem if I try to reinstall ubuntu?15:34
yblHey guys!15:35
daftykinsbedeho: i didn't say anything about reinstalling Ubuntu... that's obviously not going to fix Windows15:35
yblI just bumped into Ubuntu MATE15:35
SuperLagIf I'm doing an upgrade from 12.04.5 -> 14.04.2, should I bother doing the reboot after the updates to the latest 12.x packages prior to starting the upgrade?15:35
daftykinsbedeho: i recommend you backup your data and start again. you're going to need to go to ##windows for help fixing windows though, it's off topic here15:35
SuperLagor am I save just proceeding with the upgrade?15:36
yblWondering how should i go about installing/replacing it over my current installation (which is the usual desktop version)15:36
daftykinsSuperLag: some are installed already, or it's offering some?15:36
brothersomeSuperLag, better burn an installCD for 14.04 and do a full install, updating went wrong for me that way15:36
bedehodaftykins: Its not windows which doesnt work, it worked, the problem is installed Ubuntu without making Windows unusable?15:36
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daftykinsbedeho: you're saying Windows doesn't boot, correct?15:36
SuperLagbrothersome: I run into minor issues on upgrades, but nothing I've not been able to address afterwards. That, and there's far too much customizations to do that, in this instance.15:37
MonkeyDustybl  try sudo apt install mate-desktop15:37
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SuperLagdaftykins: before I start an upgrade, I do an update to make sure the current version has all the current packages15:37
SuperLagdaftykins: in this case, some of them were kernel upgrades15:37
bedehodaftykins: not anymore, as a result of Ubuntu modification of partitions/boot loader15:37
yblMonkeyDust: Is the desktop environment same as the distro ?15:37
MonkeyDustybl  yes, it's basicaaly a different screen layout15:38
MonkeyDustybl  NO, it's basicaaly a different screen layout15:38
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daftykinsbedeho: so what do you want to happen? you want both Windows and Ubuntu to work?15:39
daftykinsi.e. successfully boot15:39
bedehoyes, now only ubuntu works.15:39
yblMonkeyDust: The distro talked aobut it being able to run smoothly on  low end devices, that is what my concern is15:39
daftykinsSuperLag: yeah boot into the newest first15:39
meatiesomeone should help him by doing a net install for him15:39
daftykinsSuperLag: autoremove too to get rid of the junk - and "sudo apt-get clean" to recover some disk space :)15:39
MonkeyDustybl  yes, i use mate for my virtual ubuntu, because it's so light15:39
daftykinsbedeho: right, so your problem is Windows not working - which is not a topic for this channel15:39
yblMonkeyDust: So the DE = distro ? I am a bit confused .15:40
daftykinsdesktop environment15:40
daftykinsi.e. unity, xfce, KDE, MATE...15:40
MonkeyDustybl  no, a DE is the screen layout, used by the distro, some screen layouts are lighter than others15:41
OerHeksxfce is pretty light15:41
OerHeks= Xubuntu15:41
yblMonkeyDust: Alright, so I need to get the distro right ?15:41
Guest87034hello I am trying to enter the router config page but I get this message: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-do-sslv3-error-messages-mean-firefox how could I enter the router config page??15:41
MonkeyDustybl  distro = ubuntu, DE = the way ubuntu looks (sort of)15:42
meatieyeah like daftykins said, you should not talk here anymore because your problem is that of Windows.15:42
bedehodaftykins: wow, got to say, that is a strange way to describe the situation...15:42
OerHeksGuest87034, ask your provider to update, or allow it once.15:42
daftykinsbedeho: i'm going by the information you've given me, what is strange?15:42
Mandeep_SinghHey everyone, I want to ask is there any way to check fan speed of my CPU in Ubuntu. I've tried some tools like lm-sensors, pwmconfig, sensors-detect, demidecode etc. but could not get the full info15:42
meatiecan we vote this guy off the island?15:42
daftykinsbedeho: you think that because you installed ubuntu, fixing Windows is an ubuntu problem?15:42
MonkeyDustMandeep_Singh  try psensor15:42
meatieso what, maybe some of us WANT to help him15:42
meatieyou clearly failed.15:43
bedehodaftykins: its fine, i wont ask you, are you saying I am allowed to ask anyone else also? Because I got a lot more help before, he just said I should stick around for someone with more experience.15:43
meatieignore daftykins, everyone is fine helping you.15:44
daftykinsGuest87034: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=289369115:44
yblMonkeyDust: Oh i am talking about the Ubuntu MATE distro.15:44
daftykinsbedeho: no i'm saying you can't discuss fixing windows problems in an ubuntu channel :) go join ##windows15:44
bedehomeatie: thanks15:44
OerHeksbedeho, fixing the bootloader to windows as original is a good step.15:45
OerHeksso daftykins is right, i guess.15:45
bedehodaftykins: I disagree with how you are describing the situation, and for good measure, I asked on windows, they said it depends on issue with how the ubuntu boot loader is installed15:45
OerHeksafter that, it is easy to reinstall grub.15:45
daftykinsbedeho: right but as OerHeks just said, you should start by repairing Windows... which isn't an ubuntu issue.15:45
meatiedaftykins, you are off-topic. you  aren't talking about ubuntu.15:46
meatieplease stop.15:46
Mandeep_SinghMonkeyDust, Thanks. But I've already tried that. Just to confirm, I tried just now. And it doesn't shows any option for fan speed and something related to fan.15:46
daftykinsbedeho: please bear in mind i've seen hundreds of your situation before and things aren't going to change just for you15:46
meatieeg. you've been this way forever?15:46
rfmonHas anybody managed to install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.04?15:47
bedehoOerHeks: what do you mean by "fixing it as original", not sure I follow15:47
daftykinsrfmon: yes it's a common thing15:47
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daftykinsrfmon: if you're trying to use the ones from their website, i would not recommend this at all.15:47
rfmondaftykins: Yeah? I tried from their website as well as a PPA.15:48
daftykinsrfmon: which PPA? what went wrong?15:48
meatierfmon, yes15:48
meatietry bleeding edge15:49
rfmondaftykins: Wait, I just found out that I have another problem as well. When I boot up, instead of the decrypting prompt I get a black screen. However, this happens before I install the drivers.15:49
daftykinsrfmon: unrelated15:50
rfmondaftykins: Yeah, thought so. Hmm15:50
daftykinsso, what went wrong?15:50
OerHeksbedeho, you could try reinstalling grub2 without fixing the windowsbootloader15:50
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rfmondaftykins: Well, essentially when I get the blank decrypt screen, I can enter my password and press enter. The screen then turns on and it's all good. BUT, after I've installed the drivers, I get nothing. I enter my password at what I think it's the decrypt screen and nothing happens after.15:52
rfmonBut I haven't been able to find a proper fix for the blank screen.15:53
daftykinshmm no idea then, i don't use encryption15:53
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njoyExcuse me, but if I need to chroot to install a kernel but got a cuestion.When I do "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev" on the livecd whitch dev do I moun? whitch one sould I moun? dev from my instalation or live?16:00
AppAraatdaftykins: re: making a new xorg.conf file - some examples suggested generating a new conf file by doing "Xorg -configure". Do you find that sound advice?16:00
serequestion: cant mount my sd card.. i get this error : /dev/sdb1 is write protected, mounting read only.. mount /dev/sdb1: cant read superblock16:01
AppAraatsere: it is probably improperly formatted.16:02
mib_8f293awhat's the difference between xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-radeon?16:02
Afforessis the sd card write protection turned on sere? That little switch on the side of sd cards that can block writes might be on.16:03
mib_8f293axserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-ati*16:03
daftykinsnjoy: /dev is from the live session since you're typing it before the chroot. you can't mount something to the same place because it's already there ;)16:04
sereAppAraat: its pulled from a andriod device and stopped working..windows wouldnt see either..16:04
ivo34hello I am trying to enter my router config page but I get this error: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-do-sslv3-error-messages-mean-firefox is there any other way to enter the bhs rta router config?16:04
daftykinsivo34: yeah i linked you to something already16:05
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daftykinsivo34: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=289369116:05
AppAraatsere: then it might just be corrupted.16:06
sereAppAraat: its my moms pulled it from her phone when it was already unmounted..never tried re-mounting it.. i guess i will try that and hopefully its not..thanks for the help :)16:10
njoythanks a lot16:11
meatiebe careful guys. you are off-topic, daftykins might scold you.16:12
njoywhen I do "sudo chroot /media" I get "chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory16:12
njoy" can you explain please16:12
HanraThanks to Eric^^'s suggestion I've downloaded an .iso for ubuntu 14.04, anyone able to walk me through using grub4dos on windoze 8.1?16:13
Hanrathe documentation I've found so far only goes as far as Windoze 716:13
ivo34daftykins,  thanks for the thread...16:13
daftykinsdoubt it changes much16:13
ivo34yeah it made me think how come a router config page be that risky...being inside my lan16:15
Hanrajust checking, Eric^^... if you're still there... you've never used grub4dos right?16:20
daftykinsHanra: i'd have taken the thing apart hours ago... fwiw :)16:20
Hanradaftykins, am getting to that point where I'm very tempted16:21
Hanraalthough actually reading up on UEFI I'm not sure whether that'll even help... I may just have old live CDs16:21
MonkeyDustHanra  daftykins i admire your patience16:21
daftykinsHanra: or even just powering off, removing the battery + mains, then holding the power button for a bit to see if it'll make it change its' mind about a few things16:21
Hanradaftykins... what would that even do? What sorcery is that?16:22
daftykinsit's a total stab in the dark16:22
daftykinsi don't expect much, but it won't hurt and won't take long16:23
Hanrabut.. what would it do?16:23
HanraIs that a cunning way to drain the cmos battery?16:23
* Hanra is totally trying it16:23
daftykinsHanra: nah it won't touch that, else BIOS passwords would be totally useles16:25
Hanradaftykins, based on my experience today I'm pretty convinced BIOS passwords are just plain useless. But then I think letting employees brick their own machines to be fine, they can pay for a replacement16:27
OerHeksflushing power can surely solve some runaway chipsets16:27
Hanra"cannot allocate kernel buffer"? Oh dead16:28
daftykinsHanra: heh, where's employees come from o016:28
Hanradaftykins, well why would you set a BIOS password?16:29
meatiesecurity theatre16:29
daftykinsprevent someone booting an external device and stealing data16:29
daftykinsHanra: you got that error after doing it?16:31
SuperLagWhat is the proper way to *globally* set /usr/local/bin to be read first, before /usr/bin ?16:31
EriC^^SuperLag: /etc/environment , i think16:33
NokajiI'm looking for a source (PPA) for "CDRTools 3.01a24". One without brandensnider in the URL as the files are no longer accessible there16:33
EriC^^Hanra: any updates?16:33
HanraEric^^ grub4dos scares me (can't find instructions for setting it up on windows 8) so I'm taking the plunge and dismantling my laptop to get at the CMOS battery16:34
EriC^^good, got to do it anyways16:35
TikityTikI am told to use the command "reaload ssh"16:35
TikityTikfor an SSH guide, but it tells me that the program reload is currently not installed.16:35
EriC^^Hanra: i think it'll reset the boot options menu though16:35
TikityTikAnyone know what I'm talking about?16:35
SuperLagEriC^^: thanks. That's it.16:35
EriC^^so you better have a live usb or a means to make one, or have a boot by efi file menu entry16:36
EriC^^SuperLag: np16:36
OerHeksNokaji, http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cdrtools-3.01a30.tar.gz ( 24 is old and not on that page)16:37
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:38
NokajiOerHeks: That makes some sense, I'll give it a try. Can you vouch for fossies, I've not heard of them16:38
OerHeksNokaji, you can search yourself for other sources, there is no ppa wit it besides the one you don't want16:38
daftykinsNokaji: just make sure you remove some of these PPAs you've already tried to throw on, having them all at once is going to be a right mess16:39
Nokajidaftykins: I'll do that hile it is on my mind, as soon as I figgur out how, thanks16:39
Nokajithey are the only two that don't load and create erros so I would get a reminder16:40
daftykins!ppapurge | Nokaji this one's always handy16:40
ubottuNokaji this one's always handy: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html16:40
AppAraatdaftykins: I am relieved to see X11 as it appears to be working (the output of Xorg -configure did startle me for a second, especially that segmentation fault - http://apaste.info/zuB) but the machine booted up successfully. Now to see how I can change the color depth to 16.16:40
daftykinsAppAraat: no need to keep me updated, thanks16:41
AppAraatoh ok. I just figured you'd be interested.16:42
NokajiI've unticked them in software & Updates16:42
daftykinsNokaji: right but if any packages are on from any of them right now... here be dragons16:42
OerHeks!info cdrkit16:42
ubottuPackage cdrkit does not exist in vivid16:42
Nokajiit reloaded package info immediately, I never got to install the one pkg i needed16:43
Nokajisee what you mean though16:43
nothingmuchi think i installed opengl related packages from a ppa a few months ago, experimenting with different xorg drivers, and now I can't install vlc because libgles{1,2}{,-mesa} is not going to be installed16:47
beakyhow do i install phantomjs in ubuntu i tried npm install phantomjs in my nodejs project directory but it doenst install :(16:48
merpnderpUbuntu phone is EU countries only, right?16:48
beakyubuntu server 15.04 *16:48
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nothingmuchhow do i figure out what's blocking it?16:48
Nokajidaftykins: The deed is done, branden is purged16:48
beakynvm i did sudo apt-get install phantomjs and it worked! thanks16:52
beakybtw how do you autoamte teh deployment of ubuntu server with all my stuff in it16:52
daftykins!touch | merpnderp16:52
ubottumerpnderp: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch16:52
merpnderpthanks daftykins16:54
molgrumi have a printer that needs "gs-esp" package, what's my best bet here?16:55
molgrumto solve this problem16:56
beakyhow do i use newer packages in ubuntu server16:57
OerHeksmolgrum, canon ?16:57
molgrumOerHeks: yep16:58
OerHeksThe problem is that gs-esp was available as a package up to Ubuntu 10.10, but not for 11.04 (see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gs-esp ). It has been replaced with ghostscript-x, but apparently your Canon packages insist on gs-esp being installed.16:58
molgrumOerHeks: found a walkthrough now16:58
OerHeksmolgrum, you could try something like: sudo dpkg -i --ignore-depends=gs-esp cndrvcups-common_<version>.deb17:00
molgrumOerHeks: found newer drivers and they installed flawlessly17:00
OerHeksoh, better :-P17:00
MegabyteHello, everyone17:04
MegabyteHow do I downgrade Ubuntu to kernel 3.0 or 3.1.0?17:04
OerHekswow, why such old kernel?17:05
daftykinsMegabyte: yeah, what are you trying to do?17:06
Megabytedaftykins, I'm trying to run a current distro on old, proprietary hardware17:06
daftykinsMegabyte: how come? what hardware?17:07
Megabytedaftykins, I have a netbook with cannot run on anything different than an old kernel 3.0 or 3.117:07
MegabyteThe culprit is the graphics card, a GMA 360017:07
daftykinsis that a poulsbo chipset thing?17:07
OerHeksyeah, cedar trail17:08
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molgrumhmm how do i find out what dev file my printer is using?17:08
molgrum /dev/*17:08
OerHeksmolgrum, localhost:63117:08
MegabyteOerHeks, It's a cedar trail thing, yes17:09
molgrumOerHeks: hrm, no location17:10
MegabyteOerHeks, So, is it possible to downgrade?17:10
tgm4883Megabyte: I'm not aware of a way to downgrade that far. Whats the problem with a newer kernel?17:11
OerHeksdowngrade will give you a dependencie-war, install precise 12.04 again and don't upgrade17:11
daftykinsMegabyte: probably game over.17:11
OerHeksi think cedar trail is a good door-blocker17:11
Megabytetgm4883, The problem is that I can't use newer kernels with this chip17:12
daftykinsall netbooks are at retirement really17:12
MegabyteSimple is that17:12
Megabytedaftykins, Of course they are17:12
Megabytedaftykins, But it's still usable hardware17:12
MegabyteI can't just toss it away17:12
daftykinsagree to disagree on that one17:12
tgm4883Megabyte: so it doesn't boot or something? Or it throws an errors saying "Linus hates cedar trail and has removed support for this"? I just find it weird that something that used to work no longer works. This isn't Windows land17:13
daftykinstgm4883: i've seen users in here have pretty dire graphics performance on the things for a couple of years17:13
tgm4883daftykins: ah17:13
daftykinssome kinda big regression i think that nobody seems to care about fixing since netbooks are so old17:13
tgm4883daftykins: I'll agree, that GMA stuff is pretty crap17:14
daftykins*nod* i can't claim it as fact mind you, just the feeling i got17:14
Megabytetgm4883, It doesn't, dude17:15
MegabyteIt's a binary driver17:15
Megabytetgm4883, I think Ubuntu will try the generic Vesa17:15
Megabytebut generic vesa for that chip is really slow17:15
jackcomhow can i open 22 port?17:16
daftykinsjackcom: to SSH into your system from on the internet? port forward on your router.17:16
jackcomi don’t know17:17
daftykinsdon't know what?17:17
tgm4883jackcom: what is your end goal17:17
jackcomport forward on your router.  <—— what is it?17:17
tgm4883jackcom: do you want to be able to SSH into your machine from across the house, or across the country?17:18
daftykinsjackcom: what is your router make and model?17:18
HanraEric^^ The keyboard got the better of me. I am going to take the laptop to a professional17:18
EriC^^Hanra: what do you mean?17:19
EriC^^Hanra: usually there's a screw that holds the keyboard there and you can then push it out17:19
HanraThe CMOS battery is buried deep. The keyboard is held down with 6 latches17:19
Hanrabeneath that is more things17:20
molgrumhmm, i wonder why my usb printer is not detected. tryign to find some sort of blacklist.17:24
AppAraatwelp, that xorg.conf method didn't work :(17:24
AppAraatskype now displays pretty much nothing instead of displaying the machine webcam17:25
reveredgei have bought a new pc with 256 gb SSD and 1 TB HDD... how should I configure the partitions17:25
Mitchell92hello... I have a HP Mini 110-1100... 2GB RAM, 1.6GHZ Atom with HT... I wanted to run Ubuntu GNOME... Any thoughts as far as performance?17:25
EriC^^Hanra: you might be able to reset the bios from windows check here http://www.askvg.com/how-to-reset-remove-bypass-a-bios-or-cmos-password/17:27
AppAraatreveredge: I'd configure it all on one partition (unless you want to multiboot), and keep backing up the /home partition.17:28
AppAraat*your /home folder.17:28
EriC^^Hanra: check here too http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CmosPwd17:29
reveredgewont you like to keep few things on HDD which need lesser access17:29
reveredgelike / on SSD is obvious but what about /home and others17:29
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daftykinsreveredge: keep it all on the SSD but mount the mechanical for large file media storage17:36
daftykinsthat'll keep the software fast at run time, as your dot-file configs will be on the SSD too17:36
daftykinsyou could even symlink ~/Pictures, ~/Music etc to the mechanical17:37
N00bieHey, all. I have an audio question (can't find answer on google). How do I get sounds working in Thunderbird or Sylpheed?17:37
N00bieI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, btw.17:40
N00bienobody, huh?17:42
Urist_what do you mean by sound working on Thunderbird? does it work on you OS?17:44
molgrumanyone that knows why my canon lbp-1120 is not deteted by lsusb?17:46
daftykinsmolgrum: watch dmesg | tail on plugging and unplugging perhaps17:47
molgrumdays nothing17:48
daftykinssounds like your ports aren't happy then?17:48
daftykinstry another?17:48
molgrumno dice :(17:49
daftykinsother devices work in there i take it?17:49
daftykinsis the printer even on o017:50
molgrumthe port do work, i have tried other devices such as usb-drives17:50
daftykinswhat about today?17:50
molgrumyes it is on :)17:50
molgrumwell i can try17:50
daftykinsbad cable? :>17:50
njoycan somebody excpleinnme why I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short17:51
njoy" doing chroot17:51
molgrumdaftykins: that would be the second time i have a bad cable lol17:51
daftykinsnasty luck!17:52
molgrumi'll try it in windows 717:52
ioriamolgrum, don't know if it works http://askubuntu.com/questions/459354/lbp1120-on-ubuntu-14-04?lq=117:52
HaarbalHey there! I have a Windows 10/Ubuntu 15.04 dual boot, with Ubuntu on an 120GB 840 EVO SSD and Windows 10 on an 250GB 840 PRO SSD. Samsung Magician (in Windows) tells me there's a firmware update for the Ubuntu SSD. Can I just update it via Windows?17:53
OerHeksHaarbal, not an ubuntu issue, but i guess so17:56
extremez3r0Hi Guys! I'm with a problem with resolution and my monitor. I have a nvidia. to make easyer I make a gist: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/gabrsar/6f8cfb0501de29f5e8e8/raw/1a38e9f89ff62140cc47a63cf9cedd660901001b/gistfile1.txt17:56
extremez3r0I don't know what more to do.17:57
HaarbalOerHeks, Well, it turns into an issue if I lose my Ubuntu install because an MS app messes up :-p17:57
OerHeksHaarbal, don't put the blame on ubuntu, btw a firmwareupdate should not reset any setting.17:59
HaarbalOerHeks, Fair enough. Time for a reboot.18:02
OerHeksextremez3r0, did you try to reset that monitor in its own menu?18:03
extremez3r0hum... Not yet. I will try it now18:03
OerHekselse try the driver tool, for a nvidia package, 340 or so18:04
extremez3r0I think that this is not monitor fault. On my arch linux it works smooth18:04
extremez3r0I'm don't found anything to "reset"m monitor on its menu18:07
extremez3r0Ok. I found. Apply factory settings.18:09
OerHeksnow i hope it picks up the new EDID info18:10
extremez3r0nothing change, except the color temperature :(18:10
extremez3r0No. Ubuntu monitor config still show Unknow monitor18:10
extremez3r0And max resolution still at 1360x864 (but cause screen distortion when I put it), I have to use 1152x864318:11
OerHeksstrange, else try the closed source driver18:12
extremez3r0I've tried,18:13
extremez3r0346, 340, and noveau18:13
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j3r0guys what is the www-data group ?18:20
extremez3r0probably user of apache or ngnix18:20
MonkeyDustj3r0  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server18:20
proq`how do I change my capslock key to control on ubuntu 14.10 server?18:21
j3r0yeap ! thanks and sorry I didn't knew18:21
OerHeksproq`, on supported ubuntu versions, something like setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps18:23
kreskWhen you partition a drive, does it take from the beginning of the drive or end of the drive?18:23
proq`OerHeks: thanks18:24
kreskI'm wanting to partition my 1TB (untouched.  Windows is on my 256GB SSD) hard drive to like 500GB so I can have some storage left over for random use.  But I'm afraid that Ubuntu won't be that fast because I heard  Ubuntu speed depends on if the partition is the beginning of the space or the end.18:26
kreskThe beginning being the fastest of the drive, the end being the slowest.18:26
kreskI know I butchered that question, but I'm new to all this.  Any help would be awesome.18:26
ObrienDavekresk, NOT true18:26
OerHekskresk, that is only true for swap.18:27
kreskI have no idea.  I just am really wanting work with Ubuntu but I can't replace Windows with it considering I built this PC for gaming... and didn't plan on getting into this.18:27
kreskwanting to work with*18:27
ObrienDavekresk, my Ubuntu partitions are at the end of the drive, no dual boot issues with performance here18:28
kreskGTX 980 SLI and the whole bunch.  I want Ubuntu to be quite fast and I've read some articles, but sometimes they lose me because I've never dealt with Linux.18:28
akikkresk: put ubuntu on the ssd18:29
kreskI'm going to be using it for learning the terminal and Python development.  Would I notice it being slower than Windows is for me?  Considering it's on an SSD and all.18:29
kreskI can't.18:29
kreskI may buy a 500GB SSD if I become comfortable with Ubuntu, but right now I just want something stable and fast so I can learn.  I don't need it uber-fast.18:30
ObrienDaveregular HD will be just fine18:30
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kreskIt's a 7200RPM, I don't know if that helps at all.18:31
kreskBut anyway, I just partition the 1TB drive to how much space I want Ubuntu to have and install it to the partitioned drive via USB?18:31
ObrienDaveit's faster than a 5k drive, yes18:31
kreskAlso.  Am I able to clear Ubuntu off of the partitioned drive if I wanted and join the two partitioned drives back together as one?18:32
ObrienDavekresk, yes18:32
kreskOk, cool.18:32
akikkresk: you don't have to prepare the hd. the ubuntu installer takes care of it18:32
kreskI don't have to partition it myself right now?18:32
ObrienDaveno, just be sure you select the HD for installing18:33
kreskIt will allow me to choose how much space I want to dedicate to Ubuntu from the drive I selected?18:33
ObrienDavedrive size will be your best clue :)18:33
kreskOf course, of course. :O18:33
kreskOk, thank you.  I appreciate your help.18:33
ObrienDavemost welcome. come back and ask ANYTIME18:34
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kreskSure thing.  I truly appreciate all of the help even though it was just a few questions.18:34
kreskOne more thing:18:34
ObrienDavekresk, we would rather you ask first before you have problems. anytime, any questions18:35
kreskSay here in few weeks or so when I get comfortable with Ubuntu for daily use, can I transfer the existing Ubuntu over to an SSD if I want increased speeds?18:36
kreskAwesome.  Is it a complicated process?  I was reading around a week or so ago and I read something about it being quite a complicated task to wipe Ubuntu off of a drive and merge it with your old partition for the drive to be whole again.18:37
kreskIf it is complicated, that is fine. I will not run because of it.  That's why I want to start working with Ubuntu - to learn.  I just don't want tasks to be damn near impossible for a beginner user to accomplish if something goes south.18:38
kreskI thought of trying VMWare Workstation before installing it.  Would you recommend that?18:39
ObrienDavewell, anything is a PITA if not done correctly and without guidance.18:39
kreskI agree with that 100%.18:39
meatiejust install virtualbox18:39
ObrienDavei have no experience with VMware. i use VirtualBox18:39
meatiequicker and for simplistic use to get going18:40
kreskI have an i7 4790K @ 4.0GHz and 16GB of 1866MHz RAM.  Is that enough hardware to have it run smoothly in a Virtual Box?18:40
ObrienDavekresk, your best option is to always come back here for advice before you have major issues18:40
njoycan somebody excpleinnme why I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short18:40
njoy" doing chroot18:40
meatiekresk, yes.18:40
meatiethose are good specs.18:40
meatieyou can run multiple instances ehe18:41
kreskRight on.  Do you mind if I private message you, meatie?  You seem to know a bit about VirtualBoxes.18:41
meatieonly if you promise not to ask for nudes.18:41
kreskI pinky promise. *crosses fingers behind back.*18:42
ObrienDavejust don't do like some have, run 14 instances, 6 browsers, 8 tabs each, and then complain that their system bogs down LOL18:42
kresk14 instances of the OS, you mean?18:42
ObrienDaveanything in particular :)18:42
kreskI was just going to install Ubuntu and use it as I would if I was dualbooting it so I could learn it.  Using the Terminal, maybe doing some programming and such.18:43
kreskIf I were to use a VirtualBox that is.18:43
ObrienDaveyou'll be fine, i'm just kidding ;P18:43
akikkresk: what was the reason you can't install ubuntu on the ssd?18:43
kreskOh, okie.  I've never done this type of stuff before so I have no idea what to expect performance-wise.  :D18:43
ObrienDaveakik, he does not want to18:44
meatiekresk, you won't notice the VM running.18:44
kreskIt's only 256GB and Windows is occupying it.  I use it for all Windows software and Steam games... when I do have time to play.18:44
akikkresk: are you going to install the boot loader on the usb disk too?18:44
kreskI'm planning on buying another SSD for Ubuntu if things go well.18:45
kreskIf you mean installing Ubuntu from a USB, then yes.18:45
kreskI have no disk drive.18:45
kreskI didn't think about that when I built this PC around 7 months ago.18:45
ObrienDavehe means installing GRUB to the SSD18:45
kreskOh, I'd have to look up what that is so I can give you the answer you're looking for. :/18:46
kreskDoing so now.18:46
ObrienDaveGRUB is the linux bootloader18:46
kreskI've seen it being spoken about in quite a few articles I've read, but I don't really understand it.18:46
wolfieoramaHi good people anybpdy with a fix for ubuntu 14.04 wireless not working, RTL8723 realtek ssemiconductor18:47
kreskLike I said, I've never messed with Linux before in my life. (Although I'm only 20.)18:47
akikwindows has a boot loader too and usually it's safe to replace it with grub18:47
meatiekresk you can just make a mount point setup correctly and you'll be fine.18:47
akikbut with the uefi thing i'm not sure18:47
kreskBut then again, this is why I want to get with Ubuntu.  To possibly migrate away from Windows in the future and expand my knowledge in general.18:47
ObrienDaveif you want the easiest way to dual boot, select the SSD for installing the bootloader18:47
ObrienDave!uefi | kresk18:48
ubottukresk: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:48
meatieyou play Steam games on Windows?18:48
kreskI'm sure I'll be able to do that, but I'm considering the VirtualBox.  I wouldn't have to do that if I took that route, right?18:48
meatieits available for linux i just never played any games yet.18:48
kreskIt is, just not many games.  When I do play games, it's mostly the new triple A games like Witcher 3, Batman: Arkham Knight and such.18:48
kreskIt's actually surprising the amount of games that are becoming Linux compatible.18:49
ivo34hello people18:49
ivo34I need some help configuring a router18:49
ivo34I used to have one router in my network but now it happens to be that I have two!18:50
ivo34and I need to change the ip in one of them18:50
munishanybody there?18:50
Comstockhello, is it me you're looking for?18:50
wolfieorama Hi good people anybody with a fix for wireless not working, RTL8723 realtek semiconductor18:51
ivo34the router configuration web page is unaccessible18:51
ivo34I think it is because of the old sslv3 protocol18:51
ivo34is there a way to change the router ip from ubuntu?18:51
ivo34wolfieorama,  did you try the old chopstick in the hole trick?18:53
kreskCan anyone here recommend a great, stable Virtual Box?18:53
kreski was thinking of going with the VMWare Workstation 30-day trial for a bit.18:53
ivo34for ubuntu virtualbox will work fine with the latest18:53
ObrienDavekresk, the standard Vbox 5 is recommended18:53
ivo34you just need the repo kresk18:53
ivo34the repository18:54
ObrienDaveivo34, NEW user :)18:54
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kreskI know what a repo is, you just kind of lost me though.18:54
ivo34wich ubuntu version are you using?18:54
kreskNone yet.18:55
ivo34just google how to install latest vbox in ubuntu x18:55
toterkresk, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads18:55
kreskI could do that, I was just curious as to whether or not I should use the Oracle VirtualBox or VMWare Workstation.18:55
ivo34and youll find some nice ubuntuforums or askubuntu threads luckily18:55
ObrienDavekresk, a repo is a repository, where packages (programs) are kept. you add repos to your system, and when new versions come out, they are updated automatically18:55
kreskIs there any major differences between the two other than one being free and one being paid?18:55
khaxtry virtualbox its free and i am using it, and personally i think that its easier to use than vmware workstation18:55
AppAraatanyone want to help me find this culprit? With Skype, when the remote caller's video feed is on along with locals, then the window with the video feeds flickers blue. So far, I've tried changing the Xorg's DefaultDepth to 16 (according to the last post here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1078068), launching Skype using a custom shortcut18:56
Comstockhere is a handy guide18:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1078068 in skype (Ubuntu) "Video blinking blue during incoming call" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:56
AppAraat(http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-fix-webcam-problem-in-skype.html) but one simply made the webcam feed black and the other didn't do anything at all. This is my lshw output http://grandpc.kpaste.net/8d6154cb618:56
ivo34virtualbox is great18:56
ivo34for home users18:56
ivo34if you are trying to do something more serious....18:56
kreskSo VMWare Workstation is for much heavier use?18:56
ivo34I think yes18:56
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Comstockyou shouldn't need workstation as a normal user18:57
kreskIn comparison to development editors.  VirtualBox is a lightweight text editor  and VMWare Workstation is an IDE?18:57
ObrienDavekresk, since i joined Ubuntu 5 years ago, i have paid ZERO for software18:57
kreskThat's awesome.  I can't wait to get this started today.18:57
khaxwhy installing iceweasel gives me outdated version ?18:57
wileeeAppAraat, You've tried the skype in the ubuntu repos and the from skype deb?18:57
Comstocki have paid some donations though18:57
kreskI'm gonna go make a sammich then get started on this!18:58
Comstockalways try to help developers when i can18:58
kreskDoes anyone want me to make them a sammich too?18:58
ivo34please some help with telnet...18:58
kreskhehehe. :D18:58
ivo34how do I telnet a router18:58
ObrienDaveComstock, that is always the right thing to do18:58
ivo34I need to change its ip18:58
Comstockwhat router?18:58
kreskBe back, fellas.18:58
ivo34because is the same another router is using18:58
khaxuse the web interface of the router..18:59
AppAraatwileee: I've tried only from Ubuntu repos as I thought it would be best practice. Is it a good idea to try the one from skype.com? There only 12.04 is supported (skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb)18:59
ivo34bhsrta homestation18:59
AppAraat(I have 14.04 minimal)18:59
AppAraatwith Lubuntu minimal desktop.18:59
ivo34khax I cannot!!18:59
wileeeAppAraat, The wiki suggests the ubuntu repos version, I would try both though and if purge each, leave no configs. Easy test is all.19:00
ivo34I get this bothering message: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-do-sslv3-error-messages-mean-firefox khax19:00
ivo34I guess because the router is too....picky19:01
wileeeAppAraat, We can assume your graphics are fine otherwise?19:01
MonkeyDustivo34  xhat's the outcome of    dig | nc termbin.com 999919:01
AppAraatwileee: yes, webcam in cheese works fine and I can play youtube videos on latest chrome. Not sure if all that is a good metric but for me it seems a good indication that graphics adapter is supported.19:02
ivo34MonkeyDust,  ;; Got answer:19:03
ivo34;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6247919:03
ivo34;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2319:03
ivo34and many more things...19:03
njoyanyone know a livecd wiht chroot preinstalled?19:03
khaxjust accept the certificate and change enter the interface19:03
wileeeAppAraat, chrome has latest flash basically 'pepperflash' I just wondered if you had visited the additional drivers tab in software & sources, just phishing really.19:04
MonkeyDustivo34  the many more things is what we want to know ... use a pastebin19:04
nikborhello are there mirror servers for ddebs.ubuntu.com?19:04
wileeeAppAraat, Seems like a skype issue, the graphics is just a possible outlier.19:04
ObrienDave!pastebin | ivo3419:05
ubottuivo34: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:05
wileeenjoy, like a magic click?19:05
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wileeenjoy, chroot is commands, you could make a script.19:06
njoycan somebody excpleinnme why I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short19:07
tgm4883because the file is too short19:07
njoyim tree days with this?19:08
ivo34MonkeyDust,  its a list of dns directions...19:08
ivo34is it safe to post this in a nerdy chat like this?19:08
njoywhat file its to short?19:09
tgm4883njoy: what is the output of "ls -l /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2"19:09
Comstockif it's more than 3 lines use pastebin19:09
MonkeyDustivo34  yes, i hope to extract the most likely router address ... 192.168 ... or so19:09
MonkeyDustivo34  so you can ping to it and even get it in your browser19:09
ivo34oh okay but the point is the router I want to access...is not the one serving dsl I only use it as a wifi point and a hub19:10
ivo34but I guess it keeps the old config and it might be colliding with the main router now19:10
ivo34if static19:10
ObrienDaveivo34, if you want help, help us to help you19:10
njoylrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 dic  4  2014 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.19.so19:11
crshmanhey guys I'm trying to boot into a 14.04.2 live desktop and my machine gets to the desktop but it's completely blank19:11
bekksnjoy: The file your symlink points to is too short.19:11
tgm4883njoy: what version of ubuntu19:11
crshmanand the installer doesn't pop up19:12
crshmanany ideas on how to fix this?19:12
crshmanI juse see the desktop with the restart/shutdown gear in the top right19:12
njoyI dont undestand19:13
ObrienDavecrshman, sounds like a bad ISO. did you check the MD5sum?19:13
crshmangood idea, let me try that ObrienDave19:13
tgm4883njoy: yea, you're file is too small...19:13
tgm4883should be 14.8 kB I believe19:14
tgm4883njoy: what is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep libc6'19:15
ivo34MonkeyDust,  no 192.168. address there and a bunch of them are mac filtered I guess because there are aaaa lines after the a lines pointing to the ip's19:17
ivo34it s a sort of dns network19:17
bekksivo34: Whats a "dns network"?19:18
bratchleyhey if chrome's top bar is full of tabs, what's the easiest way to get the window to not be maximized anymore?19:18
njoyii  libc6:amd64                                           2.19-0ubuntu6.5                                     amd64        Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries19:18
njoyii  libc6-dbg:amd64                                       2.19-0ubuntu6.5                                     amd64        Embedded GNU C Library: detached debugging symbols19:18
njoyii  libc6-dev:amd64                                       2.19-0ubuntu6.5                                     amd64        Embedded GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files19:18
ivo34why did you asked me to dig this: dig | nc termbin.com 9999 MonkeyDust19:19
tgm4883njoy: can you pastebin the output of 'file /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so'19:19
ivo34termbin.com?? what is this place?19:20
bratchleynm just found ctrl+super+down arrow19:20
crshmanObrienDave: md5's match :(19:20
ObrienDavecrshman, ok, bad burn to DVD or USB. redo it19:21
crshmanso off this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM19:21
crshmanI checked the ISO and I also checked the burn19:22
crshmanI piped /dev/cdrom to md5sum and it came back good19:22
ivo34MonkeyDust,  a sort of terminal commands collector... to easily make them public...19:22
ObrienDavecrshman, what did you use to make the USB?19:23
ObrienDavemost here use unetbootin19:23
crshmanI have an external hdd that I dump ISOs onto and it loads the ISOs and boots them19:23
Bashing-om!nomodeest | crshman Try this:19:23
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:23
crshmanactually, let me try booting on another machine to rule out the ISO issues19:23
Bashing-om!nomodeset | crshman Try this:19:24
ubottucrshman Try this:: please see above19:24
crshmanok, i'll try that19:24
tgm4883njoy: what about 'md5sum /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so'19:24
njoybae20779ab807a308fb244ca1a577584  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so19:25
soulissonHello, i'm looking for a light weight browser for somple browsing19:26
GeogtsI recently installed mozilla-light as a web browser and I can't figure out how to set it as the default browser.  It doesn't show up as an option in "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"  and it's not an option to select for webbrowser in lxsession configuration.  any ideas?19:26
OerHeksGeogts, how did you install that 'mozilla light' ?? sounds like it is not in your path or something19:27
tgm4883njoy: bekks nope, that file is correct19:28
crshmanBashing-om: that worked! Thanks19:28
tgm4883njoy: this is a live cd?19:28
njoywant to cry19:29
GeogtsOerHeks: i got an rpm file that i converted with alien and then just ran it19:29
tgm4883njoy: ubuntu 64bit desktop 14.04 (no point releases)?19:29
OerHeksGeogts, oh, i dunno how to fix that.19:29
EriC^^njoy: try a different live cd19:30
EriC^^an ubuntu one19:30
Bashing-omcrshman: Great. In the actual install you "might" have to install a graphics driver .19:30
GeogtsOerHeks: my backup option is qupzilla if i can't get the other working as my default and i got qupzilla from the software center19:30
njoyits ubunu 14.04.219:31
EriC^^njoy: the live cd?19:31
EriC^^njoy: what's the install?19:31
EriC^^and what you're trying to chroot into?19:31
EriC^^ok, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit19:32
EriC^^then sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999919:32
bekksyou dont need pastebinit for nc termbin ...19:32
EriC^^oh crap19:32
EriC^^sudo parted -l | pastebinit19:32
EriC^^thanks bekks19:33
AppAraatwileee: "sudo ubuntu-drivers list" nor "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" produce any output, so I assume all necessary drivers are installed.19:35
AppAraatso let me try and install from skype.com19:36
wileeeAppAraat, Cool, my suggestion is just a easy check of both models, others may have different approaches.19:36
OerHeksAppAraat, "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" should give output.19:36
OerHeksAppAraat, what ubuntu version ?19:36
AppAraatOerHeks: 14.04 x86 minimal with Lubuntu minimal desktop.19:37
AppAraatLinux grandpc 3.13.0-61-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 11:22:15 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux19:37
wileeeAppAraat, net install?19:37
bekksAppAraat: I'd install the latest hardware enablement stack as well.19:38
proq`where are the installed ubuntu packages located?  I need to copy some to a disk19:43
ubottuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline19:45
AppAraathmm that's pretty interesting.19:46
ubottuIf you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD19:46
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Bashing-omproq`: Installed application are all over the operating system . To see where one can look at the install config file " /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.list " .19:47
AppAraatbekks: you mean installing it for trusty as described here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack19:53
bekksAppAraat: yes.19:53
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sggIs there a virtual box for ubuntu 14 04 02 ?19:55
bekkssgg: Just install virtualbox and create a vm.19:55
AppAraatbekks: if that installs the vivid (15.04) kernel, then doesn't that mean that the support for that kernel ends in October? If so, would I be able to install the 15.10 kernel?19:56
bekksAppAraat: Thats all described in the article :)19:56
AppAraatk I'll read it.19:57
xanguaAppAraat: the kernel supports ends when vivid supports ends (january 2016)19:57
digiphreakDoes anyone have a link to a tutorial for formatting a hard drive and then installing Ubuntu?19:59
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rypervenchedigilink: Will this be alongside Windows?20:08
OerHeksinstaller is pretty clear, IMHO20:10
BotchlaBSo, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I just installed this widget as described on the page: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/gis-weather-widget-updated-and-now.html20:18
BotchlaBHowever, whenever I iconify all open windows, it disappears from the desktop.20:18
minixjoin #litindia20:18
BotchlaBI have to use alt + tab to bring it back.20:18
BotchlaBAnyone know what's going on here?20:18
kreskWhen you use a VirtualBox and allocate it RAM to use. Does it only affect your system when running the OS inside of VirtualBox?20:20
kreskSo for example, if I have 8GB of RAM and I allocate Ubuntu to use 4GB of RAM in VirtualBox.  Do I still have 8GB like I always do when not using the VirtualBox?20:21
OerHekskresk, no20:21
kreskAnd from the moment I boot up Ubuntu in the VirtualBox, I then have 4GB until closed?20:21
minixyes absolutely20:21
OerHeksyou can check it with 'free ' in terminal20:21
kreskYou're saying yes and he's saying no. :/20:21
bastoneskresk: it's a yes20:22
kreskOerHeks: What do you mean?20:22
kreskAnd ok, thank you.20:22
bastonesVirtualBox can't take up resources when it's not running20:22
minixany doubt?20:22
kreskOk, right on.  That's all I wanted to know because this mainly was built for a gaming machine and I need the resources when not using the VirtualBox.20:23
kreskbuilt as a gaming machine*20:23
bastonesYou are telling VirtualBox how much RAM the VM can be allocated when it's active, that's all.20:23
OerHeksagain you can check it with the command 'free ' in terminal20:23
OerHeksif Vbox is not running, that memory is free again ofcourse20:24
minixyeah sure20:24
combatcrabI'm trying to install a script that requires /bin be added to my home directory. I'm having trouble understanding what it means, or how to add this new /bin directory to my "PATH".20:29
bekkscombatcrab: Create /home/youruser/bin and add that to your PATH.20:30
combatcrabSpecifically I'm working on installing this script: https://github.com/stickster/irssi-libnotify20:30
kreskDo I have to do a bunch of extra stuff to be able to install 64-bit Ubuntu in a VirtualBox?20:30
combatcrabbekks: What is "PATH" and how do I add that?20:30
bekkskresk: No. Create a 64bit vm, and install Ubuntu in it.20:30
combatcrabbekks: Also, thank you for helping me.20:30
Ben64just make "bin" in your home directory and it automatically gets added to the path20:31
bekkscombatcrab: http://askubuntu.com/questions/402353/how-to-add-home-username-bin-to-path20:31
minixcan any body help me about linux device driver20:31
Ben64bekks: that happens by default, don't need to do anything20:31
bekksminix: Maybe you just ask your actual question instead?20:31
bekksBen64: Ah ok.20:31
combatcrabbekks: I have added the /bin directory, but I get this error when trying to make the file executable: chmod u+x $HOME/bin/notify-listener.py20:32
minixplease tell me somthing basics about linux device driver20:32
combatcrabCommand 'chmod' is available in '/bin/chmod'20:32
combatcrabThe command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.20:32
Ben64combatcrab: you keep saying /bin, but it should be /home/you/bin20:32
bekkscombatcrab: Dont mix up /bin and /home/username/bin20:32
combatcrabbekks: interesting...I'll re-evaluate20:33
minixI want to know about usb device drivers20:33
minixanybody plz help me20:33
bekksminix: And whats your specific question?20:33
Ben64minix: you really need to be specific20:33
minixI want to write a simple usb device driver for interrupt controll20:34
bekksminix: Whats the actual issue behind your question?20:34
minixI want to controll my keyboard using usb device driver in linux20:34
bekksminix: So you want to connect a MIDI keyboard(?) to your computer?20:35
bekksminix: Thats a totally different ptoblem than "I want to know about USB drivers".20:35
minixnow can u give me any suggestion about this issue20:36
Ben64you still need to describe it in detail20:37
bekksminix: Which connection ports does your keyboard have?20:37
minixusb port20:37
bekksIt is a MIDI keyboard and it doesnt have a MIDI port?20:37
minixI don't know know exactly what is a midi po20:38
ObrienDaveusing USB as a MIDI emulator20:38
minixbut i have a usb port with my keyboard20:38
bekksminix: Then you need to find out wether your keyboard is a MIDI keyboard.20:38
bekksminix: By looking up its specs in its manual.20:39
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minixno, its not a midi20:39
bekksminix: Then you need to find out what the USB port is for, in the specs.20:40
Ben64how many keys does the keyboard have20:40
OerHekskeyboard as in piano ?20:40
minixno , its a computer usb keyboard20:40
Ben64then why did you agree before20:40
OerHeksLoLz, plug it in, it works20:40
sync0pateCan anyone give me a hint about getting hdmi to work, I've got no display at all. I can ssh into the machine, but no display at all. I don't know where to start..20:40
Ben64minix: you NEED to explain your issue fully all on one line, explain EXACTLY what you want to do20:41
Ben64this guessing game crap is no fun20:41
MonkeyDustminix  start from the beginning, what brings you here20:41
minixsimply I want to interface my usb key borad to my laptop through linux usb device driver20:41
minixthat's all20:41
OerHeksminix on what linux version ?20:42
Ben64again, you need to explain more20:42
minixubuntu 13.1020:42
minixkernel  ver. 8.020:42
Ben64and 13.10 is dead, upgrade first, then figure out what you want to do, then come back if you can explain what you want20:42
bekksThere is no kernel version 8.0 at all.20:42
MonkeyDustminix  13.10 is dead, upgrade to a supported release, then ask again20:42
OerHekskeyboards should work out of the box, what keyboard exactly ??20:43
OerHeksoh wait 13.1020:43
OerHeksgood troll, minix20:43
minixkey board usb 2.020:43
sync0pateanyone? with hdmi should I be able to see the BIOS screen or anything?20:44
sync0patenothing like that seems to work20:44
tgm4883sync0pate: usually yes20:44
sync0patetgm4883, so.. what might be going wrong if I can't?20:45
combatcrabbekks: Yes, I think that's exactly how I messed things up -confusing /bin with ~/bin. Thank you very much.20:45
minixthe kernel version is 3.820:45
sync0pateI'm just getting "no signal"#20:45
tgm4883sync0pate: bios settings possibly20:45
sync0patetgm4883, so.. I need a monitor..?20:45
bekksminix: 13.10 is dead, upgrade to a supported release, then come back when you can explain what you actually want.20:45
tgm4883sync0pate: uh, how else would you see it?20:45
sync0patetgm4883, I mean, a vga monitor20:46
sync0pateto change the bios settings20:46
minixwht exactly do u want ?20:46
MonkeyDustminix  your ubuntu is too old, it's not supported, upgrade to a supported release20:46
minixif u don't know then don't waste my time20:46
tgm4883sync0pate: possibly.20:46
tgm4883!EoL | minix20:47
ubottuminix: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:47
bekksminix: You are wasting ours. Thank you.20:47
minixi have a 3.16 kernel also20:47
MonkeyDustminix  stop20:47
minixplz solve my issue20:47
minixif u know20:47
tgm4883minix: please pastebin the output of 'lsb_release -a'20:48
minixi couldn't understand....20:48
bekks!pastebin | minix20:49
ubottuminix: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:49
combatcrabbekks: I've done something were now I'm getting a Path error from all directories when trying to run commands (Aren't I awesome?) For example: When I type "ls" from my ~/Downloads directory I get "Command 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls' The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable."20:50
bekkscombatcrab: So revert that "something" you've done.20:50
combatcrabbekks: About that, I'm not sure what I did.20:51
combatcrabbekks: No worries, I'll figure it out.20:52
kondratovhi ppl20:52
kondratovfirst time on irc since 199920:52
ObrienDavewelcome back20:52
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kondratovim amazed ppl still use irc20:53
* kondratov is feeling young again20:53
ObrienDaveit's getting a resurgence :)20:53
tgm4883I'm not sure why? It's one of the better services out there (probably because of it's age, from a time people cared about interoperability)20:55
combatcrabSo, I think to fix my issue I need to edit my /etc/environment file to re-add /bin. How do I do that when /bin has been removed from path and therefor can't use sudo?20:56
bekkscombatcrab: You are STILL mixing up /bin and /home/youruser/bin20:56
combatcrabbekks: I do mean /bin now. I've messed up that directory and need to fix it.20:57
combatcrabbekks: ...methinks.20:57
bekkscombatcrab: Explain "messed up that directory" please.20:57
OerHeksdid you edit your ~/.profile ?20:57
kondratovi got this fujutsu siemens laptop, 2ghz celeron, 2 gb ddr2, and i just installed ubuntu on it, coz win7 ain;t doing the trick20:59
combatcrabbekks: It's my best guess..20:59
bekkscombatcrab: your best guess is what?21:00
bekkscombatcrab: Explain "I messed up /bin" please.21:00
combatcrabbekks: That's my weak "explanation"21:00
ObrienDavein other words, you don't know what you did to mess it up ;P21:01
kondratovnow, i am total newbie in linux, but i like it. i like how it looks and how fast it feels. and the best... the cherry on the top. i like the text browser. got tired of pop=ups and looking for a PDF for hours in that "login to download" maze21:01
combatcrabbekks: But I see now that doesn't add up.21:01
kondratovso... my goal now is to make my ubuntu faster on my machine.21:01
kondratovdo you guys have some advice on where to start reading?21:02
ObrienDaveit will only go as fast as your system allows21:02
kondratovdo you have any advice on where to start reading about linux?21:02
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/21:02
combatcrabbekks: Or, maybe it does add up. Now, when I try to "sudo" from any directory it tells me that sudo is avail in /user/bin, but /user/bin is not in Path. So...I've somehow messed up /bin and removed it from path.21:02
combatcrabbekks: I guess that's my explanation.21:03
EriC^^combatcrab: type echo $PATH21:03
bekkscombatcrab: No. You messed up your environment, not some directory.21:03
bpromptkondratov:     pretty decently optimized as it's, so, your speed will depend lots on your hardware, how fast is your cpu? quad? dual? single core?21:03
combatcrabEriC^^: output is HOME/user/bin21:04
bpromptkondratov:    in channel would be better21:04
combatcrabEriC^^: or rather home/user/bin21:04
Phrozen_OneHello All! I'm trying to find which logs would be helpful or troubleshooting steps to try with a graphics issue. Whenever I log out or change the appearance of gnome (fonts for instance) I get a black screen with just my cursor. Ubuntu 14.04, asus laptop w/nvidia optimus, nvidia prop driver, gnome classic.21:04
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, did you edit ~/.profile ~/.bashrc or something else?21:04
combatcrabEriC^^: I ran (among other things), export PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"21:05
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, open a new terminal and type echo $PATH21:05
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Bashing-omPhrozen_One: The Xorg log is ' /vat/log/Xorg.0.log ' . A place to start .21:06
combatcrabEriC^^: Output: {PATH}:/home/jerry/bin21:06
Phrozen_OneBashing-om, thank you!21:06
bpromptkondratov:    in channel would be better21:06
kondratovroger that21:07
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, pastebin ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc21:07
combatcrabEriC^^: googling "pastebin"21:08
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:08
kondratovdo you use mozzilla or chromium?21:11
kondratovhow about the text browsers?21:12
B0g4r7_lynx baby.21:12
MonkeyDustkondratov  mozilla is a company, it has other products than firefox too21:12
combatcrabEriC^^: # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells.21:13
combatcrab# This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login21:13
combatcrab# exists.21:13
combatcrab# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples.21:13
combatcrab# the files are located in the bash-doc package.21:13
kondratovmonkey, thanks for schooling me:)21:13
combatcrab# the default umask is set in /etc/profile; for setting the umask21:13
kondratovhow do i get lynx installed? i see there is some sort of app store in here but i cant find lynx21:13
bekkssudp apt-get install lynx21:13
bekks!info lynx21:14
ubottulynx (source: lynx-cur): Text-mode WWW Browser (transitional package). In component main, is extra. Version 2.8.9dev1-2 (vivid), package size 4 kB, installed size 43 kB21:14
kondratovthank you21:14
BotchlaBSo, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I just installed this widget as described on the page: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/gis-weather-widget-updated-and-now.html21:14
BotchlaBHowever, whenever I iconify all open windows, it disappears from the desktop.21:14
BotchlaBI have to use alt + tab to bring it back.21:14
BotchlaBAnyone know what's going on here?21:14
EriC^^combatcrab: paste it in paste.ubuntu.com21:14
combatcrabEriC^^: Okay, working that now. Thank you for your help!21:15
combatcrab EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982475/21:16
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, pastebin ~/.bashrc21:17
combatcrabEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982482/21:17
OerHeksBotchlaB, better ask the author, if there is any info available.21:17
OerHekswe cannot support ppa' s21:18
BotchlaBOerHeks: Hm, good call, I may do that. Yes, there is, I believe, and I can probably ask him in his native language.21:18
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, type nano ~/.bashrc and remove the line at the bottom that says export PATH=...21:18
bpromptBotchlaB:   from the looks of it, seems it works mainly in the Unity window manager/environment21:19
BotchlaBbprompt: Ah, I see.21:19
BotchlaBbprompt: Hence the bizarre/unexpected behavior in LXDE.21:19
combatcrabEriC^^: Can't nano... The command could not be located because '/bin:/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable21:19
EriC^^combatcrab: right, type /usr/bin/nano ~/.bashrc21:19
bpromptBotchlaB:      yeah, it may be using a Unity environment component to show in the desktop21:20
BotchlaBbprompt: Yeah.21:20
Dude3when I do df -h, it shows 812GB used of 916GB21:21
combatcrabEriC^^: Okay, done.21:21
Dude3but it says 50G free21:21
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, did you save it?21:21
combatcrabEriC^^: I did, and now I can execute commands from the terminal again!21:22
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, great21:22
combatcrabEriC^^: Thank you so much!21:22
EriC^^so what's the issue you were having?21:22
EriC^^no problem21:23
combatcrabEriC^^: It's an issue I created while trying to add a usr/bin directory - in order to run an IRSSI notification script...w21:23
wafflejockDude3, show your output in a pastebin21:23
moh_hello all21:24
combatcrabEriC^^: After creating ~/bin, I ran that command based on some instructions I found online. Not fully understanding what it does. (silly)21:24
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, so does the script work now?21:24
combatcrabEriC^^: What I think I learned from bekks, is that when I create ~/bin "PATH" will update itself without any need for intervention on my part21:25
EriC^^combatcrab: yeah, that's true21:25
JustAPersonIs there a shortcut to move a window between screens?21:25
combatcrabEriC^^: I need to try again with the script, as in start over. Thank you again for your help here!21:25
wafflejockDude3, easy way is sudo apt-get install pastebinit, df -h | pastebinit21:25
EriC^^combatcrab: ok, np21:26
combatcrabEriC^^: So to try and understand what just happened. I changed my environment to run commands from ~/bin instead of /bin. That's why I needed to append ~/bin to run nano?21:26
Bashing-omcombatcrab: For additional help with irssi scripts there is #irssi on this server - they too are a friendly bunch.21:28
OerHeksJustAPerson, yes, shift crl alt + arrows ( or hold win key for list of shortcuts )21:28
EriC^^combatcrab: yeah, your $PATH wasn't correct so you had to include the full path to the command to run it21:28
combatcrabBashing-om: thank you sir I'll add that channel21:28
combatcrabEriC^^: Got it. That helps, I think I just learned a lot.21:29
moh_i must say this seems like the busiest channel ive been to21:30
moh_every other seems dead21:30
JustAPersonOerHeks: that moves between workspaces21:36
JustAPersonI mean between screens as in monitors21:36
OerHeksJustAPerson, no, i guess not.21:43
user1254JustAPerson: if you use compiz , go to compiz config mananger > window management > Put . There you can specify a key to move an window to the next screen (called output) or a specific one21:44
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JustAPersonuser1254: for what version of ubuntu? this is what I see in 15.04 http://i.imgur.com/Lb458f3.png21:47
user1254JustAPerson: im running 15.04 too21:49
gustav___How can I reduce Ubuntu's memory usage?21:50
ObrienDavedon't run so muck junk at once ;P21:51
k1l_gustav___: see what uses memory and think about if you need that service.21:51
k1l_gustav___: but keep in mind, that free memory is spoiled memory21:51
gustav___I need everything.21:52
gustav___I have free memory but it's still slow.21:52
k1l_gustav___: well, what hardware is it?21:52
gustav___k1l_: What do I paste?21:52
k1l_gustav___: cpu, ram, gpu, hdd or ssd? what ubuntu exactly?21:53
OerHekschoose a lighter ubuntu desktop, like xubuntu21:53
gustav___k1l_: Is there a command to gather all that data? Anyway, it's Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.21:54
gustav___Hold on.21:54
Comstockxubuntu is great on my lower end laptop21:55
gustav___Reinstalling is not an option really. I like my system as it is.21:55
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user1254JustAPerson: you probbaly need to install the 'main' plugins for compiz also: sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default21:55
gustav___k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982775/ It's low on RAM.21:56
kaikun97I just switch from Windows 10 to Ububtu Today :)21:56
ObrienDavegustav___, you don't reinstall, you just add and use a lighter DE21:56
gustav___ObrienDave: I'm using WindowMaker on X11.21:56
BotchlaBkaikun97 \o/21:56
kaikun97Windows 10 privacy policy threw me off21:56
kaikun97so using linux now :(21:57
Comstocki have 3 gigs of ram total and with everything i normally run i am using 1.2 gigs of ram21:57
kaikun97my friend helped me install it21:57
Comstockthats with XFCE window manager21:57
k1l_gustav___: 3GB ram?21:57
ObrienDavegustav___, I have no clue what that is :)21:57
gustav___ObrienDave: It's light.21:57
kaikun97I have 4GB RAM21:57
gustav___k1l_: Yeah.21:57
kaikun97what desktop do you lot reccomens?21:57
kaikun97I am thinking XFCE or KDE21:57
k1l_gustav___: i dont know how fast windowmaker is.21:58
user1254JustAPerson: maybe better : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main compiz-plugins-main-default21:58
gustav___From what I see, WindowMaker is using 80k of RAM.21:58
k1l_gustav___: "fast"21:58
gustav___k1l_: True but there's no problem with WindowMaker when I run low on RAM, it keeps going like usual.21:59
k1l_gustav___: with a ssd that system still should be running fast. so see "free -m" if you are using swap.21:59
gustav___I am.21:59
gustav___32GB of swap. o_O21:59
k1l_gustav___: i dont know about windowmaker. could be the issue that its the bottleneck, not because of ram usage, but because of slowness.22:00
bekksgustav___: Pastebin "free -m" please.22:00
user1254JustAPerson: since Put is probbaly in 'compiz-plugins-main'22:00
ObrienDaveyou dont need that much swap22:00
gustav___Well, Ubuntu set it up.22:00
bekksObrienDave: Having 32G RAM and wanting hibernation, you do.22:00
bekksgustav___: You are using 325M of your swap.22:01
gustav___bekks: True. It's nasty.22:01
k1l_well, its using swap.22:01
ObrienDavebekks, i saw 4GB ram. another user ;P22:01
wellington_goisboa noite22:06
rimdekerHey folks. I got an issue. My machine always has a load average of greater than 1.0, it runs smoothly and all but with just my IRC client and htop running, it's at 1.3222:13
bekksrimdeker: To take a look at "ps aux" to see whats consuming your CPU.22:14
rimdekerbekks: The highest one seems to be /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/mdm/:0.Xauth vt8 at 4% of cpu usage22:16
rimdekerother processes are all at 0 or close to 0 %22:17
bekksrimdeker: And why are you worried about the meaningless output of load? :)22:17
rimdekerbekks: Is it, though?22:18
bekksrimdeker: It is :)22:19
tgm4883I'd argue that it is meaningless in day to day operation, however if you were experiencing performance issues we'd want to look at it22:19
rimdekerBut doesn't it mean that every process has to wait to get some CPU time? So I'd think something's using up the CPU but top/ps/htop don't show anything22:20
rimdekerI got btrfs so I thought it might be some background scrubbing22:20
rimdekerbut wouldn't that be displayed as well?22:20
bekksrimdeker: No.22:22
ObrienDavepeople worry way too much22:22
OerHeksrimdeker, how many cores?22:22
rimdekerOerHeks: 422:22
OerHeksoh, no worrie, "Basically, load average is the amount of traffic to your CPU(s) over the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes. Generally you want this number to be below the number of CPU(s)/cores you have. 1.0 on a single core machine means it's using the CPU to it's maximum,...¨22:23
k1l_rimdeker: so its a multicore cpu so the load of 1 is not the breaking point?22:23
OerHeksyour is probably 4, or 8 with HT22:23
rimdekerIt's an i5, don't know if they got HT actually22:23
rimdekernproc does show 422:23
Paddy_NII was given an Ubuntu Phone (bq Aquaris E4.5) today by a friend and have been trying to reach him for the "passcode" which seems to be a 4 digit number. I have tried factory reset however this does not seem to remove the passcode, would anyone know if there is anything else I can do to remove it whilst I await his response?22:24
OerHeksPaddy_NI, ask in #ubuntu-touch for phone help22:24
rimdekerk1l_: Yeah, I guess. Still kind of weird. My VPS is at 0.05 most of the time22:24
Paddy_NIah yes I thought that would exist22:24
rimdekerk1l_: hosting a bunch of things22:24
Paddy_NIthanks OerHeks22:24
k1l_rimdeker: vps is a total different horse22:25
rimdekerWait, got access to like 25 workstations. Am curious now22:25
bastonesrimdeker: I think all quad i5's come with HT.22:26
rimdekerOh man, this feels like a small annoying wound that you can't stop touching and fiddling around with22:27
rimdekerAll the workstations except one running some screen session are at 0.x :/22:28
tgm4883rimdeker: stop the programs you are running, see if the load returns to 022:29
tgm4883rimdeker: give it a few seconds to do so (30s)22:29
tgm4883rimdeker: if it does, start up one program at a time, see which one is causing you the excess load22:29
tgm4883these are pretty basic troubleshooting steps that people don't seem to recognize22:30
rimdekertgm4883: I already tried. I always run 5 programs and tried shutting them off one by one then running them one by one. atm I'm running hexchat only and it's not the culprit22:30
rimdekerI guess I can try shutting down all sorts of background processes22:31
tgm4883rimdeker: what about after a fresh reboot? And what version of ubuntu is this?22:31
rimdekertgm4883: 14.04 , fresh reboot is the same. Though, I want to try something, going to restart it and not log in via the DM but per ssh. See what it looks like then22:32
dcopein a crontab, 0 6 * * * will only run once at 6 AM each day, right?22:32
tgm4883dcope: yes22:33
IPhotonCan we ask questions here if its Linux mint related?22:47
iMattTuxfirst time irc user, lurking while I read docs. looking for help with Ubuntu on an old MacPro 1,122:47
tgm4883!mint | IPhoton22:48
ubottuIPhoton: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org22:48
daftykinsiMattTux: 1,1? what22:48
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages22:48
daftykinsoh dear Hardy Heron is the newest listed 1,1 ;)22:49
iMattTuxHave read ALL the forum docs on mactel support22:49
daftykinsyeah that link was for my benefit to check22:49
iMattTux1,1 refers to my MacPro, late 2007, Intel Xeon 64b, but 32b EFI22:49
iMattTuxhave also read all of refit and refind info22:50
daftykinsthat's gonna be messy then22:50
daftykinsis there really much point?22:51
iMattTuxI'm doing it because it is hard. I will not give up22:51
iMattTuxNone of the recent versions will boot from liveCD22:52
tgm4883iMattTux: well, I haven't tried it yet, but I wonder if the unofficial iso for the intel HDMI sticks would work22:52
daftykinsi remember the whole 32-bit EFI thing was a bug a bit ago, introduced by Windows 8.1 with Bing cheap laptops22:52
tgm4883since those have 32-bit uefi22:52
daftykinswell not bug but an evil situation really22:52
tgm4883yes, it's dumb22:53
iMattTuxI went all the way back to Ubuntu 7.10 i386 to get a bootable CD22:53
OerHeks32 bit efi ..?  maybe this page is any help  http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support22:53
iMattTuxI've partitioned my drives, installed and then my keyboard fails when I get to Grub22:54
tgm4883I'd take a look at http://liliputing.com/2015/07/install-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-the-2gb-intel-compute-stick.html22:54
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daftykinsiMattTux: well bear in mind we're not going to help with EOL releases22:55
iMattTuxOerHeks: I've read that and the 32b EFI22:55
iMattTuxtgm 4883: that's a link I haven't seen. Will check. Thx ;-)22:56
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courrier_Hey guys! What encryption system as easy as truecrypt do you use to crypt an external volume (hard disk usb key...)?22:58
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courrier_I see that CipherShed is a fork but not in the Ubuntu repos22:59
user1254courrier_: EncFs?23:02
user1254courrier_: has an gnome encfs manager GUI tool which is quite handy23:03
rimdekertgm4883, bekks, OerHeks, k1l_: I found the program that was causing the high load. Just wanted to thank you guys for helping23:04
bekksrimdeker: And what was it?23:04
rimdekerSome VirtualBox thread called iprt-VboxTscThr or something like that. Saw it being 'D' in ps23:04
bekksrimdeker: Thats a scheduling thread for virtualbox.23:05
rimdekerIt's in some sort of uninterpretable sleep. Doesn't do anything but apparently kernel registers that as load23:05
rimdekerbekks: Yeah, exactly23:05
rimdekerAnyway, killed it (even purged it because I'm not using VirtualBox atm lol), restarted and load is now at 0.03-0.05. I'm prolly going to re-install it soon, I'm just glad I figured out what caused the load23:07
rimdekerwouldn't have been able to sleep tonight lol23:07
courrier_user1254: mmmh what's the name of the gui binary please?23:11
courrier_I found cryptkeeper but it's apparently a different tool23:11
courrier_and I'm not sure that cryptkeeper actually crypts a whole disk23:11
courrier_just a folder23:12
courrier_oh but the gui is in a ppa23:12
user1254courrier_: GEncfsM23:13
courrier_user1254: yeap but it needs a ppa, right?23:13
user1254courrier_: i think so yes23:13
user1254courrier_: yep23:16
courrier_user1254: thanks23:17
courrier_I'm also testing cryptkeeper23:17
courrier_ever used this tool?23:17
user1254courrier_:ive never used cryptkeeper no23:18
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user1254courrier_: veracrypt seems to be a fork of truecrypt and im using that one. compatib with truecrypt. do you know veracrypt?23:21
user1254courrier_: im using veracrypt on windows, encfs on ubuntu23:22
DiegoGanyone know why I get black screen after install nvidia driver 352? I've a Dell XPS L502x with two graphic card one dedicated Intel and other passive nvidia 525M.23:28
courrier_I'm suddenly figuring out that right after formatting my external hard disk in ext4, it is mounted as root :/23:30
courrier_I'm using autom mounting by double clicking the device on my desktop23:30
courrier_from a non-root session23:30
mike_ippylooking for help installing ubuntu 12.0.4 - receiving: The creation of swap space in partition of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.23:30
daftykinsmike_ippy: physical PC?23:35
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mike_ippyyes, physical PC23:39
mike_ippyI just attempted to create the partitons using GParted, and received this error: /dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!23:40
mike_ippywhen i attempt to install without a swap space I receive a similar error in the ext4 formatting23:41
stallmenwhat do u get when u do uname -r23:43
stallmencan someone do it23:43
daftykinsmike_ippy: is it to be the sole OS? why are you picking as old as 12.04?23:43
stallmenand post it23:43
daftykinsstallmen: why? we could all be on different ubuntu versions and kernels23:44
stallmenim just confuzzled23:44
stallmenso if no one wants to help me23:45
stallmenthen so be it23:45
mike_ippyIt is to be the sole OS. I chose 12.04 after I experienced a similar error in the installatin of 14.0423:45
daftykinsstallmen: no need to be dramatic, just clarify why this would help you23:46
daftykinsmike_ippy: hmm, are you typing from a live session on the target system right now?23:46
mike_ippyyes, i ran Try Ubuntu to attempt and debug23:46
stallmendaftykins: please23:46
stallmenuname -r23:46
daftykinsstallmen: no.23:47
daftykins!info linux-generic23:47
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version (vivid), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB23:47
tgm4883stallmen: why?23:47
stallmendaftykins: im fr**king mad rightn ow23:48
stallmendo it or ill ddos the whole network23:48
daftykinsmike_ippy: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" followed by "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and share the link23:48
stallmenim not fr**king kidding23:48
daftykinsstallmen: grow up and leave.23:48
tgm4883stallmen: what will that command do to my system?23:48
stallmentgm4883: i dont know23:48
stallmenthats what im trying to find out23:48
daftykinsit prints the running kernel version23:48
jay_google the command23:48
tgm4883stallmen: uname-r: command not found23:49
squintyit just displays the kernel that is being currently used23:49
stallmentheres a space23:49
stallmenuname -r23:49
geniitgm4883: Space before the -r23:49
stallmensquinty: then why is everyone scared23:49
stallmenim scared now too23:49
stallmeni hope it doesnt break tgm4883's system23:49
tgm4883daftykins: I know what it does ;)23:49
squintystallmen,  mature up please and quit with the kiddie threats.  you are not helping yourself in anyway at all23:50
daftykinstgm4883: heh, i did wonder23:50
bazhanghes gone23:50
mike_ippydaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11983257/23:50
tgm4883daftykins: I've been painting mini's for the last 1-2 hours, so I needed some comedic break :) I probably should have just left it alone23:50
daftykinshehe, np23:50
ValidusHey guys I have a bit of an essay coming but I was hoping you could help me out with my current Ubuntu install.23:51
ValidusHey guys, I just updated my 15.04 install, rebooted and have gotten into a massive mess! Basically when I rebooted I entered my password and it seemed like everything was fine but then it just took me back to the login screen. Even if I tried to go in as a guest it would fail. I have googled the issue and from that I chowned my home directory and removed .Xauthority.23:51
daftykinsmike_ippy: yeah i take more than 5 seconds to check :) looks fine, try "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=50" to write zeroes onto the first 100MB of the drive, then try installing again with all the defaults such as partitioning left in the installer23:51
jay_uname -r give the kernel version23:51
daftykinsyeah you're a bit late to the party23:52
daftykinsmike_ippy: it's possible your media is corrupt too?23:52
mike_ippydaftykins: sorry - forgot to tag you so i resent it23:52
ValidusI then tried startx and that said that I was missing Nvidia drivers, so I tried to install them via the guide on the Nvidia site and they seemed to install correctly, however then I had bigger problems when I typed start X it gave me usr/bin/x not found23:52
Validusand that's pretty much where I'm stuck.23:52
daftykinsValidus: sounds fine, don't ever run startx though - bad things occur.23:53
ValidusOh? Well i still can't login.23:53
daftykinsValidus: are you able to view a TTY? i.e. Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login CLI?23:53
daftykinsyeah but running that may've worsened things, so bear in mind not to do so again23:53
mike_ippydaftykins: beginning to think it might be corrupted - either that or the device was in a RAID array and keeping the drive open.23:53
daftykinsmike_ippy: so the zero above would be helpful23:54
daftykinsi doubt any RAID remnants would cause issue23:54
mike_ippyreceived the same error during installation23:54
daftykinswhat, just now after the dd?23:54
Validusdaftykins: That's where I'm doing all this stuff, what's odd is that I couldn't get to it when running Ubuntu as normal and I have to go into the recovery menu to get there.23:54
ValidusAnd I wont touch startx again then23:54
daftykinsValidus: ah well, check your home path for any files not owned by you. "ls -al ~/"23:55
ValidusSo I chowned my whole home path23:55
daftykinshate it when people do the shotgun approach =|23:55
daftykinsyou don't even know now whether that was the issue!23:55
Validusit seemed to be the best solution from stack overflow.23:56
daftykinsugh, nevermind23:56
daftykinsso now restart lightdm and try logging in again23:56
ValidusSo I have had to boot into my windows partition to chat to you guys, so I was just seeing if you had any guidence.23:57
ValidusIs that the best plan?23:57
daftykinsoh so you weren't actually doing what i was suggesting?23:57
Validuswhat do you mean?23:57
daftykinswell had you already done the chown previously?23:57
daftykinsso you didn't do it just now...23:58
daftykinsboot it up and test the guest session, see whether that's normal23:58
ValidusI can't get into that either23:58
ValidusWell I couldn't last boot anyway23:58
mike_ippydaftykins: based on what I'm reading in GParted it seems like I cannot format this drive no matter what23:58
daftykinsmike_ippy: why use gparted? dd should've been enough to show whether it's writing to the drive at all23:58
daftykinsValidus: sounds like a graphics driver issue then perhaps23:59
Validusyeah that's why I installed the nvidia driver using their site guide but that didn't seem to help.23:59
mike_ippydaftykins: dd ran with no errors (at least none that i could tell)23:59
daftykinsValidus: you shouldn't have installed from their site really.23:59
ValidusI installed their closed source driver using the guide from their site.23:59

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