[00:01] <kohta_hirano> hola
[00:01] <artois> hi
[00:02] <kohta_hirano> algun chileno
[00:02] <daftykins> english only.
[00:02] <kohta_hirano> ohhh bye bye
[00:06] <sgg> what does this error mean in package manager:
[00:06] <sgg> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[00:07] <daftykins> sounds like corrupt package lists / tried to add a non-legitimate PPA
[00:08] <sgg> What do I do about it?
[00:08] <daftykins> sgg: well show a pastebin of "sudo apt-get update" first.
[00:08] <daftykins> it's tough to tell what you're talking about without evidence
[00:09] <sgg> hang on will I try.
[00:09] <dogweather> Anyone hear anything about Swift language on Ubuntu?
[00:11] <tpanmajia> use this ppa: ppa:swift-core/ppa
[00:11] <Guest70666> Can anyone help me restore GRUB2 after it went kaptu apparently from booting into windows
[00:11] <daftykins> !grub
[00:11] <dogweather> @tpanmajia thanks! I hadn't heard about that
[00:11] <daftykins> just booting windows won't kill it
[00:11] <daftykins> Guest70666: was it Windows 8/10 ?
[00:12] <tpanmajia> dogweather: you're welcome
[00:13] <dogweather> tpanmajia: Ah hah, that's swift the datastore. I'm looking for rumors on Swift the new language by Apple
[00:14] <Guest70666> daftykins: it is 8
[00:14] <Guest70666> daftykins: my system is about 2 years old with uefi
[00:14] <wafflejock> dogweather, you may want to try #swift-lang
[00:14] <daftykins> Guest70666: enter your EFI setup and change the boot device to be the hard disk or SSD and not 'Windows Boot Manager', that's the common issue
[00:14] <dogweather> yeah, will do. Apple promised a Linux/open-source release in the fall.
[00:15] <harushimo> is there a way to upgrade vagrant on ubuntu?
[00:15] <harushimo> I'm running it on a vm
[00:15] <sgg> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/6yrPHuZN
[00:15] <Guest70666> daftykins: I don't uderstand the EFI setup, where would I find that?
[00:16] <dogweather> harushimo: i didn't think you could run vagrant on a vm
[00:16] <daftykins> Guest70666: pressing delete, F10, F2... any number of keys on power on. it really depends on the make and model of your device
[00:16] <wafflejock> harushimo, not clear what you're trying to upgrade
[00:16] <harushimo> I have ubuntu server running on vbox
[00:16] <daftykins> !info vagrant
[00:16] <harushimo> I installed vagrant through apt-get
[00:16] <harushimo> I want to upgrade to 1.6
[00:16] <harushimo> I want to upgrade that 1.6
[00:17] <harushimo> i'm trying to install cloud foundry
[00:17] <Guest70666> daftykins: gotcha, enter the "bios" on startup
[00:17] <wafflejock> yeah looks like 1.6 is in the repo if you're on vivid
[00:17] <harushimo> using bosh lite
[00:17] <daftykins> Guest70666: same thing. BIOS.
[00:17] <daftykins> you're just splitting hairs though.
[00:17] <daftykins> sgg: the pastebin needs to be one that shows the issue, also - that paste includes an error saying that you had another package manager open
[00:17] <Guest70666> daftykins: I do have it now that it has a time delay to press esc and then I can select Ubuntu, but when I do it dumps me to grub rescue
[00:18] <harushimo> I need to have the current version of vagrant
[00:18] <daftykins> harushimo: time to look for a PPA then
[00:19] <meatie> or you could visit the website.
[00:19] <harushimo> that is what I thought
[00:19] <harushimo> thank you
[00:19] <daftykins> if you thought it why did you come here?
[00:19] <meatie> http://www.vagrantup.com/downloads.html
[00:19] <meatie> 2 second google
[00:19] <meatie> :P
[00:19] <Guest70666> daftykins: to clarify, on boot I have a time delay that I can press esc to enter a boot, but from those options I select Ubuntu and that would usually boot my system, now it just dumps out the grub rescue
[00:20] <daftykins> Guest70666: check the setting suggested regardless
[00:20] <Guest70666> ok
[00:20] <Guest70666> daftykins: will do
[00:20] <sgg> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/G6RRq4Vv
[00:21] <daftykins> sgg: which ubuntu are you on?
[00:21] <daftykins> version.
[00:22] <sgg> 14 04 LTS
[00:22] <daftykins> sgg: ok, see the second error line? it says you have a PPA for steam added for the old precise version, aka 12.04
[00:23] <daftykins> sgg: try this first, "sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/repo.steam* "
[00:23] <daftykins> sgg: then "sudo apt-get update" fresh - but you mostly want to delete that repo.
[00:23] <daftykins> go into your software and sources program under settings to find and disable, or better yet...
[00:23] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[00:24] <sgg> daftykins: trying with package manager to remove
[00:25] <tommycannady> hi
[00:25] <daftykins> hi
[00:25] <tommycannady> =) ... is there something special i need to do to make a bootable image ?
[00:26] <tommycannady> ./iso/.
[00:26] <tommycannady> of ubuntu to install i mean
[00:26] <daftykins> 1) what did you download? 2) what OS are you on? 3) is the flash drive plugged in?
[00:27] <tommycannady> I'm trying to make a dvd rw of ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:27] <daftykins> you mean - an actual optical disc?
[00:27] <tommycannady> yeah
[00:27] <tommycannady> I'm on windows 7 ultimate atm
[00:27] <daftykins> you need to burn the ISO with a proper image capable program, grab yourself imgburn.com - but beware the installer has malware
[00:27] <daftykins> or, might do.
[00:28] <daftykins> flash drive would've been _way_ better
[00:28] <sgg> daftykins: Thank you so much for you advice.  We disabled steam in the pkg manager and ran it again and works!!!!!
[00:28] <daftykins> sgg: ;)
[00:30] <tommycannady> thanks daft monk
[00:30] <daftykins> err
[00:30] <daftykins> wat.
[00:31] <__amine__> Hello, When I try to boot from a DVD of 64bit Ubuntu, after I choose to boot from DVD in the splash screen that appears, It seems that everything is frozen and only the DVD turns in the reader, I've wait for 15min without any result, is this normal?
[00:31] <wileee> !nomodeset | __amine__
[00:31] <tommycannady> I wish i could help : )
[00:31] <tommycannady> maybe one year
[00:31] <daftykins> __amine__: run the 'test disc for defects' option
[00:32] <wileee> __amine__, could be a driver issue as nomodeset would generally work, could be a bad burn or download, you can check the sums
[00:32] <wileee> +1 defects
[00:32] <__amine__> wileee : for the sum it's ok
[00:33] <wileee> __amine__, One of at least 3 comments I addressed
[00:34] <__amine__> ubottu : After choosing boot from DVD, I don't gat a black screne, but only the frozen splash screen
[00:35] <NotTheIlluminati> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°), ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ, ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°). ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o), ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ -, ( ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °) , ( ͡ ͡° ͡° ʖ ͡° ͡°). (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °), (ʖ ͜° ͜ʖ)
[00:35] <Koyaanis> (ʖ ͜° ͜ʖ)
[00:36] <tpanmajia> __amine__: reboot and try again
[00:36] <__amine__> tpanmajia : I do it more than 5 times
[00:37] <tpanmajia> oh
[00:37] <tpanmajia> what OS? versio
[00:37] <tpanmajia> n?
[00:38] <wileee> tpanmajia, Tis is ubuntu support, this user was given fair options, we might let them try those.
[00:38] <__amine__> tpanmajia : CAELinux 2013 64bit
[00:39] <__amine__> tpanmajia : based on xubuntu 12.04
[00:39] <wileee> __amine__, Not supported, find the right channel
[00:39] <tpanmajia> This is not ubuntu. Go to ##linux
[00:39] <tpanmajia> ob
[00:39] <tpanmajia> oh
[00:40] <__amine__> wileee : this is an Ubuntu problem. They only pre-Install  engineering software
[00:40] <daftykins> well, it is #ubuntu
[00:40] <daftykins> :>
[00:40] <daftykins> __amine__: sorry, not allowed here.
[00:40] <wileee> __amine__, Not in a derivative it is not. ;)
[00:41] <tpanmajia> is derivative allowed here?
[00:41] <wileee> no
[00:42] <navetz> can someone please help me fix the speed of my ubuntu launcher. I swear it takes like 10 seconds to load anything when i type it into the search bar
[00:44] <tommycannady> do i need to use any special options in imgburn ? Oo
[00:45] <daftykins> tommycannady: keep verify ticked, maybe turn off the sounds so you don't hear an annoying jingle when it finishes...
[00:50] <wafflejock> navetz, turn off the filters/scopes you don't want it to search
[00:50] <wafflejock> navetz, you can also disable the blur using the unity-tweak tool I'm pretty sure
[00:50] <navetz> wafflej0ck, awesome i'll look into it, thanks
[00:50] <wafflejock> navetz, yeah the scopes/filters you should be able to disable right in the dash (think its bottom right area)
[00:52] <navetz> wafflej0ck, I can change the filters, but everytime i search it attempts to search everything.
[01:07] <macskay> Hi guys, I've just re-installed my ubuntu and removed all the applications I don't want and of course all the ones i want. Is there an opportunity to take the current state of my ubuntu and turn into a distro, which I can just install everytime I want to format my machine. That would be way more convenient than removing/nstalling unwanted/wanted software each time I setup a new ubuntu.
[01:07]  * uberius Saluda a tod@s...
[01:08] <tpanmajia> maybe distro-creator?
[01:09] <daftykins> macskay: don't think so. why not store a disk image with clonezilla?
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | macskay or this
[01:10] <macskay> hm alright, i just found remastersys,might that work too?
[01:10] <cimbakahn> Are these 6 red entries anything to worry about ----> http://imgur.com/t79JIZ5
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: bleachbit always gives errors, no sweat mate
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> macskay: a clean ubuntu install only takes 30min, try make a collection of your fav debs
[01:14] <horselover>                     ,;;'(
[01:14] <horselover>            __       ,;;'   \
[01:14] <horselover>            __       ,;;'   \
[01:14] <horselover>            __       ,;;'   \
[01:14] <horselover>            __       ,;;'   \
[01:14] <horselover>            __       ,;;'   \
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> !ops | horselover
[01:15]  * phunyguy looks up
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: he's been spamming channel for few days now
[01:16] <phunyguy> not really much we can do about it/.
[01:16] <phunyguy> sorry :(
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> no sweat :p
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> tnx anyway
[01:16] <phunyguy> different IPs, etc
[01:16] <phunyguy> Drone usually catches it before it gets bad
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: what about a nickban? comes back with horselover
[01:19] <phunyguy> naah useless ban.  They will just change nicks.
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> kk
[01:19] <phunyguy> actually been going on a while now.
[01:26] <sonicx> ok is lubuntu 14.10 and 12  still geting update?
[01:27] <lotuspsychje> !14.10 | sonicx
[01:27] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: 12.04 still alive, see topic for supported versions
[01:28] <sonicx> is there a os that is as low  as 12.04
[01:29] <daftykins> 'as low' ? what does that mean
[01:30] <sonicx> requirements
[01:30] <daftykins> it's the DE that's the kicker, not the version so much
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: you need a lightweight flavor?
[01:30] <daftykins> lubuntu 14.04 would do you fine.
[01:31] <sonicx> ok but the updates ended right?
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: for 14.10 yes
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: is this the version you have installed right now?
[01:32] <sonicx> ya i tryed kubuntu but not working so good
[01:33] <sonicx> to slow
[01:33] <Artemis3v> sonicx, how much ram?
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: try what daftykins sugested lubuntu 14.04 fresh install
[01:33] <sonicx> 2gb
[01:33] <Artemis3v> sonicx, and what video?
[01:33] <sonicx> cpu speed 2.93GHZ
[01:34] <sonicx> on bored video 8m
[01:34] <Artemis3v> but no discrete, nvidia or such?
[01:34] <sonicx> no
[01:34] <Artemis3v> 2gb should not be too slow
[01:34] <Artemis3v> sonicx, do try lubuntu/xubuntu if you want, i'd say 32bit, but stick to lts
[01:35] <Artemis3v> sonicx, i'm guessing the bottleneck is your video
[01:36] <sonicx> xubunto seem to run ok then it wan't boom like had the power to do more but did not use or something like that
[01:36] <Artemis3v> sonicx, and perhaps unity is way too heavy for an onboard with 8m ram
[01:39] <sonicx> so what do I do ?
[01:40] <daftykins> *xubuntu
[01:40] <cimbakahn> lotuspsychje: Thank you!
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: no prob, try also installing preload if you like system clean/tweaks
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | cimbakahn
[01:43] <sonicx> brb I got some old viedo cards
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[01:45] <cimbakahn> I am trying to keep my OS as lite as possible.
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: good choice
[01:46] <daftykins> *light
[01:58] <hp_> hi
[01:58] <cimbakahn> lotuspsychje: I was told that i should leave it alone.  Especially since those 6 red entries have been there a very long time.
[01:58] <hp_> how can i install this file quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing
[01:59] <hp_> i am trying to upgrade from 12.04lts to 14.04lts but missing this file
[01:59] <johnny_> maybe 14.10?
[02:01] <hp_> i want to upgrade my 12.04lts
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> johnny_: 14.10 is end of life
[02:01] <daftykins> hp_: you're attempting to tell your OS to upgrade to 12.10 which was quantal, you've messed up
[02:01] <daftykins> you want an LTS -> LTS upgrade
[02:01] <daftykins> or better yet, just install 14.04 clean
[02:02] <xangua> hp_: I'm guessing you have a quantal repository enabled which you shouldn't, but that's all I can do unless you share with us your actual message(s) error
[02:02] <xangua> !paste
[02:02] <hp_> 14.04lts?
[02:02] <LarryB> Hello all
[02:02] <LarryB> quick question:
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> LarryB: welcome
[02:02] <LarryB> ty.
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> hp_: yes
[02:03] <hp_> xangua, it is a bit list of commands, how can i send these for you to see?
[02:03] <LarryB> when an install steps asks you to setup mysql database and insert schema with php includes/update/update.php
[02:03] <LarryB> and i get an error....
[02:03] <hp_> not bit i meant big list
[02:03] <LarryB> access denied for user  (using password=yes)
[02:03] <LarryB> how do I get past this
[02:04] <LarryB> im thinking maybe I need to find out where to put my user as a sqlserver permissions
[02:04] <LarryB> but not sure where to do this in Ubuntu.  Mint let me in control panel
[02:04] <hp_> Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)
[02:04] <hp_> WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing
[02:04] <hp_> Failed to fetch
[02:04] <hp_> Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem.
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> LarryB: maybe the #mysql guys know this?
[02:05] <LarryB> try sudo and command hp_ ?
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> hp_: try what daftykins sugested: clean install 14.04
[02:05] <daftykins> hp_: please don't paste more random things, i already said what's up :)
[02:05] <hp_> can i do it through the terminal?
[02:06] <daftykins> "it" ?
[02:06] <bangawking> hello ubuntu . .
[02:06] <hp_> the 14.04lts version
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: welcome, what can we do for you?
[02:07] <daftykins> hp_: what kind of system is it?
[02:07] <hp_> 32bit
[02:07] <daftykins> no, that's the architecture
[02:08] <daftykins> laptop/desktop/VM/VPS/
[02:08] <hp_> Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz × 2
[02:08] <bangawking> i have a problem with the wifi icon not showing up on the system bar at the upper right . . can you help me please? :)
[02:08] <locksmith2> Hey
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: wifi chipset and ubuntu version,?
[02:09] <daftykins> hp_: still not the right info
[02:09] <daftykins> but lets guess desktop
[02:09] <daftykins> hp_: download the 14.04 ISO
[02:09] <hp_> yes a PC
[02:09] <bangawking> wifi is working  . . its just that the wifi Icon is not displayed . . so it gives me a hard time switching between the wifi AP's
[02:09] <daftykins> a PC can be laptop AND desktop
[02:09] <bangawking> ubuntu 14.04
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: hmm weird indeed, might be nm-applet search your logs perhaps, syslog and dmesg
[02:10] <xangua> bangawking: did you remove gnome network manager? Tried to reset unity?
[02:11] <bangawking> I just did an apt-upgrade . . . how do I reset unity? . .
[02:11]  * LarryB sends his message. Thanks all, I got it figured
[02:11] <bangawking> * apt-get upgrade
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: why do you wann reset unity after upgrade?
[02:12] <garlicmollymalon> hello there, I am at a new hotspot location and connect button in wi-fi password window is greyed. in system settings> network I dont see anything changed. why could this happen or how can I enable it again?
[02:13] <bangawking> xangua asked if i have reset the unity  . . would re-installing the ubuntu unity fix this?
[02:13] <LarryB>  /part
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: when have this been started, did it work before?
[02:16] <bangawking> lotuspsychje: maybe like 3 weeks ago . . the icon was working fine until i updated the whole system.
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: check your syslog and dmesg, anything related to wifi and nm-manager
[02:17] <sonicx> the computer sead ok to the video card but linux said "no no no this will not do "  lol oo well
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: explain what you tryed to do?
[02:19] <sonicx> I had some old viseo cards but linux did not like it
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: just install lubuntu 14.04 on your 8mb onboard video
[02:19] <sonicx> ok
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> bangawking: you can browse logs with the log viewer icon
[02:22] <sonicx> ok after installing it what will I do for update like protection
[02:23] <daftykins> !av
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> sonicx: install updates
[02:26] <holms> I have problem with upstart script it seems to be stuck. not realeasing tty? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11977248/ anybody had this?
[02:28] <locksmith2> Host: host1-OS: Linux 3.16.0-23-generic/x86_64-Distro: Ubuntu 14.10-CPU: 8 x Intel Core i7-2860QM (921.093 MHz)-Processes: 270-Uptime: 7d 22h 3m-Users: 4-Load Average: 0.53-Memory Usage: 13376.2MB/15960.65MB (80.68%)-Disk Usage: 770.95GB/1617.12GB (47.67%)
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !eol | locksmith2
[02:28] <locksmith2> macbook pro
[02:30] <holms> where to ask server questions of ubuntu?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> !server | holms
[02:31] <holms> ggratefull
[02:31] <puter> Hi all was just wondering how to apply some xrandr settings system wide at boot rather then per-user at login with .xprofile any ideas anyone?
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> puter: you have much users?
[02:32] <locksmith2> is there a channel about smoking marijuana on freenode?
[02:32] <asd> ...
[02:33] <asd> locksmith2 not the channel...
[02:33] <puter> Dang it! just after I type here I figure out the correct keyword to get the sort of response I am looking for from the search enginee!
[02:36] <puter> Well yes lotuspsychje I see your point but I just wanted to prevent any hoohar if someone loged in to the guest accout by mistake, you know how people just expect things to work?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> puter: you can disable guest account if you like :p
[02:37] <daftykins> puter: so right now you're setting a correct display setup via a scripted xrandr call on login?
[03:00] <hp_> hi
[03:01] <hp_> i want to create a USB stick with 14.04lts, i only have on my PC 12.04lts but i see the usb creators are in .exe
[03:01] <hp_> what usb creator program i can use with ubuntu 12.04lts to create a 14.04lts?
[03:02] <wileee> hp_, is there an app called startup disk creator on 12.04?
[03:03] <hp_> yes
[03:03] <auk> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[03:03] <wileee> hp_, it's for ubuntu loading usb's
[03:04] <hp_> i only will need to transfer the iso 14.04lts?
[03:04] <wileee> hp_, you link the iso and the usb in the app and hit enter and like magic you have a bootable usb
[03:05] <hp_> cool!
[03:05] <wileee> it is really, there are others try it first
[03:05] <hp_> i am still download 14.04lts, the connection a bit slow today.
[03:05] <hp_> downloading
[03:06] <wileee> hp_, Good, were here if needed. ;)
[03:06] <hp_> thank you
[03:08] <wileee> hp_, No problem, enjoy.
[03:29] <pavan> hi der
[03:47] <agent_white> Evenin'
[03:47] <cfhowlett> sez u.  not even non yet!
[03:49] <agent_white> Hahah :) How goes it, cfhowlett?
[03:49] <ashutosh> g
[03:50] <cfhowlett> Agent_Smith_BR, another day in the rat race.  I'm not first.  I hate the view.
[03:54] <Fudge> anyone know why gnome would not log in but unity will, any new user wont log into gnome and the xsessions error is not much help
[04:02] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Fair enough. I've got some late-night coffee in me! *cracks fingers*
[04:03] <cfhowlett> agent_white, cool.  ext question is *alllllll* yours.  :)
[04:04] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Good deal :D
[04:05] <Karneev> hi everybody. can anyone tell me how to put nickname into te text line by double clicking in konversation? oh, and excuse my bad english..
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !tab | Karneev
[04:08] <agent_white> cfhowlett: This mean I have to take the next two? :(
[04:08] <Karneev> cfhowlett: thx
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Hey I waited agent_white
[04:08] <cfhowlett> so yeah > next 2
[04:09] <Karneev> ubottu: yeap, i know, but its easier to use mouse imho
[04:09] <Karneev> ok ok, got it
[04:09] <Karneev> thx anyway
[04:09] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Haha you're on the ball. TIL another ubottu command.
[04:14] <sonicx> ? can yumi miss up a older versionof linux
[04:16] <sonicx> version of
[04:52] <CooloutAC> anyone use qemu-kvm?   how the heck do I restart the libvirtd service?
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> CooloutAC: wouldn't service libvirt-bin restart do it?
[04:54] <Kartook> #centos-social
[04:54] <CooloutAC> tonyyarusso: tks man
[04:54] <CooloutAC> i didn't have the -bin part
[04:58] <CooloutAC> I can't get sound in a kvm guest its driving me insane right now
[04:59] <CooloutAC> I'm ready to throw it in the trash can and install vbox
[05:02] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: tab complete is your friend
[05:02] <CooloutAC> tgm4883: what?
[05:02] <tgm4883> !tab | CooloutAC
[05:03] <CooloutAC> tgm4883: when did I say someones nick wrong?
[05:03] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: it also works for things like libvirt-bin
[05:03] <CooloutAC> oh
[05:08] <CooloutAC> tgm4883: it actually doesn't work for libvirt-bin
[05:13] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: are you logged in as root?
[05:13] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: cause it works for me here
[05:14] <CooloutAC> when there is a dash it doesn't work
[05:14] <CooloutAC> are u logged into my computer?
[05:16] <tgm4883> no?
[05:16] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: I don't know what you mean it doesn't work when there is a dash. I just tried it for libvirt-bin
[05:16] <CooloutAC> doesn't work
[05:17] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: are you logged in as root?
[05:17] <CooloutAC> type libvirt press tab,   doesn't show anything with -bin
[05:17] <CooloutAC> type the dash,  type tab,   doesn't cmoplete
[05:17] <CooloutAC> type -b  doesn't complete
[05:17] <CooloutAC> wtf are you talking about?
[05:18] <CooloutAC> hacking piece of shit
[05:18] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: err, it's a service. Do 'sudo service libvir<tab>'
[05:18] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: ???
[05:18] <CooloutAC> wtf dont' you understand
[05:18] <CooloutAC> stop spying on people
[05:18] <CooloutAC> it doesn't work
[05:19] <CooloutAC> you fkd up and goofed
[05:19] <CooloutAC> i hope you spy on the wrong guy one day,  and you get murdered
[05:19] <tgm4883> CooloutAC: well thanks for the fun kiddo, but I think it's time you go take your meds
[05:19] <tgm4883> !ohmy
[05:19] <CooloutAC> ya ok....
[05:19] <CooloutAC> you tell me tab for names,  when i didn't spell anyones name wrong
[05:20] <CooloutAC> then you give me this bs about ilbvirt,  when it won't even work for that
[05:20] <CooloutAC> you crack me up man
[05:20] <CooloutAC> what you did was see me typed a command wrong on my box
[05:20] <CooloutAC> you fk
[05:21] <Guest10419> hi
[05:22] <baizon> hi Guest10419
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> CooloutAC: Wishing for people to be murdered is not appropriate for this channel.  (Also, he's right.)
[05:27] <CooloutAC> i typed your name fine
[05:28] <CooloutAC> hes probably logged into my box and saw me type a command wrong
[05:28] <CooloutAC> now hes trying to play it off about libvirt
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> He's not logged into your system....  But libvirt-bin will autocomplete.
[05:28] <CooloutAC> not as root
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Yes it will.
[05:29] <CooloutAC> but he pasted me stuff about names until i questions him what name i typed wrong
[05:29] <CooloutAC> no it won't
[05:29] <baizon> !admin
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> You can be wrong as much as you like, but you're the one who wanted help, sooooo....
[05:29] <redrum187> Is anyone available to help with a dual boot install problem?
[05:29] <CooloutAC> i don't need people spying on me
[05:29] <baizon> guys, please stop. This is a support channel, if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:29] <CooloutAC> i hope he gets hit by a car
[05:30] <Comstock> ...
[05:30] <Satellite> hidden op, nice
[05:30] <Comstock> hidden op is deadliest op
[05:30] <Satellite> anyone running Ubuntu on a MacBook Air?
[05:30]  * tonyyarusso sighs
[05:30] <wileee> nobodies hidden
[05:30] <baizon> thank you tonyyarusso
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> Satellite: No, but I used to run it on a MacBook Pro, if that at all helps.  Was several releases ago though.
[05:31] <redrum187> I just installed ubuntu but it won't show up in the boot menu, and it boots straight to windows.
[05:31] <Satellite> I'm just wondering how different the battery life is between Ubuntu and OSX on a MacBook
[05:31] <baizon> redrum187: then you havent installed grub properly
[05:32] <DalekSec> tonyyarusso, tgm4883: In *dash* tab complete won't work with that, correct.  $ dash<enter>  then  $ sudo service libv<tab>
[05:32] <redrum187> baizon: That makes sense, but I followed the dialog instructions.
[05:32] <baizon> DalekSec: dash isnt ment to do this, open a terminal and then use it
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> Satellite: Significant, but getting better all the time.  I don't think I can give you any hard numbers, but it will still be longer than most non-Mac laptops.
[05:32] <baizon> redrum187: maybe you did install it in the wrong place
[05:32] <DalekSec> baizon: Not my point, but anywho.
[05:32] <tgm4883> DalekSec: dash doesn't auto-complete?
[05:33] <baizon> tgm4883: not in the search line, in the results
[05:33] <redrum187> Hm. How do I determine if that is the case?
[05:33] <DalekSec> tgm4883: It's a pretty basic one.
[05:33] <tgm4883> DalekSec: why would anyone want to use that.....
[05:33] <Satellite> tonyyarusso: Do you remember how you did the install? Did you use refit or did you just format the HD and install it normally?
[05:33] <baizon> redrum187: run gparted and check it, or if you want it in cmd, use fdisk
[05:33] <redrum187> I can run gparted from windows?
[05:33] <redrum187> er, nvm
[05:33] <redrum187> I understand now.
[05:34] <baizon> redrum187: redrhttp://gparted.org/livecd.php
[05:34] <DalekSec> tgm4883: /bin/sh links to dash, so to experiment I suppose (nice way to see how a script would work if you don't have #!/bin/bash at the header)
[05:34] <baizon> sorry, wrong url
[05:34] <wileee> redrum187, This W8?
[05:34] <redrum187> wileee: yes
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Satellite: I *think* I just installed like any other dual-boot.  There was a Mac-specific ISO though.
[05:35] <Satellite> Gotcha, thanks tonyyarusso
[05:35] <wileee> redrum187, Have you looked at the UEFI wiki, if needed?
[05:35] <redrum187> wileee: windows 8.1 actually
[05:35] <Satellite> I believe there isn't a Mac-specific ISO anymore because Ubuntu supports UEFI now
[05:35] <redrum187> wileee: I haven't looked at the wiki
[05:35] <tgm4883> DalekSec: weird, I just ssh'd into my server to check it before telling the guy and it worked for me
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Sounds right
[05:35]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[05:35] <Satellite> I'm just debating whether I'm better off with Ubuntu or OSX
[05:36] <Satellite> tough decision
[05:36] <DalekSec> tgm4883: because you're sane and use bash as a login shell.
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> Satellite: Both!
[05:36] <wileee> redrum187, THis your install or a manufacturers of windows?
[05:36] <Satellite> tonyyarusso: I'd love to dual-boot but it's only a 128gb SSD
[05:36] <redrum187> wileee: Manufacturer install
[05:36] <tgm4883> DalekSec: ah yes, that is why :)
[05:36] <tgm4883> DalekSec: which is what gets setup by default in ubuntu
[05:37] <DalekSec> Yep.
[05:37] <wileee> !uefi | redrum187 More than likely you have this setup.
[05:37] <redrum187> ubottu: It showed up as UEFI when I was installing.  I'll look at the link though.  Thank you.
[05:37] <wileee> redrum187, You may have installed fine but this is a great reference.
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> Satellite: Well, you only need a couple gig for Ubuntu - nbd.
[05:38] <baizon> yeah, i always disable uefi on my systems
[05:38] <redrum187> baizon: why is that?
[05:39] <baizon> redrum187: because its windows stuff. Nothing useful from it
[05:39] <harshadura> hi
[05:39] <baizon> i only had trouble with uefi
[05:39] <redrum187> baizon: Hm.  I didn't think it was windows specific.
[05:39] <wileee> baizon, efi gpt is not windows stuff and highly preferred.
[05:40] <Satellite> Does Ubuntu support Thunderbolt yet?
[05:40] <Satellite> I guess I could google that
[05:52] <redrum187> wileee: I rebooted from a livedisk and I have run gparted
[05:54] <redrum187> baizon: are you still online?
[05:54] <redrum187> Gparted says I have 8 partitions
[05:54] <redrum187> is that normal?
[05:57] <baizon> redrum187: the best thing would be to make a screenshot and post it
[05:57] <HelmedHorror> Hi, I'm very confused about the Ubuntu wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com). This looks nothing like any wiki I've ever seen. There's no categories, no sidebar, no directory or index of any sort whatsoever, no collection of popular articles, no history or discussion tabs, and searching for something as simple as "settings" brings back tangential results...
[05:59] <redrum187> http://i.imgur.com/vmfjObR.png
[05:59] <redrum187> baizon: does that work?
[06:00] <redrum187> I'm guessing the black unknown partition with a a red exclaimation point is bad...
[06:04] <redrum187> can anyone check out my screenshot to help me understand? Pretty please?
[06:05] <Comstock> that is a windows partition
[06:06] <redrum187> It wouldn't show up as NTFS?
[06:06] <Seven_Six_Two> redrum187, it's not for windows users. it's for the OS
[06:06] <Comstock> msftres -- This flag means "Microsoft reserved." It's used as "scratch space" by certain Microsoft tools, so it should not be deleted or re-purposed unless you're deleting Windows.
[06:07] <megamansec> Hi. I have a computer whose psu failed, and I've replaced the PSU. However, when I plug in the harddrive I was using when it failed into the now-repaired box, the system reboots just after I click enter in the grub bootloader. Other harddrives work, and the harddrive works in a different system. Is there some kernel-level checks that could prevent is from booting?
[06:07] <redrum187> I saw the msft part, didn't know how it was significant though.  Ok.  Thanks.  Is there enough information to explain why it boots straight to windows though?
[06:09] <cos77> hola
[06:09] <ziz15> megamansec: try repair boot loader with a live iso and install boot-repair package ubuntu has a page with information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:10] <megamansec> Alright. I find it strange that it boots on a different computer though
[06:11] <cos77> hello somebody can help me about bash array in ubuntu system?
[06:14] <agent_white> cos77: What do you mean "bash array"?  Are you interested in programming in bash?
[06:16] <cos77> only a problem with i declare a array
[06:17] <cos77> Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[06:17] <cos77> array=("a" "b" "c")
[06:21] <megamansec> Strange.. fsck reports no problems, and it's only when I press enter to go into Ubuntu in the grub bootloader it just reboots..
[06:24] <megamansec> Even when I set up the harddrive as an external in the same machine.
[06:31] <patrick__> hi all
[06:33] <megamansec> Alright, a bit more info now. When attempting to boot into recovery mode, it gets to "loading initial ramdisk", then reboots.
[06:33] <EriC^^> megamansec: boot a live usb
[06:35] <megamansec> doing that now
[06:35] <megamansec> '?rescue a broken system'
[06:35] <megamansec> heh, that crashes the computer too. guess it's a hardware issue.
[06:36] <EriC^^> no just get a live session
[06:36] <EriC^^> try ubuntu
[06:36] <EriC^^> no
[06:37] <megamansec> this is a ubuntu-server, so there is no option for a live session/try ubuntu, as there is on ubuntu desktop. should I try an ubuntu desktop cd?
[06:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:42] <megamansec> alright I found one. give me a few minutes
[06:42] <redrum187> :( the ubuntu option still doesn't show up in bios
[06:44] <redrum187> does anyone have experience with dual boot issues?
[06:45] <EriC^^> what ubuntu option?
[06:46] <redrum187> EriC^^: if you are responding to me, I don't understand your question.
[06:47] <EriC^^> what ubuntu option in the bios are you talking about?
[06:48] <HelmedHorror> Hi, I'm very confused about the Ubuntu wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com). This looks nothing like any wiki I've ever seen. There's no categories, no sidebar, no directory or index of any sort whatsoever, no collection of popular articles, no history or discussion tabs, and searching for something as simple as "settings" brings back tangential results. It seems more like a welcome page with almost no content... what am I missing?
[06:48] <redrum187> I installed ubuntu 14.04 from a liveboot disk but it does not load grub, nor does the option to boot from the ubuntu partition show up in the bios.
[06:52] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok
[06:52] <EriC^^> so it boots to windows?
[06:52] <redrum187> Yes, and if I have the liveboot ready I can boot from there, but the native ubuntu partition does not show up in/load from bios
[06:53] <redrum187> If I load the liveboot and run Gparted, it looks "normal" (at least, what I think it should look like)
[06:53] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, boot a live usb
[06:54] <redrum187> EriC^^: alright, I can do that.  Then once I'm booted?
[06:54] <ObrienDave> or imgur a screenshot so we can see it
[06:54] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:56] <redrum187> what does that do?
[06:56] <ObrienDave> HelmedHorror, a wiki is a user editable database of information. it does NOT have to look like wikipedia. ROFLMAO
[06:56] <EriC^^> shows the partition table
[06:56] <redrum187> Alright, what do I do with that information?
[06:57] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link to it pastebinned
[06:57] <EriC^^> paste it here
[06:58] <HelmedHorror> ObrienDave: I understand that, but it doesn't have any information as far as I can tell. Why, for example, when I type in "settings" or "desktop" does it not bring me to that article?
[06:59] <HelmedHorror> Like, where ARE the articles?
[06:59] <HelmedHorror> I understand very well how wikis work.
[06:59] <redrum187> Alright, I need to reboot, but I will return.  Thank you.
[07:00] <EriC^^> ok
[07:00] <wileee> HelmedHorror, What kind of articles?
[07:01] <HelmedHorror> wileee: Everything... you know, about how to use Ubuntu, what the different settings do, the directories, the different versions, everything
[07:01] <HelmedHorror> the documentation... just, everything
[07:01] <HelmedHorror> am I misunderstanding the nature of the Ubuntu wiki?
[07:02] <wileee> HelmedHorror, Probably not exactly what you want but there is a manual, to some extent you have to be familiar and have good foo.
[07:02] <HelmedHorror> I was hoping to use the Wiki to get information on everything to do with Ubuntu. Is that not what it's for?
[07:02] <wileee> HelmedHorror, Everything really is it's linux, rather complex to have it all in one place.
[07:03] <HelmedHorror> wileee: But then what IS the wiki for?
[07:03] <HelmedHorror> if not "everything"
[07:03] <wileee> HelmedHorror, has a number of important links and a search engine, probably again a matter of needs and familiarity.
[07:04] <wileee> HelmedHorror, I would agree there are more compacted setups arch for example
[07:04] <HelmedHorror> For example, why don't I see "Getting Started" or "FAQ about Ubuntu" or "Beginner's guide to Ubuntu" or anything? I mean no offense, but this is just a bizarre wiki in terms of software documentation
[07:04] <wileee> !manual
[07:05] <ikonia> if you want docs https://help.ubuntu.com is a good starting point
[07:05] <ikonia> especially as an introduction on how to use ubuntu
[07:05] <trijntje> HelmedHorror: ubuntu comes with its own documentation, just search for 'help' in the menu. The wiki is more technical documentation
[07:05] <ObrienDave> but it's not a wiki ;P
[07:05] <meatie> HelmedHorror, try reading a blog or howtoforge.
[07:05] <meatie> it might be easier to read for you
[07:05] <ikonia> do not use hottoforge
[07:05] <ikonia> it's terrible
[07:05] <HelmedHorror> Ah, okay, I thought the wiki itself was basically the full manual and documentation. Thanks for the link to help.ubuntu.com
[07:06] <meatie> it might give him some basic understanding.
[07:06] <ikonia> HelmedHorror: help.ubuntu.com should get you started and moving, then you can focus on specific topics
[07:06] <ikonia> meatie: it will give him bad information
[07:06] <HelmedHorror> ikonia: Yeah, it seems exactly what I was looking for, thanks again
[07:06] <ikonia> no porlbme
[07:06] <meatie> then listen to ikonia HelmedHorror
[07:06] <meatie> i prefer reading manuals
[07:06] <redrum187> EriC^^: I am rebooted in ubuntu with terminal open. Could you share the sudo parted -l command again?
[07:06] <meatie> or references myself
[07:07] <megamansec> welp, seems the motherboard is the computer. it won't boot at all now
[07:07] <megamansec> time to backup all the data just incase, too.
[07:07] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:08] <Waddup> is there a reason for files being corrupted on a running drive
[07:08] <agent_white> HelmedHorror: Good point. To get to the "how to install", from wiki.ubuntu.com, you have to click "Community", then go down to "Help and Information" to see links... personally, I found googling "ubuntu wiki installation" and clicking the first link, to be most helpful.
[07:09] <wileee> Waddup, Any number of reasons. Context?
[07:09] <agent_white> HelmedHorror: I guess, most wikis assume you have a specific task in mind and are able to search the specific text in a wiki via an outside search engine (ie - google).
[07:09] <redrum187> Alright, before I type it in, I just want to understand exactly what I'm doing.  "sudo" just runs the current command with administrator privileges correct? and wht does parted do?
[07:10] <wileee> redrum187, It just shows the partitioning setup. This channel is peer reviewed.
[07:10] <Waddup> well i have an ubuntu server 14.04 with 4 3TB WD Red setup in raid 0+1 and separated 1tb Regular for OS Drive.
[07:10] <agent_white> redrum187: `man parted` - "parted is a program to manipulate disk partitions..."
[07:10] <Waddup> now everytime i save from it after i close the file i save it becomes corrupted
[07:10] <Ben64> redrum187:    GNU Parted - a partition manipulation program, | is a pipe, puts the output to..... "netcat" which sends information to.... termbin.com:9999 which is a pastebin service
[07:10] <agent_white> redrum187: ... "parted... -l... lists partition layout on all block devices"
[07:11] <Jamesanaru> Hello, Im Running Elementary OS Freya. (Based off Ubuntu) And I need some help please!
[07:11] <agent_white> ^^ what Ben64 said.
[07:11] <ikonia> Jamesanaru: we don't support Elementary here, sorry
[07:11] <agent_white> Jamesanaru: We don't support elementary. Join their channel!
[07:11] <ikonia> Jamesanaru: there is an elementary support channel, try that
[07:11] <redrum187> wileee:  thank you, guys, I just wanted to be a little cautious using acommand I don't know.  I'll do it now
[07:11] <Ben64> redrum187: good practice
[07:11] <agent_white> #elementary is the channel
[07:11] <Jamesanaru> Excuse me? What is the channel?
[07:11] <agent_white> Jamesanaru: #elementary
[07:11] <Jamesanaru> Thanks!
[07:11] <agent_white> Mhm!
[07:11] <ObrienDave> redrum187, there's enough people here that if someone gives you really BAD information, others will correct it
[07:11] <Jamesanaru> Have a nice day!
[07:11] <agent_white> Jamesanaru: You too!
[07:12] <agent_white> ObrienDave: You described open-source in one line! ;P
[07:12] <dontpassgo> hey, is there a way i can mount an iso file to use a bootable drive for a different hdd?
[07:12] <Ben64> it never hurts to ask what a command will do
[07:12] <ObrienDave> agent_white, that's how i roll ;P
[07:12] <wileee> dontpassgo, with grub yes
[07:12] <dontpassgo> ok great thanks
[07:12] <redrum187> EriC^^: alright, ran successfully.  Returned: http://termbin.com/7bct
[07:12] <Ben64> many people get into trouble here by blindly following commands on random websites
[07:12] <wileee> dontpassgo, YOu want a link?
[07:13] <dontpassgo> wileee: that would be great, thanks
[07:13] <Waddup> wileee : well i have an ubuntu server 14.04 with 4 3TB WD Red setup in raid 0+1 and separated 1tb Regular for OS Drive. now everytime i save from it after i close the file i save it becomes corrupted
[07:13] <Jamesanaru> Oh, I do understand you dont support Elementary OS here. But, It does have to do with the Linux GRUB.
[07:13] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, my guess is that you have a hardcoded bios
[07:14] <wileee> dontpassgo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot  enjoy I use the grml portion
[07:14] <agent_white> Jamesanaru: Instead, just ask your issue!
[07:14] <EriC^^> redrum187: you can switch the efi files so it boots ubuntu instead of windows and you get grub and boot whatever
[07:14] <dontpassgo> wileee: thanks so much :D have a great morning/day
[07:14] <ikonia> agent_white: no don't
[07:14] <ikonia> we don't support elementary here
[07:14] <agent_white> ikonia: Oh... okey :(
[07:14] <ikonia> Jamesanaru: use the elementary suport channel please.
[07:14] <EriC^^> redrum187: which laptop is it?
[07:14] <wileee> Waddup, I have never done raid but that info is helpful.
[07:14] <Jamesanaru> Oh, sorry.
[07:14] <ikonia> no problem
[07:15] <wileee> dontpassgo, you as well.
[07:15] <agent_white> ikonia: Sorry about that. Noted that I will forward folks in the future.
[07:15] <ikonia> agent_white: not a problem
[07:15] <Waddup> wilee:i was thinking maybe one of the drives have bad sector or maybe all of em does
[07:19] <wileee> Waddup, okay, I don't guess is all, and under that scenario have no idea how to check and be sure.
[07:19] <Waddup> yeah thanks anyway
[07:19] <redrum187> EriC^^:  I had to step away for a moment, I should have said afk
[07:19] <wileee> I'm protecting you, from me. ;)
[07:19] <EriC^^> redrum187: np
[07:19] <redrum187> I have an asus W8.1
[07:19] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok
[07:20] <EriC^^> redrum187: type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[07:20] <EriC^^> let's get this party started..
[07:20] <redrum187> Ugh, I sound so computer illiterate, but what other info do you need as far as "which laptop is it?"
[07:20] <EriC^^> :P
[07:20] <redrum187> alright, I know what most of that does, lol
[07:20] <EriC^^> nothing
[07:20] <redrum187> alright, it spun my hardrive and finished successfully
[07:21] <ObrienDave> redrum187, not to worry, we ALL started at sometime :)
[07:21] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[07:21] <redrum187> I thought sda1 was already mounted? or do I not understand that command?
[07:22] <EriC^^> sda1 is the efi partition
[07:22] <EriC^^> you're in the live usb right?
[07:22] <redrum187> that is correct
[07:23] <EriC^^> ok, it shouldn't be mounted
[07:23] <redrum187> alright "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi" complete
[07:24] <redrum187> (unrelated) when do you have to type your password to execute a command?  is that with su?  Maybe I don't understand the difference between su and sudo.
[07:24] <redrum187> or does su raise the current user to admin level?
[07:25] <winter_lilly246> Hello!
[07:26] <vezo> helo!
[07:27] <ObrienDave> !root | redrum187 not exactly the right answer
[07:27] <megamansec> alright so I was wrong. It was just one ramstick preventing it from even starting. Still can't get past the ramdisk though. The livecd doesn't work, and just does the same thing. It reboots when loading ramdisk.
[07:27] <winter_lilly246> I know this may sound weird but, I am on Elementary OS. Thing is, I want to switch from Elementary OS to Ubuntu. But, I have no clue how to.
[07:27] <vezo> i'm on a live cd
[07:27] <redrum187> thank you ubottu
[07:28] <xangua> Install Ubuntu the same way you installed elementary winter_lilly246
[07:28] <ObrienDave> LOL ubottu is a bot ;P
[07:28] <vezo> what do u mean a bot?
[07:28] <ObrienDave> roBOT
[07:29] <vezo> ok but how????
[07:29] <winter_lilly246> Is there a risk of rendering my computer useless?
[07:29] <ObrienDave> as in, computer script
[07:29] <ikonia> winter_lilly246: no
[07:29] <vezo> ok ok
[07:29] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok
[07:29] <ikonia> winter_lilly246: it's just an install the same as elemntary
[07:29] <megamansec> ah yep, i fixed it..
[07:29] <EriC^^> redrum187: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[07:29] <EriC^^> type the whole line
[07:29] <megamansec> it was the anti-surge protection on the motherboard.
[07:30] <megamansec> time to get the multimeter out..
[07:30] <redrum187> ObrienDave: I know he (it?) is a bot, I'm being silly
[07:30] <ObrienDave> doing a good job ;P
[07:30] <winter_lilly246> Thanks!
[07:30] <vezo> smh
[07:31] <redrum187> "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"  Yes?
[07:31] <vezo> thanks for the info
[07:31] <EriC^^> redrum187: yes
[07:32] <redrum187> What does all of that do?
[07:32] <EriC^^> mount binds the virtual filesystems
[07:32] <ObrienDave> mounts devices in numerical order
[07:33] <ObrienDave> that to ^^^ ;P
[07:33] <redrum187> Oh, because when I ran parted it was 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,6?
[07:34] <EriC^^> redrum187: it mounts /dev /dev/pts etc. to your /mnt/dev dirs
[07:34] <EriC^^> so you can chroot and use grub later in the chroot
[07:34] <ARX828> Hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I don't want to be rude but, How do I get back to windows without Grub won't load error?
[07:34] <redrum187> is chroot change root?  Just a shot in the dark, guess
[07:34] <EriC^^> yes
[07:34] <ikonia> ARX828: as in you want to remove ubuntu totally, or you just want to boot into windows
[07:35] <ARX828> well, get into windows.
[07:35] <redrum187> haha, ok and what does "mount binds the virtual filesystems" mean? :/
[07:35] <ARX828> Because, I didn't actually dual boot windows and Ubuntu.
[07:35] <wileee> ARX828, this a wubi
[07:35] <ikonia> ARX828: ? then why is grub on your system
[07:36] <EriC^^> /dev /dev/pts are the virtual filesystems redrum187
[07:36] <ObrienDave> wubi needs to die a slow, painful death :S
[07:36] <ARX828> I don't know.. Because I just factory reset my computer with the hope of getting back to windows but that error came up and I can't remove it.
[07:37] <ARX828> my computer is basically useless.
[07:37] <ARX828> However, I can get into the BIOS.
[07:37] <redrum187> http://termbin.com/ad74
[07:37] <ikonia> ARX828: have you had ubuntu on this system ?
[07:38] <ARX828> The one I am talking to you on?
[07:38] <ikonia> ARX828: stop for a moment
[07:38] <ikonia> ARX828: why have you come into this channel using 3 different usernames in the past 10 minutes with 3 differnet problems
[07:38] <ikonia> why are you pretending to be 3 different people
[07:38] <ikonia> shall we stop messing around please
[07:38] <ARX828> Because they are my three problems
[07:39] <EriC^^> redrum187: did you run the command?
[07:39] <ikonia> ARX828: lets stop messing around please - you have zero ubuntu problems, please stop using this channel
[07:39] <redrum187> Yes
[07:39] <ARX828> but I'm not lying
[07:39] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[07:39] <redrum187> "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"   This one?  Yes I ran that.
[07:39] <ARX828> That is what is happening
[07:39] <Guest6132> how to copy multiple directories into single directory from terminal
[07:40] <redrum187> alright, it spun the hard drive and now  it shows root@ubuntu:
[07:40] <ikonia> whois ARX828
[07:40] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, type efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:41] <redrum187> I got an error message
[07:41] <redrum187> could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:41] <EriC^^> what happens if you type efibootmgr?
[07:42] <redrum187> WARNING:root:could not open file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and then4 more lines
[07:42] <redrum187> efibootmgr is currently not installed
[07:42] <EriC^^> hmm
[07:43] <EriC^^> type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[07:43] <blackflow> Hello. Anyone else noticed Firefox going haywire lately? Often crashes and HTML5 videos play audio only until you reload the page a few times and then it's okay. Ubuntu 15.04 and FF 39
[07:43] <redrum187> I installed efibootmgr with apt-get install efibootmgr
[07:44] <EriC^^> ok
[07:44] <luxigo> In a fresh and updated 14.04.2 I cannot login using gnome-shell session after changing the language to thai, although I can login with unity..  I dont see anything in Xorg.0.log or syslog
[07:44] <redrum187> do you still want me to run ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[07:45] <EriC^^> yeah, does it exist?
[07:45] <redrum187> oh, that's just list files, yeah?
[07:45] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:45] <redrum187> the ls command printed a table
[07:46] <EriC^^> did it list the files or say no such file?
[07:46] <redrum187> printed:
[07:46] <redrum187> total 0
[07:46] <redrum187> some r--r-- stuff
[07:46] <EriC^^> ok
[07:46] <redrum187> then columns of root root
[07:46] <EriC^^> great
[07:46] <redrum187> config table, efivars, fw_vendor, runtime...
[07:47] <EriC^^> type efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:47] <pwp> Hi, I want to find out how I can navigate a dialog window with keyboard. Where can I paste a picture of the dialog in question?
[07:47] <Comstock> imgur ?
[07:48] <redrum187> -.- it still says the program efibootmgr is currently not installed.
[07:48] <ObrienDave> pwp, TAB to change fields (buttons) space bar to select
[07:48] <luxigo> where can I find a session log beside Xorg.0.log ?
[07:48] <pwp> ObrienDave: doesn't seem to work with the dialog in question... That 's why I asked where to post image.
[07:49] <ObrienDave> !imgur
[07:49] <cfhowlett> !imgur
[07:49] <ObrienDave> !pastebinit
[07:49] <ObrienDave> !pastebin
[07:51] <redrum187> "You will have to enable the component called 'main' (Newline) Use netcat.
[07:51] <ObrienDave> !pastebin
[07:51] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | pwp
[07:52] <EriC^^> redrum187: does efibootmgr alone work?
[07:52] <luxigo> Hi ! I changed the user interface language in Ubuntu 14.04.2, then I cannot login with gnome (screen is black, I can see the cursor, and after a few minutes i go back to login screen)
[07:52] <redrum187> warning root could not open file...
[07:52] <cfhowlett> luxigo, do you actually have that language installed?  because if not ...
[07:53] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, type exit
[07:53] <redrum187> back to user ubuntu
[07:53] <luxigo> cfhowlett: yeah it happened after I have been requested to install the required files and accepted (it happened yesterday yet and I tried to  resinstalled from scratch)
[07:53] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:53] <EriC^^> if it's not installed install it
[07:54] <cfhowlett> luxigo, "tried to" ... what happened?
[07:54] <luxigo> tried to reinstall from scratch
[07:54] <cfhowlett> better yet luxigo, login to the current language and verify that you have actually go the second language onboard.
[07:54] <redrum187> I thought I already did.  ill do it again
[07:54] <luxigo> i just added thai at top in "language and text" system settings panel
[07:54] <EriC^^> redrum187: it was in the chroot
[07:54] <redrum187> should I do apt-get install efibootmgr?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> luxigo, that doesn't mean it's installed.  verify.
[07:55] <luxigo> using "install / remove language " button
[07:55] <EriC^^> redrum187: yeah, if it's not installed run sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[07:55] <redrum187> ok, done.
[07:55] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:56] <redrum187> It prints "Use netcat."
[07:56] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[07:57] <luxigo> it is installed since I finally can login with unitiy (after having tried startx in vt after which i only see the background image and the cursor , trying to start unitfy from login screen before ended with black screen and cursor too)
[07:58] <redrum187> http://sprunge.us/KBUG
[07:58] <luxigo> still, I only reach black screen and cursor when trying to login with gnome
[07:58] <EriC^^> redrum187: does sudo efibootmgr -v work by itself?
[07:58] <luxigo> is there a logfile somewhere for gnome login ?
[07:58] <redrum187> it accepted the command but nothing happened/no prints
[07:59] <EriC^^> redrum187: did you use sudo?
[07:59] <redrum187> yes 'sudo efibootmgr -v"
[07:59] <EriC^^> that's odd
[07:59] <redrum187> is it because I"m booted from a livedisk?
[08:00] <EriC^^> no
[08:00] <EriC^^> anyways, type sudo chroot /mnt
[08:00] <redrum187> sudo chroot /mnt
[08:00] <redrum187> oops, terminal
[08:00] <redrum187> ok
[08:01] <EriC^^> ok, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}
[08:01] <woainihehe> hey
[08:02] <redrum187> done
[08:02] <EriC^^> ok, type cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}
[08:03] <redrum187> done
[08:03] <EriC^^> ok, are you using secureboot?
[08:03] <redrum187> I do not think so, but then again, I had never heard of that until today...
[08:04] <EriC^^> ok, anyways type ls -R /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:04] <EriC^^> just want to make sure it's backed up correctly
[08:05] <redrum187> http://termbin.com/w2sr
[08:07] <EriC^^> redrum187: something is off
[08:07] <EriC^^> you don't have an ubuntu efi dir
[08:07] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:08] <redrum187> http://termbin.com/p3qd
[08:09] <EriC^^> you have legacy grub installed
[08:09] <cttipton> yup
[08:09] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:09] <redrum187> http://termbin.com/4344
[08:10] <EriC^^> there's an efi entry in fstab though
[08:10] <EriC^^> must be some weird bug or something
[08:10] <redrum187> My new personal record, broken on day 1...
[08:11] <dtscode> hey guys... whenever I try to ssh into a server, it just hangs. this is the output: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/S3kzBaLvP3uHimNb4g73/
[08:11] <EriC^^> redrum187: bug with the installer i think
[08:11] <redrum187> Oh!  There was an error message
[08:11] <redrum187> It said something about a CD drive though, but my CD drive bay is empty though
[08:11] <luxigo> Still in 14.04.2 on thinkpad x220, when I logout or when I switch to a vt, the screen is dimmed, I have to press the brightness change key one time (up or down) or write to /sys/.../brightness and it's restored (looks like a known bug)
[08:11] <EriC^^> anyways type apt-get purge grub-common grub2-common grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc grub-pc-bin
[08:11] <redrum187> So I ignored it....  oops?
[08:12] <EriC^^> redrum187: nah i think that's irrelevant
[08:13] <redrum187> the following packages wil be REMOVED: (previously mentioned packages)
[08:13] <EriC^^> yes
[08:13] <redrum187> After this operation 33.7 mb disk space will be freed. continue?
[08:13] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:13] <redrum187> whoah
[08:14] <redrum187> A GUI appeared, Do you want to have all GRUB 2 files removed from /boot/grub?  This will make the system unbootable unless another bootloader is installed.
[08:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:14] <redrum187> Press yes?
[08:15] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:15] <redrum187> removing ubiquity* and grub* stuff
[08:15] <redrum187> processed mime-support triggers, done
[08:16] <EriC^^> i feel like a dejavu of some sort, but anyways go on
[08:16] <takuan> I have a weird issue with ubuntu: I can't resolve a few addresses
[08:16] <redrum187> it's complete
[08:16] <takuan> I can resolve them fine on my phone via wifi but not on my two computers running ubuntu
[08:16] <takuan> neither in my browser or on the command line
[08:16] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, type apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:17] <redrum187> unable to locate package grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:18] <takuan> could this have to do with dnsmasq?
[08:18] <EriC^^> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:18] <EriC^^> redrum187: you're using 15.04?
[08:18] <redrum187> no, 14.04 LTS
[08:18] <EriC^^> redrum187: type apt-cache search grub-efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:19] <EriC^^> odd, i have that package
[08:19] <redrum187> !info event not found
[08:19] <EriC^^> redrum187: that's just for ubottu
[08:19] <redrum187> oh. got it.
[08:19] <ObrienDave> the bot ;p
[08:20] <redrum187> I don't know how to directly interact with it
[08:20] <mflaig> takuan, yes it could have to do with dnsmasq, but also with 100 other things ... :)
[08:20] <redrum187> apt-cache... printed "use ntcat"
[08:20] <luxigo> cfhowlett, after having installed every single package matching "thai", still a black screen with mouse cursor when trying to login with gnome.
[08:20] <redrum187> netcat*
[08:20] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok type apt-get install pastebinit
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !th | luxigo,
[08:20] <EriC^^> then apt-cache search grub-efi | pastebinit
[08:21] <luxigo> haha one user :-)
[08:21] <redrum187> unable to locate package pastbinit
[08:21] <luxigo> and I dont speak thai :-)
[08:21] <EriC^^> redrum187: missed an e
[08:21] <redrum187> oops, I didn't miss the e in terminal though "install pastebinit"
[08:22] <mflaig> takuan, first of all dnsmasq does have negative cache. So if you resolved NXDOMAIN (does not exist), then setup the name, then resolve again. dnsmasq is going to cache that NXDOMAIN for a while. IMHO around 5 Minutes.
[08:22] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, i think something else is messed up with your sources.list
[08:22] <EriC^^> maybe that's why you got an error earlier
[08:22] <EriC^^> redrum187: hold on
[08:22] <mflaig> takuan, also it could be possible that your ubuntu does IPv6, but your phone dies not. Are they using the same network?
[08:23] <redrum187> can it be updated/replaced or...?  I don't know if it even works that way
[08:23] <redrum187> ok
[08:23] <EriC^^> type apt-cache search grub-efi |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[08:23] <EriC^^> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed trusty
[08:24] <redrum187> http://sprunge.us/ibBG
[08:24] <redrum187> nothing showed up on the shortlink it served
[08:24] <EriC^^> redrum187: try apt-cache search grub-efi
[08:25] <redrum187> nothing happened
[08:26] <EriC^^> try apt-cache search grub bootloader
[08:26] <redrum187> nothing. :/
[08:27] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, type cat /etc/apt/sources.list |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[08:28] <EriC^^> redrum187: you never booted into this installation?
[08:28] <EriC^^> i'd reinstall at this point
[08:28] <EriC^^> cause who knows what else might be wrong, also checksum the .iso
[08:28] <redrum187> Welp. I guess if the shoe fits.  Or however that sayinggoes.
[08:29] <redrum187> Is there anything I need to do differently since the hdd is already partitioned?
[08:29] <EriC^^> yes, do not choose to reinstall ubuntu in the installer, it'll wipe the hdd
[08:29] <EriC^^> choose the Something else option
[08:30] <EriC^^> select the mountpoints and reinstall
[08:30] <redrum187> what does select the mountpoints mean
[08:30] <TomyLobo> Unpacking ruby1.9.1-dev (1.9.3.484-2ubuntu1.2) ... <--- is that ruby 1.9.1 or 1.9.3?
[08:30] <EriC^^> like "/" is your root
[08:30] <tpanmajia> TomyLobo: youthink?
[08:31] <TomyLobo> tpanmajia, i have no idea :)
[08:31] <tpanmajia> TomyLobo: what do you think is the version?
[08:32] <TomyLobo> tpanmajia, i have no idea :)
[08:32]  * tpanmajia sighs
[08:32] <TomyLobo> but i just noticed i'm using RVM on this box, so i removed the package
[08:32] <luxigo> cfhowlett, running startx from the console, I have only the background screen but I can press ctrl-alt-t to launch a terminal ...  From gdm only the cursor (no background image) and ctrl-alt-t not working
[08:32] <tpanmajia> it's 1.9.3
[08:32] <redrum187> can I do the checksum right now while I'm livebooted?
[08:32] <TomyLobo> tpanmajia, so then why is the package called 1.9.1?
[08:32] <redrum187> before switching backt o windows?
[08:33] <EriC^^> redrum187: yeah, type md5sum /path/to/iso
[08:33] <EriC^^> redrum187: where is the iso located?
[08:33] <tpanmajia> TomyLobo: idk
[08:33] <redrum187> damn, let me look for a moment...
[08:33] <TomyLobo> if i install a linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic, i dont expect that to be 3.21 either
[08:34] <tpanmajia> TomyLobo: the version of your linux-image-3.19.0.25 is 3.21
[08:34] <tpanmajia> TomyLobo: what distro are you using?
[08:34] <redrum187> C:/OS/Users/Myname/Downloads/ubuntu.iso
[08:34] <TomyLobo> tpanmajia, ubuntu trusty
[08:35] <alina-emergency> how to track server files, that were been changed recently in specific folder recursively?
[08:35] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, git :)
[08:35] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, is C:\ the 200gb partition?
[08:35] <TomyLobo> there's also etckeeper
[08:35] <TomyLobo> if you're talking about /etc
[08:35] <roundfater> alina-emergency: <alina-emergency> ur my nigga
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[08:35] <tpanmajia> !ops
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !server | alina-emergency
[08:35] <redrum187> NVM it is here: /media/ubuntu/OS/Users/myusername/Downloads
[08:35] <tpanmajia> !ops | roundfater
[08:36] <cfhowlett> roundfater, in other words, stop your nonsense.
[08:36] <alina-emergency> TomyLobo, git?
[08:36] <roundfater> tpanmajia: you better tell alina-emergency that's what he told me
[08:36] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, are you asking what git is or how it applies to your situation?
[08:37] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok
[08:37] <alina-emergency> TomyLobo, nah, i have a webproject in htdocs, so i want to see all last changes in that folder that were ever made, some saving logs
[08:37] <EriC^^> those apt-cache search grub bootloader commands were being run from the chroot right? root#?
[08:38] <EriC^^> redrum187^
[08:38] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, definitely a use-case for git, then
[08:38] <TomyLobo> git is a distributed version control system
[08:38] <redrum187> yes, I"m still root@ubuntu:/#
[08:39] <TomyLobo> distributed meaning that you dont need a central server to do version control
[08:39] <gtyupppp> Wow
[08:39] <alina-emergency> hmmmm ok thanks TomyLobo i am looking at it right now, let me try it, thanks for hlep
[08:39] <redrum187> it said filepath/filename.iso no such file ordirectory
[08:40] <redrum187> I copied the path from the file browser...
[08:40] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, you can essentially just do "git init" and then "git add" all your files and commit everything. redo the last steps every time you change stuff
[08:40] <EriC^^> redrum187: i think the /media/ubuntu is on the live session accessing the windows
[08:40] <EriC^^> redrum187: use it in another terminal that's in the live session
[08:40] <EriC^^> !hashes
[08:40] <EriC^^> check the above to see if it matches up
[08:41] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, you can transfer all your version history to another machine by pushing it there or fetching it from the original machine
[08:41] <alina-emergency> TomyLobo, the problem is, i am working with someone right now, and everytime i make changes in .php files he knows about it and get mess with that code, i need t know how he is doing this, and this is definitely not git, so i need to stop this, as he mess with the files and break something all the time
[08:42] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, hehe
[08:42] <TomyLobo> well, if he breaks stuff, dont give him direct access
[08:42] <redrum187> I found the md5 fromthat table, but It says no such file or directory when I md5sum the file
[08:42] <TomyLobo> make him go through version control
[08:42] <alina-emergency> TomyLobo, its his server, i am working on his files
[08:43] <TomyLobo> oh
[08:43] <TomyLobo> so, git
[08:43] <TomyLobo> you can just commit whenever you change something
[08:43] <TomyLobo> and diff whenever something breaks, to see wtf he changed :)
[08:44] <TomyLobo> then you can either revert his changes or fix and commit them
[08:44] <EriC^^> redrum187: md5 it from the live session, not the chroot
[08:44] <EriC^^> you got the file from the filemanager right?
[08:44] <alina-emergency> hmmmm yes true, but anyways i would still like to know how he check files, maybe he do this with ls command?
[08:44] <TomyLobo> "check"?
[08:44] <redrum187> I copied the filepath and name, yes
[08:44] <TomyLobo> you mean you're making changes he didnt approve? :)
[08:45] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, open a new terminal and type it there
[08:45] <alina-emergency> no, i make changes in files, and he go there and mess with it, i dont know, he try to do some syntax approvement or read what i changed there, and each time he delete or modify lines there, so this is annoying
[08:46] <alina-emergency> i think he just do an output of ls of last modified files by date or something like this
[08:46] <TomyLobo> alina-emergency, hmm, you could obfuscate, of course :P
[08:47] <redrum187> wow, ok, it worked there... weird.... lemme fetch te numbers and compare.
[08:47] <TomyLobo> but as for means of him being able to tell what you changed
[08:47] <TomyLobo> i could imagine he has a copy the entire folder somewhere else and just diffs it
[08:48] <redrum187> md5 sums match :/
[08:48] <TomyLobo> git, svn, owncloud, dropbox would be some things he might be using
[08:48] <EriC^^> redrum187: ok, from the root# type cat /etc/apt/sources.list |& curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[08:48] <EriC^^> just to see if you have that file and the sources are right
[08:49] <EriC^^> redrum187: usb could still be damaged btw
[08:49] <TomyLobo> or an inotify hook that mails him, or or or
[08:49] <EriC^^> redrum187: you can try running an integrity check from the menu maybe
[08:49] <redrum187> http://prunge.us/ZaVK
[08:50] <redrum187> http://sprunge.us/ZaVK
[08:50] <EriC^^> you're missing the sources.list
[08:50] <EriC^^> anyways, reinstall see how it goes
[08:50] <EriC^^> try a different usb maybe
[08:50] <redrum187> will do
[08:51] <redrum187> le sigh
[08:52] <redrum187> thanks for sticking with me all night
[08:52] <redrum187> I really appreciate the support
[08:52] <EriC^^> no problem
[08:53] <redrum187> should I redownload the iso, or just burn it to a different usb drive?
[08:53] <EriC^^> just burn to a different drive
[08:54] <EriC^^> when you press try ubuntu, open a terminal and type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi so you know if you booted in uefi correctly
[08:54] <EriC^^> then install
[08:54] <redrum187> cool, thanks
[09:06] <mike802> hello everyone!
[09:08] <gtyupppp> mike802: what
[09:08] <mike802> is there a problem here buddy
[09:11] <jackhum> I have installed burg in my ubuntu
[09:11] <jackhum> But the problem is sudo burg-emu shows burg correctly
[09:11] <jackhum> But in real boot up . grub is being displayed
[09:12] <gtyupppp> jackhum: so
[09:14] <TomyLobo> mike802, jackhum be advised that gtyupppp has been talking down on people who join for a while
[09:15] <mike802> i liked it
[09:15] <mike802> ;)
[09:15] <fione> how do I update the security
[09:16] <cfhowlett> jackhum, fione sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to do some serious renewal
[09:16] <TomyLobo> fione, you mean how to install the security updates the system notifies you about? or something else?
[09:16] <fione> TomyLobo: I mean newest update like windows update for security
[09:17] <TomyLobo> fione, that's what i'm saying :)
[09:17] <TomyLobo> run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:18] <TomyLobo> that's for any ubuntu. desktop ubuntus have their update notifiers if you like something with a gui
[09:18] <TomyLobo> kubuntu hass muon updater, for instance
[09:18] <TomyLobo> -s
[09:18] <TomyLobo> i dont use the regular gnome ubuntu so i dont know what that has instead
[09:28] <BlackDalek> Does anyone know how to used miniupnp to open port for nicotine+ ?
[09:28] <BlackDalek> ues*
[09:28] <BlackDalek> use*
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[09:31] <mike802> go home
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[09:33] <IlIllIChild|I[\`> !ops | TomyLobo sexually harassing me in private message!
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[09:33] <IlIllIChild|I[\`> /   _   i    z         k   K   &   U   :
[09:33] <BlackDalek> during configuration of miniupnpd, when it asks "listening IP address" is that the IP address of my router (192.168.x.x) or the IP address of my laptop (192.168.x.x) or the internet IP of my router (118.208.x.x) ?
[09:33] <TomyLobo> rofl
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[09:33] <Mind-Child>    2    G   >   K      S   G   '   w
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[09:33] <Mind-Child> N   |    ]   q   c   \   i   u   j   >
[09:33] <TomyLobo> fitting name
[09:33] <Mind-Child> p   <   "   3   Z   )   t   t    3   _   !   V   L   l   v   y    J   b       s   j   Z   '   }    $   o   /   t   k      |   y    A       !   p   !   r   _   r    o   f   )   ;   (
[09:34] <Mind-Child> ^   A   H    \   O   ?   &   ,   H   M   ,
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[09:34] <Mind-Child> k   {    ;      i   }   1   +   v
[09:34] <Mind-Child> One of the great parts about this time of day is no channel ops are ever on
[09:34] <Mind-Child> G   `   B   I   (   K   |   }    p   T   r   t   O   6   =   P    j   )   L   X      i   6   I    g          *   V   ,   A   `    s   {   `   e   !   L   |   _    t   K   m   k
[09:34] <Mind-Child> T   J   6   V    ,   F   J   '   #   X   *   D
[09:34] <Mind-Child> h   {   +   S   W   X          \      }   y   a   x   e   e    *   C       5      (   b   Q    t   q   {   <   =   O   `   i    P   1   T   `   <   Y   z   H    &   l   >   O   %
[09:34] <Mind-Child>   b   W   5    .   V   \   J   e      4   w
[09:34] <Mind-Child> It's an anarchy here
[09:34] <Mr_Sheesh> ty Drone`
[09:34] <EriC^^> pwnd by a bot
[09:35] <TomyLobo> back to business
[09:35] <Mr_Sheesh> couldn't possibly come out ANY other way
[09:35] <TomyLobo> BlackDalek, is that miniupnp thing with authentication?
[09:35] <Mind-Child> One of the great parts about this time of day is no channel ops are ever on
[09:35] <Mind-Child> It's an anarchy here.  You have to come and accept reality for a few hours.
[09:36] <mike802> woah!@
[09:36] <Mind-Child> '   w   P   C   a   %   K   C    ^   g   n   c      T      :    K   ]      /   {   F   }   N    a   v   T   g   }   -   )   L    J   y   X   O   !   V   f   <    "   Z      M
[09:36] <Mind-Child> '   r   U   H    "   p   Q   E   W   /   '   n
[09:36] <mike802> mind blown
[09:36] <Mind-Child> y      m   u   P   ,      Y    G   M   `   k   ]   I   l   z    @   "      (   )   v   U   {    e   a   ~   !   r   :   @   .    ^   =   x   v   g   &      m    +   6   t      )   G   ,
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[09:36] <Mind-Child> $   !   d   >   A   w   $   F    %   d   $   C   o   K   /   r    d   ?   H   @      s   _   d    A   &   1   9   v   d   z   _    m   .   ~   Z   z   )   C   n       M   #   c   s   g
[09:36] <Mind-Child> /   j    {   (   N   {   ~   _   S   ;
[09:36] <Mind-Child>    ,      _   #   Y   W   (    A   v   Z   j   B   /   N   _    h   *   p   j   p   j   #   4    =   y   _   f   W   B   0          )   J      t   \   ;   l    m   U   A   ?   V
[09:36] <Mind-Child> k   ^   8    F   z   Z   R   [   j   D   U
[09:36] <Mind-Child> n   Y   1   5   E   U   x   p    /   @   1   j   x   /   Q   '    |   h   x      F   g   X   v       >   C   ,   %      #   1    C   n   ?   >   u   X   P   x    '   a   a
[09:36] <Mind-Child>   d   >   x   D    U   i   ?   _   O   G   <   E
[09:36] <BlackDalek> TomyLobo, ??? no clue. I only found out it existed about 5 mins ago. Installed it and it is running some kind of configuration. Apparently it will fix my router config so that I can use nicotine.
[09:36] <Mind-Child> =   ^   {   N   ,   Y   !   =    _   U   r   N   K   v   +   F    t      o   F   6   e      (       V   *   -   o   T   Z   #    l   $   t      E   @   .   _    ;   >   +   0
[09:36] <EriC^^> ikonia: you there?
[09:36] <Mind-Child> "      X   u    0   6   %   @   >   )   F   q
[09:37] <Mind-Child> I   P   ;   =   ^   (   ^       }   @   X   ~   [   H   [   L    {   V   =   b   ^   K   `   <       A   ~   :   W   d   -       U   @   r   i   )   P   -   &    Q   ,   t   A   #   K
[09:37] <Mind-Child> h   7    D   G   u   "   s   5      a
[09:37] <TomyLobo> BlackDalek, but do you know what upnp is?
[09:37] <baizon> !admin
[09:37] <Mind-Child> i   >   P   (   I   C   G   A       ;   u   u      b   y   +       .   Z   <   J   H   V   q       Y   -   '   '   z   B   b    C   O   R   b   f   y   f   p    B      f   #   U   _
[09:37] <Mind-Child> r   r    Z   H   j   !   ^   B   t   *
[09:37] <TomyLobo> it usually allows unauthenticated clients on your local network to establish a port forward to itself
[09:38] <TomyLobo> imo, it's not something you want :)
[09:38] <mike802> phew!
[09:38] <mike802> glad that's over
[09:38] <mike802> i got a pretty unpleasant message from that person
[09:38] <BlackDalek> TomyLobo, ok... so do you have any idea why nicotine still says my ports are closed?
[09:39] <TomyLobo> BlackDalek, probably because it doesnt use upnp?
[09:39] <TomyLobo> just forward the port manually
[09:39] <TomyLobo> www.portforward.com
[09:39] <jackcom> apt-get install open-vm-tools-lts-trusty <—— i must excute this command?
[09:39] <TomyLobo> jackcom, i dont know. who said you must?
[09:40] <jackcom> TomyLobo: web site
[09:40] <BlackDalek> TomyLobo, I am trying to figure out manual port forwarding. I thought I already had it set up,, but it does not seem to work :(
[09:41] <TomyLobo> jackcom, can you be more precise?
[09:41] <jackcom> apt-get install open-vm-tools-lts-trusty  <—— what is this command?
[09:41] <TomyLobo> BlackDalek, you can verify using wireshark
[09:41] <jackcom> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/VMware_Tools_or_open-vm-tools
[09:41] <TomyLobo> jackcom, it installs a package called "open-vm-tools-lts-trusty"
[09:42] <sauvin> lastlog mindchild
[09:42] <jackcom> then i must install it to ubuntu?
[09:42] <sauvin> Grr.
[09:42] <jackcom> TomyLobo:
[09:42] <TomyLobo> jackcom, VMWare is not part of ubuntu. ask your vendor
[09:42] <jackcom> ok last question
[09:43] <jackcom> how can i know that open-vm-tools-lts-trusty is installed already?
[09:43] <jackcom> TomyLobo:
[09:43] <TomyLobo> dpkg -s packagename
[09:43] <jackcom> thanks
[09:43] <jackcom> what is dpkg?
[09:43] <TomyLobo> man dpkg
[09:44] <jackcom> i see
[09:47] <BlackDalek> the port forwarding guides for my router at portforward.com are woefully out of date.. none of the screenshots or menu items even match :(
[09:48] <TomyLobo> try google then
[09:50] <Nokaji> or youtube
[09:52] <BotchlaB> How frequent are kernel updates, really? I'm on 14.04 LTS. How common is it for them to completely ruin the system? I've heard horror stories about it.
[09:53] <jackcom> TomyLobo: what is it?
[09:53] <jackcom> Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[09:53] <jackcom> i don’t know maintainer’s version.
[09:53] <cfhowlett> BotchlaB, possible + rare.
[09:53] <BotchlaB> cfhowlett, I see.
[09:53] <TomyLobo> jackcom, dude, read the manuals instead of asking us everything the system asks you
[09:53] <BotchlaB> cfhowlett, reason I ask is, everyone tells me to backup your important files before a kernel update, heh.
[09:54] <TomyLobo> if the manuals dont help, google
[09:54] <cfhowlett> BotchlaB, common sense that is ...
[09:54] <jackcom> :( i see
[09:54] <Skyrider> Does anyone know a good stopforumspam (IP BAN) alternative?
[09:55] <BotchlaB> cfhowlett: Yes, but it *specifically* singled out kernel updates, as opposed to any other kind of updates, as worthy of taking into account backups before applying them. That being said, yes, I do frequently back up my system, kernel updates or not.
[09:55] <cfhowlett> BotchlaB, it's not like you MUST take the kernel upgrades ...
[09:55] <mike802> are you trying to write your own forum?
[09:55] <mike802> *code
[09:55] <BotchlaB> cfhowlett: True.
[09:55] <mike802> usually the mods have good judgement
[09:56] <brainwash> many kernel updates are security relevant
[09:57] <newMeta> what kind of support does ubuntu 14.04 LTS offers?
[09:57] <cfhowlett> newMeta, Long Term Support
[09:57] <cfhowlett> !LTS | newMeta
[09:58] <Ninjablaster> Skyrider u could write a simple bot for that
[09:58] <BotchlaB> brainwash: That's interesting.
[09:58] <newMeta> I know ubottu,, define  supported os'es
[09:58] <cfhowlett> newMeta, 12.04, 14.04, 15.04 are currently supported
[09:59] <muhsin> 3
[09:59] <muhsin> hi
[09:59] <newMeta> what do you mean by supported,  cfhowleft?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> newMeta, updates, upgrades, packages available.
[10:00] <cfhowlett> newMeta, you know, the USUAL "support" options
[10:00] <newMeta> ok, but is it really necessary to upgrade if i'm happy with my current ubuntu performance?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> newMeta, what is your current version?
[10:01] <newMeta> 14.04.01 LTS
[10:01] <TomyLobo> newMeta, keep in mind that security steadily degrades
[10:01] <TomyLobo> if a new bug is uncovered, your system will be more vulnerable than before
[10:01] <cfhowlett> newMeta, LTS only releases will save you a load of heartache.  stick with 14.04 if you like.
[10:01] <newMeta> no one has ever hacked my computer, so I don't know what you are talking about,tomylobo
[10:02] <BotchlaB> newMeta: No-one may have ever hacked your computer -- not yet, anyway. It's always wise to stay updated security-wise.
[10:02] <TomyLobo> so if you consider security as an aspect of "performance", there is that
[10:02] <TomyLobo> newMeta, 1. not that you know of 2. not yet
[10:02] <mike802> security doesn't just cover hacking
[10:02] <mike802> security also covers minor "annoyances"
[10:03] <cfhowlett> newMeta, you can stick with 14.04 and STILL grab the latest security updates.  suggest you keep 14.04 until 16.04.1 rolls around
[10:03] <TomyLobo> it also covers running shit off the 'net'
[10:03] <TomyLobo> -'
[10:03] <BotchlaB> cfhowlett: THat was my plan, too -- go from LTS to LTS. I was going to ask if many people did this, heh.
[10:03] <newMeta> ok cfhowleft
[10:03] <cfhowlett> BotchlaB, I don't know the number but ... I be ONE
[10:03] <BotchlaB> Hehe, cool.
[10:04] <TomyLobo> yeah, LTS to LTS is kinda the only option right now
[10:04] <TomyLobo> since they shortened the support lifetimes of the versions between the LTS releases
[10:04] <BotchlaB> I see.
[10:05] <TomyLobo> i was fortunate to unknowingly grab the first release with the new support lifetime
[10:05] <TomyLobo> 13.04
[10:05] <BotchlaB> Heh.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> 5 years support should be enough.  "should"
[10:06] <TomyLobo> had to update twice to get to an LTS and now it's not really running well anymore
[10:06] <TomyLobo> someone here told me updating 13.04->13.10->14.04 isnt even supported
[10:06] <bekks> It is.
[10:06] <TomyLobo> updating twice is supported?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | TomyLobo, but clean install probably better
[10:06] <bekks> Sure.
[10:07] <bekks> TomyLobo: I've seen people in here with "updated" systems since 7.x
[10:07] <TomyLobo> hmm
[10:08] <TomyLobo> btw, is there a way to keep /home and reinstall the rest of the system from packages? assuming i dont have a separate /home partition
[10:08] <cfhowlett> TomyLobo, don't format the /home and make a separate /home
[10:08] <cfhowlett> !home
[10:09] <TomyLobo> cfhowlett, moving /home... nah
[10:09] <TomyLobo> i'll get a new machine soon anyway, i'll do it properly there :)
[10:09] <hl_joker> #pinkfloyd
[10:09] <TomyLobo> hl_joker, you forgot /join
[10:10] <hl_joker> @tomylobo thanx , new here
[10:15] <nikitha> hi ..how to make vmdk file to ghost .gho file ?  want to make guest os as primary os
[10:16] <cfhowlett> nikitha, ask the vmware channel
[10:16] <bekks> nikitha: Besides what cfhowlett said, there is no way.
[10:17] <Nectar> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on an external harddrive, boot it and save changes? my ssd is running low on space...
[10:18] <bekks> Nectar: Thats possible. But more targetting, free up space.
[10:18] <EriC^^> Nectar: yeah
[10:18] <EriC^^> Nectar: you can put your /home on a drive and "/" on another if you want more space
[10:19] <bekks> OR just move your large files to the external drive.
[10:19] <rainbowwarrior> hello , is anyone here using ubuntu on an msi ge60 please ? I plan on buying one on 4th August and noticed it has the killer gb lan for wired, but for wireless it has ieee 802.11 and rf standard ac , will ubuntu have problems with the wifi card please ?
[10:19] <rainbowwarrior> sorry meant  * msi ge60 apache *
[10:19] <Nectar> bekks, i only have an ssd internally, no hdd
[10:19] <bekks> rainbowwarrior: The wifi standard 802.11 does not tell anything about the used wifi chipset, so your question cannot be answered.
[10:19] <ob1mod> what do you think about system76 ?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ob1mod, ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:20] <TomyLobo> rainbowwarrior, ask them to try a live cd on that machine before buying it
[10:20] <dylan_> hello guys im running ubuntu 12.04 and like it was smooth btw this in virtualbox and now i see it running slow a bit how can i fix
[10:20] <bekks> Nectar: If you dont have an external hdd, your question is pointless. Just free up space then.
[10:20] <cfhowlett> dylan_, virtualbox will always be slower than a native install.  time to dualboot perhaps??
[10:20] <TomyLobo> dylan_, check the load averages (especially the first) in and out of the box
[10:20] <MMukherjee> I have a Ubuntu 14.04 VPS with Plesk 12 and fail2ban. Although I turned on the SSH jail to block malicious users who fails root access, fail2ban doesn't do anything and don't block these ip address
[10:21] <Nectar> bekks: i have external hardrive. just no hardrives internally
[10:21] <dylan_> like today it was smooth as and now its running slow
[10:21] <dylan_> i gave it a 1gig of ram
[10:21] <dylan_> and like 10gig hard disk
[10:21] <MMukherjee> Any ideas what I can do?
[10:21] <rainbowwarrior> bekks,  true , TomyLobo  will do and thank you , even if ubuntu does not support the wifi card on the msi ge60 i have a spare wi-fi adapator that works in ubuntu anyway :)
[10:21] <dylan_> and how do i check load averages etc??
[10:22] <TomyLobo> dylan_, htop, top
[10:22] <dylan_> command line?
[10:22] <TomyLobo> dylan_, but if you didnt give it enough memory, maybe it's swapping now. check vmstat
[10:22] <TomyLobo> the si and so columns
[10:23] <dylan_> how do i check it do i do it via terminal or system settings
[10:23] <TomyLobo> terminal of course
[10:23] <dylan_> thank you ill check now
[10:23] <dylan_> this is what it said
[10:23] <dylan_> procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----
[10:23] <dylan_>  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa
[10:23] <dylan_>  0  0  37668  87892  16820 280932    1   18   373   444  380  747 27 50 21  2
[10:23] <dylan_> dylan@Ubuntu12:~$
[10:24] <dylan_> ??
[10:24] <TomyLobo> pastebin if it's more than 2 lines
[10:24] <TomyLobo> it's swapping a little
[10:24] <dylan_> is that bad?
[10:24] <dylan_> like cause im a noob
[10:24] <TomyLobo> well it doesnt swap unless it's lacking memory
[10:24] <TomyLobo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[10:24] <cfhowlett> dylan_, 1gb of ram?  of course it'll swap!
[10:25] <TomyLobo> cfhowlett, depends on what he does
[10:25] <bekks> dylan_: Pastebing "free -m" please.
[10:25] <baash05> Macbook pro wifi question.. Is firmware-b43 still the best way to get wifi
[10:25] <dylan_> yeah i gave it a gig of ram right i installed this a day ago fresh install went smooth has
[10:25] <bekks> baash05: Depends on the exact wifi chipset you have.
[10:25] <TomyLobo> my trusty vagrant vm takes like 44 MB if i shutdown the nonessential services
[10:25] <bekks> dylan_: 1G is - pretty low.
[10:25] <dylan_> well m laptop is windows 8.1 and it has 4gig of ram
[10:25] <bekks> TomyLobo: I strongly doubt it will even boot with less than 64M.
[10:25] <dylan_> that is allocated to
[10:26] <dylan_> and plus even though my laptop is 64bit i ran ubuntu 32bit
[10:26] <cfhowlett> dylan_, you might xubuntu or lubuntu faster.   to test: sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4       then logout, choose an alternate session, login
[10:26] <TomyLobo> bekks, maybe it needs a little more during boot :)
[10:26] <bekks> dylan_: How much RAM does your laptop have? And how much RAM does your VM have?
[10:26] <TomyLobo> 4/1
[10:26] <dylan_> quick question if i swap to unity 2d
[10:26] <TomyLobo> he said that already
[10:26] <dylan_> does that make it any better??
[10:26] <dylan_> cause im running 12.04
[10:26] <dylan_> not latest cause if i run latest it is so slow
[10:27] <baash05> bekks  How do I find out whats best to install?
[10:27] <TomyLobo> anything that takes a lot of ram is bad if you dont have a lot of ram
[10:27] <bekks> dylan_: Use 14.04 and some other desktop environment rather than Unity.
[10:27] <dylan_> but when i use 14.04 it is so slow seriously
[10:27] <bekks> baash05: Take a look at lspci and lsusb to find out your wifi chipset.
[10:27] <dylan_> like i setup everything and then its like boom its slow
[10:27] <bekks> dylan_: 14.04 is faster than 12.04 :) Just dont use Unity.
[10:28] <dylan_> k
[10:28] <dylan_> i think i got rid of the iso
[10:28] <dylan_> :/ looks like gotta redownlaod
[10:28] <cfhowlett> dylan_, I already told you how to fix ...
[10:28] <bekks> dylan_: So download xubuntu or lubuntu.
[10:28] <dylan_> ok
[10:28] <dylan_> :) thanks for your support
[10:28] <cfhowlett> bekks, not necessary.  just install the DE
[10:29] <dylan_> and also how can i remove like packages that are old etc
[10:29] <Nectar> If im installing ubuntu to an external hdd is it as simple as connecting the external hdd and putting in the disk, running the installation? Like normal?
[10:29] <bekks> cfhowlett: Yeah.
[10:29] <bekks> Nectar: No need for converting anything.
[10:29] <dylan_> cause like im currently removing stuff i dont need like useless junk
[10:29] <bekks> Nectar: Just free up space :)
[10:29] <cfhowlett> dylan_, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:30] <dylan_> thanks:)
[10:32] <Nectar> bekks: are you saying to free up space on the ssd or external hd?
[10:32] <sakalypse> hey guys
[10:32] <dylan_> hey also is it possible to install ubuntu on like a usb right but make the usb bootable so that virtualbox can read it like if its a hard drive?
[10:33] <EriC^^> dylan_: yeah
[10:33] <dylan_> cause i was going to experiment
[10:33] <dylan_> but i just didnt know how
[10:33] <EriC^^> dylan_: you can install to it as usual, then make a rawdisk image that points to the usb and load it in virtualbox
[10:33] <bekks> Nectar: On the disk that is low on space.
[10:33] <dylan_> uh oh i tried to remove a screen acessibly tool
[10:34] <dylan_> and it just said it failed to remove
[10:34] <dylan_> :(
[10:34] <dylan_> anyways eric how would i do that
[10:34] <dylan_> ??
[10:34] <bekks> dylan_: Which tool and what is "it", and whats the exact message you got?
[10:34] <Nectar> bekks: 26 gigs free out of 119
[10:34] <BotchlaB> OK, this is odd.
[10:34] <bekks> Nectar: Thats plenty of free space.
[10:34] <cfhowlett> dylan_, easier/saner approach: stop trying to remove integrated pieces.  download the .mini iso and install exactly/only what you want.
[10:34] <BotchlaB> My mouse cursor just doubled.
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !mini | dylan_
[10:35] <BotchlaB> There's two mouse cursors, one on the left, one on the right.
[10:35] <EriC^^> dylan_: do you have grub installed right now? or maybe 2 usbs you can use?
[10:35] <BotchlaB> The one on the left works.
[10:35] <dylan_> i got like heaps of usbs but none have grub
[10:35] <BotchlaB> They're like 2 cm's apart on my screen.
[10:35] <BotchlaB> How do I make it go back to one?
[10:35] <dylan_> cause i was gonna load a copy of ubuntu on a usb then make virtualbox read it
[10:35] <dylan_> as if it was a hard drive
[10:36] <dylan_> i tried the minimal before wasnt sastisfied that it had no GUI
[10:36] <dylan_> anyways ill grab a usb brb
[10:36] <Nectar> if i partition my ssd for a new ubuntu install; is possible (easy?) to recomve the partition so that it belongs to windows again?
[10:36] <EriC^^> dylan_: no, make 1 live usb, and put another usb in, boot the live usb, and in the installer choose Something else, then install to the usb and have the bootloader install to the usb too
[10:37] <EriC^^> dylan_: loading the installer usb in virtualbox won't do anything but load the installer, it's basically the same as just picking an .iso file to boot in virtualbox
[10:37] <bekks> Nectar: I still dont see why you want to reinstall everything. :)
[10:37] <MMukherjee> I have a Ubuntu 14.04 VPS with Plesk 12 and fail2ban. Although I turned on the SSH jail to block malicious users who fails root access, fail2ban doesn't do anything and don't block these ip address
[10:37] <dylan_> i grabbed a usb
[10:37] <MMukherjee> Any ideas?
[10:38] <dylan_> okay so what do i have to do?
[10:38] <bekks> EriC^^: Which is wrong, since virtualbox cannot boot from USB.
[10:38] <dylan_> ah
[10:38] <dylan_> sucks how virtualbox cant boot from usb
[10:38] <EriC^^> bekks: yeah, i meant if he had a way for virtualbox to read the usb as the hdd or something
[10:38] <Nectar> bekks: reinstall? i want to dual boot windows with ubuntu
[10:38] <EriC^^> i think it's possible, never tried it though
[10:38] <bekks> dylan_: Boot it from an iso file. No need for that language.
[10:38] <dylan_> hey quick question if i was to install minimal right how would i get a gui
[10:39] <bekks> EriC^^: you can create a raw vmdk pointing to ausb device which you created before, from the iso file. Or just boot the iso file.
[10:39] <bekks> dylan_: By installing a desktop environment.
[10:39] <dylan_> is there a good one in particular that doesnt use unity?
[10:39] <dylan_> and basically lightweight?
[10:39] <EriC^^> bekks: yeah i know, he wants to install to a usb and boot it from virtualbox
[10:39] <BotchlaB> dylan_: Try maybe a flavor like Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[10:40] <dylan_> ok let me download the mini iso
[10:40] <dylan_> and stuff
[10:40] <EriC^^> i was telling him booting the usb in virtualbox (the live installer) won't help for this goal
[10:40] <dylan_> then ill see what i can do
[10:40] <popey> kvm can boot from usb
[10:40] <popey> fwiw
[10:41] <dylan_> how many ram should i give the mini ?
[10:41] <EriC^^> dylan_: virtualbox can boot it, using the rawdisk image, but he has to install to the usb as usual first
[10:41] <dylan_> like i want it as lightweight as possible
[10:41] <brainwash> MMukherjee: join #fail2ban
[10:41] <EriC^^> i've not had luck installing to a usb using the rawdisk image, it hung midway
[10:42] <xiaozhao> linux
[10:42] <dylan_> brb im going to give my virtual machine a reboot needs to config updates
[10:42] <xiaozhao> yes
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !cn | xianghui
[10:48] <Joshun> Hi
[10:48] <Joshun> is it possible to install a lowlatency kernel but leave the generic one as default?
[10:48] <Joshun> I only want to use the realtime one for audio stuff
[10:48] <Joshun> so not by default
[10:51] <EriC^^> yes
[10:51] <Joshun> EriC how? can't seem to find out how
[10:52] <dylan_> hello
[10:52] <dylan_> im back
[10:52] <dylan_> just swapped from unity to unity 2d
[10:52] <EriC^^> install it then check /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see which one is first, edit /etc/default/grub accordingly
[10:52] <EriC^^> then update-grub if you edit it
[10:53] <Joshun> EriC ok I will try that, that isn't ideal though as if the kernel is updated you'd have to do it again
[10:53] <Joshun> thanks though
[10:56] <EriC^^> Joshun: if the first one is the generic then i guess it won't matter, you can boot the lowlatency from grub
[10:58] <cfhowlett> or you could take the .5 seconds to choose the alternate kernel.  Just sayin ...
[11:03] <ubuntu879> I was trying to reinstall Windows 7 with DVD on sony laptop and there were three partitions to choose from one of 18GB (system) another of 500GB (system) and last one was around 105GB (primary). I rushed thinking how I need space for fresh OS and formatted 18GB partition and 500GB partition then tried to install windows on 500GB partition and it didn't worked. I need to get files back from 500GB parttiotn and 18 GB partition.I th
[11:03] <EriC^^> ubuntu879: the 18gb partition is most likely the recovery partition
[11:03] <EriC^^> ubuntu879: you only had win7 installed?
[11:04] <ubuntu879> I need live OS with Testdisk on usb. I don't know for sure there were some other files too.
[11:04] <EriC^^> ubuntu879: type sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe
[11:05] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk
[11:06] <ubuntu879> I don't know how to enable wire connection or wireless connection on xubuntu.
[11:06] <EriC^^> download the testdisk .deb
[11:06] <EriC^^> or use ethernet
[11:07] <baash05> Hey.. I'm attempting to install ubuntu.. when I did it (with the option to install extras) it froze
[11:08] <baash05> Is that freez expected?
[11:08] <EriC^^> ubuntu879: or download the source files and compile it
[11:08] <ubuntu879> normally when I boot xubuntu from usb and connect cable it works automatically but this time it won't. Dunno why.  I'll download testdisk on usb and plug it then.
[11:09] <EriC^^> ok
[11:11] <ubuntu879> EriC^^, thanks for quick reply
[11:11] <EriC^^> np
[11:14] <Nokaji> more out of curiosity than the inconvenience I ask the following, maybe there is a lesson to be learned here ... why does "eject -T" work only sometimes but " eject /dev/sr0" & "eject -t /dev/sr0
[11:14] <Nokaji> "
[11:14] <Nokaji> opps , ... why do the latter work every time?
[11:15] <Nokaji> the former seems to be memory related, eg it works immediately after the latter have been used
[11:15] <joshua__> Is there a command line utility for viewing man pages of programs not installed?
[11:15] <EriC^^> Nokaji: cause it thinks it's still open and it's trying to close it when it's already closed
[11:16] <EriC^^> joshua__: you can check linux.die.net
[11:16] <Nokaji> EriC^^:  I don't think so, the former is a toggle command, it opens and closes
[11:16] <EriC^^> Nokaji: exactly
[11:17] <EriC^^> if it's open it sends a close command, if it's closed an open command
[11:17] <Nokaji> yes, so why does it not work all the time? - was my question
[11:17] <EriC^^> cause it must have a bug or incompatibility and it thinks it's open when it's closed
[11:18] <Nokaji> okay, well i swopped over writers recently, no idea if it worked fine before, never used it then
[11:19] <Nokaji> still traces of my old writer in the system
[11:19] <Nokaji> s/w
[11:19] <EriC^^> i'm just guessing based on what seems logical, you can strace the command to see what's going on exactly
[11:20] <Nokaji> I see, it should work, so process of 'illumination' (I might copyright that)
[11:20] <ubuntu879> so what's best way to recover data from formatted hdd partitions?
[11:21] <EriC^^> write the old partitions back
[11:21] <EriC^^> it usually works..
[11:21] <joshua__> say I ran "sl" for the first time and got "'sl' is currently not installed" and I want to find out what it does without using a browser or installing sl(or downloading the full package to extract the man like debman).
[11:22] <EriC^^> joshua__: apt-cache show sl , has a description of the package
[11:22] <EriC^^> joshua__: i don't know if you could download the man page separately
[11:25] <ioria> he can use curl with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/man6/sl.6.html
[11:25] <joshua__> cool. apt-cache prg | grep Description-en
[11:26] <joshua__> that meets my goal EriC^^ thanks
[11:27] <EriC^^> joshua__: ok, it won't work for all packages though, just so you know
[11:28] <ubuntu879> How do I enable connection for ethernet on xubuntu?
[11:30] <ubuntu879> it's xubuntu 12.10
[11:30] <bekks> !12.10 | ubuntu879
[11:31] <ubuntu879> ok I should get another version
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ubuntu879, download the 14.04 and install.  12.10 is dead, unsupported and we can't help with that.
[11:35] <EriC^^> joshua__: i mean some commands are a part of a package and they don't mention the commands in the description
[11:36] <EriC^^> joshua__: if you don't have a gui and you really need to check a command maybe you could use a terminal browser to go to manpages.ubuntu.com or linux.die.net
[11:38] <sireorion> hey guys if i do an do-release-upgrade on my server... will my TS3 server stop workin? ow will it work like before?
[11:39] <bekks> sireorion: You would have to reboot your server after running the upgrade and check functionality. That would include checking yout ts3-server.
[11:40] <sireorion> bekks: so in worst case i have to reinstall it?
[11:40] <OerHeks> sireorion, if you wonder does it keep working, backup your data
[11:40] <bekks> sireorion: Yes.
[11:44] <baash05_> Keep loosing my connection
[11:45] <baash05_> When installing.. if I pick to install extras. it freezes.. Is this normal?
[11:46] <EriC^^> no
[11:46] <OerHeks> baash05_, not if it does not carry on with installation
[11:46] <EriC^^> baash05_: checksum the .iso
[11:47] <baash05_> It seemed totally frozen for a while.
[11:47] <OerHeks> Some parts can take huge processorpower
[11:47] <OerHeks> oh a while, so it continues?
[11:47] <baash05_> If I turn off the extras.. it installs fine.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> baash05_, suggest you do normal install and grab the extras in post-install
[11:48] <baash05_> Yeah, did that..
[11:49] <baash05_> all good.. but still troubling that I had to. .
[11:49] <EriC^^> did you checksum the .iso?
[11:53] <joshua__> EriC^^: also kinda a solution for me is to use bropages
[11:54] <treybul> hello - I'm trying to remove a program but getting an error. When i type "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xephyr "  I get "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)" & "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:54] <treybul> "
[11:54] <treybul> can someone help with above?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | treybul
[11:55] <OerHeks> treybul, that error occurs when you have softwarecenter open, and remove things in terminal
[11:55] <OerHeks> only one instance to apt-get is allowed
[11:56] <treybul> oh ok - i do have the software centre open
[11:56] <treybul> i'll close it and try again
[11:56] <treybul> It worked thanks
[11:56] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:57] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[11:58] <treybul> the reason I installed xephyr is because I wanted a seperate window that displayed other windows(apps) within that window. I couldn't get it to work. Can someone recommend an alternative?
[12:01] <treybul> I'm wondering if you have "Nvidia X server Settings", in the configuration can I assign different monitors to different desktop sessions?
[12:02] <treybul> if that makes sense??
[12:02] <BluesKaj> hi OerHeks
[12:07] <Mudit> irc.mozilla.org
[12:09] <Nectar> Ive installed and configured an Ubuntu on my laptop. How can i copy it to my desktop?
[12:10] <EriC^^> Nectar: uefi?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> !clone | Nectar
[12:13] <AbuDhar> Hey :D
[12:14] <AbuDhar> Just wanted to say that I have been using Ubuntu for a long time now and on a laptop that is 5 years old. Still running smoothly :)
[12:18] <AbuDhar> With Windows my laptop would have been dead now :)
[12:18] <guest190> bad new now. I get 15.04(
[12:18] <AbuDhar> I remember how slow Windows 8.1 was running on it.
[12:20] <daftykins> AbuDhar: i hope you're running LTS :P
[12:21] <AbuDhar> is 14.10 LTS?
[12:22] <guest190> 15.04 lts?
[12:22] <AbuDhar> or was it 14.04?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> AbuDhar  cat /etc/issue
[12:22] <AbuDhar> I am running ... 2 sec
[12:23] <daftykins> AbuDhar: 14.10 is dead already, EOL. 14.04 is LTS :)
[12:23] <AbuDhar> 14.04.2 LTS
[12:23] <AbuDhar> it says here :D
[12:23] <AbuDhar> so I have the LTS
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> AbuDhar  good, stick to it
[12:24] <AbuDhar> I will.
[12:24] <guest190> ok... need some light and stable os for learning c and asm. what to use?
[12:25] <kiloreux> you can use arch
[12:25] <kiloreux> a very good OS for learning
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> guest190  general linux questions in ##linux
[12:25] <AbuDhar> Arch? :D
[12:26] <AbuDhar> or Fedora maybe.
[12:26] <kiloreux> yes i  am however sticking to ubuntu
[12:26] <kiloreux> yet i have tried most of OS distributions
[12:27] <junior> hi
[12:27] <kiloreux> But Arch has some learning curve
[12:27] <gsb> hello
[12:27] <AbuDhar> You can use any dist :)
[12:28] <kiloreux> so you might find it difficult at the beginning if you are not experienced with linux
[12:28] <guest190> ubuntu so convertable
[12:28] <plastic> a friend installed Ubuntu -his first Linux-, apparently in command line mode only; what are the steps to install gnome/kde and run X by default?
[12:28] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; for KDE
[12:29] <daftykins> plastic: must've installed mini.iso or server
[12:29] <plastic> auch, I'll ask him; thank you daftykins
[12:29] <guest190> kde/gnome/xfce/lxde )))  cli only
[12:30] <AbuDhar> well he can search for packages :) how was it? sudo apt-cache search <package> ? :D
[12:30] <pwuertz> Hi, my new mainboard boots from uefi only and I'm having trouble converting my ubuntu 15.04 installation to uefi boot. I managed to boot from usb, convert from MBR to GPT and ran grub-efi install from the live system.
[12:30] <daftykins> guest190: you're typing nonsensical rubbish, stop please :)
[12:30] <plastic> ok, he has those 4 options; thanks guest190
[12:30] <junior> alguem fala br ae
[12:30] <daftykins> AbuDhar: no sudo, no
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> !br
[12:30] <pwuertz> The system kinf of boots, but it stops at a grub shell. Any idea what to do from here on?
[12:31] <daftykins> pwuertz: sounds like you skipped a stage. boot the live session again and fix it
[12:31] <AbuDhar> plastic, there are many more DEs than that :P
[12:31] <pwuertz> daftykins: any up tp date guide you can recommend?
[12:31] <daftykins> !efi | pwuertz
[12:32] <plastic> yes, AbuDhar, there are a lot :)
[12:33] <guest190> why we say about desktop? I ask about system
[12:33] <kiloreux> What do you think about Unity vs Gnome people ?
[12:33] <kiloreux> i found that Unity is much resources consuming then Gnome
[12:33] <daftykins> guest190: ask a proper question
[12:33] <meatie> kiloreux, please dont start that debate.
[12:33] <kiloreux> hahaha okay Meatie :P
[12:33] <guest190> unity sack and new gnome so slow
[12:33] <daftykins> kiloreux: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, support questions only in here.
[12:33] <AbuDhar> I don't like Unity!
[12:34] <daftykins> _drop it_ now
[12:34] <kiloreux> okay people my first time here , forgive me :P
[12:34] <meatie> 24 hour cease-fire plz
[12:35] <plastic> in case he installed mini.iso, do you recommend to start the full installation again or apt-get would be enough? he's new to Linux
[12:35] <guest190> ... need os for learning/programming on c and asm. arduino and android supported...
[12:36] <daftykins> plastic: as long as it's online, just apt-get install a DE and it'll be the same as desktop.
[12:36] <plastic> nice; thanks daftykins
[12:36] <kiloreux> guest190 ubuntu , fedora , centos , debian , kali  and much more , all of them satisfy your needs .
[12:36] <daftykins> plastic: but perhaps you should ask how your friend made such a massive mistake
[12:36] <plastic> I'll do it for sure :)
[12:36] <Guest17572> salve a volte il mio browser rimane in loop, come posso terminare il processo?
[12:36] <daftykins> guest190: this is an ubuntu channel, your question is more welcome in ##linux
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> guest190  how is your questin ubuntu related?
[12:37] <daftykins> !es
[12:37] <meatie> guest190, FC22 or stripped down debian/ubuntu.
[12:37] <plastic> he's italian
[12:37] <Ninjablaster> :)
[12:37] <plastic> I mean Guest25215
[12:37] <daftykins> i never was too hot on spotting languages
[12:37] <guest190> when kali stand desktop stable version?
[12:37] <meatie> i do all those things and more and i'm happy with my toolsets on here
[12:37] <guest190> who use fedora?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> guest190  none of your questions are ubuntu related
[12:38] <meatie> between fbsd/fc22/ubuntu.
[12:38] <OerHeks> guest190, why?
[12:38] <guest190> i don't learn wm or web. so why centos?
[12:38] <meatie> centos is not going to be a dev. environment
[12:38] <Ninjablaster> this is weird, guest190
[12:38] <OerHeks> guest190, why centos?
[12:38] <meatie> don't take that as advice
[12:39] <OerHeks> guest190 do you know you are in ubuntu support irc?
[12:39] <guest190> on debian it will be deadline incase supporting and updating
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> guest190  you're in the wrong channel
[12:39] <daftykins> guest190: please join ##linux and stop talking about other distributions in here
[12:39] <meatie> go with FC22
[12:39] <ren0v0> Hi, how would one go about making ubuntu generate a thumbnail cache on a SMB share or NFS mount ?
[12:39] <daftykins> meatie: stop enabling it please.
[12:39] <meatie> i told him ubuntu also.
[12:39] <meatie> you know people come here for others to change their minds.
[12:40] <daftykins> whoop-de-doo Basil.
[12:40] <daftykins> just let the conversation change channel like it should...
[12:40] <meatie> what?
[12:40] <meatie> so we are forbidden from speaking about other distros?
[12:40] <daftykins> the topic is better suited to the main ##linux channel
[12:41] <daftykins> we keep it clear for SUPPORT here.
[12:41] <OerHeks> meatie, it is offtopic
[12:41] <daftykins> if you've got a problem with that, you too can find pastures greener.
[12:41] <Ninjablaster> agree with daftykins... :)
[12:41] <meatie> ok
[12:41] <guest190> i type about "what version of ubuntu will be nice for learning c, asm, andriod, arduino. so stable and so light"
[12:41] <guest190> I am on true channel
[12:41] <daftykins> guest190: yes now leave and ask again in ##linux please.
[12:41] <daftykins> for the THIRD time
[12:41] <meatie> thats not allowed here
[12:42] <ren0v0> Is it possible you can stop arguing with this guy and maybe consider my genuine question ?
[12:42] <meatie> you mentioned others, or something.
[12:42] <meatie> but just join #linux
[12:42] <meatie> they'll help
[12:42] <guest190> trolling
[12:42] <daftykins> ren0v0: can't help you hence not replying. and don't use that tone.
[12:42] <kiloreux_> you are wasting people's time guest190
[12:43] <meatie> no he isn't lmao
[12:43] <ren0v0> daftykins, seriously, lol. Don't talk to me like that.
[12:43] <daftykins> ren0v0: too late.
[12:43] <OerHeks> ren0v0, thumbnails over samba share? that gives a huge datatraffic, and slows samba further as it is slow already
[12:43] <ren0v0> damn internet hardmen
[12:43] <ren0v0> OerHeks, everytime i change DIR it takes an age loading thumbs, is it not possible to do this once and have a cache?
[12:43] <daftykins> ren0v0: it's volunteer run in here, don't act so entitled.
[12:44] <AbuDhar> if I ask daftykins he will help me ren0v0 :P
[12:44] <daftykins> nope
[12:44] <OerHeks> ren0v0, yes, told you, huge datatraffic, and i don't know about cache, it gets wiped here after use
[12:44] <daftykins> AbuDhar: don't get involved.
[12:44] <ren0v0> OerHeks, hmm, any idea what would remove the cache? nautilus?
[12:45] <Kira9204> guest190: ubuntu variation does nog matter, if you want something lightweight go for xfce
[12:45] <ren0v0> daftykins, maybe try going outside, things are different in the real world
[12:45] <meatie> app_armor could be restricting it
[12:45] <meatie> because it might be running under a diff permission
[12:45] <Kira9204> guest190: just code
[12:45] <meatie> thats a wild guess, happened locally not on a share.
[12:45] <meatie> audit your logs and see.
[12:46] <AbuDhar> ren0v0, be careful :P you will be banned soon hehe
[12:47] <ren0v0> AbuDhar, i don't care for being told how to act when i'm not acting out of line, its just an ego thing, move on
[12:47] <guest190> and why my gnome 15.04 so slow on i5?
[12:47] <joshua__> not slow for me
[12:47] <kiloreux_> not slow for me either
[12:47] <meatie> you could in asm/c... get to debugging buddy :)
[12:48] <ren0v0> OerHeks, i would look into samba and thumbnail caching but this also applies to NFS
[12:48] <kiloreux_> please stop with these subjective questions
[12:48] <kiloreux_> guest190
[12:48] <meatie> kiloreux_, you need to chill.
[12:48] <AbuDhar> what's the new stuff in 15.04?
[12:48] <meatie> its a valid question
[12:48] <AbuDhar> what has improved?
[12:48] <OerHeks> ren0v0, sure, creating thumbnails gives huge datatrafffic, disable it if you want speed
[12:49] <ioria> joshua__, i made a little script to download manpages... if you are still interested
[12:49] <Kira9204> guest190: have you installed gpu drivers?
[12:49] <Kira9204>  /preopetary nvidia/amd
[12:49] <kiloreux_> hahaha i am naturally serious @meatie :P
[12:49] <joshua__> cool
[12:49] <AbuDhar> proprietary Kira9204 :D
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> AbuDhar  any review can tell you 'what's new'
[12:49] <guest190> bubuntu downl center use all cpu and memory on 10 loadings ... wtf?
[12:49] <meatie> sudo aa-complain usr.bin.totem-previewers
[12:49] <meatie> that will allow thumbs.
[12:50] <meatie> if apparmor is the one blocking them.
[12:50] <ren0v0> OerHeks, yes i've gone down this route before but this doesn't help with how i want to use the remote share. Are you not aware of any server side caching mechanism? why woudn't a thumb.db be created? or am i misinterpreting how that works
[12:50] <joshua__> ircnode0: gist/pastebin?
[12:50] <AbuDhar> I am guessing that SystemD is default on the new Ubuntu version :)
[12:50] <OerHeks> ren0v0, use a mediaplayer like kodi(formar xbmc) or a photo app for that, they can hold the cache.
[12:50] <meatie> AbuDhar, you can use systemd or anything your heart desires.
[12:50] <Kira9204> AbuDhar: haha, yeah, i always have trouble spelling that
[12:50] <meatie> upstart works just fine also.
[12:51] <Kira9204> :)
[12:51] <ren0v0> OerHeks, thats a nice suggestion, i'll give that a go for my laptop, however that wouldn't help with multiple devices, shame there isn't a mechanism for this that would be server-side
[12:51] <ioria> joshua__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11979432/     give it a look ... small  but it works :þ
[12:52] <OerHeks> maybe there is, i haven't found it..
[12:53] <ren0v0> OerHeks, real shame, would be nice to pre-generate thumbnails
[12:53] <meatie> a process creates the thumbnails.
[12:53] <meatie> obviously something is blocking it
[12:54] <meatie> ubuntu channel, so I gave you the name of the process which handles it.
[12:54] <meatie> dmesg also helps
[12:54] <AbuDhar> meatie, yeah it probably does.. which one boots faster? Upstart or systemd?
[12:54] <meatie> sudo systemd-analyze time
[12:54] <meatie> Startup finished in 3.643s (firmware) + 10.185s (loader) + 6.716s (kernel)
[12:55] <meatie> user-space takes about 45 seconds due to this being a dev box running giant DB's
[12:55] <meatie> but entirely, its fast enough.
[12:56] <lordievader> o/
[12:56] <AbuDhar> that's not that fast :P
[12:56] <meatie> 19 seconds?
[12:56] <AbuDhar> hmm...
[12:56] <AbuDhar> my Ubuntu box boots faster I think.
[12:56] <meatie> yeah, I have my own kernel modules I wrote
[12:57] <meatie> and many other things just someone like I would need.
[12:57] <AbuDhar> okay :) cool..
[12:57] <treybul> if you have dual monitors is it possible to display a different DE on each display?
[12:57] <treybul> if you have dual monitors is it possible to display a different DE on each monitor*?
[12:57] <meatie> AbuDhar, do systemd-analyze time
[12:57] <meatie> see what it says
[12:58] <deliad> i'm getting my usb souncard working with alsa thru jack in lmms
[12:58] <meatie> treybul, DE?
[12:58] <deliad> how i can use it in the whole system as default sound device?
[12:58] <lordievader> treybul: Yes, run two X instances.
[12:58] <treybul> DE = desktop environment. For example, i want lxde on one monitor, and kde on the other
[12:58] <treybul> @ meatie
[12:58] <guest190> scrafl! chanel for noob's
[12:58] <AbuDhar> meatie, I don't think I have it
[12:59] <AbuDhar> I am not using 15.04
[12:59] <meatie> treybul, ... KVM switch
[12:59] <meatie> :P
[12:59] <treybul> lordievader, what's the easiest way to do this? I have looked into xeyphr but no luck
[12:59] <meatie> or virtualization
[12:59] <meatie> that'd be funny.
[13:00] <treybul> KVM switch?
[13:00] <meatie> meaning two machines
[13:00] <meatie> i wouldnt waste my time configuring one machine for that
[13:00] <AbuDhar> Kernel Virtual Machine? :D
[13:00] <meatie> sounds like a lot of work
[13:00] <lordievader> treybul: You probably want to modify your lightdm script to start two instances of lightdm in a separate X server with a different xorg config.
[13:00] <treybul> I have nvidia x server  - can I do something via that?
[13:01] <AbuDhar> you probably can :)
[13:01] <guest190> treybul alt+f7 and poocorn for me
[13:02] <treybul> sounds complicated lordievader
[13:02] <lordievader> treybul: Nvidia X server is a driver (and bad naming on nVidia's part). You want a custom config of X.
[13:02] <treybul> any app that helps automate that?
[13:02] <AbuDhar> lol I didn't know that command guest190 :D
[13:02] <lordievader> treybul: Of course, it is non-standard ;)
[13:02] <meatie> our advice is to stop looking at your DE
[13:02] <meatie> and use cli
[13:02] <AbuDhar> treybul, write your own app
[13:03] <treybul> lol
[13:03] <lordievader> No need to write an app, just configure X.
[13:03] <AbuDhar> Write a script that configures it :)
[13:03] <AbuDhar> and then sell it.
[13:03] <treybul> is there a script or something?
[13:04] <guest190> XD
[13:04] <AbuDhar> treybul, I think you have to edit xorg.. Why does X still exist btw? :P
[13:04] <guest190> man x
[13:04] <meatie> i'm curous what you get out of doing that... seperate DE on each
[13:04] <meatie> never saw that before.
[13:04] <lordievader> AbuDhar: Because there ain't a real alternative yet.
[13:05] <AbuDhar> lordievader, I heard something about some newcomers? where did they go?
[13:05] <meatie> not to poke fun, but cause it sound silly
[13:05] <lordievader> treybul: To be honest, I don't think it is worth it. You get into lots of problems.
[13:05] <lordievader> AbuDhar: I don't really frequent this channel.
[13:05] <treybul> yes I agree. It's probably easier to use a virtual machine
[13:06] <meatie> i could set that up easily but
[13:06] <meatie> there's no way I am doing that.
[13:06] <AbuDhar> Have you maybe heard of wayland?
[13:06] <orion203> Hi
[13:07] <orion203> Can I use GSLB by Amazon Route 53 ?
[13:07] <treybul> how about this: is there an app that creates a blank window where i can drag and drop other program windows into it?
[13:07] <lordievader> treybul: Or properly configure your DE.
[13:07] <meatie> GSLB with what setup?
[13:07] <meatie> small setup?
[13:08] <AbuDhar> treybul, use a workspace? :P
[13:08] <ubuntu879> booted xubuntu 14.04 from usb on laptop but lan and wlan are disconnected. how do i enable them?
[13:08] <guest190> ifconfig eth0 up
[13:08] <treybul> can a workspace be used within a window?
[13:08] <guest190> ifconfig wlan up
[13:08] <AbuDhar> unfortunately I don't think Wayland supports Nvidia yet?
[13:08] <orion203> meatie : I have hosted server datacenter in different region.
[13:09] <meatie> yeah GSLB is a poor solution imo
[13:09] <meatie> if you are using AWS why not deal with their solutions.
[13:09] <orion203> meatie, but I need failover
[13:10] <meatie> amazon has better approaches
[13:10] <orion203> meatie, but I don't have any instance in aws
[13:10] <ubuntu879> guest190, first command accepted but looks like still not connected
[13:10] <orion203> I want failover like GSLB.
[13:11] <binarydepth> I have a weird problem. In Ubuntu GNOME. In the program GUI the letter "l" doesn't show. Right now when I write this message I can't see the letter "l" in the message
[13:11] <binarydepth> In the menus I can't see the "l" in "Help" it display "He p" instead
[13:11] <orion203> if I don't aws instance, I can't use Route 53 failover feature?
[13:12] <meatie> haproxy could be a simple solution.
[13:12] <meatie> and yes i believe so
[13:12] <meatie> (never tried without their services)
[13:12] <orion203> hmm
[13:12] <ubuntu879> okay ipconfig wlan up did the job.
[13:13] <meatie> is your services just webservers?
[13:13] <AbuDhar> binarydepth, check your graphics drivers
[13:13] <AbuDhar> I am using GNOME and I can see l fine
[13:13] <orion203> meatie: Yes, it is
[13:13] <guest190> ubuntu879 look's like you not get ip/ net don't sand?
[13:13] <orion203> http protocol only
[13:13] <meatie> then you will be fine with a simple solution.
[13:13] <meatie> won't be hard to setup.
[13:14] <ubuntu879> guest190, ?
[13:14] <orion203> meatie: but my heardware server set with L4
[13:14] <orion203> L4 set vip, hardware server run behind it.
[13:14] <binarydepth> AbuDhar : I used Gnome TWeak to switch the font and it's fixed but when I reboot the problem is there again. My Graphic driver is Ironlake Mobile
[13:15] <guest190> ubuntu879, type ifconfig
[13:15] <ubuntu879> okay
[13:15] <orion203> They located in different region such as A zone and B zone
[13:16] <ubuntu879> guest 190, command not found
[13:16] <guest190> cable pluget in? wifi router or other switched on?
[13:16] <meatie> orion203, ...
[13:16] <meatie> what we use is http://aws.amazon.com/route53/
[13:16] <meatie> and we are happy
[13:16] <orion203> I want to set Active - Active load balancing between A zone and B zone.
[13:16] <AbuDhar> binarydepth, and you have updated all of your drivers? as well as the OS? are you running 14.04?
[13:17] <meatie> Amazon Route 53 is a highly available and scalable cloud Domain Name System (DNS) web service.
[13:17] <meatie> and it allows for services outside of AWS.
[13:17] <guest190> nice) 14.04 forget ifconfig
[13:17] <orion203> meatie: Oh~ good..
[13:17] <meatie> what?
[13:17] <orion203> but, How to set up?
[13:17] <meatie> it's easy
[13:18] <ubuntu879> guest190, wlan switch on and cable plugged in but only wlan0 worked not eth0
[13:18] <meatie> login and go through their little wizard.
[13:18] <lordievader> guest190, ubuntu879: You'd want to use 'ip' instead of 'ifconfig', ifconfig is deprecated.
[13:18] <orion203> meatie: That's the problem on me...
[13:18] <guest190> typing ifconfig or ipconfig
[13:18] <orion203> confuse...
[13:19] <meatie> the problem being what? it's self explanatory.
[13:19] <meatie> it'll ask you which are your endpoints
[13:19] <lordievader> If you want more reasons not to use ifconfig: http://inai.de/2008/02/19
[13:19] <meatie> read the docs you'll get it.
[13:19] <guest190> lordievader, ipconfig on dos* not in 14.04 as I know
[13:19] <orion203> meatie: ok, I will more try it.
[13:20] <lordievader> guest190: 'ipconfig' is a Windows command.
[13:20] <meatie> i wouldn't steer you the wrong way orion203
[13:20] <meatie> should be fine.
[13:20] <guest190> lordievader, as I say)
[13:20] <ubuntu879> i'll try to download testdisk
[13:21] <orion203> meatie: ok, Thanks a lot.
[13:21] <meatie> np you're welcome
[13:24] <ntz> hello
[13:24] <guest190> hey noob's! how to build own cloud?
[13:24] <meatie> owncloud
[13:24] <meatie> .org
[13:24] <ntz> I don't have ubuntu here to test it, does ubu support a booting to specific runlevel from kernel command line ? eg if you append in grub at kernel command line 3, it should boot to runlevel 3
[13:25] <meatie> simple to setup
[13:25] <guest190> own        ____          cloud
[13:25] <guest190> private cloud
[13:25] <Hanra> can someone help me work through a grub issue?
[13:25] <meatie> ntz as far as i recall that would not be an issue.
[13:26] <Waddup> i have an ubuntu server 14.04 with 4 3TB WD Red setup in raid 0+1 and separated 1tb Regular for OS Drive. now everytime i save from it after i close the file i save it becomes corrupted. is it because probably my drives have bad sector or because there is somethign wrong with my setup?
[13:26] <ntz> meatie: ok, thanks ... si does it work ?
[13:26] <ntz> s/si/so/
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Waddup  try #ubuntu-server
[13:26] <linux|newb> could I be reminded of the channel for less rigid ubuntu conversation?
[13:26] <meatie> i could load a vm and try but i'm sure you'd get it done faster :P
[13:26] <Waddup> oh alright thanks
[13:27] <daftykins> ntz: runlevels aren't used in ubuntu
[13:27] <ntz> meatie: I don;t have ubu here, sorry ... only seeking for an answer
[13:28] <ntz> daftykins: I know, but the most of distros still emulate them via systemd.targets
[13:28] <ubuntu879> Okay, so i downloaded and installed TestDisk on xubuntu 14.04. Can somebody tell me how to recover data from formatted partitions using TestDisk?
[13:28] <daftykins> ntz: you can replace 'quiet splash' with 'text' to boot without X?
[13:28] <ntz> for instance it works here in my suse, if I append 3 at kernel cmdline, it boots to some non-graphical target
[13:29] <daftykins> i doubt it to be honest
[13:29] <ntz> daftykins: # who -r
[13:29] <ntz>          run-level 5  2015-07-26 11:12
[13:29] <ntz> ^^ in my systemd enabled suse
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu879  scroll down http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[13:29] <daftykins> ntz: i'm talking about with ubuntu - i'm not doubting your claims of your own setup
[13:29] <ntz> daftykins: same with el7 (eg rhel 7.x)
[13:30] <ntz> ah, sorry
[13:30] <OerHeks> ntz, ubuntu is limited in runlevels AFAIK
[13:31] <ubuntu879> MonkeyDust, ty
[13:31] <ntz> from what I know, ubu still supports runlevels somehow .... init 0 and init 6 works
[13:31] <ubuntu879> i am out
[13:31] <meatie> quick scan of google..
[13:31] <meatie> looks like it will work
[13:31] <meatie> i'm not reading every result
[13:31] <ntz> yeah, I was asking only for a confirmation
[13:31] <meatie> cant hurty to try
[13:33] <baash05> Hey guys..
[13:33] <daftykins> hello
[13:33] <meatie> hi
[13:34] <baash05> I tried to run sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[13:34] <linux|newb> anyone got a recommendation for a clean (modern and fresh) html5/css IDE (please try and reserve suggestions for vi)
[13:34] <baash05> it froze my box for a long long time
[13:34] <OerHeks> !ide
[13:34] <OerHeks> !editor
[13:35] <baash05> I eventually pulled the power and formatted.. Now I'm here to ask if anyone has gotten past this?
[13:35] <meatie> html/css... sublime text?
[13:35] <daftykins> baash05: afaik that's only one approach to grabbing broadcom drivers
[13:36] <linux|newb> cheers :)
[13:36] <baash05> It froze my system at the initramfs update
[13:36] <meatie> another runner up would be eclipse
[13:36] <balance2> hi
[13:37] <baash05> I'm currently running the same install via software center
[13:37] <linux|newb> !html
[13:37] <baash05> I'm not frozen, but it seems stalled.
[13:37] <Ice_Strike> Does ubuntu come with  remotely app by defult? Or I have to install something like VNC?
[13:37] <balance2> Does anyone know if there are fully working drivers for the thinkpad pro dock ? (on a thinkpad yoga)
[13:37] <Ice_Strike> VNC Server
[13:38] <OerHeks> Ice_Strike, yes, there is a remote desktop service standard. not enabled.
[13:38] <meatie> it has built-in VNC capabilities
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> linux|newb  theres also this ... the templates don't work, tho ... http://bluegriffon.org/
[13:38] <Ice_Strike> OerHeks Where do I find this?
[13:39] <Ice_Strike> I am using version 12
[13:39] <OerHeks> Ice_Strike, type 'remote" in search ?
[13:40] <plastic> daftykins: the massive mistake of my friend was that he didn't see the "Not now, take me to the download ›", so he thought he had to pay and googled alternatives; mistery solved :)
[13:41] <baash05> daftykins: would it make sense that that froze a new install?
[13:41] <daftykins> plastic: ah-har
[13:41] <linux|newb> MonkeyDust: cheers
[13:41] <daftykins> baash05: depends on the device
[13:41] <baash05> mac book pro
[13:41] <baash05> Bloody thing is so much trouble.
[13:42] <Ice_Strike> OerHeks That work. Thanks bro.
[13:42] <daftykins> baash05: ah i was about to say 'Apple, all bets are off'
[13:42] <daftykins> baash05: was there a wiki page for your model?
[13:43] <daftykins> !mac
[13:43] <baash05> Nope.. all wikis are too old
[13:43] <baash05> I love that ubottu.. useless.
[13:43] <baash05> :)
[13:43] <OerHeks> baash05, so your mbp is too new?
[13:44] <AndroidHacker> anyone know a way to prevent usb drives from automounting.. ive already tried the dconf editor method but its not working.. it still automounts and opens
[13:44] <baash05> Yep.. the wiki only goes up to version 10..
[13:44] <baash05> There are empy pages for 11
[13:44] <baash05> but I'm on 12
[13:44] <meatie> in Ubuntu you need to goto System Settings
[13:45] <meatie> then Details
[13:45] <meatie> then Removable media
[13:45] <baash05> Crap bit is.. fedora works out of the box.
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> AndroidHacker  is this useful http://hardenubuntu.com/disable-services/disable-autofs/
[13:45] <baash05> I just don't like gnome3
[13:45] <meatie> i just told him how.
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> baash05  then don't use it
[13:46] <baash05> The other flavors don't support the dpi.. I tried messing with the settings.
[13:46] <Matt_teni> guys does librecalc run laggy for anyone else here?
[13:46] <AndroidHacker> meatie, haha that seem to have worked thanks
[13:47] <baash05> Ubuntu (all flavours) and f22gnome work well with the screen.
[13:47] <AndroidHacker> MonkeyDust, thanks too
[13:47] <meatie> thats why I told ya about it. ur welcome.
[13:47] <baash05> But ubuntu can't connect to wifi.
[13:47] <daftykins> baash05: you read the alternatives on the broadcom page i take it?
[13:47] <daftykins> !broadcom
[13:48] <meatie> if Ubuntu couldnt connect to wireless... it'd be.. never used.
[13:48] <baash05> daftykins: Nope..
[13:48] <daftykins> oh dear.
[13:48] <baash05> mate.. I mean it don't connect to wifi on mac book pro.. I'm running mate on two other boxes.. all good.
[13:49] <baash05> daftykins: what other options I got?
[13:49] <OerHeks> fedora does not give you BCM drivers OOTB too, baash05
[13:49] <daftykins> baash05: the ones in the link above. i'm not reading it for you...
[13:49] <baash05> Oh.. from ubottu.. cool  I'd not expect it.
[13:50] <baash05> Thanks.. I'll dig into it.
[13:51] <baash05> DerHeks: fedora22 ran right out of the box.. fully supported mac hardware.
[13:51] <baash05> well except for the fn key.
[13:52] <meatie> fc22 is a beast.
[13:52] <meatie> i have a FC2 book sitting on my shelf. I feel old.
[13:55] <daftykins> meatie: i'm detecting this off topic theme from you ongoing :P
 +DerHeks: fedora22 ran right out of the box.. fully supported mac hardware.
[13:56] <meatie> hope you're joking. heh.
[13:58] <Hanra> Hi, I'm having a grub issue. Eric^^, I've been sent your way. Do you have time to help and has daftykins told you what's going on?
[13:58] <EriC^^> Hanra: yeah sure
[13:58] <EriC^^> Hanra: do you get a grub rescue or grub> ?
[13:59] <Hanra> grub rescue>
[13:59] <EriC^^> oh ok
[13:59] <EriC^^> what happened before that? how'd this happen?
[13:59] <cloudcell_> Hello everyone! I am switching from Windows to linux and I am struggling with mouse pointer behavior. Is there a way to make a mouse pointer behave as it does on Windows? (i.e. pixels of the pointer must become inverted on underlying pixels of the same color). The reason I need this is that I often cannot select text properly using the thick text selection
[13:59] <cloudcell_> mouse pointers.
[14:00] <Hanra> Eric^^ I dual boot Windows 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04 on this laptop. Recent windows update happened
[14:00] <EriC^^> i see
[14:00] <EriC^^> ok, type ls in grub
[14:01] <EriC^^> Hanra: do you use uefi?
[14:01] <Hanra> So we've got (hd0) with gpts from 1 to 8 and cd0
[14:01] <Hanra> and tbh I'm not sure whether I use uefi but quite possibly
[14:01] <Hanra> (hd0,6) is the one which is legible
[14:01] <EriC^^> yeah i think so too
[14:01] <Hanra> set has root set to hd0,gpt5
[14:02] <Hanra> and prefix to (hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub even though all the modules are in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi
[14:02] <EriC^^> ok, do you have a live .iso file somewhere in your ubuntu partition or windows?
[14:02] <Hanra> where would I find it in the ubuntu partition?
[14:03] <EriC^^> maybe /home/<your user>/Downloads
[14:03] <Hanra> oh, I see
[14:03] <Hanra> I can still access the windows side of things, would it help for me download one?
[14:04] <plastic> cloudcell_: I don't have ubuntu, but there must be a way to change the pointer theme
[14:04] <EriC^^> hold on, we'll try first if we can boot from grub rescue
[14:04] <linuxuz3r> whats a good voice recorder
[14:04] <plastic> cloudcell_: look in the configuration of your desktop environment
[14:04] <Ice_Strike> cd: /etc/asterisk/: Permission denied
[14:05] <EriC^^> Hanra: type configfile (hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:05] <Ice_Strike> How to view it?
[14:05] <Ice_Strike> I tried su root
[14:05] <Ice_Strike> that dont work
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> linuxuz3r  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated
[14:05] <Hanra> Eric^^: Unknown command 'configfile'
[14:06] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, try insmod normal
[14:06] <cloudcell_> thanks plastic, I just can change sets of pointers but they don't behave as they do on windows
[14:06] <Hanra> Eric^^ error: unknown filesystem
[14:06] <Hanra> Eric^^ shall I set root to hd0,gpt6?
[14:06] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, try ls (hd0,gpt5)/ what do you see?
[14:07] <Hanra> error : unknown filesystem
[14:07] <alimj> Ice_Strike: "sudo -i" (Use at your own risk) and "exit" to be back in user mode
[14:07] <plastic> cloudcell_: I don't know if you can install another theme that inverts the colors; maybe someone can tell (or google)
[14:07] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, try ls (hd0,gpt6)/
[14:07] <cloudcell_> tried that, so far no luck, plastic
[14:08] <Hanra> Eric^^: That looks better.
[14:08] <EriC^^> what's in there?
[14:08] <plastic> cloudcell_: ask in the channel of that DE
[14:08] <Hanra> ./ ../ lost+found/ boot/ etc/ media/ var/ bin/ ...
[14:09] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, type ls (hd0,gpt6)/boot , do you see the initrd and vmlinuz files?
[14:09] <Ice_Strike> alimj thanks bro.
[14:09] <Hanra> Eric^^ : Several, vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic for example?
[14:10] <EriC^^> ok
[14:10] <Hanra> There is an initrd and vmlinuz file in (hd0,gpt6)/ too
[14:10] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, type set root='hd0,gpt6'
[14:11] <Hanra> done
[14:11] <EriC^^> if you type ls -l
[14:11] <EriC^^> does it mention hd0,gpt6's uuid?
[14:11] <Hanra> error: bad filename
[14:11] <EriC^^> or just ls (hd0,gpt6) ?
[14:12] <Hanra> does it need a trailing slash?
[14:12] <EriC^^> no
[14:12] <Hanra> ok, then I just get error: bad filename when I do ls (hd0,gpt6)
[14:13] <Hanra> when I do ls (hd0,gpt6)/ it lists directories but no UUID
[14:13] <Hanra> I have a good guess as to what the UUID is though
[14:13] <Hanra> as in when I read the HDD from my pi I note the UUID and it matched what was in grub.cfg
[14:13] <meatie> blkid
[14:13] <meatie> to grab uuid
[14:14] <meatie> was that on-topic daftykins ?
[14:14] <EriC^^> Hanra: you have it?
[14:15] <Hanra> Eric^^ yes
[14:15] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, try set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub
[14:16] <Hanra> done
[14:16] <EriC^^> try insmod normal
[14:16] <Hanra> error: file not found
[14:16] <Hanra> does it matter that all the .mod files are in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi ?
[14:17] <EriC^^> i have them there too
[14:17] <EriC^^> try maybe insmod (hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/normal.mod
[14:17] <Hanra> error: file not found
[14:18] <Hanra> just checking to make sure normal.mod is in there
[14:19] <Hanra> the file is definitely there
[14:19] <EriC^^> ok, try set root=(hd0,gpt6)/boot
[14:19] <Hanra> done
[14:20] <EriC^^> try insmod normal
[14:20] <Hanra> error: file not found
[14:20] <nonamae> Hi! Is this a correct sentence? 私には夢があります。Meaning  have a dream, right?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> Hanra  what was your initial question?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> nonamae, wrong channel.
[14:20] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, try set boot=(hd0,gpt6)/boot
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> !cn | nonamae
[14:21] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: he has a grub rescue> after updating windows, can't boot a live usb as usb booting is off and bios is locked with a password
[14:21] <Hanra> Eric^^ : done. insmod normal still gives a file not found error
[14:21] <cfhowlett> can't bios be unlocked by removing battery and crossing the contacts or something?
[14:21] <nonamae> ooo wrong channel, pardon, (japanese anyway)
[14:22] <daftykins> from full disassemble, ja
[14:22] <meatie> bios password should be disabled if you are using uefi in some cases
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !jp | nonamae
[14:22] <EriC^^> Hanra: try set boot=(hd0,gpt6)
[14:22] <Carolin> hey all
[14:22] <EriC^^> sorry, i've not used grub rescue, so bare with me
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !  "bear"
[14:22] <Carolin> Is it possible to provide a list of URLs for curl/wget to download, and host it on a webpage that curl can get?
[14:23] <Carolin> So i can have something like "http://mysite.com/allStaticFiles"
[14:23] <Hanra> Eric^^ No need to apologise, I really appreciate the help anyway and you sound pretty knowledgeable
[14:23] <meatie> the first part i understand... and 'host it' ?
[14:23] <Carolin> and thats a list of files for curl/wget
[14:23] <meatie> yeah.
[14:23] <meatie> curl --recursive etc
[14:23] <Carolin> oh cool, how?
[14:23] <Carolin> --recursive? awesome :D
[14:23] <Carolin> Thanks Meatie!
[14:24] <Hanra> Eric^^ : Anyway, set boot=(hd0,gpt6) and ran insmod normal again to the same error
[14:24] <meatie> for i in $(cat sites); do
[14:24] <meatie>  curl site-$i -o path
[14:24] <meatie> done
[14:24] <meatie> i dont know what you want exactly
[14:25] <Hanra> Eric^^ : Btw, I tried setting prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi previously and that got an error about missing symbol grub_divmod64
[14:25] <meatie> yeah i didnt add recursive
[14:25] <meatie> man curl
[14:25] <EriC^^> Hanra: did you try prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub ?
[14:25] <meatie> im tired
[14:25] <Carolin> hahah
[14:28] <Hanra> Eric^^: File not found
[14:29] <Hanra> eric^^ I think I tried just prefix=/boot/grub before
[14:31] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, try linux (hd0,gpt6)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic root=UUID=<uuid>
[14:31] <EriC^^> maybe it'll work
[14:32] <Hanra> Eric^^ I'll need to insmod linux first
[14:32] <EriC^^> insmod linux works?
[14:32] <Hanra> It does if I set prefix to /boot/grub/x86_64-efi but then insmod was only working for certain modules and I thought it a bit fishy
[14:33] <EriC^^> ok well try it
[14:34] <AppAraat> hello, I'm trying to configure skype not to have blue flicker (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1078068) the last post on there suggests setting xorg.conf's DefaultDepth to 16. I've noticed that I didn't have a xorg.conf so I made one with only that line (bad idea lol). So now I'm looking for the best practice of generating a xorg.conf for my machine. This is my lshw -
[14:34] <AppAraat> http://apaste.info/IG5
[14:35] <Hanra> Eric^^: Error: premature end of file (hd0,gpt6)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-57-generic.
[14:35] <daftykins> AppAraat: looking online for example files would be handy, the minimum content you can get away with, the better
[14:35] <cfhowlett> AppAraat, it's a bug. it's been reported.  it's not yet fixed.  are you volunteering to fix it?
[14:37] <EriC^^> Hanra: hmm
[14:38] <Hanra> Eric^^ sorry if this is a bit weird but why is root being set to gpt5 in the first place?
[14:38] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[14:38] <EriC^^> where's it being set?
[14:39] <Hanra> When I first get to this grub rescue prompt and run "set" I see that *somewhere* root has been set to gpt5 rather than gpt6
[14:39] <Hanra> when I look in load.cfg though it looks like it's searching for the right UUID and assigning it to root (the first line of the file is search.fs_uuid <THE UUID> root)
[14:40] <Hanra> and when I look in grub.cfg it's always set root=(hd0,gpt6) rather than gpt5
[14:41] <Hanra> this may be completely unrelated and hopefully fixed by update-grub when I eventually get in
[14:41] <AppAraat> cfhowlett: I wouldn't know how or where to begin with. I think I'll go with that xorg workaround. It has also been recommended to me to install the official Intel drivers (https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads?keys=&download_type=11&download_version=All) but that would require me to rebuild them every time the kernel changed.
[14:41] <EriC^^> Hanra: actually they should be the same
[14:42] <Hanra> Eric^^: What should be the same?
[14:42] <daftykins> AppAraat: don't do that. they're included in the kernel - REALLY bad idea.
[14:42] <EriC^^> Hanra: load.cfg should have gpt6
[14:43] <daftykins> AppAraat: which ubuntu version is this?
[14:43] <AppAraat> daftykins: ah thanks for the heads-up. It's Ubuntu minimal 14.04 with Lubuntu minimal desktop.
[14:43] <Hanra> Eric^^ : Not search.fs_uuid <UUID> root ? Should it be set root=(hd0,gpt6) instead?
[14:44] <AppAraat> I've already tried this method - http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-fix-webcam-problem-in-skype.html - but that doesn't solve the issue.
[14:44] <EriC^^> Hanra: this is what's on my system search.fs_uuid c65ac418-c145-4a7c-b965-1308aa595d24 root hd0,gpt5
[14:44] <EriC^^> set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub' on the second line, and grub uses gpt5 as my root in the grub.cfg
[14:44] <bedeho> Installed Ubuntu after preinstalled Win8, now booting Win8 no longer works, anyone with advice?
[14:44] <daftykins> AppAraat: which kernel?
[14:45] <AppAraat> Linux grandpc 3.13.0-61-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 11:22:15 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:45] <Hanra> Eric^^: set prefix=($root)/boot/grub on my side
[14:45] <AppAraat> daftykins: it's a very old computer, but it's meant for only skype calling and minimal browsing for my grandparents
[14:46] <Hanra> Eric^^: Should I change my load.cfg first line to have hd0,gpt6 after "root"?
[14:46] <EriC^^> Hanra: try rebooting a bit, i googled and it seems to get out of grub rescue you should set prefix=..../boot/grub then insmod normal
[14:46] <EriC^^> Hanra: if you can somehow, grub doesn't have a text editor i think
[14:46] <daftykins> AppAraat: ok
[14:47] <Hanra> Eric^^ I can take out my laptop's HDD and put it in an External HDD case then edit it using this pi
[14:47] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, first try to reboot
[14:48] <Hanra> Eric^^ have rebooted, settings we set previously have gone back to gpt5
[14:49] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[14:50] <Hanra> the "set" command gives prefix=(hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub and root=hd0,gpt5
[14:50] <Hanra> more an FYI than anything, I have rebooted a few times
[14:51] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok, type set root=(hd0,gpt6)
[14:51] <Hanra> done
[14:51] <EriC^^> and set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub
[14:51] <Hanra> insmod normal still a file not found
[14:51] <EriC^^> ok, try set root=(hd0,gpt6)/boot
[14:52] <EriC^^> then insmod linux
[14:52] <Hanra> Eric^^ : file not found
[14:53] <Hanra> shall I do-the-thing again to make insmod get files from /boot/grub/x86_64-efi?
[14:53] <Hanra> it's annoying that insmod normal doesn't work when I do that :(
[14:54] <EriC^^> ok give it a shot i guess
[14:54] <Hanra> ok, insmod linux worked
[14:55] <EriC^^> i was trying to follow this guy's post about getting a busybox from grub rescue http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/148041/recovering-from-grub-rescue-crash
[14:55] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Hanra 'search -f /vmlinuz ; search -f /sbin/init ' ??
[14:55] <EriC^^> ok, try just linux (hd0,gpt6)/boot/vmlinuz.. hit tab a few times pick a kernel other than 57
[14:56] <bsvxlv> Есть кто живой?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !ru | bsvxlv
[14:56] <bsvxlv> Ok
[14:57] <bsvxlv> Is anybody here?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> bsvxlv, ask your ubuntu questions
[14:57] <daftykins> yes hundreds.
[14:57] <Hanra> Eric^^ shall I still specify root=UUID...
[14:58] <EriC^^> Hanra: no, just trying to see if we'll get the busybox and edit load.cfg
[14:58] <EriC^^> plus we'll know if the kernel is wrong or insmod linux isn't right
[14:58] <bsvxlv> Can you tell me please, is there any irc-client that keeps msg-history in it?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> bsvxlv, hexchat does.  plus all convos are logged
[14:59] <Hanra> Eric^^ using -53- rather than -57- I got the same premature end of file thing
[14:59] <EriC^^> Hanra: i guess something is wrong with insmod linux
[15:00] <EriC^^> Hanra: you can't boot from cd right?
[15:00] <Hanra> Eric^^ Alas not
[15:00] <bsvxlv> cfhowlett, another question, if I may. How do I put in somebody's name in input-line without typing every time?
[15:00] <Hanra> Eric^^ but interesting, I'll try a few earlier kernels
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !tab | bsvxlv
[15:01] <bsvxlv> Thanks a lot. That's much more convenient.
[15:02] <EriC^^> Hanra: try set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/usr/lib/grub
[15:02] <EriC^^> Hanra: try to append x86_64-efi at the end too
[15:02] <EriC^^> then try insmod normal
[15:02] <Hanra> oooh
[15:03] <Hanra> awww
[15:04] <Hanra> Eric^^ Using prefix (hd0,6)/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi I get the error "symbol not found: `grub_divmod64` when I run insmod normal
[15:04] <EriC^^> ok
[15:04] <Hanra> and I get a file not found when I use just (hd0,6)/usr/lib/grub
[15:04] <Hanra> but I shall now try linux again justin case
[15:05] <Hanra> Eric^^: I get the same premature end of file error
[15:05] <Hanra> I did find a post talking about linuxefi, when I used the kernel there I got some magic error instead
[15:07] <EriC^^> Hanra: do you have a different grub you can boot to?
[15:07] <EriC^^> i mean how are you booting windows, uefi menu?
[15:08] <Hanra> I am selecting Windows Boot Manager from the Boot Option Menu
[15:09] <Hanra> I don't know if that's the UEFI menu
[15:09] <EriC^^> ok, do you have more than one grub there?
[15:09] <EriC^^> how are you reaching your current grub?
[15:09] <Hanra> current grub is being reached by just booting up
[15:09] <EriC^^> do you have grub in the menu?
[15:09] <Hanra> there are 111 entries in my boot manager interface (F12 during the boot process)
[15:10] <Hanra> and no, "grub" is not the name of an option there
[15:10] <Hanra> 109 are called "HDD: (<SOME SERIAL NUMBER)", 1 is "Ubuntu (SOME SERIAL NUMBER)" and 1 is "Windows Boot Manager (The serial number)"
[15:11] <EriC^^> ok, try booting ubuntu from there
[15:12] <Hanra> Takes me back to grub rescue with the "error: unknown filesystem" at the top
[15:12] <EriC^^> ok
[15:13] <EriC^^> Hanra: try typing search.fs_uuid <uuid> root hd0,gpt6
[15:13] <EriC^^> then set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub'
[15:13] <Hanra> unknown command search.fs_uuid
[15:14] <Hanra> one mo, will insmod
[15:14] <EriC^^> ok, try editing it in the pi maybe
[15:14] <Hanra> Okie dokie
[15:15] <Hanra> chat is likely to fill up with spam while I do this...
[15:19] <muculus> I have problem when I try to Bond virtual network interfaces in ubuntu : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11980300/
[15:19] <Hanra> Eric^^ could you repeat that change?
[15:20] <daftykins> muculus: ##networking might be handy if you get no reply.
[15:20] <EriC^^> Hanra: change gpt5 to gpt6
[15:20] <Hanra> so the line should now read :
[15:20] <Hanra> search.fs_uuid <blah> root hd0,gpt6
[15:20] <Hanra> ?
[15:21] <muculus> daftykins: I will try it now. :-)
[15:21] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:21] <Nokaji> My second burn on a blu Ray and my second failure. First time I didn't leave enough room for some error correction stuff it writes after the burn, this time I left 1.5GB approx space. It stopped at 22,268MiB out of 22,316MiB (closer than last time by I think 150MB). I can't see any clues in debug, it says 100% written. - Is 1.5GB spare really not enough for error correction? - Why won't this thing burn? Message is "Fatal error during recording:
[15:21] <alu> http://youropinioncounts.lenovo.com/s/34o9859/Survey4/
[15:21] <alu> vote for Linux / Ubuntu
[15:22] <daftykins> alu: no thank you, please don't post that kind of thing here - try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:23] <Hanra> Eric^^ I'm getting permissions issues
[15:23] <Hanra> one mo
[15:25] <pavan> pavan
[15:26] <bedeho> Anyone with advice on broken Ubuntu Win8 dual boot? came before, was told to come back later.
[15:26] <Hanra> Eric^^ : Done, still broken
[15:26] <daftykins> bedeho: share some more details to the channel, maybe write it up in a http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:26] <EriC^^> Hanra: ok
[15:27] <Hanra> is it possible that search.fs_uuid is giving the wrong partition?
[15:28] <EriC^^> Hanra: is the uuid the same as that for the root partition?
[15:28] <EriC^^> Hanra: what are the rest of the gpt's ? try ls (hd0,gpt7)/
[15:28] <bedeho> New laptop which came with Win8 preinstalled. I installed Ubuntu desktop from an usb drive, and it works fine, however trying the windows boot option leads to the windows boot loader claiming there is some disk error which it cannot resolve.
[15:29] <Hanra> Eric^^ All give unknown filesystem except hd0,gpt6
[15:29] <EriC^^> ok
[15:29] <daftykins> bedeho: tried booting windows 8 media and running chkdsk on each partition?
[15:30] <EriC^^> Hanra: i guess you can try grub4dos if you want
[15:30] <EriC^^> i've never used it before but i imagine it's a grub you install from windows and i know you can boot an .iso from it
[15:31] <Hanra> Eric^^ Ok, will look into it
[15:31] <Hanra> where should I get the right iso from?
[15:31] <bedeho> datykins: not sure what you mean by that? I cant get windows to start at all, bootloader fails. It has some auto repair feature it tries, but it also fails. I was told it may be some sort of UEFI issue
[15:31] <EriC^^> Hanra: releases.ubuntu.com
[15:31] <Hanra> brill
[15:32] <daftykins> bedeho: boot a windows flash drive or DVD to repair
[15:34] <agent_white> '/ws
[15:34] <bedeho> daftykins: wont that just destroy my ubuntu install, and also, wont I just get the same problem if I try to reinstall ubuntu?
[15:35] <ybl> Hey guys!
[15:35] <daftykins> bedeho: i didn't say anything about reinstalling Ubuntu... that's obviously not going to fix Windows
[15:35] <ybl> I just bumped into Ubuntu MATE
[15:35] <SuperLag> If I'm doing an upgrade from 12.04.5 -> 14.04.2, should I bother doing the reboot after the updates to the latest 12.x packages prior to starting the upgrade?
[15:35] <daftykins> bedeho: i recommend you backup your data and start again. you're going to need to go to ##windows for help fixing windows though, it's off topic here
[15:36] <SuperLag> or am I save just proceeding with the upgrade?
[15:36] <ybl> Wondering how should i go about installing/replacing it over my current installation (which is the usual desktop version)
[15:36] <daftykins> SuperLag: some are installed already, or it's offering some?
[15:36] <brothersome> SuperLag, better burn an installCD for 14.04 and do a full install, updating went wrong for me that way
[15:36] <bedeho> daftykins: Its not windows which doesnt work, it worked, the problem is installed Ubuntu without making Windows unusable?
[15:36] <daftykins> bedeho: you're saying Windows doesn't boot, correct?
[15:37] <SuperLag> brothersome: I run into minor issues on upgrades, but nothing I've not been able to address afterwards. That, and there's far too much customizations to do that, in this instance.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> ybl  try sudo apt install mate-desktop
[15:37] <SuperLag> daftykins: before I start an upgrade, I do an update to make sure the current version has all the current packages
[15:37] <SuperLag> daftykins: in this case, some of them were kernel upgrades
[15:37] <bedeho> daftykins: not anymore, as a result of Ubuntu modification of partitions/boot loader
[15:37] <ybl> MonkeyDust: Is the desktop environment same as the distro ?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> ybl  yes, it's basicaaly a different screen layout
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> ybl  NO, it's basicaaly a different screen layout
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> (oops)
[15:39] <daftykins> bedeho: so what do you want to happen? you want both Windows and Ubuntu to work?
[15:39] <daftykins> i.e. successfully boot
[15:39] <bedeho> yes, now only ubuntu works.
[15:39] <ybl> MonkeyDust: The distro talked aobut it being able to run smoothly on  low end devices, that is what my concern is
[15:39] <daftykins> SuperLag: yeah boot into the newest first
[15:39] <ybl> about*
[15:39] <meatie> someone should help him by doing a net install for him
[15:39] <daftykins> SuperLag: autoremove too to get rid of the junk - and "sudo apt-get clean" to recover some disk space :)
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> ybl  yes, i use mate for my virtual ubuntu, because it's so light
[15:39] <daftykins> bedeho: right, so your problem is Windows not working - which is not a topic for this channel
[15:40] <ybl> MonkeyDust: So the DE = distro ? I am a bit confused .
[15:40] <daftykins> desktop environment
[15:40] <daftykins> i.e. unity, xfce, KDE, MATE...
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> ybl  no, a DE is the screen layout, used by the distro, some screen layouts are lighter than others
[15:41] <OerHeks> xfce is pretty light
[15:41] <OerHeks> = Xubuntu
[15:41] <ybl> MonkeyDust: Alright, so I need to get the distro right ?
[15:41] <Guest87034> hello I am trying to enter the router config page but I get this message: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-do-sslv3-error-messages-mean-firefox how could I enter the router config page??
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> ybl  distro = ubuntu, DE = the way ubuntu looks (sort of)
[15:42] <meatie> yeah like daftykins said, you should not talk here anymore because your problem is that of Windows.
[15:42] <bedeho> daftykins: wow, got to say, that is a strange way to describe the situation...
[15:42] <meatie> :/
[15:42] <OerHeks> Guest87034, ask your provider to update, or allow it once.
[15:42] <daftykins> bedeho: i'm going by the information you've given me, what is strange?
[15:42] <Mandeep_Singh> Hey everyone, I want to ask is there any way to check fan speed of my CPU in Ubuntu. I've tried some tools like lm-sensors, pwmconfig, sensors-detect, demidecode etc. but could not get the full info
[15:42] <meatie> can we vote this guy off the island?
[15:42] <daftykins> bedeho: you think that because you installed ubuntu, fixing Windows is an ubuntu problem?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> Mandeep_Singh  try psensor
[15:42] <meatie> so what, maybe some of us WANT to help him
[15:43] <meatie> you clearly failed.
[15:43] <bedeho> daftykins: its fine, i wont ask you, are you saying I am allowed to ask anyone else also? Because I got a lot more help before, he just said I should stick around for someone with more experience.
[15:43] <bedeho> not*
[15:44] <meatie> ignore daftykins, everyone is fine helping you.
[15:44] <daftykins> Guest87034: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2893691
[15:44] <ybl> MonkeyDust: Oh i am talking about the Ubuntu MATE distro.
[15:44] <daftykins> bedeho: no i'm saying you can't discuss fixing windows problems in an ubuntu channel :) go join ##windows
[15:44] <bedeho> meatie: thanks
[15:45] <OerHeks> bedeho, fixing the bootloader to windows as original is a good step.
[15:45] <OerHeks> so daftykins is right, i guess.
[15:45] <bedeho> daftykins: I disagree with how you are describing the situation, and for good measure, I asked on windows, they said it depends on issue with how the ubuntu boot loader is installed
[15:45] <OerHeks> after that, it is easy to reinstall grub.
[15:45] <daftykins> bedeho: right but as OerHeks just said, you should start by repairing Windows... which isn't an ubuntu issue.
[15:46] <meatie> daftykins, you are off-topic. you  aren't talking about ubuntu.
[15:46] <meatie> please stop.
[15:46] <Mandeep_Singh> MonkeyDust, Thanks. But I've already tried that. Just to confirm, I tried just now. And it doesn't shows any option for fan speed and something related to fan.
[15:46] <daftykins> bedeho: please bear in mind i've seen hundreds of your situation before and things aren't going to change just for you
[15:46] <meatie> eg. you've been this way forever?
[15:47] <rfmon> Has anybody managed to install Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:47] <bedeho> OerHeks: what do you mean by "fixing it as original", not sure I follow
[15:47] <daftykins> rfmon: yes it's a common thing
[15:47] <daftykins> rfmon: if you're trying to use the ones from their website, i would not recommend this at all.
[15:48] <rfmon> daftykins: Yeah? I tried from their website as well as a PPA.
[15:48] <daftykins> rfmon: which PPA? what went wrong?
[15:48] <meatie> rfmon, yes
[15:49] <meatie> try bleeding edge
[15:49] <rfmon> daftykins: Wait, I just found out that I have another problem as well. When I boot up, instead of the decrypting prompt I get a black screen. However, this happens before I install the drivers.
[15:50] <daftykins> rfmon: unrelated
[15:50] <rfmon> daftykins: Yeah, thought so. Hmm
[15:50] <daftykins> so, what went wrong?
[15:50] <OerHeks> bedeho, you could try reinstalling grub2 without fixing the windowsbootloader
[15:52] <rfmon> daftykins: Well, essentially when I get the blank decrypt screen, I can enter my password and press enter. The screen then turns on and it's all good. BUT, after I've installed the drivers, I get nothing. I enter my password at what I think it's the decrypt screen and nothing happens after.
[15:53] <rfmon> But I haven't been able to find a proper fix for the blank screen.
[15:53] <daftykins> hmm no idea then, i don't use encryption
[15:55] <njoy> Hi+
[16:00] <njoy> Excuse me, but if I need to chroot to install a kernel but got a cuestion.When I do "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev" on the livecd whitch dev do I moun? whitch one sould I moun? dev from my instalation or live?
[16:00] <AppAraat> daftykins: re: making a new xorg.conf file - some examples suggested generating a new conf file by doing "Xorg -configure". Do you find that sound advice?
[16:01] <sere> question: cant mount my sd card.. i get this error : /dev/sdb1 is write protected, mounting read only.. mount /dev/sdb1: cant read superblock
[16:02] <AppAraat> sere: it is probably improperly formatted.
[16:02] <mib_8f293a> what's the difference between xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-radeon?
[16:03] <Afforess> is the sd card write protection turned on sere? That little switch on the side of sd cards that can block writes might be on.
[16:03] <mib_8f293a> xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-ati*
[16:04] <daftykins> njoy: /dev is from the live session since you're typing it before the chroot. you can't mount something to the same place because it's already there ;)
[16:04] <sere> AppAraat: its pulled from a andriod device and stopped working..windows wouldnt see either..
[16:04] <ivo34> hello I am trying to enter my router config page but I get this error: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-do-sslv3-error-messages-mean-firefox is there any other way to enter the bhs rta router config?
[16:05] <daftykins> ivo34: yeah i linked you to something already
[16:05] <daftykins> ivo34: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2893691
[16:06] <AppAraat> sere: then it might just be corrupted.
[16:10] <sere> AppAraat: its my moms pulled it from her phone when it was already unmounted..never tried re-mounting it.. i guess i will try that and hopefully its not..thanks for the help :)
[16:11] <njoy> thanks a lot
[16:12] <meatie> be careful guys. you are off-topic, daftykins might scold you.
[16:12] <njoy> when I do "sudo chroot /media" I get "chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory
[16:12] <njoy> " can you explain please
[16:13] <Hanra> Thanks to Eric^^'s suggestion I've downloaded an .iso for ubuntu 14.04, anyone able to walk me through using grub4dos on windoze 8.1?
[16:13] <Hanra> the documentation I've found so far only goes as far as Windoze 7
[16:13] <ivo34> daftykins,  thanks for the thread...
[16:13] <daftykins> doubt it changes much
[16:15] <ivo34> yeah it made me think how come a router config page be that risky...being inside my lan
[16:20] <Hanra> just checking, Eric^^... if you're still there... you've never used grub4dos right?
[16:20] <daftykins> Hanra: i'd have taken the thing apart hours ago... fwiw :)
[16:21] <Hanra> daftykins, am getting to that point where I'm very tempted
[16:21] <Hanra> although actually reading up on UEFI I'm not sure whether that'll even help... I may just have old live CDs
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Hanra  daftykins i admire your patience
[16:21] <daftykins> Hanra: or even just powering off, removing the battery + mains, then holding the power button for a bit to see if it'll make it change its' mind about a few things
[16:22] <Hanra> daftykins... what would that even do? What sorcery is that?
[16:22] <daftykins> it's a total stab in the dark
[16:23] <daftykins> i don't expect much, but it won't hurt and won't take long
[16:23] <Hanra> but.. what would it do?
[16:23] <Hanra> Is that a cunning way to drain the cmos battery?
[16:23]  * Hanra is totally trying it
[16:25] <daftykins> Hanra: nah it won't touch that, else BIOS passwords would be totally useles
[16:25] <daftykins> s
[16:27] <Hanra> daftykins, based on my experience today I'm pretty convinced BIOS passwords are just plain useless. But then I think letting employees brick their own machines to be fine, they can pay for a replacement
[16:27] <OerHeks> flushing power can surely solve some runaway chipsets
[16:28] <Hanra> "cannot allocate kernel buffer"? Oh dead
[16:28] <daftykins> Hanra: heh, where's employees come from o0
[16:29] <daftykins> *where'd
[16:29] <Hanra> daftykins, well why would you set a BIOS password?
[16:29] <meatie> security theatre
[16:29] <daftykins> prevent someone booting an external device and stealing data
[16:31] <daftykins> Hanra: you got that error after doing it?
[16:31] <SuperLag> What is the proper way to *globally* set /usr/local/bin to be read first, before /usr/bin ?
[16:33] <EriC^^> SuperLag: /etc/environment , i think
[16:33] <Nokaji> I'm looking for a source (PPA) for "CDRTools 3.01a24". One without brandensnider in the URL as the files are no longer accessible there
[16:33] <EriC^^> Hanra: any updates?
[16:34] <Hanra> Eric^^ grub4dos scares me (can't find instructions for setting it up on windows 8) so I'm taking the plunge and dismantling my laptop to get at the CMOS battery
[16:35] <EriC^^> good, got to do it anyways
[16:35] <TikityTik> I am told to use the command "reaload ssh"
[16:35] <TikityTik> for an SSH guide, but it tells me that the program reload is currently not installed.
[16:35] <EriC^^> Hanra: i think it'll reset the boot options menu though
[16:35] <TikityTik> Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[16:35] <SuperLag> EriC^^: thanks. That's it.
[16:36] <EriC^^> so you better have a live usb or a means to make one, or have a boot by efi file menu entry
[16:36] <EriC^^> SuperLag: np
[16:37] <OerHeks> Nokaji, http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cdrtools-3.01a30.tar.gz ( 24 is old and not on that page)
[16:38] <OerHeks> !blueray
[16:38] <Nokaji> OerHeks: That makes some sense, I'll give it a try. Can you vouch for fossies, I've not heard of them
[16:38] <OerHeks> Nokaji, you can search yourself for other sources, there is no ppa wit it besides the one you don't want
[16:39] <daftykins> Nokaji: just make sure you remove some of these PPAs you've already tried to throw on, having them all at once is going to be a right mess
[16:39] <Nokaji> daftykins: I'll do that hile it is on my mind, as soon as I figgur out how, thanks
[16:40] <Nokaji> they are the only two that don't load and create erros so I would get a reminder
[16:40] <daftykins> !ppapurge | Nokaji this one's always handy
[16:40] <AppAraat> daftykins: I am relieved to see X11 as it appears to be working (the output of Xorg -configure did startle me for a second, especially that segmentation fault - http://apaste.info/zuB) but the machine booted up successfully. Now to see how I can change the color depth to 16.
[16:41] <daftykins> AppAraat: no need to keep me updated, thanks
[16:42] <AppAraat> oh ok. I just figured you'd be interested.
[16:42] <Nokaji> I've unticked them in software & Updates
[16:42] <daftykins> Nokaji: right but if any packages are on from any of them right now... here be dragons
[16:42] <OerHeks> !info cdrkit
[16:43] <Nokaji> it reloaded package info immediately, I never got to install the one pkg i needed
[16:43] <Nokaji> see what you mean though
[16:47] <beaky> hello
[16:47] <nothingmuch> i think i installed opengl related packages from a ppa a few months ago, experimenting with different xorg drivers, and now I can't install vlc because libgles{1,2}{,-mesa} is not going to be installed
[16:48] <beaky> how do i install phantomjs in ubuntu i tried npm install phantomjs in my nodejs project directory but it doenst install :(
[16:48] <merpnderp> Ubuntu phone is EU countries only, right?
[16:48] <beaky> ubuntu server 15.04 *
[16:48] <nothingmuch> how do i figure out what's blocking it?
[16:48] <Nokaji> daftykins: The deed is done, branden is purged
[16:49] <nothingmuch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11980767/
[16:52] <beaky> nvm i did sudo apt-get install phantomjs and it worked! thanks
[16:52] <beaky> btw how do you autoamte teh deployment of ubuntu server with all my stuff in it
[16:52] <daftykins> !touch | merpnderp
[16:54] <merpnderp> thanks daftykins
[16:55] <molgrum> i have a printer that needs "gs-esp" package, what's my best bet here?
[16:56] <molgrum> to solve this problem
[16:57] <beaky> how do i use newer packages in ubuntu server
[16:57] <OerHeks> molgrum, canon ?
[16:58] <molgrum> OerHeks: yep
[16:58] <OerHeks> The problem is that gs-esp was available as a package up to Ubuntu 10.10, but not for 11.04 (see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gs-esp ). It has been replaced with ghostscript-x, but apparently your Canon packages insist on gs-esp being installed.
[16:58] <molgrum> OerHeks: found a walkthrough now
[17:00] <OerHeks> molgrum, you could try something like: sudo dpkg -i --ignore-depends=gs-esp cndrvcups-common_<version>.deb
[17:00] <molgrum> OerHeks: found newer drivers and they installed flawlessly
[17:00] <molgrum> :)
[17:00] <OerHeks> oh, better :-P
[17:04] <Megabyte> Hello, everyone
[17:04] <Megabyte> How do I downgrade Ubuntu to kernel 3.0 or 3.1.0?
[17:05] <OerHeks> wow, why such old kernel?
[17:06] <daftykins> Megabyte: yeah, what are you trying to do?
[17:06] <Megabyte> daftykins, I'm trying to run a current distro on old, proprietary hardware
[17:07] <daftykins> Megabyte: how come? what hardware?
[17:07] <Megabyte> daftykins, I have a netbook with cannot run on anything different than an old kernel 3.0 or 3.1
[17:07] <Megabyte> The culprit is the graphics card, a GMA 3600
[17:07] <daftykins> is that a poulsbo chipset thing?
[17:08] <OerHeks> yeah, cedar trail
[17:08] <molgrum> hmm how do i find out what dev file my printer is using?
[17:08] <molgrum>  /dev/*
[17:08] <OerHeks> molgrum, localhost:631
[17:09] <Megabyte> OerHeks, It's a cedar trail thing, yes
[17:10] <molgrum> OerHeks: hrm, no location
[17:10] <Megabyte> OerHeks, So, is it possible to downgrade?
[17:11] <tgm4883> Megabyte: I'm not aware of a way to downgrade that far. Whats the problem with a newer kernel?
[17:11] <OerHeks> downgrade will give you a dependencie-war, install precise 12.04 again and don't upgrade
[17:11] <daftykins> Megabyte: probably game over.
[17:11] <OerHeks> i think cedar trail is a good door-blocker
[17:11] <daftykins> ^
[17:12] <Megabyte> tgm4883, The problem is that I can't use newer kernels with this chip
[17:12] <daftykins> all netbooks are at retirement really
[17:12] <Megabyte> Simple is that
[17:12] <Megabyte> daftykins, Of course they are
[17:12] <Megabyte> daftykins, But it's still usable hardware
[17:12] <Megabyte> I can't just toss it away
[17:12] <daftykins> agree to disagree on that one
[17:13] <tgm4883> Megabyte: so it doesn't boot or something? Or it throws an errors saying "Linus hates cedar trail and has removed support for this"? I just find it weird that something that used to work no longer works. This isn't Windows land
[17:13] <daftykins> tgm4883: i've seen users in here have pretty dire graphics performance on the things for a couple of years
[17:13] <tgm4883> daftykins: ah
[17:13] <daftykins> some kinda big regression i think that nobody seems to care about fixing since netbooks are so old
[17:14] <tgm4883> daftykins: I'll agree, that GMA stuff is pretty crap
[17:14] <daftykins> *nod* i can't claim it as fact mind you, just the feeling i got
[17:15] <Megabyte> tgm4883, It doesn't, dude
[17:15] <Megabyte> It's a binary driver
[17:15] <Megabyte> tgm4883, I think Ubuntu will try the generic Vesa
[17:15] <Megabyte> but generic vesa for that chip is really slow
[17:16] <jackcom> how can i open 22 port?
[17:16] <daftykins> jackcom: to SSH into your system from on the internet? port forward on your router.
[17:17] <jackcom> :(
[17:17] <jackcom> i don’t know
[17:17] <daftykins> don't know what?
[17:17] <tgm4883> jackcom: what is your end goal
[17:17] <jackcom> port forward on your router.  <—— what is it?
[17:18] <tgm4883> jackcom: do you want to be able to SSH into your machine from across the house, or across the country?
[17:18] <daftykins> jackcom: what is your router make and model?
[17:18] <Hanra> Eric^^ The keyboard got the better of me. I am going to take the laptop to a professional
[17:19] <jackcom> :(
[17:19] <tgm4883> uh?
[17:19] <EriC^^> Hanra: what do you mean?
[17:19] <EriC^^> Hanra: usually there's a screw that holds the keyboard there and you can then push it out
[17:19] <Hanra> The CMOS battery is buried deep. The keyboard is held down with 6 latches
[17:20] <Hanra> beneath that is more things
[17:24] <molgrum> hmm, i wonder why my usb printer is not detected. tryign to find some sort of blacklist.
[17:24] <AppAraat> welp, that xorg.conf method didn't work :(
[17:25] <reveredge> hey
[17:25] <AppAraat> skype now displays pretty much nothing instead of displaying the machine webcam
[17:25] <reveredge> i have bought a new pc with 256 gb SSD and 1 TB HDD... how should I configure the partitions
[17:25] <Mitchell92> hello... I have a HP Mini 110-1100... 2GB RAM, 1.6GHZ Atom with HT... I wanted to run Ubuntu GNOME... Any thoughts as far as performance?
[17:27] <EriC^^> Hanra: you might be able to reset the bios from windows check here http://www.askvg.com/how-to-reset-remove-bypass-a-bios-or-cmos-password/
[17:28] <AppAraat> reveredge: I'd configure it all on one partition (unless you want to multiboot), and keep backing up the /home partition.
[17:28] <AppAraat> *your /home folder.
[17:29] <EriC^^> Hanra: check here too http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CmosPwd
[17:29] <reveredge> wont you like to keep few things on HDD which need lesser access
[17:29] <reveredge> like / on SSD is obvious but what about /home and others
[17:36] <daftykins> reveredge: keep it all on the SSD but mount the mechanical for large file media storage
[17:36] <daftykins> that'll keep the software fast at run time, as your dot-file configs will be on the SSD too
[17:37] <daftykins> you could even symlink ~/Pictures, ~/Music etc to the mechanical
[17:37] <N00bie> Hey, all. I have an audio question (can't find answer on google). How do I get sounds working in Thunderbird or Sylpheed?
[17:40] <N00bie> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, btw.
[17:42] <N00bie> nobody, huh?
[17:44] <Urist_> what do you mean by sound working on Thunderbird? does it work on you OS?
[17:46] <molgrum> anyone that knows why my canon lbp-1120 is not deteted by lsusb?
[17:47] <daftykins> molgrum: watch dmesg | tail on plugging and unplugging perhaps
[17:48] <molgrum> days nothing
[17:48] <molgrum> says*
[17:48] <daftykins> sounds like your ports aren't happy then?
[17:48] <daftykins> try another?
[17:49] <molgrum> no dice :(
[17:49] <daftykins> other devices work in there i take it?
[17:50] <daftykins> is the printer even on o0
[17:50] <molgrum> the port do work, i have tried other devices such as usb-drives
[17:50] <daftykins> what about today?
[17:50] <molgrum> yes it is on :)
[17:50] <molgrum> well i can try
[17:50] <daftykins> bad cable? :>
[17:51] <njoy> can somebody excpleinnme why I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short
[17:51] <njoy> " doing chroot
[17:51] <njoy> ?
[17:51] <molgrum> daftykins: that would be the second time i have a bad cable lol
[17:52] <daftykins> nasty luck!
[17:52] <molgrum> i'll try it in windows 7
[17:52] <ioria> molgrum, don't know if it works http://askubuntu.com/questions/459354/lbp1120-on-ubuntu-14-04?lq=1
[17:53] <Haarbal> Hey there! I have a Windows 10/Ubuntu 15.04 dual boot, with Ubuntu on an 120GB 840 EVO SSD and Windows 10 on an 250GB 840 PRO SSD. Samsung Magician (in Windows) tells me there's a firmware update for the Ubuntu SSD. Can I just update it via Windows?
[17:56] <OerHeks> Haarbal, not an ubuntu issue, but i guess so
[17:56] <extremez3r0> Hi Guys! I'm with a problem with resolution and my monitor. I have a nvidia. to make easyer I make a gist: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/gabrsar/6f8cfb0501de29f5e8e8/raw/1a38e9f89ff62140cc47a63cf9cedd660901001b/gistfile1.txt
[17:57] <extremez3r0> I don't know what more to do.
[17:57] <Haarbal> OerHeks, Well, it turns into an issue if I lose my Ubuntu install because an MS app messes up :-p
[17:59] <OerHeks> Haarbal, don't put the blame on ubuntu, btw a firmwareupdate should not reset any setting.
[18:02] <Haarbal> OerHeks, Fair enough. Time for a reboot.
[18:03] <OerHeks> extremez3r0, did you try to reset that monitor in its own menu?
[18:03] <extremez3r0> hum... Not yet. I will try it now
[18:04] <OerHeks> else try the driver tool, for a nvidia package, 340 or so
[18:04] <extremez3r0> I think that this is not monitor fault. On my arch linux it works smooth
[18:07] <extremez3r0> I'm don't found anything to "reset"m monitor on its menu
[18:09] <extremez3r0> Ok. I found. Apply factory settings.
[18:09] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:10] <OerHeks> now i hope it picks up the new EDID info
[18:10] <extremez3r0> nothing change, except the color temperature :(
[18:10] <extremez3r0> No. Ubuntu monitor config still show Unknow monitor
[18:11] <extremez3r0> And max resolution still at 1360x864 (but cause screen distortion when I put it), I have to use 1152x8643
[18:11] <extremez3r0> 864*
[18:12] <OerHeks> strange, else try the closed source driver
[18:13] <extremez3r0> I've tried,
[18:13] <extremez3r0> 346, 340, and noveau
[18:13] <extremez3r0> :'(
[18:20] <j3r0> guys what is the www-data group ?
[18:20] <extremez3r0> probably user of apache or ngnix
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> j3r0  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[18:21] <proq`> how do I change my capslock key to control on ubuntu 14.10 server?
[18:21] <j3r0> yeap ! thanks and sorry I didn't knew
[18:23] <OerHeks> proq`, on supported ubuntu versions, something like setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps
[18:23] <kresk> When you partition a drive, does it take from the beginning of the drive or end of the drive?
[18:24] <proq`> OerHeks: thanks
[18:26] <kresk> I'm wanting to partition my 1TB (untouched.  Windows is on my 256GB SSD) hard drive to like 500GB so I can have some storage left over for random use.  But I'm afraid that Ubuntu won't be that fast because I heard  Ubuntu speed depends on if the partition is the beginning of the space or the end.
[18:26] <kresk> The beginning being the fastest of the drive, the end being the slowest.
[18:26] <kresk> I know I butchered that question, but I'm new to all this.  Any help would be awesome.
[18:26] <ObrienDave> kresk, NOT true
[18:27] <OerHeks> kresk, that is only true for swap.
[18:27] <kresk> I have no idea.  I just am really wanting work with Ubuntu but I can't replace Windows with it considering I built this PC for gaming... and didn't plan on getting into this.
[18:27] <kresk> wanting to work with*
[18:28] <ObrienDave> kresk, my Ubuntu partitions are at the end of the drive, no dual boot issues with performance here
[18:28] <kresk> GTX 980 SLI and the whole bunch.  I want Ubuntu to be quite fast and I've read some articles, but sometimes they lose me because I've never dealt with Linux.
[18:29] <akik> kresk: put ubuntu on the ssd
[18:29] <kresk> I'm going to be using it for learning the terminal and Python development.  Would I notice it being slower than Windows is for me?  Considering it's on an SSD and all.
[18:29] <kresk> I can't.
[18:30] <kresk> I may buy a 500GB SSD if I become comfortable with Ubuntu, but right now I just want something stable and fast so I can learn.  I don't need it uber-fast.
[18:30] <ObrienDave> regular HD will be just fine
[18:31] <kresk> It's a 7200RPM, I don't know if that helps at all.
[18:31] <kresk> But anyway, I just partition the 1TB drive to how much space I want Ubuntu to have and install it to the partitioned drive via USB?
[18:31] <ObrienDave> it's faster than a 5k drive, yes
[18:32] <kresk> Also.  Am I able to clear Ubuntu off of the partitioned drive if I wanted and join the two partitioned drives back together as one?
[18:32] <ObrienDave> kresk, yes
[18:32] <kresk> Ok, cool.
[18:32] <akik> kresk: you don't have to prepare the hd. the ubuntu installer takes care of it
[18:32] <kresk> I don't have to partition it myself right now?
[18:33] <ObrienDave> no, just be sure you select the HD for installing
[18:33] <kresk> It will allow me to choose how much space I want to dedicate to Ubuntu from the drive I selected?
[18:33] <ObrienDave> drive size will be your best clue :)
[18:33] <kresk> Of course, of course. :O
[18:33] <ObrienDave> yes
[18:33] <kresk> :P*
[18:33] <kresk> Ok, thank you.  I appreciate your help.
[18:34] <ObrienDave> most welcome. come back and ask ANYTIME
[18:34] <binh> #bookz
[18:34] <kresk> Sure thing.  I truly appreciate all of the help even though it was just a few questions.
[18:34] <kresk> One more thing:
[18:35] <ObrienDave> kresk, we would rather you ask first before you have problems. anytime, any questions
[18:36] <kresk> Say here in few weeks or so when I get comfortable with Ubuntu for daily use, can I transfer the existing Ubuntu over to an SSD if I want increased speeds?
[18:36] <ObrienDave> yes
[18:37] <kresk> Awesome.  Is it a complicated process?  I was reading around a week or so ago and I read something about it being quite a complicated task to wipe Ubuntu off of a drive and merge it with your old partition for the drive to be whole again.
[18:38] <kresk> If it is complicated, that is fine. I will not run because of it.  That's why I want to start working with Ubuntu - to learn.  I just don't want tasks to be damn near impossible for a beginner user to accomplish if something goes south.
[18:39] <kresk> I thought of trying VMWare Workstation before installing it.  Would you recommend that?
[18:39] <ObrienDave> well, anything is a PITA if not done correctly and without guidance.
[18:39] <kresk> I agree with that 100%.
[18:39] <meatie> just install virtualbox
[18:39] <ObrienDave> i have no experience with VMware. i use VirtualBox
[18:40] <meatie> quicker and for simplistic use to get going
[18:40] <kresk> I have an i7 4790K @ 4.0GHz and 16GB of 1866MHz RAM.  Is that enough hardware to have it run smoothly in a Virtual Box?
[18:40] <ObrienDave> kresk, your best option is to always come back here for advice before you have major issues
[18:40] <njoy> can somebody excpleinnme why I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short
[18:40] <njoy> " doing chroot
[18:40] <meatie> kresk, yes.
[18:40] <njoy> ?
[18:40] <meatie> those are good specs.
[18:41] <meatie> you can run multiple instances ehe
[18:41] <kresk> Right on.  Do you mind if I private message you, meatie?  You seem to know a bit about VirtualBoxes.
[18:41] <meatie> only if you promise not to ask for nudes.
[18:42] <kresk> I pinky promise. *crosses fingers behind back.*
[18:42] <kresk> lolol.
[18:42] <ObrienDave> just don't do like some have, run 14 instances, 6 browsers, 8 tabs each, and then complain that their system bogs down LOL
[18:42] <kresk> 14 instances of the OS, you mean?
[18:42] <ObrienDave> anything in particular :)
[18:43] <kresk> I was just going to install Ubuntu and use it as I would if I was dualbooting it so I could learn it.  Using the Terminal, maybe doing some programming and such.
[18:43] <kresk> If I were to use a VirtualBox that is.
[18:43] <ObrienDave> you'll be fine, i'm just kidding ;P
[18:43] <akik> kresk: what was the reason you can't install ubuntu on the ssd?
[18:43] <kresk> Oh, okie.  I've never done this type of stuff before so I have no idea what to expect performance-wise.  :D
[18:44] <ObrienDave> akik, he does not want to
[18:44] <meatie> kresk, you won't notice the VM running.
[18:44] <kresk> It's only 256GB and Windows is occupying it.  I use it for all Windows software and Steam games... when I do have time to play.
[18:44] <akik> kresk: are you going to install the boot loader on the usb disk too?
[18:45] <kresk> I'm planning on buying another SSD for Ubuntu if things go well.
[18:45] <kresk> If you mean installing Ubuntu from a USB, then yes.
[18:45] <kresk> I have no disk drive.
[18:45] <kresk> I didn't think about that when I built this PC around 7 months ago.
[18:45] <ObrienDave> he means installing GRUB to the SSD
[18:46] <kresk> Oh, I'd have to look up what that is so I can give you the answer you're looking for. :/
[18:46] <kresk> Doing so now.
[18:46] <ObrienDave> GRUB is the linux bootloader
[18:46] <kresk> I've seen it being spoken about in quite a few articles I've read, but I don't really understand it.
[18:47] <wolfieorama> Hi good people anybpdy with a fix for ubuntu 14.04 wireless not working, RTL8723 realtek ssemiconductor
[18:47] <kresk> Like I said, I've never messed with Linux before in my life. (Although I'm only 20.)
[18:47] <akik> windows has a boot loader too and usually it's safe to replace it with grub
[18:47] <meatie> kresk you can just make a mount point setup correctly and you'll be fine.
[18:47] <akik> but with the uefi thing i'm not sure
[18:47] <kresk> But then again, this is why I want to get with Ubuntu.  To possibly migrate away from Windows in the future and expand my knowledge in general.
[18:47] <ObrienDave> if you want the easiest way to dual boot, select the SSD for installing the bootloader
[18:48] <ObrienDave> !uefi | kresk
[18:48] <meatie> you play Steam games on Windows?
[18:48] <kresk> I'm sure I'll be able to do that, but I'm considering the VirtualBox.  I wouldn't have to do that if I took that route, right?
[18:48] <meatie> its available for linux i just never played any games yet.
[18:48] <kresk> It is, just not many games.  When I do play games, it's mostly the new triple A games like Witcher 3, Batman: Arkham Knight and such.
[18:49] <kresk> It's actually surprising the amount of games that are becoming Linux compatible.
[18:49] <ivo34> hello people
[18:49] <ivo34> I need some help configuring a router
[18:50] <ivo34> I used to have one router in my network but now it happens to be that I have two!
[18:50] <ivo34> and I need to change the ip in one of them
[18:50] <munish> anybody there?
[18:50] <ivo34> helllo
[18:50] <ivo34> BUT
[18:50] <Comstock> hello, is it me you're looking for?
[18:51] <wolfieorama>  Hi good people anybody with a fix for wireless not working, RTL8723 realtek semiconductor
[18:51] <ivo34> the router configuration web page is unaccessible
[18:51] <ivo34> I think it is because of the old sslv3 protocol
[18:51] <ivo34> is there a way to change the router ip from ubuntu?
[18:53] <ivo34> wolfieorama,  did you try the old chopstick in the hole trick?
[18:53] <kresk> Can anyone here recommend a great, stable Virtual Box?
[18:53] <kresk> i was thinking of going with the VMWare Workstation 30-day trial for a bit.
[18:53] <ivo34> for ubuntu virtualbox will work fine with the latest
[18:53] <ObrienDave> kresk, the standard Vbox 5 is recommended
[18:53] <ivo34> you just need the repo kresk
[18:53] <kresk> Wut?
[18:54] <ivo34> the repository
[18:54] <ObrienDave> ivo34, NEW user :)
[18:54] <kresk> I know what a repo is, you just kind of lost me though.
[18:54] <ivo34> wich ubuntu version are you using?
[18:55] <kresk> None yet.
[18:55] <ivo34> just google how to install latest vbox in ubuntu x
[18:55] <toter> kresk, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[18:55] <kresk> I could do that, I was just curious as to whether or not I should use the Oracle VirtualBox or VMWare Workstation.
[18:55] <ivo34> and youll find some nice ubuntuforums or askubuntu threads luckily
[18:55] <ivo34> oh
[18:55] <ObrienDave> kresk, a repo is a repository, where packages (programs) are kept. you add repos to your system, and when new versions come out, they are updated automatically
[18:55] <kresk> Is there any major differences between the two other than one being free and one being paid?
[18:55] <khax> try virtualbox its free and i am using it, and personally i think that its easier to use than vmware workstation
[18:55] <Comstock> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/07/install-virtualbox-5-0-ubuntu-15-04-14-04-12-04/
[18:56] <AppAraat> anyone want to help me find this culprit? With Skype, when the remote caller's video feed is on along with locals, then the window with the video feeds flickers blue. So far, I've tried changing the Xorg's DefaultDepth to 16 (according to the last post here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1078068), launching Skype using a custom shortcut
[18:56] <Comstock> here is a handy guide
[18:56] <AppAraat> (http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-fix-webcam-problem-in-skype.html) but one simply made the webcam feed black and the other didn't do anything at all. This is my lshw output http://grandpc.kpaste.net/8d6154cb6
[18:56] <ivo34> virtualbox is great
[18:56] <ivo34> for home users
[18:56] <ivo34> if you are trying to do something more serious....
[18:56] <kresk> So VMWare Workstation is for much heavier use?
[18:56] <ivo34> I think yes
[18:57] <Comstock> you shouldn't need workstation as a normal user
[18:57] <kresk> In comparison to development editors.  VirtualBox is a lightweight text editor  and VMWare Workstation is an IDE?
[18:57] <kresk> :D:D:D
[18:57] <ObrienDave> kresk, since i joined Ubuntu 5 years ago, i have paid ZERO for software
[18:57] <kresk> That's awesome.  I can't wait to get this started today.
[18:57] <khax> why installing iceweasel gives me outdated version ?
[18:57] <wileee> AppAraat, You've tried the skype in the ubuntu repos and the from skype deb?
[18:57] <Comstock> i have paid some donations though
[18:58] <kresk> I'm gonna go make a sammich then get started on this!
[18:58] <Comstock> always try to help developers when i can
[18:58] <khax> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/install-iceweasel-ppa-ubuntu-1304/
[18:58] <kresk> Does anyone want me to make them a sammich too?
[18:58] <Comstock> sure!
[18:58] <ivo34> please some help with telnet...
[18:58] <kresk> hehehe. :D
[18:58] <ivo34> how do I telnet a router
[18:58] <ObrienDave> Comstock, that is always the right thing to do
[18:58] <ivo34> I need to change its ip
[18:58] <Comstock> what router?
[18:58] <kresk> Be back, fellas.
[18:58] <ivo34> because is the same another router is using
[18:59] <khax> use the web interface of the router..
[18:59] <AppAraat> wileee: I've tried only from Ubuntu repos as I thought it would be best practice. Is it a good idea to try the one from skype.com? There only 12.04 is supported (skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb)
[18:59] <ivo34> bhsrta homestation
[18:59] <AppAraat> (I have 14.04 minimal)
[18:59] <AppAraat> with Lubuntu minimal desktop.
[18:59] <ivo34> khax I cannot!!
[19:00] <wileee> AppAraat, The wiki suggests the ubuntu repos version, I would try both though and if purge each, leave no configs. Easy test is all.
[19:00] <ivo34> I get this bothering message: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-do-sslv3-error-messages-mean-firefox khax
[19:01] <ivo34> I guess because the router is too....picky
[19:01] <wileee> AppAraat, We can assume your graphics are fine otherwise?
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  xhat's the outcome of    dig | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> what's*
[19:02] <AppAraat> wileee: yes, webcam in cheese works fine and I can play youtube videos on latest chrome. Not sure if all that is a good metric but for me it seems a good indication that graphics adapter is supported.
[19:03] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  ;; Got answer:
[19:03] <ivo34> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62479
[19:03] <ivo34> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 23
[19:03] <ivo34> and many more things...
[19:03] <njoy> anyone know a livecd wiht chroot preinstalled?
[19:03] <khax> just accept the certificate and change enter the interface
[19:04] <wileee> AppAraat, chrome has latest flash basically 'pepperflash' I just wondered if you had visited the additional drivers tab in software & sources, just phishing really.
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  the many more things is what we want to know ... use a pastebin
[19:04] <nikbor> hello are there mirror servers for ddebs.ubuntu.com?
[19:04] <wileee> AppAraat, Seems like a skype issue, the graphics is just a possible outlier.
[19:05] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | ivo34
[19:05] <wileee> njoy, like a magic click?
[19:06] <njoy> hahhaahha
[19:06] <njoy> sarcasm
[19:06] <wileee> njoy, chroot is commands, you could make a script.
[19:06] <tgm4883> lol
[19:07] <njoy> can somebody excpleinnme why I get "/bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2: file too short
[19:07] <tgm4883> because the file is too short
[19:08] <njoy> im tree days with this?
[19:08] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  its a list of dns directions...
[19:08] <ivo34> is it safe to post this in a nerdy chat like this?
[19:09] <njoy> what file its to short?
[19:09] <tgm4883> njoy: what is the output of "ls -l /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2"
[19:09] <Comstock> if it's more than 3 lines use pastebin
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  yes, i hope to extract the most likely router address ... 192.168 ... or so
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  so you can ping to it and even get it in your browser
[19:10] <ivo34> oh okay but the point is the router I want to access...is not the one serving dsl I only use it as a wifi point and a hub
[19:10] <ivo34> but I guess it keeps the old config and it might be colliding with the main router now
[19:10] <ivo34> if static
[19:10] <ObrienDave> ivo34, if you want help, help us to help you
[19:11] <njoy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 dic  4  2014 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.19.so
[19:11] <crshman> hey guys I'm trying to boot into a 14.04.2 live desktop and my machine gets to the desktop but it's completely blank
[19:11] <bekks> njoy: The file your symlink points to is too short.
[19:11] <tgm4883> njoy: what version of ubuntu
[19:12] <crshman> and the installer doesn't pop up
[19:12] <crshman> any ideas on how to fix this?
[19:12] <njoy> 14.04
[19:12] <crshman> I juse see the desktop with the restart/shutdown gear in the top right
[19:13] <njoy> I dont undestand
[19:13] <ObrienDave> crshman, sounds like a bad ISO. did you check the MD5sum?
[19:13] <crshman> good idea, let me try that ObrienDave
[19:13] <tgm4883> njoy: yea, you're file is too small...
[19:14] <tgm4883> should be 14.8 kB I believe
[19:15] <tgm4883> njoy: what is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep libc6'
[19:17] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  no 192.168. address there and a bunch of them are mac filtered I guess because there are aaaa lines after the a lines pointing to the ip's
[19:17] <ivo34> it s a sort of dns network
[19:18] <bekks> ivo34: Whats a "dns network"?
[19:18] <bratchley> hey if chrome's top bar is full of tabs, what's the easiest way to get the window to not be maximized anymore?
[19:18] <njoy> ii  libc6:amd64                                           2.19-0ubuntu6.5                                     amd64        Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[19:18] <njoy> ii  libc6-dbg:amd64                                       2.19-0ubuntu6.5                                     amd64        Embedded GNU C Library: detached debugging symbols
[19:18] <njoy> ii  libc6-dev:amd64                                       2.19-0ubuntu6.5                                     amd64        Embedded GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files
[19:19] <ivo34> why did you asked me to dig this: dig | nc termbin.com 9999 MonkeyDust
[19:19] <tgm4883> njoy: can you pastebin the output of 'file /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so'
[19:20] <ivo34> termbin.com?? what is this place?
[19:20] <bratchley> nm just found ctrl+super+down arrow
[19:20] <crshman> ObrienDave: md5's match :(
[19:21] <ObrienDave> crshman, ok, bad burn to DVD or USB. redo it
[19:21] <njoy> http://pastebin.com/xkVMs7C3
[19:21] <crshman> so off this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:22] <crshman> I checked the ISO and I also checked the burn
[19:22] <crshman> I piped /dev/cdrom to md5sum and it came back good
[19:22] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  a sort of terminal commands collector... to easily make them public...
[19:23] <ObrienDave> crshman, what did you use to make the USB?
[19:23] <ObrienDave> most here use unetbootin
[19:23] <crshman> I have an external hdd that I dump ISOs onto and it loads the ISOs and boots them
[19:23] <Bashing-om> !nomodeest | crshman Try this:
[19:23] <tgm4883> bah
[19:23] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset
[19:23] <crshman> actually, let me try booting on another machine to rule out the ISO issues
[19:24] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | crshman Try this:
[19:24] <crshman> ok, i'll try that
[19:24] <tgm4883> njoy: what about 'md5sum /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so'
[19:25] <njoy> bae20779ab807a308fb244ca1a577584  /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so
[19:26] <soulisson> Hello, i'm looking for a light weight browser for somple browsing
[19:26] <Geogts> I recently installed mozilla-light as a web browser and I can't figure out how to set it as the default browser.  It doesn't show up as an option in "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"  and it's not an option to select for webbrowser in lxsession configuration.  any ideas?
[19:27] <OerHeks> Geogts, how did you install that 'mozilla light' ?? sounds like it is not in your path or something
[19:28] <tgm4883> njoy: bekks nope, that file is correct
[19:28] <crshman> Bashing-om: that worked! Thanks
[19:28] <tgm4883> njoy: this is a live cd?
[19:29] <njoy> want to cry
[19:29] <njoy> yes
[19:29] <Geogts> OerHeks: i got an rpm file that i converted with alien and then just ran it
[19:29] <tgm4883> njoy: ubuntu 64bit desktop 14.04 (no point releases)?
[19:29] <OerHeks> Geogts, oh, i dunno how to fix that.
[19:30] <EriC^^> njoy: try a different live cd
[19:30] <EriC^^> an ubuntu one
[19:30] <Bashing-om> crshman: Great. In the actual install you "might" have to install a graphics driver .
[19:30] <Geogts> OerHeks: my backup option is qupzilla if i can't get the other working as my default and i got qupzilla from the software center
[19:31] <njoy> its ubunu 14.04.2
[19:31] <EriC^^> njoy: the live cd?
[19:31] <njoy> exactly
[19:31] <EriC^^> njoy: what's the install?
[19:31] <njoy> yes
[19:31] <njoy> 14.04
[19:31] <EriC^^> and what you're trying to chroot into?
[19:32] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:32] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:32] <bekks> you dont need pastebinit for nc termbin ...
[19:32] <EriC^^> oh crap
[19:32] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:33] <EriC^^> thanks bekks
[19:35] <AppAraat> wileee: "sudo ubuntu-drivers list" nor "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" produce any output, so I assume all necessary drivers are installed.
[19:36] <AppAraat> so let me try and install from skype.com
[19:36] <wileee> AppAraat, Cool, my suggestion is just a easy check of both models, others may have different approaches.
[19:36] <OerHeks> AppAraat, "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" should give output.
[19:36] <OerHeks> AppAraat, what ubuntu version ?
[19:37] <AppAraat> OerHeks: 14.04 x86 minimal with Lubuntu minimal desktop.
[19:37] <AppAraat> Linux grandpc 3.13.0-61-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 11:22:15 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:37] <wileee> AppAraat, net install?
[19:37] <AppAraat> yes
[19:38] <bekks> AppAraat: I'd install the latest hardware enablement stack as well.
[19:40] <James_kaput> cya
[19:43] <proq`> where are the installed ubuntu packages located?  I need to copy some to a disk
[19:45] <xangua> !aptoncd
[19:46] <AppAraat> hmm that's pretty interesting.
[19:46] <AppAraat> !offline
[19:47] <Bashing-om> proq`: Installed application are all over the operating system . To see where one can look at the install config file " /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.list " .
[19:53] <AppAraat> bekks: you mean installing it for trusty as described here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[19:53] <bekks> AppAraat: yes.
[19:55] <sgg> Is there a virtual box for ubuntu 14 04 02 ?
[19:55] <bekks> sgg: Just install virtualbox and create a vm.
[19:56] <AppAraat> bekks: if that installs the vivid (15.04) kernel, then doesn't that mean that the support for that kernel ends in October? If so, would I be able to install the 15.10 kernel?
[19:56] <bekks> AppAraat: Thats all described in the article :)
[19:57] <AppAraat> k I'll read it.
[19:57] <xangua> AppAraat: the kernel supports ends when vivid supports ends (january 2016)
[19:59] <digiphreak> Does anyone have a link to a tutorial for formatting a hard drive and then installing Ubuntu?
[20:08] <rypervenche> digilink: Will this be alongside Windows?
[20:10] <OerHeks> installer is pretty clear, IMHO
[20:18] <BotchlaB> So, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I just installed this widget as described on the page: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/gis-weather-widget-updated-and-now.html
[20:18] <BotchlaB> However, whenever I iconify all open windows, it disappears from the desktop.
[20:18] <minix> join #litindia
[20:18] <BotchlaB> I have to use alt + tab to bring it back.
[20:18] <BotchlaB> Anyone know what's going on here?
[20:20] <kresk> When you use a VirtualBox and allocate it RAM to use. Does it only affect your system when running the OS inside of VirtualBox?
[20:21] <minix> yes
[20:21] <kresk> So for example, if I have 8GB of RAM and I allocate Ubuntu to use 4GB of RAM in VirtualBox.  Do I still have 8GB like I always do when not using the VirtualBox?
[20:21] <OerHeks> kresk, no
[20:21] <kresk> And from the moment I boot up Ubuntu in the VirtualBox, I then have 4GB until closed?
[20:21] <kresk> Oh...
[20:21] <minix> yes absolutely
[20:21] <OerHeks> you can check it with 'free ' in terminal
[20:21] <kresk> You're saying yes and he's saying no. :/
[20:22] <bastones> kresk: it's a yes
[20:22] <kresk> OerHeks: What do you mean?
[20:22] <kresk> And ok, thank you.
[20:22] <minix> yeah
[20:22] <bastones> VirtualBox can't take up resources when it's not running
[20:22] <minix> any doubt?
[20:23] <kresk> Ok, right on.  That's all I wanted to know because this mainly was built for a gaming machine and I need the resources when not using the VirtualBox.
[20:23] <kresk> built as a gaming machine*
[20:23] <bastones> You are telling VirtualBox how much RAM the VM can be allocated when it's active, that's all.
[20:23] <OerHeks> again you can check it with the command 'free ' in terminal
[20:24] <OerHeks> if Vbox is not running, that memory is free again ofcourse
[20:24] <minix> yeah sure
[20:29] <combatcrab> I'm trying to install a script that requires /bin be added to my home directory. I'm having trouble understanding what it means, or how to add this new /bin directory to my "PATH".
[20:30] <bekks> combatcrab: Create /home/youruser/bin and add that to your PATH.
[20:30] <combatcrab> Specifically I'm working on installing this script: https://github.com/stickster/irssi-libnotify
[20:30] <kresk> Do I have to do a bunch of extra stuff to be able to install 64-bit Ubuntu in a VirtualBox?
[20:30] <combatcrab> bekks: What is "PATH" and how do I add that?
[20:30] <bekks> kresk: No. Create a 64bit vm, and install Ubuntu in it.
[20:30] <combatcrab> bekks: Also, thank you for helping me.
[20:31] <Ben64> just make "bin" in your home directory and it automatically gets added to the path
[20:31] <bekks> combatcrab: http://askubuntu.com/questions/402353/how-to-add-home-username-bin-to-path
[20:31] <minix> can any body help me about linux device driver
[20:31] <Ben64> bekks: that happens by default, don't need to do anything
[20:31] <bekks> minix: Maybe you just ask your actual question instead?
[20:31] <bekks> Ben64: Ah ok.
[20:32] <combatcrab> bekks: I have added the /bin directory, but I get this error when trying to make the file executable: chmod u+x $HOME/bin/notify-listener.py
[20:32] <minix> please tell me somthing basics about linux device driver
[20:32] <combatcrab> Command 'chmod' is available in '/bin/chmod'
[20:32] <combatcrab> The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[20:32] <Ben64> combatcrab: you keep saying /bin, but it should be /home/you/bin
[20:32] <bekks> combatcrab: Dont mix up /bin and /home/username/bin
[20:33] <combatcrab> bekks: interesting...I'll re-evaluate
[20:33] <minix> I want to know about usb device drivers
[20:33] <minix> anybody plz help me
[20:33] <bekks> minix: And whats your specific question?
[20:33] <Ben64> minix: you really need to be specific
[20:34] <minix> I want to write a simple usb device driver for interrupt controll
[20:34] <bekks> minix: Whats the actual issue behind your question?
[20:34] <minix> I want to controll my keyboard using usb device driver in linux
[20:35] <bekks> minix: So you want to connect a MIDI keyboard(?) to your computer?
[20:35] <minix> yes
[20:35] <bekks> minix: Thats a totally different ptoblem than "I want to know about USB drivers".
[20:35] <bekks> *problem
[20:36] <minix> okok
[20:36] <minix> now can u give me any suggestion about this issue
[20:37] <Ben64> you still need to describe it in detail
[20:37] <bekks> minix: Which connection ports does your keyboard have?
[20:37] <minix> usb port
[20:37] <bekks> It is a MIDI keyboard and it doesnt have a MIDI port?
[20:38] <minix> I don't know know exactly what is a midi po
[20:38] <minix> port
[20:38] <ObrienDave> using USB as a MIDI emulator
[20:38] <minix> but i have a usb port with my keyboard
[20:38] <bekks> minix: Then you need to find out wether your keyboard is a MIDI keyboard.
[20:38] <minix> hw?
[20:39] <bekks> minix: By looking up its specs in its manual.
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> http://www.ndolger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/midi.gif
[20:39] <minix> no, its not a midi
[20:40] <bekks> minix: Then you need to find out what the USB port is for, in the specs.
[20:40] <Ben64> how many keys does the keyboard have
[20:40] <OerHeks> keyboard as in piano ?
[20:40] <minix> no , its a computer usb keyboard
[20:40] <gg> a
[20:40] <bekks> :/
[20:40] <Ben64> then why did you agree before
[20:40] <OerHeks> LoLz, plug it in, it works
[20:40] <sync0pate> Can anyone give me a hint about getting hdmi to work, I've got no display at all. I can ssh into the machine, but no display at all. I don't know where to start..
[20:41] <Ben64> minix: you NEED to explain your issue fully all on one line, explain EXACTLY what you want to do
[20:41] <Ben64> this guessing game crap is no fun
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> minix  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[20:41] <minix> simply I want to interface my usb key borad to my laptop through linux usb device driver
[20:41] <minix> that's all
[20:42] <OerHeks> minix on what linux version ?
[20:42] <Ben64> again, you need to explain more
[20:42] <minix> ubuntu 13.10
[20:42] <minix> kernel  ver. 8.0
[20:42] <Ben64> and 13.10 is dead, upgrade first, then figure out what you want to do, then come back if you can explain what you want
[20:42] <bekks> There is no kernel version 8.0 at all.
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> minix  13.10 is dead, upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[20:43] <OerHeks> keyboards should work out of the box, what keyboard exactly ??
[20:43] <OerHeks> oh wait 13.10
[20:43] <OerHeks> good troll, minix
[20:43] <minix> key board usb 2.0
[20:44] <sync0pate> anyone? with hdmi should I be able to see the BIOS screen or anything?
[20:44] <sync0pate> nothing like that seems to work
[20:44] <tgm4883> sync0pate: usually yes
[20:45] <sync0pate> tgm4883, so.. what might be going wrong if I can't?
[20:45] <combatcrab> bekks: Yes, I think that's exactly how I messed things up -confusing /bin with ~/bin. Thank you very much.
[20:45] <minix> the kernel version is 3.8
[20:45] <sync0pate> I'm just getting "no signal"#
[20:45] <tgm4883> sync0pate: bios settings possibly
[20:45] <minix> ubuntu
[20:45] <sync0pate> tgm4883, so.. I need a monitor..?
[20:45] <bekks> minix: 13.10 is dead, upgrade to a supported release, then come back when you can explain what you actually want.
[20:45] <tgm4883> sync0pate: uh, how else would you see it?
[20:46] <sync0pate> tgm4883, I mean, a vga monitor
[20:46] <sync0pate> to change the bios settings
[20:46] <minix> wht exactly do u want ?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> minix  your ubuntu is too old, it's not supported, upgrade to a supported release
[20:46] <minix> if u don't know then don't waste my time
[20:46] <tgm4883> sync0pate: possibly.
[20:47] <tgm4883> !EoL | minix
[20:47] <bekks> minix: You are wasting ours. Thank you.
[20:47] <tgm4883> lol
[20:47] <minix> i have a 3.16 kernel also
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> minix  stop
[20:47] <minix> no
[20:47] <minix> plz solve my issue
[20:47] <minix> if u know
[20:48] <tgm4883> minix: please pastebin the output of 'lsb_release -a'
[20:48] <minix> i couldn't understand....
[20:49] <bekks> !pastebin | minix
[20:49] <minix> ok
[20:50] <combatcrab> bekks: I've done something were now I'm getting a Path error from all directories when trying to run commands (Aren't I awesome?) For example: When I type "ls" from my ~/Downloads directory I get "Command 'ls' is available in '/bin/ls' The command could not be located because '/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable."
[20:50] <bekks> combatcrab: So revert that "something" you've done.
[20:51] <combatcrab> bekks: About that, I'm not sure what I did.
[20:52] <combatcrab> bekks: No worries, I'll figure it out.
[20:52] <kondratov> hi ppl
[20:52] <Comstock> 'ello
[20:52] <kondratov> first time on irc since 1999
[20:52] <ObrienDave> welcome back
[20:53] <kondratov> im amazed ppl still use irc
[20:53]  * kondratov is feeling young again
[20:53] <ObrienDave> it's getting a resurgence :)
[20:55] <tgm4883> I'm not sure why? It's one of the better services out there (probably because of it's age, from a time people cared about interoperability)
[20:56] <combatcrab> So, I think to fix my issue I need to edit my /etc/environment file to re-add /bin. How do I do that when /bin has been removed from path and therefor can't use sudo?
[20:56] <bekks> combatcrab: You are STILL mixing up /bin and /home/youruser/bin
[20:57] <combatcrab> bekks: I do mean /bin now. I've messed up that directory and need to fix it.
[20:57] <combatcrab> bekks: ...methinks.
[20:57] <bekks> combatcrab: Explain "messed up that directory" please.
[20:57] <OerHeks> did you edit your ~/.profile ?
[20:59] <kondratov> i got this fujutsu siemens laptop, 2ghz celeron, 2 gb ddr2, and i just installed ubuntu on it, coz win7 ain;t doing the trick
[20:59] <Comstock> congrats!
[20:59] <ObrienDave> \o/
[20:59] <combatcrab> bekks: It's my best guess..
[21:00] <bekks> combatcrab: your best guess is what?
[21:00] <bekks> combatcrab: Explain "I messed up /bin" please.
[21:00] <combatcrab> bekks: That's my weak "explanation"
[21:01] <ObrienDave> in other words, you don't know what you did to mess it up ;P
[21:01] <kondratov> now, i am total newbie in linux, but i like it. i like how it looks and how fast it feels. and the best... the cherry on the top. i like the text browser. got tired of pop=ups and looking for a PDF for hours in that "login to download" maze
[21:01] <combatcrab> bekks: But I see now that doesn't add up.
[21:01] <kondratov> so... my goal now is to make my ubuntu faster on my machine.
[21:02] <kondratov> do you guys have some advice on where to start reading?
[21:02] <ObrienDave> it will only go as fast as your system allows
[21:02] <kondratov> do you have any advice on where to start reading about linux?
[21:02] <ObrienDave> !manual
[21:02] <combatcrab> bekks: Or, maybe it does add up. Now, when I try to "sudo" from any directory it tells me that sudo is avail in /user/bin, but /user/bin is not in Path. So...I've somehow messed up /bin and removed it from path.
[21:03] <combatcrab> bekks: I guess that's my explanation.
[21:03] <EriC^^> combatcrab: type echo $PATH
[21:03] <backbox> hi
[21:03] <locksmith2> haia
[21:03] <bekks> combatcrab: No. You messed up your environment, not some directory.
[21:03] <bprompt> kondratov:     pretty decently optimized as it's, so, your speed will depend lots on your hardware, how fast is your cpu? quad? dual? single core?
[21:04] <backbox> #
[21:04] <combatcrab> EriC^^: output is HOME/user/bin
[21:04] <bprompt> kondratov:    in channel would be better
[21:04] <combatcrab> EriC^^: or rather home/user/bin
[21:04] <Phrozen_One> Hello All! I'm trying to find which logs would be helpful or troubleshooting steps to try with a graphics issue. Whenever I log out or change the appearance of gnome (fonts for instance) I get a black screen with just my cursor. Ubuntu 14.04, asus laptop w/nvidia optimus, nvidia prop driver, gnome classic.
[21:04] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, did you edit ~/.profile ~/.bashrc or something else?
[21:05] <combatcrab> EriC^^: I ran (among other things), export PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[21:05] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, open a new terminal and type echo $PATH
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Phrozen_One: The Xorg log is ' /vat/log/Xorg.0.log ' . A place to start .
[21:06] <combatcrab> EriC^^: Output: {PATH}:/home/jerry/bin
[21:06] <Phrozen_One> Bashing-om, thank you!
[21:06] <Bashing-om> /var/*
[21:06] <bprompt> kondratov:    in channel would be better
[21:07] <kondratov> roger that
[21:07] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, pastebin ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc
[21:08] <combatcrab> EriC^^: googling "pastebin"
[21:08] <EriC^^> !paste
[21:11] <kondratov> do you use mozzilla or chromium?
[21:12] <bekks> Firefox.
[21:12] <kondratov> how about the text browsers?
[21:12] <B0g4r7_> lynx baby.
[21:12] <kondratov> lynx?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> kondratov  mozilla is a company, it has other products than firefox too
[21:13] <combatcrab> EriC^^: # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells.
[21:13] <combatcrab> # This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login
[21:13] <combatcrab> # exists.
[21:13] <combatcrab> # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples.
[21:13] <combatcrab> # the files are located in the bash-doc package.
[21:13] <kondratov> monkey, thanks for schooling me:)
[21:13] <combatcrab> # the default umask is set in /etc/profile; for setting the umask
[21:13] <kondratov> how do i get lynx installed? i see there is some sort of app store in here but i cant find lynx
[21:13] <bekks> sudp apt-get install lynx
[21:14] <bekks> !info lynx
[21:14] <kondratov> thank you
[21:14] <BotchlaB> So, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I just installed this widget as described on the page: http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/gis-weather-widget-updated-and-now.html
[21:14] <BotchlaB> However, whenever I iconify all open windows, it disappears from the desktop.
[21:14] <BotchlaB> I have to use alt + tab to bring it back.
[21:14] <BotchlaB> Anyone know what's going on here?
[21:14] <EriC^^> combatcrab: paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[21:15] <combatcrab> EriC^^: Okay, working that now. Thank you for your help!
[21:16] <combatcrab>  EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982475/
[21:17] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, pastebin ~/.bashrc
[21:17] <combatcrab> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982482/
[21:17] <OerHeks> BotchlaB, better ask the author, if there is any info available.
[21:18] <OerHeks> we cannot support ppa' s
[21:18] <BotchlaB> OerHeks: Hm, good call, I may do that. Yes, there is, I believe, and I can probably ask him in his native language.
[21:18] <BotchlaB> Thanks!
[21:18] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, type nano ~/.bashrc and remove the line at the bottom that says export PATH=...
[21:19] <bprompt> BotchlaB:   from the looks of it, seems it works mainly in the Unity window manager/environment
[21:19] <BotchlaB> bprompt: Ah, I see.
[21:19] <BotchlaB> bprompt: Hence the bizarre/unexpected behavior in LXDE.
[21:19] <combatcrab> EriC^^: Can't nano... The command could not be located because '/bin:/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable
[21:19] <EriC^^> combatcrab: right, type /usr/bin/nano ~/.bashrc
[21:20] <bprompt> BotchlaB:      yeah, it may be using a Unity environment component to show in the desktop
[21:20] <BotchlaB> bprompt: Yeah.
[21:21] <Dude3> when I do df -h, it shows 812GB used of 916GB
[21:21] <combatcrab> EriC^^: Okay, done.
[21:21] <Dude3> but it says 50G free
[21:21] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, did you save it?
[21:22] <combatcrab> EriC^^: I did, and now I can execute commands from the terminal again!
[21:22] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, great
[21:22] <combatcrab> EriC^^: Thank you so much!
[21:22] <EriC^^> so what's the issue you were having?
[21:23] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:23] <combatcrab> EriC^^: It's an issue I created while trying to add a usr/bin directory - in order to run an IRSSI notification script...w
[21:23] <ObrienDave> \\o//
[21:23] <wafflejock> Dude3, show your output in a pastebin
[21:24] <moh_> hello all
[21:24] <combatcrab> EriC^^: After creating ~/bin, I ran that command based on some instructions I found online. Not fully understanding what it does. (silly)
[21:24] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, so does the script work now?
[21:25] <combatcrab> EriC^^: What I think I learned from bekks, is that when I create ~/bin "PATH" will update itself without any need for intervention on my part
[21:25] <EriC^^> combatcrab: yeah, that's true
[21:25] <JustAPerson> Is there a shortcut to move a window between screens?
[21:25] <combatcrab> EriC^^: I need to try again with the script, as in start over. Thank you again for your help here!
[21:25] <wafflejock> Dude3, easy way is sudo apt-get install pastebinit, df -h | pastebinit
[21:26] <EriC^^> combatcrab: ok, np
[21:26] <combatcrab> EriC^^: So to try and understand what just happened. I changed my environment to run commands from ~/bin instead of /bin. That's why I needed to append ~/bin to run nano?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> combatcrab: For additional help with irssi scripts there is #irssi on this server - they too are a friendly bunch.
[21:28] <OerHeks> JustAPerson, yes, shift crl alt + arrows ( or hold win key for list of shortcuts )
[21:28] <EriC^^> combatcrab: yeah, your $PATH wasn't correct so you had to include the full path to the command to run it
[21:28] <combatcrab> Bashing-om: thank you sir I'll add that channel
[21:29] <combatcrab> EriC^^: Got it. That helps, I think I just learned a lot.
[21:30] <moh_> i must say this seems like the busiest channel ive been to
[21:30] <moh_> every other seems dead
[21:36] <JustAPerson> OerHeks: that moves between workspaces
[21:36] <JustAPerson> I mean between screens as in monitors
[21:43] <OerHeks> JustAPerson, no, i guess not.
[21:44] <user1254> JustAPerson: if you use compiz , go to compiz config mananger > window management > Put . There you can specify a key to move an window to the next screen (called output) or a specific one
[21:47] <JustAPerson> user1254: for what version of ubuntu? this is what I see in 15.04 http://i.imgur.com/Lb458f3.png
[21:49] <user1254> JustAPerson: im running 15.04 too
[21:50] <gustav___> How can I reduce Ubuntu's memory usage?
[21:51] <ObrienDave> don't run so muck junk at once ;P
[21:51] <ObrienDave> *much
[21:51] <k1l_> gustav___: see what uses memory and think about if you need that service.
[21:51] <k1l_> gustav___: but keep in mind, that free memory is spoiled memory
[21:52] <gustav___> I need everything.
[21:52] <gustav___> I have free memory but it's still slow.
[21:52] <k1l_> gustav___: well, what hardware is it?
[21:52] <cliffordkasper> exit
[21:52] <gustav___> k1l_: What do I paste?
[21:53] <k1l_> gustav___: cpu, ram, gpu, hdd or ssd? what ubuntu exactly?
[21:53] <OerHeks> choose a lighter ubuntu desktop, like xubuntu
[21:54] <gustav___> k1l_: Is there a command to gather all that data? Anyway, it's Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.
[21:54] <k1l_> "lshw"
[21:54] <gustav___> Hold on.
[21:55] <Comstock> xubuntu is great on my lower end laptop
[21:55] <gustav___> Reinstalling is not an option really. I like my system as it is.
[21:55] <user1254> JustAPerson: you probbaly need to install the 'main' plugins for compiz also: sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default
[21:55] <kaikun97> hi
[21:56] <gustav___> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982775/ It's low on RAM.
[21:56] <kaikun97> I just switch from Windows 10 to Ububtu Today :)
[21:56] <ObrienDave> gustav___, you don't reinstall, you just add and use a lighter DE
[21:56] <kaikun97> *switched
[21:56] <gustav___> ObrienDave: I'm using WindowMaker on X11.
[21:56] <BotchlaB> kaikun97 \o/
[21:56] <kaikun97> Windows 10 privacy policy threw me off
[21:57] <kaikun97> so using linux now :(
[21:57] <kaikun97> :)
[21:57] <Comstock> i have 3 gigs of ram total and with everything i normally run i am using 1.2 gigs of ram
[21:57] <kaikun97> my friend helped me install it
[21:57] <Comstock> thats with XFCE window manager
[21:57] <k1l_> gustav___: 3GB ram?
[21:57] <ObrienDave> gustav___, I have no clue what that is :)
[21:57] <gustav___> ObrienDave: It's light.
[21:57] <kaikun97> I have 4GB RAM
[21:57] <gustav___> k1l_: Yeah.
[21:57] <kaikun97> what desktop do you lot reccomens?
[21:57] <kaikun97> I am thinking XFCE or KDE
[21:58] <k1l_> gustav___: i dont know how fast windowmaker is.
[21:58] <user1254> JustAPerson: maybe better : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main compiz-plugins-main-default
[21:58] <gustav___> From what I see, WindowMaker is using 80k of RAM.
[21:58] <k1l_> gustav___: "fast"
[21:59] <gustav___> k1l_: True but there's no problem with WindowMaker when I run low on RAM, it keeps going like usual.
[21:59] <k1l_> gustav___: with a ssd that system still should be running fast. so see "free -m" if you are using swap.
[21:59] <gustav___> I am.
[21:59] <gustav___> 32GB of swap. o_O
[22:00] <k1l_> gustav___: i dont know about windowmaker. could be the issue that its the bottleneck, not because of ram usage, but because of slowness.
[22:00] <bekks> gustav___: Pastebin "free -m" please.
[22:00] <user1254> JustAPerson: since Put is probbaly in 'compiz-plugins-main'
[22:00] <ObrienDave> you dont need that much swap
[22:00] <gustav___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11982801/
[22:00] <gustav___> Well, Ubuntu set it up.
[22:00] <bekks> ObrienDave: Having 32G RAM and wanting hibernation, you do.
[22:01] <bekks> gustav___: You are using 325M of your swap.
[22:01] <gustav___> bekks: True. It's nasty.
[22:01] <k1l_> well, its using swap.
[22:01] <ObrienDave> bekks, i saw 4GB ram. another user ;P
[22:06] <wellington_gois> boa noite
[22:13] <rimdeker> Hey folks. I got an issue. My machine always has a load average of greater than 1.0, it runs smoothly and all but with just my IRC client and htop running, it's at 1.32
[22:14] <bekks> rimdeker: To take a look at "ps aux" to see whats consuming your CPU.
[22:16] <rimdeker> bekks: The highest one seems to be /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/mdm/:0.Xauth vt8 at 4% of cpu usage
[22:17] <rimdeker> other processes are all at 0 or close to 0 %
[22:17] <bekks> rimdeker: And why are you worried about the meaningless output of load? :)
[22:18] <rimdeker> bekks: Is it, though?
[22:19] <bekks> rimdeker: It is :)
[22:19] <tgm4883> I'd argue that it is meaningless in day to day operation, however if you were experiencing performance issues we'd want to look at it
[22:20] <rimdeker> But doesn't it mean that every process has to wait to get some CPU time? So I'd think something's using up the CPU but top/ps/htop don't show anything
[22:20] <rimdeker> I got btrfs so I thought it might be some background scrubbing
[22:20] <rimdeker> but wouldn't that be displayed as well?
[22:22] <bekks> rimdeker: No.
[22:22] <ObrienDave> people worry way too much
[22:22] <OerHeks> rimdeker, how many cores?
[22:22] <rimdeker> OerHeks: 4
[22:23] <OerHeks> oh, no worrie, "Basically, load average is the amount of traffic to your CPU(s) over the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes. Generally you want this number to be below the number of CPU(s)/cores you have. 1.0 on a single core machine means it's using the CPU to it's maximum,...¨
[22:23] <k1l_> rimdeker: so its a multicore cpu so the load of 1 is not the breaking point?
[22:23] <OerHeks> your is probably 4, or 8 with HT
[22:23] <rimdeker> It's an i5, don't know if they got HT actually
[22:23] <rimdeker> nproc does show 4
[22:24] <Paddy_NI> I was given an Ubuntu Phone (bq Aquaris E4.5) today by a friend and have been trying to reach him for the "passcode" which seems to be a 4 digit number. I have tried factory reset however this does not seem to remove the passcode, would anyone know if there is anything else I can do to remove it whilst I await his response?
[22:24] <OerHeks> Paddy_NI, ask in #ubuntu-touch for phone help
[22:24] <rimdeker> k1l_: Yeah, I guess. Still kind of weird. My VPS is at 0.05 most of the time
[22:24] <Paddy_NI> ah yes I thought that would exist
[22:24] <rimdeker> k1l_: hosting a bunch of things
[22:24] <Paddy_NI> thanks OerHeks
[22:25] <k1l_> rimdeker: vps is a total different horse
[22:25] <rimdeker> Wait, got access to like 25 workstations. Am curious now
[22:26] <bastones> rimdeker: I think all quad i5's come with HT.
[22:27] <rimdeker> Oh man, this feels like a small annoying wound that you can't stop touching and fiddling around with
[22:28] <rimdeker> All the workstations except one running some screen session are at 0.x :/
[22:29] <tgm4883> rimdeker: stop the programs you are running, see if the load returns to 0
[22:29] <tgm4883> rimdeker: give it a few seconds to do so (30s)
[22:29] <tgm4883> rimdeker: if it does, start up one program at a time, see which one is causing you the excess load
[22:30] <tgm4883> these are pretty basic troubleshooting steps that people don't seem to recognize
[22:30] <rimdeker> tgm4883: I already tried. I always run 5 programs and tried shutting them off one by one then running them one by one. atm I'm running hexchat only and it's not the culprit
[22:31] <rimdeker> I guess I can try shutting down all sorts of background processes
[22:31] <tgm4883> rimdeker: what about after a fresh reboot? And what version of ubuntu is this?
[22:32] <rimdeker> tgm4883: 14.04 , fresh reboot is the same. Though, I want to try something, going to restart it and not log in via the DM but per ssh. See what it looks like then
[22:32] <dcope> in a crontab, 0 6 * * * will only run once at 6 AM each day, right?
[22:33] <tgm4883> dcope: yes
[22:45] <MoLE_> Ingress
[22:45] <Fuchs> Outgress
[22:47] <IPhoton> Can we ask questions here if its Linux mint related?
[22:47] <iMattTux> first time irc user, lurking while I read docs. looking for help with Ubuntu on an old MacPro 1,1
[22:48] <tgm4883> !mint | IPhoton
[22:48] <daftykins> iMattTux: 1,1? what
[22:48] <daftykins> !mac
[22:49] <daftykins> oh dear Hardy Heron is the newest listed 1,1 ;)
[22:49] <iMattTux> Have read ALL the forum docs on mactel support
[22:49] <daftykins> yeah that link was for my benefit to check
[22:49] <iMattTux> 1,1 refers to my MacPro, late 2007, Intel Xeon 64b, but 32b EFI
[22:50] <iMattTux> have also read all of refit and refind info
[22:50] <daftykins> that's gonna be messy then
[22:51] <daftykins> is there really much point?
[22:51] <iMattTux> I'm doing it because it is hard. I will not give up
[22:52] <iMattTux> None of the recent versions will boot from liveCD
[22:52] <tgm4883> iMattTux: well, I haven't tried it yet, but I wonder if the unofficial iso for the intel HDMI sticks would work
[22:52] <daftykins> i remember the whole 32-bit EFI thing was a bug a bit ago, introduced by Windows 8.1 with Bing cheap laptops
[22:52] <tgm4883> since those have 32-bit uefi
[22:52] <daftykins> well not bug but an evil situation really
[22:53] <tgm4883> yes, it's dumb
[22:53] <iMattTux> I went all the way back to Ubuntu 7.10 i386 to get a bootable CD
[22:53] <OerHeks> 32 bit efi ..?  maybe this page is any help  http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[22:54] <iMattTux> I've partitioned my drives, installed and then my keyboard fails when I get to Grub
[22:54] <tgm4883> I'd take a look at http://liliputing.com/2015/07/install-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-the-2gb-intel-compute-stick.html
[22:55] <daftykins> iMattTux: well bear in mind we're not going to help with EOL releases
[22:55] <iMattTux> OerHeks: I've read that and the 32b EFI
[22:56] <iMattTux> tgm 4883: that's a link I haven't seen. Will check. Thx ;-)
[22:58] <courrier_> Hey guys! What encryption system as easy as truecrypt do you use to crypt an external volume (hard disk usb key...)?
[22:59] <courrier_> I see that CipherShed is a fork but not in the Ubuntu repos
[23:02] <user1254> courrier_: EncFs?
[23:03] <user1254> courrier_: has an gnome encfs manager GUI tool which is quite handy
[23:04] <rimdeker> tgm4883, bekks, OerHeks, k1l_: I found the program that was causing the high load. Just wanted to thank you guys for helping
[23:04] <bekks> rimdeker: And what was it?
[23:04] <rimdeker> Some VirtualBox thread called iprt-VboxTscThr or something like that. Saw it being 'D' in ps
[23:05] <bekks> rimdeker: Thats a scheduling thread for virtualbox.
[23:05] <rimdeker> It's in some sort of uninterpretable sleep. Doesn't do anything but apparently kernel registers that as load
[23:05] <rimdeker> bekks: Yeah, exactly
[23:07] <rimdeker> Anyway, killed it (even purged it because I'm not using VirtualBox atm lol), restarted and load is now at 0.03-0.05. I'm prolly going to re-install it soon, I'm just glad I figured out what caused the load
[23:07] <rimdeker> wouldn't have been able to sleep tonight lol
[23:11] <courrier_> user1254: mmmh what's the name of the gui binary please?
[23:11] <courrier_> I found cryptkeeper but it's apparently a different tool
[23:11] <courrier_> and I'm not sure that cryptkeeper actually crypts a whole disk
[23:12] <courrier_> just a folder
[23:12] <courrier_> oh but the gui is in a ppa
[23:13] <user1254> courrier_: GEncfsM
[23:13] <courrier_> user1254: yeap but it needs a ppa, right?
[23:13] <user1254> courrier_: i think so yes
[23:13] <courrier_> ppa:gencfsm
[23:16] <user1254> courrier_: yep
[23:17] <courrier_> user1254: thanks
[23:17] <courrier_> I'm also testing cryptkeeper
[23:17] <courrier_> ever used this tool?
[23:18] <user1254> courrier_:ive never used cryptkeeper no
[23:19] <feneco> :D
[23:20] <feneco> hello
[23:21] <user1254> courrier_: veracrypt seems to be a fork of truecrypt and im using that one. compatib with truecrypt. do you know veracrypt?
[23:22] <user1254> courrier_: im using veracrypt on windows, encfs on ubuntu
[23:28] <DiegoG> anyone know why I get black screen after install nvidia driver 352? I've a Dell XPS L502x with two graphic card one dedicated Intel and other passive nvidia 525M.
[23:30] <courrier_> I'm suddenly figuring out that right after formatting my external hard disk in ext4, it is mounted as root :/
[23:30] <courrier_> I'm using autom mounting by double clicking the device on my desktop
[23:30] <courrier_> from a non-root session
[23:30] <mike_ippy> looking for help installing ubuntu 12.0.4 - receiving: The creation of swap space in partition of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[23:35] <skatman> d]
[23:35] <daftykins> mike_ippy: physical PC?
[23:38] <anonymous> hi
[23:39] <mike_ippy> yes, physical PC
[23:40] <mike_ippy> I just attempted to create the partitons using GParted, and received this error: /dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[23:41] <mike_ippy> when i attempt to install without a swap space I receive a similar error in the ext4 formatting
[23:43] <stallmen> guys
[23:43] <stallmen> what do u get when u do uname -r
[23:43] <stallmen> can someone do it
[23:43] <daftykins> mike_ippy: is it to be the sole OS? why are you picking as old as 12.04?
[23:43] <stallmen> and post it
[23:44] <daftykins> stallmen: why? we could all be on different ubuntu versions and kernels
[23:44] <stallmen> im just confuzzled
[23:45] <stallmen> so if no one wants to help me
[23:45] <stallmen> then so be it
[23:45] <mike_ippy> It is to be the sole OS. I chose 12.04 after I experienced a similar error in the installatin of 14.04
[23:46] <daftykins> stallmen: no need to be dramatic, just clarify why this would help you
[23:46] <daftykins> mike_ippy: hmm, are you typing from a live session on the target system right now?
[23:46] <mike_ippy> yes, i ran Try Ubuntu to attempt and debug
[23:46] <stallmen> daftykins: please
[23:46] <stallmen> uname -r
[23:47] <daftykins> stallmen: no.
[23:47] <daftykins> !info linux-generic
[23:47] <tgm4883> stallmen: why?
[23:48] <stallmen> daftykins: im fr**king mad rightn ow
[23:48] <stallmen> do it or ill ddos the whole network
[23:48] <daftykins> mike_ippy: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" followed by "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and share the link
[23:48] <stallmen> im not fr**king kidding
[23:48] <daftykins> stallmen: grow up and leave.
[23:48] <tgm4883> stallmen: what will that command do to my system?
[23:48] <stallmen> tgm4883: i dont know
[23:48] <stallmen> thats what im trying to find out
[23:48] <daftykins> it prints the running kernel version
[23:48] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:48] <mike_ippy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11983257/
[23:48] <jay_> google the command
[23:49] <tgm4883> stallmen: uname-r: command not found
[23:49] <squinty> it just displays the kernel that is being currently used
[23:49] <stallmen> theres a space
[23:49] <stallmen> uname -r
[23:49] <genii> tgm4883: Space before the -r
[23:49] <stallmen> squinty: then why is everyone scared
[23:49] <stallmen> im scared now too
[23:49] <stallmen> i hope it doesnt break tgm4883's system
[23:49] <tgm4883> daftykins: I know what it does ;)
[23:50] <squinty> stallmen,  mature up please and quit with the kiddie threats.  you are not helping yourself in anyway at all
[23:50] <daftykins> tgm4883: heh, i did wonder
[23:50] <bazhang> hes gone
[23:50] <mike_ippy> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11983257/
[23:50] <tgm4883> daftykins: I've been painting mini's for the last 1-2 hours, so I needed some comedic break :) I probably should have just left it alone
[23:50] <daftykins> hehe, np
[23:51] <Validus> Hey guys I have a bit of an essay coming but I was hoping you could help me out with my current Ubuntu install.
[23:51] <Validus> Hey guys, I just updated my 15.04 install, rebooted and have gotten into a massive mess! Basically when I rebooted I entered my password and it seemed like everything was fine but then it just took me back to the login screen. Even if I tried to go in as a guest it would fail. I have googled the issue and from that I chowned my home directory and removed .Xauthority.
[23:51] <daftykins> mike_ippy: yeah i take more than 5 seconds to check :) looks fine, try "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=50" to write zeroes onto the first 100MB of the drive, then try installing again with all the defaults such as partitioning left in the installer
[23:51] <jay_> uname -r give the kernel version
[23:52] <daftykins> yeah you're a bit late to the party
[23:52] <tgm4883> lol
[23:52] <daftykins> mike_ippy: it's possible your media is corrupt too?
[23:52] <mike_ippy> daftykins: sorry - forgot to tag you so i resent it
[23:52] <Validus> I then tried startx and that said that I was missing Nvidia drivers, so I tried to install them via the guide on the Nvidia site and they seemed to install correctly, however then I had bigger problems when I typed start X it gave me usr/bin/x not found
[23:52] <Validus> and that's pretty much where I'm stuck.
[23:53] <daftykins> Validus: sounds fine, don't ever run startx though - bad things occur.
[23:53] <Validus> Oh? Well i still can't login.
[23:53] <daftykins> Validus: are you able to view a TTY? i.e. Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login CLI?
[23:53] <daftykins> yeah but running that may've worsened things, so bear in mind not to do so again
[23:53] <mike_ippy> daftykins: beginning to think it might be corrupted - either that or the device was in a RAID array and keeping the drive open.
[23:54] <daftykins> mike_ippy: so the zero above would be helpful
[23:54] <daftykins> i doubt any RAID remnants would cause issue
[23:54] <mike_ippy> received the same error during installation
[23:54] <daftykins> what, just now after the dd?
[23:54] <mike_ippy> yes
[23:54] <Validus> daftykins: That's where I'm doing all this stuff, what's odd is that I couldn't get to it when running Ubuntu as normal and I have to go into the recovery menu to get there.
[23:54] <Validus> And I wont touch startx again then
[23:55] <daftykins> Validus: ah well, check your home path for any files not owned by you. "ls -al ~/"
[23:55] <Validus> So I chowned my whole home path
[23:55] <daftykins> hate it when people do the shotgun approach =|
[23:55] <daftykins> you don't even know now whether that was the issue!
[23:56] <Validus> it seemed to be the best solution from stack overflow.
[23:56] <daftykins> what
[23:56] <daftykins> ugh, nevermind
[23:56] <daftykins> so now restart lightdm and try logging in again
[23:57] <Validus> So I have had to boot into my windows partition to chat to you guys, so I was just seeing if you had any guidence.
[23:57] <Validus> Is that the best plan?
[23:57] <daftykins> oh so you weren't actually doing what i was suggesting?
[23:57] <Validus> what do you mean?
[23:57] <daftykins> well had you already done the chown previously?
[23:58] <Validus> Yeah
[23:58] <daftykins> so you didn't do it just now...
[23:58] <daftykins> boot it up and test the guest session, see whether that's normal
[23:58] <Validus> I can't get into that either
[23:58] <Validus> Well I couldn't last boot anyway
[23:58] <mike_ippy> daftykins: based on what I'm reading in GParted it seems like I cannot format this drive no matter what
[23:58] <daftykins> mike_ippy: why use gparted? dd should've been enough to show whether it's writing to the drive at all
[23:59] <daftykins> Validus: sounds like a graphics driver issue then perhaps
[23:59] <Validus> yeah that's why I installed the nvidia driver using their site guide but that didn't seem to help.
[23:59] <mike_ippy> daftykins: dd ran with no errors (at least none that i could tell)
[23:59] <daftykins> Validus: you shouldn't have installed from their site really.
[23:59] <Validus> I installed their closed source driver using the guide from their site.