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| Johnny-- | hey guys, does anyone know how to get to the sound settings, besides clicking on the volume icon in the panel? | 03:05 |
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| xubuntu34w | hi, please i need install interface gnome in my xubuntu | 03:06 |
| holstein | xubuntu34w: sure. use the package manager of your choice, to search for, and install what you like | 03:06 |
| Unit193 | Johnny--: Menu → Multimedia | 03:07 |
| Unit193 | gnome-shell, or flashback, or whatever it is. | 03:07 |
| xubuntu34w | only gnome-shell or gnome3? | 03:07 |
| holstein | xubuntu34w: it'll look a lot like this to convert to it http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 but you may want less | 03:07 |
| holstein | as in, you may want to be able to keep xubuntu/xfce and just add gnome.. not ubuntu-gnome | 03:08 |
| Johnny-- | Unit193: thanks, the main problem is this: Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom | 03:10 |
| Johnny-- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953 | 03:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] | 03:10 |
| Johnny-- | Unit193: do u have that same problem? wifi menu is short | 03:11 |
| xubuntu34w | but the command for install gnome in xubuntu is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or sudo apt-get install gnome3 | 03:11 |
| Unit193 | Though I can't say I know what you're talking about precisely, I'd say no I do not have this problem, Johnny--. | 03:12 |
| xangua | Gnome-shell for a minimalistic approach | 03:12 |
| Johnny-- | i temporarily uninstalled, like that link^ said: xfce4-indicator-plugin indicator-application. which fixed the short wifi menu.. but now other stuff if missing like volume control LOL | 03:13 |
| Johnny-- | xubuntu34w: is there anyway to get "aero-snap" in GNOME classic/fallback? | 03:14 |
| Johnny-- | Unit193: what do these 2 progams do? (what will imiss out on anything besides the volume control) xfce4-indicator-plugin indicator-application | 03:15 |
| Unit193 | They provide xfce4-panel with access to applications' indicators, rather than tray icons. | 03:16 |
| Johnny-- | Unit193: thanks. okay, i reinstalled the xfce4-indicator-plugin. i'll reboot. BRB | 03:22 |
| xangua | Why reboot? This ain't Windows | 03:24 |
| xubuntu34w | the command gnome3 is fail, only gnome-shell operated | 03:24 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-panel -r if nothing else. | 03:25 |
| Unit193 | !info gnome3 | 03:25 |
| ubottu | Package gnome3 does not exist in vivid | 03:25 |
| xubuntu34w | ok thanks for all bye | 03:26 |
| Johnny-- | Unit193: Okay, now it works! (no more scrunched down wifi-menu) All i did was uninstall + reinstall + reboot: indicator-application-gtk2 indicator-application indicator-application | 03:34 |
| Unit193 | Johnny--: indicator-application-gtk2, what version of Xubuntu is this?? | 03:34 |
| Johnny-- | maybe u dont even have to do all 3. U guys can add that to the solution bug.launchpad, if u have a login/password (i dont): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953 | 03:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] | 03:35 |
| Johnny-- | Unit193: i'm using Linux Mint Xfce 17.2 | 03:35 |
| cfhowlett | !mint | Johnny--, | 03:36 |
| ubottu | Johnny--,: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org | 03:36 |
| cfhowlett | Johnny--, ask the mint folk for support of their product. it's not ubuntu = it's not supported here. | 03:36 |
| Johnny-- | sorry, unit helped me here, i thought we all XFCE family :) | 03:38 |
| cfhowlett | Johnny--, #xfce would agree with that statement | 03:39 |
| Unit193 | Well, to some extent, but we/Xubuntu can't know what Mint has changed, so can't really support it. | 03:39 |
| Johnny-- | i do use xubuntu 14.04 also, and i do have the same problem, it is squished but not as much (makes u scroll thru it, instead of displaying all the wifi stuff at once | 03:45 |
| Johnny-- | my 2nd computer has xubuntu 14.04.2. | 03:47 |
| Johnny-- | so i'll my uninstall/ reinstall to see if that works on xubuntu | 03:49 |
| Johnny-- | Okay, it works for xubuntu 14.04.2 also! Even more streamlined solution: | 03:59 |
| Johnny-- | Uninstall + Reinstall: indicator-application Then, just log-off + Log-in. | 04:00 |
| Johnny-- | so now, no more squished-down WiFi menu !! i'm happy now, if i u have login info, please add that simple solution to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953 | 04:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] | 04:02 |
| Johnny-- | xangua: is there anyway to get "aero-snap" in GNOME classic/fallback? | 04:04 |
| Johnny-- | Hey does anyone here know of a theme like clearlooks-phenix-theme, but with squared-off edges for GTK3? or how do u square them off, urself? | 04:19 |
| Johnny-- | or of theme like Numix, but with high contrast colors (i.e. black font, not grey) | 04:19 |
| Johnny-- | i finally found exactly that, but it is GTK2-only. Is there any way to get a similar theme to this in GTK3? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=109494 | 04:20 |
| parsnip | hi, is alt-right-click resize windows set in xfce? | 06:00 |
| parsnip | *xubuntu | 06:00 |
| Comstock | yes it works | 06:02 |
| parsnip | Comstock: me? what i meant is, is the setting created in xubuntu, or how can i change it to something like ctrl+alt+right-click drag? | 06:02 |
| parsnip | i don't know if it's at xorg level, xfce, ubuntu, debian, ... | 06:03 |
| Comstock | that i do not know, sorry | 06:03 |
| parsnip | thanks though | 06:04 |
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| === Guest56143 is now known as max12345 | ||
| Executioner` | "libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev:i386 is already the newest version." | 17:08 |
| Executioner` | "configure: gstreamer-0.10 base plugins 32-bit development files not found, gstreamer support disabled" | 17:09 |
| Executioner` | what | 17:09 |
| scodal | What's up fellow xubunters? | 17:56 |
| scodal | Hmm was frustrated trying to connect to facebook chat so just opened Trillian with Wine and that seems to work fine | 18:13 |
| scodal | Pidgin wasn't connect, forgot to note that | 18:14 |
| mrkramps | scodal, probably plugin is missing or not up-to-date | 18:15 |
| scodal | I read about perhaps needing a plugin | 18:15 |
| scodal | But doesn't it just connect through XMPP? | 18:16 |
| scodal | or did FB make some changes to their chat system | 18:16 |
| mrkramps | fb chat is _based_ on the XMPP protocol | 18:16 |
| scodal | ah gotcha | 18:16 |
| mrkramps | but you require an additional plugin to address the changes FB made | 18:16 |
| scodal | This makes sense, okay so I was kinda right lol | 18:17 |
| mrkramps | relevant changes to plugin git repository … 2 days ago | 18:17 |
| scodal | geesh, well drunk trillian on wine will do for now | 18:17 |
| scodal | I have other things I need to tackle first, but thanks for letting me know the right direction to go | 18:17 |
| mrkramps | you're welcome | 18:17 |
| scodal | I'm a web developer, php, html, css etc.. what's everyones favorite code editor? I'd like to try a few out on xu | 18:21 |
| mrkramps | scodal, there are quite some text editors available | 18:22 |
| mrkramps | even xubuntu's default editor mousepad knows about syntaxhighlighting and stuff btw. | 18:22 |
| scodal | do I have to enable syntax highlighting? | 18:23 |
| scodal | I just made a file on my desktop called file.php and all the text within is still just black on white | 18:23 |
| mrkramps | scodal, in terms of activating a color scheme | 18:23 |
| mrkramps | view - color scheme | 18:24 |
| scodal | I tried some color schemes, just looks like terminal | 18:24 |
| mrkramps | then you need to choose a file type | 18:24 |
| mrkramps | mousepad recognizes file types by mime type for syntax highlighting … or by selecting file type manually | 18:25 |
| scodal | Oh dang that did it | 18:25 |
| scodal | Convenient | 18:25 |
| scodal | Does mousepad support plugins | 18:25 |
| scodal | ? | 18:25 |
| mrkramps | no | 18:25 |
| scodal | Oblivion works for me theme. Alright cool Mousepad makes a great quick editor then | 18:26 |
| scodal | I ask because I use Sublime on Yosemite and Windows and it has an FTP plugin to sync with your work and up/download | 18:26 |
| scodal | That's ideally what I'm after | 18:26 |
| mrkramps | scodal, sublime should run on linux as well | 18:27 |
| scodal | how silly of me, I'm just noticing this on their website. it's a .deb file, that will be okay? | 18:27 |
| mrkramps | absolutely | 18:27 |
| mrkramps | actually their screenshots on the webpage are made with ubuntu ^^ | 18:27 |
| scodal | oh really? i just got the tar.bz2 | 18:27 |
| scodal | oh bad assery | 18:28 |
| scodal | what u recommend? the tar.bz2 or the .deb installation? | 18:28 |
| mrkramps | in general deb is easier | 18:28 |
| scodal | that's what i figured | 18:28 |
| mrkramps | but it depends what's in the tar.bz2 | 18:28 |
| scodal | i kinda like the tar.bz2 cause when it errors i find out things my system could use to support more things in the future lol | 18:28 |
| mrkramps | you can also use the tar.bz2 in this case | 18:30 |
| mrkramps | sublime comes with a pre-compiled binary and can be started directly from the uncompressed directory | 18:30 |
| scodal | in the .deb? | 18:30 |
| mrkramps | also in the deb with is just a different style of compress archive but known by the package manager | 18:31 |
| mrkramps | --with ++which | 18:31 |
| scodal | ah gotcha | 18:31 |
| scodal | it's been a while since i put linux on my system for full time use | 18:31 |
| scodal | my last experience was before redhat became fedora, and i ran KDE | 18:31 |
| scodal | so now i'm xubuntu xfce like :O | 18:32 |
| scodal | well not entirely true i've played with a few other distributions but something about xubuntu speaks to me | 18:32 |
| mrkramps | btw. an interesting - and free - alternative to sublime might be geany | 18:33 |
| scodal | did not expect that suggestion, thought you were about to say Atom, alright checking out geany now | 18:33 |
| Snake1130 | I really enjoy using Geany over sublime | 18:33 |
| mrkramps | atom is still quite beta, but it is good to keep an enye on it | 18:34 |
| mrkramps | Snake1130, i do not know much about sublime, but are there any advantages from using geany instead? i am just curious | 18:35 |
| scodal | I have it on my Windows computer, I used it for about a week before deciding Sublime looks the same and runs faster. Atom likes RAM | 18:36 |
| scodal | is Snake1130 also a web developer? | 18:37 |
| scodal | oh I like .deb files, I just read you should -I to check dependencies, then apt-get install to retrieve, then -i to install | 18:38 |
| Snake1130 | I think it was the price difference. I would try out Geany and see what you think. Everyone is different | 18:38 |
| scodal | and just like that, Sublime works on my computer | 18:38 |
| scodal | I have a license for Sublime, but yes, $ is a deterrent | 18:39 |
| Snake1130 | Geany did everything I needed out of an editor but like I said, everyone is different. | 18:40 |
| scodal | Right, yeah editors one of the biggest debates on line of all time lol | 18:40 |
| scodal | Where I work we get in fights about it | 18:40 |
| mrkramps | scodal, i guess that's the reason why there are so many different editors nowadays | 18:41 |
| mrkramps | ^^ | 18:41 |
| scodal | to draw blood in fights at work | 18:41 |
| scodal | I'm just glad everyone quit using Dreamweaver, it's so clunky | 18:42 |
| scodal | You runnin 32 or 64bit? | 18:43 |
| mrkramps | scodal, because of dependencies i would recommend using the deb for your system's architecture | 18:45 |
| mrkramps | although i do not know if subline has any dependencies at all | 18:45 |
| scodal | right right, that was glorious, compared to reading a bunch of error messages looking for something to google | 18:45 |
| scodal | it said negative on dependencies. i'm up and running licensed version of sublime already, with my SFTP plugin installed and also licensed | 18:46 |
| scodal | happy scodal right here | 18:46 |
| scodal | shoot, on windows I know the name of monospace fonts off the top of my head, what are good monospace fonts on linux? | 18:47 |
| scodal | I shall google.. | 18:47 |
| scodal | Mmmm Inconsolata is hot | 18:52 |
| Snake1130 | looks good | 18:57 |
| mrkramps | scodal, you may also try Terminus | 19:02 |
| mrkramps | it's a matter of taste - no question - but at least for me it works pretty nice for plain text (and irc) | 19:03 |
| scodal | I liked Terminus too, I have settled on Inconsolata though.. for now | 19:04 |
| scodal | So my two next big experiment/tackles are: dual screen & windows network shares | 19:06 |
| scodal | Any thoughts before I start getting my hands dirty? | 19:06 |
| mrkramps | scodal, dual screen depends a lot on your use case | 19:06 |
| mrkramps | and windows share on if you're want to connect or host them | 19:06 |
| scodal | connect to | 19:09 |
| scodal | for now | 19:09 |
| mrkramps | that's easy as xfce's file manager (thunar) supports samba shares via gvfs | 19:09 |
| mrkramps | try url 'smb://WORKGROUP;USER@IP/SHARE' | 19:10 |
| scodal | nice! samba, ah yes I remember this. I map network drives like a mad man. Is that also possible in xfce? | 19:10 |
| scodal | ok just a sec | 19:10 |
| mrkramps | alternatively use gigolo to manage your connections | 19:11 |
| scodal | smb://1;USER@GAMING/f$ | 19:11 |
| scodal | does it work like that? Yes my workgroup is 1, to avoid capitalization confusion | 19:12 |
| scodal | my username is User | 19:12 |
| scodal | can I use network names or do I have to specify the local IP? | 19:12 |
| mrkramps | network names work | 19:12 |
| scodal | where do I paste that? I tried the "Run" box and Firefox address bar lol | 19:12 |
| mrkramps | scodal, in the address/url/path/whatever bar in file manger | 19:13 |
| Snake1130 | in the thunar bar | 19:13 |
| scodal | thunar! new term to me, ok looking for thunar | 19:13 |
| mrkramps | scodal, thunar = file manager | 19:13 |
| scodal | oh that just opens file manager, is that.. | 19:13 |
| scodal | yep ok | 19:13 |
| scodal | haha | 19:13 |
| Snake1130 | lol yes. | 19:13 |
| Snake1130 | scondal: When you open Thunar I can normally see the network on the left side bar. Lets me browse for the share I'm looking for. | 19:18 |
| Snake1130 | scodal* | 19:18 |
| scodal | Nice I see this now | 19:18 |
| scodal | and I connected easily to my network share thank you | 19:18 |
| scodal | These small things make such a huge difference in how productive I feel on linux | 19:18 |
| mrkramps | yeah, that should work as well, but sometimes it don't and you the should now about URI solutions | 19:18 |
| scodal | can you add the password to the smb:// address? | 19:19 |
| mrkramps | scodal, i don't think so | 19:20 |
| scodal | chalk that one up as reasons: "security" | 19:20 |
| mrkramps | but this is where gigolo comes in handy to manage these connections more effectively | 19:20 |
| scodal | Custom Location? | 19:21 |
| mrkramps | scodal, windows Share ;) | 19:21 |
| scodal | shoot, timed out | 19:22 |
| scodal | asked for password and everything | 19:22 |
| scodal | Oh windows share lol | 19:22 |
| scodal | I should try that method | 19:22 |
| scodal | derp | 19:22 |
| mrkramps | damn, obviously gigolo as well can't handle passwords | 19:22 |
| scodal | well in this case, it asks for Server: and Share: | 19:23 |
| Snake1130 | I haven't used Gigolo but it looks like a great way to go. | 19:23 |
| scodal | do I just put network name + share name? | 19:23 |
| mrkramps | or prolly you need to have the gnome keyring installed to handle passwords | 19:23 |
| scodal | gross I hate keyrings lol | 19:23 |
| scodal | who's idea was that | 19:23 |
| Snake1130 | There is one built into xfce. | 19:23 |
| scodal | I seent it sneaking up pestering me lol | 19:24 |
| scodal | reminds me of Yosemite | 19:24 |
| scodal | well damn how do I access my keyring | 19:24 |
| scodal | I typed it and no results | 19:24 |
| scodal | I see when you choose Gigolo windows share, it just writes the same thing, the whole smb:// out | 19:25 |
| scodal | It's hating my password for no reason | 19:25 |
| jeepon | Hello | 19:48 |
| xubuntu46w | hello | 19:50 |
| xubuntu46w | ? | 19:50 |
| knome | hello | 19:50 |
| xubuntu46w | hi, can you help, please ? | 19:50 |
| knome | ask the question and find out | 19:50 |
| xubuntu46w | well.. I installed xubuntu and after that I installed Windows | 19:51 |
| mrkramps | xubuntu46w, wrong order :) | 19:52 |
| xubuntu46w | but i cant restore grub or use a live cd to do this | 19:52 |
| xubuntu46w | yeah I know | 19:52 |
| xubuntu46w | but I needed to make a backup first | 19:52 |
| xubuntu46w | and now I cant acess xubuntu partition | 19:52 |
| xubuntu46w | even if I use a live CD | 19:52 |
| xubuntu46w | Do you know anything that can help me? | 19:53 |
| mrkramps | xubuntu46w, what do you mean by "cannot access" | 19:55 |
| mrkramps | does this partition still exist? | 19:55 |
| xubuntu46w | yes | 19:55 |
| xubuntu46w | if I use a live cd to see all my devices | 19:55 |
| xubuntu46w | It wont show xubuntu's partition | 19:55 |
| mrkramps | it the partition encrypted? | 19:56 |
| mrkramps | *is | 19:56 |
| xubuntu46w | yes, this is why i cant acess it ? | 19:56 |
| mrkramps | have a guess | 19:57 |
| xubuntu46w | haha | 19:58 |
| xubuntu46w | I had not really thought about it .. | 19:59 |
| jeepon | Hey guys, I've got a question as well | 20:00 |
| xubuntu46w | is there a way to decrypt it ? | 20:00 |
| xubuntu46w | i know it does, but how ? | 20:00 |
| xubuntu46w | cryptsetup ? | 20:00 |
| jeepon | Is it possible to install xubuntu on a usb drive? | 20:01 |
| ObrienDave | jeepon, yes it is | 20:01 |
| jeepon | Well it's not working :/ | 20:02 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, elaborate | 20:02 |
| xubuntu46w | does anyone have an idea about decrypt it ? | 20:02 |
| jeepon | I put the installer using Unetbootin on one usb drive, booted normally and in the installer chose "something else" to set the partitions manually | 20:03 |
| jeepon | Split the target usb drive into 2 partitions, 1 Primary ext4 as root and another logical for swap | 20:05 |
| jeepon | And I chose the device (and later the root partition) for the boot loader | 20:05 |
| ObrienDave | you need one for /home | 20:05 |
| knome | ObrienDave, nope. | 20:05 |
| knome | ObrienDave, /home is optional | 20:06 |
| xubuntu46w | :/ | 20:06 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, you use the live usb as an installation target? | 20:06 |
| jeepon | on my laptop, I can't even choose it as a boot option, on another computer I get a "missing operating system" error | 20:07 |
| jeepon | nope, 2 different usb drives | 20:07 |
| xubuntu46w | "mount: /dev/sda3 is write-protected, mounting read-only" | 20:11 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, Lecacy or EFI boot management? | 20:14 |
| Snake1130 | xubuntu46w: do you remember what encryption you used? | 20:15 |
| jeepon | EFI | 20:15 |
| xubuntu46w | no, i just clicked on encrypt my home folder option while installing xubuntu | 20:16 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, prolly grub efi failed because you used the manual partitioning | 20:16 |
| mrkramps | you need an additional efi parition | 20:16 |
| mrkramps | at least iirc | 20:16 |
| Snake1130 | xubuntu46w: Check this information out http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line | 20:17 |
| ObrienDave | *face palms* why do people encrypt the home folder? just set up an encrypted sub-folder later. SMH | 20:17 |
| xubuntu46w | is not a valid LUKS device. | 20:18 |
| xubuntu46w | 0brienDave now i learned that | 20:19 |
| xubuntu46w | ^^, | 20:19 |
| Snake1130 | Yes I was under the impression you encrypted the entire drive not just the home folder. So the step I provided aren't going to work | 20:19 |
| xubuntu46w | this is too bad? D: | 20:20 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, btw. if you only use 1 partition for linux and one for swap you may use the automatic partitioning | 20:20 |
| jeepon | mrkramps: I'll look it up, any pointers? | 20:21 |
| ObrienDave | people, encrypted drives/partitions are just ONE BIG FILE. if any part gets corrupted, you lose the ENTIRE DRIVE. sheesh | 20:21 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, as said "use entire disk" or manually add the EFI Parition in the installer or gparted | 20:21 |
| jeepon | Honestly, I wasn't sure I could trust the installer to leave the rest of the disks alone :) | 20:22 |
| xubuntu46w | any sugestion to a better encrypting, 0brienDave ? | 20:22 |
| ObrienDave | xubuntu46w, only encrypt what you need to. a file, a folder, whatever. not the WHOLE drive | 20:22 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, which rest? | 20:22 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, or do you want to have an additional data partition on this usb drive? | 20:23 |
| xubuntu46w | but the option said only home folder. I have no ideia how it was the whole device | 20:24 |
| jeepon | I've got 2 main drives in the laptop, I wanted to install to the usb drive only | 20:24 |
| Snake1130 | xubuntu46w: Have you tried opening gparted and see what partitions you have? | 20:25 |
| ObrienDave | xubuntu46w, it is just the home folder, but it turns that folder into one file | 20:25 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, if you "use entire disk" and select the usb drive the installer will of course just use this device | 20:25 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, but i can absolutely understand your worries ^^ | 20:25 |
| ObrienDave | xubuntu46w, try using VeraCrypt. based on TrueCrypt which is not maintained anymore | 20:25 |
| xubuntu46w | Snake1130 it says that my partition is unallocated | 20:26 |
| jeepon | Hehe, yeah I've been burned before | 20:26 |
| ObrienDave | we all have :) | 20:26 |
| jeepon | one time i clicked the 'minus' key thinking it was related to resizing a partition... I was wrong >.< | 20:27 |
| Snake1130 | xubuntu46w: So you have the windows partition then this unallocated space? | 20:27 |
| xubuntu46w | yes | 20:27 |
| Snake1130 | I'm going to guess that your xubuntu install is gone | 20:27 |
| jeepon | mrkramps: so going your way, will the installer keep the boot loader on the same device as well? | 20:28 |
| xubuntu46w | if I remove my Windows partition, it will boot xubuntu ? | 20:28 |
| lanodan | yes | 20:28 |
| Snake1130 | xubuntu46x: Even if it entire drive was encrypted it would still show a ext4 partition | 20:28 |
| Snake1130 | Least I think it does. ObrienDave might know. | 20:29 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, good question … afaik the installer will again ask for target device | 20:30 |
| xubuntu46w | i'll try to do that | 20:30 |
| xubuntu46w | 0brienDave, if I remove my Windows partition, it will boot Xubuntu ? | 20:31 |
| scodal | the heck what kind of hardware are you using? | 20:31 |
| scodal | I did win xp first, then xubuntu and it was fine | 20:31 |
| ObrienDave | Snake1130, i think you're correct or with a LUKS sub-partiton | 20:31 |
| xubuntu46w | it shows my swap partition | 20:32 |
| mrkramps | jeepon, in case of doubt, maybe a good day for a backup =P | 20:32 |
| ObrienDave | xubuntu46w, only if you don't mess up the bootloader | 20:32 |
| jeepon | Alright, I'll give it a go then! | 20:32 |
| jeepon | i got a spare machine I can mess around with | 20:32 |
| scodal | Are you using a critical system? I do everything on experimental systems where it's not critical if I get it right or not | 20:33 |
| scodal | Ah ok | 20:33 |
| scodal | And would you be going 64 or 32 bit? | 20:33 |
| xubuntu46w | well, can I just delete my Windows partition with a live CD ? | 20:33 |
| xubuntu46w | scodal, are you talking to me ? | 20:33 |
| scodal | Yes | 20:33 |
| xubuntu46w | 32 bits | 20:33 |
| scodal | I like problem solving | 20:33 |
| scodal | Nice, okay 32 bits I'm good at | 20:34 |
| xubuntu46w | haha | 20:34 |
| jeepon | Thanks for all the help :D | 20:34 |
| scodal | If you delete your Windows partition from the Windows Live CD it will be totally inaccessible, if that's your goal | 20:34 |
| ObrienDave | xubuntu46w, now days, windows has 3 partitions, recovery, boot and OS. the MBR is separate and you should, SHOULD, be able to delete windows partitions, i repete, should | 20:34 |
| scodal | sorry from a Linux Live CD | 20:34 |
| scodal | does? | 20:35 |
| scodal | I've seen 2 from windows? not seen the third you speak of | 20:35 |
| xubuntu46w | Yeah, I only 2 | 20:35 |
| scodal | It has the boot partition, 100mb usually, unless windows 10, then I think it's 1gb now | 20:35 |
| ObrienDave | recovery partition is hidden :) | 20:35 |
| scodal | not hidden real well, but yes hidden lol | 20:35 |
| scodal | hidden from windows.. | 20:35 |
| xubuntu46w | hahaha | 20:35 |
| ObrienDave | not hidden from gparted ;P | 20:36 |
| scodal | perfect haha | 20:36 |
| scodal | I love how linux doesn't care about Windows and just breaks it's rules | 20:36 |
| ObrienDave | windows does not care about it's own rules. LOL | 20:36 |
| scodal | lmaooo | 20:36 |
| xubuntu46w | well, I can see a 100mb partition, my 300gb windows "normal" partition, a 96gb partition what it was suppose to be Xubuntu | 20:36 |
| xubuntu46w | and a 4gb swap | 20:36 |
| scodal | ah not bad | 20:37 |
| scodal | Shit I forget how I did this laptop | 20:37 |
| ObrienDave | then you have no windows recovery partition | 20:37 |
| scodal | If I remember correctly when installing windows I purposely split my hard drive in half | 20:37 |
| scodal | because I knew I wanted to put linux in the other half | 20:37 |
| scodal | That would explain why my boot loader by default is not linux asking if I want to boot xubuntu or Windows | 20:38 |
| scodal | now* | 20:38 |
| xubuntu46w | GRUB saves lifes xD | 20:38 |
| scodal | it does | 20:38 |
| scodal | I'm not even sure if Grub is what I use | 20:38 |
| scodal | whatever I'm using is far different looking than GRUB I used years ago | 20:39 |
| ObrienDave | i have 1.5TB lappy drive. 500M windows, 1TB Xubuntu ;P | 20:39 |
| scodal | dang | 20:39 |
| scodal | I would flip it around | 20:39 |
| ObrienDave | no on YOUR life LOL | 20:39 |
| scodal | linux software uses less hard drive space than windows for some reason | 20:39 |
| ObrienDave | windows = bloatware LOL | 20:39 |
| scodal | You will take your whole LIFE to fill that 1tb of linux with software lol | 20:39 |
| xubuntu46w | hahaha | 20:39 |
| ObrienDave | movies ;P | 20:40 |
| scodal | Yeah lol exactly give mr bloatware the space imho | 20:40 |
| mrkramps | well 1000GB of linux software … a challenge | 20:40 |
| scodal | he's a necessary evil | 20:40 |
| xubuntu46w | that moment when you forget your problem and makes some friends | 20:40 |
| xubuntu46w | lol | 20:40 |
| scodal | movies are for external hard drives lol | 20:40 |
| ObrienDave | that too ;P | 20:40 |
| xubuntu46w | so, what i suppose to do ? | 20:41 |
| scodal | i have to be social tomorrow for a birthday, it's going to hurt :( | 20:41 |
| xubuntu46w | delete my windows partition and left the 100mb partition ? | 20:41 |
| xubuntu46w | scodal is training with us haha | 20:41 |
| mrkramps | the 100mb partition might be a EFI parition | 20:41 |
| ObrienDave | agrees | 20:41 |
| scodal | If you are in a situation to reinstall windows, I would put the win disc back in, partition out what you need for Windows ahead of time | 20:42 |
| ObrienDave | you delete that and windows will never work | 20:42 |
| scodal | right no it won't | 20:42 |
| ObrienDave | yup, install windows first and then xubuntu | 20:42 |
| mrkramps | xubuntu46w, is there something you really _need_ windows for? | 20:42 |
| xubuntu46w | i dont care about Windows, i just care about my xubuntu parition xD | 20:42 |
| mrkramps | gaming or such? | 20:43 |
| xubuntu46w | work :'( | 20:43 |
| Snake1130 | If your windows install is working... you can just install ubuntu in the blank space | 20:43 |
| scodal | I like having windows installed with certain apps just in case I need to wine them | 20:43 |
| scodal | that's it | 20:43 |
| xubuntu46w | but i cant reinstall everything, i need to access the xubuntu'a partition | 20:43 |
| xubuntu46w | xubuntu's | 20:43 |
| scodal | oh you're in a less needy situation than me by far | 20:43 |
| ObrienDave | i have CAD/CAM software i must have windows for. | 20:43 |
| scodal | it sounds like your linux boot loader isn't working right | 20:44 |
| xubuntu46w | yeah | 20:44 |
| ObrienDave | update grub? | 20:44 |
| xubuntu46w | i already try that, | 20:44 |
| xubuntu46w | and use boot-repair too | 20:44 |
| xubuntu46w | it says "its fine, you can reboot now" | 20:45 |
| scodal | you are trying to dual win 7x86 and xbuntux86? | 20:45 |
| mrkramps | xubuntu46w, can you provide any information about this partition? | 20:45 |
| xubuntu46w | but wont boot linux | 20:45 |
| ObrienDave | boot-repair can't fix LUKS | 20:45 |
| xubuntu46w | cryptsetup says it isnt luks | 20:45 |
| xubuntu46w | yes scodal | 20:45 |
| xubuntu46w | what partition, mrkramps ? | 20:45 |
| xubuntu46w | which* | 20:45 |
| ObrienDave | xubuntu | 20:45 |
| xubuntu46w | well, i installed at this morning.. It is 32bits | 20:46 |
| scodal | this is why I am unfamiliar, win xp 32 does not use more than 1 partition | 20:46 |
| flocculant | xubuntu46w: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory | 20:47 |
| xubuntu46w | nops, sorry, xubuntu is 64bits | 20:47 |
| scodal | oh | 20:47 |
| scodal | that stupid boot partition | 20:47 |
| scodal | win 7 does | 20:47 |
| scodal | yall have exceeded my pay grade, I haven't experimented with these specifics. I apologize | 20:48 |
| scodal | So you are using a 64 bit processor, dual booting win 7 64-bit and Xubuntu 64-bit? | 20:49 |
| xubuntu46w | nop, i use win 7 32bit and xubuntu 64bit | 20:50 |
| flocculant | I think that at the moment - that stuff isn't really needed | 20:50 |
| xubuntu46w | dont ask me why because i dont know either | 20:50 |
| Snake1130 | 64 bit or 32bit it really doesn't matter | 20:50 |
| flocculant | what xubuntu46w should be trying to do is access the encrypted stuff and backing it up - then worry about booting, because at that point a reinstall is 20 minutes away | 20:50 |
| xubuntu46w | yeah! im just trying to access that | 20:51 |
| flocculant | so check out that link :) | 20:51 |
| flocculant | see how that works - worry about one thing at a time | 20:52 |
| xubuntu46w | im reading it | 20:52 |
| scodal | Kind of matters, choosing the right Distro of Win and Linux for the processor in the machine | 20:52 |
| flocculant | mrkramps is right about the odd /boot partition you're going to be needing - ext2 by default | 20:52 |
| scodal | but I digress, we covered it :) | 20:52 |
| mrkramps | flocculant, ext2?! always thought fat | 20:52 |
| Comstock | no fat shaming please | 20:53 |
| flocculant | pretty sure ext2 when you encrypt during install from live - and it's not big enough for people who don't keep an eye on kernels installed either | 20:53 |
| scodal | fat is good for you, I drink extra virgin olive oil daily | 20:53 |
| mrkramps | flocculant, howtos always mention a minimum 100MB fat32 parition, but may differ for encrxyption of course | 20:54 |
| knome | let's keep the discussion on-topic please, #xubuntu-offtopic is our general chatter channel | 20:54 |
| xubuntu46w | sudo mount -o remount,ro | 20:57 |
| xubuntu46w | /dev/sda3 mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab | 20:57 |
| xubuntu46w | :'( | 20:57 |
| flocculant | so when you installed windows after you installed xubuntu are you sure you didn't let it use the whole drive? | 21:00 |
| xubuntu46w | yes | 21:01 |
| xubuntu46w | well i'll try to remove windows and boot my machine | 21:01 |
| xubuntu46w | lets see what will do.. | 21:01 |
| flocculant | that won't do anything afaik - you removed the bootloader when you installed windows | 21:01 |
| scodal | I am a noob on these chats I know but I swear it's a conflict of 32 to 64 | 21:01 |
| scodal | Actually I think about it that doesn't make sense | 21:02 |
| xubuntu46w | well it needs to boot something | 21:02 |
| scodal | True that | 21:02 |
| knome | scodal, filesystems have nothing to do with architectures, so no. | 21:02 |
| xubuntu46w | well... be right back | 21:03 |
| xubuntu46w | bye, thank you guys | 21:03 |
| flocculant | xubuntu46w: run sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit from livecd | 21:03 |
| scodal | ok come back! | 21:03 |
| xubuntu46w | Unable to read from: from | 21:04 |
| xubuntu46w | haha forget it | 21:04 |
| xubuntu46w | we will see now | 21:04 |
| xubuntu46w | bye | 21:04 |
| scodal | I'm presume you did much google searches lol | 21:04 |
| scodal | I'm only this far thanks to research, not irc | 21:04 |
| scodal | I betchu xp to 7 is a different beat thanks to that new partition Microsoft introduces | 21:25 |
| scodal | I'm just saaaaaaaaaaying | 21:25 |
| scodal | My laptop ix win xp / xubuntu and it's happy slappy pappy | 21:25 |
| knome | scodal, and how is that on-topic for a xubuntu support channel? | 21:25 |
| knome | scodal, please keep the chatter at #xubuntu-offtopic | 21:25 |
| scodal | This is on topic because both x86 and x84 versions of xubuntu are supplied on the official website | 21:26 |
| scodal | x64* | 21:26 |
| scodal | I said that a little wrong I knew what I meant but I did not execute well. Apologies | 21:32 |
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