[03:05] <Johnny--> hey guys, does anyone know how to get to the sound settings, besides clicking on the volume icon in the panel?
[03:06] <xubuntu34w> hi, please i need install interface gnome in my xubuntu
[03:06] <holstein> xubuntu34w: sure. use the package manager of your choice, to search for, and install what you like
[03:07] <Unit193> Johnny--: Menu → Multimedia
[03:07] <Unit193> gnome-shell, or flashback, or whatever it is.
[03:07] <xubuntu34w> only gnome-shell or gnome3?
[03:07] <holstein> xubuntu34w: it'll look a lot like this to convert to it http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 but you may want less
[03:08] <holstein> as in, you may want to be able to keep xubuntu/xfce and just add gnome.. not ubuntu-gnome
[03:10] <Johnny--> Unit193: thanks, the main problem is this:  Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom
[03:10] <Johnny--> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953
[03:11] <Johnny--> Unit193:  do u have that same problem? wifi menu is short
[03:11] <xubuntu34w> but the command for install gnome in xubuntu is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or sudo apt-get install gnome3
[03:12] <Unit193> Though I can't say I know what you're talking about precisely, I'd say no I do not have this problem, Johnny--.
[03:12] <xangua> Gnome-shell for a minimalistic approach
[03:13] <Johnny--> i temporarily uninstalled, like that link^ said:  xfce4-indicator-plugin indicator-application.  which fixed the short wifi menu.. but now other stuff if missing like volume control LOL
[03:14] <Johnny--> xubuntu34w:  is there anyway to get "aero-snap" in GNOME classic/fallback?
[03:15] <Johnny--> Unit193: what do these 2 progams do? (what will imiss out on anything besides the volume control)  xfce4-indicator-plugin indicator-application
[03:16] <Unit193> They provide xfce4-panel with access to applications' indicators, rather than tray icons.
[03:22] <Johnny--> Unit193: thanks.  okay, i reinstalled the  xfce4-indicator-plugin. i'll reboot. BRB
[03:24] <xangua> Why reboot? This ain't Windows
[03:24] <xubuntu34w> the command gnome3 is fail, only gnome-shell operated
[03:25] <Unit193> xfce4-panel -r  if nothing else.
[03:25] <Unit193> !info gnome3
[03:26] <xubuntu34w> ok thanks for all bye
[03:34] <Johnny--> Unit193: Okay, now it works! (no more scrunched down wifi-menu)  All i did was uninstall + reinstall + reboot: indicator-application-gtk2   indicator-application   indicator-application
[03:34] <Unit193> Johnny--: indicator-application-gtk2, what version of Xubuntu is this??
[03:35] <Johnny--> maybe u dont even have to do all 3.   U guys can add that to the solution bug.launchpad, if u have a login/password (i dont):  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953
[03:35] <Johnny--> Unit193: i'm using Linux Mint Xfce 17.2
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !mint | Johnny--,
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Johnny--, ask the mint folk for support of their product.  it's not ubuntu = it's not supported here.
[03:38] <Johnny--> sorry, unit helped me here, i thought we all XFCE family   :)
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Johnny--, #xfce would agree with that statement
[03:39] <Unit193> Well, to some extent, but we/Xubuntu can't know what Mint has changed, so can't really support it.
[03:45] <Johnny--> i do use xubuntu 14.04 also, and i do have the same problem, it is squished but not as much (makes u scroll thru it, instead of displaying all the wifi stuff at once
[03:47] <Johnny--> my 2nd computer has xubuntu 14.04.2.
[03:49] <Johnny--> so i'll my uninstall/ reinstall to see if that works on xubuntu
[03:59] <Johnny--> Okay, it works for xubuntu 14.04.2  also!  Even more streamlined solution:
[04:00] <Johnny--> Uninstall + Reinstall:    indicator-application    Then, just log-off + Log-in.
[04:02] <Johnny--> so now, no more squished-down WiFi menu !!  i'm happy now, if i u have login info, please add that simple solution to:     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953
[04:04] <Johnny--> xangua:   is there anyway to get "aero-snap" in GNOME classic/fallback?
[04:19] <Johnny--> Hey does anyone here know of a theme like clearlooks-phenix-theme, but with squared-off edges for GTK3?  or how do u square them off, urself?
[04:19] <Johnny--> or of theme like Numix, but with high contrast colors (i.e. black font, not grey)
[04:20] <Johnny--> i finally found exactly that, but it is GTK2-only.  Is there any way to get a similar theme to this in GTK3?   http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=109494
[06:00] <parsnip> hi, is alt-right-click resize windows set in xfce?
[06:00] <parsnip> *xubuntu
[06:02] <Comstock> yes it works
[06:02] <parsnip> Comstock: me? what i meant is, is the setting created in xubuntu, or how can i change it to something like ctrl+alt+right-click drag?
[06:03] <parsnip> i don't know if it's at xorg level, xfce, ubuntu, debian, ...
[06:03] <Comstock> that i do not know, sorry
[06:04] <parsnip> thanks though
[17:08] <Executioner`> "libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev:i386 is already the newest version."
[17:09] <Executioner`> "configure: gstreamer-0.10 base plugins 32-bit development files not found, gstreamer support disabled"
[17:09] <Executioner`> what
[17:56] <scodal> What's up fellow xubunters?
[18:13] <scodal> Hmm was frustrated trying to connect to facebook chat so just opened Trillian with Wine and that seems to work fine
[18:14] <scodal> Pidgin wasn't connect, forgot to note that
[18:15] <mrkramps> scodal, probably plugin is missing or not up-to-date
[18:15] <scodal> I read about perhaps needing a plugin
[18:16] <scodal> But doesn't it just connect through XMPP?
[18:16] <scodal> or did FB make some changes to their chat system
[18:16] <mrkramps> fb chat is _based_ on the XMPP protocol
[18:16] <scodal> ah gotcha
[18:16] <mrkramps> but you require an additional plugin to address the changes FB made
[18:17] <scodal> This makes sense, okay so I was kinda right lol
[18:17] <mrkramps> relevant changes to plugin git repository … 2 days ago
[18:17] <scodal> geesh, well drunk trillian on wine will do for now
[18:17] <scodal> I have other things I need to tackle first, but thanks for letting me know the right direction to go
[18:17] <mrkramps> you're welcome
[18:21] <scodal> I'm a web developer, php, html, css etc.. what's everyones favorite code editor? I'd like to try a few out on xu
[18:22] <mrkramps> scodal, there are quite some text editors available
[18:22] <mrkramps> even xubuntu's default editor mousepad knows about syntaxhighlighting and stuff btw.
[18:23] <scodal> do I have to enable syntax highlighting?
[18:23] <scodal> I just made a file on my desktop called file.php and all the text within is still just black on white
[18:23] <mrkramps> scodal,  in terms of activating a color scheme
[18:24] <mrkramps> view - color scheme
[18:24] <scodal> I tried some color schemes, just looks like terminal
[18:24] <mrkramps> then you need to choose a file type
[18:25] <mrkramps> mousepad recognizes file types by mime type for syntax highlighting … or by selecting file type manually
[18:25] <scodal> Oh dang that did it
[18:25] <scodal> Convenient
[18:25] <scodal> Does mousepad support plugins
[18:25] <scodal> ?
[18:25] <mrkramps> no
[18:26] <scodal> Oblivion works for me theme. Alright cool Mousepad makes a great quick editor then
[18:26] <scodal> I ask because I use Sublime on Yosemite and Windows and it has an FTP plugin to sync with your work and up/download
[18:26] <scodal> That's ideally what I'm after
[18:27] <mrkramps> scodal, sublime should run on linux as well
[18:27] <scodal> how silly of me, I'm just noticing this on their website. it's a .deb file, that will be okay?
[18:27] <mrkramps> absolutely
[18:27] <mrkramps> actually their screenshots on the webpage are made with ubuntu ^^
[18:27] <scodal> oh really? i just got the tar.bz2
[18:28] <scodal> oh bad assery
[18:28] <scodal> what u recommend? the tar.bz2 or the .deb installation?
[18:28] <mrkramps> in general deb is easier
[18:28] <scodal> that's what i figured
[18:28] <mrkramps> but it depends what's in the tar.bz2
[18:28] <scodal> i kinda like the tar.bz2 cause when it errors i find out things my system could use to support more things in the future lol
[18:30] <mrkramps> you can also use the tar.bz2 in this case
[18:30] <mrkramps> sublime comes with a pre-compiled binary and can be started directly from the uncompressed directory
[18:30] <scodal> in the .deb?
[18:31] <mrkramps> also in the deb with is just a different style of compress archive but known by the package manager
[18:31] <mrkramps> --with ++which
[18:31] <scodal> ah gotcha
[18:31] <scodal> it's been a while since i put linux on my system for full time use
[18:31] <scodal> my last experience was before redhat became fedora, and i ran KDE
[18:32] <scodal> so now i'm xubuntu xfce like :O
[18:32] <scodal> well not entirely true i've played with a few other distributions but something about xubuntu speaks to me
[18:33] <mrkramps> btw. an interesting - and free - alternative to sublime might be geany
[18:33] <scodal> did not expect that suggestion, thought you were about to say Atom, alright checking out geany now
[18:33] <Snake1130> I really enjoy using Geany over sublime
[18:34] <mrkramps> atom is still quite beta, but it is good to keep an enye on it
[18:35] <mrkramps> Snake1130, i do not know much about sublime, but are there any advantages from using geany instead? i am just curious
[18:36] <scodal> I have it on my Windows computer, I used it for about a week before deciding Sublime looks the same and runs faster. Atom likes RAM
[18:37] <scodal> is Snake1130 also a web developer?
[18:38] <scodal> oh I like .deb files, I just read you should -I to check dependencies, then apt-get install to retrieve, then -i to install
[18:38] <Snake1130> I think it was the price difference. I would try out Geany and see what you think. Everyone is different
[18:38] <scodal> and just like that, Sublime works on my computer
[18:39] <scodal> I have a license for Sublime, but yes, $ is a deterrent
[18:40] <Snake1130> Geany did everything I needed out of an editor but like I said, everyone is different.
[18:40] <scodal> Right, yeah editors one of the biggest debates on line of all time lol
[18:40] <scodal> Where I work we get in fights about it
[18:41] <mrkramps> scodal, i guess that's the reason why there are so many different editors nowadays
[18:41] <mrkramps> ^^
[18:41] <scodal> to draw blood in fights at work
[18:42] <scodal> I'm just glad everyone quit using Dreamweaver, it's so clunky
[18:43] <scodal> You runnin 32 or 64bit?
[18:45] <mrkramps> scodal, because of dependencies i would recommend using the deb for your system's architecture
[18:45] <mrkramps> although i do not know if subline has any dependencies at all
[18:45] <scodal> right right, that was glorious, compared to reading a bunch of error messages looking for something to google
[18:46] <scodal> it said negative on dependencies. i'm up and running licensed version of sublime already, with my SFTP plugin installed and also licensed
[18:46] <scodal> happy scodal right here
[18:47] <scodal> shoot, on windows I know the name of monospace fonts off the top of my head, what are good monospace fonts on linux?
[18:47] <scodal> I shall google..
[18:52] <scodal> Mmmm Inconsolata is hot
[18:57] <Snake1130> looks good
[19:02] <mrkramps> scodal, you may also try Terminus
[19:03] <mrkramps> it's a matter of taste - no question - but at least for me it works pretty nice for plain text (and irc)
[19:04] <scodal> I liked Terminus too, I have settled on Inconsolata though.. for now
[19:06] <scodal> So my two next big experiment/tackles are: dual screen & windows network shares
[19:06] <scodal> Any thoughts before I start getting my hands dirty?
[19:06] <mrkramps> scodal, dual screen depends a lot on your use case
[19:06] <mrkramps> and windows share on if you're want to connect or host them
[19:09] <scodal> connect to
[19:09] <scodal> for now
[19:09] <mrkramps> that's easy as xfce's file manager (thunar) supports samba shares via gvfs
[19:10] <mrkramps> try url 'smb://WORKGROUP;USER@IP/SHARE'
[19:10] <scodal> nice! samba, ah yes I remember this. I map network drives like a mad man. Is that also possible in xfce?
[19:10] <scodal> ok just a sec
[19:11] <mrkramps> alternatively use gigolo to manage your connections
[19:11] <scodal> smb://1;USER@GAMING/f$
[19:12] <scodal> does it work like that? Yes my workgroup is 1, to avoid capitalization confusion
[19:12] <scodal> my username is User
[19:12] <scodal> can I use network names or do I have to specify the local IP?
[19:12] <mrkramps> network names work
[19:12] <scodal> where do I paste that? I tried the "Run" box and Firefox address bar lol
[19:13] <mrkramps> scodal, in the address/url/path/whatever bar in file manger
[19:13] <Snake1130> in the thunar bar
[19:13] <scodal> thunar! new term to me, ok looking for thunar
[19:13] <mrkramps> scodal, thunar = file manager
[19:13] <scodal> oh that just opens file manager, is that..
[19:13] <scodal> yep ok
[19:13] <scodal> haha
[19:13] <Snake1130> lol yes.
[19:18] <Snake1130> scondal: When you open Thunar I can normally see the network on the left side bar. Lets me browse for the share I'm looking for.
[19:18] <Snake1130> scodal*
[19:18] <scodal> Nice I see this now
[19:18] <scodal> and I connected easily to my network share thank you
[19:18] <scodal> These small things make such a huge difference in how productive I feel on linux
[19:18] <mrkramps> yeah, that should work as well, but sometimes it don't and you the should now about URI solutions
[19:19] <scodal> can you add the password to the smb:// address?
[19:20] <mrkramps> scodal, i don't think so
[19:20] <scodal> chalk that one up as reasons: "security"
[19:20] <mrkramps> but this is where gigolo comes in handy to manage these connections more effectively
[19:21] <scodal> Custom Location?
[19:21] <mrkramps> scodal, windows Share ;)
[19:22] <scodal> shoot, timed out
[19:22] <scodal> asked for password and everything
[19:22] <scodal> Oh windows share lol
[19:22] <scodal> I should try that method
[19:22] <scodal> derp
[19:22] <mrkramps> damn, obviously gigolo as well can't handle passwords
[19:23] <scodal> well in this case, it asks for Server: and Share:
[19:23] <Snake1130> I haven't used Gigolo but it looks like a great way to go.
[19:23] <scodal> do I just put network name + share name?
[19:23] <mrkramps> or prolly you need to have the gnome keyring installed to handle passwords
[19:23] <scodal> gross I hate keyrings lol
[19:23] <scodal> who's idea was that
[19:23] <Snake1130> There is one built into xfce.
[19:24] <scodal> I seent it sneaking up pestering me lol
[19:24] <scodal> reminds me of Yosemite
[19:24] <scodal> well damn how do I access my keyring
[19:24] <scodal> I typed it and no results
[19:25] <scodal> I see when you choose Gigolo windows share, it just writes the same thing, the whole smb:// out
[19:25] <scodal> It's hating my password for no reason
[19:48] <jeepon> Hello
[19:50] <xubuntu46w> hello
[19:50] <xubuntu46w> ?
[19:50] <knome> hello
[19:50] <xubuntu46w> hi, can you help, please ?
[19:50] <knome> ask the question and find out
[19:51] <xubuntu46w> well.. I installed xubuntu and after that I installed Windows
[19:52] <mrkramps> xubuntu46w, wrong order :)
[19:52] <xubuntu46w> but i cant restore grub or use a live cd to do this
[19:52] <xubuntu46w> yeah I know
[19:52] <xubuntu46w> but I needed to make a backup first
[19:52] <xubuntu46w> and now I cant acess xubuntu partition
[19:52] <xubuntu46w> even if I use a live CD
[19:53] <xubuntu46w> Do you know anything that can help me?
[19:55] <mrkramps> xubuntu46w, what do you mean by "cannot access"
[19:55] <mrkramps> does this partition still exist?
[19:55] <xubuntu46w> yes
[19:55] <xubuntu46w> if I use a live cd to see all my devices
[19:55] <xubuntu46w> It wont show xubuntu's partition
[19:56] <mrkramps> it the partition encrypted?
[19:56] <mrkramps> *is
[19:56] <xubuntu46w> yes, this is why i cant acess it ?
[19:57] <mrkramps> have a guess
[19:58] <xubuntu46w> haha
[19:59] <xubuntu46w> I had not really thought about it ..
[20:00] <jeepon> Hey guys, I've got a question as well
[20:00] <xubuntu46w> is there a way to decrypt it ?
[20:00] <xubuntu46w> i know it does, but how ?
[20:00] <xubuntu46w> cryptsetup ?
[20:01] <jeepon> Is it possible to install xubuntu on a usb drive?
[20:01] <ObrienDave> jeepon, yes it is
[20:02] <jeepon> Well it's not working :/
[20:02] <mrkramps> jeepon, elaborate
[20:02] <xubuntu46w> does anyone have an idea about decrypt it ?
[20:03] <jeepon> I put the installer using Unetbootin on one usb drive, booted normally and in the installer chose "something else" to set the partitions manually
[20:05] <jeepon> Split the target usb drive into 2 partitions, 1 Primary ext4 as root and another logical for swap
[20:05] <jeepon> And I chose the device (and later the root partition) for the boot loader
[20:05] <ObrienDave> you need one for /home
[20:05] <knome> ObrienDave, nope.
[20:06] <knome> ObrienDave, /home is optional
[20:06] <xubuntu46w> :/
[20:06] <mrkramps> jeepon, you use the live usb as an installation target?
[20:07] <jeepon> on my laptop, I can't even choose it as a boot option, on another computer I get a "missing operating system" error
[20:07] <jeepon> nope, 2 different usb drives
[20:11] <xubuntu46w> "mount: /dev/sda3 is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[20:14] <mrkramps> jeepon, Lecacy or EFI boot management?
[20:15] <Snake1130> xubuntu46w: do you remember what encryption you used?
[20:15] <jeepon> EFI
[20:16] <xubuntu46w> no, i just clicked on encrypt my home folder option while installing xubuntu
[20:16] <mrkramps> jeepon, prolly grub efi failed because you used the manual partitioning
[20:16] <mrkramps> you need an additional efi parition
[20:16] <mrkramps> at least iirc
[20:17] <Snake1130> xubuntu46w: Check this information out http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[20:17] <ObrienDave> *face palms* why do people encrypt the home folder? just set up an encrypted sub-folder later. SMH
[20:18] <xubuntu46w> is not a valid LUKS device.
[20:19] <xubuntu46w> 0brienDave now i learned that
[20:19] <xubuntu46w> ^^,
[20:19] <Snake1130> Yes I was under the impression you encrypted the entire drive not just the home folder. So the step I provided aren't going to work
[20:20] <xubuntu46w> this is too bad? D:
[20:20] <mrkramps> jeepon, btw. if you only use 1 partition for linux and one for swap you may use the automatic partitioning
[20:21] <jeepon> mrkramps: I'll look it up, any pointers?
[20:21] <ObrienDave> people, encrypted drives/partitions are just ONE BIG FILE. if any part gets corrupted, you lose the ENTIRE DRIVE. sheesh
[20:21] <mrkramps> jeepon, as said "use entire disk" or manually add the EFI Parition in the installer or gparted
[20:22] <jeepon> Honestly, I wasn't sure I could trust the installer to leave the rest of the disks alone :)
[20:22] <xubuntu46w> any sugestion to a better encrypting, 0brienDave ?
[20:22] <ObrienDave> xubuntu46w, only encrypt what you need to. a file, a folder, whatever. not the WHOLE drive
[20:22] <mrkramps> jeepon, which rest?
[20:23] <mrkramps> jeepon, or do you want to have an additional data partition on this usb drive?
[20:24] <xubuntu46w> but the option said only home folder. I have no ideia how it was the whole device
[20:24] <jeepon> I've got 2 main drives in the laptop, I wanted to install to the usb drive only
[20:25] <Snake1130> xubuntu46w: Have you tried opening gparted and see what partitions you have?
[20:25] <ObrienDave> xubuntu46w, it is just the home folder, but it turns that folder into one file
[20:25] <mrkramps> jeepon, if you "use entire disk" and select the usb drive the installer will of course just use this device
[20:25] <mrkramps> jeepon, but i can absolutely understand your worries ^^
[20:25] <ObrienDave> xubuntu46w, try using VeraCrypt. based on TrueCrypt which is not maintained anymore
[20:26] <xubuntu46w> Snake1130  it says that my partition is unallocated
[20:26] <jeepon> Hehe, yeah I've been burned before
[20:26] <ObrienDave> we all have :)
[20:27] <jeepon> one time i clicked the 'minus' key thinking it was related to resizing a partition... I was wrong >.<
[20:27] <Snake1130> xubuntu46w: So you have the windows partition then this unallocated space?
[20:27] <xubuntu46w> yes
[20:27] <Snake1130> I'm going to guess that your xubuntu install is gone
[20:28] <jeepon> mrkramps: so going your way, will the installer keep the boot loader on the same device as well?
[20:28] <xubuntu46w> if I remove my Windows partition, it will boot xubuntu ?
[20:28] <lanodan> yes
[20:28] <Snake1130> xubuntu46x: Even if it entire drive was encrypted it would still show a ext4 partition
[20:29] <Snake1130> Least I think it does. ObrienDave might know.
[20:30] <mrkramps> jeepon, good question … afaik the installer will again ask for target device
[20:30] <xubuntu46w> i'll try to do that
[20:31] <xubuntu46w> 0brienDave, if I remove my Windows partition, it will boot Xubuntu ?
[20:31] <scodal> the heck what kind of hardware are you using?
[20:31] <scodal> I did win xp first, then xubuntu and it was fine
[20:31] <ObrienDave> Snake1130, i think you're correct or with a LUKS sub-partiton
[20:32] <xubuntu46w> it shows my swap partition
[20:32] <mrkramps> jeepon, in case of doubt, maybe a good day for a backup =P
[20:32] <ObrienDave> xubuntu46w, only if you don't mess up the bootloader
[20:32] <jeepon> Alright, I'll give it a go then!
[20:32] <jeepon> i got a spare machine I can mess around with
[20:33] <scodal> Are you using a critical system? I do everything on experimental systems where it's not critical if I get it right or not
[20:33] <scodal> Ah ok
[20:33] <scodal> And would you be going 64 or 32 bit?
[20:33] <xubuntu46w> well, can I just delete my Windows partition with a live CD ?
[20:33] <xubuntu46w> scodal, are you talking to me ?
[20:33] <scodal> Yes
[20:33] <xubuntu46w> 32 bits
[20:33] <scodal> I like problem solving
[20:34] <scodal> Nice, okay 32 bits I'm good at
[20:34] <xubuntu46w> haha
[20:34] <jeepon> Thanks for all the help :D
[20:34] <scodal> If you delete your Windows partition from the Windows Live CD it will be totally inaccessible, if that's your goal
[20:34] <ObrienDave> xubuntu46w, now days, windows has 3 partitions, recovery, boot and OS. the MBR is separate and you should, SHOULD, be able to delete windows partitions, i repete, should
[20:34] <scodal> sorry from a Linux Live CD
[20:35] <scodal> does?
[20:35] <scodal> I've seen 2 from windows? not seen the third you speak of
[20:35] <xubuntu46w> Yeah, I only 2
[20:35] <scodal> It has the boot partition, 100mb usually, unless windows 10, then I think it's 1gb now
[20:35] <ObrienDave> recovery partition is hidden :)
[20:35] <scodal> not hidden real well, but yes hidden lol
[20:35] <scodal> hidden from windows..
[20:35] <xubuntu46w> hahaha
[20:36] <ObrienDave> not hidden from gparted ;P
[20:36] <scodal> perfect haha
[20:36] <scodal> I love how linux doesn't care about Windows and just breaks it's rules
[20:36] <ObrienDave> windows does not care about it's own rules. LOL
[20:36] <scodal> lmaooo
[20:36] <xubuntu46w> well, I can see a 100mb partition, my  300gb windows "normal" partition, a 96gb partition what it was suppose to be Xubuntu
[20:36] <xubuntu46w> and a 4gb swap
[20:37] <scodal> ah not bad
[20:37] <scodal> Shit I forget how I did this laptop
[20:37] <ObrienDave> then you have no windows recovery partition
[20:37] <scodal> If I remember correctly when installing windows I purposely split my hard drive in half
[20:37] <scodal> because I knew I wanted to put linux in the other half
[20:38] <scodal> That would explain why my boot loader  by default is not linux asking if I want to boot xubuntu or Windows
[20:38] <scodal> now*
[20:38] <xubuntu46w> GRUB saves lifes xD
[20:38] <scodal> it does
[20:38] <scodal> I'm not even sure if Grub is what I use
[20:39] <scodal> whatever I'm using is far different looking than GRUB I used years ago
[20:39] <ObrienDave> i have 1.5TB lappy drive. 500M windows, 1TB Xubuntu ;P
[20:39] <scodal> dang
[20:39] <scodal> I would flip it around
[20:39] <ObrienDave> no on YOUR life LOL
[20:39] <scodal> linux software uses less hard drive space than windows for some reason
[20:39] <ObrienDave> windows = bloatware LOL
[20:39] <scodal> You will take your whole LIFE to fill that 1tb of linux with software lol
[20:39] <xubuntu46w> hahaha
[20:40] <ObrienDave> movies ;P
[20:40] <scodal> Yeah lol exactly give mr bloatware the space imho
[20:40] <mrkramps> well 1000GB of linux software … a challenge
[20:40] <scodal> he's a necessary evil
[20:40] <xubuntu46w> that moment when you forget your problem and makes some friends
[20:40] <xubuntu46w> lol
[20:40] <scodal> movies are for external hard drives lol
[20:40] <ObrienDave> that too ;P
[20:41] <xubuntu46w> so, what i suppose to do ?
[20:41] <scodal> i have to be social tomorrow for a birthday, it's going to hurt :(
[20:41] <xubuntu46w> delete my windows partition and left the 100mb partition ?
[20:41] <xubuntu46w> scodal is training with us haha
[20:41] <mrkramps> the 100mb partition might be a EFI parition
[20:41] <ObrienDave> agrees
[20:42] <scodal> If you are in a situation to reinstall windows, I would put the win disc back in, partition out what you need for Windows ahead of time
[20:42] <ObrienDave> you delete that and windows will never work
[20:42] <scodal> right no it won't
[20:42] <ObrienDave> yup, install windows first and then xubuntu
[20:42] <mrkramps> xubuntu46w, is there something you really _need_ windows for?
[20:42] <xubuntu46w> i dont care about Windows, i just care about my xubuntu parition xD
[20:43] <mrkramps> gaming or such?
[20:43] <xubuntu46w> work :'(
[20:43] <Snake1130> If your windows install is working... you can just install ubuntu in the blank space
[20:43] <scodal> I like having windows installed with certain apps just in case I need to wine them
[20:43] <scodal> that's it
[20:43] <xubuntu46w> but i cant reinstall everything, i need to access the xubuntu'a partition
[20:43] <xubuntu46w> xubuntu's
[20:43] <scodal> oh you're in a less needy situation than me by far
[20:43] <ObrienDave> i have CAD/CAM software i must have windows for.
[20:44] <scodal> it sounds like your linux boot loader isn't working right
[20:44] <xubuntu46w>  yeah
[20:44] <ObrienDave> update grub?
[20:44] <xubuntu46w> i already try that,
[20:44] <xubuntu46w> and use boot-repair too
[20:45] <xubuntu46w> it says "its fine, you can reboot now"
[20:45] <scodal> you are trying to dual win 7x86 and xbuntux86?
[20:45] <mrkramps> xubuntu46w, can you provide any information about this partition?
[20:45] <xubuntu46w> but wont boot linux
[20:45] <ObrienDave> boot-repair can't fix LUKS
[20:45] <xubuntu46w> cryptsetup says it isnt luks
[20:45] <xubuntu46w> yes scodal
[20:45] <xubuntu46w> what partition, mrkramps ?
[20:45] <xubuntu46w> which*
[20:45] <ObrienDave> xubuntu
[20:46] <xubuntu46w> well, i installed at this morning.. It is 32bits
[20:46] <scodal> this is why I am unfamiliar, win xp 32 does not use more than 1 partition
[20:47] <flocculant> xubuntu46w: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[20:47] <xubuntu46w> nops, sorry, xubuntu is 64bits
[20:47] <scodal> oh
[20:47] <scodal> that stupid boot partition
[20:47] <scodal> win 7 does
[20:48] <scodal> yall have exceeded my pay grade, I haven't experimented with these specifics. I apologize
[20:49] <scodal> So you are using a 64 bit processor, dual booting win 7 64-bit and Xubuntu 64-bit?
[20:50] <xubuntu46w> nop, i use win 7 32bit and xubuntu 64bit
[20:50] <flocculant> I think that at the moment - that stuff isn't really needed
[20:50] <xubuntu46w> dont ask me why because i dont know either
[20:50] <Snake1130> 64 bit or 32bit it really doesn't matter
[20:50] <flocculant> what xubuntu46w should be trying to do is access the encrypted stuff and backing it up - then worry about booting, because at that point a reinstall is 20 minutes away
[20:51] <xubuntu46w> yeah! im just trying to access that
[20:51] <flocculant> so check out that link :)
[20:52] <flocculant> see how that works - worry about one thing at a time
[20:52] <xubuntu46w> im reading it
[20:52] <scodal> Kind of matters, choosing the right Distro of Win and Linux for the processor in the machine
[20:52] <flocculant> mrkramps is right about the odd /boot partition you're going to be needing - ext2 by default
[20:52] <scodal> but I digress, we covered it :)
[20:52] <mrkramps> flocculant, ext2?! always thought fat
[20:53] <Comstock> no fat shaming please
[20:53] <flocculant> pretty sure ext2 when you encrypt during install from live - and it's not big enough for people who don't keep an eye on kernels installed either
[20:53] <scodal> fat is good for you, I drink extra virgin olive oil daily
[20:54] <mrkramps> flocculant, howtos always mention a minimum 100MB  fat32 parition, but may differ for encrxyption of course
[20:54] <knome> let's keep the discussion on-topic please, #xubuntu-offtopic is our general chatter channel
[20:57] <xubuntu46w> sudo mount -o remount,ro
[20:57] <xubuntu46w>  /dev/sda3 mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab
[20:57] <xubuntu46w> :'(
[21:00] <flocculant> so when you installed windows after you installed xubuntu are you sure you didn't let it use the whole drive?
[21:01] <xubuntu46w> yes
[21:01] <xubuntu46w> well i'll try to remove windows and boot my machine
[21:01] <xubuntu46w> lets see what will do..
[21:01] <flocculant> that won't do anything afaik - you removed the bootloader when you installed windows
[21:01] <scodal> I am a noob on these chats I know but I swear it's a conflict of 32 to 64
[21:02] <scodal> Actually I think about it that doesn't make sense
[21:02] <xubuntu46w> well it needs to boot something
[21:02] <scodal> True that
[21:02] <knome> scodal, filesystems have nothing to do with architectures, so no.
[21:03] <xubuntu46w> well... be right back
[21:03] <xubuntu46w> bye, thank you guys
[21:03] <flocculant> xubuntu46w: run sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit from livecd
[21:03] <scodal> ok come back!
[21:04] <xubuntu46w> Unable to read from: from
[21:04] <xubuntu46w> haha forget it
[21:04] <xubuntu46w> we will see now
[21:04] <xubuntu46w> bye
[21:04] <scodal> I'm presume you did much google searches lol
[21:04] <scodal> I'm only this far thanks to research, not irc
[21:25] <scodal> I betchu xp to 7 is a different beat thanks to that new partition Microsoft introduces
[21:25] <scodal> I'm just saaaaaaaaaaying
[21:25] <scodal> My laptop ix win xp / xubuntu and it's happy slappy pappy
[21:25] <knome> scodal, and how is that on-topic for a xubuntu support channel?
[21:25] <knome> scodal, please keep the chatter at #xubuntu-offtopic
[21:26] <scodal> This is on topic because both x86 and x84 versions of xubuntu are supplied on the official website
[21:26] <scodal> x64*
[21:32] <scodal> I said that a little wrong I knew what I meant but I did not execute well. Apologies