=== Finetunrda_ is now known as Finetundra [03:05] hey guys, does anyone know how to get to the sound settings, besides clicking on the volume icon in the panel? [03:06] hi, please i need install interface gnome in my xubuntu [03:06] xubuntu34w: sure. use the package manager of your choice, to search for, and install what you like [03:07] Johnny--: Menu → Multimedia [03:07] gnome-shell, or flashback, or whatever it is. [03:07] only gnome-shell or gnome3? [03:07] xubuntu34w: it'll look a lot like this to convert to it http://askubuntu.com/questions/614657/install-gnome-desktop-ubuntu-15-04 but you may want less [03:08] as in, you may want to be able to keep xubuntu/xfce and just add gnome.. not ubuntu-gnome [03:10] Unit193: thanks, the main problem is this: Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom [03:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953 [03:10] Launchpad bug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] [03:11] Unit193: do u have that same problem? wifi menu is short [03:11] but the command for install gnome in xubuntu is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or sudo apt-get install gnome3 [03:12] Though I can't say I know what you're talking about precisely, I'd say no I do not have this problem, Johnny--. [03:12] Gnome-shell for a minimalistic approach [03:13] i temporarily uninstalled, like that link^ said: xfce4-indicator-plugin indicator-application. which fixed the short wifi menu.. but now other stuff if missing like volume control LOL [03:14] xubuntu34w: is there anyway to get "aero-snap" in GNOME classic/fallback? [03:15] Unit193: what do these 2 progams do? (what will imiss out on anything besides the volume control) xfce4-indicator-plugin indicator-application [03:16] They provide xfce4-panel with access to applications' indicators, rather than tray icons. [03:22] Unit193: thanks. okay, i reinstalled the xfce4-indicator-plugin. i'll reboot. BRB [03:24] Why reboot? This ain't Windows [03:24] the command gnome3 is fail, only gnome-shell operated [03:25] xfce4-panel -r if nothing else. [03:25] !info gnome3 [03:25] Package gnome3 does not exist in vivid [03:26] ok thanks for all bye [03:34] Unit193: Okay, now it works! (no more scrunched down wifi-menu) All i did was uninstall + reinstall + reboot: indicator-application-gtk2 indicator-application indicator-application [03:34] Johnny--: indicator-application-gtk2, what version of Xubuntu is this?? [03:35] maybe u dont even have to do all 3. U guys can add that to the solution bug.launchpad, if u have a login/password (i dont): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953 [03:35] Launchpad bug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] [03:35] Unit193: i'm using Linux Mint Xfce 17.2 [03:36] !mint | Johnny--, [03:36] Johnny--,: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [03:36] Johnny--, ask the mint folk for support of their product. it's not ubuntu = it's not supported here. [03:38] sorry, unit helped me here, i thought we all XFCE family :) [03:39] Johnny--, #xfce would agree with that statement [03:39] Well, to some extent, but we/Xubuntu can't know what Mint has changed, so can't really support it. [03:45] i do use xubuntu 14.04 also, and i do have the same problem, it is squished but not as much (makes u scroll thru it, instead of displaying all the wifi stuff at once [03:47] my 2nd computer has xubuntu 14.04.2. [03:49] so i'll my uninstall/ reinstall to see if that works on xubuntu [03:59] Okay, it works for xubuntu 14.04.2 also! Even more streamlined solution: [04:00] Uninstall + Reinstall: indicator-application Then, just log-off + Log-in. [04:02] so now, no more squished-down WiFi menu !! i'm happy now, if i u have login info, please add that simple solution to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/965953 [04:02] Launchpad bug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] [04:04] xangua: is there anyway to get "aero-snap" in GNOME classic/fallback? [04:19] Hey does anyone here know of a theme like clearlooks-phenix-theme, but with squared-off edges for GTK3? or how do u square them off, urself? [04:19] or of theme like Numix, but with high contrast colors (i.e. black font, not grey) [04:20] i finally found exactly that, but it is GTK2-only. Is there any way to get a similar theme to this in GTK3? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=109494 [06:00] hi, is alt-right-click resize windows set in xfce? [06:00] *xubuntu [06:02] yes it works [06:02] Comstock: me? what i meant is, is the setting created in xubuntu, or how can i change it to something like ctrl+alt+right-click drag? [06:03] i don't know if it's at xorg level, xfce, ubuntu, debian, ... [06:03] that i do not know, sorry [06:04] thanks though === max12345 is now known as Guest56143 === Guest56143 is now known as max12345 [17:08] "libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev:i386 is already the newest version." [17:09] "configure: gstreamer-0.10 base plugins 32-bit development files not found, gstreamer support disabled" [17:09] what [17:56] What's up fellow xubunters? [18:13] Hmm was frustrated trying to connect to facebook chat so just opened Trillian with Wine and that seems to work fine [18:14] Pidgin wasn't connect, forgot to note that [18:15] scodal, probably plugin is missing or not up-to-date [18:15] I read about perhaps needing a plugin [18:16] But doesn't it just connect through XMPP? [18:16] or did FB make some changes to their chat system [18:16] fb chat is _based_ on the XMPP protocol [18:16] ah gotcha [18:16] but you require an additional plugin to address the changes FB made [18:17] This makes sense, okay so I was kinda right lol [18:17] relevant changes to plugin git repository … 2 days ago [18:17] geesh, well drunk trillian on wine will do for now [18:17] I have other things I need to tackle first, but thanks for letting me know the right direction to go [18:17] you're welcome [18:21] I'm a web developer, php, html, css etc.. what's everyones favorite code editor? I'd like to try a few out on xu [18:22] scodal, there are quite some text editors available [18:22] even xubuntu's default editor mousepad knows about syntaxhighlighting and stuff btw. [18:23] do I have to enable syntax highlighting? [18:23] I just made a file on my desktop called file.php and all the text within is still just black on white [18:23] scodal, in terms of activating a color scheme [18:24] view - color scheme [18:24] I tried some color schemes, just looks like terminal [18:24] then you need to choose a file type [18:25] mousepad recognizes file types by mime type for syntax highlighting … or by selecting file type manually [18:25] Oh dang that did it [18:25] Convenient [18:25] Does mousepad support plugins [18:25] ? [18:25] no [18:26] Oblivion works for me theme. Alright cool Mousepad makes a great quick editor then [18:26] I ask because I use Sublime on Yosemite and Windows and it has an FTP plugin to sync with your work and up/download [18:26] That's ideally what I'm after [18:27] scodal, sublime should run on linux as well [18:27] how silly of me, I'm just noticing this on their website. it's a .deb file, that will be okay? [18:27] absolutely [18:27] actually their screenshots on the webpage are made with ubuntu ^^ [18:27] oh really? i just got the tar.bz2 [18:28] oh bad assery [18:28] what u recommend? the tar.bz2 or the .deb installation? [18:28] in general deb is easier [18:28] that's what i figured [18:28] but it depends what's in the tar.bz2 [18:28] i kinda like the tar.bz2 cause when it errors i find out things my system could use to support more things in the future lol [18:30] you can also use the tar.bz2 in this case [18:30] sublime comes with a pre-compiled binary and can be started directly from the uncompressed directory [18:30] in the .deb? [18:31] also in the deb with is just a different style of compress archive but known by the package manager [18:31] --with ++which [18:31] ah gotcha [18:31] it's been a while since i put linux on my system for full time use [18:31] my last experience was before redhat became fedora, and i ran KDE [18:32] so now i'm xubuntu xfce like :O [18:32] well not entirely true i've played with a few other distributions but something about xubuntu speaks to me [18:33] btw. an interesting - and free - alternative to sublime might be geany [18:33] did not expect that suggestion, thought you were about to say Atom, alright checking out geany now [18:33] I really enjoy using Geany over sublime [18:34] atom is still quite beta, but it is good to keep an enye on it [18:35] Snake1130, i do not know much about sublime, but are there any advantages from using geany instead? i am just curious [18:36] I have it on my Windows computer, I used it for about a week before deciding Sublime looks the same and runs faster. Atom likes RAM [18:37] is Snake1130 also a web developer? [18:38] oh I like .deb files, I just read you should -I to check dependencies, then apt-get install to retrieve, then -i to install [18:38] I think it was the price difference. I would try out Geany and see what you think. Everyone is different [18:38] and just like that, Sublime works on my computer [18:39] I have a license for Sublime, but yes, $ is a deterrent [18:40] Geany did everything I needed out of an editor but like I said, everyone is different. [18:40] Right, yeah editors one of the biggest debates on line of all time lol [18:40] Where I work we get in fights about it [18:41] scodal, i guess that's the reason why there are so many different editors nowadays [18:41] ^^ [18:41] to draw blood in fights at work [18:42] I'm just glad everyone quit using Dreamweaver, it's so clunky [18:43] You runnin 32 or 64bit? [18:45] scodal, because of dependencies i would recommend using the deb for your system's architecture [18:45] although i do not know if subline has any dependencies at all [18:45] right right, that was glorious, compared to reading a bunch of error messages looking for something to google [18:46] it said negative on dependencies. i'm up and running licensed version of sublime already, with my SFTP plugin installed and also licensed [18:46] happy scodal right here [18:47] shoot, on windows I know the name of monospace fonts off the top of my head, what are good monospace fonts on linux? [18:47] I shall google.. [18:52] Mmmm Inconsolata is hot [18:57] looks good [19:02] scodal, you may also try Terminus [19:03] it's a matter of taste - no question - but at least for me it works pretty nice for plain text (and irc) [19:04] I liked Terminus too, I have settled on Inconsolata though.. for now [19:06] So my two next big experiment/tackles are: dual screen & windows network shares [19:06] Any thoughts before I start getting my hands dirty? [19:06] scodal, dual screen depends a lot on your use case [19:06] and windows share on if you're want to connect or host them [19:09] connect to [19:09] for now [19:09] that's easy as xfce's file manager (thunar) supports samba shares via gvfs [19:10] try url 'smb://WORKGROUP;USER@IP/SHARE' [19:10] nice! samba, ah yes I remember this. I map network drives like a mad man. Is that also possible in xfce? [19:10] ok just a sec [19:11] alternatively use gigolo to manage your connections [19:11] smb://1;USER@GAMING/f$ [19:12] does it work like that? Yes my workgroup is 1, to avoid capitalization confusion [19:12] my username is User [19:12] can I use network names or do I have to specify the local IP? [19:12] network names work [19:12] where do I paste that? I tried the "Run" box and Firefox address bar lol [19:13] scodal, in the address/url/path/whatever bar in file manger [19:13] in the thunar bar [19:13] thunar! new term to me, ok looking for thunar [19:13] scodal, thunar = file manager [19:13] oh that just opens file manager, is that.. [19:13] yep ok [19:13] haha [19:13] lol yes. [19:18] scondal: When you open Thunar I can normally see the network on the left side bar. Lets me browse for the share I'm looking for. [19:18] scodal* [19:18] Nice I see this now [19:18] and I connected easily to my network share thank you [19:18] These small things make such a huge difference in how productive I feel on linux [19:18] yeah, that should work as well, but sometimes it don't and you the should now about URI solutions [19:19] can you add the password to the smb:// address? [19:20] scodal, i don't think so [19:20] chalk that one up as reasons: "security" [19:20] but this is where gigolo comes in handy to manage these connections more effectively [19:21] Custom Location? [19:21] scodal, windows Share ;) [19:22] shoot, timed out [19:22] asked for password and everything [19:22] Oh windows share lol [19:22] I should try that method [19:22] derp [19:22] damn, obviously gigolo as well can't handle passwords [19:23] well in this case, it asks for Server: and Share: [19:23] I haven't used Gigolo but it looks like a great way to go. [19:23] do I just put network name + share name? [19:23] or prolly you need to have the gnome keyring installed to handle passwords [19:23] gross I hate keyrings lol [19:23] who's idea was that [19:23] There is one built into xfce. [19:24] I seent it sneaking up pestering me lol [19:24] reminds me of Yosemite [19:24] well damn how do I access my keyring [19:24] I typed it and no results [19:25] I see when you choose Gigolo windows share, it just writes the same thing, the whole smb:// out [19:25] It's hating my password for no reason [19:48] Hello [19:50] hello [19:50] ? [19:50] hello [19:50] hi, can you help, please ? [19:50] ask the question and find out [19:51] well.. I installed xubuntu and after that I installed Windows [19:52] xubuntu46w, wrong order :) [19:52] but i cant restore grub or use a live cd to do this [19:52] yeah I know [19:52] but I needed to make a backup first [19:52] and now I cant acess xubuntu partition [19:52] even if I use a live CD [19:53] Do you know anything that can help me? [19:55] xubuntu46w, what do you mean by "cannot access" [19:55] does this partition still exist? [19:55] yes [19:55] if I use a live cd to see all my devices [19:55] It wont show xubuntu's partition [19:56] it the partition encrypted? [19:56] *is [19:56] yes, this is why i cant acess it ? [19:57] have a guess [19:58] haha [19:59] I had not really thought about it .. [20:00] Hey guys, I've got a question as well [20:00] is there a way to decrypt it ? [20:00] i know it does, but how ? [20:00] cryptsetup ? [20:01] Is it possible to install xubuntu on a usb drive? [20:01] jeepon, yes it is [20:02] Well it's not working :/ [20:02] jeepon, elaborate [20:02] does anyone have an idea about decrypt it ? [20:03] I put the installer using Unetbootin on one usb drive, booted normally and in the installer chose "something else" to set the partitions manually [20:05] Split the target usb drive into 2 partitions, 1 Primary ext4 as root and another logical for swap [20:05] And I chose the device (and later the root partition) for the boot loader [20:05] you need one for /home [20:05] ObrienDave, nope. [20:06] ObrienDave, /home is optional [20:06] :/ [20:06] jeepon, you use the live usb as an installation target? [20:07] on my laptop, I can't even choose it as a boot option, on another computer I get a "missing operating system" error [20:07] nope, 2 different usb drives [20:11] "mount: /dev/sda3 is write-protected, mounting read-only" [20:14] jeepon, Lecacy or EFI boot management? [20:15] xubuntu46w: do you remember what encryption you used? [20:15] EFI [20:16] no, i just clicked on encrypt my home folder option while installing xubuntu [20:16] jeepon, prolly grub efi failed because you used the manual partitioning [20:16] you need an additional efi parition [20:16] at least iirc [20:17] xubuntu46w: Check this information out http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line [20:17] *face palms* why do people encrypt the home folder? just set up an encrypted sub-folder later. SMH [20:18] is not a valid LUKS device. [20:19] 0brienDave now i learned that [20:19] ^^, [20:19] Yes I was under the impression you encrypted the entire drive not just the home folder. So the step I provided aren't going to work [20:20] this is too bad? D: [20:20] jeepon, btw. if you only use 1 partition for linux and one for swap you may use the automatic partitioning [20:21] mrkramps: I'll look it up, any pointers? [20:21] people, encrypted drives/partitions are just ONE BIG FILE. if any part gets corrupted, you lose the ENTIRE DRIVE. sheesh [20:21] jeepon, as said "use entire disk" or manually add the EFI Parition in the installer or gparted [20:22] Honestly, I wasn't sure I could trust the installer to leave the rest of the disks alone :) [20:22] any sugestion to a better encrypting, 0brienDave ? [20:22] xubuntu46w, only encrypt what you need to. a file, a folder, whatever. not the WHOLE drive [20:22] jeepon, which rest? [20:23] jeepon, or do you want to have an additional data partition on this usb drive? [20:24] but the option said only home folder. I have no ideia how it was the whole device [20:24] I've got 2 main drives in the laptop, I wanted to install to the usb drive only [20:25] xubuntu46w: Have you tried opening gparted and see what partitions you have? [20:25] xubuntu46w, it is just the home folder, but it turns that folder into one file [20:25] jeepon, if you "use entire disk" and select the usb drive the installer will of course just use this device [20:25] jeepon, but i can absolutely understand your worries ^^ [20:25] xubuntu46w, try using VeraCrypt. based on TrueCrypt which is not maintained anymore [20:26] Snake1130 it says that my partition is unallocated [20:26] Hehe, yeah I've been burned before [20:26] we all have :) [20:27] one time i clicked the 'minus' key thinking it was related to resizing a partition... I was wrong >.< [20:27] xubuntu46w: So you have the windows partition then this unallocated space? [20:27] yes [20:27] I'm going to guess that your xubuntu install is gone [20:28] mrkramps: so going your way, will the installer keep the boot loader on the same device as well? [20:28] if I remove my Windows partition, it will boot xubuntu ? [20:28] yes [20:28] xubuntu46x: Even if it entire drive was encrypted it would still show a ext4 partition [20:29] Least I think it does. ObrienDave might know. [20:30] jeepon, good question … afaik the installer will again ask for target device [20:30] i'll try to do that [20:31] 0brienDave, if I remove my Windows partition, it will boot Xubuntu ? [20:31] the heck what kind of hardware are you using? [20:31] I did win xp first, then xubuntu and it was fine [20:31] Snake1130, i think you're correct or with a LUKS sub-partiton [20:32] it shows my swap partition [20:32] jeepon, in case of doubt, maybe a good day for a backup =P [20:32] xubuntu46w, only if you don't mess up the bootloader [20:32] Alright, I'll give it a go then! [20:32] i got a spare machine I can mess around with [20:33] Are you using a critical system? I do everything on experimental systems where it's not critical if I get it right or not [20:33] Ah ok [20:33] And would you be going 64 or 32 bit? [20:33] well, can I just delete my Windows partition with a live CD ? [20:33] scodal, are you talking to me ? [20:33] Yes [20:33] 32 bits [20:33] I like problem solving [20:34] Nice, okay 32 bits I'm good at [20:34] haha [20:34] Thanks for all the help :D [20:34] If you delete your Windows partition from the Windows Live CD it will be totally inaccessible, if that's your goal [20:34] xubuntu46w, now days, windows has 3 partitions, recovery, boot and OS. the MBR is separate and you should, SHOULD, be able to delete windows partitions, i repete, should [20:34] sorry from a Linux Live CD [20:35] does? [20:35] I've seen 2 from windows? not seen the third you speak of [20:35] Yeah, I only 2 [20:35] It has the boot partition, 100mb usually, unless windows 10, then I think it's 1gb now [20:35] recovery partition is hidden :) [20:35] not hidden real well, but yes hidden lol [20:35] hidden from windows.. [20:35] hahaha [20:36] not hidden from gparted ;P [20:36] perfect haha [20:36] I love how linux doesn't care about Windows and just breaks it's rules [20:36] windows does not care about it's own rules. LOL [20:36] lmaooo [20:36] well, I can see a 100mb partition, my 300gb windows "normal" partition, a 96gb partition what it was suppose to be Xubuntu [20:36] and a 4gb swap [20:37] ah not bad [20:37] Shit I forget how I did this laptop [20:37] then you have no windows recovery partition [20:37] If I remember correctly when installing windows I purposely split my hard drive in half [20:37] because I knew I wanted to put linux in the other half [20:38] That would explain why my boot loader by default is not linux asking if I want to boot xubuntu or Windows [20:38] now* [20:38] GRUB saves lifes xD [20:38] it does [20:38] I'm not even sure if Grub is what I use [20:39] whatever I'm using is far different looking than GRUB I used years ago [20:39] i have 1.5TB lappy drive. 500M windows, 1TB Xubuntu ;P [20:39] dang [20:39] I would flip it around [20:39] no on YOUR life LOL [20:39] linux software uses less hard drive space than windows for some reason [20:39] windows = bloatware LOL [20:39] You will take your whole LIFE to fill that 1tb of linux with software lol [20:39] hahaha [20:40] movies ;P [20:40] Yeah lol exactly give mr bloatware the space imho [20:40] well 1000GB of linux software … a challenge [20:40] he's a necessary evil [20:40] that moment when you forget your problem and makes some friends [20:40] lol [20:40] movies are for external hard drives lol [20:40] that too ;P [20:41] so, what i suppose to do ? [20:41] i have to be social tomorrow for a birthday, it's going to hurt :( [20:41] delete my windows partition and left the 100mb partition ? [20:41] scodal is training with us haha [20:41] the 100mb partition might be a EFI parition [20:41] agrees [20:42] If you are in a situation to reinstall windows, I would put the win disc back in, partition out what you need for Windows ahead of time [20:42] you delete that and windows will never work [20:42] right no it won't [20:42] yup, install windows first and then xubuntu [20:42] xubuntu46w, is there something you really _need_ windows for? [20:42] i dont care about Windows, i just care about my xubuntu parition xD [20:43] gaming or such? [20:43] work :'( [20:43] If your windows install is working... you can just install ubuntu in the blank space [20:43] I like having windows installed with certain apps just in case I need to wine them [20:43] that's it [20:43] but i cant reinstall everything, i need to access the xubuntu'a partition [20:43] xubuntu's [20:43] oh you're in a less needy situation than me by far [20:43] i have CAD/CAM software i must have windows for. [20:44] it sounds like your linux boot loader isn't working right [20:44] yeah [20:44] update grub? [20:44] i already try that, [20:44] and use boot-repair too [20:45] it says "its fine, you can reboot now" [20:45] you are trying to dual win 7x86 and xbuntux86? [20:45] xubuntu46w, can you provide any information about this partition? [20:45] but wont boot linux [20:45] boot-repair can't fix LUKS [20:45] cryptsetup says it isnt luks [20:45] yes scodal [20:45] what partition, mrkramps ? [20:45] which* [20:45] xubuntu [20:46] well, i installed at this morning.. It is 32bits [20:46] this is why I am unfamiliar, win xp 32 does not use more than 1 partition [20:47] xubuntu46w: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory [20:47] nops, sorry, xubuntu is 64bits [20:47] oh [20:47] that stupid boot partition [20:47] win 7 does [20:48] yall have exceeded my pay grade, I haven't experimented with these specifics. I apologize [20:49] So you are using a 64 bit processor, dual booting win 7 64-bit and Xubuntu 64-bit? [20:50] nop, i use win 7 32bit and xubuntu 64bit [20:50] I think that at the moment - that stuff isn't really needed [20:50]