[06:44] <octoquad> Hi
[06:48] <LinDol> hi :)
[09:16] <lindol> hi all
[09:59] <lindol> um.. Could i find something that i can use memo application? for example) sticky memo in Windows.
[10:38] <darkxst> lindol, I don't know what that is, but there is tomboy and bijiben as note apps
[10:39] <darkxst> I think there may have also been a gnome-shell extension, that does something similar
[11:39] <octoquad> hi darkxst
[11:39] <darkxst> hi octoquad
[11:40] <octoquad> I'm having a hard time getting a debdiff for #1406200. Can you help?
[11:41] <octoquad> changes are done, packages build, packages upgrade and using goa: works, i've just been stuck on the changes not showing the debdiff for the last three weeks
[11:42] <darkxst> octoquad, just do `debdiff <new>.dsc <original>.dsc
[11:42] <octoquad> this is what I get when I do it: http://pastebin.com/LvEwBt0y
[11:43] <darkxst> then your changes are missing?
[11:43] <octoquad> I know right! lol
[11:43] <darkxst> from the source pacakage?
[11:44] <octoquad> Well, I only changed the debian/control and created a new .install file. I though debuild -S would pick it up but it doesn't
[11:44] <octoquad> thought*
[11:44] <darkxst> octoquad, does syncevo use a control.in?
[11:44] <octoquad> let me check
[11:45] <octoquad> there is ./src/synthesis/configure.in
[11:45] <darkxst> octoquad, no in debian/
[11:46] <octoquad> nope
[11:46] <darkxst> octoquad, wierd then, since debdiff will show all changes between your source package and the old one
[11:46] <octoquad> exactly, very weird
[11:47] <octoquad> I've tried some many different things it's driving me crazy now haha
[11:47] <darkxst> it shouldnt be hard
[11:48] <darkxst> but I still think that your 1.5-0ubuntu5 package is missing the changes to debian/control
[11:49] <octoquad> That's the new one I created based of 1.5-0ubuntu4.
[11:52] <darkxst> octoquad, or your diffing against an ubuntu4 package that has your changes (and not the exact ubuntu version)
[11:54] <octoquad> can you provide an example of what you mean? I'm using this at the moment: debdiff syncevolution_1.5-0ubuntu5.dsc syncevolution_1.5-0ubuntu4.dsc > debdiff.diff
[11:54] <darkxst> I mean somehow you changed the ubuntu4 versions control file, before you added the changelog entry?
[11:55] <darkxst> if you did a debuild -S before adding the changelog, that would happen
[11:56] <octoquad> I can't use debuild -S unless I add a change log entry otherwise it wants the GPG key that does not belong to me
[11:56] <octoquad> Ok, so if I don't do dch -i first, then I get "signfile syncevolution_1.5-0ubuntu4.dsc Ken VanDine <ken.vandine@canonical.com>"
[11:56] <octoquad> secret key not available
[11:57] <darkxst> well you can if you have a default key set (or use -us -uc) but clearly that is not the problem
[11:57] <octoquad> So, are you saying that I should rather create a new change log entry, then edit the control file and create the .install file and then use debuild -S
[11:58] <darkxst> well yes, but if you didnt do that already it shouldnt be a problem
[11:59] <darkxst> octoquad, feel free to make a bzr branch if that is easier
[11:59] <octoquad> I think I see where I went wrong, I got the package with dget, did the changes then ran dch -i, then debuild -S. Let me try other way and see if that works, I can't remember if I tried it that way before.
[12:00] <octoquad> oh the branching was a mission as well lol
[12:02] <darkxst> octoquad, why?
[12:04] <octoquad> it worked!
[12:04] <octoquad> oh my hat, so the order I did it was wrong. Thanks darkxst
[12:05] <darkxst> octoquad, np
[12:05] <octoquad> I had patch hunking failures
[12:05] <octoquad> and fuzz
[12:05] <octoquad> and previous patches were trying to be applied
[12:06] <octoquad> For bug #1406200 should we re-assign to wiley milestone?
[12:06] <darkxst> octoquad, yes it will have to go into wily first
[12:06] <darkxst> havent checked if it could be SRU'ed to vivid
[12:07] <octoquad> ok so creating debdiff for vivid is useless then?
[12:07] <darkxst> octoquad, create for wily, and get that sponsored first
[12:07] <darkxst> (I can't upload it)
[12:07] <octoquad> oh ok, how does one check if a package can be SRU'ed for an active release?
[12:07] <darkxst> bug fixes are ok for SRU
[12:08] <octoquad> I see, package splits are not then. Noted.
[12:10] <darkxst> octoquad, looking, I'd say its unlikely to be valid for vivid SRU
[12:10] <octoquad> btw, what is the time by you now?
[12:10] <darkxst> 10pm
[12:11] <octoquad> Ok, I just wanted to add your timezone to clocks quickly. I hardly get a chance to ask you things during the week because of work.
[12:12] <darkxst> octoquad, ok I'm +10 for winter
[12:12] <octoquad> ta. Before you go, could you way in on this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/899878
[12:13] <octoquad> I've created a CSS file for Ubuntu Gnome, it's nearly done, but it doesn't really fix the problem for other themes. Should I even pursue this further?
[12:18] <darkxst> octoquad, they would probably take a fix for adwaita, since its our default theme, zero chance they would take fixes for other unsupported themes though
[12:19] <octoquad> Ok, i'll finish the GOA support and then finish that up. If you need a hand with anything, please shout. I have some time available for the next couple of weeks.
[12:20] <octoquad> I've been testing Wiley on and off in between everything else.
[12:23] <darkxst> 3.16 is falling into line pretty well, few bits of core are still blocked though
[12:24] <darkxst> and would be nice to get some sort of DEP-11 support for gnome-software running this cycle
[12:24] <darkxst> debian have been working on the latter, and I believe its live in tanglu
[12:25] <darkxst> I'll try and chat with ximion about it in the next week
[12:26] <octoquad> yes it's very smooth, I actually want to redo my desktop setup using Wiley Alpha 2, unfortunately staging breaks for me in vivid
[12:27] <darkxst> what breaks? not heard any reports of vivid staging being broken
[12:28] <darkxst> I don't have any vivid boxes left however, apart from test VM's
[12:28] <octoquad> maybe it's just my setup, it's been upgraded from 14.04 all the way through to  15.04. I can't recall, but the desktop doesn't work with a new profile or an existing one.
[12:28] <octoquad> I'll try now, maybe it was a temporary problem when I tried.
[12:28] <octoquad> ~2 months ago
[12:30] <darkxst> most of the core stuff is backported from wily, so should be pretty stable
[12:31] <octoquad> busy upgrading to staging now, I'll let you know how it goes.
[12:31] <darkxst> apps are potentially a little out out date
[12:32] <octoquad> I really like what the did to the overall look of GNOME and the notifications is a such a useful change.
[12:40] <octoquad> oh, one the wiley side of life, I had these two problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/1479986
[12:40] <octoquad> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-signed/+bug/1479980
[12:41] <darkxst> first would be an obsolete key in ubuntu-gnome-default-settings overrides, feel free to submit a patch for that ;)
[12:42] <octoquad> hehe
[12:42] <darkxst> no idea about the latter, and I need to sleep so not even going to look !
[12:42] <octoquad> haha, all good
[12:43] <darkxst> but we don't touch any of the grub stuff, so would be an all of ubuntu and flavours problem
[12:44] <octoquad> should I mark Ubuntu Gnome as affected for the grub problem so reports can see it?
[12:44] <darkxst> sure
[12:44] <octoquad> sorry ...reporters can see it?
[12:45] <darkxst> assign it a w milestone, you have access to that no?
[12:45] <octoquad> yes and done
[12:46] <octoquad> ok, staging is installed. Let's see how that goes. brb
[13:11] <lindol> darkxst, Thank you for your advise :) Yes, I am finding note application,
[13:11] <lindol> Thank you very much :)
[13:17] <SonikkuAmerica> darkxst: Hey ol' pal, how's the distro going?
[13:25] <darkxst> SonikkuAmerica, still tracking along, though Ive been flat out bust with real life, have others doing most of the work, I just doing the harder stuff that no one else can
[13:25] <darkxst> when I can slot an hour or 2 in
[13:30] <darkxst> and dealing with idiots on the mailing lists
[13:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Idiots?
[13:50] <darkxst> there has a been a couple of very verbose, troll types with a false sense of entitlement towards the project
[13:51] <darkxst> maybe they meant well, but came across bad, and one likes to write 2000 word essays
[13:52]  * darkxst goes bed, night