[05:01] <Orbit> hey Lubuntu won't let me switch drivers, and im tryin to use OBS
[05:01] <holstein> Orbit: obs, from the obs ppa?
[05:01] <Orbit> and i read that my driver has problems with Lubuntu and every fix I see, i try and it just generates errors
[05:01] <Orbit> yeah
[05:02] <holstein> Orbit: your GPU drivers?
[05:02] <Orbit> Can't find a source to download version '2:14.201-0ubuntu2.1' of 'fglrx-updates:amd64
[05:02] <Orbit> i just go to "additional drivers"
[05:02] <holstein> Orbit: that will not be particular to lubuntu, or lxde.. that will be related to main ubuntu and the kernel
[05:02] <holstein> !amd
[05:02] <Orbit> oh
[05:02] <holstein> !ati
[05:02] <Orbit> sorry, i was in that room but they're busy
[05:03] <holstein> it can be, the hardware you have, if its amd, doesnt support linux well
[05:03] <holstein> and, they (amd) dont provide 3d support to you in linux
[05:03] <Orbit> honestly everything was working fine until today
[05:03] <holstein> Orbit: until you wanted to use obs? with 3d?
[05:03] <Orbit> no not 3d
[05:03] <holstein> obs requires 3d support
[05:03] <Orbit> it's just my stream was completely black, but sound worked
[05:04] <Orbit> i read someone else had the same problem and fixed it by using a different driver so I tried that and now OBS just crashes where as it worked before... now i can't select the original driver i had been using
[05:04] <holstein> Orbit: if someone else has suggested a fix, i would ask them, and make sure they have the *same* hardware
[05:05] <holstein> you can always specify the driver... you can look and see if the amd driver has created an xorg.conf you can remove..
[05:05] <Orbit> can i ask how i'd do that
[05:06] <Orbit> do you have any idea why it wouldn't let me use the driver i was originally using?  considering it was working i dont' see the problem
[05:06] <holstein> Orbit: i would look and see if one has been created..
[05:06] <Orbit> okay bear with me, where would i look for that?
[05:06] <holstein> !xorg
[05:10] <Orbit> sorry
[05:10] <Orbit> i didn't realize what you sent me would restart everything, i fyou said anything after the command i sent, I didn't get it
[05:11] <holstein> you'll have to reboot, the linux kernel, to change GPU drivers, like you are trying to do
[05:11] <Orbit> well i already rebooted just now
[05:12] <Orbit> it's still selecting the second driver, i need the first one to be selected the x.org X server one
[05:12] <holstein> sure.. go for it.. or, you can remove the driver you installed, in another package manager
[05:13] <Orbit> it just keeps switching back to the second one but obs is running now
[05:13] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers for exmaple,
[05:13] <Orbit> maybe it is working right
[05:13] <Orbit> im always afraid to remove stuff :P, seems everytime I do I break something unintentionally
[05:13] <Orbit> but thank you
[05:13] <holstein> Orbit: you'l want to do this independent of OSB.. stop running/starting osb, get the driver you want.. make sure its stable.. then deal with obs
[05:14] <holstein> Orbit: you are asking how to remove stuff.. though
[05:14] <Orbit> right
[05:14] <Orbit> i just tested it to see if it worked since that's how this whole mess got started
[05:14] <holstein> you should be more afraid of adding stuff ;)
[05:14] <Orbit> fair enough
[05:14] <holstein> anuyways... if you want the driver gone, that UI you are using, that you are not able to use is just one way
[05:15] <Orbit> oh hey the stream works now too O_o
[05:15] <Orbit> i don't get it but... if it works, good deal
[05:15] <holstein> i dont think that was related..
[05:16] <Orbit> probably not
[05:16] <Orbit> btw what video card would you recommend?
[05:17] <holstein> well, ideally, i would recommend buying the hardware from a place that promises support for the operating system you want to use.. if thats a linux operating system, a linux reseller such as system76 would sell, and support the hardware for linux
[05:18] <Orbit> yeah i got a new video card last year from some repair shop cause mine wasn't working right
[05:19] <holstein> oh, i have as well.. i got one for $12, used.. dual head.. nvidia..
[05:19] <Orbit> nvidia is what I USED to have
[05:19] <holstein> but, i knew, going in, for 12 bucks, i would be able to give that away, to a windows user, and not lose much
[05:20] <holstein> otherwise, i try, and i save reciepts, and i make sure i can return.. becuase *i* have to be able to provide support for the device in linux
[05:21] <Orbit> right
[05:21] <Orbit> well to be fair, as I said it was working until today
[05:21] <holstein> ?
[05:21] <Orbit> but im going to try the instructions on this page, thanks
[05:22] <holstein> sure.. i have ati card right here, in this laptop
[05:22] <Orbit> okay this is different   "error processing package fglrx-updates (--purge):
[05:22] <Orbit>  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should
[05:22] <Orbit>  reinstall it before attempting a removal
[05:22] <Orbit> error processing package fglrx-updates (--purge):
[05:22] <Orbit>  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should
[05:22] <Orbit>  reinstall it before attempting a removal
[05:22] <holstein> its a compromise, for sure..
[05:22] <holstein> !paste
[05:23] <holstein> so, you dont have the driver installed properly, it seems.. but, iwould just leave well enough alone, Orbit , if obs is working as you want.. and the system is stable
[05:24] <Orbit> well the update manager was having a fit about the proprietary drivers
[05:24] <Orbit> okay i need to restart again i guess
[05:25] <holstein> i wouldnt
[05:25] <holstein> hmmm... oh well..
[05:29] <Orbit> okay so things seem to be working alright
[05:30] <Orbit> so you don't think I should try to fix the driver or anything?
[05:30] <holstein> Orbit: fix?
[05:30] <Orbit> well you said to just leave it alone since things were working
[05:31] <holstein> Orbit: i mean, ideally, AMD would "fix" it.. since, they dont, then, you, as i do with my current amd, will need to likely accept compromise
[05:31] <Orbit> oh okay
[05:31] <Orbit> i think thenext big ubuntu ill just do a fresh install
[05:31] <holstein> if something is wrong, i would fix it.. otherwise, its likely fine
[05:31] <Orbit> this isn't the first time this video card caused problems
[05:31] <Orbit> that was on an older ubuntu though
[05:32] <holstein> older kernel.. thats the key
[05:32] <holstein> a different kernel, and different drivers
[05:34] <Orbit> no this is causing problems, it says i can't install anything because of a software issue, i think ill have to go to the regular ubuntu chat
[09:48] <silver_m> anyone uses plank with compton together?
[10:00] <silver_m> I have a question about compton and plank
[10:00] <silver_m> I try to use them together
[10:00] <silver_m> and I want plank to have transparent background
[10:01] <silver_m> but although they run together compton and plank at startup, plank dont have transparent background
[10:21] <klu> what happens with ctrl+alt+del in lubuntu ? i use 14.04.2.
[10:22] <klu> looks like it restart.
[10:50] <masterjedi688> Morning/Afternoon
[10:50] <masterjedi688> I need a little help with a small problem I'm having
[10:51] <masterjedi688> Can anyone help?
[10:54] <masterjedi688> Hello?
[10:59] <Masterjedi688> Hello
[10:59] <Masterjedi688> Anyone here?
[13:14] <Newk> this is (still) quite usefull: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422861&page=2&p=12046528#post12046528
[13:14] <Newk> why isnt something like this part of lubuntu config tools?
[13:16] <Newk> i just looked for this because i didnt liked the default F11 for fullscreen so changed it on the fly with this little tool to Super+F11
[13:18] <Newk> yes i know you can edit the .xml as text.. but one little typo and you're screwed
[13:23] <Newk> where is the Alt+LeftMouseButton combo configured? (for dragging windows)
[13:24] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard suggests obkey
[13:24] <holstein> i always try the openbox config, and go from there..
[13:30] <Newk> in obconf under 'move&resize' or 'mouse' ?
[13:31] <holstein> ive never used it.. i'll personally just experiment with the config myself, or, i'll look for a distro with the functionality, and steal/borrow the config :)
[13:33] <Newk> :p
[13:35] <Newk> thanx for the insight holstein :)
[13:47] <Newk> i guess thats obkey's shortcoming.. no mouse bindings
[13:54] <Newk> openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings  << points to /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml for default openbox keys and that those can be override by ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml .. or maybe lubuntu-rc.xml too
[13:54] <Newk> gotta try that
[20:53] <derich> is it a bug that the indicator field in taskbar has a ugly different darker gray background color?
[20:54] <derich> or does somebody knows how to fix it?