[01:56] has anyone recently bought a laptop here? I'm looking to buy a good ubuntu laptop. Had my eye on dell xps 13 - but that has been discontinued for now. === FJKong_afk is now known as FJKong === BinLi is now known as BinLi_afk [04:26] Good morning === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [07:04] good morning === ara is now known as Guest14068 [07:16] @pilot in === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: wily open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -&gt; http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of precise -&gt; vivid | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: dholbach [07:17] hey dholbach, enjoy ;-) [07:17] thanks [07:29] dholbach, 3.8.3 is the newest non-bluez5 version [07:29] ah ok [07:29] It just brings in a few bug fixes, but it would be nice to have [07:29] right [07:29] We're discussing bluez5 in -desktop now, it will happen later this cycle if we can get the manpower finally === dbarth__ is now known as dbarth === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [09:04] Noskcaj, do you have a link to the source package of 3.8.0-2? [09:05] I thought i got the merge up to 3.8.3-1 [09:05] https://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-user-share/3.8/gnome-user-share-3.8.3.tar.xz [09:05] https://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-user-share/3.8/gnome-user-share-3.8.0.tar.xz if not [09:05] the source package [09:05] like the .dsc file and everything [09:06] oh, no. I just got it from the pkg-gnome tags [09:06] mh [09:07] nevermind... http://snapshot.debian.org/package/gnome-user-share/3.8.0-2/ [09:35] seb128, I saw you didn't forward libproxy to debian. are there other uploads which are not yet forwarded? [09:37] doko, yes, I didn't manage to go through all the diffs on thursday and I was on friday, I'm going to do the remaining ones after lunch [09:45] thanks [09:55] Hi, anyone can help me with working with quilt? I made an upgrade for a package and now I have a non-applying patch. However, I cannot refresh it, since it does not apply and quilt do not want to move to this patch until it does not apply [09:55] quilt refresh does not work [09:57] Laney: in case you had some config or other files: I just redeployed the entire autopkgtest cloud stuff from scratch [09:58] pitti: nope, maybe stuff in shell history that'll be gone though. :P [09:58] Laney: I did some work this morning to add basenode/ksplice/landscape/two nova configs, and wanted to re-test the whole thing before we switch to production [09:59] what is basenode? [09:59] * Laney can't quite google it up [10:02] hron85: quilt push -f, resolve conflicts (it should tell you about where they are, and IIRC there'll be the usual patch-conflict <<< === >>> markers in the conflicted files), quilt refresh [10:03] hron85: assuming that your starting point is a consistent tree whose quilt state is at the patch immediately below the non-applying one [10:14] cjwatson: yep, it solved my problem, thanks [10:15] cjwatson: yes, I knew the not-applying patch will be the next, but i did not found any way to move to it, since quilt refresh rejects to work if the mentioned patch is not applied yet. [10:34] does anybody know if someone is working on the proposed gnupg 2.1.x as default? I did not see anything since the original message and I wondering if I missed some message [10:38] StevenK, hi, a gcc5 rebuild of aptitude please :) [10:39] ah sorry, slangasek ^ [10:41] hron85: right, in general I think it's best to avoid quilt refresh's mode where it takes a patch name - it's conceptually very confusing [10:50] seb128: doko: do you want help with rebuilds/uploads? if so, where? [10:51] ricotz, current ftbfs [10:51] Laney, see slangasek's message on -release [10:52] hmm, I don't have one [10:52] nor on the archive [10:52] link? [10:58] Laney, #ubuntu-release [11:00] still unclear [11:00] I see the individual transitions - should I take one and work on it? [11:00] + checking your build logs for ABI changes [11:09] doko, oh, I see === henrix_ is now known as henrix === utlemming is now known as utlemming_away === utlemming_away is now known as utlemming === utlemming is now known as utlemming_away === psivaa is now known as psivaa-lunch === utlemming_away is now known as utlemming [13:01] mitya57: hi, I'm trying to look into the gnome-flashback keyboard layout applet issue, is the problem there that the existing applet doesn't respond to layout changes reported by xorg? [13:39] @pilot out === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: wily open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -&gt; http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of precise -&gt; vivid | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: [13:50] seb128, Laney: just updated to wily. the handles for the terminals don't exist. is this expected? [13:50] also when trying to update to wily-proposed: [13:50] The following packages will be REMOVED: [13:50] aptitude compiz compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager libasprintf0c2 libcompizconfig0 libdouble-conversion1 libllvm3.6 libmirclient8 libprotobuf9 libproxy1 libtag1-vanilla libxapian22 [13:50] mumble python-compizconfig python-xapian signon-ui signon-ui-x11 software-center tasksel tasksel-data ubuntu-desktop unity unity-control-center-signon unity-tweak-tool [13:50] webaccounts-extension-common xul-ext-webaccounts [13:53] doko, the scrollbar issue is known I think, Laney has the details [13:54] doko, compiz/unity rebuild/fixes for gcc5 are in silo43 it seems, check with bregma when he plans to land it I guess [13:55] dunno about aptitude mumble etc [13:55] bregma, ^^^ ??? [13:56] doko, there's an issue with one of the branches landing that still needs to be retested, then I'm landing that silo as soon as I can [13:57] ta [13:57] it's been a game of whack-a-mole getting everything to build [14:00] bregma, are there any other silos needed? [14:01] doko, that silo installs OK as long as -proposed is enabled, so not for the Unity stack as far as I know [14:09] Laney: FYI: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud (moved from ~pitti) [14:12] jamespage, zul, roaksoax, smoser: there doesn't seem to be any progress on the ruby dep-waits ... [14:13] apw: not sure if you actually still need this, but http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/data/packages/wily/amd64/l/linux/latest.json (and all other JSONs) have URLs to the swift artifacts nwo [14:14] that looks useful, even if i don't use it, though i suspect i will [14:15] doko: which ruby dep-waits are those, the ones on gem2deb? [14:16] doko: because if so (and they quite probably involve gem2deb somewhere), don't hassle the server team about it, needs the next launchpad-buildd rollout because gem2deb started making use of build profiles [14:16] cjwatson, ruby-hashie, ruby-rspec, ruby-safe-yaml, ruby-test-unit [14:16] ahh, ok [14:17] doko: there might be some MIRs buried in there too [14:17] dpkg-gencontrol: warning: can't parse dependency libxapian22 (>= 1.2.21)v5 [14:17] hrm, [14:17] ah, no, just misleadingly wrong dep-waits I think [14:18] doko: certainly at least ruby-hashie and ruby-rspec will be ultimately fixed by new buildd, haven't checked them all [14:18] hopefully I'll get a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad-buildd/snapcraft/+merge/266541 soon and then I can start the release process [14:18] ok, good to know ... still we should address the dep-waits too [14:19] doko: what kind of addressing are you talking about? [14:20] writing MIR's, dropping b-d's etc [14:20] doko: well, some of the dep-waits you see are bogus [14:20] so it's probably not worth chasing any of that down until the buildds are fixed [14:21] sure, but I doubt that the perl team uses these too [14:21] doko: ruby-test-unit -> ruby-power-assert looks like a real MIR case [14:21] doko: perl example? [14:22] see http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ [14:25] ok, sure, there's probably a bunch of MIR handling to be done there === psivaa-lunch is now known as psivaa [14:59] doko: handles? we changed the scrollbars and there's a problem with the terminal's widget but the thumb is gone if that's what you mean [15:00] you can still scroll it but it's annoying to make it go big [15:00] pitti: ah, cool [15:01] pitti: do you plan to document the architecture? :) [15:01] Laney: yes, of course [15:04] Laney, indeed very ugly [15:05] pitti: great - I'm currently still a bit sketchy and would be scared if I had to (e.g.) redeploy it :P [15:05] doko: we will try to tweak more before release [15:06] Laney: heh, sure; indeed there is one remaining bug for complete re-deployment [15:08] (bug 1480962) [15:08] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1480962 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480962). The error has been logged [15:08] Laney: once that's fixed, it will become really simple; I'll write documentation of all of that once it's all in place [15:08] yay [15:43] tseliot: hmm, seems something broke the fglrx driver? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/u/ubuntu-drivers-common/wily/amd64/ [15:46] pitti: having an actual build log would help. I'll try it here, thanks [15:46] tseliot: yeah, we should fix those tests to cat the build log on failure [15:46] pitti: that would be nice [15:50] bdmurray, i gues you're not awake... [15:50] https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu-reports/trunk.fix-server-merges/+merge/266745 [15:51] smoser: I am actually and in a meeting. I'll have a look shortly. [15:52] * pitti waves good night [15:52] bdmurray, ok. thanks. and then kick the report generation if you could. [15:53] pitti: the module built but I see two architectures in my chroot: dkms status [15:53] fglrx-core, 15.200.1, 4.1.0-3-generic, amd64: installed [15:53] fglrx-core, 15.200.1, 4.1.0-3-generic, x86_64: installed [15:59] tseliot: did you enable -proposed? [15:59] pitti: not really [16:00] pitti: this is all I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/11993942/ [16:00] tseliot: i. e. it's plausible that it fails due to gcc 5; /me tries in a chroot with -proposed [16:01] pitti: gcc -v reports "gcc version 4.9.2 (Ubuntu 4.9.2-17ubuntu1)" [16:01] tseliot: right, and in -proposed we switched to 5. [16:02] pitti: right, but I don't have -proposed enabled [16:02] so it must be something else [16:03] or maybe the failure is a separate issue and/or a false positive [16:05] (wily-amd64)root@donald:/home/martin# modprobe fglrx [16:05] modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'fglrx': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [16:05] [ 404.772855] fglrx: Unknown symbol amd_iommu_bind_pasid (err 0) [16:05] [ 404.772925] fglrx: Unknown symbol amd_iommu_set_invalid_ppr_cb (err 0) [16:05] [ 404.773082] fglrx: Unknown symbol amd_iommu_set_invalidate_ctx_cb (err 0) [16:05] [ 404.773170] fglrx: Unknown symbol amd_iommu_unbind_pasid (err 0) [16:05] [ 404.773265] fglrx: Unknown symbol amd_iommu_init_device (err 0) [16:05] [ 404.773372] fglrx: Unknown symbol amd_iommu_free_device (err 0) [16:05] tseliot: ^ I get that with -proposed [16:06] pitti: ok, so it's not a build error. It looks like fun. I'll fix it, thanks [16:06] tseliot: hm, I get the same without -proposed [16:07] it started failing on Aug 1 [16:08] maybe the ABI broke somehow? [16:08] tseliot: hm, maybe this is normal in a chroot; that's not what the test fails on [16:08] so this needs a closer look [16:08] slangasek, ScottK is right — only the plugin(s?) are built against default python3, everything else is built against all supported versions [16:08] (sorry for the delay btw) [16:08] pitti: yes, I'll test it on a real system [16:08] tseliot: cheers [16:12] alkisg, hi, if by "existing applet" you mean indicator-keyboard, then it doesn't support xkb switching. It listens to gsettings changes on org.gnome.input-sources (that are done by g-s-d or u-s-d). [16:13] And that should work fine in Ubuntu (unlike Debian or upstream). [16:13] mitya57: it works here in 14.04, but not in 15.10 [16:14] I can use indicator-keyboard with the mouse to change the language, but I can't use any keyboard shortcut to change it [16:14] Even though gsettings are the same as in 14.04 when it worked [16:16] mitya57: so the plan is for someone to write such an applet, and then use it in all variants, upstream, debian and ubuntu? [16:16] Or ubuntu will keep using indicator-keyboard? [16:18] alkisg, it's in our "patches welcome" list upstream :) [16:18] let me look at the code a bit [16:19] If you accept one that listens for *xkb* changes as well, instead of only for gsettings changes, it would be interesting... :) [16:25] alkisg, why do you still need xkb changes? GNOME upstream deprecated that and gsettings is much easier to use. [16:25] alkisg, also, do you have gnome-settings-daemon or unity-settings-daemon running? [16:25] mitya57: unity-settings [16:26] that should work fine… [16:26] It doesn't... clean 15.10 installation [16:26] That was basically what I was worried about, I thought that it would be broken in ubuntu 15.10+, 16.04 etc like it is upstream... [16:26] Are you using modifiers-only keybinding or not? [16:27] The defaults, win+space [16:27] I also tried alt+shift which worked in 14.04, it doesn't work either [16:27] Does it list in gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source? [16:28] space [16:28] Looks fine. [16:28] Is there a bug open in LP for it, and if no, can you please file one? [16:29] I'll check + file a bug, thanks, [16:29] about xkb changes, unfortunately gnome upstream breaks sdl apps, and we're trying to make things work as they were with xorg without gnome breaking them... [16:30] Can you also attach "gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.input-sources" to the bug, please? [16:30] E.g. in tuxpaint, tuxtype, we cannot type greek at all now with recent gnome versions, the last one to work fine for us was 12.04 [16:30] mitya57: another issue that might need resolving, [16:31] I install ubuntu with greek layout in ubiquity etc. Then I create a user, and /home/user is empty [16:31] There is something off with the http://releases.ubuntu.com/vivid/ FOOSUMS files, and their corresponding FOOSUMS.gpg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11994117/. In addition to gpg reporting BAD signatures there is also the oddness that the FOOSUMS files appear to have newer mtimes than their corresponding FOOFUMS.gpg. [16:31] If that user logs in, he has nothing in the layouts list, while it should be "us,gr" [16:31] (No idea where the proper place to report such an issue is) [16:31] So all users need to go to keyboard settings and add the layouts manually [16:32] I think this happens in all ubuntu gnome variants, while it doesn't happen in e.g. fedora... or of course in ubuntu <= 12.04 [16:32] alkisg, please report that against the installer (i.e. if you use the graphic one, then it's ubiquity) [16:33] mitya57: I think the problem is that gnome doesn't respect the global xorg settings anymore [16:33] It's not about ubiquity... e.g. when one run `adduser x` after the installation, that "x" user doesn't get the xorg system default layout [16:33] *runs [16:33] alkisg, are you installing Ubuntu GNOME? [16:33] No, plain ubuntu and then gnome-flashback [16:34] It's been that way since 14.04. It was working in 12.04 [16:34] I've been filling a lot of bug reports about these issues, but they didn't draw much attention... [16:35] This is first time I hear about this issue. [16:35] :) [16:35] :) [16:35] It looks like it's not specific to GNOME Flashback, so try sending a mail to ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com [16:35] There are people who should know what component to blame [16:36] The long story is that ubiquity, lightdm, accountsservice, gnome-settings-daemon, unity-settings-daemon, and a couple of other applications don't work with multiple keyboard layouts since 13.04 or so [16:37] Let me try the indicator with unity... [16:38] mitya57: I think that the "indicator doesn't change on layout changes by keyboard shortcuts" is specific to flashback, in unity it's working fine [16:38] And it broke after 14.04 [16:39] The 10+ rest issues about layouts are not specific to flashback, but they are specific to ubuntu though... :-/ [16:40] * alkisg checks + files a bug for that one... [16:40] alkisg, does the gsettings key (i.e. org.gnome.desktop.input-sources current) change when you toggle the keybinding? [16:41] unity => yes, moment for flashback... [16:41] metacity => no, moment for compiz... [16:42] pitti: Did I ever get those trusty langpacks? [16:44] mitya57: gnome-flashback (compiz) gives me unity without the top panel... go figure :) [16:44] alkisg, metacity is enough, that indicates that the problem is not in the indicator, but in unity-settings-daemon [16:44] the fix for compiz will be in next compiz upload :) [16:45] mitya57: hope you don't mind me asking, are you using the flashback+metacity session yourself in production? [16:46] We're using gnome-flashback in 1000+ schools here, but I was wondering if mate would be more appropriate, considering the old hardware... [16:46] gnome-flashback feels like the best choice, considering it's closer to upstream gnome, but it also feels understaffed... :) [16:50] Yes, we are quite lacking resources [16:50] Actually I do just packaging (don't have time for anything else), all upstream work is done by 1.5 people :) [16:52] Yes fortunately Alberts is doing the bulk of the work... but mitya57, are you using it in production somewhere? Or is it just your preferred DE? [16:53] Many my friends use it :) [16:53] Nice :) [16:53] Also I set it up in a school some time ago, not sure if they are still using it [16:53] * mitya57 keeps accidentally pressing Ctrl+Q [16:54] * alkisg wonders where "ibus" fits in all this... it's preinstalled, and previously it was not running by default, and now it is... [16:55] * mitya57 doesn't know anything about ibus [17:00] mitya57: should I file the bug against indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu), or against unity-settings-daemon? [17:00] I.e. that it works in unity but not in flashback [17:05] alkisg, unity-settings-daemon, and also add https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome-flashback as a subtask [17:05] Thanks, trying... [17:08] why is xapian-bindings ftbfs on the buildds ... [17:14] bregma, so even with your landing PPA enabled, I can't upgrade [17:20] mitya57: I've filed LP #1481025 [17:20] Launchpad bug 1481025 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Keyboard shortcut for layout switching works in Unity but not in Gnome-Flashback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481025 [17:27] cyphermox: thanks for the new wpa! fwiw it does not seem there is stated delta anymore to Debian's debian/config/wpasupplicant/linux, other than the fact that Ubuntu has the settings specified twice + there is unmentioned Android config delta [17:35] Mirv: are you saying I forgot to re-add the android crap in changelog? [17:36] looks to me like it's there [17:36] alkisg: thanks [17:38] Tthank _you_ :) [17:46] Noskcaj, qqwing accepted in -proposed [17:47] cyphermox: Thanks for packaging. :) I suppose it's too late to mention it in the changelog, but would you mind leaving a comment on bug 1370245? [17:47] bug 1370245 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) "wpa_supplicant version 2.2 available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370245 [18:01] cyphermox: the section stating remaining changes in debian/config/wpasupplicant/linux from Debian mentions the two options that are double stated in that file but does not mention the CONFIG_ANDROID_HAL=y which is the only actual delta in that config [18:02] - debian/config/wpasupplicant/linux: enable CONFIG_ANDROID_HAL. [18:03] cyphermox: I mean, oh, right, it's up there. then the later mention is just unneeded + the config file should be cleaned since the delta is actually now this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11994721/ [18:03] nah [18:03] *bah [18:04] so CONFIG_P2P and CONFIG_AP are repeated in Ubuntu's version [18:06] Mirv: how about that. Feel free to clean it up if you want to [19:05] jjohansen: Hi :) [19:06] hjd: hello [19:06] jjohansen: Sorry for the random ping, but I saw bug 1481039 and wondered whether the linux-lts-backport-maverick and -natty tasks are included for completeness, since they don't seem to be part of any current Ubuntu release. [19:06] bug 1481039 in linux-manta (Ubuntu Wily) "CVE-2015-5697" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481039 [19:07] hjd: its actually because I need to do some updates to the tooling we use so we can drop those [19:11] ok :) [19:44] desktop updated to wily-proposed + landing-043. seems to work again \o/ [19:46] doko_: Impressive. [19:47] oh, they fixed the arm64 FTBFS of $package [19:47] SHIP IT. [19:48] apt-get dist-upgrade removes gnome-control-center, but you can install it again. only thing missing is aptitude [19:51] Logan, Would you mind checking the sponsors queue for stuff before you merge? I had a finished merge for light-locker waiting, so there was a bit of an overlap of work. That said, i should have asked you if i could merge it [19:52] doko_: If you can get an easily understandable list of work to be done then I can help out tomorrow [19:52] like 'rename these packages' or 'rebuild/fix for these transitions' [19:54] I'm trying, need to prepare for travel tomorrow as well [19:54] I mean, you could starting to rebuild stuff for icu and boost in main [19:55] I also don't want to clash/duplicate [19:55] so some pad/wiki would be nice [19:55] Laney, coordinate with slangasek; I think I won't do much tomorrow [20:28] cjwatson: shouldn't the fakesyncs be synced automatically? [20:33] cjwatson: nvm, due to mismatch tarballs isn't possible, but I think fakesyncs should be on MoM visible... [20:33] correct me if I'm wrong [21:45] cyphermox, you still involved with libcolumbus? could you have a look at the ftbfs? === doko_ is now known as doko [21:55] Noskcaj, pyicu 1.8 ftbfs with ICU 55. updated to 1.9.2 [22:09] doko, I'll update it in debian python svn today [22:10] ta [22:25] robert_ancell: Hey, do you know of anyone (perhaps you?) who could verify the SRU for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1410801 ? [22:25] Launchpad bug 1410801 in HWE Next "[AMD Richland + Topaz XT ] gpu-manager generated xorg.conf is not compatible with switchable graphics" [Medium,Confirmed] [22:29] infinity, I don't have any AMD hardware, sorry [23:39] go 1.5 prep feels like http://media.giphy.com/media/MRUj8R8SMWlIk/giphy.gif today [23:57] mwhudson: You keep getting attacked by a vicious cat? [23:57] not entirely what i was trying to convey, no