[05:44] <wolflander> ok accepted
[06:52] <jmereis> Would this be the best room to try to get help installing Xubuntu alongside Windows 10? I'm having some difficulties.
[06:58] <Noskcaj> What's the issue jmereis?
[06:59] <jmereis> It does not give me the 'install alongside' option.  It doesn't seem to be aware that there is a Windows installation.
[07:00] <jmereis> There is also a warning about UEFI, saying that it can be forced but that I should not do that if I want to still boot my other OS (my mobo is set to Legacy + UEFI, which I suspect is what it's referring to)
[07:01] <jmereis> I have 2x HDD's.  I would like, if possible, to install xubuntu on the secondary drive - there is already a ~300GB chunk of unused space on it.
[07:02] <unix-freak> Just go to BIOS Legacy OS Options and turn-off "Only-Boot Legacy-Specific OS" or Windows Specific OS ... <jmereis>
[07:03] <unix-freak> how can you promote a local domain server in ubuntu XFCE
[07:03] <jmereis> There is not an option that looks like that.  I'm not sure that would fix the issue of the xubuntu installer not recognizing the presence of windows / giving an install alongside option though, would it?
[07:04] <unix-freak> Are you trying to install it alongside windows on the same partition as windows is on?
[07:06] <jmereis> No, but I want to continue to be able to boot Windows.  The only other options I get really are to wipe my main drive, or 'something else' (manually set up partitions).
[07:12] <unix-freak> you should manually set-up partitions / for root /usr /swap and any others you want or just install on root / only so when you have it as a bootable UEFI option in bios,
[07:13] <unix-freak> you can boot into it and do a complete backup of it with a lbackup program. Do a full backup of root / and or any other dirs, and then delete the partitions,
[07:14] <unix-freak> reinstall the image with a wubi loader or Bart PE that has the option to use WUBI or LUBI as it would be called alongside Windows or Linux ...
[07:18] <unix-freak> Go to www.rmprepusb.com for the PE soft ...
[07:19] <unix-freak> search on Google for PE with WUBI to find out how to create linux installation as an executable to run in Windows that can boot in the WINBOOTLDR
[07:20] <unix-freak> any answers on how to create a local domain in xubuntu, i know you can do it in debian
[07:26] <Lunario> does "not commercially supported by Canonical" mean no amazon spying on xubuntu? :)
[08:17] <jmereis> So for what it's worth.
[08:18] <jmereis> The problem was simply that UEFI USB was higher than USB in my boot order, and my USB stick could be booted as either.
[09:31] <auscompgeek> why didn't you just set up Windows as UEFI in the first place to avoid all the pain?
[09:31] <auscompgeek> UEFI is a lot less painful to set up than a legacy BIOS dual-boot.
[09:32] <auscompgeek> oh, they left.
[11:10] <chrisco97> Hello :)
[11:10] <chrisco97> I have just installed Xubuntu 15.04 and have a bit of a problem.
[11:11] <chrisco97> The common problem people had with 14.04's screensaver is the problem I am experiencing now, in 15.04.
[11:11] <cfhowlett> chrisco97, xscreensaver has been known to conflict with lightdm.  in fact, xubuntu recommends disabling...your choice
[11:12] <chrisco97> I actually am not sure I meant screensaver.
[11:12] <chrisco97> I am not sure what it is exactly...
[11:12] <chrisco97> The login screen when I open the lid of my netbook?
[11:12] <chrisco97> It isn't showing when I open the lid after shutting it.
[11:13] <chrisco97> It does if I leave the setting in the power manager as lock screen - this does not however turn the computer off like I want it to. I do not want my computer to run when I shut it.
[11:13] <chrisco97> When I set it to suspend, shut it, and then re-open it, it is just a black screen.
[11:13] <cfhowlett> chrisco97, not login screen.  check your power manager settings > Actions > When laptop lid is closed ...
[11:13] <chrisco97> Just like the problem I had along with several others in 14.04
[11:14] <chrisco97> I set that to "suspend" and it causes the problem
[11:14] <chrisco97> If I leave it as lock screen, it works, but I want it to shut off the computer. Not just lock the screen.
[11:15] <chrisco97> I set it to suspend in the power manager so it does that, but it doesn't show the login screen after opening. Just a black screen.
[11:15] <cfhowlett> chrisco97, you can shutdown when on battery
[11:51] <chrisco97> I am not sure what to do to fix this problem.
[11:51] <chrisco97> I am not even sure I know what is causing the problem. haha
[13:34] <nopcode> hey
[13:35] <nopcode> the lightdm-gtk-greeter can't find libX11.so on my xubuntu
[13:35] <nopcode> so i dont get a login screen
[13:35] <nopcode> starting any X11 app from the console as a regular use wont find libX11.so
[13:35] <nopcode> as root, it will. namely "sudo startx" works.
[13:35] <nopcode> what's the reason for that?
[13:35] <holstein> nopcode: when did that happen? did you add a ppa? or, upgrade?
[13:38] <nopcode> i dont really know
[13:38] <nopcode> i switched monitor setups
[13:38] <nopcode> then i didnt get a login
[13:39] <nopcode> then i tried lots of stuff, including installing the official nvidia driver (it has an intel builtin card and an nvidia quadro card)
[13:39] <nopcode> i just did a reinstall ob libx11 now it's complaining about missing libxcb.....
[13:39] <holstein> id say, thats the trick..
[13:40] <holstein> are you up to date with upgrades? i would try, even from tty, if necessary, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. then, i would share that *exact* complaint message
[13:42] <nopcode> well
[13:42] <nopcode> whats the official way to regenerate the linker ache
[13:42] <nopcode> cache
[13:42] <nopcode> maybe thats the issue
[13:42] <holstein> what has broken the linking?
[13:44] <nopcode> i dont know :(
[13:44] <nopcode> i just need to fix this ASAP
[13:44] <nopcode> costs us money.
[13:44] <holstein> xubuntu is free of cost.. though, i understand you are having an issue
[13:45] <holstein> i would personally, try and get back to whatever state you were in when things were working.. whatever hardware configuration.. and i would look and see if, the hardware is switching from intel to nvidia, etc, due to the change of monitor, or whatever
[13:45] <holstein> i would then, try and isolate my user config.. i would also consider using my installation iso that i know worked with the hardware to check that the monitor works as i expect.. the new monitor
[13:46] <nopcode> well
[13:46] <nopcode> its not that
[13:46] <nopcode> its actually not finding libraries
[13:46] <nopcode> already narrowed it down
[13:46] <nopcode> as root it finds the x libs
[13:47] <nopcode> as a user it doesnt
[13:47] <nopcode> i assume the gtk greeter runs as non-root
[13:47] <nopcode> is there a way to reinstall the whole Xorg / desktop system?
[13:47] <holstein> cool.. you can simply try another user then, a fresh user account.. that will help you see if that is indeed the issue, and also, how to replicate that in your current user
[13:47] <nopcode> apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop will not reinstall the dependencies right?
[13:47] <nopcode> i can try as nobody..
[13:47] <holstein> you can purge what you like, and reinstall what you like.. but, i dont think that is going to address whatever the issue is
[13:50] <nopcode> well
[13:50] <nopcode> how do i reinstall the desktop system
[13:50] <nopcode> because
[13:50] <nopcode> 1) it doesnt find a lib
[13:50] <nopcode> 2) i reinstall that lib
[13:51] <nopcode> 3) it doenst find another lib
[13:51] <nopcode> it started with libX11 then libcairo then libpixman something....
[13:51] <holstein> i would simply purge what i want, and reinstall what i want.. but, you shouldnt be running anything as root that would/could break what you are describing.. so, i dont think that will address your issue
[13:52] <holstein> you can share what the *exact* error messages are, and the conditions that are getting you to them, and a volunteer may be able to better assist
[13:59] <nopcode> we gave up
[13:59] <nopcode> guy has to use windows
[13:59] <nopcode> i told you
[13:59] <nopcode> no x11 app can find libX11.so
[13:59] <nopcode> not even xterm
[13:59] <nopcode> UNLESS ran as root
[14:00] <holstein> well, "guy" can choose to, for sure.. and may have a better experience, since there is official support
[14:00] <nopcode> i thought the ld.so config for root was usually _more_ restricted than the one for normal users
[14:00] <nopcode> here it seems the other way around
[14:00] <holstein> those dual GPU's can be tricky.. what i do is, disable the nvidia portion, when possible..
[14:00] <nopcode> you surely mean the intel portion
[14:00] <nopcode> intel gpus suck
[14:01] <holstein> i said what i mean, and share experiences when i want to provide linux support..
[14:01] <nopcode> i hate the very idea of a dual-gpu setup it just screams violation of KISS
[14:02] <holstein> i dont hate it.. i just try and purchase hardware with linux support either in mind, or, explicitly promised..
[14:05] <nopcode> well
[14:05] <nopcode> this is a dell workstation
[14:05] <nopcode> and it has worked
[14:05] <nopcode> it just stopped working after connecting another monitor and disconneting the other two
[14:06] <nopcode> imho for a desktop machine linux shouldnt even offer using the builtin adapter if there's a discrete pcie gpu
[14:06] <nopcode> it doesnt make any sense
[14:06] <holstein> nopcode: right.. so, in the future, i may choose to image, or backup the OS before installing hardware/software.. so that i can easily recover from an issue, or, from a hard drive failure, since they all fail
[14:07] <holstein> since, we are not using supported drivers, and software, lots of things may see as though they dont make sense..
[14:24] <nopcode> well what are your options if you want to do serious graphics programming?
[14:24] <nopcode> either use a proprietrary driver or.. use windows
[14:24] <holstein> nopcode: sure.. and, thats what i do, typically. but, the issue is, nothing about linux is preventing that company that is creating the drivers and hardware from supporting your work flow..
[14:25] <ScoDal> hello again my xubunters
[14:25] <holstein> so, we either have to search for companies that support what we are trying to do, or experiement, and expect compromises.. since, its not "breakage" that a thing that promises windows support doenst work in linux.. linux is completely open, for anyone to support.. and we may have to be pro-active in voting in the market to help support that happening
[14:26] <holstein> nopcode: id say, if you (or your friend) is having issues, and there is a dual GPU involved, thats likely the issue.. feel free and /join #xubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[14:27] <ScoDal> Does xubuntu not support multi core? Or is it a case by case hardware scenario?
[14:28] <holstein> ScoDal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82562/is-ubuntu-optimized-for-multicore-cpus sums up my understandings..
[14:30] <ScoDal> Excellent, ah also just now realizing you said dual GPU
[14:30] <holstein> ScoDal: that was before you got here..
[14:31] <ScoDal> ah gotcha :)
[14:32] <nopcode> colleague not friend... remember i mentioned losing money ;)
[14:33] <holstein> nopcode: sure.. and if you have a support question for the volunteers in the channel, feel free and ask. otherwise, /join me in #xubuntu-offtopic for more discussion.. thanks!
[15:36] <kulelu88> Hello. How do I create a window-manager-based shortcut?
[15:40] <drc> kulelu88: Have you looked at Settings>Keyboard>Applications Shortcuts?
[15:42] <kulelu88> drc: if you open the thunar file manager and press: ctrl + shift + n , you will get a new folder. I want to do something similar for a new file
[15:42] <drc> in Thunar specifically?
[15:43] <kulelu88> yeah, the process of right-click and scrolling to a new file makes my workflow difficult
[15:44] <drc> I suspect Edit>Custom Actions won't do what you want?  Other than that, I'm out of ideas.
[15:44] <drc> But I now see what you want to do...if that's any consolation :)
[15:46] <kulelu88> drc: How do I do this in xubuntu: " enable "changable menu accelerators" in xfce4-appearance-settings -> last tab and after this, hover over the entry you want to assign the shortcut and then press the shortcut" ?
[15:46] <drc> no idea
[15:47] <drc> above my paygrade
[15:47] <kulelu88> hehe
[15:47]  * drc thinks being a peon does have it's advantages
[16:13] <knome> kulelu88, what in it doesn't make sense for you?
[16:13] <kulelu88> knome: I found the issue via #xfce . Turns out a bug report has already been filed for it
[16:14] <knome> kulelu88, can you explain me what you are actually trying to do?
[16:15] <kulelu88> knome: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5115
[16:18] <knome> kulelu88, ok, good luck with that
[16:20] <drc> kulelu88: I'd start here (seeing as how it's "wontfix")  http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/custom-actions
[16:20] <drc> And no, I haven't done this for many years.
[16:20] <knome> i quickly tried it with custom actions too, and i don't think it works with that either
[16:41] <kulelu88> why is xubuntu 14.04 about 7 versions behind on thunar?
[16:42] <knome> it was released over a year ago.
[16:42] <drc> Probably because it was released about 12 months ago?
[16:42] <kulelu88> so when xubuntu does updates, certain things aren't updated as well?
[16:43] <drc> knome, you're up :)
[16:43] <knome> no backports of newer software versions are made unless there is something seriously wrong with the old version
[16:43] <knome> if you want the latest and greatest software, use the latest and greatest xubuntu version
[16:44] <knome> (or another distribution where software is even more bleeding-edge)
[16:44] <knome> PPA's are also one possibility
[16:44] <kulelu88> I need stability, but i guess any source-code changes I make will have to be for the latest thunar version
[16:45] <knome> of course you can do the changes against an older version too, but even then, you lose the support for thunar (and potentially other components) so it doesn't really matter
[16:46] <kulelu88> well it makes sense to do it for latest and stable. everything in between shouldn't matter
[16:47] <knome> in most cases yes
[16:47] <knome> anyway, i'm off
[16:47] <knome> good luck with hacking
[16:47] <kulelu88> thanks
[16:49] <ScoDal> This sparks something I've been wondering for a while. What is the best way to upgrade to latest greatest without a total reinstall of the OS?
[16:49] <kulelu88> ScoDal: IIRC, sudo apt-get dist upgrade?
[16:49] <ScoDal> nice, I'm gonna write that down
[16:50] <cfhowlett> ScoDal, sdo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade to the latest for currently installed distro.
[16:50] <kulelu88> Just confirm by asking in a channel like #ubuntu
[16:50] <ScoDal> confirm what?
[16:50] <kulelu88> The command
[16:50] <kulelu88> cfhowlett: confirmed though. so you're good to go
[16:51] <ScoDal> haha, trying to commit things to memory so I can be awesome like you all
[16:51] <kulelu88> ScoDal: I wouldn't do a dist upgrade like that though
[16:51] <kulelu88> something always breaks
[16:52] <ScoDal> Grr well that's the whole point of doing it that way lol so as not to lose all time spent on customizing things to work
[16:52] <kulelu88> ScoDal: always back your stuff up though
[16:53] <ScoDal> Right, so you feel clean install is really the best route for least headache?
[16:53] <kulelu88> thats my opinion. I don't move to the latest versions though. stable works for me
[16:55] <cfhowlett> lts only.  fewer headaches, less heartache
[16:55] <drc> ScoDal: If you are updating from LTS to LTS, then yes I'd reimstall (having save all my config files so I can drop them in...but that might have it's own problems).  From point to point release than I'd upgrade.
[16:56] <drc> Many more things change in 2 years than 6 months :)
[16:56] <ScoDal> Very interesting, I do believe I'm on LTS Trusty Tahr at the moment
[16:57] <kulelu88> don't forget, systemd is now in the new versions as well
[16:57] <ScoDal> is that how you find what version you're on real quick?
[16:58] <Comstock> lsb_release -a
[16:58] <Comstock> in term
[16:58] <Comstock> that is my quickest way lol
[16:59] <Comstock> you could also install sysinfo , it gives more detailed info plus info about your box
[16:59] <drc> inxi -S works also
[17:00] <ScoDal> I knew I should have left my xubuntu laptop on at home so I could vnc into it
[17:00] <ScoDal> Okay I put all those lines in a txt file on my flash drive :)
[17:26] <xubuntu70w> I forgot my password how to fix this problem
[17:28] <Comstock> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[17:50] <xubuntu07i> Hey guys, I was wondering whether to go with Xubuntu or Ubuntu, as of now I´m going with Xubuntu because I like the interface more, it appears to be more customizable and it uses less RAM, anything I need to know about Ubuntu that might sounds appealing ? (instead of Xubuntu, that is)
[17:51] <pleia2> maybe you should ask the Ubuntu folks :) I just use Xubuntu, so I don't know...
[17:52] <xubuntu07i> Do you like it?
[17:53] <xubuntu07i> I tried Manjaro yesterday and I didn't like it
[17:53] <xubuntu07i> too much terminal stuff going on, even basic installations
[17:53] <pleia2> yes, I'm a member of the Xubuntu team and have been using it for years
[17:53] <xubuntu07i> sweet
[17:53] <xubuntu07i> Can I download stuff from the net and install it?
[17:53] <pleia2> you might want to join #xubuntu-offtopic if you want more general chat about distros, this really is a support-focused channel
[17:53] <xubuntu07i> oh
[17:53] <xubuntu07i> my bad
[17:53] <pleia2> I only use the ubuntu software center (or apt-get on the command line) to install software
[17:54] <pleia2> if you randomly download stuff off the internet you never really know what you're getting
[17:54] <xubuntu07i> Well, thanks for your help!
[17:54] <pleia2> sure, good luck
[17:54] <xubuntu07i> lol I tried minecraft from the official site and the thing just didnt install
[17:54] <xubuntu07i> I'll switch to offtopic now
[18:03] <Greem> Can you recommend a simple software for bulk editing photos for the Web? I need to set the Bulk Edit ( reduce , reduce the depth ... ) I'd prefer a graphical GUI .
[18:10] <drc> Greem: While you may get an answer here (I personally have no idea), I'd try one of the other channels that actually deal with this sort of thing.  Try searching for "photo" as a start.
[18:11] <knome> Greem, i don't think there is many GUI software that do that to begin with... you would be best off with imagemagick (CLI) tbh
[18:11] <knome> especially if you have a set of actions you *know* you want to do
[18:12] <mrkramps> imagemagick +1
[18:12] <mrkramps> and maybe phatch
[18:13] <mrkramps> which has a gui
[18:13] <kulelu88> I think imagemagick has a python lib, so scripting a solution would be easy
[18:13] <kulelu88> or easier than with C/C++
[18:13] <Greem> :)
[18:13] <knome> kulelu88, or you can just create a bash script that does imagemagick CLI calls, which is much easier than python
[18:13] <Greem> Thx, try imagemagick
[18:13] <drc> s/may/will :)
[18:14] <mrkramps> btw. alternatively there's also exactimage which similar to imagemagick
[18:14] <kulelu88> knome: it depends how deep the requirements are. but yes, bash would work also
[18:14] <knome> kulelu88, of course it depends, but for the vast majority of use cases (and for a person that prefers GUI to CLI), bash will be easier and can accomplish what they want
[18:32] <frostyfrog> [12:30:44] [User: frostyfrog] I actually came here to ask if anyone knew how to get a Xubuntu VM to respect the window size of virt-manager (and share the cursor with the host. capturing the cursor is annoying)
[18:40] <kulelu88> frostyfrog: there is a tool/setting on virtualbox that automatically captures the mouse when you scroll over the window of the VM.
[18:42] <frostyfrog> kulelu88: I'm using the KVM/Qemu/libvirt combo (with the virt-manager frontend) instead of virtualbox. That's what I meant by "virt-manager"
[18:42] <kulelu88> aah i don't know enough to help there
[18:45] <holstein> frostyfrog: from what i read, KVM doesnt have a seamless mode support like that
[18:48] <frostyfrog> holstein: My CentOS 6 VM and Windows 7 VM (using Redhat's QXL driver) actually do work seamlessly as far as resizing, mouse pointer integration, and syncing the clipboard goes.
[18:48] <holstein> i think the tool you are using is more geared toward server/headless/noGUI virtual machines.. i think if you try virtualbox, for example, you'll find desktop OS support is a focus
[18:49] <holstein> frostyfrog: centOS is relevant, in that scenario. you can look and see what drivers are in use, and supporting the fearures you are seeking..
[18:51] <holstein> are you using KVM? or what?
[18:51] <frostyfrog> holstein: Yeah, though the performance is poor and it doesn't allow for remote access (sometimes I need to work from home, and vnc isn't an option for me). I'm currently trying to install xserver-xorg-video-qxl-lts-utopic and upgrade my system. I'll see how that goes.
[18:54] <frostyfrog> holstein: KVM is the underlying virtualization technology built into the Linux kernel (Virtualbox doesn't use it). QEMU sits on top of KVM as the actual VM manager. Libvirtd abstracts multiple VM technologies into a common API, and virt-manager makes all these technologies 10x easier to use.
[18:55] <MethylatorX> Hello
[18:55] <holstein> frostyfrog: sure.., and im only trying to figure out what you are using, to assist.. you can also always try the main #ubuntu channel, or the server channel..
[18:55] <MethylatorX> i have an issue here
[18:55] <ScoDal> share it
[18:56] <MethylatorX> where and how to control gpu fans AMD Catalyst Installed but there is no option for overclocks and fans
[18:56] <MethylatorX> also how to restore repos
[18:56] <MethylatorX> i missed up some
[18:57] <MethylatorX> messed*
[18:57] <holstein> i like the sources list generator..
[18:57] <holstein> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:58] <holstein> MethylatorX: you may not be provided tools from the driver that allow you to control the settings you are trying to control via linux..
[18:58] <holstein> !amd
[18:58] <holstein> !ati
[18:58] <holstein> i always refer to that, or a more general linux source, and try and find the facts about the driver in relation to my specific hardware
[19:21] <ScoDal> hey Obrien
[19:22] <ObrienDave> *waves*
[19:22] <ScoDal> :)
[19:23] <ScoDal> So I was pondering security just now.. Can xubuntu see hidden Ms Shares?
[19:23] <ObrienDave> i don't know
[19:23] <ScoDal> I cant see them from my mac, yosemite
[19:24] <knome> ScoDal, if windows hides them, why could linux see them?
[19:24] <ObrienDave> you might try asking in #ubuntu-hardened
[19:24] <ScoDal> Because Linux doesnt always seem to play by Windows rules
[19:25] <ObrienDave> linux almost never plays by MS rules
[19:25] <ScoDal> Joined, are they are a security chan?
[19:25] <knome> fwiw, the ubuntu channels do not share hacking advice; not saying that you are asking for one, but this gets close
[19:25] <ScoDal> No I am trying to avoid being hacked
[19:26] <ScoDal> I use hidden MS shares
[19:26] <knome> but this doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu security.
[19:26] <knome> ask ##windows or sth
[19:26] <ObrienDave> more like hardening ubuntu against break ins
[19:26] <ScoDal> Sorry was just thinking about certain people I know that use Linux, what they might be able to accomplish if they cracked my Wifi
[19:26] <knome> that's a different thing.
[19:27] <Unit193> You don't have security through obscurity, make sure to put a good password on the shares if you really want to keep them priviate, but must use SMB.
[19:28] <ScoDal> Perfect, that's what I suspected but was not sure. Thank you
[19:29] <Unit193> (That is to say, if Windows doesn't broadcast it then sure Linux won't "see" it, but it's still a bad idea to rely on that alone.)
[19:30] <ScoDal> I am currently relying on that alone. I need to do some more research increase my security at home and work a lil more I think
[19:35] <kulelu88> Knowing someone is going to hack your wifi is more of a social than security thing. you need to estimate who might have the capacity to do it
[19:36] <Unit193> http://serverfault.com/questions/425931/why-are-hidden-windows-shares-not-really-hidden
[20:01] <MumblyPhuck> awesome idea to include an irc link while installing xubunutu. . .
[20:02] <MumblyPhuck> stop yelling at me
[20:11] <Unit193> Shouting?
[20:12] <MumblyPhuck> reinstalling because too drunk to remember password
[20:21] <xubuntu98w> '
[20:21] <xubuntu98w> alguien en español?
[20:21] <knome> !es | xubuntu98w
[20:23] <xubuntu98w> hello, i´m unstall xubuntu on hpmini but wlan don{t installed or not run,
[20:24] <mrkramps> xubuntu98w, we need full specifications of this hpmini or the exact wifi chipset used
[20:24] <mrkramps> xubuntu98w, you know how to use a terminal and pastebin?
[20:27] <xubuntu98w> with rfkill list only show me bloetooth , and how can i find specifications exact into xubuntu
[20:27] <knome> xubuntu98w, i think you might be better asking on #ubuntu-es
[20:28] <xubuntu98w> ok !!!
[20:30] <mrkramps> xubuntu98w, has you checked in settings if there are any additional drivers available for your device?
[20:31] <xubuntu98w> yes but nothing , no apper
[20:33] <mrkramps> xubuntu98w, check chipset with:$ lspci | grep Network
[20:34] <kulelu88> its weird how small xfce dev work is, but theres like thousands of people using xfce
[20:35] <knome> kulelu88, you're very welcome to participate in development
[20:36] <mrkramps> coding's such a difficult task :\
[20:37] <kulelu88> but afaik, xubuntu and xfce aren't together. they are 2 different projects
[20:37] <knome> true, but there's a lot of overlap.
[20:37] <xubuntu98w> Broadcom Corporation BC4312--11B/g LP-PHY(rev 01)
[20:41] <mrkramps> xubuntu98w, for this chipset there should be two additional drivers listed in "Settings" → "Additional Drivers"
[20:41] <mrkramps> are you sure nothing's shown there?
[20:45] <xubuntu98w> nothing say= driver  avaible
[20:46] <mrkramps> xubuntu98w, would you mind checking the hardware switch on the side of your netbook?
[20:48] <xubuntu98w> yes, only have  bluetooth switch and it.s on
[20:49] <mrkramps> is this device connected to the internet via lan or something?
[20:49] <mrkramps> --lan ++ethernet
[23:36] <nicklas_> yo