| === ahoneybun changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Paddle Club: http://jriddell.org/2015/07/31/kubuntu-paddleboard-club/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Plasma Mobile images: http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/ | congratulations to sgclark on Akademy Award | ||
| === palasso_ is now known as palasso | ||
| sitter | Riddell: you forgot to unpause ci | 07:07 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:45 |
| sitter | Riddell: you installed a .so symlink in a bin package http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kglobalaccel.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=66d2f3a81704cb14731377199290e27e952b3961 | 07:48 |
| === TuxMario is now known as TuxMario_ | ||
| sitter | Riddell: didn't we take notes at the kubuntu bof? | 09:14 |
| sitter | by we I mean someone other than me :P | 09:14 |
| === 20WABTS2H is now known as TuxDeTreb | ||
| sitter | Riddell: kjs might fail on i386 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213546641/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.kjs_5.12.0%2Bgit20150804.0918%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 09:26 |
| sitter | Riddell: !!!!!!!!! | 09:48 |
| Riddell | morning sitter | 09:49 |
| sitter | Riddell: backlog plz. kubuntu bof notes | 09:49 |
| Riddell | looking at k3b is on my todo | 09:49 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| blaze | just upgraded to wily. well, it seems that pure qt apps doesn't understand they're on kde anymore | 10:15 |
| soee | what ? :D | 10:27 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: will you test digikam 4.12 on wily, its in my PPA? | 10:30 |
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: hi rick | 10:40 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:13 |
| blaze | soee: wait, i'll think how to put it in a simple way, for stupid people | 12:31 |
| blaze | kde file dialog is not working in qt4 apps | 12:33 |
| ahoneybun | add a description for your ppa clivejo :) | 12:35 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: a description? | 13:02 |
| ahoneybun | yea tell us what is in the pppa | 13:02 |
| ahoneybun | I know we can look at the LP page | 13:02 |
| ahoneybun | but still | 13:02 |
| ahoneybun | I'm also installing digikam | 13:03 |
| ahoneybun | I see a new build of kdeconnect as well | 13:03 |
| clivejo | oh the kdeconnect is just an experiment | 13:05 |
| clivejo | it doesnt fix the file transter problem | 13:05 |
| ahoneybun | well it was insatlled | 13:05 |
| ahoneybun | well it started :) | 13:08 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: have you a PPA? | 13:11 |
| ahoneybun | I have a ppa | 13:11 |
| clivejo | where? | 13:11 |
| clivejo | oh found you | 13:11 |
| ahoneybun | yep | 13:11 |
| ahoneybun | kubuntu-settings is the only useful one atm | 13:12 |
| clivejo | you keep a separate archive for each? | 13:12 |
| ahoneybun | kinda a messup on my end | 13:13 |
| * sitter preps CI for apps 15.08 | 13:13 | |
| sitter | Riddell: merging kubuntu_unstable into kubuntu_stable for 15.08 | 13:13 |
| sitter | also no one volunteered to package the new kf5 packages :( | 13:14 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: do you know how muon updater works? | 13:14 |
| clivejo | where the packaging is for it? | 13:14 |
| ahoneybun | nope | 13:15 |
| sitter | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/muon.git/ | 13:15 |
| clivejo | need to add a dep on python-future | 13:15 |
| sitter | clivejo: why? | 13:16 |
| ahoneybun | how do I force apt to upgrade packages? | 13:17 |
| ahoneybun | it sees 3 but then I run apt upgrade and it does nothing | 13:17 |
| clivejo | I was getting dist release updates nofications | 13:17 |
| sitter | that has nothing to do with python-future | 13:18 |
| clivejo | Im on wily and it was telling me that there was a new release | 13:18 |
| ahoneybun | damn it | 13:18 |
| clivejo | after conversation with Riddell he suggested installing python-future | 13:18 |
| clivejo | and the issue has been resloved | 13:18 |
| clivejo | muon-updater doesnt use python scripts? | 13:19 |
| sitter | yes it does | 13:19 |
| sitter | that script does not use python future though | 13:19 |
| clivejo | strange :/ | 13:19 |
| sitter | not necessarily | 13:19 |
| clivejo | the issue has been resolved | 13:19 |
| sitter | if you see the bug I am thinking about it is purely timing dependent | 13:19 |
| sitter | so it might not appear 300 times in a row, might reappear at the 301st start though | 13:20 |
| clivejo | this bug was almost all the time | 13:20 |
| clivejo | kept displaying a nofication | 13:20 |
| * ahoneybun might have broken his install | 13:21 | |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: how did you do that?!? | 13:22 |
| ahoneybun | I added your ppa lol | 13:22 |
| ahoneybun | and then removed it | 13:22 |
| clivejo | :O | 13:22 |
| ahoneybun | I removed the ppa but I can't update | 13:22 |
| ahoneybun | well downgrade to the official kdeconnect | 13:22 |
| ahoneybun | still on your version | 13:23 |
| sitter | clivejo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349787#c4 | 13:23 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 349787 in updater "the update center shows that there is a new kubuntu upgrade when I have the newest kubuntu OS" [Normal,Confirmed] | 13:23 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: use ppa purge | 13:23 |
| ahoneybun | muon always pops up for me | 13:23 |
| sitter | clivejo: what you could do is remove python-future. then run /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker see what happens if it complains about future being missing there is a bug in one of the python libraries used, if not it is simply a timing issue | 13:24 |
| sitter | actually, it probably is a timing issue eitherway it might jsut be that if an underlying dependency problem in python makes the python helper return quickly the condition outlined in the bug comment happens | 13:24 |
| clivejo | sitter: <Riddell> clivejo: what does python /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker; echo $? give you? | 13:24 |
| clivejo | it was saying "Could not load list of meta packages: No module named configparser" | 13:25 |
| sitter | right so it was tripping over missing deps, made the script return early, triggering the problem outlined in the comment | 13:26 |
| clivejo | I installed python-future and it now returns a ! | 13:26 |
| clivejo | 1 | 13:26 |
| sitter | not sure how future relates to configparser though :P | 13:27 |
| clivejo | beyond me ! | 13:27 |
| clivejo | its magic | 13:27 |
| sitter | clivejo: locate configparser |grep python | 13:28 |
| sitter | also | 13:29 |
| sitter | grep -ri configparser /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UpdateManager/ | 13:29 |
| clivejo | https://paste.kde.org/piw9cupl5 | 13:30 |
| clivejo | added both to that paste | 13:31 |
| sitter | /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/future/moves/configparser.py | 13:32 |
| sitter | clivejo: I only see one in the paste | 13:32 |
| clivejo | reload | 13:32 |
| clivejo | I revised it | 13:32 |
| sitter | I did :( | 13:32 |
| sitter | clivejo: surely the revision has a new id | 13:32 |
| clivejo | https://paste.kde.org/pijochkul | 13:32 |
| clivejo | sorry sitter didnt realise that | 13:32 |
| sitter | righto | 13:33 |
| clivejo | any clues? | 13:33 |
| sitter | clivejo: python3-update-manager needs a dependency on python-future | 13:33 |
| sitter | eh | 13:33 |
| sitter | clivejo: python3-update-manager needs a dependency on python3-future | 13:33 |
| sitter | python3-future apparently contains /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/future/moves/configparser.py which is apparently used by /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py: import configparser | 13:33 |
| clivejo | is python-future just a meta package? | 13:34 |
| sitter | clivejo: did you install python-future or python3-future? | 13:34 |
| clivejo | just python-future | 13:35 |
| sitter | that makes no sense now :P | 13:35 |
| * sitter spins up a container | 13:35 | |
| clivejo | LOL | 13:35 |
| sitter | at any rate, whatever dependency it brought in... the problem is in some library not muon. muon's releasechecker only uses the UpdateManager module | 13:36 |
| ahoneybun | seems like a restart got it back to working order so far | 13:38 |
| sitter | clivejo: I can't reproduce this | 13:42 |
| clivejo | strange | 13:43 |
| * sitter purges and tries without recommends | 13:43 | |
| clivejo | must be my install | 13:43 |
| sitter | clivejo: I think installing python packages sometimes compiles the modules so it doesn't have to interpret all of it all the time, perhaps something there went wrong | 13:44 |
| sitter | thing is.. configparser.py is also in python minimal and that should always be installed | 13:44 |
| sitter | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12000167/ :( | 13:52 |
| sitter | nope | 13:54 |
| sitter | clivejo: can't reproduce it | 13:54 |
| sitter | had minimal dep set installed, releasechecker fails as it is not critical functionality. installed python3-update-manager works as expected | 13:54 |
| sitter | so whatever went wrong for you it doesn't appear to be an actual problem in the packaging | 13:54 |
| === palasso_ is now known as palasso | ||
| sgclark | ugh not feeling well at all, despite 13 hours of sleep. | 17:42 |
| lordievader | sgclark: :( | 17:45 |
| clivejo | jetlag? | 17:48 |
| ahoneybun | sgclark: you body needs to recover from jetlag and other tihings | 17:50 |
| ahoneybun | *your | 17:50 |
| sgclark | yeah, and I ended up with sore throat and a cold :( | 17:51 |
| ahoneybun | oh noews | 17:52 |
| clivejo | probably the old stale re-circualted air on the phone | 17:54 |
| clivejo | plane | 17:54 |
| mamarley | Modern planes usually have HEPA air filtration and also quite a bit of air is brought in from outside. | 17:57 |
| mamarley | However, it is often very dry air, which can cause a sore throat and a runny nose. | 17:58 |
| Riddell | get lots of daylight to help with jet lag | 18:15 |
| * BluesKaj has jetlag from waking up too early these days | 18:18 | |
| clivejo | Riddell: where have you moved to? | 18:19 |
| Riddell | clivejo: sunny Scotland :) | 18:20 |
| Riddell | it was getting too hot in Barcelona | 18:20 |
| clivejo | is it as wet and windy as it is in Ireland? | 18:20 |
| clivejo | LOL from one extreme to the other | 18:20 |
| clivejo | Riddell: I tried to package digiKam 4.12 and its in my PPA, will you have a look see if I done it right? | 18:22 |
| ahoneybun | any slow issues on Wily Riddell? | 18:31 |
| ahoneybun | got a bit slow since I got bcak | 18:31 |
| Riddell | clivejo: yep it's on my todo for this evening thanks :) | 18:40 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: all good here | 18:40 |
| ahoneybun | damn it | 18:40 |
| ahoneybun | takes like 5 secs to click | 18:40 |
| ahoneybun | sometimes to type | 18:40 |
| ahoneybun | I wonder if it has to do with the staging-framework | 18:41 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Wily is fine for me. Even on the somewhat slow laptop. | 20:09 |
| ahoneybun | darn | 20:10 |
| Riddell | clivejo: digikam looking good, uploaded! can you update it in bzr? | 20:54 |
| clivejo | how do I do that? | 20:56 |
| Riddell | clivejo: bzr co bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/ | 21:16 |
| Riddell | copy in the new debian/ direcotory | 21:16 |
| Riddell | bzr diff | 21:16 |
| Riddell | bzr commit | 21:16 |
| yofel | he can't do that unless he's a member, so either he'll need a merge request or you have to commit | 21:19 |
| lordievader | Or he can become a member ;) | 21:20 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu member? | 21:20 |
| yofel | ofc, but "right now" isn't really managable :P | 21:20 |
| lordievader | True, true... But still ;) | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | anyone of us can do it for him no? | 21:21 |
| yofel | you still need council quorum | 21:23 |
| yofel | and he's been here for ~6 months? | 21:23 |
| ahoneybun | I meant to commit | 21:23 |
| yofel | ah right, that sure | 21:24 |
| yofel | that was more meant as a reminder for Riddell as he doesn't seem to remember that | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | sure | 21:24 |
| Riddell | I think he is a member of ~kubuntu-packagers | 21:24 |
| ahoneybun | he is | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | yellow belt for sure | 21:25 |
| ahoneybun | things are soo slowww | 21:26 |
| ahoneybun | on my system | 21:26 |
| valorie | sgclark: just saw you are sick | 21:27 |
| valorie | :( | 21:27 |
| sgclark | very :( | 21:27 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: Have you checked why that might be? | 21:27 |
| valorie | we want more kubuntu members and kubuntu devels! | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | things seem a bit better after removing staging-frameworks | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | lordievader: ^ | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | a ppa | 21:28 |
| valorie | there is still a council and still a group of kubuntu devels to grill new devels | 21:28 |
| ahoneybun | system76 still love us :) | 21:29 |
| valorie | sitter: we put the notes for the kubuntu BoF on the bottom of the Neon BoF | 21:29 |
| valorie | dear god I hate windows | 21:29 |
| valorie | but at least the visa is paid | 21:29 |
| valorie | now for the rest of the bills | 21:29 |
| lordievader | ahoneybun: First stop would be vmstat or atop I'd say ;) | 21:29 |
| ahoneybun | ewwww windows | 21:30 |
| * ahoneybun slides lordievader over to #kubuntu | 21:30 | |
| * valorie plunges back into the OS of darkness and dispair | 21:30 | |
| ahoneybun | no? | 21:30 |
| ahoneybun | not sure what vmstat is saying | 21:31 |
| lordievader | Hehe, thanks to my recent ram upgrade I forgot today that I had Windows running in the background as a vm... XD | 21:31 |
| ahoneybun | I have 8gbs | 21:31 |
| Riddell | clivejo: hum, not working https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/4:4.12.0-0ubuntu1 | 22:21 |
| clivejo | have to disable proposed | 22:22 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: lets have Canonical pay for a new hdd XD | 22:24 |
| Riddell | canonical won't, you can always try the ubuntu community fund, but probably not | 22:25 |
| ahoneybun | jokes of course | 22:25 |
| Riddell | hi TJ-! | 22:30 |
| Riddell | ooh frameworks 5.13 is here | 22:36 |
| valorie | weee, bills are paid | 22:38 |
| valorie | windows machine doing updates or something | 22:38 |
| * ahoneybun 's hard drive will die soon I think | 22:50 | |
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