=== ahoneybun changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Paddle Club: http://jriddell.org/2015/07/31/kubuntu-paddleboard-club/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Plasma Mobile images: http://kubuntu.plasma-mobile.org/ | congratulations to sgclark on Akademy Award === palasso_ is now known as palasso [07:07] Riddell: you forgot to unpause ci [07:45] Good morning. [07:48] Riddell: you installed a .so symlink in a bin package http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kglobalaccel.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=66d2f3a81704cb14731377199290e27e952b3961 === TuxMario is now known as TuxMario_ [09:14] Riddell: didn't we take notes at the kubuntu bof? [09:14] by we I mean someone other than me :P === 20WABTS2H is now known as TuxDeTreb [09:26] Riddell: kjs might fail on i386 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213546641/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.kjs_5.12.0%2Bgit20150804.0918%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:48] Riddell: !!!!!!!!! [09:49] morning sitter [09:49] Riddell: backlog plz. kubuntu bof notes [09:49] looking at k3b is on my todo === tazz_ is now known as tazz [10:15] just upgraded to wily. well, it seems that pure qt apps doesn't understand they're on kde anymore [10:27] what ? :D [10:30] ovidiu-florin: will you test digikam 4.12 on wily, its in my PPA? [10:40] sick_rimmit: hi rick [12:13] Hiyas all [12:31] soee: wait, i'll think how to put it in a simple way, for stupid people [12:33] kde file dialog is not working in qt4 apps [12:35] add a description for your ppa clivejo :) [13:02] ahoneybun: a description? [13:02] yea tell us what is in the pppa [13:02] I know we can look at the LP page [13:02] but still [13:03] I'm also installing digikam [13:03] I see a new build of kdeconnect as well [13:05] oh the kdeconnect is just an experiment [13:05] it doesnt fix the file transter problem [13:05] well it was insatlled [13:08] well it started :) [13:11] ahoneybun: have you a PPA? [13:11] I have a ppa [13:11] where? [13:11] oh found you [13:11] yep [13:12] kubuntu-settings is the only useful one atm [13:12] you keep a separate archive for each? [13:13] kinda a messup on my end [13:13] * sitter preps CI for apps 15.08 [13:13] Riddell: merging kubuntu_unstable into kubuntu_stable for 15.08 [13:14] also no one volunteered to package the new kf5 packages :( [13:14] ahoneybun: do you know how muon updater works? [13:14] where the packaging is for it? [13:15] nope [13:15] http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/muon.git/ [13:15] need to add a dep on python-future [13:16] clivejo: why? [13:17] how do I force apt to upgrade packages? [13:17] it sees 3 but then I run apt upgrade and it does nothing [13:17] I was getting dist release updates nofications [13:18] that has nothing to do with python-future [13:18] Im on wily and it was telling me that there was a new release [13:18] damn it [13:18] after conversation with Riddell he suggested installing python-future [13:18] and the issue has been resloved [13:19] muon-updater doesnt use python scripts? [13:19] yes it does [13:19] that script does not use python future though [13:19] strange :/ [13:19] not necessarily [13:19] the issue has been resolved [13:19] if you see the bug I am thinking about it is purely timing dependent [13:20] so it might not appear 300 times in a row, might reappear at the 301st start though [13:20] this bug was almost all the time [13:20] kept displaying a nofication [13:21] * ahoneybun might have broken his install [13:22] ahoneybun: how did you do that?!? [13:22] I added your ppa lol [13:22] and then removed it [13:22] :O [13:22] I removed the ppa but I can't update [13:22] well downgrade to the official kdeconnect [13:23] still on your version [13:23] clivejo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349787#c4 [13:23] KDE bug 349787 in updater "the update center shows that there is a new kubuntu upgrade when I have the newest kubuntu OS" [Normal,Confirmed] [13:23] ahoneybun: use ppa purge [13:23] muon always pops up for me [13:24] clivejo: what you could do is remove python-future. then run /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker see what happens if it complains about future being missing there is a bug in one of the python libraries used, if not it is simply a timing issue [13:24] actually, it probably is a timing issue eitherway it might jsut be that if an underlying dependency problem in python makes the python helper return quickly the condition outlined in the bug comment happens [13:24] sitter: clivejo: what does python /usr/share/libmuon/applicationsbackend/releasechecker; echo $? give you? [13:25] it was saying "Could not load list of meta packages: No module named configparser" [13:26] right so it was tripping over missing deps, made the script return early, triggering the problem outlined in the comment [13:26] I installed python-future and it now returns a ! [13:26] 1 [13:27] not sure how future relates to configparser though :P [13:27] beyond me ! [13:27] its magic [13:28] clivejo: locate configparser |grep python [13:29] also [13:29] grep -ri configparser /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UpdateManager/ [13:30] https://paste.kde.org/piw9cupl5 [13:31] added both to that paste [13:32] /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/future/moves/configparser.py [13:32] clivejo: I only see one in the paste [13:32] reload [13:32] I revised it [13:32] I did :( [13:32] clivejo: surely the revision has a new id [13:32] https://paste.kde.org/pijochkul [13:32] sorry sitter didnt realise that [13:33] righto [13:33] any clues? [13:33] clivejo: python3-update-manager needs a dependency on python-future [13:33] eh [13:33] clivejo: python3-update-manager needs a dependency on python3-future [13:33] python3-future apparently contains /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/future/moves/configparser.py which is apparently used by /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py: import configparser [13:34] is python-future just a meta package? [13:34] clivejo: did you install python-future or python3-future? [13:35] just python-future [13:35] that makes no sense now :P [13:35] * sitter spins up a container [13:35] LOL [13:36] at any rate, whatever dependency it brought in... the problem is in some library not muon. muon's releasechecker only uses the UpdateManager module [13:38] seems like a restart got it back to working order so far [13:42] clivejo: I can't reproduce this [13:43] strange [13:43] * sitter purges and tries without recommends [13:43] must be my install [13:44] clivejo: I think installing python packages sometimes compiles the modules so it doesn't have to interpret all of it all the time, perhaps something there went wrong [13:44] thing is.. configparser.py is also in python minimal and that should always be installed [13:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12000167/ :( [13:54] nope [13:54] clivejo: can't reproduce it [13:54] had minimal dep set installed, releasechecker fails as it is not critical functionality. installed python3-update-manager works as expected [13:54] so whatever went wrong for you it doesn't appear to be an actual problem in the packaging === palasso_ is now known as palasso [17:42] ugh not feeling well at all, despite 13 hours of sleep. [17:45] sgclark: :( [17:48] jetlag? [17:50] sgclark: you body needs to recover from jetlag and other tihings [17:50] *your [17:51] yeah, and I ended up with sore throat and a cold :( [17:52] oh noews [17:54] probably the old stale re-circualted air on the phone [17:54] plane [17:57] Modern planes usually have HEPA air filtration and also quite a bit of air is brought in from outside. [17:58] However, it is often very dry air, which can cause a sore throat and a runny nose. [18:15] get lots of daylight to help with jet lag [18:18] * BluesKaj has jetlag from waking up too early these days [18:19] Riddell: where have you moved to? [18:20] clivejo: sunny Scotland :) [18:20] it was getting too hot in Barcelona [18:20] is it as wet and windy as it is in Ireland? [18:20] LOL from one extreme to the other [18:22] Riddell: I tried to package digiKam 4.12 and its in my PPA, will you have a look see if I done it right? [18:31] any slow issues on Wily Riddell? [18:31] got a bit slow since I got bcak [18:40] clivejo: yep it's on my todo for this evening thanks :) [18:40] ahoneybun: all good here [18:40] damn it [18:40] takes like 5 secs to click [18:40] sometimes to type [18:41] I wonder if it has to do with the staging-framework [20:09] ahoneybun: Wily is fine for me. Even on the somewhat slow laptop. [20:10] darn [20:54] clivejo: digikam looking good, uploaded! can you update it in bzr? [20:56] how do I do that? [21:16] clivejo: bzr co bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/ [21:16] copy in the new debian/ direcotory [21:16] bzr diff [21:16] bzr commit [21:19] he can't do that unless he's a member, so either he'll need a merge request or you have to commit [21:20] Or he can become a member ;) [21:20] ubuntu member? [21:20] ofc, but "right now" isn't really managable :P [21:21] True, true... But still ;) [21:21] anyone of us can do it for him no? [21:23] you still need council quorum [21:23] and he's been here for ~6 months? [21:23] I meant to commit [21:24] ah right, that sure [21:24] that was more meant as a reminder for Riddell as he doesn't seem to remember that [21:24] sure [21:24] I think he is a member of ~kubuntu-packagers [21:25] he is [21:25] yellow belt for sure [21:26] things are soo slowww [21:26] on my system [21:27] sgclark: just saw you are sick [21:27] :( [21:27] very :( [21:27] ahoneybun: Have you checked why that might be? [21:28] we want more kubuntu members and kubuntu devels! [21:28] things seem a bit better after removing staging-frameworks [21:28] lordievader: ^ [21:28] a ppa [21:28] there is still a council and still a group of kubuntu devels to grill new devels [21:29] system76 still love us :) [21:29] sitter: we put the notes for the kubuntu BoF on the bottom of the Neon BoF [21:29] dear god I hate windows [21:29] but at least the visa is paid [21:29] now for the rest of the bills [21:29] ahoneybun: First stop would be vmstat or atop I'd say ;) [21:30] ewwww windows [21:30] * ahoneybun slides lordievader over to #kubuntu [21:30] * valorie plunges back into the OS of darkness and dispair [21:30] no? [21:31] not sure what vmstat is saying [21:31] Hehe, thanks to my recent ram upgrade I forgot today that I had Windows running in the background as a vm... XD [21:31] I have 8gbs [22:21] clivejo: hum, not working https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/4:4.12.0-0ubuntu1 [22:22] have to disable proposed [22:24] Riddell: lets have Canonical pay for a new hdd XD [22:25] canonical won't, you can always try the ubuntu community fund, but probably not [22:25] jokes of course [22:30] hi TJ-! [22:36] ooh frameworks 5.13 is here [22:38] weee, bills are paid [22:38] windows machine doing updates or something [22:50] * ahoneybun 's hard drive will die soon I think