=== kubuntu is now known as brightness_help [01:00] i have a thinkpad t450s with an intel display. I have booted up the live usb and everything works great except for the brightness. I can control the brightness, but the number of steps is wrong. there should be about 19-20 steps of brightness control, yet in kubuntu there is only 10. [01:01] this is running kubuntu 15.04. i have also tested this with ubuntu 15.04 live usb and it has the correct number of brightness steps. === interrobang is now known as pellucid_banana === pellucid_banana is now known as roonie === roonie is now known as pellucid_banana === gabriel_ is now known as mrgab [05:49] hello there! [05:54] Hello [05:55] I have some sort of problem, I don't know if somebody culd help me a bit :) [05:56] I use kubuntu 14.04 [05:56] And I have folder view on my desktop [05:56] When a delete a file, it doesn't disappear from my dektop [05:56] until I give F5 [05:57] help please [05:57] :) [07:45] Good morning. === TuxMario is now known as TuxMario_ === 20WABTS2H is now known as TuxDeTreb === LjL` is now known as LjL-Alps === kubuntu is now known as Guest3148 === Yukkii is now known as Dhs92 === LjL` is now known as LjL-Alps [12:13] Hiyas all === LjL` is now known as LjL-Alps === afx237_ is now known as afx237 [13:16] what's the shell command to configure display geometries, such as seen in settings > display & monitor > display configuration? [13:16] with multi monitor that is [13:18] regedit: xrandr? [13:19] lordievader: is there a command in xrandr to simply "refresh" the current config? [13:19] Refresh? [13:19] or must i change something in order to invoke that [13:19] What do you mean with refresh? [13:20] well the issue is sometimes something about the display(s) goes a little bit bonkers. A workaround i've found is to cause system settings to "refresh" the display configuration, by for example, changing the monitor positioning by a pixel or 2 [13:20] causes the screens to flash for a second and sorta re-configure into their new configuration [13:21] i wanto know if there's a way i can cause that to happen from command line [13:22] regedit: I'd rather search for a fix than a workaround if I were you. [13:23] well i've tried that for a while, and it's never yielded much yet, i'm happy with the workaround for now [13:23] i just want to invoke that from a command shell, a sorta refresh.sh i can execute [13:24] I suppose 'xrandr --output --auto' 'refreshes' things. [13:24] lordievader: ok thanks i'll try that [13:24] ooh i see edgers have put out nvidia drivers 355 [13:25] Ugh, xorg-edgers [13:26] let's see how bad it gets, rebooting... [13:26] I don't use xorg-edgers as it can update various other packages [13:27] I just install the binary and occaionally have no desktop after xorg updates - kernel updates are ok if you use dkms [13:28] hm, seems like installation failed... [13:29] where's TJ-, your automagic script failed! :P [13:29] which isn't the best solution - but until ubuntu have the latest version thats the best you can do if you want the latest driver. [13:29] And if you play games you want the latest driver. [13:30] (its a personal pet hate of mine that ubuntu keep an old version of the driver with known bugs in..) [13:31] so there's always options, like.....edgers [13:32] i'm not sure this combo makes sense... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12000043/ [13:36] xedgers drivers aren't well supported , and bleeding edge ppa apps usually fail after the next kernel update [13:36] using TJ-'s script here http://iam.tj/projects/misc/wget_nvidia_drivers.bash [13:37] why? [13:37] because i'm experiencing weirdnesses in my displays [13:38] the recommended 346 has bugs, which the 352 resolved not to bad, so now i'm wondering if 355 might have more improvements [13:39] and you expect unstable drivers to solve the weirdness.. [13:39] welcome to the land of the linuxes [13:40] it's not like (k)ubuntu is anywhere near stable unfortunately [13:41] I'm using the 340 driver , no instablity here, but my nvidia is merely an entry level type suitable for HD movies etc, not doing any gaming [13:41] i've made a choice to try (k)ubuntu, and there's a hefty price to pay for that.. so here I am trying to live with it.. [13:42] regedit: I rarely encounter instablility issues on my Kubuntu installs. [13:42] it's not like my laptop's 640M is a monster either (currently bottom of the supported lines i believe) [13:43] then why edgy unstable drivers, think you're heading in the wrong direction [13:45] all directions have their bugs [13:46] - speking from my experience with kubuntu thus far [13:46] * BluesKaj shrugs, the 340 works on my 8400gs without a hitch [13:46] on 15.10 wily no less [13:47] multi display & all? [13:47] nope,panasonic plsama tv [13:47] so there [13:47] either way it just goes to show, you are one of the lucky winners of the "Will Linux Play Nicely With You" lottery! congrats [13:48] I'm sure the recommended driver for your gpu would work , have you tried it "? [13:48] yup [13:48] buggy [13:48] which driver is it ? [13:48] known issue which fixed in 352 [13:48] 346 is the proprietary recommended === stc is now known as steffen [13:49] and I suppose the 352 fixes one issue but comes wqith a different one [13:49] nouveaux - lets. not. even. go. there. period. dot. [13:49] BluesKaj: as mentioned, welcome to the *nixes [13:51] * BluesKaj shrugs again, not a problem for me, complain all you want, but you're the exception , not the rule [13:51] then i am the exception too [13:51] ^ lottery [13:52] neither of you alone is a big enough sample, quite obviously [13:52] yeah, the exceptions end up here looking for support, but not all linux users use multi displays [13:53] i'm not here looking for support [13:56] oh so multi display workstations are not a very linux thing, or something now? [13:56] LjL-Alps: how nice for you :-) [13:57] just another reason why other OSs still win [13:57] i'm here because i was an op in this channel for years and i was curious how things are going after KDE5, and i know pretty well that KDE has never been quite universally "stable" [13:57] most multi display worsations aren't running off a laptop [13:59] Mine is ;) [13:59] Recently downgraded from 3 screens to only 2. [14:01] I could use the old demand, define stable, but that would be almost as bad as rtfm === alket_ is now known as alket [14:18] victim blaming, much? :) [14:24] I'm sorry if you feel like a victim, but any suggestion made to you were summarily rejected, so it's difficult to know what you expect from this chat === Helene is now known as Guest72517 [14:28] not much really at this point. I was actually suggested to try the edgers drivers here in this channel [14:29] edgers work for the time being, but eventually break [14:31] as seems to be the case with recommended drivers [14:31] I've used them in the past, but only temporarily til the recommended drivers work properly [14:31] for my setup at least [14:32] the lottery, you win it [14:36] dunno if the drivers are at fault in your case, sometimes the inerface/hdmi is difficult to configure. i wasn't very successful with my intel gpu on my laptop connected via hdmi to the tv [14:37] the resolution was correct but the aspect rastio was wrong , even though it was set ar 16:9 [14:39] BluesKaj: i;ve had an issue with wrong resolution - in the end i deleted ~/.kde ~/.local ~/.config , etc and it fixed it. [14:41] (with kubuntu 15.04/nvidia) [14:43] Hi [14:45] o/ [14:45] yossarianuk: kind of drastic don't you think ? [14:47] I broke my linux, I've to type in console: "sudo dhclient eth0" otherwise no acces to net. How can I repair it so I've internet. [14:49] Marwi: How does you /etc/network/interfaces look? [14:49] !paste | Marwi [14:49] Marwi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:52] Marwi: that's odd, because once run that command should have made the ethrnet connection in network-manager and the interfaces file persistent on reboots [14:53] BluesKaj: No it doesn, dhclient just sends out a dhcp request. Nothing more. [14:53] doesn't* [14:54] well lordievader I'm recalling my experience with it [14:54] after that no more dropped connections [14:57] lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12000549/ [14:57] thanks ubottu [14:57] I tell you guys what I've done. [14:57] Marwi: You want to remove the lines with eth0 in it and reboot. [14:58] BluesKaj: sort of, it fixed the issue though. [14:58] That'll fix your connection. [14:58] The net was warking well until I've done installation of metasploit as explained at: http://www.uw-team.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10806 ....> [14:58] then I decided remove it [14:59] so I've type the oppisite comand: apt-get remove (the stuff I've install ) :-) [15:00] lordievader: you mean remove : "auto eth0 " ? [15:00] Marwi: If you are going to run metasploit you want to run it in a vm. [15:00] Marwi: Lines 2 and 4. [15:01] Or actually remove just the eth0 from line 4. [15:01] I.e. make it 'iface lo inet loopback'. [15:02] lordievader: man I though I had to add them :-) what I've done [15:02] however consider it done. [15:02] Marwi: Well you can, but the way it was configured now was wrong. [15:03] I'll be back. [15:03] Marwi: unless the setup is for trying to run without NM as a static IP [15:04] He was running dhclient ;) [15:05] I recall running with NM with static IP with the interfaces file in similar state [15:06] without NM , that is [15:06] but now eith vpns etc NM is an asset rather than a liability:) [15:06] You can define an ip in there, yes. [15:07] NM is rather nice if you have multiple interfaces and you plan on switching between them. [15:07] I.e. a laptop. [15:07] or a vpn, vps et [15:08] I cannot get multiple VPN's working with nm, I have to use the cli for vpnc [15:08] I usually use the userspace tools for VPN. [15:08] not multiple vpns, multiple vpn servers [15:08] as soon as you start the 2nd the 1st connect drops using network manager [15:09] yossarianuk: Kind of sound like a routing issue. [15:10] lordievader: not sure, all I know if that I have to use the vpnc cli if I want 2 connections at same time. [15:11] yossarianuk: Investigate ;) [15:11] yossarianuk: never tried multiple vpn connections, just assumed it wasn't possibel with NM' [15:12] at least with openvpn-nm [15:12] looks like a known issue... [15:12] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=744845 [15:12] Debian bug 744845 in network-manager "Allow simultanious VPN connections" [Wishlist,Open] [15:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/671024 [15:13] Launchpad bug 91389 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #671024 Please add support for more than one VPN simultaneously" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [15:16] * Marwi is back [15:16] unfortunately it did not help. [15:17] How does your /etc/network/interfaces look like now? [15:17] when I restarted system, "ifconfig" showed me just: lo Link encap:Local Loopback [15:18] Marwi: Did you uninstall network manager? [15:19] lordievader: I was actually thinking that this is what I needed, but I'll Copy/Paste what I see when I tried install it. just give a 5s [15:20] is there a clean way to have an static ip through /etc/network/interfaces stuff without messing up everything in kubuntu 14.10? After setting up an static ip the ordinary way, and doing dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf, the network works fine, but then kde apps either freeze or take a long time to appear... any ideas? [15:23] joan__: 14.10 ain't supported anymore. [15:23] lordievader: I'll just install it. I think I've seen it was removed when I was removing some packages. [15:23] joan__: Sounds like your resolving is broken. [15:23] Marwi: That would explain your problems ;) [15:24] yeah, but how can I fix them [15:24] joan__: How are you setting your nameservers? [15:25] dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 in /etc/network/interfaces for the eth0 interface [15:26] joan__: Do they appear in /etc/resolv.conf? [15:26] yes [15:27] joan__: Just those you have configured or more? [15:28] this one and the 127.0.0.1 [15:28] Is there a dnsmasq listening on 127.0.0.1? [15:28] 127.0.0.1 --> 127.0.1.1 [15:28] excuse me [15:29] Same thing, does dnsmasq listen to that address? [15:30] auto lo iface lo inet loopback, that's what I've got in /etc/network/interfaces, apart from the eth0 config [15:30] how can I check this? [15:30] the dnsmasq thing? [15:30] joan__: sudo netstat -tulpn|grep dnsmasq [15:31] joan__: not sure if this istill the case but /etc/resolv.conf is now overwritten by /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base as shown here, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/174349/what-overwrites-etc-resolv-conf-on-every-boot [15:31] tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1650/dnsmasq [15:32] and two more udp lines without the LISTEN word [15:33] Hi [15:33] BluesKaj: It is generated from files in /etc/resolvconf [15:34] joan__: What do you get when you try to resolve an url with 'nslookup - 127.0.1.1'? [15:34] Marwi: Any progress? [15:34] still need to do: sudo dhclient eth0 however when do: ifconfig I have been shown: lo and eth0 too [15:34] Marwi: Is network manager handeling your eth0? [15:35] lordievader: what I need do to check it...? I used many distros for 15years but never had to run it. [15:35] lordievader: it's supposed to, but in the last 2yrs or so the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base and head file became the defacto default /etc/resolv.conf file afaik [15:36] lordievader, > 8.8.8.8 Server: 127.0.1.1 Address: 127.0.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: 8.8.8.8.in-addr.arpa name = google-public-dns-a.google.com. [15:36] BluesKaj: /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf [15:36] joan__: Does it take a while before you get an answer? [15:37] no, it's immediate [15:37] Marwi: Go to the configuration of Network Manager. [15:38] joan__: The kde apps you say are freezing do they do things with the network? [15:39] does dolphin do them? (I'm trying to set up an nfs-server to share files with another kubuntu box, that's why I'm setting static ip) [15:40] Dolphin might. What happens when you open kate? [15:40] There is no configuration of Network Manager [15:40] Marwi: Network Manager ain't in your system tray? [15:40] Marwi: is NM disabled? [15:41] lordievader, nothing, it doesn't even show, only the moving circle at the taskbar, and then nothing [15:42] joan__: Hmm, can you still open a terminal? [15:42] I have no system tray [15:42] lordievader, yes [15:43] btw, if I press the K left button it takes a while to show the menu [15:43] Marwi: You have no system tray? What version of Kubuntu are you running? [15:44] joan__: What do you get when you run 'kate' inside of your terminal? [15:44] lordievader: just for your info check this file, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head [15:45] QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. [15:45] 14.04 Fluxbox and xfce [15:45] BluesKaj: Why? [15:46] Marwi: Ah fluxbox... You are kind of in the wrong room ;) Anyhow is nm-applet installed? [15:46] joan__: That is all? [15:46] yes [15:46] joan__: Does kate launch though? [15:47] more than a minute after and nothing [15:47] let's try again [15:48] lordievader: got also kde but if that supposed to be in sys tray so what name of that...? I can find it in menu anywhere in setting or system menu [15:48] joan__: Is pastebin installed? [15:49] Marwi: Running nm-applet will give you a sys trac icon, through there you can configure NM. [15:49] lordievader, ??? where? [15:49] joan__: ? pastebin is a package. [15:50] lordievader: moment need restart everything to see it before sudo dhclient eth0 [15:50] wait a moment [15:59] hi [15:59] lordievader: I think that will tell you more: http://i57.tinypic.com/2rejyvb.jpg [16:01] lordievader: here's why, http://imagebin.ca/v/2AzmLCw7qHL8 [16:01] Marwi: Could you move your konsole so I can see your task bar (and specifically the systemtray). [16:01] BluesKaj: Yes? That is what I said? [16:02] there is eth0 [16:02] BluesKaj: 04-17:33 < lordievader> BluesKaj: It is generated from files in /etc/resolvconf [16:02] Marwi: Yes, but likely nm is not running and thus not setting up the connection. [16:03] * lordievader goes to make a pizza, is back in a bit [16:03] lordievader: /etc/resove.conf entries are overwritten by the above file , that head file is where the settings should be entered despite the warning [16:06] BluesKaj: That file is simply the header file, ultimately it comes in /etc/resolv.conf, the warning is against editing /etc/resolv.conf since that file will be overwritten at boot time. [16:08] lordievader: I used that file for 2yrs as the /etc/resolv.conf file when I was using a static IP without NM in the mix , it definitely overwrites any manual entries in /etcresolv.conf itself upon reboot [16:08] Sure, editing that file will work. But that is not the point I am making... [16:09] any nameservers etc have to be entered there [16:09] All I am saying is that /etc/resolv.conf is generated on boot from files in /etc/resolvconf. [16:16] yes and any IPs or DNS nameserver settings will show up in /etc/resolv.conf as long as they are entered in the head file first...it's a clunky arrangement, but for static IPs etc that's what's required when NM isn't being used or can't be configured in some situations [16:17] ok , BBL ...news [16:45] hi again, I had to go for a while [17:03] HI [17:35] lordievader, hi again. Another strange thing that happens is that I cannot restart or shutdown the computer from the K button, these options simply don't appear [17:35] joan: Do you have smartmontools installed? [17:36] lordievader, the guide I am using for the nfs stuff is: https://mostlylinux.wordpress.com/network/nfshowto/#questions [17:36] yes, lordievader [17:37] why? [17:37] joan: Could you provide me with the smart data of all disks? (sudo smartctl -a /dev/) [17:38] ok [17:38] joan: What a horrible guide. [17:39] joan: It is two steps: install nfs-kernel-server -> edit /etc/exports: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo [17:39] ok, thanks, I'll check that [17:42] lordievader, http://pastebin.com/84ke6EQf system and /home on sdb [17:42] sda is for data, but everything seems ok [17:44] joan: The WD is fine, the Seagate though.... 9618376 raw read errors. This is likely why things are slow or simply not showing up. [17:46] lordievader, do you mean the hdd is starting to break down? anyway, don't you think the errors are too kde specific to be caused by that overall condition of the hdd? [17:47] lordievader, my other (old) computer has far worse hdd smart reports and everything works fine (kubuntu 14.04) [17:47] joan: The read errors are recorded by the drive itself. Usually this is one indicator of a dying disk another indicator would be reallocated sectors. However that counter is, luckily, at zero. [18:04] lordievader, I've just made this check: at the terminal, try to start kwrite, and after a while, check again smartctl -a /dev/sdb, the number of read errors has gone up, from 9724744 to 9727288. Does it mean something? [18:06] joan: Yes that is a bad sign. It likely means it tries to read some data, gets an error and gives up. [18:07] joan: Do you have a backup of that drive? [18:07] no, but you read my mind. I've already connected the external hdd to backup [18:07] let's see if it not too late... [18:07] Exactly, try to make a backup if can. === Dhs92 is now known as Yukkii [18:08] joan: I'd image the disk with dd. (Twice preferably, one original image and one to mess with) [18:10] I only have one hdd to do the backup. [18:12] perhaps create a couple of partitions for the images [18:12] BluesKaj, I can't. Too much data (almost 2TB) [18:12] bummer [18:13] I'm only interested in the /home dir [18:13] which is the best way to back it up? cp? Or what? [18:15] joan: dd, since you have read errors you want to grab as much as you can. The filesystem you might be able to restore later. [18:15] btw, this is from dmesg at startup: http://pastebin.com/aQmU30q3 [18:16] rsync works well, but depends how large your ~/home dir is and how much time you have [18:18] time is no problem, my /home dir is almost 2TB [18:20] lordievader, BluesKaj, and it's on a separate partition: /home --> /dev/sdb4 [18:21] looks like another hdd is needed [18:22] joan: Compress it? [18:22] dd | gzip (or some other compression tool) [18:23] the idea is to copy the contents of my /home partition to the external usb hdd I've got (the same size as the dying one: 2TB) [18:27] gzip can compress by a factor of 8 according to some forums [18:28] depending on the type of data [18:30] BluesKaj, I don't need compression, just copying, perhaps rsync is what I want [18:34] joan: I've used rsync for smaller files like 300GB and it tooka while , 5-6 hrsso 2Tb is gonna be slwowhere as dd can probly copy much faster if I'm not mistaken , correct lordievader ? [18:35] 5-6 hrs that is [18:36] i've only copied smaller images like OS iso files using dd, so my experience with such large data files as 2TB is nonexistent [18:39] with dd one cvan set the blocksize (within limits of course), but i'm not sure what the safe bs would be. It's probly worth doing some research [18:43] joan: as the source drive is failing, I'd suggest using ddrescue to clone it [18:44] here come s tha cavalry ... Hi TJ- :-) [18:45] joan: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery [18:45] thanx === julian is now known as Guest1014 [18:47] BluesKaj: re: dd blocksize (bs/ibs/obs) ... it controls the in-memory buffering . I tend to use as much RAM as is available so that the reads/writes can be done in sustained large blocks. That reduces transfer times significantly. For large datasets I will sometimes use 1GB [18:49] TJ-: cool thanks for the tip [19:20] Is it just me or did the latest nvidia updates mess everything up? I can't even recognize the nvidia-settings program anymore. [19:34] @mluser If your talking about the Nvidia 355 drivers, they're working fine over here [19:35] On Kubuntu 15.04 [19:41] Osirez: Thanks.. I'm on my laptop.. will try to figure out what the problem is later when I'm done with work. Its probably just me then :D [19:52] mluser: no problem. [20:07] BluesKaj: Yes, rsync is rather slow compared to cp or dd. [20:56] I'm missing something. I'm developing a piece of software which for reasons beyond my responsibility crashes when I quit it. I launched it from konsole, is there any way to kill it without closing the tab or suspending and killing by process id? [20:58] DDR: Your program is killing the parent? [20:58] No, it's just stopping. It never returns control to konsole. [20:59] DDR: Ah, run it with & to run in in the background. If you want to be able to close the Konsole: nohup & [20:59] I do not want to do either of those. [21:00] I want it to stop. It won't stop without a lot of typing. [21:01] Then I do not understand the problem. [21:01] if ctrl-c normally stops a program, and returns control to me, I am looking for a keyboard shortcut that will force the program to stop, whatever it is doing, and return control to me. [21:02] I keep having to click through popups or type in a code. [21:02] DDR: Ctrl - c should do that, unless your program doesn't listen to sigint. [21:03] Having a shortcut for SIGKILL is a bad idea. [21:03] It's crashed by that point. It isn't listening to anything. [21:04] (Basically, it throws up a dialog with the last scripting error. If I bungle the scripting, sometimes the error is ridiculously long and the program just... stops.) [21:06] lordievader: How do you recommend I kill a process that crashes, occasionally, a few times a minute? [21:06] If a program crashes your promt should return. Sounds like your program is crashing into a zombie state. [21:08] Yes. Perhaps a better word is "freezing". [21:08] Then you are going to have to look at your code as to why that is happening. [21:09] Digging into the internals of KDE is out of the question, I'm afraid. I don't speak very good c++. [21:09] This is not something I can fix. [21:09] DDR: I thought this was your own code? [21:09] Group project. [21:10] Submit a bug report with whoever is responsible for the code then. [21:10] My scripting errors cause the engine to try to display a popup dialog with an unreasonable size. The dialog appears in the window list in KDE, but does not actually have any surface area. [21:10] On vacation in europe. :p [21:10] I really, truly have looked at fixing this in our code, and I really truly have come up short. [21:11] The error message is printed to the console anyway, so I'm perfectly happy to let the engine die for now. === ubuntu is now known as Guest6909 [21:11] I know it needs a proper text-box, but I can't make it do so. [21:12] DDR: Does the program respond to a SIGTERM? (i.e. default kill) [21:12] http://abriefsummaryofeverything.blogspot.nl/2012/07/kill-9-bad-idea.html [21:15] The window remains open, but it's an unusable solution because I have to type in both my rather long password and the rather long PID. [21:17] DDR: Err why? killall [21:18] The window remains on-screen, although it doesn't update any more. [21:19] Perhaps there are two components of the problem - stopping the program, and closing the window? [21:19] (thanks for your help so far, lordievader, I'm sorry if I'm being difficult :( ) [21:19] I must say the problem is still not very clear to me. [21:20] Perhaps a screenshot would help. Let me make one up here... === alket_ is now known as alket [21:27] lordievader: Given , we have three windows in question. The focused one, "Frogatto & Friends", is the engine which has just thrown an assertion. The next window, "Assertion Failed", is a modal dialog that throws up the assertion. The one behind the Frogatto window is Konsole, which is running the program that made the Frogatto window. [21:27] From the console, what is the quickest way to get rid of both the Frogatto window and the Assertion window? [21:28] Sometimes the assertion failed window will not render on screen, it just appears in the window bar at the bottom. [21:28] (So I can't click OK and exit the program normally.) [21:29] Looks like you need better error handeling ;) [21:29] Anyhow, I guess you want to write a script who hunts out those programs and kills them. [21:30] I guess I could bind it to a hotkey. [21:30] DDR: For example. [21:30] But that would only work for this one program. :( [21:31] ahoneybun: https://www.linode.com/docs/uptime/monitoring/use-vmstat-to-monitor-system-performance [21:31] ahoneybun: You'd want to run it like 'vmstat 1' or something. [21:31] The first line it gives is some strange summary, or something. [21:32] ok [21:33] ahoneybun: You want to pay special attention to the 'b', 'swap' and 'wa' columns. [21:34] 80-86 in the wa [21:34] wooooo [21:35] atop is shooting something weird [21:35] my disk is very busy [21:35] ahoneybun: There you go ;) [21:35] 90% and above [21:35] 80% wait is bad... [21:35] hit 102 [21:35] You want to keep that below 20. [21:36] now 13% [21:36] so my disk is going bad [21:36] How many blocked processes (b)? [21:36] in wmstat? [21:36] Yes. [21:37] 0-2 [21:37] Okay, not too bad. Is smartmontools installed? [21:37] nope [21:37] seems like disk is going to die then no? [21:38] Okay install it and supply me with the output of 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/' of every disk in the system. [21:40] some errors with the mirrors [21:40] ? [21:40] trying to update the list [21:44] lordievader: https://paste.kde.org/p5azrmva7 [21:46] you think building Android has anything to do with this? [21:46] ahoneybun: Your ssd looks fine, the Seagate however, it shows some errors here and there. That is likely the reason for the slowdowns. [21:46] the ssd has mostly nothing [21:46] 24gb is not much [21:46] The second Seagate I see today with errors. [21:47] I'm thinking of reinstalling but if it has errors then it is hardware [21:47] Your system is on the ssd I guess? [21:47] nope [21:48] https://paste.kde.org/pc5aswox9 [21:48] Hmm, well if the slowdowns are really bothering you, or the error rates go up in smart I'd replace the disk and use this one for non-crucial storage. [21:49] they are bothering me a lot [21:49] How large is your install? [21:50] I.e. how much of sdb1 is in use. [21:50] the home is 877gbs [21:50] not sure how much is used [21:50] ahoneybun: Could you pastebin the output of 'df -h' [21:51] https://paste.kde.org/pleg4bmiy [21:52] 130GB [21:52] ahoneybun: Oh, you are using a mere 7G of the 46 G, I'd move it to the ssd ;) [21:52] I did that once [21:52] then I filed it [21:53] fillled [21:53] somehow [21:53] idk [21:53] but is it a hardware issue or software? [21:53] if hardware then I would just get a new hdd and reinstall [21:54] I'd bet on hardware. Keep a look at the smart values and see if they increase. [21:54] No need to reinstall, just dd. [21:54]