| slangasek | man, what's with the sort order on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/ | 00:23 |
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| slangasek | xnox: are you driving no-change rebuilds for boost1.58? | 00:24 |
| slangasek | I have a stack of ABI-breaking libraries /on top/ of gnuradio whose build-deps are currently uninstallable because of boost->libzeep->gnuradio, so if nobody is batching those up I suppose I should take a look soon | 00:25 |
| slangasek | OTOH I should also double-check that these gnuradio revdeps are actually libraries and not just plugins or something | 00:26 |
| slangasek | anyone have the url to the last full-archive rebuild test? (main+universe) | 01:04 |
| slangasek | looks like this might be it - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20150402 | 01:15 |
| slangasek | Package: libgdome2-cpp-smart0v5 | 01:51 |
| slangasek | Conflicts: libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a, libgdome2-cpp-smart0, libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2 | 01:51 |
| slangasek | latest script revision, smarts added to handle c2/c2a -> v5 renaming. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11997246/ | 01:53 |
| slangasek | should kdepimlibs have gotten a package name transition already? it shows up in my to-be-converted list | 04:27 |
| slangasek | wow, so hdf5's C++ library has a symbols file where every single symbol is marked 'optional' and new symbols are not build failures. ok then! | 07:15 |
| slangasek | ... and furthermore there's a version script, which doesn't match any of the new symbols | 07:33 |
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| slangasek | ugh who let gadap into the archive (library package builds only .a, which is used by other packages in the archive) | 17:53 |
| infinity | slangasek: #debian-ftp is over there. | 17:54 |
| * infinity points. | 17:54 | |
| infinity | slangasek: Though, it seems to only have one r-build-dep, so it could be worse... | 17:55 |
| slangasek | infinity: yes, it's still a pain for abi transitions | 17:59 |
| infinity | slangasek: Don't worry, Go will save us all from this evil C++. | 17:59 |
| infinity | slangasek: Also, can you be a dear and review ubuntu-drivers-common/trusty? | 18:01 |
| infinity | I suppose I should make sure it passes its testsuite first... | 18:02 |
| infinity | Oh look, it passes. | 18:06 |
| infinity | bdmurray: You around? | 18:13 |
| bdmurray | infinity: yep | 18:16 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Too late, I think arges is on the case. | 18:17 |
| infinity | slangasek: Disregard the pleading for review. | 18:17 |
| bdmurray | infinity: when is this point release? | 18:17 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Thursday. | 18:17 |
| bdmurray | infinity: okay, I was just thinking about meta-release changes and being out on Friday | 18:18 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Ahh, yeah. Who else has commit to that? We really need to spread it around a bit more. | 18:18 |
| infinity | ... not that it's accurate anyway right now. | 18:19 |
| infinity | Whee. | 18:19 |
| infinity | bdmurray: lucid still claims to be Supporter: 1 in meta-release-lts. | 18:19 |
| infinity | And in meta-release | 18:19 |
| infinity | And, not shockingly, -development. | 18:19 |
| infinity | bdmurray: I must have missed bugging you about EOL on that one. | 18:20 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Then again, no one ever changed it to 10.04.4 either, so it seems lucid is full of meta-release fail. :) | 18:21 |
| arges | infinity: ok accepted ubuntu-drivers-common into trusty-proposed | 18:21 |
| infinity | arges: Ta! | 18:21 |
| bdmurray | infinity: I'll have a look at fixing that. | 18:21 |
| slangasek | infinity: ok disregarding | 18:25 |
| slangasek | seb128: did you look at reverse-depends before removing xbmc from wily? xbmc-pvr-addons, at least, should also go | 18:32 |
| slangasek | (or be renamed or something | 18:33 |
| slangasek | ) | 18:33 |
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| bdmurray | infinity: wrt meta-release its cjwatson, mvo and me | 18:51 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Yeah, should probably add me to that list, since two of those people are not directly involved in the release process anymore. | 18:59 |
| bdmurray | infinity: I'll submit an RT for you since its a group change on a server and I know the details. | 19:08 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Ta. | 19:08 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Then tell me what branch I'm supposed to check out. :P | 19:09 |
| bdmurray | infinity: ~ubuntu-core-dev/meta-release/ubuntu/ | 19:12 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Well, based on the path, I assume lots and lots of us have commit to that... | 19:12 |
| infinity | bdmurray: So, there's clearly a second step here that involves changelogs.u.c | 19:12 |
| bdmurray | infinity: yeah, there is some manual copying around on the server | 19:13 |
| infinity | bdmurray: Check. | 19:13 |
| slangasek | robru: I'm about to trigger mass-rebuilds for tinyxml, because I found some intersection between that transition and the libjsoncpp one | 20:28 |
| slangasek | robru: so http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/tinyxml-g++5.html may be worth looking at in a little bit | 20:28 |
| robru | slangasek: oh hey. sorry I'm late going to lunch, the creds leak situation turned out to be worse than I thought (in addition to the fixes I told you, it's also leaking tokens when debugging is enabled). so I've only just fixed this, just about to lunch now | 20:29 |
| slangasek | ok | 20:29 |
| robru | slangasek: thanks for the tip though | 20:29 |
| slangasek | looking into the ogre-1.8 FTBFS | 21:36 |
| slangasek | (by way of a convoluted chain of dependencies that will not be expanded here) | 21:36 |
| robru | slangasek: ok sorry about that, what am I looking at on that page there? | 22:28 |
| robru | slangasek: I see a whole lot of red X's. that's good, right? | 22:28 |
| slangasek | robru: it's good that you see them but not good that they're there | 22:29 |
| robru | heh | 22:29 |
| robru | slangasek: so I should just drill down into the build logs and figure out what the failures are? | 22:29 |
| slangasek | robru: you'll notice a double dose of them in arm64, ppc, and (to a lesser extent) ppc64el; those are ignoreable for now and just mean that the builders for those archs are a little behind. For the ones with x in the amd64 column, yes, drill down and figure out the cause of failure | 22:30 |
| robru | slangasek: ah I was just about to ask if there was a distinction between "failing on all arches" and "failing on some arches", you read my mind ;-) | 22:30 |
| slangasek | robru: particularly for packages that have XubuntuY version numbers, it's worth looking whether there's a newer version in Debian that might fix the failure (merges.ubuntu.com) | 22:31 |
| slangasek | robru: for packages that a reasonable fix is possible, prepare a source package and submit it to sponsorship queue (which in this case means: open bug on package, upload debdiff, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors) and you can also ping here for uploads | 22:32 |
| slangasek | robru: for unseeded packages where a fix seems untractable, it's often reasonable to remove the package from wily and wait for a fix from Debian; feel free to propose removals where you think this is appropriate | 22:33 |
| robru | slangasek: oh man that sounds like a crusty workflow. can't just dput to my ppa or something? | 22:33 |
| slangasek | robru: and if you find packages that are failing to build because their build dependencies are uninstallable, that may indicate that we need to traverse a different part of the dep chain or retry the builds etc | 22:34 |
| slangasek | robru: no, the sponsors don't want to be redownloading a full package from a ppa :) | 22:34 |
| slangasek | interchanging debdiffs is more efficient | 22:35 |
| robru | slangasek: k I'm not great with debdiffs but I'll figure it out. should I be attempting to reproduce these failures locally in sbuild or something? | 22:35 |
| slangasek | robru: generally yes | 22:35 |
| robru | alright | 22:36 |
| slangasek | as for debdiffs, the command is 'debdiff' to create a diff between two source packages (.dscs) | 22:36 |
| infinity | robru: "Not great with debdiffs"? After you build that source package you would have uploaded to your ppa, "debdiff old.dsc new.dsc > new.debdiff" done. | 22:36 |
| robru | infinity: well I don't have old.dsc at the moment ;-) | 22:36 |
| infinity | For bonus points, read the debdiff too. :P | 22:36 |
| infinity | robru: How are you lacking old.dsc? | 22:36 |
| infinity | robru: Oh. If you're using UDD/bzr for this and trusting the branches to be accurate, stop that. | 22:37 |
| robru | infinity: because I literally *just* started looking at this and I don't have anything on my system at all. | 22:37 |
| infinity | robru: pull-lp-source $package && hack, hack, hack && debuild -S && debdiff old new. | 22:37 |
| slangasek | robru: 'pull-lp-source' | 22:37 |
| robru | slangasek: infinity: thanks. last time I tried asking around for how to download source packages nobody seemed to know and I ended up writing some hack to fudge sources.list to make 'apt-get source' download from other archives. | 22:38 |
| slangasek | I guess you didn't ask the right people ;) | 22:39 |
| robru | slangasek: no apparently not. but they were core devs oddly | 22:39 |
| cjwatson | pull-lp-source knowledge has been percolating outwards for a while. I think most people have heard of it now but that was less so a year or so ago | 22:39 |
| robru | now I need to figure out how to set up sbuild ;-) | 22:40 |
| cjwatson | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild | 22:40 |
| robru | thanks | 22:40 |
| infinity | Sadly, pull-debian-source is in a bit of a state, with Debian's APIs in flux. Need to fix that to use ftpmaster's new shiny on all releases. | 22:40 |
| infinity | But pull-lp-source is definitely love. | 22:40 |
| robru | oh man, sbuild wants to pull in exim4. Can it, like, not? | 22:41 |
| infinity | robru: apt-get install nullmailer sbuild | 22:41 |
| robru | infinity: thanks | 22:42 |
| infinity | robru: Or some real MTA of choice, if you want to mail stuff. | 22:42 |
| robru | infinity: nah, happy gmail user | 22:42 |
| infinity | (sbuild likes to mail out build logs, but this feature is perhaps of questionable value to the average dev) | 22:42 |
| robru | yep, sounds useless to me | 22:43 |
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