[05:33] <barrydk> Morning all
[05:44] <GnikLlort> morning
[06:13] <pieter2627> good day all
[06:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:30] <Kilos> moning all, i go sort sheep
[06:30] <Kilos> morning too
[06:31] <GnikLlort> morning
[06:57] <mazal> mornings
[06:58] <Kilos> hi mazal barrydk 
[06:58] <mazal> gaanit oom ?
[06:59] <Kilos> koud en daar
[06:59] <Kilos> global warming has changed things
[07:00] <Kilos> used to be if pts temp showed 4°c on weather we got ice outsside
[07:00] <Kilos> now its anything from 7°c and below
[07:00] <Kilos> pta
[07:01] <mazal> Ag just another &*%^&^ day in IT support
[07:01] <Kilos> haha
[07:01] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:05] <mazal> Global warming is a myth , it's getting colder every year
[07:06] <Kilos> yeah or we getting older and weaker
[07:07] <barrydk> Julle kan darem kerm en kla soos 'n klomp ou anties magies, nous ek ook skoon depresief
[07:37] <Kilos> lol
[07:37] <mazal> Die oom raas darem erg met ons vanmore
[07:38] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:48] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:48] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: tell cryterion ping!
[08:44] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: Sure, I'll tell Cryterion on freenode
[08:44] <Kilos> ai! die krag darem
[08:50] <TinuvaMac> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-alternating-current/
[08:50] <TinuvaMac> crazy dude that is
[08:50] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[08:51] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[09:39] <MaNI> looks like he went full derp
[09:39] <TinuvaMac> indeed
[10:12] <superfly> the thing about alternating current is this: the only reason to use it is because it travels further. internally, all your appliances use DC
[11:14] <MaNI> even that isn't really true
[11:15] <MaNI> see e.g. cahora-basa powerline
[11:15] <MaNI> anyway I'm all for using DC power where possible - it's some of the other stuff he has done that is crazy like the food thing :p
[11:16] <TinuvaMac> yeah i dont think i'd be able to eat slush every day
[11:19] <Kilos> hmm... loadshedding huh!
[11:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope
[11:40] <MaNI> also the clothes thing
[11:43] <Kilos> ai!
[12:42] <magespawn> good afternoon
[12:44] <mazal> Bye for now everyone
[16:38] <superfly> Our phone line is so stuffed. 
[16:39] <Kilos-> eish
[16:39] <superfly> Earlier today it rang, my wife picked it up, there were two ladies on the other side taking to each other, and they apparently couldn't hear her. 
[16:39] <Kilos-> wow
[16:40] <Kilos-> i thought that stopped happening with nommer asb
[16:40] <Kilos-> the old manual switchboards
[16:41] <superfly> I don't know. As you can imagine, our ADSL is stuffed up. 
[16:42] <superfly> Connects for 10 minutes, then disconnects, then it connects but is slow 
[16:42] <superfly> Etc 
[16:51] <Kilos-> very bad the need to do lotsa work ther
[16:55] <Kilos-> or when kabels were stolen they connected new ones up wrong
[17:01] <Kilos-> supper
[18:01] <magespawn> good evening
[18:01] <Kilos-> hi magespawn 
[18:03] <magespawn> hi Kilos- nice tail
[18:04] <Kilos-> uh oh
[18:04] <Kilos-> i forgot
[18:04] <Kilos-> im on lappy
[18:05] <Kilos> sitting on bed is much warmer
[18:05] <magespawn> yes indeed
[18:16] <magespawn> so whats up Kilos ?
[18:24] <Kilos> working with pro to make him loadshedding free for meetings
[18:30] <magespawn> nice, jubane pretroleum does battries, going to investigate in the morning
[18:31] <Kilos> keep peeps informed on prices
[18:31] <magespawn> will do
[18:32] <magespawn> they also do complete systems, setup and installed
[18:32] <magespawn> but that will probable be rather pricey
[18:34] <magespawn> s/probable/probably
[18:44] <gremble> Evening
[18:48] <magespawn> hi gremble 
[18:49] <gremble> Does anyone here know how to get a mailing list up and running? 
[18:49] <gremble> Hey magespawn 
[18:50] <magespawn> you need a server and software, i think the software is open source, check out mailing list site
[18:50] <magespawn> Kilos: where is our mailing list site?
[18:51] <gremble> Mailman seems like the go-to software. But I don't think I am going to go through that. I found google groups give a similar service
[18:51] <gremble> I am going to try that out and see how it works
[18:51] <gremble> I want to get the TuksLUG back up
[18:51] <gremble> Seeing as I got hassled for not doing anything ;) :P
[18:51] <magespawn> i think the dlug does something on google groups
[18:51] <magespawn> good idea either
[18:51] <magespawn> way
[18:55] <gremble> Since tuks is an academic institution, do you think I can say something like "TLUG is for the support and promotion of libre software and the GNU/Linux eco-system in an academic environment"?
[19:01] <magespawn> that is a bit limiting isn't it? \
[19:02] <magespawn> why only an academic environment? 
[19:03] <gremble> Because there is like a million others, and it is not limited to academia. Just more specific I would say. A niche
[19:10] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:11] <Kilos> hi gremble
[19:11] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[19:11] <Kilos> im reading back log
[19:12] <gremble> I thought you left. Everytime I was here during the weekend, you seemed to be gone :P
[19:12] <Kilos> magespawn its on our site
[19:12] <Kilos> lists.ubuntu.com and somewhere in there is a za bit
[19:12] <Kilos> https://ubuntu-za.org
[19:13] <Kilos> in there when you go join you will find it
[19:13] <Kilos> i dont have emails here on lappy
[19:16] <gremble> well, https://groups.google.com/d/forum/tuks-linux-user-group There. It exists now. I'll figure out a better description and see how I can get people to join up. I'll do a domain sometime in the future.
[19:17] <Kilos> ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <superfly> gremble: most shared hosting packages already have mailman set up
[19:17] <superfly> gremble: ping SubOracle
[19:18] <gremble> Ah I am not going to pay for shared hosting. I mean, I would if I could. I almost bought a domain over the weekend. But I cannot afford it at present
[19:19] <superfly> gremble: you can't afford R20 a month?
[19:20] <gremble> Nope. Not at the moment. 
[19:20] <gremble> I'm at R10 petrol intervals XD
[19:21] <gremble> Hey kulelu88 
[19:21] <kulelu88> hey folks. who is good with SSH here?
[19:21] <kulelu88> ola gremble-ino
[19:23] <Kilos> who  is good with lappies here
[19:23] <Kilos> hatefull things
[19:23] <gremble> What seems to be the matter Kilos ?
[19:24] <Kilos> metimes it swops words around
[19:24] <Kilos> tara says im bumping the touchpad while typing
[19:24] <kulelu88> who is tara?
[19:25] <Kilos> my daughter
[19:25] <kulelu88> place your hands away from the touchpad when typing
[19:25] <Kilos> can i disable the touchpad thing somewhere
[19:25] <gremble> Yes you can
[19:25] <octoquad> Kilos, hi. There is normally an option in keyboard settings to disable the touchpad when typing
[19:26] <gremble> The touchpad is controlled by synaptic drivers
[19:26] <Kilos> i think i might be jackets
[19:26] <Kilos> oh yay ty octoquad 
[19:26] <Kilos> drives me nuts
[19:26] <octoquad> Are you using GNOME or KDE?
[19:27] <Kilos> kde
[19:27] <octoquad> ah, I don't know where that setting is, but I'm sure it will be in the same place :)
[19:27] <octoquad> somewhere
[19:28] <octoquad> and hopefully works
[19:28] <octoquad> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> terrible things laptops
[19:28] <Kilos> but closer to bed so good for winter
[19:28] <gremble> https://askubuntu.com/questions/530937
[19:28] <gremble> There seems to be an answer
[19:28] <gremble> I don't know if that would apply to you
[19:29] <kulelu88> what does your daughter do for a living? Kilos 
[19:29] <Kilos> sings and draws
[19:30] <Kilos> does anima art for peeps
[19:30] <Kilos> anime
[19:30] <kulelu88> was she on x-factor? haha
[19:31] <Kilos> yes
[19:32] <magespawn> kulelu88: i am relatively good with ssh
[19:32] <kulelu88> darn, Kilos is the dad of a famous musician 
[19:32] <kulelu88> magespawn: can you explain the security flaws people are mentioning here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10004678
[19:32] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zartVqbOY-Y
[19:33] <kulelu88> I don't even have a config in my ssh folder
[19:35] <Kilos> kulelu88 darn, Kilos is the dad of a famous musician ??
[19:35] <Kilos> i sing in the shower
[19:36] <kulelu88> did my sentence not make sense? Kilos 
[19:36] <gremble> I once sang in the shower. The water stopped until I did
[19:36] <Kilos> kulelu88 nope
[19:36] <Kilos> haha  gremble
[19:37] <kulelu88> I was shocked to find out Kilos "darn!!! I didn't know Kilos daughter went on x-factor!!!"
[19:37] <Kilos> lol
[19:38] <Kilos> that was years ago now
[19:38] <magespawn> kulelu88: i am going to take my time to read through all of that
[19:39] <kulelu88> shocking right magespawn . i need to also assign special keys for each service I SSH into
[19:41] <magespawn> i thought the idea behind ssh was to have a different key for each server
[19:41] <kulelu88> if you're using that 1 public key, it is the same key for each server
[19:43] <magespawn> the public key needs to be known anyway, or else how to people authenticate who it is?
[19:43] <magespawn> The authenticity of host 'whoami.filippo.io (178.32.139.168)' can't be established.
[19:43] <magespawn> RSA key fingerprint is c8:9a:b0:9d:59:96:24:37:70:4c:ef:eb:31:47:68:40.
[19:43] <magespawn> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[19:43] <kulelu88> he is basically using githubs public keys to find out who you are
[19:44] <magespawn> see this, i think means, they do not have a signed certificate, so you would be a nuts to connect anyway
[19:44] <magespawn> because the publc key is linked to an account?
[19:44] <mazal> Night everyone , sleep well
[19:44] <magespawn> night mazal
[19:45] <gremble> that "authenticity of host" think you get when you connect to github too (the only thing I use SSH for currently)
[19:47] <magespawn> i thought for ssh to work securely, at the host authentication stage, you would need a certificate of some sort
[19:49] <magespawn> well it did not show any of my public keys and i have several
[19:50] <kulelu88> most hosts will give you that error message
[19:51] <magespawn> you could manually add them to the known hosts file first
[19:52] <magespawn> and the key fingerprint should show you that you are connecting to the same host after the first connection
[20:08] <inetpro> good evening
[20:09] <gremble> wassup dawg
[20:12] <MaNI> eve
[20:12] <Kilos> hi ma
[20:12] <Kilos> MaNI 
[20:13] <gremble> kulelu88: https://groups.google.com/d/forum/tuks-linux-user-group I made it, finally haha
[20:13] <Kilos> octoquad kde has a function- disable touchpad when mouse is plugged in, ty
[20:14] <kulelu88> how many members? gremble 
[20:14] <gremble> Me. I just made it 
[20:14] <gremble> hah
[20:16] <kulelu88> well its a start ;)
[20:17] <inetpro> gremble: +1
[20:18] <inetpro> not that I have anything to do with tuks :-)
[20:19] <kulelu88> gremble: what is the primary linux OS that the COS department supports? 
[20:30] <gremble> kulelu88: the labs run on Arch linux at the moment if I recall
[20:30] <gremble> It used to be debain 
[20:31] <octoquad> np Kilos
[20:31] <kulelu88> arch linux ... ... ... 
[20:32] <Kilos> i ove kde
[20:33] <Kilos> but will take forever to learn all it is capable of doing
[20:33] <Kilos> maybe never learn it all
[20:33] <gremble> KDE is very customizable
[20:34] <kulelu88> they used to be ubuntu users at COS
[20:34] <kulelu88> I wouldn't be surprised if the lecturers use Win though
[20:34] <gremble> Same
[20:34] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:35] <gremble> Night kulelu88 
[20:35] <gremble> Kilos: 
[20:35] <Kilos> hehe
[20:35] <gremble> I'm going to hit the sack too
[20:35] <gremble> I should've gone to bed like 30min ago
[20:45] <magespawn> good night all