[00:00] <g2000> OneM_Industries: /home/YOUR_USERNAME/.local/...
[00:00] <OneM_Industries> OH1
[00:00] <OneM_Industries> !*
[00:00] <OneM_Industries> I was in /usr/local/share.
[00:01] <OneM_Industries> Ok, so now how do I use that?
[00:01] <TJ-> romualdo: I suspect you've mixed up the DIMM slot numbers, and left the first slot empty and filled 3 other slots. Try mirroring the layout so the empty slot has one of the 8GB modules and the hext slot has the other 8GB, then the 4GB in the 3rd slot
[00:02] <romualdo> TJ-: but why on windows 8.1 this is not a problem ? (i matched the 8gb in the 2-channel slots, and the 4gb alone in the another 2-channel
[00:03] <TJ-> romualdo: That is strange... do you have any kernel command-line options that could be affecting the way the memory is mapped? check with "cat /proc/cmdline"
[00:04] <romualdo> TJ-: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-15-generic root=UUID=2ceae185-be3c-420a-8d7f-e66c76bf85ff ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[00:04] <g2000> OneM_Industries: Just select the starter (=desktop-file) you just made as the default application for jar files.
[00:04] <OneM_Industries> Ah.
[00:04] <romualdo> TJ-: this is a fresh install, just installed kvirc until now
[00:05] <neorpheus> g2000, thanks alot m8, i wouldnt have thought to look at which driver i was using again. all is well now
[00:06] <TJ-> romualdo: Well the DMI info provided by the BIOS is definitely incorrect as to the memory-mapping, so it looks like the BIOS has a bug and Linux isn't aware of it, but Windows drivers probably are
[00:06] <OneM_Industries> Odd, not seeing the .desktop file anywhere.
[00:06] <g2000> neorpheus: You're welcome!
[00:06] <TJ-> romualdo: do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" please
[00:07] <neorpheus> now to figure out if i can get Space Engineers working in linux =3
[00:08] <OneM_Industries> I am not seeing the .desktop file anywhere.
[00:08] <g2000> OneM_Industries: Not even when you do a dash search? Try to log out and in again, this should really fix it Oo
[00:08] <OneM_Industries> "Dash search"?
[00:08] <romualdo> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11996845/
[00:09] <romualdo> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/11996845
[00:10] <g2000> OneM_Industries: Search for it in the unity dash
[00:10] <onegone> testing
[00:10] <TJ-> romualdo: Arggh, that's got systemd logging hasn't it. Hate it! No system text logs
[00:10] <OneMatt> I am using Lubuntu, which does not use unity, as far as I know.
[00:11] <onegone> lll
[00:11] <barnex> Hey, could someone maybe explain what's going on in bmon? See screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/PF6zGu4.png
[00:11] <romualdo> TJ-: a friend said about something called PAE, that deals with large amount of memory, is not the case ?
[00:11] <barnex> What I don't understand is how p3p1 has no transfer (TX bps) yet it's child (? what it even is?) has some
[00:12] <onegone> gggg
[00:12] <barnex> And ifconfig doesn't know about the transfer in p3p1 apparently, it's always at 0.0B for p3p1
[00:12] <OneMatt> Not seeing it, g2000.
[00:12] <barnex> And the traffic isn't logged in any of the interfaces ;o
[00:13] <TJ-> romualdo: I'd hope you're using the 64-bit release (amd64) in which case it won't matter. check with "dpkg --print-architecture"
[00:14] <romualdo> TJ-: amd64
[00:14] <TJ-> romualdo: Good, so PAE doesn't enter into it that's only for allowing 32-bit systems to access more than 4GB
[00:15] <g2000> OneMatt: Oh sorry, i did not know that. But it should be the same directory for all ubuntu flavours.
[00:16] <g2000> OneMatt: could you paste the contents of your starter at http://paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link, please?
[00:17] <OneMatt> I can type it into the chat, it is only one line.
[00:17] <g2000> OneMatt: Thats why it is not showing up
[00:17] <OneMatt> Oh.
[00:17] <g2000> OneMatt: ill create the file for you (: give me a minute
[00:18] <TJ-> barnex: I believe what you're seeing is as expected with a true Ethernet device
[00:18] <barnex> TJ-: well, can I get transfer stats off of it somehow?
[00:22] <TJ-> barnex: I'm not sure; I would think there's some kind of config for bmon to isolate what you want
[00:22] <barnex> TJ-: yeah, probably. thanks.
[00:23] <TJ-> barnex: I see the same thing here with the physical Ethernet interfaces
[00:24] <g2000> OneMatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11996905/ this should do the trick.
[00:25] <OneMatt> Replace %f with the file path?
[00:27] <g2000> OneMatt: Depends on how you want to use the file. Do you want a starter for your specific application or to open JAR files with java by clicking on them?
[00:27] <TJ-> barnex: looks like the extra info about the queue discipline comes from bmon defaulting to using the netlink input module. Try "sudo bmon --input=proc" that output might be more like what you want
[00:27] <barnex> TJ-: thanks
[00:28] <OneMatt> Ah, so keep it as %f to open all different types of java files?
[00:29] <g2000> OneMatt: Yes, this should work if you select the starter as the default application to open jar files.
[00:31] <OneMatt> Odd, still not seeing it under the applications tab...
[00:32] <romualdo> TJ-: no idea how can i fix the memory issue so ?
[00:33] <TJ-> romualdo: without being able to see the boot dmesg log there's not way to know
[00:33] <romualdo> TJ-: and how i enable dmesg log ?
[00:35] <TJ-> romualdo: systemd has made the logs binary; you'll need to tell it to dump the dmesg log as text
[00:35] <romualdo> TJ-: and how i tell ?
[00:36] <g2000> OneMatt: brb
[00:37] <TJ-> romualdo: I can't tell you; I son't use systemd
[00:37] <romualdo> TJ-: hummm, I will try discover it
[00:37] <Spider> test
[00:38] <jaye2> hello. does anyone know where i can find a list of all the preinstalled packages in server 14.04? there's a manifest for the desktop version here, but not for the server version http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[00:39] <Spider> test
[00:39] <jamesd> test failed
[00:39] <Spider> dang
[00:39] <wafflejock> Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
[00:39] <Spider> i guess i broke it
[00:40] <g2000> OneMatt: The file works perfectly for me /:
[00:40] <TJ-> jaye2: see http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/trusty/daily/current/
[00:40] <OneMatt> Odd.
[00:40] <g2000> OneMatt: should show up as "OpenJDK 7 Runtime"
[00:40] <OneMatt> Under what section?
[00:41] <OneMatt> Because in lubuntu, the applications are split up into sections by function.
[00:41] <jaye2> TJ-: thank you
[00:42] <g2000> OneMatt: is there something like "miscellaneous"?
[00:43] <OneMatt> Not seeing one.
[00:44] <ianorlyn> OneMatt, try typing openjdk in the run dialog?
[00:45] <g2000> OneMatt: Just try to right-click your jar file, select "Other application..." or similar. In the new window select "OpenJDK 7 Runtime"
[00:45] <OneMatt> That is what I am doing, OpenJDK Runtime is not showing up.
[00:46] <OneMatt> And I have opened up every category.
[00:46] <TJ-> OneMatt: "apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre"
[00:46] <g2000> OneMatt: can you type in a custom command in the "other application..." window? did not know you are using lubuntu when i suggested using a .desktop file.
[00:46] <xprophetx> best size for root partition?
[00:47] <OneMatt> Yes, I can use a custom command.
[00:47] <g2000> OneMatt: Perfect.
[00:47] <g2000> OneMatt: Get rid of the desktop file and just use "/usr/bin/java -jar %f" as a custom command.
[00:49] <g2000> OneMatt: I originally thought you were using unity. In unity there is no "custom command" option afaik.
[00:50] <elisa87>  hey, I assume I have eventually made a bootable usb http://i.imgur.com/mHwxFdn.png I am not sure if this is correct. I don't know how to boot to USB in Windows8.1 I have tried http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4935-startup-options-menu-boot-windows-8-a.html but even here when I restart there is no option for booting from USB! Any help is really appreciated!!!
[00:50] <OneMatt> It lives!
[00:52] <OneMatt> And it doesn't work because of internet settings. Kill me now...
[00:52] <g2000> OneMatt: wtf? :D
[00:53] <OneMatt> Yeah, it executes, but refuses to load up.
[00:53] <OneMatt> Anyway, that is an issue for the #minecraft channel on espernet.
[00:53] <OneMatt> Thank you!
[00:53] <TJ-> elisa87: If the system has Windows 8.1 the firmware of the PC will be UEFI. You'll need to disable 'fastboot' in Windows and ensure the UEFI setup is also set not to do fastboot, if it has that option
[00:54] <g2000> haha
[00:54] <g2000> you are welcome
[00:55] <OneMatt> My friend+linux+me having use linux for more than 5 seconds="Hey, can you get this working?".
[00:59] <elisa87> TJ-: how should I disable fastboot?
[01:00] <TJ-> elisa87: There's some setting in Windows to disable it; check the Windows docs.
[01:01] <TIOTROLLAZO> hola
[01:01] <TIOTROLLAZO> hola
[01:02] <TIOTROLLAZO> :v
[01:02] <OneMatt> Hello!
[01:03] <TIOTROLLAZO> hi speak spanish ?
[01:04] <TJ-> !es | TIOTROLLAZO
[01:06] <elisa87> even though I disabled fast boot in power options in windows 8, I still can't boot from the bootable Ubuntu USB! Any idea what else I can do?
[01:07] <elisa87> I have checked the advanced settings in recovery in PC setting but still the same !!!
[01:09] <daftykins> elisa87: you should be entering the EFI and looking for the boot menu, or pressing a key to get the boot menu. which system is this?
[01:09] <elisa87> It is a Dell laptop with Intel 5th generation CPU daftykins
[01:11] <daftykins> and then the user was gone
[01:11] <Gajanan> How to change cursor icon in ubuntu 14
[01:15] <Havixil> I am using Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS. Is there a piece of software that will show me installed packages and their dependencies and broken packages and stuff like that?
[01:17] <slicepaperwords> hello
[01:17] <slicepaperwords> best irc client for ubuntu?
[01:18] <Bashing-om> Havixil: Have you examined 'synaptic' ?
[01:19] <Havixil> I usually just install from .debs instead of using software centers and things. I will check that out thanks.
[01:19] <Bashing-om> !best | slicepaperwords
[01:19] <mancomunado> I've deleted "flash" titled itens on apper since lightspark bugged my browser, and now youtube is crashing. Seems obvious something has been suitable to the dependencies there. So could you please help my ask to quote necessary flash dependencies to make firefox (iceweasel) work again natively? regards
[01:20] <esr_> hi
[01:20] <esr_> someone here has experience installing Ubuntu and Manjaro side to side? the Manjaro partition goes into a kernel panic
[01:21] <esr_> i did various reinstalls
[01:23] <wileee> esr_, Ubuntu should have nothing to do with this, there support is what's needed.
[01:23] <wileee> their*
[01:23] <elisa87> so I have tried Del, f2 and F12(said by my notebook) when restarting to go to boot option or bios. None worked. It is a Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition. Any idea what I can do!?! I need to change the boot order inorder to boot from the bootable Ubuntu usb
[01:24] <esr_> ok, I though because it has ubuntu as well, maybe can be related as well
[01:24] <andygraybeal> is there a "toddler" or "child" mode for ubuntu?  something that restricts keystrokes.. and keeps them on a certain application/game?
[01:24] <daftykins> elisa87: shutdown by running "shutdown -s -t 1" in Windows, then power on and keep pressing F12 repeatedly.
[01:24] <esr_> thx anyway
[01:24] <daftykins> elisa87: Dell machines _definitely_ are F12
[01:25] <daftykins> elisa87: so unless this is a work or education machine where you don't have the right to install another OS, so it's locked down, it really should work.
[01:25] <elisa87> I have pressed f12 during the whole restart!!! it didn't work!!! it it driving me nuts daftykins
[01:25] <esr_> actually has Peach OSI an Manjaro
[01:25] <daftykins> elisa87: restart isn't what i said
[01:26] <elisa87> nah it is bought for me by my adviser and I am given full administration. I have installed Windows 8.1 enterprise on it and wiped the Win7 and I now need the Ubuntu 14.04 for my robotics project! daftykins
[01:26] <daftykins> enterprise is only allowed for companies - sounds illegal to me
[01:26] <elisa87> I even tried the shut down and advanced setting in PC setting in recovery section. none worked. What did you mean daftykins
[01:27] <elisa87> Our department gives us the right to download the enterprise version of Windows8.1 for projects
[01:27] <elisa87> I have installed Windows8.1 enterprise in my other laptop in school which is for my other job. It is a Gigabyte notebook and by pressing F2 I can go to BIOS setting! daftykins
[01:27] <tgm4883> daftykins: there are plenty of legal ways to get enterprise. MSDN, Technet, you're a company
[01:28] <tgm4883> daftykins: academic alliance
[01:28] <elisa87> It is not a company. It is University of Wisconsin-Madison. tgm4883 daftykins
[01:28] <daftykins> elisa87: that doesn't have anything to do with the Dell though
[01:29] <tgm4883> elisa87: I didn't say you were, I was just listing several legit ways of having enterprise
[01:29] <Rave1> does this laptop have a legacy boot option?
[01:29] <wileee> elisa87, Well known for their intercultural program and approach. ;)
[01:29] <daftykins> legacy has no relevance
[01:29] <elisa87> daftykins: what was the way you wanted me to press f12 as you said don't press it during restart?
[01:29] <daftykins> elisa87: i typed it already above, i'm not going to type it again to save you scrolling up
[01:29] <elisa87> Rave1: yeah my BIOS mode is legacy is that is what you are asking in msinfo32
[01:30] <Rave1> legacy had lots of relavance  to boot from usb on some of mine
[01:30] <tgm4883> Rave1: I don't believe you can boot 8.1 in legacy mode
[01:30] <daftykins> sure can
[01:30] <daftykins> elisa87: you installed 8 in legacy mode? o0
[01:30] <Rave1> user is asking to boot a live USB freom what I read
[01:31] <elisa87> ok I missed that. so by pressing f12 repeatedly you mean I shouldn't put my finger off the f12 button, right?> just to make sure?
[01:31] <tgm4883> daftykins: I thought 8.1 required UEFI?
[01:31] <elisa87> daftykins: I have no idea what I did, I just burn the ISO into a dvd and followed the step! Literally not sure Microsoft has set up for me
[01:32] <Rave1> so if you cant boot win 8.1 in legacy how is it I installed on old machine pre UEFI
[01:32] <daftykins> tgm4883: newp
[01:33] <daftykins> elisa87: sorry that second half doesn't make any sense to me
[01:33] <elisa87> I don't approve of my Windows knowlege! Back to Windows after quite a while due to some Intel and Microsoft hardwares!! that is all! haha
[01:33] <daftykins> elisa87: quite honestly F12 should give a boot menu on a Dell regardless, use F2 to enter the BIOS instead and have a look around - maybe F12 is disabled
[01:34] <daftykins> lots of exclamations! not a lot on topic!
[01:34] <elisa87> I'll try and come back and ping. I won't be able to see messages meanwhile! thanks for the help!!!!!
[01:43] <wileee> tgm4883, W8 installs msdos if your setup that way, I'm in it right now.
[01:44] <wileee> err upgraded to W10 actually same file system
[01:44] <MadOtis> Hello all, I'm trying to install 15.04 (server) on an older Dell PowerSpec 1U rack machine.  I've tried both 32 and 64 CD's (and I've confirmed that the machine is an early 64 bit architecture w/ 2 Xeon 64-bit CPUs)...  I can boot up to the language selection page, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere after that, as in Enter key doesn't seem to progress to the bootup of the install image.
[01:44] <MadOtis> Any suggestions?  I know the keyboard works, too.
[01:45] <daftykins> MadOtis: does it have a slim optical drive?
[01:45] <jamesd> grab an older version see that works better older hardware works better with older software
[01:45] <daftykins> i assume you used DVDs
[01:45] <daftykins> !mini | MadOtis this one might be worth a go
[01:45] <MadOtis> daftykins: Yes, it does.
[01:46] <pepee> why doesn't the ubuntu version of diff in diffutils have the --git flag?
[01:46] <jamesd> old version? not compiled with the --git option enabled?  not sure..
[01:46] <MadOtis> ubotto: I have the server cd image burned.  I'll try the download install version... thanks.
[01:47] <pepee> MadOtis, ubottu is a bot
[01:48] <MadOtis> pepee:  Doh!  I see that now.  Lol.
[01:50] <daftykins> MadOtis: you have server, but i suggested mini :)
[01:50] <daftykins> (via the bot)
[01:53] <MadOtis> !mini
[01:53] <daftykins> heh i never get why people repeat the factoid trigger
[01:54] <MadOtis> I'm old and have forgotten how to use IRC.  <facepalm>
[01:54] <daftykins> :)
[01:55] <MadOtis> mini.iso burning now.
[02:08] <avish> hhello
[02:08] <avish> hello everyone
[02:08] <MadOtis> Damn... same issue with the mini.iso.  Does the server install not recognize a USB keyboard?
[02:08] <avish> hahah
[02:08] <avish> uhmm nop
[02:09] <avish> they didnot
[02:09] <avish> i quit too
[02:09] <jamesd> i think i heard about that issue years ago.. so that may be the case...  try using the drac to configure it or dig up a ps2 keyboard
[02:12] <MadOtis> Got it going... BIOS had USB support on without bios support.  Once I enabled WITH bios support, its trucking along.  Thank you!!!
[02:14] <Shed-34046> Is Ubuntu lighter on resources than windows 8
[02:18] <wafflejock> Shed-34046, it all depends on what programs/services you're running on the OS how heavy/light it will be, typically you can make a linux system run lighter than a windows system
[02:19] <wafflejock> https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20minimum%20requirements  vs  https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=windows+8+minimum+requirements
[02:19] <Shed-34046> wafflejock I was talking about in general
[02:20] <marioxcc> I tried to install Memtest86+ using synaptic but it hanged. I had to kill it, then I ran "dpkg --configure -a". What should I do in order to make sure my system is bootable?.
[02:21] <Shed-34046> My laptop has a dual core CPU (intel pentium b960) and 4GB DDR3 ram.. Idk if it was because i just got done with a game on windows and shutdown and tried live usb for 30 minutes but.. My laptop was kinda warm..
[02:21] <Shed-34046> Maybe i should try it now..
[02:21] <Shed-34046> brb guys :)
[02:21] <wafflejock> Shed-34046, well the minimum requirements of ubuntu are about half of that of windows 8 so you can gather what you will from that but they are different systems running different programs and ultimately it depends on those programs how demanding the system is overall on your resources, in my experience it seems faster but you would need to do benchmarking of various tasks to decide scientifically
[02:30] <shed-34046> hey :)
[02:31] <shed-34046> i'm testing ubuntu and right now it says its using 901.3MiB (23.5%) of 3.7GB is that lower than windows?
[02:31] <notaeon> about the same
[02:31] <notaeon> windows 10 is around 1gb
[02:32] <shed-34046> o_o
[02:32] <notaeon> on linux you can go lower, much lower
[02:32] <shed-34046> notaeon how do i find out the temperature of the cpu right now?
[02:32] <notaeon> i think i got ~60mb booted into openbox
[02:32] <jeffrey_f> can anyone suggest where I can download a vanilla server VirtualBox VDI.
[02:32] <shed-34046> on windows 10 my computer ran at 31C and my pc couldn't really run windows 10 due to non-compatibility
[02:33] <notaeon> shed-34046: about temps, here's wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:34] <notaeon> ram (desktop anyways) prices are falling again anyways
[02:35] <gvpm> hi
[02:36] <maybejojo333> hello!
[02:36] <shed-34046> notaeon right now sensors says physical id 0: +51C high = 80C crit = 85C at crit would my CPU shut down for protection
[02:36] <shed-34046> not cpu but laptop
[02:36] <gvpm> Firt time using IRSSI, trying to figure all out here
[02:36] <redditcat> I'm trying to use snort to detect http traffic being forwarded via ssh socks through server.  My snort rule http://pastebin.com/easV4v22
[02:37] <marioxcc> I tried to install Memtest86+ using synaptic but it hanged. I had to kill it, then I ran "dpkg --configure -a". What should I do in order to make sure my system is bootable?.
[02:37] <Bashing-om> gvpm: #irssi is a useful resource .
[02:38] <gvpm> You guys have any good website with search for irc chats?
[02:38] <wafflejock> shed-34046, yup at critical it should cut off to save the CPU
[02:39] <bazhang> searchirc.com gvpm , more on #freenode
[02:39] <wileee> marioxcc, Can you give, if you can what caused the broken boot, what ubuntu release, ?
[02:40] <wileee> or is this just a worry it will boot?
[02:40] <jeffrey_f> I need a prebuilt Ubuntu server for VirtualBox.  Vanilla if possible.
[02:41] <wolflarson> so .. mount the iso and install
[02:41] <wolflarson> I give you prebuilt + backdoor built in as well
[02:41] <shed-34046> wafflejock right now its seems ubuntu isn't as hot as win8 makes it like usually 60-65C
[02:43] <marioxcc> Assume my GRUB installation is broken due to a misbehaving Ubuntu installation script, what should I do *in order to fix it* (reporting the bug doesn't fixes it)?
[02:43] <wafflejock> shed-34046, good to hear, yeah in windows the search indexer has tendency to do a lot of background processing same with the update tools
[02:43] <wileee> marioxcc, Was this the server install I saw earlier?
[02:43] <notaeon> marioxcc: reinstall grub?
[02:43] <wileee> and a grub bot link given?
[02:44] <marioxcc> notaeon: Which commands?.
[02:44] <marioxcc> wileee: I think that you are confusing me, no, I have not asked about a server install.
[02:45] <wileee> mariorz, It was a simple question, yes or no. ;)
[02:45] <datahood> topic
[02:45] <notaeon> !fixgrub
[02:46] <notaeon> marioxcc: see above links
[02:46] <marioxcc> Thanks notaeon
[02:48] <datahood> how would I go about uninstalling ubuntu?
[02:48] <wileee> datahood, install over it or delete it, there is no uninstall.
[02:49] <wileee> datahood, This a boot issue, you will loose the grub boot, unless you have another linux controlling grub there.
[02:49] <datahood> wileee<ok how do I delete it if I can not boot from disc on restart<f-12
[02:50] <wileee> datahood, So you are not able to boot the install media? Have you been here with this before?
[02:51] <datahood> wileee<..yes we tried and tried different things all yesterday...surprise you do not remember our convo
[02:52] <wileee> datahood, I do.
[02:52] <wileee> that is why I ask
[02:52] <wileee> somewhat anyway, seems familiar
[02:52] <datahood> wileee<  remember I installed the wrong bit of ubuntu
[02:53] <datahood> wileee< 32 instead of 64
[02:54] <datahood> wileee< so will deleting the grub solve my problem?
[02:54] <wileee> datahood, Not clearly, I'm an scientific inquiry user, I want the facts. ;)
[02:54] <datahood> wileee< facts like?
[02:54] <wileee> datahood, I suspect I wont be able to help, is all, sorry.
[02:55] <datahood> wilee<< ok..no problem
[02:58] <Spider> test
[03:03] <mnathani_> service iptables save
[03:03] <mnathani_> whats the ubuntu equivalent of that
[03:03] <Bocephus> anybody have any recomendations for a user friendly encryption // I tried multiple softwares in the software center but no real luck
[03:04] <Bocephus> document encryption  or a better full circle solution besides encrytping my entire hard drive
[03:08] <Bocephus> guess its to vague of a question
[03:09] <gvpm> oi
[03:12] <maxride> I have a bit of a question...I have linux installed on sda6 and want to expand the partition. sda4 is a data partition and I have no idea what sda7 is....sda8 is a recovery partition that can go...any advice on the best way to do this?   GParted screenshot: http://imgur.com/glb2wYb
[03:13] <redrum187> Every time I boot, my screen brighness returns to default.  I have not found any threads in the forum about his that deal with 14.04 LTS
[03:13] <redrum187> How do I disable this?
[03:16] <firmlyhypervisor> New Link user here...so not much is easy thus far...but I really like the cont you use any cloud based storage Boxcryptor is nice and easy. If you want a premium tool Jetico Bestcrypt would be worth looking into. I am sure there is a ton...but those are all solid no matter which platform you are on. throwing it out there as my first post...hope it helps. I have a lot to learn about running Ubuntu/GNU/Linux
[03:17] <firmlyhypervisor> @Bocephus ^ replied
[03:18] <artois> what the...
[03:19] <wileee> redrum187, Try this link last post with the 'gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local' command
[03:19] <artois> redrum187: what do you want it to be?
[03:19] <artois> maxride: looks like Windows insanity
[03:19] <artois> maxride: no point looking for sense in it
[03:19] <redrum187> wileee: ~20% of max or so by default
[03:20] <redrum187> wileee: what link?
[03:20] <maxride> atrois:  Thanks....I'm thinking that wiping the drive is probably my best bet....
[03:20] <wileee> redrum187, Doh https://askubuntu.com/questions/151651/brightness-is-reset-to-maximum-on-every-restart  heh sorry
[03:20] <redrum187> Cool, thanks I'll give it a read.
[03:21] <firmlyhypervisor> sorry bad typos in my last post...not sure if the form went into space as I was typiing or what. Aplogies.
[03:22] <wileee> firmlyhypervisor, Ubuntu support is all, that is not even close. ;)
[03:22] <firmlyhypervisor> @Bocephus my first choice would be PGP for your encryption...last reply didn't make much sense.
[03:23] <redrum187> wileee: it said I did not have gksudo, so I ran "sudo apt-get install gksudo"
[03:24] <wileee> RedRum sudo apt-get install gksu  than run gksudo
[03:24] <firmlyhypervisor> > wileee :-0 Sorry man, my keyboard has been up a long time.
[03:25] <redrum187> Is "sudo apt-get install gksudo" different than "sudo apt-get install gksu"?
[03:25] <wileee> redrum187, gksu is the base for running gksudo basically, you could run gksu
[03:26] <wileee> redrum187, the gk=graphic
[03:26] <redrum187> will gksudo and gksu install the same thing?
[03:27] <wileee> redrum187, It is not the install choice this command is for but to call for a password, and run the file in a graphic shell.
[03:28] <wileee> !gksu
[03:29] <wileee> redrum187, Excellent questions, you want to understand, in the word of Martha Stewart "it is a good thing". ;)
[03:30] <redrum187> Thanks.  I worry too often I'm not asking the right questions.
[03:30] <redrum187> I ran cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness and it printed 1015, I thought the ranges were either 1-10 or 1-100?
[03:31] <wileee> redrum187, It gets easier, here you will recognize the people here everyday if you lurk enough and know whom to follow to learn.
[03:31] <esr_> :)
[03:34] <wileee> redrum187, you don;t run it but put in the opened file and choose for 1-4 I believe for brightness default.  WE are really just testing if this will work, it can be removed no harm done, if not working.
[03:34] <redrum187> I just decided to run the command at lowest brightness and highest brightness.  When in doubt, do tests.  I determined my brightness range is from 78 to 7812.  Weird.
[03:35] <wileee> redrum187, If this changes the default you will have to tweak it how you like by changing that X value
[03:36] <SpeakFreely_> Can someone help me. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a usb by running it in a VM. I use the command: "sudo qemu-system-x86_64 /dev/sdb ./Documents/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.so" and get "unable to mount root fs on unkownblock (0,0)"
[03:37] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Full install?
[03:37] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, What do you mean? I'm running this on my ubuntu laptop if that's what you're asking
[03:38] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Just can't follow the issue, and wondering why the vm is all.
[03:39] <wileee> end goal maybe?
[03:39] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, Oh my end goal is to have a persitent version of ubuntu on a usb
[03:39] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16988/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-to-a-usb-key-without-using-startup-disk-creator
[03:40] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, easier done from any regular desktop, linux, ms or apple. That is a much harder road is all.
[03:41] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, care to point me to a tutorial? last one I tried left me with a live cd version instead of an actual instal
[03:42] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, a iso with a persistence is not an actual install, it is still live.
[03:42] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, oh, well is there a way to do an actual install on a usb?
[03:42] <wileee> actual install meaning from the live..etc
[03:42] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, two media is all olne to boot and install to the other, which is a usb or HD.
[03:43] <wileee> one*
[03:43] <SpeakFreely_> WildSoft, are you saying creating a live cd, boot from that and then install onto the usb?
[03:44] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, actual install is way to vague here as well, two basic types, iso live, or full install.
[03:45] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, I guess full install in this case
[03:45] <Ben64> it will be horribly slow on a usb
[03:45] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Cool yeah a disk or usb boot of the live, or from your grub, and install to a usb.
[03:45] <wileee> very slow yeah
[03:46] <SpeakFreely_> I'm just using it for mining a cryptocoin
[03:46] <Ben64> well, don't
[03:46] <wileee> I would follow that advice myself
[03:46] <SpeakFreely_> ?
[03:46] <SpeakFreely_> why
[03:47] <wileee> I know the users skill level for one, and the issue as well.
[03:47] <Ben64> there probably is a livecd that already can do that, running a full install from usb will be very slow
[03:48] <SpeakFreely_> Would a livecd be faster or are they both slow in this case?
[03:48] <Ben64> livecd is faster
[03:49] <SpeakFreely_> Would you recommend any tutorials for livecd with persistence?
[03:49] <Ben64> !persistent
[03:51] <SpeakFreely_> thanks
[03:55] <SpeakFreely_> does usb-creator-gtk usually take awhile? seems to be hanging on 49%
[03:55] <cfhowlett> SpeakFreely_, normal.  be patient
[03:56] <cfhowlett> SpeakFreely_, it could do a better job of reporting feedback so it doesn't appear stuck
[03:57] <SpeakFreely_> Cool thanks, just wanted to restart it if it was messed up
[03:59] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, building the persistent takes a little time, especially if the full 4gigs.
[03:59] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, I made it 1 GB, going to try the resizing trick it talks about
[04:00] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, not sure what would be resized, How big is the usb?
[04:00] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, 32 GB
[04:00] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, the casper-rw file resized?
[04:01] <SpeakFreely_> wileee,  yes
[04:01] <antiPoP> Hi, currently I'm using xrdp to copnnect  to a ubuntu computer. It works almost well, but I can't get fixed the keyboard layout issues even after following some tutorials. I have seem some vnc tutorials but they look a mess to setup. Is there some other alternative to remote connection?
[04:01] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, YOu can make a casper-rw partition and use all the usb if you want.
[04:04] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, I'll prolly just make it 8 GB
[04:06] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Never heard of resizing the file, sounds like a really bad idea, but that is an opinion, Be careful and remember that casper-rw is not really easily accessible off the live and all your persistence, if damaged or removed it is all gone.
[04:07] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, is it right if i have my 1 partition 3.16GB and the 2nd persistence the rest of the usb?
[04:07] <friendlylaptop1> Hi there, I'm looking to find out what the DE is on trusty tahr?
[04:08] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, ubuntu = unity
[04:08] <cfhowlett> !flavors | friendlylaptop1
[04:08] <friendlylaptop1> i think it is gnome 2, but I could be wrong. also, where do I find a list of distro's with the DE's?
[04:08] <friendlylaptop1> nice, thx
[04:09] <friendlylaptop1> so would ubuntu always be unity then?
[04:09] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, I'm not a big fan of this, but it is either a casper file in the OS or a partition. If you have a partitioned casper, you only need a partition just slightly bigger than the iso, as nothing is saved there.
[04:09] <wileee> I would run light, lxde or lubuntu or openbox as lighter.
[04:10] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, when I had mint, I was using lxde, right? What would be the benefit of switching to gnome?
[04:11] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, allow me to hijack your question: I'm interested in other DE's.  How can I test them easily?  simple
[04:11] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, I see. Hope this works, last time I tried this method it said there was not enough space when I tried updating
[04:12] <friendlylaptop1> yes, that's EXACTLY what i want to know....:)
[04:12] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde-plasma-desktop gnome
[04:12] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, then: logout/choose an alternate DE/login      and test to your heart's delight
[04:12] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, will i still be able to switch back to unity?
[04:12] <cfhowlett> yes
[04:12] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, great, thank you sooooo much!!!
[04:12] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, happy to help.
[04:13] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, That is another issue, you don't have the updates like normal, you will miss security updates likely, it is not really designed to be taking all upgrades. Still just the iso but now with an upgrade script.
[04:13] <bigbossie> hey
[04:13] <bigbossie> what's up all?
[04:13] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, I would run a light vm if it were me.
[04:14] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, will I be able to install gfx card drivers?
[04:14] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, probably, kernels are an issue as I remember. I'm not up on every limitation is all, it can be unstable if messed with enough.
[04:15] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, alright, well thanks for all the help :)
[04:15] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, You need to travel with this stick?
[04:16] <wileee> to other computers...etc?
[04:17] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, Nah I just don't feel like dual booting with my windows comp, which is where my gfx card is
[04:18] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Use a vm, you can run both.
[04:19] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, VMs don't degrade access to a gfx card?
[04:20] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, virtualbox has it's own drivers you will give up ram and some cpu
[04:21] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, can it access the full amount of RAM on the card though?
[04:22] <wileee> SpeakFreely_,  You split ram off for it, a really light vn a gig will probably do it, not sure though with what you will run.
[04:22] <wileee> vm*
[04:22] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, are you talking about regular RAM or the gfx card's memory?
[04:23] <Spider> test
[04:23] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, so I installed them, but now it is asking me to specify a default display manager, with these options: gdm, kdm, or lightdm. which is the one least likely to cause me problems?
[04:23] <friendlylaptop1> please and thank you :)
[04:23] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, regular ram, your graphics card will ot be used in virtualbox, they have drivers.
[04:23] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, kdm = kde, gdm = gnome and lightdm for everything else
[04:23] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, Okay thank you
[04:24] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, ok thanks that's great.
[04:24] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, No problem, just mess around till your happy.
[04:24] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, you don't happen to know which distro comes with gnome do you?
[04:24] <doctorly> What is the best website for writing tutorials? Like, something that is popular and has really good markdown.
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !gnome | friendlylaptop1
[04:25] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, will do :D wish there weren't 2-3 programs holding me back from switching to linux for good
[04:25] <friendlylaptop1> sweet. thx
[04:25] <cfhowlett> doctorly, I believe you'll find wiki is the default here
[04:25] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, most of us dualboot, or at least some, may be linux multiboots, apple, ms.
[04:26] <doctorly> cfhowlett: which wiki? Like is there a specific website? Or do you mean the ubuntu wiki?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> doctorly, right. ubuntu wiki type seems to be the standard
[04:27] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, hmm maybe I'll have to give dual booting another go. Last time I did it somehow OSs ended up getting corrupted
[04:28] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Easier to corrupt windows in that scenario, generally not resizing or having the fast boot in a uefi, not so often with ubuntu or linux. Anything is possible though.
[04:28] <wileee> resizing correctly*
[04:29] <cfhowlett> doctorly, I did a bit of digging.  "moinmoin" wiki might be the clue you seek. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MoinMoin
[04:29] <SpeakFreely_> Yeah I believe it was windows that corrupted. Again wish these few programs weren't holding me back lol
[04:30] <wileee> SpeakFreely_, Do what you need to do, I have windows for word basically, got it all cheap from academic, really cheap lol.
[04:30] <SpeakFreely_> wileee, I'm pretty much only keeping it for gaming and taking notes lol, can't find a note-taking app on *nix that isn't shit
[04:31] <doctorly> cfhowlett: Actually both answers don't really do what I need. I need wiki type formating, but somewhere I can easily submit a guide. Can I post a guide on the Ubuntu wiki...?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> doctorly, yes you can post a guide on ubuntu
[04:34] <antiPoP> I have an  radeon xpress 1100 IGP and teh driver fails to load in 15.04. has somebody the same issue?
[04:34] <doctorly> cfhowlett: Ok awesome, thanks! I will try that right now.
[04:35] <cfhowlett> doctorly, lots
[04:35] <cfhowlett> of user / community wikis here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[04:36] <mancomunado> So, everytime I try to install a source code make stuck me for dependencies. It's quite insane they don't teach you how to install the dependencies on the compiler readme. How to perform it?
[04:37] <wileee> mancomunado, Why are you installing source code?
[04:38] <mancomunado> wileee, that's what the cool guys are doing now
[04:39] <cfhowlett> mancomunado, that doesn't even make sense but ...
[04:39] <squinty> ....and cross posting in the debian channel too
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !compile | mancomunado
[04:39] <wileee> mancomunado, Really, you seem to be failing though.
[04:40] <wileee> it's what people who know what there doing might do
[04:48] <friendlylaptop1> cfhowlett, it worked! I am sooooo happy!!! (I have a DE boner)
[04:49] <cfhowlett> friendlylaptop1, ewwwwwwwww.  I'm happy to have helped but ... !PHRASING!
[04:49] <friendlylaptop1> lol, i know i know.....
[04:49] <friendlylaptop1> i just had to tell you :)
[05:08] <wafflejock> mancomunado, if you're getting source of something that is in apt-get you can use apt-get to get the source and the build dependencies (using source and build-dep options)
[05:08] <wafflejock> mancomunado, if it's something from somewhere else then you have to rely on the source to tell you what dependencies it has
[05:22] <pikawubz> how come i am not able to change refresh rate in the display settings?
[05:25] <wileee> pikawubz, look at man xrandr in  the terminal.
[05:25] <wileee> run just xrandr as a refrence as well
[05:28] <pikawubz> i try to change it with xrandr -r but it keeps saying "Rate is not available for this size"
[05:28] <pikawubz> which is 1920x1080 btw
[05:32] <pikawubz> the main reason im trying to do this is because i want to fix screen tear
[05:38] <wafflejock> pikawubz, I kind of feel that's not likely to fix screen tear, screen tear happens cause the video buffer isn't fully updated when the screen redraws, there are a few sync technologies I've heard of pretty recently to fix the issue but I doubt changing refresh rate will help much
[05:38] <pikawubz> ok
[05:40] <pikawubz> wafflejock, what are these sync technologies and how do i try them
[06:11] <darkangel> Hello i was just wondering in Ubuntu is it possible to limit a folder gb or mb size with a C++ file like quota can?
[06:13] <parapan> hi fellows, I need some help with a booting issue ..
[06:13] <parapan> can somebody competent support ?
[06:13] <badbodh> ^ that's insulting. incompetent like me can support too.
[06:13] <badbodh> just ask and wait.
[06:16] <parapan> badbodh: :)) pls don't take it that way .....I have a messy situation with a 3 system boot ....Win 7, win XP and Ubuntu 12.04 . . .
[06:17] <badbodh> been there, done that. what's the issue ?
[06:18] <parapan> it seems that mount points are all over the 3 HDD's I have; XP mount is in sdb1 ( and is reported to be full - causing problem when booting - missing NTLDR error ); w7 is mounted into sdc1, ubuntu 12.04 - I don't know now ...
[06:21] <badbodh> parapan, xp does have a nasty habit of placing ntldr in another partition other than C drive. if you installed win7 after it, that probably removed ntldr/boot.ini etc files.
[06:21] <parapan> problem is: when starting the PC I get the NTLDR missing error; I have to manually press F8, choose the second HDD to make it boot to W7; it seems that HDD2 is on SATA 1 on my PC; when booting to W7 I get the grub loader . . but when trying to boot ubuntu 12.04 I get the comman line . .
[06:21] <parapan> and the error that HDD uuid is missing ...
[06:22] <parapan> badbodh: You're the man; that was exactly the issue
[06:23] <badbodh> but it appears your issue is more than that. you got bootloaders of three os-s in three diff hard drives. at a time you can boot to only one of them.
[06:24] <parapan> badbodh: Now I have this crazy ideea that I can fix the booting issue with linux/ubuntu ...already booted from USB installed the boot-recovery .. but get the error ob sdb1 (win XP) being full partition and that will create problem when booting; even if I repair the boot, the next reboot ends up with the same NTLDR issue . .
[06:24] <omkar_> what is the standard way of installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 14.04
[06:24] <omkar_> is it through the nvidia site or ubuntu has customized driver like fedora has
[06:25] <badbodh> omkar_, open software sources, go to the last tab. it lists all third party drivers available.
[06:25] <parapan> badbodh: exactly . . .that's why I said the "competent" thing . . I already tried the usual stuff and didn't worked ...so I think the boot file must be edited manually in order to have a proper fix . .  .
[06:25] <badbodh> parapan, you need to solve boot record of each hard drive/os one by one. starting with xp.
[06:26] <badbodh> what makes you think 'install ubuntu' will fix boot issue ? that's not how any of this works.
[06:26] <parapan> badbodh: I do not need XP anymore ...can I get rid of him ?
[06:26] <badbodh> yes you just have to format that partition. as for the boot loader removal/recovery i'll need more info.
[06:27] <badbodh> if you have ubuntu live usb, boot to that and we can start from there.
[06:27] <parapan> badbodh: didn't installed ...made the try ubuntu, than added the ppa for boot-repair ...and tried to fix -it this way ...that's because it worked before
[06:27] <badbodh> live usb/cd/anything
[06:27] <badbodh> no man, you don't use "apps" to solve boot issues without knowing what caused the issue.
[06:28] <badbodh> fact that you have three diff hard drives only complicates it further
[06:28] <badbodh> for now, boot into live and come join this chat.
[06:28] <parapan> badbodh: correct :D and the drives are the same type =))
[06:29] <parapan> badbodh: be back in 5 minutes bro . . .
[06:29] <omkar_> i m still confused where should i look for open software sources,where in synaptic?
[06:29] <badbodh> parapan, ok.
[06:29] <badbodh> omkar_, which ubuntu version are you on ?
[06:29] <omkar_> trusty 14.04
[06:29] <badbodh> unity ?
[06:30] <omkar_> mate
[06:30] <badbodh> ok go to control center, look for 'software sources'
[06:30] <parapan> badbodh: just one q more; will it help to move the sdb HDD to the SATA0 ?
[06:30] <omkar_> any cli way
[06:30] <omkar_> I want to do for a remote machine,the person is having issues with drivers and i don't want to disturb him
[06:31] <badbodh> omkar_, apt-get install <driver name, which you wil find in 'software sources'>
[06:31] <bujji> where is my start menu?
[06:31] <omkar_> ok
[06:31] <badbodh> parapan, setting all drives to same sata mode will help.
[06:32] <badbodh> bujji, what is your ubuntu version ?
[06:32] <parapan> badbodh: I was thinking the same ....I'll do that
[06:33] <bujji> badbodh: 13.10
[06:33] <badbodh> bujji, 13.10 isn't supported. install 14.04 (lts) or 15.04
[06:34] <badbodh> is it unity ?
[06:34] <baizon> 13.10 isnt supported since 07.2014
[06:34] <suseela> how to copy file with the same permission to another location??
[06:34] <bujji> badbodh: how i can upgrade to 14.04
[06:35] <badbodh> you need to download iso, backup your /home directory, fresh install.
[06:35] <bujji> suseela: cp -p
[06:36] <bujji> badbodh: can't i directly upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04
[06:36] <badbodh> once upon a time bujji , not anymore.
[06:37] <bujji> badbodh: can you give me any link
[06:37] <badbodh> you get about 3 months after a release to upgrade it in-situ
[06:38] <badbodh> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop <- bujji
[06:39] <badbodh> also http://tour.ubuntu.com/en/ to find start-menu etc <- bujji
[06:43] <gartral> ok all, mild emergency... I have a studio system running 14.04 and it's updating, thghe problem is it's trying to install a lot of old kernals and /boot is running out of space... how do I make it unly install the most up to date kernal and keep the currently running one?
[06:44] <badbodh> gartral, open synaptic or software center, search for "linux image generic" see what comes up. remove older versions.
[06:44] <wileee> gartral, Never seen but one kernel set at a time, the studio release has low latency.
[06:45] <badbodh> sorry just "linux image" not generic
[06:45] <gartral> badbodh: problem with that is every other kernal is failing to install cleanly and synaptic is being retarded and not remove the broken packages
[06:45] <bujji> badbodh: linux partions guide?
[06:45] <gartral> wileee: /boot only has 228 MB, set by the installer
[06:46] <wileee> gardar, This is a user error issue, so you know.
[06:46] <badbodh> you may gain some space by "sudo apt-get clean"
[06:46] <badbodh> for broken packages/ unfinished upgrades run "dpkg-reconfigure -a" followed by "apt-get install -f"
[06:46] <badbodh> all with sudo ofc
[06:46] <gartral> wileee: no, it isn't... as "user error" impies I requested 228 MB for boot, the installer automagically gave that too me at install time
[06:47] <wileee> sigh
[06:47] <agent_white> Hold the install, and resize boot instead?
[06:47] <agent_white> s/instead/first/
[06:48] <gartral> agent_white: I would assume the installer wouldn't do something retarded... this isn't a windows install...
[06:48] <badbodh> bujji, you need some google :P i don't remember where i read such guides. been a long time.
[06:49] <wileee> gartral, Stop the drama, you have been in control it is your responsibility, if you want help own your errors
[06:49] <bujji> badbodh: can you give me a good link to follow
[06:49] <devs> hi
[06:49] <badbodh> sorry man, don't remember. it's out there somewhere.
[06:49] <devs> i need people for reverse enginering
[06:50] <gartral> wileee: I do want help, and I wasn't aware that my humor would be construded as drama... I simply want to make sure my system survives a reboot
[06:50] <parapan> badbodh: 5 more minutes bro...I had to undust the PC :D
[06:50] <wileee> !topic | devs
[06:50] <badbodh> google 'linux filesystem' 'mbr' 'fstab' for some digging bujji
[06:50] <badbodh> also read "gparted" documentations
[06:50] <agent_white> gartral: Hahah fair enough. But, again, why not just halt the upgrade, resize boot, deal with the unecessary kernels for the time being and remove them again after?
[06:51] <badbodh> gparted will help with your partitioning.
[06:51] <gartral> agent_white: I don't think I can resize live filesystems
[06:51] <gartral> er
[06:51] <Arbition> I've seen it done
[06:51] <gartral> file systems in use
[06:51] <badbodh> you use live cd and run 'gparted' gartral
[06:52] <Arbition> live extended an LVM then live extended the ext4
[06:52] <agent_white> gartral: Oh I know. I was assuming you would be doing this resize in a normal fashion... is that not possible to take the system off for abit?
[06:52] <gartral> badbodh: can't boot a live disk, I had to install this system over network, and I no longer have the facilities to do so
[06:52] <agent_white> Ahhh.
[06:53] <parapan> badbodh: Ok, one good thing ...moving the second HDD to SATA1 ...it goes to grub directly, without the need of doing F8 . . .
[06:53] <badbodh> sorry gartral , can't get bacon without pigs
[06:53] <gartral> agent_white: I can not, as this machine has no cd/dvd rom, and the only two USB ports are used by the keyboard and mouse
[06:54] <badbodh> parapan, in your bios check your boot device order. whichever is on top will be booted first. if it has grub, grub comes first.
[06:55] <gartral> alright, i'll go through the HARD way, uninstalling all kernals except the running one and re-install the newest
[06:55] <badbodh> gartral, then download an iso, prepare a live-usb with 'startup disk creator'
[06:55] <agent_white> gartral: Ah shoot.  No LVM partitions?
[06:55] <gartral> agent_white: I have LVM
[06:55] <gartral> badbodh: see above, only two USBs, no optical
[06:56] <abir> hi
[06:56] <badbodh> i said 'live-usb' didn't i ?
[06:56] <agent_white> gartral: `apt-get --purge autoclean` to get rid of the other kernels not being used?
[06:56] <gartral> badbodh: how am I suppose to do the install? I have a keyboard, and a mouse... that's 2 USB ports
[06:57] <gartral> agent_white: tried, it doesn't
[06:57] <badbodh> do you have internet (a very stupid question) ?
[06:57] <badbodh> grab an iso, insert your pen drive, make a live-usb
[06:58] <akik> gartral: i think you can manage the install with only the keyboarde
[06:58] <akik> keyboard
[06:58] <gartral> badbodh: I have a USB Keyboard, and a USB Mouse!
[06:58] <badbodh> i've told you several things by now, have you tried running even -one- of those ?
[06:58] <parapan> badbodh: hard to do man; I choose the HDD . . but I have 3 of them, identical one; anyway ...moving the second drive to SATA1 solved partly
[06:58] <gartral> badbodh: yes, I have internet on this machine
[06:58] <badbodh> do you have pen drive ?
[06:59] <gartral> agent_white: i think your command syntax is off "E: Command line option --purge is not understood"
[06:59] <gartral> badbodh: I do, but no free USB ports
[06:59] <parapan> badbodh: anyway, plugged the USB, booting ... on my way to 12.04.live ......
[07:00] <badbodh> gartral, then remove your keyboard, boot to live. do the things. ubuntu has onscreen keyboard, use that.
[07:01] <badbodh> where there is will , there is way. stop assuming we are too stupid to solve your issue.
[07:01] <parapan2> badbodh: on the troubled PC bad(dog); waiting instruction; over :D
[07:01] <agent_white> gartral: Woops! My bad. I believe it's just `apt-get autoremove`.
[07:02] <badbodh> gartral, have you run apt-get commands i gave you? have you removed older kernels ? do something man.
[07:03] <badbodh> parapan2, yeah man, you on live ?
[07:03] <gartral> badbodh: I didn't see any apt commands
[07:03] <badbodh> scroll up. we're done.
[07:03] <danish> what is this application, Is it something live..?
[07:04] <danish> Am i talking to live peoples out there
[07:04] <parapan2> badbodh: exactly
[07:04] <parapan2> badbodh: where do I go from here ?
[07:04] <wileee> danish, This is ubuntu support
[07:05] <agent_white> gartral: Check out these posts->  http://askubuntu.com/questions/89710/how-do-i-free-up-more-space-in-boot  , http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[07:05] <badbodh> parapan2, open terminal, run "lsblk" "sudo blkid". paste the results on pastebin. then open gparted from dash. take a screenshot of your partitions. share that on postimage.org
[07:05] <agent_white> gartral: If you're removing old kernels... just BE SURE not to remove the one you're using :P
[07:06] <badbodh> not sure if you can remove the one your are using, you know, since you are using it :D
[07:06] <wileee> yes you can
[07:06] <agent_white> You can. After a reboot it will be very apparent you did so :P
[07:06] <wileee> ;
[07:06] <wileee> ;)
[07:06] <agent_white> Just like rmrfing a system while in use.
[07:06] <badbodh> lol
[07:07] <wileee> easily fixed like this problem is
[07:07] <agent_white> gartral: But, as badbodh said, really the best solution is to just remove your mouse (you don't need it to run a live-cd and resize), and plug in a usb with a live image on it to do the resizing.
[07:08] <badbodh> hey hey, i said keyboard :P
[07:08] <agent_white> Oh!
[07:08] <agent_white> Well... take your pick I spose! Haha!
[07:09] <badbodh> on-screen keyboard honey. i use them when in bed watching movies :D
[07:09] <xubo> hello
[07:09] <badbodh> just in case crush comes online and says 'hi'
[07:09] <xubo> hi
[07:09] <badbodh> howdy xubo
[07:10] <agent_white> badbodh: Hahah fair enough!
[07:10] <agent_white> I use a tiled window manager, so naturally my mouse is neglected.
[07:11] <badbodh> well, i'm not judging. you like ugly things like twm. no problemo.
[07:12] <agent_white> Heheh I do! All I got going for me is adding transparency to my terminals so I can see my background :P
[07:13]  * agent_white uses i3wm
[07:13] <a_soldatenko> exit
[07:13] <badbodh> true geeks don't have a background. true geeks don't use i3 either. too simple and sane defaults.
[07:13] <parapan2> badbodh: http://pastebin.com/qXNySsU7     |      http://postimg.org/gallery/1436ia1wm/0ade4ab6/
[07:13] <parapan2> badbodh: ready Captain !
[07:14]  * wileee practices their eye rolling
[07:14] <Arbition> Hmm, I have a black background and use xmonad
[07:14] <Arbition> how does that sound badbodh
[07:14] <agent_white> badbodh: Defaults? Psssh. This thing is fueled by vim keybinds!
[07:14] <badbodh> xmonad is geeky. me likey.
[07:15] <wileee> isn't this #ubuntu-offtopic chat
[07:15]  * badbodh resists urge to start emacs vs vim
[07:15] <agent_white> wileee: Sorry. We'll quiet down :)
[07:15] <badbodh> parapan2, hold on buddy, need some time to digest all those hard drives and partitions :D too messy indeed.
[07:16] <wileee> heh, no biggie
[07:16] <agent_white> badbodh: The right answer it, be comfortable in either and you win :)
[07:16] <agent_white> s/it/is/
[07:16] <spagetti> hey guys i got a quick question
[07:16] <wileee> hurry hurry
[07:17] <spagetti> , im runng the software updater and i keep getting a message "Please enter passphrase for disk ubuntu--mate--vg-swap_1 (cryptswap1) on none!" seeing as i never set up a password for my swap partition i press enter and continue on only to be prompted again... and again.. and again..
[07:17] <spagetti> how do i fix this? or at least automate response as "press enter key"
[07:17] <parapan2> badbodh: told you so Skipper :D ; I'm a man of my word . . .
[07:20] <x4w31> ? -> (9:18:53 :A.M.) YWH_1: Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to x4w31) from YWH_1
[07:20] <badbodh> parapan2, ok i see a 'boot' partition on sda1, what does that contain ?
[07:20] <parapan2> badbodh: hell knows !
[07:21] <badbodh> got to know man, if there's a boot flag can't ignore it.
[07:21] <wileee> badbodh, same as the boot folder in your root
[07:21] <parapan2> badbodh: aaaa ..wait a sec ...now the sda is basically the second HDD ...let me look
[07:21] <badbodh> open that drive and see the contents. there are 3 'boot' flagged partitions overall, each containing one os.
[07:22] <agent_white> x4w31: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-to-client_protocol
[07:22] <badbodh> wileee, nitwit, that's a windows partition i'm talking about :P
[07:23] <badbodh> http://pastebin.com/qXNySsU7  |  http://postimg.org/gallery/1436ia1wm/0ade4ab6/ <- take a look
[07:23] <wileee> badbodh, Ah, my mistake, sorry about that.
[07:23] <wileee> thanks I will loook
[07:24] <badbodh> x4w31, it means some one is trying to stalk you, check your ip and stuff
[07:24] <parapan2> badbodh: So, sda1 is nothing . . I guess . . .it's labeled test area and it's basically a storage space or smth where I test some ftp servers . . .
[07:24] <badbodh> then why the boogers is it a 'boot' ? you need to be more careful with your partitioning
[07:24] <parapan2> badbodh: where else are the boot flags ?
[07:25] <parapan2> badbodh: sdc is the one that counts . . here I have the W7 and the Ubuntu stored . . .
[07:26] <badbodh> parapan2, what's on sdb1 ? it's a 'boot' too
[07:26] <parapan2> badbodh: sdc1 is the W7 install . . .and the Ubuntu 12.04 too . .
[07:27] <parapan2> badbodh: it's a storage HDD . .. ntfs format only movies ...
[07:27] <badbodh> where was your xp parition ?
[07:27] <wileee> badbodh, So if sdc is read first no boot?
[07:28] <parapan2> badbodh: don;t have a clue now ..w7 I've installed on the older XP partition, overwritting everything ...
[07:28] <wileee> parapan, ^^^ you to
[07:28] <parapan2> XP doesn't exist anymore ...only the boot of him, taken on the grub ...
[07:29] <parapan2> wileee: nice joke, If I knew, I will be outside paying :D
[07:29] <badbodh> ok parapan2 . do you have windows 7 dvd ?
[07:29] <parapan2> playing :D
[07:29] <wileee> parapan, Not a joke.
[07:29] <parapan2> badbodh: nope
[07:29] <badbodh> any install media for win7 ?
[07:29] <badbodh> you need to use 'recovery mode'
[07:30] <parapan2> I have an iso but I have to burn a DVD ..can we skip this ? w7 is booting fine if I select it from grub . . .
[07:30] <wileee> parapan, but ubuntu is not?
[07:31] <x4w3> (9:30:39 :A.M.) Vd. ahora se llama x4w3 --> :)
[07:31] <parapan2> badbodh: Can't we fix the grub only ? by removing the XP from boot ? and fixing the start of 12.04 ?
[07:31] <wileee> parapan2, Download supergrub boot 12.04 and then you have an easy fix.
[07:32] <badbodh> no wileee , apps won't help him. too messy to begin with.
[07:32] <parapan2> grrr
[07:32] <wileee> badbodh, It is not an app install, it iks a tiny boot iso
[07:33] <wileee> looks pretty straight forward really, yes it's a mess, any way best of luck
[07:33] <parapan2> badbodh: so you think I should fix w7 anyway ?
[07:33] <badbodh> parapan2, was your xp in sdc1 before overwriting it with win7 ?
[07:33] <parapan2> badbodh: maybe making a bootable USB ?
[07:34] <parapan2> badbodh: exactly on the same place ..I've installed 7 over the XP partition C:\
[07:34] <badbodh> and in your bios you have chosen sdc as the first choice to boot ?
[07:36] <gartral> ok, got the kernal problem solved, not I got another issue... VLC won't play DVDs
[07:37] <parapan2> badbodh: not sure if it's sdc; like told you I have 3 HDD x 1TB, Samsung F1 ..the same type ...how to tell wich one ?
[07:37] <gartral> it's a different machine now
[07:38] <agent_white> gartral: http://askubuntu.com/questions/505684/vlc-wont-play-dvd-movies   ?
[07:38] <agent_white> For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[07:39] <gartral> agent_white: I've already followed those
[07:39] <agent_white> gartral: What happens when you try to open a in VLC?
[07:39] <agent_white> s/a/a DVD/
[07:40] <gartral> agent_white: the "Top Menu" loads and I can't click on "Play Movie"
[07:42] <wileee> parapan2, Run sudo blkid identify sdc
[07:42] <badbodh> parapan2, ok let me lay this out if you, try to figure it out yourself. 1) if your sdc1 has windows7, it should be 'boot' flagged. in your screenshot it isn't. that's one anomaly. 2) your sda and sdb has a 'boot' flagged partition each, hard to tell which one has residual xp boot files. 3) using gparted see if you can remove the 'boot' flags in sda and sdb without formatting. it shouldbe possible, i haven't done that yet. 4) using windows 7 install
[07:42] <badbodh> dvd, go to recovery mode and restore win7's mbr. in dos run "bootrec.exe/fixboot" "bootrec.exe/fixmbr" "bootrec.exe/fixboot" again and reboot. you have lost your grub now. 4)boot to ubuntu live, install grub in sdc "sudo grub-install /dev/sdc" (verify if that command is correct in ubuntu's wiki)
[07:43] <badbodh> well that's some info to begin with. happy troubleshooting.
[07:43] <wileee> that command is correct badbodh same thing I was trying to do
[07:44] <badbodh> btw after step (3) remove other hard drives from their ports before booting
[07:44] <gartral> badbodh: how drunk are you?
[07:45] <badbodh> gartral, you got some ideas ?
[07:46] <badbodh> wileee, actually his windows xp residue is interfering. unless he fixes that grub will keep thinking xp is there.
[07:46] <gartral> badbodh: the only two ideas I have are either 1) you're drunk. Or 2) you're an idiot...
[07:46] <parapan2> wileee: it gives me no info ....
[07:46] <badbodh> his partitioning is messed up to begin with anyway
[07:47] <wileee> badbodh, probably, the bootscript would tell you, makes sense, only boot flag need, you are correct overall. ;)
[07:47] <wileee> only one boot flag*
[07:48] <badbodh> well i'll take your word for it. i haven't dealt with bootscript so can't say.
[07:48] <wileee> badbodh, I just use supergrub to get in rather than a chroot
[07:49] <parapan2> badbodh: it seems I can manage flags with gparted . .I assume I can place them again if smth is wrong . .
[07:50] <parapan2> wileee: that command of yours it gives me no output ..
[07:50] <badbodh> parapan2, no need. better use your win7 and ubuntu dvd's for proper flogging
[07:50] <badbodh> *flagging :P
[07:51] <gartral> vlc refuses to play the disk
[07:52] <wileee> parapan2, You have to be in ubuntu, but follow badbod's advice
[07:52] <parapan2> badbodh: I strrugle to make a w7 USB  with rufus and it;s not working ,,
[07:52] <wileee> err badbodh
[07:52] <Kingfisher> Um Hi. I'm currently having problems with my Update Manager, and was wondering if someone could help me.
[07:52] <badbodh> parapan2, use wintoflash. that's my favourite
[07:53] <parapan2> wileee: I am in ubuntu , only in the live USB . .not on the actual install
[07:53] <wileee> Kingfisher, Probably let the channel know what is up.
[07:53] <parapan2> badbodh: k 10x
[07:53] <x4w3> LFCS/LFCE and LPIC are the same :P
[07:53] <badbodh> oh. but you said you can boot to win7 just fine. boot to win7 use wintoflash
[07:54] <badbodh> do motice in the steps i mention i make sure you don't lose your windows :D
[07:54] <badbodh> *notice
[07:54] <Kingfisher> Thanks :). Currently, I'm getting nothing but errors complaining that the Updater 'could not refresh the list of updates'. Another error states 'Could not download all repository indexes'.
[07:55] <badbodh> Kingfisher, which version ?
[07:55] <badbodh> ...of ubuntu
[07:55] <parapan2> badbodh: the free version seems not to have support for NTFS ??
[07:55] <wileee> Kingfisher, Can you pastebin sudo apt-get update
[07:55] <ObrienDave> i'm having same repo issues, PPAs mostly
[07:56] <atropos> Why does Ubuntu have to have a black-ass name?
[07:56] <badbodh> parapan2, your pen drive is fat32 dude. why bother with ntfs
[07:56] <wileee> !ops | atropos
[07:56] <atropos> Why can't it be named after something non-African, we all know black people in Africa can't afford computers
[07:56] <badbodh> or make it fat32, then use wintoflash
[07:56] <badbodh> atropos, read channel rules before making such comments. thank you.
[07:57] <atropos> I just wondered, sorry!
[07:57] <badbodh> wrong wondering.
[07:57] <Kingfisher> I'm currently using Ubuntu 15.04. I just tried the command and got similar complaints.
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[07:57] <Flannel> atropos: This channel is for technical support, if you have a real question about ubuntu, you can ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic.  But your current phrasing isn't going to go well here, or there.
[07:57] <wileee> Kingfisher, check the ppa's are supporting the release.
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[07:58] <badbodh> Kingfisher, do what wileee said. run apt-get update and share ouput on pastebin
[07:58] <wileee> yep knew it would happen
[07:58] <badbodh> damn script kiddies
[07:59] <wileee> thanks Flannel
[07:59] <badbodh> wileee, gotta grab lunch. hold the fort will you :P
[07:59] <Kingfisher> wileee, I am sure everything is supported. I have ran the Updater successfully before.
[08:00] <wileee> lol,
[08:00] <wileee> Kingfisher, You are not responding to help, what do we do now?
[08:01] <Kingfisher> http://pastebin.com/fSP0K8Uf
[08:01] <wileee> Kingfisher, I could just say ppa;s are not supported and we would be done.
[08:01] <wileee> Kingfisher, Did you stop an upgrade?
[08:02] <Kingfisher> Wileee, How could I check they're supported?
[08:02] <ObrienDave> repos acting wonky right now
[08:02] <Kingfisher> Wileee: No.
[08:02] <fuuuuuuuck> Yo
[08:03] <fuuuuuuuck> so I just installed a ubuntu vm just so I could use an irc client
[08:03] <ObrienDave> always has to be one jerk in the room
[08:03] <fuuuuuuuck> don'
[08:03] <fuuuuuuuck> don't know why
[08:03] <thecha> fuuuuuuuck you're dumb
[08:03] <fuuuuuuuck> nah
[08:03] <wileee> Kingfisher, Ah, do you know why you get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock You have more than one installer open?
[08:03] <fuuuuuuuck> just tryin this
[08:03] <fuuuuuuuck> got an actual ubuntu comp
[08:04] <ObrienDave> figures they're from New Jersey
[08:04] <fuuuuuuuck> this is my windows machine
[08:04] <thecha> fuuuuuuuck what is your original system of operations?
[08:04] <wileee> ObrienDave, Little curl eh
[08:04] <Kingfisher> Wileee: Because of the errors. I'll close them and try again.
[08:05] <wileee> Kingfisher, YOu can only use one at a time is all.
[08:06] <Kingfisher> Wileee: Actually that does seem to have done something. Thanks very much for the help. You can see I'm new to Linux. I'll keep it in mind for the future. Thanks every so much :)
[08:06] <wileee> Kingfisher, Heh, no problem, you are doing fine to ask. ;)
[08:07] <fuuuuuuuck> idk about using linux as a main comp
[08:07] <Kingfisher> Wileee: Have a good day. Bye.
[08:07] <wileee> later
[08:07] <fuuuuuuuck> theres just so much you cant do that you can on windows
[08:07] <ObrienDave> hey, idiot, change your nick
[08:07] <fuuuuuuuck> although its very useful
[08:07] <Asseroth> But seriously
[08:12] <yossarianuk> fuuuuuuuck: what examples?
[08:12] <yossarianuk> fuuuuuuuck: there are many things that you cannot do on Windows you can on Linux.
[08:13] <yossarianuk> (i.e control your OS fully.)
[08:13] <ObrienDave> he's gone, fool
[08:13] <h0mer> windows is nice for somet hings
[08:13] <yossarianuk> ah ok.
[08:14] <wileee> windows is always an Odyssey h0mer
[08:14] <lordievader> OS'es are just tools.
[08:14] <yossarianuk> h0mer: windows is a nightmare to fix, the updating system (i.e whilst turning the machine on or off is insane)
[08:15] <lordievader> If they get the job done, use it.
[08:15] <yossarianuk> lordievader: yes, I have never liked Windows, I grew up with Amiga's so knew better....
[08:15] <mcphail> Can we move the philosophy to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[08:16] <yossarianuk> sure, I guess I should never debate anything with someone called fuuuuuuuck: .......
[08:16] <h0mer> windows has it's faults, but it is also better from a gui perspective, easier to use for developers, especially with cygwin.
[08:17] <polaris_iv> good morning; since upgrading my server from 14.10 to 15.04, i have been unable to see all user processes (e.g. ps aux, top, htop) unless i use sudo. how may i restore the old behavior, please?
[08:17] <polaris_iv> (to clarify: i can see my own processes, just not that of other users)
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !sever| polaris_iv,
[08:18] <lordievader> polaris_iv: That is likely systemd's doing, and that is a good thing. Mortal users shouldn't see other users's processes.
[08:19] <barq> How can I update kernel-headers? I tried sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic, but no new packages are found.
[08:20] <k1l> barq: what gives you uname -a?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> barq, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should grab all packages in you upgrade pipeline
[08:20] <TJ-> barq: that's a virtual package that depends on the latest released version
[08:20] <polaris_iv> lordievader: understood; thank you
[08:21] <barq> k1l: 3.11.0-12
[08:21] <k1l> barq: and what ubuntu is that?
[08:21] <mcphail> polaris_iv: not sure that is default behaviour. I'm not at my 15.04 dektop just now so can't check, but I think you can see other user's processes by default on a normal desktop install. May be worth asking in #ubuntu-server
[08:21] <ObrienDave> looks like 12.04 there abouts
[08:22] <barq> k1l: 14.04.3 LTS
[08:22] <cfhowlett> 14.04.3 hasn't been released yet
[08:22] <barq> That's what cat /etc/lsb-release gives me.
[08:23] <k1l> barq: erm, where did you get that kernel from?
[08:23] <mcphail> barq: that isn't a 14.04 kernel, AFAIK
[08:23] <k1l> barq: 3.11 was the 13.10 kernel so there seems to be a lot of mess on your system.
[08:23] <barq> mcphail: How can I get a 14.04 kernel then? I just upgraded from 13.10
[08:23] <k1l> barq: make sure the "linux-generic" package is installed. then reboot
[08:24] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[08:24] <ObrienDave> i have it also :)
[08:24] <ObrienDave> 3.13.0-61-generic kernel
[08:24] <mcphail> barq: I suspect your upgrade did not go well
[08:25] <ObrienDave> barq, use dist-upgrade
[08:25] <badbodh> looks like your upgrade mcphail-ed
[08:26] <ObrienDave> PFFFFFFFFT bad pun ;P
[08:26] <badbodh> :P
[08:27] <mcphail> barq: you may, of course, already have the latest kernel installed but have not selected in it GRUB
[08:27] <barq> installing linux-generic gets me the lastest version
[08:27] <barq> Thanks.
[08:46] <Xubuntu_noon> Hi all, I just installed xubuntu 15 & my Wi-Fi is not working can anyone please help?
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !wifi | Xubuntu_noon
[08:46] <Xubuntu_noon> Ty
[08:47] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[08:47] <Jock-Roach> That's the reason why, xubuntu is a very low quality os
[08:47] <Jock-Roach> it's easy configurable, usually geared towards Linux newberts
[08:48] <Jock-Roach> There are a lot of anti-ubuntu people out there... For one thing, Ubuntu was made in Kenya by a group of niggers.  Ubuntu is like the easy-to-use version of debian, they tried to make Linux easy enough for niggers to use
[08:48] <ObrienDave> Jock-Roach, ummm, Xubuntu is the same as Ubuntu with a different DE. so your point is pretty much worthless
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !ops | Jock-Roach racist trolling FUD
[08:50] <ObrienDave> *sigh*
[08:52] <oobe> ObrienDave, OMG you pull  Jock-roach  ip on symantics when he is making racial slurs based soley on ignorance and an inability to interpret partial information and a lot of bad guesswork
[08:52] <badbodh> tell them you use ubuntu, nobody bats an eyelid. tell them you use debian and everybody loses their minds.
[08:53] <ObrienDave> oobe, and your point is???
[08:53] <cfhowlett> badbodh, he wasn't kicked for debian.  He was kicked for fud, racist trolling.  now let's all move on ...
[08:54] <badbodh> cfhowlett, i wasn't referring to that troll. he got what was coming :)
[08:54] <cfhowlett> noted
[08:54] <badbodh> i was referring to people in general who look down upon ubuntu/linuxmint users
[08:54] <oobe> well its like someone looking back on history and complain the nazis uniforms were really terrible aesthetically
[08:54] <davps> XD
[08:55] <oobe> and to prove your point you mention white pink and black I mean common
[08:55] <oobe> and everyone else is like dude they killed 6 million jews
[08:57] <badbodh> i wonder what happened to that parapup guy with 3 hard drives. hope he didn't kill his boot sector
[08:58] <jtlap> potatoes
[08:58] <ObrienDave> potAtoes ;P
[08:59] <badbodh> banana
[09:00] <ObrienDave> peach
[09:03] <badbodh> quick tip, edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf , change "default-sample-format = float32le" and reboot. music starts hitting sweet spots.
[09:03] <badbodh> damn this is eargasm ^o^
[09:05] <lordievader> badbodh: Why not float32ne, let PA figure out the eandianness.
[09:06] <badbodh> agreed, ne is better.
[09:11] <badbodh> lordievader, how do you know endian of your pc ? any terminal command ? bumper stickers ?
[09:12] <lordievader> badbodh: lscpu tells you
[09:12] <badbodh> thanks, little it is.
[09:12] <huwjr> hia, just rebuilt a clients LAMP stack, their code curls an URL on the same server, only the curl takes a ridiculously long time.. any ideas? I’m seeing * Hostname was NOT found in DNS cache when running curl -v
[09:12] <badbodh> the endian i mean.
[09:13] <huwjr> the only difference i’m seeing is resolv.conf on old server lists “domain” but the new server lists “search” for the domain.
[09:20] <Halamix2> I bought Asus r556lj-xo164h, installed Win 10, Ubuntu 15.4 but on Ubuntu fn+f5/fn+f6 combinations (lower/higher brightness) aren't working, how I can fix this?
[09:22] <bujji> how can i monitor system ports
[09:23] <badbodh> bujji, 'netstat'
[09:23] <bujji> badbodh: like usb ports
[09:23] <badbodh> Halamix2, usually these hardware-keys don't need mapping. but do check in control center > keyboard settings.
[09:25] <badbodh> bujji, lsusb ?
[09:27] <badbodh> but if you need info on mouse/keyboard , 'xinput' will be more helpful. for pen drives use lsblk.
[09:27] <bujji> badbodh: how can i identify particular hardware is not working
[09:28] <badbodh> depends. what hardware are you trying to figure in particular ?
[09:28] <ethMiner> hello
[09:28] <ethMiner> how do i remove all accounts
[09:28] <ethMiner> and even the root account if possible
[09:28] <ethMiner> or remove its password
[09:28] <cfhowlett> !root | ethMiner,
[09:28] <ethMiner> so i can boot up directly to the desktop
[09:29] <ethMiner> no this is important for me
[09:29] <badbodh> you can't boot to anything without a user account
[09:29] <ethMiner> i want the computer to start at a button and execute the startup command i give it
[09:29] <ethMiner> i can boot from root
[09:29] <bujji> badbodh: how can i monitor for these things
[09:29] <badbodh> you want automatic login? that's possible
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ethMiner, look up "kiosk mode".
[09:29] <ethMiner> cfhowlett: badbodh: is it possible to do it with root
[09:30] <badbodh> yes, but don't
[09:30] <k1l> ethMiner: you dont run the desktop as root
[09:30] <ethMiner> im not even running x on root
[09:30] <ethMiner> i just want it to execute the 3 commands it supposed to
[09:30] <ethMiner> and continue running
[09:30] <k1l> ethMiner: you could make it autologin into a user and start the desktop. and then make a script autostart
[09:31] <k1l> ethMiner: what commands are we talking about?
[09:31] <badbodh> bujji, just play with lsusb, lsblk and xinput. for wifi dongles use ifconfig, iwconfig. caution advised :)
[09:31] <ethMiner> change the gpu speed to 90% from aticonfig
[09:31] <ethMiner> start the miner
[09:31] <ethMiner> execute a script that sends me information
[09:31] <badbodh> bujji, in terminal run "man <command name>" to know more
[09:31] <k1l> well, make a bash script then
[09:31] <mcphail> ethMiner: so you don't need a GUI at all?
[09:32] <ethMiner> not at all
[09:32] <ethMiner> i just want it to execute 3 command on the push of a button
[09:32] <cfhowlett> ethMiner, sounds like #ubuntu-server
[09:32] <mcphail> ethMiner: what button? hardware button?
[09:32] <k1l> ethMiner: so you dont need a desktop. put that script with the commands into rc.local and go
[09:33] <ethMiner> mcphail: yes the power button
[09:33] <mcphail> ethMiner: then see k1l's advice or create a cron job with the @reboot time
[09:33] <bujji> okey
[09:46] <dylan_> hi there guys my resuoliton has been stuffed up when i installed the guest additions
[09:46] <dylan_> like it used to be full sized res
[09:46] <dylan_> and now its not
[09:46] <dylan_> any ideas??
[09:50] <moz> how can I set up a modem  in ubuntu?
[09:56] <Guest36470> wvdial: Cannot open /dev/ttyACM0: No such file or directory . any hint?
[09:57] <dv__> still no bluez 5 in the next release :(
[09:58] <BlackDalek> Does anyone here have any experience with getting a Fuji Xerox printer working in Ubuntu? (It is not listed in the printer settings but a linux driver DOES exist on the manufacturer's website).
[10:00] <badbodh> then you should install the driver. unless the driver is very old and throws up 'dependency not satisfied' error, you are goo to go BlackDalek
[10:00] <badbodh> *good
[10:07] <BlackDalek> badbodh, it's not that simple. Running the installer as per the instructions throws up errors. The only other place that has drivers has it available as an RPM package. I can't use that because Alien can't convert it to a DEB package because the RPM is fr 32bit and my Ubuntu OS is 64bit.
[10:07] <BlackDalek> *for
[10:07] <badbodh> that means your printer isn't supported for ubuntu.
[10:08] <badbodh> unless you can grab the source code and compile one yourself, you need to look for some inefficient generic printer drivers online
[10:08] <badbodh> they won't work pretty, but at least get something printed
[10:09] <gshmu> anyone can give me one tpp document
[10:09] <BlackDalek> badbodh, the source code IS available, but that gives me issues too... I am getting errors when trying to compile.
[10:09] <shovel_boss> how do i remove slim
[10:09] <badbodh> share the errors on pastebin
[10:09] <ivanjianjian__> hey
[10:10] <BlackDalek> badbodh, I pasted the errors into Ubuntu Forums... do you want a link to the thread?
[10:10] <llLogic> how do I remove a failed apt-get install? every time I install something it asks if I want to continue installing something that fails every single time and gives me an error
[10:10] <Ben64> llLogic: pastebin the full command and errors
[10:10] <badbodh> BlackDalek, that'll do too
[10:10] <BlackDalek> badbodh, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2288791
[10:11] <badbodh> BlackDalek, you ran install.sh with sudo ?
[10:11] <llLogic> ben64, http://pastebin.com/GdAkrsBJ
[10:12] <shovel_boss> how do i remove simple login manager
[10:12] <abir> Abir
[10:12] <llLogic> I just want to remove g15stats/g15 daemon, but it doesnt give me a simple way
[10:12] <badbodh> shovel_boss, first install another display manager (lightdm, mdm, lxdm etc) during install it will ask which one to select as default.
[10:13] <Guest36470> wvdial: Cannot open /dev/ttyACM0: No such file or directory . any hint?
[10:13] <shovel_boss> i do t want a dm
[10:13] <badbodh> how are you supposed to use ubuntu without dm ? running server ?
[10:14] <shovel_boss> same way i use freebsd withour a dm
[10:14] <badbodh> then reboot, open tty shell instead of loggin into gui. remove slim. have fun
[10:15] <ubuntu307> Has anybody else had problems with unity-tweak-tool not picking up on new fonts?
[10:15] <badbodh> can't remove a dm once you're logged in using that dm
[10:15] <broman> can someone help me? im trying to fix my grub with boot-repair tool but im getting this error: Please enable a repository containing the [grub2] packages in the software sources
[10:16] <shovel_boss> oh im not usi g slim
[10:16] <shovel_boss> how do i know what dm im using
[10:16] <BlackDalek> badbodh, yes, sudo ./install.sh
[10:17] <username1> if its standart ubuntu u are usign gdm
[10:17] <shovel_boss> xubuntu
[10:17] <badbodh> BlackDalek, for 'expected argument error' i'll need to see your install.sh file on pastebin, for the 'no file directory' error, just create that directory mentioned using 'sudo mkdir /blah/blah'
[10:18] <badbodh> xubuntu uses lightdm too. reboot, switch to tty shell (don't log in using gui) , remove lightdm
[10:19] <shovel_boss> ok
[10:19] <badbodh> apt-get remove lightdm
[10:19] <badbodh> i'm not responsible if you can't use your gui anymore :D
[10:20] <badbodh> if you want autologin, enable autologin
[10:21] <shovel_boss> now i have to specify a username then startx
[10:21] <shovel_boss> damn
[10:21] <shovel_boss> this is dense
[10:21] <BlackDalek> badbodh, here is the contents of that install.sh file http://paste.ubuntu.com/11999145/
[10:22] <shovel_boss> any way i can get autologin
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> shovel_boss  what are you doing?
[10:22] <Learner> How to view database in linux ? AM new to linux,
[10:22] <shovel_boss> monkeydust autologin
[10:22] <shovel_boss> i already removed my password
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> shovel_boss  system settings > user accounts > unlock
[10:23] <badbodh> BlackDalek, in line 807 you see " if [ 1 -eq $GMNUM ] " ? make that "if [ 1 -eq {$GMNUM} ] " and try
[10:24] <badbodh> for the other error run "sudo mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults"
[10:24] <badbodh> now happy installing
[10:25] <lilmoe> hi
[10:26] <lilmoe> can someone help please with activating ssh
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> lilmoe  have you installed openssh-client and or openssh-server ?
[10:27] <lilmoe> nope
[10:27] <lilmoe> just ssh
[10:27] <lilmoe> lemme try that
[10:28] <BlackDalek> badbodh, I went to change the line 807... something doesn't look right... the { and } are not higlighting same colour... first is brown and second is blue. Shouldn't they be the same colour (using gedit).
[10:28] <badbodh> nah
[10:28] <badbodh> they forgot to put { } , that's all. silly syntax error.
[10:29] <badbodh> just don't put { anywhere else, or it will be impossible to debug :D
[10:29] <BlackDalek> ok
[10:29] <badbodh> i've had my share of segfault nightmares first year college
[10:30] <lilmoe> ok MonkeyDust it appears i  have those
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> lilmoe  now   ssh user@remote_ip
[10:31] <nbusrone> Brightness auto reset on 14.04 nvidia card. I had enable brightness contro l at Device section Option         "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1",  what else I need to do set it permanent brightnes to -30 ?
[10:32] <BlackDalek> badbodh, aaarrghh!! why is it not letting me create the app-defaults directory?.... wait - do I need a trailing "/" at end?
[10:32] <badbodh> no. "sudo mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults" should do it.
[10:33] <lilmoe> MonkeyDust
[10:33] <lilmoe> im getting connection timed out
[10:33] <BlackDalek> dalek@dalek-Inspiron-3520:~$ sudo mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
[10:33] <BlackDalek> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults’: No such file or directory
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> lilmoe  ssh must be installed on the remote machine, too
[10:34] <mcphail> BlackDalek: use "mkdir -p" if you need to create a long path
[10:34] <badbodh> try - sudo mkdir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults"  <-quotes
[10:34] <lilmoe> isn't there another program
[10:34] <badbodh> oh, long path
[10:35] <BlackDalek> ok, the -p switch worked
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> lilmoe  you mean a GUI for ssh? there's gigolo
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> lilmoe  but that doesnt change anything, if ssh isnt installed on the remote machine
[10:35] <lilmoe> I have it installed
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> lilmoe  then maybe a firewall issue on the remote machine
[10:37] <lilmoe> thanks
[10:37] <BlackDalek> badbodh, the installer ran without error.
[10:37] <badbodh> nice. pray the printer runs without error too.
[10:40] <zeorin> Hi all, I'm having a problem suddenly where I cannot log in graphically. Ubuntu 15.04. Lightdm seems to start just fine. .xession-errors tells me that upstart couldn't spawn upstart-udev-bridge. Yet my system uses systemd...
[10:40] <zeorin> I'm stumped
[10:40] <Guest19168> exit
[10:43] <zeorin> The behaviour I'm getting is that the login prompt and the 'dots' on the background disappear and then the process stops. It's not frozen, but it doesn't continue...
[10:44] <BlackDalek> badbodh, I don't see the printer name listed anywhere in printer settings still. I would not be able to test it tonight anyway as I am at home and printer is at work.
[10:44] <badbodh> BlackDalek, maybe the driver module isn't loaded. need more digging.
[10:44] <badbodh> maybe next time.
[10:45] <BlackDalek> thanks
[10:47] <BlackDalek> badbodh, I just noticed there WAS an error running the install.sh.... "./install.sh: 807: [: Illegal number: {}"
[10:50] <badbodh> it should be > if [ 1 -eq {$GMNUM} ]
[10:51] <badbodh> oh wait. i see no {} in several other places.
[10:52] <BlackDalek> badbodh, it says "if [ 1 -eq {$GMNUM} ]"
[10:53] <roma_> what are some programming channels?
[10:53] <badbodh> then remove the {} , that's not the problem. maybe that variable isn't declared properly
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !list | roma_
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !alis | roma_
[10:53] <badbodh> i'm not a programmer, can't figure out much else, sorry
[10:53] <roma_> !list
[10:53] <roma_> >
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> roma_  type   /msg alis list what_you_want
[10:54] <roma_> doesnt work :/
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> what happens when you try
[10:55] <roma_> nothing, just nothing
[10:55] <roma_> tried with and without the word list, also different "what you want"'s
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> roma_  type   '/msg alis list what_you_want'   <-- without the quotes
[10:56] <roma_> nope, nothing
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> roma_  a new tab has opened, go there
[10:56] <mcphail> roma_: it may be opeining in a different irc window
[10:57] <badbodh> BlackDalek, i see GMVER=`rpm -q glibc | awk '{printf ("%s",substr($1,9,1))}' , maybe that means something with what's wrong
[10:57] <badbodh> in several places
[10:57] <badbodh> gmnum = gmver each time
[10:58] <roma_> how do i go to the new tab? )
[10:58] <badbodh> and somehow gmver isn't being assigned a value
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> roma_  what irc client are you using?
[11:00] <BotchlaB> Heh.
[11:09] <x4w3> Impossible to install wifi card, ndiswrapper or compile module :(
[11:09] <x4w3> i bought new one in amazon :(
[11:09] <lordievader> x4w3: What chip?
[11:12] <script-kiddie> hello
[11:12] <x4w3> lordievader: i don't know, i'm checking from here -> http://www.tp-link.es/products/details/?model=Archer+T2UH#spec
[11:12] <script-kiddie> i created a file start.sh
[11:12] <lordievader> x4w3: lspci -k|grep Network
[11:12] <script-kiddie> and i put this in it $ aticonfig --pplib-cmd "set fanspeed 0 60"
[11:12] <script-kiddie> how do i start it
[11:12] <lordievader> !paste | x4w3
[11:14] <x4w3> Ok, thank u.
[11:14] <script-kiddie> this is my script start.sh
[11:14] <script-kiddie> http://pastebin.com/5FQZ4TMe
[11:14] <script-kiddie> how do i run it
[11:14] <zeorin> Hi all, I have a problem: I cannot log in to the desktop, when I try the login prompt and the dots just disappear and nothing else happens
[11:15] <x4w3> lordievader: i'm working, it's impossible do that command, but let me tell u that lspci | network only show eth0 card, and into iwconfig no wireless has been detected, i test to up ra0 and a lot of things...
[11:15] <zeorin> Doesn't matter which desktop environment I select. .xsession-errors moans that upstart can't spawn upstart-udev-bridge, but I'm not sure that isn't just a left over error from the switch to systemd
[11:16] <x4w3> script-kiddie: sudo chmod +x start.sh and then launch it with ./start.sh o sh your file.
[11:16] <lordievader> x4w3: Is it a usb card?
[11:16] <x4w3> yes it is.
[11:17] <lordievader> Ah...
[11:17] <x4w3> and appear properly in lsusb like ralink :)
[11:17] <lordievader> x4w3: What does lsusb give?
[11:17] <lordievader> Full output please.
[11:17] <x4w3> let me check from internet, i have to remember := ID.
[11:17] <TomyWork> whenever the system runs even the slightest bit into swap, it slows down to a crawl. i noticed that i didn't have "discard" enabled for the swap partition in my fstab. i fixed that, but it's still slow
[11:18] <zeorin> when I try to log in the syslog logs 3 errors from different processes, each telling me: g_dbug_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting
[11:18] <x4w3> lordievader: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. something like this
[11:18] <Stepan_> привет Ubuntu
[11:18] <maggots> anyone have the meizu phone yet?
[11:18] <lordievader> x4w3: Is it something like that, or is that the output?
[11:18] <x4w3> the module i installed was mt7601Usta
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !ru |stepan_
[11:18] <roma_> Привет степа
[11:18] <script-kiddie> SteamWells: huy
[11:18] <script-kiddie> Stepan_: huy
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !touch | maggots
[11:19] <zeorin> the processes in question are org.a11y.Bus, org.gtk.vfs.Daemon, ca.desrt.dconf, and org.a11y.atspi.Registry
[11:19] <x4w3> lordievader: i'm working with windows sorry i'm not at home... the output is the same i remember all perfectly!
[11:19] <roma_> can you please tell me again how to see the list thing?
[11:19] <roma_> something like "/msg alis list what_you_want" ?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> roma_, /msg alis list SEARCHITEMNAMEHERE
[11:20] <roma_> thanks man, finally got it )
[11:20] <lordievader> x4w3: Is the 'linux-firmware' package installed?
[11:21] <x4w3> !pastebinit
[11:21] <script-kiddie> how do i make a script run /go-ethereum/build/bin/geth.sh
[11:21] <script-kiddie> with the parametars --minegpu 0,1
[11:21] <badbodh> /msg alias list windowspwnslinux
[11:21] <huwjr> can anyone help please, it seems ipv6 being preferred, so I unhashed #precedence ::ffff:0:0/96  100 in gai.cfg - but CURLs on command line (and php ping function) are still preferring ipv6 :/
[11:22] <x4w3> lordievader: http://askubuntu.com/questions/498680/ralink-148f760b-mt7601-driver-not-working
[11:22] <x4w3> i have same problem.
[11:22] <script-kiddie> how do i make a script run a file
[11:22] <script-kiddie> in some location
[11:22] <x4w3> lordievader: linux firmware? headers and src?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> script-kiddie  better ask in #bash
[11:23] <lordievader> x4w3: No, the 'linux-firmware' package, is that installed?
[11:23] <x4w3> i don't what is it, then i don't if it is installed, i will check it at home.
[11:30] <badbodh> script-kiddie, exec /path/to/script or sh /path/to/script
[11:30] <zeorin> I've also managed to find out that lightdm spawns upstart when I log in, which itself then spawns a shell, which then spawns a sleep process. The sleep and the shell eventually terminate, but upstart does not
[11:32] <zeorin> should lightdm even be spawning upstart on a systemd system?
[11:33] <gulzar> I enabled root login via ssh in 14.04. But only one user is able to login at a time. How to allow multiple root logins via ssh?
[11:33] <zeorin> Does anyone have any idea of where I should be asking this? I feel like I'm talking out to the ether where no one can hear me scream :-)
[11:33] <badbodh> maybe the upstart remains for compatibility purpose. if you run upstart and sysvinit things, they get piped to systemd
[11:34] <badbodh> then systemd does the rest
[11:34] <ioria> as far as i know the transition to systemd it's not completed yet...
[11:35] <gulzar> #archlinux
[11:35] <zeorin> OK. I don't event know what the real problem is yet because I'm not sure which error relates to what
[11:36] <ioria> we would say that is "hybrid"
[11:36] <zeorin> Basically, I can't login to the desktop. No error messages, after entering my password the login prompt and the 'dots' just disappear, and then the process stops (although the mouse is still responsive and I can access the vtty's)
[11:36] <badbodh> not really, systemd does everything. all upstart commands get sent/translated to systemd.
[11:37] <zeorin> Choosing a different session (e.g. Xfce instead of Unity), makes no difference.
[11:37] <ioria> zeorin, and you think is related to systemd ?
[11:38] <zeorin> I have no idea what it's related to... It was working fine, and after a reboot it was not
[11:38] <zeorin> No packages were updated since the last reboot
[11:38] <badbodh> zeorin, what were yuou doing prior to this problem.
[11:38] <zeorin> I was configuring my zsh startup scripts
[11:38] <zeorin> Specifically, editing /etc/zsh/zshenv
[11:39] <zeorin> Which ought to have absolutely no bearing on this problem... but there you have it
[11:39] <badbodh> there you go. that's something. startup-scripts = not startup :D
[11:39] <ioria> zeorin, check .profile
[11:39] <badbodh> remove zsh from tty shell and reboot
[11:40] <badbodh> that too. check .profile and /etc/profile.d
[11:41] <ioria> zeorin, maybe is very related
[11:41] <pragomer1> according to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2189855  (that one from davidlukas.m)  I urgently need an ubuntu with 32bit-efi... anyone know where to get? because my skills arent good enought to do this
[11:41] <zeorin> ioria, I just changed the file back to what it was before the problem occurred and after restarting lightdm I still have the same problem.
[11:42] <badbodh> anything prior to that zsh thingy ?
[11:42] <ioria> zeorin, ls -al .Xauthority ?
[11:44] <zeorin> ioria: -xr------- 1 user user 49 Aug 4 13:43 .Xauthority
[11:44] <zeorin> If I remove it and restart lightdm it's just recreated
[11:44] <ioria> rw
[11:45] <zeorin> yeah sorry that's what I meant to type
[11:45] <ioria> ok
[11:45] <ioria> zeorin,  .ICEauthority , the same ?
[11:46] <zeorin> I've been bitten by the .Xauthority file being owned by root a couple of times. Yup .ICEauthority is the same
[11:46] <badbodh> just chown the damn home folder and get over it :D
[11:48] <zeorin> badbodh: I was installing Nvidia CUDA before the zsh thing, but I had many restarts after I had installed it without issue
[11:49] <badbodh> so it boils down to zsh thing. apt-get purge and check. you can always install again. deb files will still be cached in /var/vache
[11:49] <badbodh> *cache
[11:50] <badbodh> you can 'cat ~/.xsession-errors' and see any error messages
[11:51] <zeorin> seems strange that it would be zsh... All I was doing was configuring the PATH env variable. As far as I know the only time Unity cares about what's in my zsh startup files is when I launch a virtual terminal
[11:51] <zeorin> anyway will try a reboot
[11:51] <ioria> zeorin,  and run  ls -al /home/user ... maybe something else owned by root
[11:52] <badbodh> touch -R will also indicate root ownership, with less ouput :3
[11:52] <badbodh> oh, no -R
[11:52] <zeorin> ioria: noting in the root of my home folder is owned by root
[11:53] <ioria> zeorin,  not a problem, i think /home is for root
[11:54] <zeorin> badbodh: upstart: Failed to spawn upstart-udev-bridge main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory
[11:55] <zeorin> badbodh: unity-gtk-module main process (9246) terminated with status 127
[11:55] <badbodh> boing!
[11:55] <zeorin> badbodh: dbus-prestart process (9247) terminated with status 127
[11:55] <badbodh> that's a lot of boing-s
[11:56] <zeorin> also some interesting things in /var/log/syslog when I try to long in
[11:56] <zeorin> when I try to log in the syslog logs 3 errors from different processes, each telling me: g_dbug_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting
[11:56] <zeorin> the processes in question are org.a11y.Bus, org.gtk.vfs.Daemon, ca.desrt.dconf, and org.a11y.atspi.Registry
[11:58] <zeorin> Google has been most unhelpfull with these error messages
[12:04] <zeorin> badbodh, ioria: .cache/upstart/dbus.log says: /proc/self/fd/9/: 3: /proc/self/fd/9: initctl: not found
[12:06] <badbodh> zeorin,  unity-gtk-module main process (9246) terminated with status 127 could be the problem
[12:06] <badbodh> ignore stuff in .cache, it's a cache folder
[12:06] <badbodh> you can rmf it without consequences, sort of
[12:09] <zeorin> badbodh: do you know where I could find error logs for unity-gtk-module?
[12:09] <ioria> zeorin,  locate initctl ?
[12:10] <gulzar> Please help. I enabled root login via ssh in 14.04. But only one root user is able to login at a time. How to allow multiple root logins via ssh?
[12:10] <ioria> zeorin,  you should have 4 entries
[12:11] <badbodh> gulzar, create another user account with full root privileges using adduser
[12:11] <gulzar> badbodh: this is 'root' . I enabled it
[12:11] <gulzar> batden: root@host
[12:12] <Boogymanx> Hey guys, does anyone know why my alt-tab switcher is no longer always on top after a reboot?
[12:12] <gulzar> batden: users can connect but only one connection, how to allow multiple connections?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <zeorin> ioria: there are a few entries, there is one in /sbin/initctl
[12:13] <badbodh> gulzar, use adduser command to add another user . there should be an option to inherit privileges. 'man adduser' to check. i don't know any further.
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Boogymanx  how can a key combination be on top of something?
[12:14] <Boogymanx> MonkeyDust: I don't know, all I know is that I'm used to my alt-tab app switcher being on top and it no longer is
[12:15] <gulzar> badbodh: you are not getting it. I am talking about 'root' account ,. via ssh doing "" ssh root@<my ip> "" users can login with 'root' account, but only  one connection. When they login once more they can't beacuse one connection is already created
[12:15] <badbodh> obviously, only one login per account.
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Boogymanx  on top of what?
[12:15] <Boogymanx> MonkeyDust: the current screen
[12:15] <badbodh> do you need root privileges or the fancy name 'root' on your terminal ?
[12:15] <Boogymanx> or current active window
[12:16] <Boogymanx> not screen
[12:16] <gulzar> badbodh: no, it is possible
[12:16] <Boogymanx> MonkeyDust: After reboot I'm actually also having an issue with my launcher no longer showing, it only does so if I'm on the desktop
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Boogymanx  alt tab is on your keyboard, not on your screen, or what do you mean?
[12:17] <Boogymanx> MonkeyDust: The key combo alt & tab opens an app switcher
[12:17] <ioria> zeorin,  do you have for any chance a unity-gtk-module.log ?
[12:17] <badbodh> gulzar, then consult ssh documentation, i don't think it is an ubuntu specific issue
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> Boogymanx  is this useful   http://askubuntu.com/questions/336609/how-to-make-ubuntu-switcher-bring-to-front-windows-while-im-holding-alttab
[12:19] <Boogymanx> MonkeyDust: I'll have a look at that, thanks :)
[12:21] <madonna_1> hey guys, which is the best VPN app for ubuntu ???
[12:22] <zeorin> ioria, badbodh: so the issue was that the PATH wasn't set correctly in /etc/environment. It had escaped me that I had commented a line out there because I'd read that the preferred way to set environments is in /etc/login.defs, and that /etc/environment is supposed to be deprecated.
[12:22] <zeorin> Guess what I read was wrong :-(
[12:22] <rory> madonna_1: Ubuntu comes with VPN support built into the network manager
[12:22] <zeorin> ioria, badbodh: thank you both so much for your help! It's really appreciated! :-)
[12:22] <ltsampros> hey guys
[12:22] <ltsampros> 14.04 LTS user here
[12:22] <badbodh> zeorin, so all this time it was something you did about that zsh that caused it
[12:22] <ioria> zeorin,  no problem, good job
[12:22] <ltsampros> big problem with ssh-agent etc etc
[12:22] <madonna_1> rory: not that one
[12:22] <ltsampros> and gnome-keyring
[12:23] <zeorin> badbodh: technically not zsh, it ignores /etc/environment anyway
[12:23] <rory> madonna_1: What are you trying to do?
[12:23] <ltsampros> is there any reliable workaround/fix/remedy that could allow me to have SSH_AUTH_SOCK under all X processes?
[12:23] <badbodh> zeorin, so it was you. which makes it even worse.
[12:23] <badbodh> you owe us apology
[12:24] <badbodh> linux doesn't stop working by itself (except arch) , it's always something you do that's to be blamed.
[12:24] <rory> madonna_1: Ubuntu comes with support for PPTP type VPNs out of the box. You can install openvpn support within network manager by installing the "network-manager-openvpn" package, and logging out and in
[12:25] <madonna_1> rory : tanqqqqqqqqqqqqq. ;-)
[12:25] <zeorin> badbodh: please accept my apology :-)
[12:25] <rory> madonna_1: stop being cryptic. What are you trying to do?
[12:25] <badbodh> zeorin, and ioria too, not just me
[12:26] <ioria> ^_^
[12:26] <zeorin> ioria: also please accept my apology
[12:26] <ltsampros> is anyone affected by bug 1271591 in here?
[12:26] <ioria> never
[12:26] <badbodh> if ioria says no, so do i
[12:26] <zeorin> ioria: I can't do more than that :-) Good luck with inner peace you guys!
[12:26] <ioria> ^_^
[12:27] <funkenstrahlen> hey I try to run this command in one line, but I always get an error. any help? https://gist.github.com/funkenstrahlen/e60f7e103c2f697c44c6
[12:27] <rory> funkenstrahlen: What error do you get?
[12:27] <funkenstrahlen> rory: see gist
[12:27] <funkenstrahlen> rory: https://gist.github.com/funkenstrahlen/e60f7e103c2f697c44c6
[12:28] <funkenstrahlen> rory: it does not source the vars before running clean-all
[12:29] <rory> does the source command work by itsself?
[12:29] <funkenstrahlen> rory: yes, if I run it separately it works
[12:30] <funkenstrahlen> rory: however I want to run this in one line (ansible role)
[12:30] <funkenstrahlen> I really can not see the error in this shell line ...
[12:31] <funkenstrahlen> I tried sudo source ./vars No difference
[12:31] <madonna_1> hey guys, my android fon is not detecting in ubuntu 12.04 as modem. It was detecting earliar. I want to connect as mobile broadband
[12:32] <badbodh> madonna_1, check usbsettings in your phone. make sure to enable tethering
[12:32] <badbodh> ubuntu doesn't need any tinkering here
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !ics | madonna_1 start here
[12:33] <madonna_1> also i cant copy paste files between pc and fon
[12:33] <badbodh> MonkeyDust, he's trying to use his android phone as modem, aka usb tethering
[12:33] <madonna_1> copy fails
[12:33] <badbodh> any error message(s) ?
[12:34] <madonna_1> wow.,.. usb tethering works
[12:35] <nabdev> any help to resolve this issue http://i.imgur.com/fEsXDAm.jpg ? i can' write my password to login in my VM ( ubuntu 14.04 )
[12:37] <badbodh> nabdev, type in your pass and hit enter. does that work ?
[12:37] <nabdev> badbodh> no
[12:38] <badbodh> you chose 'encypted home' during install ?
[12:39] <nabdev> i don't remember that but sometime i have this not all the time ; with ctrl+alt+f2 i can login normally
[12:41] <fidel_> nabdev: if it happens just sometimes and you are ok with an ugly fix - simply start to another tty and restart lightdm
[12:42] <ioria> nabdev, have you tried to restart lightdm ?
[12:42] <fidel_> i guess if that isnt a known bug - might be 1 of several easy ways to handle it. one other would be jumping to another login-manager i.e. gdm instead of lightdm. But i cant offer a real fix as i havent seen this before myself
[12:42] <martinrame> hi, I cannot define a route to a 2nd ubuntu PC with two nics. My PC is in network 192.65.214.x, server's 1nst nic is 192.65.214.x, 2nd 192.168.0.x. I need to set the gw of my PC to 192.168.0.x, but I get SIOCADDRT.
[12:42] <nabdev> ioria> lightdm is a service ?
[12:43] <ioria> nabdev, (in console) sudo service lightdm restart
[12:43] <bju> hi
[12:44] <nabdev> work it ! thx
[12:45] <tompaw> Hello
[12:45] <ioria> nabdev, i think it's a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1311316
[12:45] <infodoggy> Hi there everyone
[12:45] <tompaw> I have an entry in /etc/hosts and when I try to resolv it I'm getting Host xxx not found: 2(SERVFAIL) - nsswitch is set to hosts: files dns
[12:46] <nabdev> ioria> yes
[12:46] <tompaw> Why does ubuntu ignore my /etc/hosts?
[12:46] <bju> i want to install viver application in my ubuntu 14.04 laptop
[12:46] <ioria> nabdev, are you fully updated ?
[12:46] <bju> yes
[12:47] <broman> can someone help me? i just update my server machine and now i cant connect through ssh (no route to host)... a have physical access to the server
[12:47] <ioria> ubottu it says fix released ... but not in the report ...
[12:49] <nabdev> ioria> no more , some updated my me in Big problem of config, so i ignore them
[12:49] <ioria> nabdev, it's just my opinion ... but updates are very important ...
[12:50] <DeMiNe0> broman: type "ip addr | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us" and paste the link that comes out
[12:51] <DeMiNe0> and "route | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us"
[12:51] <jrow> I just removed a load of old linux headers in an attempt to free up some disk space. I eventually ran suod apt-get autoremove but it gets 'stuck' at the following step: "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub"
[12:51] <jrow> Any ideas?
[12:52] <jrow> It also syas "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.13.0-53-generic cannot be found" which is no surprise since i just uninstalled it
[12:53] <eL_bAmba> you removed with apt or manual rm
[12:53] <nabdev> yeh , may be i msut change my opinion about updated os
[12:53] <Guest64076> pls, help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11999869/
[12:53] <jrow> with apt
[12:53] <ioria> :-)
[12:54] <DzAirmaX> hi guyz
[12:54] <jrow> So then I try to reinstall the headers and i just get stuck still trying to do the post uninstall step
[12:55] <fidel_> nabdev: there is no quaranty that updating an os always works without issues - but not updating a system which is connected to the internet isnt a solution either ;)
[12:56] <jrow> Is there a way to "reset" the package manager's state?
[12:56] <nabdev> fidel_ > yeh .. :=)
[12:56] <eL_bAmba> jrow see dpkg-reconfigure -a
[12:57] <eL_bAmba> read about it before execute
[12:57] <DeMiNe0> Does anyone know the major differences between the Ubuntu Openstack and just setting openstack up on your own?
[12:57] <jrow> ty
[12:58] <eL_bAmba> jrow its a desktop distro?
[12:59] <eL_bAmba> if its, i usually remove old kernel stuff with ubuntu tweaker and no problem with it
[12:59] <k1l_> jrow: make sure you have "linux-generic" installed
[12:59] <k1l_> no need for tweakers
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> DeMiNe0  type /j #openstack
[12:59] <eL_bAmba> sure, but help
[13:00] <eL_bAmba> really its a frontend for apt
[13:03] <n0rp3d> does anybody now how to remove the "x has joined the chat"?
[13:03] <n0rp3d> irc client irssi :/
[13:03] <k1l_> !quietirc | n0rp3d
[13:03] <DJones> !quietirssi | n0rp3d
[13:04] <thecha> or just type /ignore #ubuntu
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> +MODES +NICKS
[13:05] <thecha> has any of your watched bird up?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> thecha  this is ubuntu support
[13:05] <n0rp3d> thanks )
[13:05] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. I listen to a lot of ShoutCast radio while I work and have been looking for a media player to play it. I know most players will play the streams, but im looking for one that will do a listing of all the stations, like what winamp does (or at least did, been years since i used it). . Ive googled my heart out but cant seem to find what im looking for
[13:05] <n0rp3d> wont ignore with no parameters ignore the messages too?
[13:06] <thecha> I don't understand your question
[13:06] <Pici> n0rp3d: no
[13:06] <DrunkenDwarf> my question or someone elses?
[13:06] <Guest64076> I have a problem with my internet key: here are the details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11999869/ any hint?
[13:07] <sagat> bom dia
[13:07] <Pici> DrunkenDwarf: I was under the impression that VLC could do that... but I don't find VLC a great music player.
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest64076  put your question in a decent phrase
[13:07] <n0rp3d> why dont people find vlc a good player?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> n0rp3d  why do you think that?
[13:08] <n0rp3d> i mean yeah it sometimes does those graphic smudge things, but generally it's pretty stable and neat
[13:08] <DrunkenDwarf> Pici: I know VLC can play the streams if you give it the address. But im looking for something that can also browse the directory of all the stations
[13:08] <n0rp3d> i don't, ive been using it for years, but people usually shit on it
[13:08] <Guest64076> MonkeyDust, my internet key works just after reboot. why?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> n0rp3d  do they? never noticed
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest64076  define 'internet key'
[13:09] <DrunkenDwarf> when it comes to playing music on my HD, just can't beat cmus :)
[13:10] <Guest64076> MonkeyDust, http://www.ondacommunication.com/it/prodotti/o/27/MT833UP-Blue?id_cat=2
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest64076  ok, that's a wifi dongle
[13:11] <Guest64076> MonkeyDust, I don't know
[13:11] <Guest64076> MonkeyDust, no, I don't think so. this is a modem
[13:12] <n0rp3d> modem, 100%
[13:12] <sagat> bom dia
[13:12] <n0rp3d> i have one of these
[13:12] <sagat> alguem pode me ajudar
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !pt | sagat
[13:12] <n0rp3d> but depends, some sim modems can distribute network via usb & wifi
[13:13] <Guest64076> MonkeyDust, any hint?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Guest64076  no, i'm not familiar with it
[13:14] <Guest64076> ok
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest64076  next time, be more specific than 'internet key'
[13:15] <sagat> sorry
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> sagat  keep it in the channel
[13:17] <n0rp3d> what about removing/chaning the limit that the '/msg alis list ...." sets by default?
[13:17] <daftykins> n0rp3d: that's a network bot, go talk to #freenode about it - not us.
[13:18] <n0rp3d> oh oh
[13:28] <Nectar> Hi. Whats that app called which displays computer stats in terminal?
[13:29] <Nectar> with the accii ubuntu logo
[13:29] <pkull> gunicorn/nginx trouble: http://pastebin.com/9e6bb79y What is the error message telling me and what IP address is xx.xxx.xx.xx (I don't have such IP anywhere in my project)?
[13:31] <federico> OMG
[13:32] <pkull> \join #python
[13:38] <mate_> Touchpad on thinkpad s440 freezes every time i dont use it. i need to move my finger over the touchpad a few times till ubuntu recognises that as movement, what or where should i look/do?
[13:40] <mate_> i am very new to ubuntu, please help
[13:46] <JayBau> Hi guys, does anyone knows how to enable the brightness for my Lenovo z500?
[13:47] <JayBau> I've tried lots of solution, but non of them worked
[13:47] <skinux> I'm trying to execute a .run file, no matter what I do it says cannot execute binary file
[13:48] <daftykins> skinux: what is it?
[13:48] <k1l_> skinux: set it +x with chmod. but dont run .run files just blindly
[13:48] <daftykins> having one is sign #1 that you're not doing something the most ideal way
[13:48] <skinux> metasploit penetration testing tool
[13:48] <JayBau> try to chmod +x on your .run file
[13:48] <skinux> I did that already
[13:48] <daftykins> so then switch to root with "sudo -i" and run it with ./blah.run
[13:48] <daftykins> as long as it's +x'd for root :D
[13:49] <daftykins> alternatively, install it properly ;)
[13:49] <skinux> I get permission denied using sudo -i
[13:50] <daftykins> you know i mean just "sudo -i" and that's it, yeah?
[13:50] <skinux> I did sudo -i first and then tried it, said permission denied
[13:50] <daftykins> chmod +x it first?
[13:50] <JayBau> strange, permission problem should be fixed by chmod +x
[13:51] <EriC^^> what is it supposed to be run by anyways
[13:51] <skinux> chmod +x didn't make a difference.
[13:51] <n0rp3d> sudo chmod?
[13:51] <k1l_> skinux: where is that file? please show the command and output in a pastebin
[13:51] <EriC^^> type head -1 /path/to/.run
[13:51] <daftykins> show us an "ls -al" in the folder where that file is
[13:52] <skinux> Head appears to have returned a bunch of encryption
[13:52] <k1l_> !paste | skinux
[13:52] <EriC^^> ok ./.run runs something by looking for a shebang
[13:53] <k1l_> skinux: details matter. so show it in a pastebin please
[13:53] <EriC^^> no shebang, no run
[13:53] <tutolato> hi guys, i have a problem with my touchpad. i am very new to linux so i dont really know what to do. Thinkpad S440, the touchpad freezes everytime i let go of it and only starts working again after some time moving my finger over it.
[13:54] <skinux> https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/18444c066e98a92f389b
[13:56] <skinux> I don't know how that encryption or encoding help any, but it's there.
[13:57] <k1l_> are you sure the file is not corrupted?
[13:57] <EriC^^> skinux: type file /path/to/run
[13:58] <skinux> Okay, updated the Gist
[13:59] <EriC^^> ok so what's ls -l /path/to/run say
[14:01] <skinux> That's already on the Gist
[14:02] <EriC^^> skinux: it's not +x
[14:02] <EriC^^> chmod +x it
[14:02] <skinux> I did
[14:02] <skinux> I did that twice in fact
[14:02] <daftykins> is it stored on an NTFS volume maybe?
[14:02] <EriC^^> is it on ^
[14:02] <daftykins> something non-EXT3/4
[14:02] <skinux> Umm...actually I think it is.
[14:03] <daftykins> is which
[14:03] <daftykins> i think you need to read up on permissions after this :)
[14:06] <skinux> I got it.
[14:07] <daftykins> "thanks all"
[14:08] <love> hi
[14:09] <Guest33266> 有人吗
[14:10] <rypervenche> Guest33266: 有
[14:10] <rypervenche> !cn | Guest33266
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !kylin | Guest33266
[14:10] <Guest33266> ？
[14:11] <tutolato>  hi guys, i have a problem with my touchpad. i am very new to linux so i dont really know what to do. Thinkpad S440, the touchpad freezes everytime i let go of it and only starts working again after some time moving my finger over it.
[14:13] <BotchlaB> tutolato: What distro are you using? You already asked in ##linux, it's confusing if you asked in both places.
[14:13] <tutolato> BotchlaB i am using ubuntu mate
[14:16] <tutolato> am i doing something wrong or why does nobody answer :O ?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> !patience | tutolato
[14:16] <mac_marcus> :D
[14:17] <tutolato> >the year of the linux desktop
[14:17] <tutolato> ;)
[14:18] <k1l_> tutolato: is this a known issue for your device?
[14:18] <k1l_> that sounds like some standby issue?
[14:18] <skinux> A web script I'm using is complaining I don't have AES crypto library installed. Is it a apache mod I'm missing or just a package?
[14:18] <Bangladeshi> i am using xubuntu, do u gys support it here?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Bangladeshi, yes or in #xubuntu
[14:18] <Bangladeshi> okey
[14:19] <tutolato> k1l_ yes i also think this is some powersaving issue, a few years ago i had ubuntu on my system and tried to lower the discharge rate with powertop and the same issure acured
[14:19] <tutolato> but this is a clean install
[14:20] <tutolato> my trackpoint works flawlessly
[14:20] <skinux> Bangadeshi: Does your nick mean anything in English?
[14:21] <Bangladeshi> ok i have this problem, i use a wimax modem, that needs a usb port to be connected with internet. unfortuately the model company doesnt have a driver for linux for this modem. i have found a diver of this modem in a blog. but the driver doesnt work properly, like sometimes the modem doesnt show signal line when i connect it with computer. so can anyone help me find or develp a good driver for
[14:21] <Bangladeshi> this wimax modem,
[14:21] <fck> ???
[14:21] <r3S1L13n7> How to I reinstall the i915 drivers for ubuntu 14.04. A recent update is causing my system to hang up about 5 seconds after I login
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Bangladeshi, best to contact the driver maintainers with this issue and ask them for the fix.
[14:22] <amtron> how to instal tally
[14:22] <Bangladeshi> cfhowlett they dont provide linux related help, their driver only works in windows
[14:23] <Bangladeshi> iv heard this place is full of brilliant and powreful coders, who penetrate digital world, so iv came here with a hope
[14:23] <k1l_> tutolato: dont know. it should work ootb. maybe see the bios settings for that if there is something disabled
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Bangladeshi, then the sanest option is to purchase a device that actually DOES suppot linux
[14:23] <Bangladeshi> that someone will be able to help
[14:23] <amtron> i  really agree with you
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !hardware | Bangladeshi
[14:23] <tutolato> k1l_ under win it works
[14:23] <tutolato> i am dualbooting
[14:23] <Bangladeshi> cfhowlett ur solution seems, if a person has a problem in his leg, u want him to cut it down :P
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Bangladeshi, false.  Given a choice, select what works.
[14:24] <orzel2001> How to install eclipse 4.2 on ubuntu mate?
[14:24] <Bangladeshi> lol ok bro
[14:24] <Bangladeshi> thanks for ur help
[14:25] <OerHeks> orzel2001, find a PPA or build it yourself
[14:25] <orzel2001> ok
[14:28] <k1l_> tutolato: well i dont know. maybe you need to find if others have that issue on the s440 too. you can try to see if there is something in dmesg or syslog about that.
[14:28] <r3S1L13n7> How to I reinstall the i915 drivers for ubuntu 14.04. A recent update is causing my system to hang up about 5 seconds after I login
[14:29] <k1l_> r3S1L13n7: try booting the older kernel and see if that helps
[14:29] <k1l_> r3S1L13n7: if yes, file a bug to that new kernel
[14:29] <r3S1L13n7> k1l_: ok i will try
[14:30] <tutolato> this is so frustrating. really want to use linux insted of windows - what happens? my touchpad doesnt work properly and its a pain in the ass ^^
[14:31] <OerHeks> tutolato, touchpad in your ass ... please keep this irc channel family & touchpad friendly
[14:33] <Shuka> Has anyone had a problom where at login when you type the password it just does nothing? It tells me its an error with X11, anyone know anything?
[14:33] <aaps> b
[14:35] <EriC^^> Shuka: type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:36] <zerete> clear
[14:36] <mac_marcus> Shuka, read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232926/etc-x11-x-not-executable-error-when-startx
[14:37] <infohound> Anybody know when they will fix track pad compatibility with the 2015 rmbp?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !mac | infohound,
[14:37] <sloof> I've got a /boot that is full and apt is complaining about unmet dependencies.  I'd like to clear out old kernel packages but I doesn't look like apt will let me.  Any ideas?
[14:37] <EriC^^> sloof: remove the initrd of the old kernels manually then purge with apt
[14:39] <Shuka> EriC^^: The log tells me AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
[14:39] <EriC^^> that's normal i thinnk
[14:39] <Shuka> EriC^^: The rest is just No input driver specified, ignoring this device
[14:40] <EriC^^> Shuka: can you paste the whole log?
[14:40] <notroot> i installed ubuntu 15 on an old laptop
[14:40] <notroot> sound isn't working
[14:40] <Shuka> EriC^^: I'm on my laptop, the problom is on my main computer.
[14:40] <notroot> whats the name of that pau control
[14:40] <EriC^^> does it have internet?
[14:40] <notroot> for pulse audio
[14:40] <Shuka> EriC^^, yes it does
[14:40] <EriC^^> pavucontrol?
[14:40] <notroot> thank you
[14:40] <EriC^^> Shuka: type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <EriC^^> no problem
[14:42] <Shuka> EriC^^, its http://termbin.com/zbh4
[14:42] <Shuka> EriC^^, thats a neat trick
[14:43] <soulisson> Hello, quick question please, when tcp is used for syslog, is the tcp connection between the client and the server maintained?
[14:44] <EriC^^> Shuka: anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[14:45] <notroot> this laptop isn't showing any real output devices for audio. what step can i take to see about finding the correct audio driver?
[14:45] <Shuka> EriC^^: ~/.xsession-errors    termbin.com/d441
[14:45] <EriC^^> Shuka: page not found
[14:46] <Shuka> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/5py1
[14:47] <EriC^^> Shuka: type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[14:48] <Shuka> EriC^^: Its there
[14:48] <EriC^^> who's the owner?
[14:48] <Shuka> EriC^^: root, only r and w privliges.
[14:49] <k1l_> root is bad. should be the user
[14:49] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[14:49] <EriC^^> Shuka: did you run sudo startx ?
[14:49] <Shuka> Yea I tried sudo startx before, and it is under my user.
[14:50] <EriC^^> Shuka: don't use sudo with startx it'll mess up the permissions
[14:50] <EriC^^> and startx doesn
[14:50] <Shuka> Alright, is that why the file was under root?
[14:50] <EriC^^> 't work too well with ubuntu
[14:50] <k1l_> yes
[14:51] <Shuka> Would reinstalling x11 and my wm solve this problom?
[14:51] <EriC^^> no, just chown the file
[14:52] <Shuka> EriC^^: Same problom
[14:52] <Shuka> EriC^^: Not sure if restart is needed
[14:52] <EriC^^> Shuka: it's not, try the guest session for a sec
[14:52] <EriC^^> just so we know it's system-wide
[14:53] <Shuka> EriC^^: Thats not enabled
[14:53] <EriC^^> try making another user real quick, sudo adduser
[14:54] <Shuka> Okay
[14:54] <Shuka> Should I login in gui with it?
[14:54] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:54] <Shuka> cause su works fine with it
[14:54] <Shuka> Same thing, just blinks to terminal and goes back to login.
[14:56] <Spider> hello
[14:56] <Shuka> EriC^^: Well thanks for trying to help me, I am just going to back to slackware.
[14:57] <daftykins> Shuka: giving up won't teach you anything :)
[14:58] <Spider> do or do not therer is no try
[14:58] <EriC^^> abra ka dabra much?
[14:59] <Shuka> daftykins: Yes but I can't spend all day and all night fixing ubuntu.
[14:59] <Shuka> daftykins: Ubuntu distros always break for me
[14:59] <daftykins> Shuka: well, you did run startx :)
[14:59] <daftykins> Shuka: check the guest session works ok
[15:00] <k1l_> and running irc as root.
[15:00] <Spider> why do you insist on using ubuntu? why not use some other linux?
[15:00] <k1l_> Shuka: if you want to run as root all the time, ubuntu is not the right choice.
[15:00] <daftykins> Spider: this is a support channel, conversation like that can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:00] <daftykins> Spider: pro tip though, just 'cause we're in here doesn't mean we use something ;)
[15:01] <Shuka> I use slackware on all my laptops, one some I dual boot. Thing is when I install slackware on my main computer I get some kernel error at boot time.
[15:01] <daftykins> Shuka: ok but that's off topic here
[15:01] <Spider> i get it but free speech much?
[15:01] <Giwrgaras> hi sos please
[15:01] <Shuka> daftykins: sorry
[15:01] <Giwrgaras> ive got a netgear n300 wifi rooter and ubuntu cant see it
[15:01] <daftykins> Spider: no, channel policy - this isn't somewhere for you to complain about supposed rights
[15:01] <Giwrgaras> what do i have to do
[15:02] <Giwrgaras> ive  bought a wifi device and its not visible
[15:02] <k1l_> Spider: your false concept of free speech is not part of this channel.
[15:02] <Spider> haha very funny
[15:03] <Giwrgaras> anyone?
[15:04] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: ubuntu version? wireless card/dongle make + model / chipset ?
[15:05] <PrinceOfCats> Giwrgaras:  Can you see other wifis/routers?
[15:05] <Spider> so where in the ever-loving land of ubuntu can i go to shoot the bull?
[15:05] <Pici> Spider: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:07] <Giwrgaras> no
[15:07] <Giwrgaras> 12.04 daftykins
[15:07] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: wow, bit old - is this a clean install? what resulted in you having no wifi today?
[15:07] <Giwrgaras> PrinceOfCats: no i cant see the device now im connected via ethernet
[15:08] <Giwrgaras> from the time ive bought the device it isnt visible
[15:08] <tutolato> can someone with a 2013-2015 thinkpad please run "xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" ? so that i can verify if my install uses the correct defaults?
[15:08] <Giwrgaras> what can i do now to install some drivers, wine isnt working
[15:08] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: are you fully dist-upgrade'd ?
[15:09] <caron> Giwrgaras, and how did you install wine?
[15:09] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: well you haven't answered what your wireless hardware is yet - so "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then type "lspci | pastebinit" and "lsusb | pastebinit"
[15:09] <Giwrgaras> no how do i do that
[15:09] <k1l_> Giwrgaras: is the router sending on a channel or a frequency the wifi card doesnt support?
[15:09] <Giwrgaras> i had that in my pc
[15:09] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: if you're not up to date, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:10] <Giwrgaras> i did that
[15:10] <Giwrgaras> i have the last version
[15:10] <Giwrgaras> daftykins:
[15:10] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: ok run the above commands and paste the links here please
[15:11] <Giwrgaras> normally i have to see the wifi on the upper corner of my desktop right? so i can select the wifi and put the code
[15:11] <Giwrgaras> there is nothing there
[15:11] <daftykins> so you don't have the network manager
[15:11] <daftykins> so that's not necessarily not having working wifi
[15:11] <Giwrgaras> My ubuntu is not in English language
[15:11] <daftykins> alright but are you running the commands i suggested?
[15:12] <Giwrgaras> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source is allready the last one; or something like that it says
[15:12] <daftykins> nobody said to run that
[15:12] <Giwrgaras> oops false sorry
[15:13] <Giwrgaras> wrong cp now i do dist upgrade
[15:13] <daftykins> i thought you said you did that already
[15:13] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: i'm waiting for "lspci | pastebinit"
[15:13] <Giwrgaras> daftykins: what is that?
[15:14] <daftykins> a command to run to show your hardware
[15:14] <daftykins> i typed it ages ago and asked you to run it, but you still haven't
[15:15] <k1l_> Giwrgaras: you said the wifi card did work already and you bought a new router?
[15:21] <Giwrgaras> k1l_: i just bought it the wifi
[15:22] <k1l_> Giwrgaras: router or wifi card?
[15:23] <Giwrgaras> router
[15:23] <Giwrgaras> wifi router
[15:23] <daftykins> still waiting on the command output
[15:24] <k1l_> Giwrgaras: is it running? is it seen by other laptops, smartphones?
[15:25] <Giwrgaras> yes
[15:25] <Giwrgaras> it cant see anything
[15:26] <Giwrgaras> or i cant see it on the upper corner
[15:26] <daftykins> "lspci | pastebinit"
[15:27] <k1l_> Giwrgaras: please make sure to not make such short and confusing answers. "yes", "no", "i cant see it"... so you got a new router and the old wifi card on that ubuntu 12.04 cant see it?
[15:27] <k1l_> Giwrgaras: so is the router sending on a frequency the old wifi card doesnt work with? please make sure tha hardware is alright
[15:29] <Giwrgaras> no i just cant see it
[15:29] <Giwrgaras> like it doesnt exist
[15:29] <Giwrgaras> i tried the pastbinit
[15:29] <daftykins> and?
[15:29] <Giwrgaras> but i dont have the prog and cant install it
[15:29] <daftykins> why can't you install it?
[15:29] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: don't you think saying you had problems makes more sense than staying silent?
[15:30] <daftykins> visit http://paste.ubuntu.com manually and paste in the output of "lspci" from the terminal
[15:31] <Giwrgaras> now i do the dist upgrade
[15:31] <Giwrgaras> its sitll doing it
[15:31] <daftykins> you can do the above at the same time
[15:33] <F6F7> always after waking up my ubuntu (most recent version) rom sleep/hibernation it shows just a black screen so that i have to restart. what is the reason for that?
[15:34] <OerHeks> F6F7, encrypted home perhaps?
[15:34] <B-Max> Hey. I'm attempting to set up a proxy server using Squid3 using these steps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Proxy - I'm fairly certain I was successful in this as I'm able to configure my network settings on my MAC to use it. However, I'm trying to configure another Ubuntu server to use it to no avail. I have the following in my /etc/environment: http://pastebin.com/R12E8Wtu - I try doing various network activities on the second serve
[15:34] <daftykins> could be graphics driver related
[15:34] <B-Max> access logs. Any ideas?
[15:34] <Spider> internal conflict
[15:34] <F6F7> OerHeks: full disk encryption
[15:35] <Giwrgaras> lspci can i paste it here?
[15:35] <Giwrgaras> or do i risk a ban
[15:35] <Giwrgaras> its 15 lines long
[15:35] <OerHeks> F6F7, all i know is that hybernate does not work on encrypted drives, the code cannot be read from encrypted swap.
[15:35] <OerHeks> maybe i am wrong ..
[15:35] <F6F7> OerHeks: alright, thanks for letting me know
[15:35] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: i linked you to the site where to paste it...
[15:35] <Giwrgaras> http://pastebin.com/KA0cAVBr
[15:35] <F6F7> however, on a debian laptop i can always wake it up from hibernation despite full disk encryption
[15:36] <F6F7> so maybe it is indeed graphics driver related. is there a wayto find out?
[15:36] <F6F7> i have a nvidia gpu
[15:37] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: is the wifi device a USB dongle plugged in?
[15:37] <F6F7> the drivers menu says my ubuntu is using an alternative driver (intel-microcode). maybe I should try the Nvidia binary driver?
[15:37] <Giwrgaras> no
[15:37] <Giwrgaras> just a moment please
[15:38] <hfp> Hi all, I have a MacBookPro5,3 (mid-2009, core2duo, nvidia 9400+9600m gt) and I can't get any Ubuntu LiveCDs to boot. I get into the bootloader, choose Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu (tried both, same outcome). Ubuntu starts to load, I see the Ubuntu screen and it eventually hangs. The only way to get out of it is to reset the computer. What am I doing wrong? Is there an issue with this particular laptop/gfx car
[15:38] <hfp> d? I tried several Ubuntu versions, derivatives and ...
[15:38] <hfp> ... ISOs: always the same issue.
[15:38] <daftykins> hfp: is the disk blank or do you have an OS X on there?
[15:38] <B-Max> nevermind my previous question...bad test
[15:39] <Giwrgaras> http://pastebin.com/WHyAnd2u
[15:39] <daftykins> hfp: i don't think it likes seeing both cards.
[15:39] <Giwrgaras> thats the new one
[15:39] <OerHeks> F6F7, intel microcode is for intel CPU' s, nothing to do ith nvidia .. for your previous Q: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap
[15:39] <Giwrgaras> i cant see it and ive upgraded my dist
[15:39] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: they're identical and show no wireless card
[15:39] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: try "lsusb"
[15:40] <hfp> daftykins: I have OS X installed. There is no way to turn off one card, it's one of those systems where you can switch between integrated for battery power or discrete for intensive applications. When I was running Windows, it could only every see the discrete card and I couldn't switch between integrated and discrete. As far as Win was concerned, there was only one gfx card in this system
[15:40] <F6F7> OerHeks: thanks for the link
[15:40] <daftykins> hfp: not turn off, you need to boot with nomodeset i think
[15:40] <Giwrgaras> http://pastebin.com/yzQPLJrg
[15:40] <Giwrgaras> yes it sees it now
[15:41] <Giwrgaras> netgear
[15:41] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: so it *is* a USB dongle plugged into the side...
[15:41] <Giwrgaras> i just plugged it
[15:41] <daftykins> what.
[15:41] <cfhowlett> !mac | hfp
[15:41] <Giwrgaras> and normally on the upper corner i have to see it right?
[15:41] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: we just spent the last 20 minutes identifying the device and you had it unplugged?
[15:42] <Giwrgaras> thats not the problem daftykins
[15:42] <Giwrgaras> it could see it from the first
[15:42] <Giwrgaras> but i cant choose a wifi
[15:42] <Giwrgaras> it is not working
[15:42] <EriC^^> *facepalm*
[15:42] <Giwrgaras> normally i have to be able to see it on the upper corner
[15:42] <daftykins> that doesn't even matter, you had it out the whole time and said it wasn't USB
[15:43]  * rypervenche pats daftykins on the shoulder.
[15:43] <hfp> cfhowlett: Is the "most recent release" column accurate on that link? Because it says that for 2009 MBPs, the latest is Karmic which is ancient AFAIK
[15:43] <daftykins> rypervenche: hold me!
[15:43] <daftykins> ;)
[15:44] <Giwrgaras> how can i make it work?
[15:44] <Giwrgaras> to be visible on the upper corner like a normal wifi usb devic
[15:44] <Giwrgaras> e
[15:44] <daftykins> !broadcom
[15:44] <daftykins> have a read there, my patience has run out i'm afraid.
[15:45] <cfhowlett> hfp, use 14.04 ... Mac support has gotten better over the yers
[15:45] <Giwrgaras> yes but im on a net cafe please
[15:45] <Giwrgaras> i dont have lots of time
[15:45] <Giwrgaras> thats why it took me so long to answer
[15:45] <daftykins> Giwrgaras: don't care, sorry.
[15:45] <rypervenche> Giwrgaras: I would suggest coming back when you have some time to properly troubleshoot this.
[15:45] <hfp> cfhowlett: Ok, gotta go now I'll try that later. Thanks
[15:46] <cfhowlett> hfp, happy2help!
[15:46] <Giwrgaras> ...
[15:46] <Giwrgaras> yeah how about now some troublesouting?
[15:46] <Giwrgaras> what can i do now ?
[15:46] <Giwrgaras> do i have to download drivers?
[15:47] <Giwrgaras> wifi drivers?
[15:47] <ioria> Giwrgaras, don't know if things have changed, but seems that your dongle will work only with ndiswrapper http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251
[15:48] <ioria> Giwrgaras, in other words you should use the windows drivers
[15:48] <Giwrgaras> ok so i have to install the ndswrapper
[15:48] <Giwrgaras> ?
[15:49] <OerHeks> maybe the drivertool gives a solution, did you check that? alt F2: type driver in search
[15:49] <ioria> Giwrgaras, yes, follow the link
[15:49] <Giwrgaras> ok
[15:49] <B-Max> I do have a follow up question, though: how can I make it so that my Ubuntu server can ONLY go through the proxy? In other words, how can I block all non-proxied requests?
[15:49] <Giwrgaras> what is the command for ndiswrapper ?
[15:49] <Giwrgaras> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk ndiswrapper-dkms dkms linux-headers-generic build-essential
[15:49] <Giwrgaras> this one?
[15:50] <Ramzi> how nwould i go about puting a package on a flash stick and installing said pkg on a diff machine from said stick
[15:50] <Giwrgaras> or this one?
[15:50] <Giwrgaras> sudo modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[15:50] <Giwrgaras> sudo ndiswrapper -ma
[15:50] <Giwrgaras> dmesg | grep ndis
[15:50] <Giwrgaras> lsmod
[15:50] <Giwrgaras> iwconfig
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> B-Max  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:51] <OerHeks> Ramzi, dpkg -i <package>.deb
[15:52] <Amoz> Ramzi, just make sure you have all dependencies etc.
[15:53] <Amoz> it would certainly help if you could tell us what package you're referring to
[15:53] <Ramzi> How can I include all of the dependencies?  Like can I just copy a particular directory from a system that has them and put them in the same dir on the other system?
[15:53] <feneco> is there anyway to make ubuntu display the whole <select> in pages like os x?
[15:54] <OerHeks> !offline | Ramzi for dependencies., you didn't mention it, use this method:
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> feneco  select from what and display where?
[15:55] <feneco> MonkeyDust from webpages, on browsers. on ubuntu and windows, when the <select> is too big, it shows just some options, while on osx, it shows a big list of options
[15:55] <Ramzi> it sounds like that method may require an internet connection... what if the box is offline, i.e. I want to just copy all of the packages from one system to another via USB stick...
[15:56] <feneco> not sure if you get what i mean
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> feneco  what is the <select> exactly?
[15:56] <Ramzi> I know it's easy if there's just one or two packages, I can just install the dpkg file, but how can I accommodate the dependencies, is there a location where dpkg will look to find these first?
[15:56] <Ramzi> Like in FreeBSD I can place dependencies in a directory and when installing it will check there before trying to go online to download them...
[15:57] <daftykins> feneco: yep no idea what you mean
[15:57] <int-main> Anyone with knowledge of networking here?
[15:58] <Ramzi> int -main shoot
[15:58] <daftykins> int-main: either here or more appropriately, ##networking
[15:58] <PrinceOfCats> We probably all know about networking, the question is at what level :-)
[15:58] <feneco> daftykins MonkeyDust i will show in a minute
[15:58] <feneco> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/p4crvxebhkuaxl2/5BEFEC49-BC37-40AD-AA67-13972CB7336F-3536-0000323F4D6A4754.gif?dl=0
[15:59] <int-main> so I'm using dnsmasq, the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is 127.0.0.1 and listener in dnsmasq is also the same (127.0.0.1), what I wonder is what DNS it will connect to if no local cache is found?
[15:59] <daftykins> feneco: oh so a drop-down menu
[15:59] <feneco> yeah, a dropdown menu
[15:59] <OerHeks> !offline | Ramzi again: for dependencies, use this method:
[15:59] <daftykins> feneco: that's nothing to do with ubuntu support then really
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> feneco  is that a html tag?
[15:59] <feneco> MonkeyDust yes
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> feneco  that's not for this channel
[16:00] <Amoz> Ramzi, maybe this could help as well? http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/517
[16:00] <feneco> MonkeyDust the thing is, on ubuntu it doesnt show like that
[16:00] <feneco> its not about the html tag i guess
[16:00] <OerHeks> Ramzi, You do need an internetconnection to perform this.
[16:00] <feneco> seems to be something in the OS
[16:00] <k1l_> feneco: where on ubuntu?
[16:00] <k1l_> feneco: in what program?
[16:00] <feneco> k1l_ any browser
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> feneco  better ask in #html5 i guess
[16:01] <feneco> i will try MonkeyDust
[16:02] <k1l_> yeah, i think that better suits into webdev channel
[16:05] <feneco> thank you
[16:05] <daftykins> int-main: tbh i purge resolvconf and hardcode DNS the first chance i get on servers ;)
[16:06] <int-main> daftykins: you mean custom DNS?
[16:07] <daftykins> int-main: well, be it ISP or an online provider, whichever
[16:07] <daftykins> i just don't trust or require the automated hassles :)
[16:08] <rockstar_> why ultimateguitar launch autoscroll don't show up in Ubuntu>Chrome? For example in this link >> http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/e/ellie_goulding/burn_ver3_crd.htm#
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> rockstar_  what is there to see in that link? looks perfectly normal
[16:12] <bomberman> can i play steam games on ubuntu 14.04?
[16:13] <daftykins> bomberman: yes, ones which have the little Tux penguin beside them on Steam's website
[16:13] <urist_> yeahhh... not all developers do a good job though
[16:13] <urist_> some linux games are very buggy
[16:13] <urist_> but im just happy that's an option these days
 thx
[16:14] <rockstar_> MonkeyDust: as I mentioned Launch Autoscroll button on left, it is supposed pop up scroller, if clicked.
[16:19] <OerHeks> rockstar_, works fine here, autoscroll. maybe you have an agressive popupblocker?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> rockstar_  ok, i see what you mean... it pops up here, in firefox
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> nice, never seen it before
[16:21] <OerHeks> me2
[16:22] <rockstar_> MonkeyDust: thanks. Its strange though. I tried it in firefox yesterday didn't happen. Now its working in firefox. Then it started working in Chrome too.
[16:23] <rockstar_> MonkeyDust: Did you use ultimateguitar website before? :)
[16:23] <thepatze1> @rockstar i know i did back in the days :)
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> rockstar_  never, tried playing the guitar for a while, but i'll leave it to more talented people
[16:24] <rockstar_> MonkeyDust: thepatze1 thank you :)
[16:32] <thepatze1> little off topic but what's the best irc client? I am running irssi but i doesn't work as desired
[16:32] <disconnectedave> xchat
[16:33] <OerHeks> xchat is discontinued, use Hexcaht as supported clone
[16:33] <OerHeks> *Hexchat
[16:33] <thepatze1> thx disconnectedave
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> thepatze1  "best" is what suits you most, it's a personal choice
[16:33] <OerHeks> or weechat within terminal
[16:33] <thepatze1> hexcaht hm maybe i give that a try then
[16:33] <disconnectedave> damn didnt know
[16:34] <thepatze1> i wanted to be able to switch from root to user in terminal while stay root and start irc client
[16:34] <thepatze1> it works with irssi but sometimes it doesn't recognize commands. I have an ancient computer
[16:35] <OerHeks> irc client as root .. sure you have a reason for it ....
[16:35] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[16:35] <thepatze1> nono OerHeks i switch via su - my username and start as this user
[16:35] <thepatze1> not crazy enough to go irc with root ;)
[16:36] <thepatze1> my useraccount has not privileges at all not even sudo
[16:37] <boeng> hello
[16:38] <thepatze1> 'sup boeng
[16:38] <OerHeks> thepatze1,  you are fine :-)
[16:39] <boeng> where is this
[16:39] <disconnectedave> this is the world wide web
[16:39] <disconnectedave> welcome
[16:40] <ElliotA> hahaha
[16:40] <boeng> oic
[16:40] <boeng> very very old skul
[16:44] <rk> hello
[16:44] <thepatze1> hello
[16:44] <daftykins> hi
[16:45] <CosmicNoises> Hello.
[16:46] <thepatze1> dayum weed is stronger than i is ;)
[16:46] <CosmicNoises> thepatze1, you're about to be moved along to the chat channel...
[16:46] <TJ-> Finally discovered why Firefox is rendering its interface with oversized elements as this shows: http://imgur.com/x4yuvZb    It has suddenly decided it's using a high-DPI display (display hasn't changed). The fix is to change the user preference "layout.css.devPixelsPerPx" to "1.0" scaling rather than the default "-1.0" which allows Firefox to alter the scaling factor.
[16:46] <austinprog> I am very dissapointed with windows, how do I delete my windows distro and make my ubuntu distro the onlyone?
[16:46] <austinprog> currently its dual boot
[16:47] <thepatze1> just get the recent flavor and dd it onto your usb stick
[16:47] <aoeu124> I used to always use ALT+D to open the address bar in firefox, now it also opens the Unity interface over top of it. How can I stop this from happening?
[16:47] <daftykins> TJ-: odd, i had read FF was coming with high DPI icons in v40
[16:47] <thepatze1> you can choose xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu
[16:47] <CosmicNoises> austin, I'd probably judt delete it using Gparted and then update grub.
[16:47] <g2000> TJ-: Congratz! :D
[16:47] <daftykins> alt+D? what about Ctrl+L
[16:47] <CosmicNoises> and use Gparted to extend your ubuntu partition.
[16:48] <thepatze1> i would terminate the entire disk (safe your data)
[16:48] <TJ-> daftykins: Maybe, but I didn't want it scaling at all, certainly not changing the way things had been. Too many so-called 'developers' do not understand the basic premise that you do *not* surprise users
[16:49] <thepatze1> xubuntu i like the most
[16:49] <aoeu124> daftykins: Thanks,  guess I'll have to get used to using a new combination. Weird they have two different key combinations for the address bar.
[16:49] <Amoz> austinprog, depending on what the layout of the disk I'd just delete the windows partition and resize my ubuntu partition
[16:49] <TJ-> g2000: Took long enough to figure out - useful bit of knowledge there :)
[16:49] <daftykins> aoeu124: i never knew of the one you used, ctrl+L has been browser-agnostic forever
[16:51] <thepatze1> Best bet to me always was to wipe the disk and install a dew morning fresh linux distro
 I did some :(
[16:52] <austinprog> thanks Amoz
 WIndows 10?
[16:53] <TJ-> austin: If the current Ubuntu install is using LVM then you could over-write the start of the Windows partition file-system to stop tools seeing it, then add that partition as a LVM Physical Volume to the existing Ubuntu Volume Group, and then assign the space as you require for Ubuntu. Also, after wiping out Windows do "update-grub" so it is removed from GRUB's menu (os-prober will no longer find it)
[16:54] <boeng> gtg ppl
[16:54] <thepatze1> see you
[16:54] <boeng> gdnite
[16:54] <thepatze1> nite
[16:55] <boeng> 12.54 am
[16:55] <bomberman> no , when i installed ubuntu , on disk space i deleted my  windows location
[16:56] <killer> Hey ,anyone installed ubuntu on macbook air (2015) ? How does it perform with  battery?
[16:56] <daftykins> !mac
[16:56] <daftykins> any info for your model there?
[16:58] <vincenzo> ciao a tutti
[16:58] <killer> I think the page has not been updated , the latest model it lists is "Macbook 2012"
[16:59] <daftykins> killer: ah ok, it's a wiki so anyone can edit
[16:59] <bomberman> Can anyone help me with installing my chipset driver on Ubuntu ?
[16:59] <daftykins> bomberman: what chipset driver?
[17:00] <CosmicNoises> My /boot directory gets FULL of images after a while. I take it my system is failing to delete old images during updates.
[17:01] <CosmicNoises> Any ideas?
  AMD A6-3670 APU
[17:01] <Amoz> CosmicNoises, old kernels?
[17:01] <CosmicNoises> Amoz, yeah.
[17:01] <Amoz> those aren't automatically removed
[17:01] <Amoz> afaik
[17:01] <OerHeks> CosmicNoises, there is no automatic removal of old kernels, you need to do this manually
[17:01] <CosmicNoises> Amoz, why not? It means my updates stop working eventually.
[17:01] <CosmicNoises> Because of no space left in /boot.
[17:01] <daftykins> CosmicNoises: shouldn't have made a separate /boot
[17:02] <daftykins> or given it more space
[17:02] <Black_Star> Hello
[17:02] <Amoz> CosmicNoises, the reason is that it would break some systems if you suddenly removed stable kernels, and if the newer kernels fail to boot
[17:02] <daftykins> bomberman: so do you really mean graphics drivers?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> CosmicNoises:  that would be your / dir  not boot afaik
[17:03] <TJ-> CosmicNoises: it's been a long-running annoyance but so far no plan to permanently solve it has emerged. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[17:03] <Amoz> CosmicNoises, you could pastebin the output from dpkg --list | grep linux please?
 No , i have installed catalyst control center for my graphical card , but i mean cpu driver
[17:03] <daftykins> bomberman: that's not a thing.
[17:03] <daftykins> bomberman: if you needed a CPU driver, you would not have booted :)
[17:04] <Amoz> bomberman, if you installed CCC then the fglrx module should be there as well I think
[17:04] <daftykins> i think that's the point made, yeah
[17:05] <Black_Star> I don't speak english :( :(
 So i don't need that installation?
[17:05] <Black_Star> i speak italian
[17:05] <daftykins> Black_Star: what do you speak?
[17:05] <daftykins> !it
[17:05] <daftykins> might be someone there, Black_Star
[17:05] <daftykins> bomberman: no, you don't need CPU drivers - that's not a thing :)
[17:05] <daftykins> not on any OS o0
[17:05] <Exagone313> Hello, is there a dns server that uses root servers which allow fixed address for a specific subnet? I want my users through my VPN (192.168.42/24) to have my domain names resolved to 192.168.42.1 and the connections out of the VPN to have the correct IP address. Also I have thousands of domains to set to 0.0.0.0 for all users. Actually I use dnsmasq, no root server, and only for the VPN (and the server itself). Thanks for helping.
 fglrx that is command ?
[17:06] <Amoz> bomberman, what exactly are you trying to do? I suppose you want the GPU module, no?
[17:07] <daftykins> bomberman: no fglrx is the name of the AMD graphics driver module
[17:07] <daftykins> Amoz: nope re-read :)
[17:07] <daftykins> bomberman was just after a non-existant thing, all is well
 Ok, i got it , thx for helping
[17:08] <Amoz> daftykins, he probably is after *something*, it's just that his tech-abilities confused him ;)
[17:08] <daftykins> Amoz: yeah but it was clear to me *shrug* :)
[17:09] <x4w3> lordievader: i had linux-firmware installed.
[17:10] <delta9> how do I setup automaTIC UPDATES?
[17:10] <delta9> sorry for caps
[17:12] <shamurai> Delta9, you could edit your /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades file but probably not suggested.
[17:12] <OerHeks> delta9, open dash: software & updates, and see 3th tab updates "download and install immediatly'
[17:12] <shamurai> Delta9, heres a link with more info. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[17:14] <delta9> OerHeks, thanks
[17:16] <shamurai> OerHeks, won't that just do security updates?
[17:16] <OerHeks> shamurai, yes
[17:17] <lordievader> x4w3: Do you see anything in the systemlog when you plug it in?
[17:17] <shamurai> I guess I thought delta9 was asking for all updates
[17:18] <OerHeks> SharkMa-san, there is no such option, i wish there is, with the optional dist-upgrade too
[17:18] <OerHeks> shamurai ^^
[17:18] <bitwiggler> Should this be expected to be missing? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/sqlite3/libsqlite3-0_3.7.9-2ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb
[17:20] <OerHeks> bitwiggler, yes
[17:20] <OerHeks> bitwiggler, that package was for the EOL version precise.
[17:20] <bitwiggler> apt-get update keeps finding it.
[17:20] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/sqlite3
[17:20] <shamurai> OerHeks, pretty sure this file can do that. /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[17:20] <Pici> bitwiggler: yes. 1.3.7.9-2ubuntu1.2 is the release in precise-updates/security now. not 1.1
[17:20] <x4w3> lordievader: nothing strange http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001373/
[17:21] <JayBau> my laptop have this switchable graphics, it has Intel and NVidia, but in the software updates, I can only see NVdia and everytime I chose a proprietary driver for it and try to adjust the brightness, it will go very deem and won't be able to adjust it back. so I am using the default driver instead.
[17:21] <bitwiggler> wonder where apt keeps getting it on a fresh install. perhaps 12.04 is no longer supported?
[17:21] <daftykins> JayBau: nvidia will install fine with nvidia-prime, which version of ubuntu is this?
[17:21] <JayBau> I am using 14.04 LTS
[17:21] <daftykins> JayBau: standard unity desktop?
[17:21] <JayBau> this is what I have in lspci
[17:22] <daftykins> don't paste D:
[17:22] <JayBau> yes, standard, nothing changed or customized
[17:22] <JayBau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001348/
[17:22] <OerHeks> Oh, 12.40 is not EOL yet, my bad
[17:22] <daftykins> JayBau: i don't see any nvidia there at all
[17:22] <urist_> 12.4 is still supporteD?
[17:22] <JayBau> (although I tried some solutions already)
[17:22] <lordievader> x4w3: Do you have usbutils installed?
[17:22] <daftykins> urist_: yes
[17:22] <tgm4883> urist_: yes
[17:23] <urist_> cause my 12.4 server hasn't been getting updated for a while now
[17:23] <tgm4883> urist_: you should check that out then
[17:23] <JayBau> that's actually strange because in my software updates tab, I can only see nvidia
[17:23] <bitwiggler> so 12.04 it is
[17:23] <bitwiggler> 12.05 rather
[17:23] <tgm4883> urist_: it's supported until 2017
[17:23] <daftykins> no 12.04
[17:23] <urist_> i didn't know... ty
[17:23] <daftykins> 12.04.5 :>
[17:23] <x4w3> lordievader: yes i have.
[17:23] <bitwiggler> ahh
[17:23] <JayBau> so that means, I should force my machine to use intel driver even if nvidia shows in sotware updates tab?
[17:23] <daftykins> JayBau: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[17:23] <tgm4883> daftykins: which is 12.04 plus updates
[17:24] <daftykins> tgm4883: trust me, i don't need it explained
[17:24] <lordievader> x4w3: Okay, what is the output of usb-devices?
[17:24]  * tgm4883 trusts daftykins explicitly
[17:24] <daftykins> ^_^
[17:24] <JayBau> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001400/
[17:25] <tgm4883> JayBau: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[17:25] <daftykins> JayBau: no sign of nvidia at all, are you sure you're pastebin'ing from the right system? :)
[17:25] <JayBau> I'm about to reinstall the OS to cleanup my mess after trying some solution found in the internet
[17:25] <x4w3> lordievader: lsusb output -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001412/
[17:26] <bitwiggler> so what is the right way to refresh apt to know about the proper versions?
[17:26] <JayBau> @tgm4883 System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers Tab
[17:26] <JayBau> yes, pretty sure
[17:26] <tgm4883> bitwiggler: 'sudo apt-get update'
[17:26] <JayBau> this is Lenovo Z500
[17:27] <daftykins> JayBau: weird, maybe the BIOS/EFI is set to a specific chip and not hybrid mode
[17:27] <lordievader> x4w3: lsbusb != usb-devices
[17:27] <daftykins> can't explain it not showing up in lspci
[17:27] <bitwiggler> tgm4883:  doing that. and it's still insisting on installing an old version
[17:27] <JayBau> not really sure when this Nvidia will be used, I am trying to screenshot the driver tab to show
[17:27] <bitwiggler> fresh docker install everytime
[17:28] <tgm4883> bitwiggler: are you using the standard repos?
[17:28] <bitwiggler> default with ubuntu 12.02
[17:28] <JayBau> ah, let me reboot and check that
[17:28] <bitwiggler> 12.04 rather
[17:28] <x4w3> lordievader: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001430/
[17:30] <lordievader> x4w3: Ah: Driver=(none)
[17:31] <x4w3> lordievader: how can i load it to this device?
[17:31] <JayBau> @daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001442/
[17:31] <lordievader> x4w3: The problem is the linux kernel doesn't have a driver available for that device, else it would have loaded it.
[17:31] <JayBau> I have updated and cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:32] <x4w3> lordievader: ok i build again...
[17:32] <daftykins> JayBau: was it disabled?
[17:32] <daftykins> JayBau: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" (with 'pastebinit' installed)
[17:32] <lordievader> x4w3: The driver?
[17:32] <JayBau> yes, I disabled it earlier because if I accidentally adjust the brightness, it would go deem
[17:32] <x4w3> lordievader: kernel
[17:33] <JayBau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001470/
[17:33] <JayBau> should I install prime?
[17:33] <daftykins> JayBau: ah well if you're going to reinstall anyway, not much point fighting it now
[17:33] <daftykins> it already is on
[17:33] <lordievader> x4w3: Do your sources contain the driver?
[17:34] <daftykins> JayBau: but your nvidia driver isn't in use
[17:34] <daftykins> JayBau: fresh lspci ?
[17:34] <JayBau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001485/
[17:34] <x4w3> lordievader:  when i compile it i do it...
[17:34] <JayBau> I am planning to fix it to know what exactly need to be done, before doing reinstall
[17:35] <lordievader> x4w3: What?
[17:35] <JayBau> it's been 3days now, and no luck
[17:35] <JuJuBee> Need help with a filesystem problem... fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdd1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
[17:35] <daftykins> JayBau: oh, GT 740M hmm... i would "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " (note the * at the end there)
[17:35] <lordievader> x4w3: There is no point in compiling your own kernel if it doesn't have to driver.
[17:36] <JuJuBee> I can read part of the drive but not all
[17:36] <JayBau> daftykins purging nvdia*
[17:36] <JayBau> done
[17:37] <x4w3> lordievader: i did http://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-148f7601-wifi-adapter-installation this installation...
[17:37] <rando3_14> Hi, i'm trying to create a jailed chroot using jailkit, but at the time of ssh login the answer i got is:  ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[17:37] <JayBau> should I install nvidia-prime now?
[17:38] <daftykins> JayBau: reboot
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> rando3_14  did you install openssh-client and/or openssh-server?
[17:38] <skinux> PHP script  says encryptor is missing. I'm trying to use AES encryption, so what package am I missing?
[17:39] <x4w3> lordievader: i installed only the driver and headers...
[17:39] <rando3_14> MonkeyDust:  i controlled, the server was not installed
[17:39] <rando3_14> i'm doing it now
[17:39] <JayBau> daftykins: done rebooting
[17:40] <lordievader> x4w3: The first answer (chile555) compiles just the module, not the kernel.
[17:40] <daftykins> JayBau: what PPAs do you have on? according to ubottu trusty doesn't have 346 o0
[17:40] <rando3_14> ok MonkeyDust , now the connection goes fine, thank you
[17:40] <daftykins> oh yes it does
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> rando3_14  glad i could help
[17:41] <rando3_14> ^^
[17:41] <daftykins> JayBau: "sudo apt-get clean" followed by "sudo apt-get install nvidia-346 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[17:41] <x4w3> lordievader:  yes but in current kernel not run the driver. I will try include driver to kernel.. :) thank u.
[17:42] <artois> no /proc/config.gz for 15.04 live image?
[17:42] <JayBau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001530/
[17:42] <JayBau> here's the list of PPA
[17:42] <BotchlaB> daftykins: Out of curiosity, what does "sudo apt-get clean" do exactly?
[17:42] <wad> Do you guys know of a way to put data into my copy-paste buffer, from the commandline?
[17:42] <SimonNL> hey kadiro!
[17:42] <daftykins> BotchlaB: clear locally cached debs
[17:42] <kadiro> hi SimonNL
[17:42] <artois> wad: xclip -selection clipboard
[17:42] <kadiro> thk's SimonNL that worked
[17:42] <lordievader> x4w3: What error do you get when you try to modprobe the driver?
[17:42] <JuJuBee> anybody assist with filesystem errors
[17:43] <kadiro> hi every body
[17:43] <wad> artois, thanks! I'll look into that.
[17:43] <SimonNL> kadiro: > your welcome CU \o
[17:43] <daftykins> JuJuBee: step 1 is ask
[17:43] <JuJuBee> I did...  Need help with a filesystem problem... fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdd1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
[17:43] <kadiro> finally i have another help ( i hop it's not like mint with no help )
[17:43] <x4w3> lordievader:  modprobe mt7601Usta have no output
[17:43] <daftykins> kadiro: are you using mint?
[17:44] <kadiro> yes daftykins
[17:44] <daftykins> !mint | kadiro sorry
[17:44] <JayBau> daftykins: it's downloading 349mb, this would take a while :)
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  mint is too different from uibuntu, it's not supported here
[17:44] <lordievader> x4w3: So the driver loads fine...
[17:44] <wad> Aaaahhh, sweet! cat foo | xclip -i
[17:45] <kadiro> ok guys, i don't want to ask any thing about mint
[17:45] <lordievader> x4w3: Did you modprobe it before plugging in the device?
[17:45] <x4w3> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001549/
[17:45] <kadiro> i have lubuntu too
[17:45] <Amoz> kadiro, ask your question then
[17:45] <x4w3> lordievader: no, after.
[17:45] <kadiro> thk's to you all
[17:46] <lordievader> x4w3: Ah, unplug and plug back in, then take another look at usb-devices.
[17:46] <kadiro> my only problem i think in lubuntu is update-grub take a long times and the boot too ( with or withou deleting quiet splash )
[17:46] <daftykins> JayBau: sounds like it's getting more than just the nvidia packages
[17:47] <Amoz> kadiro, define "long time"
[17:47] <x4w3> lordievader: Driver=(none)
[17:47] <daftykins> JuJuBee: share a pastebin of "sudo parted -l" and also have you checked the health of sdd recently? is it a mechanical disk?
[17:47] <aarobc> hi! so, I can't figure out how to start a terminal based on a udev rule
[17:47] <kadiro> about 3 to 5 minute for update and 10 minutes to boot
[17:47] <aarobc> I know udev stuff runs as root, but I can't think why that would matter
[17:47] <skinux> Can anyone tell me what package I need so Apache/PHP has AES encryption support?
[17:47] <kadiro> I'm not now from ubuntu to check
[17:48] <JayBau> daftykins: I bought this laptop 2years ago with a Win8 on it. After the warranty period, I decided to install Ubuntu on it and facing this problem
[17:48] <Amoz> skinux, AES?
[17:48] <daftykins> JayBau: ok, that doesn't affect anything though
[17:48] <skinux> Yeah
[17:48] <artois> any way to get at /proc/config.gz or equivalent from 15.04 image?
[17:48] <JuJuBee> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/86Fnh00a  but sdd1 (my /backup drive) is not mounted
[17:48] <JayBau> next time, I will buy something that has ubuntu loaded on it to avoid these problems
[17:48] <kadiro> can be a problem in my IDE cable cause that?
[17:48] <lordievader> x4w3: You could try to see what udev says about it when you plug it in.
[17:48] <JayBau> atleast, I will be sure that Ubuntu works fine :)
[17:49] <Amoz> kadiro, sounds like you have a very old drive :P
[17:49] <daftykins> JuJuBee: how is it connected? what type of drive is it?
[17:49] <kadiro> yes Amoz :/
[17:49] <JuJuBee> daftykins: it is a 2T sata drive internal\
[17:50] <skinux> Amoz: Why is that surprising?
[17:50] <x4w3> lordievader: by default in ubuntu udev is not debugging, isnt it?
[17:50] <daftykins> JuJuBee: "dmesg > /tmp/test" then "pastebinit /tmp/test"
[17:50] <lordievader> x4w3: sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev
[17:51] <kadiro> so Amoz my drive cause that?
[17:51] <JayBau> daftykins: done installing
[17:52] <JuJuBee> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/KcZE8Kqq
[17:52] <JayBau> should I reboot?
[17:52] <x4w3> lordievader: the udevadm monitor output here -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001593/
[17:52] <daftykins> JayBau: reboot then and fresh /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:52] <kadiro> any one can help me?
[17:52] <daftykins> JuJuBee: bad cable or dead disk
[17:53] <JuJuBee> daftykins: crap, prolly not a cable, but I can hope I guess...
[17:53] <lordievader> x4w3: Hmm, that is not very informative, is it...
[17:53] <daftykins> JuJuBee: ;]
[17:53] <kadiro> damn i'm invisible here
[17:53] <daftykins> JuJuBee: looks bad
[17:53] <x4w3> lordievader: monitor not show more, it continue running...
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> !patience | kadiro
[17:54] <JuJuBee> OK, well I will shutdown and check cable first... Thanks daftykins
[17:54] <daftykins> np
[17:55] <aarobc> can anyone tell me how to start a terminal from a udev script?
[17:55] <TJ-> skinux: apache2 uses libcrypto++/libssl - to specify specific algorithms uses apache's SSLCipherSuite
[17:55] <JayBau> hdaftykins: ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12001616/
[17:55] <Amoz> skinux, you probably just need the normal packages for SSL support, and then set your conf to exclusively use AES in that case.
[17:55] <kadiro> thk's guys for yours suggession but i searched before with no answer ( my internet is very slow to do a lot search too )
[17:55] <JayBau> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12001616/
[17:55] <lordievader> x4w3: I'm not really sure what to do at this point.
[17:55] <kadiro> from here is very fast
[17:55] <lordievader> TJ-: Could you assist in a (usb wifi) driver problem?
[17:56] <x4w3> lordievader: thank u, dont worry other wifi card is coming from amazon.
[17:56] <tehcha> lordievader is it weird that i like women with a lot of facial hair?
[17:56] <daftykins> JayBau: nvidia loading properly now, see how you get on
[17:57] <JayBau> didn't worked, when I hit the adjust brightness, it's still going deem
[17:57] <tehcha> lordievader my gf has dreadlocks hanging from her armpits i wring em out and drink the precious juices
[17:57] <skinux> Tried to install the library, it thinks I'm trying to use regex.
[17:57] <TJ-> lordievader: I'm not paying great attention right now; cooking :)
[17:57] <JayBau> deem like you would put your face on it to see what is being displayed
[17:58] <lordievader> TJ-: Nevermind, x4w3 said he has another card coming in. Thanks anyways.
[17:58] <daftykins> JayBau: down but not up? i don't really follow
[17:58] <lordievader> Pici: Thank you, but he is back already.
[17:58] <kadiro> I will help now until some one may be have an answer
[17:58] <tehcha> sorry i wont do it agian :(
[17:59] <JayBau> daftykins: once you adjust the brightness, down or up, it will be deemed
[17:59] <daftykins> deemed?
[17:59] <Amoz> kadiro, it's hard to say why. You could try another distro/version/fresh install, or you can install bootchart and check where the time is spent.
[17:59] <Pici> daftykins: "dimmed" maybe?
[18:00] <JayBau> daftykins: oh yes :)
[18:00] <daftykins> no idea then
[18:00] <kadiro> thk's Amoz i will try bootchat
[18:00] <daftykins> JayBau: latest system BIOS on?
[18:00] <JayBau> daftykins: that's the reason why I disabled it in my BIOS to avoid this problem
[18:01] <daftykins> i don't entirely follow tbh
[18:02] <thepatze1> Offtopic i gues but can someone explain to me what /dev/null means? I know i could have googled it but i prefer to talk to breating ,living human beings :)
[18:02] <JayBau> daftykins: hhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/12001660/
[18:02] <Leverquin_> anyone? hello
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> thepatze1  /dev/null means "nowhere", like 2>/dev/null sends error messages to 'nowhere', meaning they're not displayed
[18:03] <pbx> Leverquin_, jump in and ask your question
[18:03] <kadiro> you are like me thepatze1
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> thepatze1  keep it in the channel
[18:04] <thepatze1> hoe is it useful @ MokeyDust=
[18:04] <thepatze1> ?
[18:04] <thepatze1> How
[18:04] <p1l0t> Neither of my browsers will load, syslog says database closed ( org.gnome.zeitgeist.SimpleIndexer[27587])
[18:04] <pbx> thepatze1, sometimes you have a command whose output you don't care about (and don't want clutttering up your terminal)
[18:04] <Leverquin_> well i am bit interesting in linux. i have seen one on computers on my univeristy and they didn't have internet (for some reason) and i didn't find in that time interesting. but now i do. any suggetsion? i am on win 7
[18:04] <p1l0t> Chromium and Firefox throwing same error. I'd google it but heh..
[18:05] <BotchlaB> Leverquin_: Try out some liveCDs, explore, see what you like.
[18:05] <Amoz> Leverquin_, put Ubuntu on an USB and try it out.
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> thepatze1  like so, also try it without the 2>/dev/null    find / -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[18:05] <thepatze1> like a commands output is send into the void?
[18:05] <Leverquin_> does live cd work on usb? i am kinda... out of burner.
[18:05] <Amoz> thepatze1, yes
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Leverquin_  yes
[18:05] <BotchlaB> Leverquin_: Yes, but your computer needs to support booting from a USB as well. Most modern computers do.
[18:06] <BotchlaB> Leverquin_, use something like UNetBootin to make a USB bootable from an ISO file.
[18:06] <Leverquin_> my computer is around 6years old.
[18:06] <BotchlaB> Leverquin_, when your computer turns on, during the POST, see if you can press F12 or something to see which devices it can boot from.
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Leverquin_  that's younger than mine
[18:07] <Leverquin_> okay.
[18:07] <Leverquin_> lol.
[18:07] <BotchlaB> If USB is not an option, try and see if you can use an optical drive.
[18:07] <BotchlaB> It's what I had to do.
[18:07] <kadiro> Leverquin_: mine old than yours and support to boot from an usb
[18:07] <Leverquin_> anyway. i am not IT expert. I am journalist. without job. and i just wanna learn C.
[18:07] <JayBau> daftykins: this machine should stay with Windows and I need to buy another one that would work perfectly on Ubuntu...
[18:07] <Amoz> Leverquin_, that's the spirit. Do you have an USB handy?
[18:08] <Leverquin_> yes i have like 6usb ports.
[18:08] <Amoz> Leverquin_, USB *stick*
[18:08] <BotchlaB> They mean a USB pen drive, Leverquin_.
[18:08] <daftykins> JayBau: i can't really help you with finding if you have a BIOS update available... just look up the page for the machine :)
[18:08] <Leverquin_> ah yes i have 1.5 tb usb "stick"
[18:08] <kadiro> flash disk
[18:08] <kadiro> good
[18:08] <Leverquin_> 2tb actually
[18:08] <BotchlaB> TB????
[18:08] <Leverquin_> :#
[18:08] <p1l0t> DAYUM
[18:08] <BotchlaB> You mean GB? lol
[18:08] <kadiro> this exist?
[18:09] <kadiro> loll i'm confused
[18:09] <thepatze1> if one was about to cat /etc/passwd 2>/dev/null what would happen from a security perspective?
[18:09] <thepatze1> on a remote host
[18:09] <BotchlaB> Probably just a mistake on their part.
[18:09] <Amoz> thepatze1, not much
[18:09] <tonyyarusso> thepatze1: Nothing.
[18:09] <p1l0t> Neither of my browsers will load, syslog says database closed ( org.gnome.zeitgeist.SimpleIndexer[27587]) I'm trying not to have to reboot here, but I can't really google this either.
[18:09] <Leverquin_> yea its toshiba
[18:10] <Amoz> p1l0t, is it possible the zeitgeist db is full?
[18:10] <JayBau> daftykins: I understand, but thanks for trying. really appreciate it :)
[18:10] <arunpyasi> guys, is cdimage.ubuntu.com down ??
[18:10] <Leverquin_> problem is i cant choice: what i see on university was ubuntu but after reading some info on net there are like a lot of linuxes...
[18:10] <Amoz> arunpyasi, nope
[18:11] <daftykins> arunpyasi: fine here too
[18:11] <kadiro> yes Leverquin_
[18:11] <Leverquin_> is it ubuntu good for start?
[18:11] <Amoz> Leverquin_, you are new, right? Then use ubunt
[18:11] <Amoz> ubuntu*
[18:11] <Leverquin_> pretty new
[18:11] <Leverquin_> like new born.
[18:11] <arunpyasi> its not opening in my end
[18:11] <Amoz> then you're at the right place Leverquin_
[18:11] <kadiro> Leverquin_: I began from ubuntu
[18:11] <p1l0t> Amoz: Maybe something to do with this? com.canonical.Unity.Scope.File.Gdrive[27587]: (process:30575): accounts-glib-WARNING **: Cannot create directory: /home/p1l0t/.config/libaccounts-glib
[18:12] <Amoz> p1l0t, do you have free space on disk?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> thepatze1  it displays the passwd file... 2>/dev/null is useless, because there are no errors
[18:12] <Leverquin_> ok i hope i will not fu. up something.
[18:12] <p1l0t> Amoz: I should but I'll double check
[18:12] <devops_guy> Does anyone know how to get right click working for Ubuntu 14.04 on a chromebook pixel 2015 model?
[18:12] <Amoz> Leverquin_, if you just try it out on a USB stick then you shouldn't destroy anything.
[18:12] <Leverquin_> ah yes one question: if i keep win 7 and install linux. do i need to reinstall on programs? like i dunno hexchat?
[18:12] <Bashing-om> Leverquin_: That is the beauty of linux, choice. Try an few and see what you like . ubuntu is the favored here on the channel .
[18:12] <kadiro> p1l0t: what about typing from terminal: sudo chown -R p1l0t /home/p1l0t/.config/libaccounts-glib
[18:13] <ramsub08> hello, my system is connected to a router and that router is the part of LAN. How do i scan other systems that are part of the LAN to which my router is connected ?
[18:13] <Amoz> Leverquin_, Ubuntu is a completely different OS, nothing you see in windows will be "available" in Ubuntu, except for the actual Windows filesystem, which you can mount to e.g. reach files.
[18:13] <ramsub08> *scan using nmap
[18:13] <BotchlaB> Leverquin_: You'll need to get HexChat for your separate Ubuntu install, yes; I am sure there's a way to save configurations though.
[18:13] <Leverquin_> so i need to install every thing again?
[18:14] <Amoz> Leverquin_, it's a different OS, of course you have to setup everything there.
[18:14] <kadiro> ramsub08: good question i hop some one give an answer
[18:14] <Leverquin_> .......jessus
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> !pm | thepatze1
[18:14] <Amoz> Leverquin_, have you never reinstalled Windows before?
[18:14] <Leverquin_> i did.
[18:15] <Amoz> Leverquin_, did you lose all your data and programs back then?
[18:15] <Leverquin_> yes
[18:15] <Amoz> as in, did you have to reinstall stuff?
[18:15] <Leverquin_> indeed
[18:15] <Amoz> think of a fresh install of Ubuntu as the same thing
[18:15] <Leverquin_> oh i see.
[18:15] <Leverquin_> thank amoz
[18:15] <kadiro> Leverquin_: installing ubuntu you will have two systems without loosing anything in windows exept if you do an format or an mistakes when installng it
[18:16] <p1l0t> kadiro: It's still saying "database has been closed"
[18:16] <Leverquin_> i hope i iwll not
[18:16] <Amoz> Leverquin_, although, a good thing with Linux is that you can easily have two separate partitions, such that your personal data in /home can stay, while the system is reformatted.
[18:16] <kadiro> p1l0t: and the other message error disapeered?
[18:16] <p1l0t> kadiro: yes
[18:17] <kadiro> good
[18:17] <Leverquin_> what version of ununtu to get?
[18:17] <kadiro> for a message about database i have no idea, but i like to know what the application is about?
[18:17] <thepatze1> latest lts i figure
[18:17] <Amoz> Leverquin_, depends on what you want, but I'd recommend 14.04 for stability.
[18:18] <BotchlaB> Leverquin_: For people new to Ubuntu, 14.04, the current LTS, seems to be the best bet.
[18:18] <Bashing-om> Leverquin_: "what version of ununtu to get?" for a new user 14.04 !
[18:18] <thepatze1> I can sign that
[18:18] <Leverquin_> ok so no 15.04
[18:18] <thepatze1> lts is best bet
[18:18] <thepatze1> 14.04
[18:18] <urist_> im sure 15.04 is fine but if you are new you want something stable
[18:18] <Leverquin_> aye!
[18:18] <urist_> i still use 14.04 and it works very well
[18:18] <kadiro> ah i see your browser can't connect to internet? p1l0t
[18:19] <urist_> im curious to try ubuntu mate though... ppl seem to love it
[18:19] <p1l0t> kadiro: the browser won't even load
[18:19] <p1l0t> kadiro: neither firefox or chromuim
[18:19] <Bashing-om> Leverquin_: Release 15.04 is an interim release, support ends in 9 months from date of release. That EOL is Jan . Not much time to learn the ropes .
[18:19] <thepatze1> mate mimics the old gnome2 desktop
[18:20] <thepatze1> i like that
[18:20] <Leverquin_> in my country there are wise words: even God loves when it free :)
[18:20] <urist_> yeah... supposed to be pretty light too... maybe not as light as fxce
[18:20] <urist_> but pretty good
[18:20] <thepatze1> i prefer xfce
[18:20] <urist_> don't know if i want to replace my xfce install
[18:20] <urist_> i like it a lot
[18:20] <p1l0t> kadiro: I don't know what zeitgeist-fts is, I'd google it but I can't. I assume if I reboot I might be alright I just dual monitors and 4 workspaces up and don't want to loose everything
[18:20] <kadiro> p1l0t: surelly something about your utf i think
[18:21] <urist_> thepatze1: u use Xubuntu?
[18:21] <kadiro> firewall* utf
[18:21] <p1l0t> Oh wait my phone.. haha I can google on my phone browser
[18:22] <kadiro> good
[18:23] <kadiro> brb
[18:23] <thepatze1> xfce is my desktop and wm3 is nice aswell
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> p1l0t  i guess zeitgeist is what is used to have access to "recent files" in apps
[18:24] <p1l0t> MonkeyDust: maybe I can restart zerigiest service?
[18:24] <p1l0t> MY SPELLING haha
[18:24] <slayer> hello
[18:25] <arunpyasi> now its fine :D
[18:25] <slayer> Im new
[18:26] <thepatze1> I dislike ubuntu because of its unity comercials
[18:26] <thepatze1> is gnome-fallback even possible anymore?
[18:26] <artois> if you want old GNOME, you should probably go with MATE instead
[18:26] <artois> or Xfce
[18:27] <tonyyarusso> thepatze1: I haven't tried 15.04, but it is in 14.04, renamed flashback instead of fallback.
[18:27] <urist_> I actually like unity. I love the HUD and the dash
[18:27] <BottomNotch> I'm having issues getting my touchscreen working
[18:29] <p1l0t> What is the proper way to restart the Zeitgeist deamon
[18:30] <p1l0t> zietgeist-deamon --restart
[18:32] <BottomNotch> anyone know how to get a touchscreen working if the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen don't work?
[18:36] <bittin> Firefox for iOS is released to the public in 1-3 weeks someone whispered in my irc
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> bittin  this is ubuntu support
[18:37] <BottomNotch>  out of te 1797 users here no one can help me :/
[18:38] <iamIma> what is it?
[18:38] <BottomNotch> I can't get my touchscreen to work
[18:38] <BottomNotch> I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen but I only got it sorta working
[18:38] <iamIma> sorry man, i have no experience with touchscreens :/
[18:39] <BottomNotch> and callibration didn't help
[18:39] <pbx> BottomNotch, touchscreen on my latitude e7240 works, but i never use it. what's broken?
[18:39] <MeatPopsicle> anyone have an idea why I am getting this error- http://pastebin.com/Umba7UaX
[18:39] <iamIma> I didnt even know that ubuntu had touchscreen support
[18:40] <g2000> MeatPopsicle: remove space before /dev/sdb
[18:40] <BottomNotch> I follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> MeatPopsicle  what g2000 says, i saw it too
[18:40] <BottomNotch> I found my touchscreen on ttyS4
[18:41] <BottomNotch> I try to attach and a few sorta work
[18:41] <MeatPopsicle> was it really that stupid of an error -____-
[18:41] <BottomNotch> but no make it usable
[18:41] <kadiro> re
[18:41] <BottomNotch> even with callibration
[18:42] <g2000> MeatPopsicle: I know that feeling :D
[18:42] <pbx> BottomNotch, mine "just worked" with a standard 14.04 install so i'm afraid i'm no use to you
[18:42] <MeatPopsicle> im not a smart man sometimes
[18:43] <MeatPopsicle> Now to fix my other laptop and toss something on it, maybe Ubuntu Mate
[18:43] <g2000> BottomNotch: What do you mean by "sorta work"?
[18:44] <BottomNotch> g2000, with mtouch when I touch the screen it goes crazy and it like i'm pressing everywhere at once and calibration doesn't fix it
[18:44] <kadiro> I have question about DE, between lxde and xfce who is best? ( I'm using lxde for both lubuntu and fedora )
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> kadiro  "best" depends on what you prefer
[18:45] <p1l0t> So I did a zeitgeist-daemon -q and then attempted to start it again. I got this: Could not access the database file.
[18:45] <urist_> i think lxde and xfce are pretty comparable... I personally like fxce just cause it looks a bit nicer
[18:45] <p1l0t> Please check the permissions of file /home/p1l0t/.local/share/zeitgeist/activity.sqlite.
[18:45] <p1l0t> /home/p1l0t/.local doesn't even exist
[18:45] <g2000> BottomNotch: I have never used any touchscreen device with Ubuntu, but are you sure that there is no hardware error?
[18:45] <kadiro> MonkeyDust: thk's, i just want the lighter one
[18:46] <kadiro> thk's urist_
[18:46] <urist_> lxde is the lightest one of the 2. but i think there is something even lighter
[18:46] <Ramzi> is there a way to use the contents of a file as input to apt-get without writing a loop? I was hop there was a command that would output the contents of a file in a way that it could be piped into apt-get.
[18:46] <BottomNotch> g200, it works fine in windows 8.1 Pro
[18:46] <BottomNotch> *g2000
[18:46] <urist_> whatever arch comes with usually
[18:46] <kadiro> p1l0t: what you means about .local is not exist?
[18:46] <mcphail> p1l0t: you do know that /home/p1lot/.local/ is a hidden directory?
[18:47] <kadiro> urist_: exist others DE lighter than both?
[18:47] <EriC^^> Ramzi: xargs
[18:47] <p1l0t> kadiro: mcphail: I tried using sudo ls -a doesn't appear in there
[18:47] <kadiro> p1l0t: try to add it
[18:48] <mcphail> p1l0t: fair enough. It is a directory that tends to get added quickly as a lot of programs write to it
[18:48] <BottomNotch> maybe I should downgrade to ubuntu 12.04, I here the touchscreen on my laptop works out of box on 12.04
[18:49] <urist_> kadiro: I've never used it. but I believe the DE arch uses is lighter but I think it's also a bit bare bones. i think it's called openbox
[18:49] <g2000> BottomNotch: I'd recommend trying that out on a live cd / thumbdrive first.
[18:50] <kadiro> oh yes thk's urist_ i heared that from someone tell me that too
[18:50] <g2000> BottomNotch: If it is working on 12.04, there are good chances to get it running on the latest Ubuntu version, too.
[18:51] <BottomNotch> g200, good idea, I don't really feel like it right now though.  I would also much rather figure out how to get it working on 14.04
[18:51] <Rave1> urist_,   openbox is a window manager  in fact it is the window manager used by LXDE'
[18:51] <pbx> BottomNotch, mine "just worked" with a standard 14.04 install so i'm afraid i'm no use to you
[18:51] <BottomNotch> pbx, it's ok
[18:52] <g2000> BottomNotch: But I doubt I can really help you because I never used any touchscreen device with Ubuntu /:
[18:52] <BottomNotch> g2000, thanks anyways
[18:52] <kadiro> Rave1: so that means there is no DE lighter than both xfce and lxde?
[18:52] <Rave1> urist_,   and you could have any DE or window manager you wish on most distros
[18:53] <urist_> Rave1: oh thank you for clarifying this. i've never actually used it before
[18:53] <Rave1> kadiro,   I bet google knows
[18:53] <TJ-> BottomNotch: best advice is 'read the logs' - for the basic "input" device(s) see "/var/log/kern.log". For the Xserver GUI input device detection/configuration, see "/var/log/Xorg.0.log".
[18:53] <kadiro> Rave1: thk's anyway
[18:54] <BottomNotch> TJ-, i'll take a look
[18:54] <wafflejock> kadiro, I believe lxqt is a contender on the lightest desktop front but not sure how the tiling window managers compare, something like Awesome TWM might be lighter
[18:54] <kadiro> Rave1: google confuse me some users said that this DE is lighter than other and other said something else so google give me nothing
[18:55] <wafflejock> kadiro, you need to look for benchmarks
[18:55] <MeatPopsicle> I thought MATE was the lightest?
[18:55] <wafflejock> kadiro, not opinions :)
[18:55] <kadiro> oh cool thk's wafflej0ck_
[18:55] <TJ-> BottomNotch: if the device is 'sort-of' working with the X server then the latter might reveal something. As always, use the things you find that are relevant as keys to further web searches for documentation.
[18:55] <Ramzi> Eric^^: Muchas Gracias!!!
[18:55] <EriC^^> Ramzi: no problem
[18:55] <kadiro> i tried it ( lxqt ) but still uncomplet ( under develloping i think )
[18:56] <wafflejock> kadiro, yeah believe it's pretty new
[18:56] <BottomNotch> TJ-, what do you mean by X server?
[18:56] <BottomNotch> I'm a bit of a newb :P
[18:56] <kadiro> thk's again wafflej0ck_
[18:56] <wafflejock> kadiro, np
[18:56] <TJ-> BottomNotch: The X server is what drives the GUI
[18:57] <BottomNotch> ok
[18:57] <kadiro> there are many good helper in this channel i'm happy for that
[18:58] <x4w3> lordievader: new wifi card from amazon arrived, but it's incompatible too with ubuntu : 148f:3070 ubuntu 14
[18:59] <kadiro> sorry is wafflejock and not wafflej0ck_ ( tab do that automatically ) sorry for that
[18:59] <wafflejock> kadiro, yup definitely one of the big pluses with ubuntu is lots of users and some very helpful people who hang around these parts, no worries on the nick sure that other one is just an idle account of mine that didn't get signed out
[18:59] <Nectar> Hi. What's that application called which shows your system specs when you start terminal? Thans.
[19:00] <kadiro> thk's you very much Mr wafflejock
[19:00] <wafflejock> Nectar, believe it's in the motd (message of the day)
[19:00] <xangua> x4w3: if it's incompatible with any future release also, consider investigate next time the hardware is linux compatible
[19:01] <BottomNotch> TJ-, I don't see anything that looks helpfull in the X server log and I'd rather not have touchscreen than weed through the kernal log
[19:02] <Nectar> Found it. Its called screenfetch.
[19:02] <kadiro> BottomNotch: sorry i'm not seeing your problem before, how i can help you?
[19:03] <mersa> I want to remove this                         unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     21289    3277/wineserver                                tried removing wine package but it's- still there
[19:03] <BottomNotch> kadiro, do you know how to get a serial toucscreen to work on ubuntu 14.04
[19:03] <BottomNotch> *touchscreen
[19:03] <x4w3> lordievader and xangua i run it with sudo modprobe rt2800usb :P
[19:03] <x4w3> and run now!
[19:04] <OerHeks> mersa, reboot. or next time: stop the service first, before removal.
[19:05] <kadiro> sorry BottomNotch never heard that , but i think you have to look in /dev/ttyS0 .. ttyS1 .. ttyS2 ...
[19:05] <wafflejock> Nectar, ah didn't know what you were asking there I guess that's an interesting one... the motd lets you run some commands to show system stats or whatever when someone logs in to a terminal
[19:05] <mersa> OerHeks: so you mean removing the wine program will stop this service
[19:05] <BottomNotch> kadiro, I have allready found it in ttyS4
[19:05] <OerHeks> mersa, no, linux keeps it running in memory.
[19:05] <mersa> OerHeks: I mean after rebooting
[19:05] <mersa> my fear is it won't go away and I need to remove something else
[19:06] <JustAPerson> Anyone have experience using a Wiimote with ubuntu? I found a random USB bluetooth receiver, but I can't pair with my wiimote. It briefly flashes a screen saying "enter this pin xxxxxx" but quickly says pairing failed
[19:06] <OerHeks> mersa, no, if ther server is running on wine, and you removed it, it will not return
[19:06] <OerHeks> ther-that
[19:06] <BottomNotch> I could buy a capacitive multitouch layer that uses USB
[19:06] <mersa> OerHeks: besides wine package, is there any other package related? like wine-server, I don't know..
[19:06] <BottomNotch> this screen right now is only single point resistive
[19:07] <OerHeks> mersa, i do not support wine servers
[19:07] <OerHeks> crazy
[19:07] <mersa> OerHeks: you don't know
[19:08] <OerHeks> !wine
[19:08] <mersa> is there a way to find all packages installed with a name I provide?
[19:08] <kadiro> look here BottomNotch
[19:08] <kadiro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452159/ubuntu-14-04-multi-touch-screen-support
[19:09] <kadiro> may be this will help too: https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/799669-how-to-configure-a-touchscreen-on-linux/
[19:10] <urist_> !subversion
[19:10] <mersa> is there a way to find all packages installed with a name I provide?
[19:10] <kadiro> i hop i'm in right idea
[19:11] <kadiro> ubottu is a bot?
[19:11] <kadiro> loll
[19:11] <kadiro> fantastic
[19:12] <kadiro> !code kadiro
[19:12] <BottomNotch> kadiro, it's not a matter of converting my touch gestures into mouse movement
[19:12] <BottomNotch> it's not working at all
[19:12] <wafflejock> merpnderp, https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
[19:12] <BottomNotch> at least not in a usable way
[19:13] <BottomNotch> and I know for a fact that the screen in single point, no software can fix that
[19:13] <kadiro> BottomNotch: all serial ports worked?
[19:13] <squinty> mersa:  might want to try   aptitude search <package_name> | grep 'i '  in a terminal.  might have to install aptitude
[19:13] <wafflejock> mersa, ^^
[19:13] <wafflejock> merpnderp, sorry wrong nick bad autocomplete
[19:15] <kadiro> !vdr
[19:15] <BottomNotch> kadiro, no tty S0 through S3 don't, I found it at S$
[19:15] <BottomNotch> I mean S4
[19:15] <kadiro> ah i see
[19:16] <BottomNotch> The issue seems to be finding the correct driver
[19:16] <mersa> squinty: wafflejock found a way                 dpkg --get-selections
[19:17] <BottomNotch> if i attach with mtouch atleast somthing on the screen happens
[19:17] <squinty> mersa:  if you prefer gui, then synaptic will fit the bill too
[19:17] <wafflejock> mersa, yeah that dpkg-query is nice too just found that and tried it out
[19:17] <BottomNotch> but it looks like I'm touching everything on the scren
[19:17] <BottomNotch> screen
[19:17] <BottomNotch> and calibration doesn't fix it
[19:17] <kadiro> yes I guess too, because you saying that in 12.04 work fine or may be a cproblem in config file some where
[19:18] <BottomNotch> kadiro, maybe, also I don't know for sure if it works in 12.04, it's just what I've heard
[19:18] <kadiro> BottomNotch: may be a problem is hardware and not software at all
[19:18] <BottomNotch> kadiro, I don't think so, it works fine in windows
[19:18] <Guest4719> is anyone here familiar with PHP? I have a simple mail script that I could use help with
[19:18] <Bashing-om> mersa: How about ' dpkg -L <package_name> ' to see the full list of files a package installs .
[19:18] <kadiro> BottomNotch: even now?
[19:19] <BottomNotch> and others seem to have similliar issues
[19:19] <BottomNotch> kadiro, well i'm not 100% sure
[19:19] <BottomNotch> let me check, brb
[19:19] <kadiro> hmm ok
[19:20]  * OerHeks wonders if a wineserver package ends up in the packagelist
[19:22] <BottomNotch> touch still works on windows
[19:22] <kadiro> my english is very bad please let me know if i do a mistakes thk's you
[19:23] <kadiro> cool, so you have right something about drivers or config file
[19:23] <BottomNotch> lol, your English is better than many you live in th US
[19:23] <LonelyDanbo> remind me how to put this Xubuntu installer .iso on USB.
[19:24] <xangua> !usb | LonelyDanbo
[19:24] <kadiro> loll hmm i'm look like this now >.<
[19:24] <LonelyDanbo> Thanks.
[19:24] <bazbing81> is it possible to monitor my lan and see what people are googling/ what sites they are visiting? Is it legal to do so?
[19:24] <wafflejock> bazbing80, legal depends on where you are and local laws etc.
[19:24] <BottomNotch> kadiro, that's what it seems like
[19:24] <al2o3-cr> !ettercap | bazbing81
[19:25] <myself> To whom would I direct a request, to put md5sums on the download pages?
[19:25] <kadiro> bazbing80: i see that in wifislax but possible in ubuntu i'm sure
[19:25] <kadiro> BottomNotch: where is a config file for your touchscreen?
[19:25] <al2o3-cr> bazbing81: ettercap and urlsnarf should do it
[19:26] <BottomNotch> kadiro, I have no idea
[19:26] <myself> I just fetched ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso and I'd like to verify the sums before burning it. It's 1B305D585B1918F297164ADD46784116 if anyone has it handy to compare with.
[19:26] <kadiro> BottomNotch: give some minutes i will check that out
[19:26] <DJones> md5 | myself
[19:26] <al2o3-cr> myself: md5sum ubuntu.iso
[19:27] <wafflejock> bazbing80, I am not a lawyer, (my brother is but doesn't qualify me at all) I would talk to a lawyer regarding the legality you may need to notify the people using the network or may just not be allowed to do it depending on where you are
[19:27] <al2o3-cr> oh nvm
[19:27] <bazbing81> al2o3-cr: thanks, will urlsnarf work if Ubuntu is running in a vm?
[19:27] <DJones> !md5sum | muh2000
[19:27] <al2o3-cr> bazbing81: sure
[19:27] <jmgilmeza> @LeonelyDanbo I use to create a booteable USB whit unetbootin. It works for any ISO Linux.
[19:28] <al2o3-cr> fastest way to burn an iso is: sudo -i; cat ubuntu.iso > /dev/sdX && sync
[19:29] <CupricReki> I'm trying to run a shell script that only executes a command of a specifially named docker container is running. What would that look like?
[19:29] <kadiro> BottomNotch: are you there?
[19:29] <myself> ubottu: I've got the image and my sum, but the download page from which I _fetched_ the image doesn't list a sum that I can compare to. Your comment "for which an MD5 checksum is provided" assumes the sum is provided, which Ubuntu's download page doesn't appear to do...
[19:29] <kadiro> BottomNotch: I think the config is located here /etc/ts.conf
[19:30] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone;  i have an old pc i'd like to put a 2.5" SATA hard drive in.  its ATX form factor.  there is an available 3.5" and 5.25" slots.  which is the ideal adapter to get ?  one for 2.5" or one for 3.5"?
[19:30] <myself> well nevermind.
[19:30] <BottomNotch> kadiro, ok I'll look there
[19:30] <al2o3-cr> myself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[19:31] <xangua> arooni-mobile: /join #hardware
[19:31] <al2o3-cr> so from the website it's 1b305d585b1918f297164add46784116
[19:31] <BottomNotch> kadiro, there is np /etc/ts.conf
[19:31] <BottomNotch> *no
[19:32] <al2o3-cr> myself: which match yours
[19:32] <myself> al2o3-cr: sweet, thank you :) that's exactly what I couldn't find.
[19:32] <JustAPerson> Anyone familiar with xinput devices? Trying to use a wiimote, but dolphin-emu doesn't show a "XInput/0/gamepad" device :(
[19:33] <myself> It would be stupendous if that was linked from the download page, but naah.
[19:33] <JayBau> Hi guys, earlier daftykins helped me figure out testing driver for my secondary graphic card it didn't worked, so I decided to disable it and just use my main graphic card. How can install the correct graphic card driver?
[19:33] <myself> Oh. I could've just googled the hash. Heh.
[19:33] <kadiro> try reconfigure it something like: sudo dpkg-reconfigure yourapp
[19:34] <DJones> myself: Its listed in the link the bot sent you
[19:35] <bazbing81> al2o3-cr: I run sudo urlsnarf -i eth0
[19:35] <bazbing81> urlsnarf: listening on eth0 [tcp port 80 or port 8080 or port 3128]
[19:35] <DJones> myself: Pretty much the first link on the page
[19:35] <al2o3-cr> bazbing81: this is offtopic in here sorry :(
[19:35] <bazbing81> al2o3-cr: no worries can you redirect me?
[19:35] <al2o3-cr> bazbing81: try #kali-linux
[19:36] <bazbing81> okay
[19:36] <bazbing81> thanks
[19:36] <al2o3-cr> np
[19:36] <Bashing-om> JayBau: As you are now running on the Intel chip set. What Intel provides us is the best there is . Not a thing to be done - if the driver is loaded .
[19:36] <kadiro> so BottomNotch
[19:37] <JayBau> yes, problem is I can't change the brightness :(
[19:37] <JayBau> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/12002309/
[19:37] <kadiro> BottomNotch: you still here?
[19:37] <BottomNotch> I couldn't find a config file for my touchscreen
[19:38] <kadiro> BottomNotch: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure touchscreen
[19:38] <JayBau> Bashing-om: can I install an intel driver for this?
[19:39] <wileee> JayBau, If the OS is fine, anything outside the ubuntu repos is not supported here, you have what is needed.
[19:39] <kadiro> some man talking to itself XD
[19:39] <BottomNotch> dpkg-query: package 'touchscreen' is not installed and no information is available
[19:39] <BottomNotch> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[19:39] <BottomNotch> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[19:39] <BottomNotch> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: touchscreen is not installed
[19:39] <BottomNotch> username@TheBrick:~$ sudo apt-get install touchscreen
[19:39] <BottomNotch> Reading package lists... Done
[19:39] <JayBau> wileee: I understand that, it just happen that the brightness need to be adjusted
[19:40] <wileee> JayBau, We can address that, was this the issue to begin with?
[19:40] <JayBau> wileee: so I really need to have a work around to make it brighter
[19:40] <JayBau> wileee: there's no way to adjust the brightness
[19:40] <OneMatt> The what...my lubuntu computer's trash folder is channeling old, deleted files from my main desktop...
[19:40] <kadiro> oh is not installed?? what about " locate touchscreen " if it is in kernel drivers
[19:41] <Bashing-om> JayBau: I am not ecpreienced with laptops, but Intel is the weaker graphics set, which is why for heavy duty stuff there is the Nvidia chip set. What Intel provides is the Best there is for what it is . As to adjusting screen brightenn, I have seen some config files around, Not sure they will apply in your use case .
[19:41] <wileee> JayBau, Your original helper is great help, as when you worked with them details are crucial
[19:42] <BottomNotch> give me a moment, I'll past the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:42] <kadiro> ok
[19:42] <OerHeks> JayBau, maybe this article is any help http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/ ( still valid )
[19:42] <wileee> Bashing-om, looks like your set, I try not to interrupt, heh, carry on.
[19:43] <kadiro> BottomNotch: the content of mine have:
[19:43] <MoonBurst> There seem to be a lot of different Linux OS variations, how would I know which one is the right one for me?
[19:43] <kadiro> module_raw input
[19:43] <kadiro> module pthres pmin=1
[19:43] <wileee> MoonBurst, BY trying them
[19:43] <kadiro> module variance delta=30
[19:43] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: what does `cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness` say?
[19:43] <JayBau> OerHeks: tried that already, been on different forums too but none of them worked :(
[19:43] <kadiro> module dejitter delta=100
[19:43] <kadiro> module linear
[19:43] <kadiro> that's all
[19:43] <OerHeks> JayBau, did you logout/login again after that?
[19:43] <MoonBurst> That's one way I suppose.
[19:43] <BottomNotch> I have this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12002352/
[19:44] <wileee> MoonBurst, They are all more alike than different, hardly different in my opinion. Ease of use might be a goal is all.
[19:44] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: 976
[19:44] <JayBau> OerHeks: yes
[19:44] <MoonBurst> I'm thinking of switching to a Linux base after seeing the W10 user agreement. A shame too, for the longest time I was looking forward to W10 too.
[19:44] <wafflejock> MoonBurst, you can check reviews or just try them out, using virtual box is an easy way to check out different distros or desktop environments for yourself but good to keep in mind they will run slower in there and you may have some issues a regular install wouldn't have
[19:45] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: try: echo 800 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[19:45] <kadiro> BottomNotch: you have touchscreen in kernel i think you have to create a ts.conf and try to see what happen ( but you will to configure it your self if worked with some problem )
[19:45] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: done, should I reboot?
[19:46] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: no, it should take effect straight away, no?
[19:46] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: did it not dim?
[19:46] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: nothing happened, I am expecting to dim
[19:46] <kadiro> BottomNotch: this is my ts.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12002364/
[19:46] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: try a lower number say 650?
[19:46] <wafflejock> MoonBurst, this doesn't cover all the desktop environments you could possibly get (there are a lot wikipedia has lists) but some of the most common are shown here http://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/
[19:47] <p1l0t> kadiro: Amoz: Wow there was a lot more than just zeitgeist missing from .local I guess.. after a reboot now everything including zeitgeist works again. I did try making blank sqlite file and it attempted to rebuild but then the browser wouldn't start and was throwing no error at all so I gave in and rebooted. Everything is fine now though thanks for your help.
[19:47] <MoonBurst> Ahh, thanks. I'll actually check that now.
[19:47] <kadiro> p1l0t: you welcome
[19:48] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: tried 100, no change or flicker
[19:48] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: this is intel graphics card, yeah?
[19:49] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: yes
[19:49] <BottomNotch> kadiro, how to I creat a new ts.conf?
[19:49] <BottomNotch> *create
[19:49] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: what is changing is the brightness indicator, but not the brightness itself, strange
[19:50] <kadiro> BottomNotch: sudo gedit /etc/ts.conf and then past the content of my link with some modifications and then save it
[19:50] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: hitting bright up and bright down shows the indicator, although it's not changing
[19:50] <kadiro> cahnge gedit with the editor you have
[19:50] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: what does cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness say then?
[19:50] <JayBau> al
[19:50] <JayBau> oops
[19:50] <BottomNotch> kadiro, thank you
[19:51] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: cat: /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness: No such file or directory
[19:51] <kadiro> BottomNotch: you welcome, but i have a question, is your device shown in the comment in a link i paste it?
[19:51] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: what have you got in /sys/class/backlight?
[19:52] <BottomNotch> no
[19:52] <kadiro> what's yours BottomNotch ?
[19:52] <BottomNotch> idk, I know it's made by wacom though
[19:53] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/ and contents are
[19:53] <kadiro> BottomNotch: from terminall install it please by: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[19:53] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: actual_brightness  bl_power  brightness  device  max_brightness  power  subsystem  type  uevent
[19:54] <kadiro> you have to reboot to see ( my guess )
[19:55] <BottomNotch> ugh, dependencies
[19:55] <kadiro> BottomNotch: if not worked, this one should be but follow it exactely: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053258&p=12553078#post12553078
[19:55] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: you definently using the intel card?
[19:55] <MoonBurst> Actually, I think I've been overthinking the idea of which linux to get.
[19:56] <JayBau> yes
[19:56] <BottomNotch> I'll go to that forum post, there are several dependencies
[19:56] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: idk whats wrong then that should of dimmed the brightness
[19:56] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: yes, and you can check here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12002426/
[19:56] <kadiro> ok BottomNotch nice choose
[19:57] <wileee> MoonBurst, You might dualboot or use a vm as suggested, depending on your needs and skill level a switch to linux only has a learning curve.
[19:57] <MoonBurst> Dualboot for sure. I did try a linux before a few years back, but I had quite a bit of trouble getting it to work.
[19:57] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: Try a few LiveCDs out, pick one you like.
[19:58] <MoonBurst> Simply because it wasn't as user friendly as other big name OSs.
[19:58] <MoonBurst> But I suppose that's sort of the point
[19:58] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: I will just reinstall this one, maybe something would work if I installed the OS having the secondary card disabled :)
[19:58] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: thanks
[19:58] <p1l0t> MoonBurst: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised how far it's come.
[19:59] <BottomNotch> kadiro, ok, i'm on the hunt for dependencies, one of the downloads from the forum post gives me a 404 page
[19:59] <al2o3-cr> ok, np
[19:59] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: Well, yes and no -- desktop environments these days are every bit as friendly as Windows or OS X; and if you ever want full control, pop open a terminal, and get typing. ;)
[19:59] <wileee> MoonBurst, I think ubuntu is a great start, very user friendly in several ways including a large support base.
[19:59] <BotchlaB> Best of both worlds.
[20:00] <MoonBurst> a large support base is a strong point for any new task I'd think.
[20:00] <kadiro> BottomNotch: choose one of this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxwacom/files/xf86-input-wacom/
[20:00] <BottomNotch> ok
[20:00] <kadiro> and go back to the link i shared before
[20:00] <MoonBurst> I'm just hoping my programs are all compatable. I've heard some things just don't like Linux.
[20:00] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: Definitely. I'd say all of the major distros (the first 20 or so on DistroWatch) have very active support communities.
[20:00] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: These include Ubuntu, Debian, Linux Mint, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Arch Linux, etc.
[20:01] <bittin> ken göras för varje request?
[20:01] <bittin> 21:59 <@chloe> typ om någon länkar här i irc: hej.se/kuk
[20:01] <bittin> 21:59 <@chloe> ska /kuk också kolla om man är tor?
[20:01] <bittin> 22:00 <@chloe> eller bara index?
[20:01] <bittin> 22:00 < kittyj> det var det som fick mig att tänka om.
[20:01] <bittin> 22:00 < kittyj> för det är ju dumt att bara ha det på index.
[20:01] <persa_> is it safe to remove this package?    xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[20:01] <t4nkd> Hey ubuntu, this is probably something dumb that I don't understand about packages, but, I found a package I really want to use, here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/p7zip-rar -- and I've build a ubuntu:trusty docker container (which has this sources.list - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6d433829c8b24e2c4dea) but I still can't seem to find or install p7zip-rar, what am I missing?
[20:01] <MoonBurst> The ones I've heard of are Ubuntu, Mint, and Wine. Though I heard Ubuntu is a good base for getting your feet wet with Linux. Or something like that.
[20:02] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: "Wine" isn't a distro in and of itself, it's a layer of sorts that allows you to run Windows applications, to a degree, within GNU/Linux distributions.
[20:03] <persa_> what can I remove frmo here        http://pastebin.com/3jnjTef6
[20:03] <kadiro> t4nkd: this command: apt-cache search 7z gives you some help?
[20:04] <t4nkd> No, thing is, the package is in multiverse because it uses non-free stuff
[20:04] <OerHeks> t4nkd, it is part of universe,make sure you have that enabled
[20:04] <MoonBurst> Just for support and ease of use, I'm going to go with a dualboot of ubuntu. Thanks for the help and suggestions. I think I can install it easy enough, if I can't... then I probably shouldn't be messing with Linux anyway.
[20:04] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: It is very easy to install, and if you run into issues, this channel is always around anyway. ;) Good luck!
[20:04] <wileee> MoonBurst, YOu will be fine, stop in if you need any help.
[20:05] <t4nkd> Ah, okay, I need to add multiverse
[20:05] <kadiro> t4nkd: like OerHeks said
[20:05] <OerHeks> t4nkd, oh multiverse indeed.. i was looking @ p7zip-full
[20:05] <Bashing-om> t4nkd: Why ? The package is avaialable in the repositiry - Version: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4 - .
[20:05] <t4nkd> No worries
[20:05] <OerHeks> !info p7zip-rar
[20:05] <MoonBurst> I can't imagine it being much trouble, I mean... I did it before. I'll get out of the way for now though.
[20:05] <Spider> how do i backtrace a netstat using pcat in ubuntu?
[20:05] <kadiro> !info p7zip-full
[20:06] <OerHeks> kadiro, i think it is because rar is non-free
[20:06] <t4nkd> ^ truth
[20:06] <kadiro> yes OerHeks true
[20:07] <clynamen> hello, I am installing a deb with dpkg -i, but it says that there are unmet dependencies
[20:08] <clynamen> however the listed packages are actually installed, with the right version
[20:08] <kadiro> clynamen: why not from apt-get ?
[20:08] <wileee> MoonBurst, Be sure to resize the windows from the windows partition manager leaving the unallocated for ubuntu, and restart windows to make sure it's good. You can do it with the install, however it is nice to see the windows resized and running before installing linux.
[20:08] <Spider> use -f
[20:08] <clynamen> kadiro: it is a package I built
[20:08] <kadiro> oh i see
[20:08] <clynamen> kadiro: actually, I put it on a repo and apt-get gives the same problem
[20:08] <kadiro> like Spider said force it with -f
[20:08] <OerHeks> clynamen, does that error say: apt-get install -f # to correct these problems?
[20:09] <MoonBurst> I only really need the OS on the drive, since I have a slave drive for all the heavy data
[20:09] <clynamen> no, it doesn't. I tried that and it didn't change anything
[20:09] <Jeff__> can someone help take a look at my upstart script - https://bpaste.net/show/a5bcb536087b
[20:09] <t4nkd> thanks again :D
[20:10] <clynamen> derFlo: Spider dpkg has not -f options
[20:10] <kadiro> you welcome t4nkd ( you gone but good to said that ) O_o
[20:10] <OerHeks> clynamen, well, own package, own repo, we cannot do much about that.
[20:10] <Spider> apt-get does
[20:10] <Spider> sorry for the confusion
[20:11] <roy2098> Hi all, maybe someone's written a current how-to regarding dual-booting windows 10 and ubuntu on uefi bios (actually bios does autodetect but the windows install is uefi). I've upgraded to Windows 10, shrunk the win partition to 150 gb and installed Ubunto 15 beside it. but I guess the ubuntu install isn't up to all of Microsoft's tricks yet ... wh
[20:11] <roy2098> at to do?
[20:11] <kadiro> --force
[20:11] <clynamen> I know, but maybe someone knows how apt-get and dpkg work, and can have some idea on why it fail
[20:11] <Spider> apt-get -f install
[20:11] <al2o3-cr> clynamen: it's failing due to unmet dependencies
[20:11] <roy2098> i'd prefer to put win 10 in its place as a virtualbox guest but I had no luck with p2v
[20:12] <clynamen> al2o3-cr: they are met, actually
[20:12] <Spider> -f = --fix-broken
[20:12] <OerHeks> clynamen, for a start: use paste.ubuntu.com for the error log
[20:12] <al2o3-cr> well, we're sort of guessing then
[20:12] <BottomNotch> kadiro, at step 2 I get cp: cannot stat ‘3.7/wacom.ko’: No such file or directory
[20:12] <Spider> you need to add the sources manually then.
[20:13] <squinty> !uefi | roy2098
[20:13] <Jeff__> I wrote an upstart script, but not sure it's right bc upstart has 'exec' stanza, and bash has 'exec' command.  I'm trying to use both, in different cases - https://bpaste.net/show/a5bcb536087b
[20:13] <Spider> add sources to sources.list
[20:14] <kadiro> BottomNotch: replace the '3.8.0-9-generic' part with the one shown with # uname -r
[20:14] <roy2098> ubotto: thanks, i think this is my problem
[20:14] <BottomNotch> kadiro, I did, maybe a typo?
[20:15] <clynamen> OerHeks: I noticed that actualy dpkg -i installed the package, even if it gave an error
[20:15] <clynamen> (the unmet dependencies error)
[20:15] <BottomNotch> kadiro, nope not a typo
[20:15] <kadiro> BottomNotch: check inside input-wacom
[20:16] <kadiro> because a different archives from source link and one i give to you
[20:16] <Spider> did you --ignore-depends?
[20:17] <BottomNotch> kadiro, what am I looking for?
[20:17] <clynamen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12002575/
[20:17] <NGC3982> Hi. I have a new computer with Ubuntu installed on it. I simply connected my old Ubuntu harddrive to it, to be used as an external drive. Should i remove Grub or something like that on the old hard drive?
[20:17] <clynamen> Spider: no, I didn't. just plain dpkg -i
[20:17]  * squinty quips "kinda hard to --ignore-depends after reaching a certain age"
[20:17] <omgitsmit> NGC3982: it would prevent you from accidently booting off of it, but otherwise harmless
[20:18] <NGC3982> omgitsmit: I see. How can i remove it? Simply delete everything but /home/ on the old drive?
[20:18] <Spider> dpkg -i --ignore-depends
[20:18] <BottomNotch> oh, kadiro, you want me to find install instructions right?
[20:18] <NGC3982>  /home/ contains the only data i'm interested in.
[20:18] <NGC3982> That said.
[20:18] <omgitsmit> NGC3982: i usually just remove the boot flag from the partition
[20:18] <wileee> NGC3982, long as it is not read first, or your grub breaks you should be fine
[20:18] <omgitsmit> NGC3982: using gparted or some other util
[20:18] <NGC3982> omgitsmit: Oh. Allright.
[20:19] <wileee> omgitsmit, linux does not need a boot flag
[20:19] <omgitsmit> wileee: i dual boot, maybe thats why?
[20:19] <kadiro> BottomNotch: yes but under archive extracted you will to do: ./configure and make and finally make install
[20:19] <kadiro> make install with root
[20:19] <wileee> omgitsmit, nope, but it is no biggie.
[20:20] <NGC3982> In the Ubuntu disk settings, i can mark it "[X] Bootable". Should de-marking that one solve my issue?
[20:20] <kadiro> so i think you will to jump the 2 instruction
[20:20] <omgitsmit> NGC3982: apparaently it wont
[20:20] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | BottomNotch a suggestion...
[20:21] <wileee> omgitsmit, If you have two linux OS, it is which has the grub control, it is the first kernel in grub having the control, unless modified.
[20:21] <kadiro> just after make install ( reboot to see ) BottomNotch
[20:21] <NGC3982> I tried it, but i have not restarted yet. Can i do anything else?
[20:21] <omgitsmit> wileee: yes, that's ovbious, but we're talking about an old grub installation on an old external drive
[20:22] <NGC3982> That i want to remove
[20:22] <NGC3982> Simply not use
[20:22] <NGC3982> The actual files on the hard drives is the interesting thing.
[20:22] <NGC3982> Also, i guess i could cleanse everything but /home/ on it
[20:22] <BottomNotch> rebooting now
[20:23]  * NGC3982 tries to reboot.
[20:23] <kadiro> good
[20:24] <wileee> omgitsmit, No boot flag has ever been needed is all.
[20:25] <kadiro> brb
[20:25] <wileee> it is the mbr is all
[20:25] <omgitsmit> yeah thats what i thought
[20:26] <BottomNotch> ok  kadiro, rebooted and pen and touch is not working
[20:26] <io> io
[20:26] <BottomNotch> oh, forgot about xf86
[20:27] <Guest61384> io
[20:27] <Traumatizer> Has anyone installed tropico 5 on ubuntu?
[20:27] <Guest61384> chi cè
[20:28] <wileee> Guest61384, English?
[20:28] <Guest61384> no
[20:28] <wileee> Guest61384, Than you will have to find a channel that is your native language.
[20:28] <Omilun> hi
[20:28] <Guest61384> poco
[20:28] <Omilun> i hane an error : The keybinding you chose for "Pull Down Terminal" is invalid. Please choose another.
[20:29] <Jeff__> I ran this manually, and it worked - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning/blob/master/build/web/web_js
[20:29] <Jeff__> but, I'm trying to convert that to an upstart script https://bpaste.net/show/a5bcb536087b
[20:29] <Pici> !it | Guest61384
[20:29] <tgm4883> !it | Guest61384
[20:29] <persa_> Guest61384: WHAT YOUR PROBLEM ESEEE
[20:29] <Jeff__> something is off on my upstart script - when i edit a javascript, the upstart script doesn't compile the js
[20:29] <Omilun> how can i fix that?
[20:29] <Guest61384> ok thanks
[20:30] <wileee> Omilun, This the gnome 3 shell addon?
[20:30] <Omilun> wileee: ammm a have gnome 2
[20:31] <wileee> Omilun, Ah, what ubuntu release?
[20:31] <OerHeks> Traumatizer, i think tropico 5 is more a #ubuntu-steam issue
[20:31] <Omilun> wileee: it has a shell with out main menu
[20:31] <Omilun> wileee: ubuntu 15.04
[20:31] <wileee> Omilun, You don't have gnome 2
[20:31] <Traumatizer> OerHeks, I got a copy from my brother. Which might be why its not working though? (A)
[20:31] <Omilun> wileee: i have mate
[20:31] <wileee> is not supported if you do
[20:32] <wileee> Omilun, Cool, details are your best friend here.
[20:32] <OerHeks> mate is a gnome2 look on gnome3
[20:32] <Omilun> wileee: ammm
[20:33] <Omilun> wileee: how can i hide this shell and tilda 0 config?
[20:34] <wileee> Omilun, Not sure. I've only looked at the ubuntu mate release, seems nice.
[20:35] <Omilun> wileee: ammm ok how can i fix that?
[20:35] <wileee> Omilun, I would wait for better help. ;)
[20:36] <Omilun> wileee: ok thx
[20:37] <Leverquin_> have one question does umbuntu 14.04 has all programs when it is installed like mint? like firefox?gimp dunno something for music/video?
[20:37] <badbodh> Omilun, what have you chosen as keybinding ? open mate control center > keyboard settings. make sure that combo isn't assigned to smething else.
[20:38] <badbodh> Leverquin_, linuxmint uses ubuntu 14.04 repo so yes, all apps will be present. however mint specific apps like minst-sources, mintupdate etc won't be available here.
[20:39] <mcphail> Leverquin_: there are tens of thousands of packages in the Ubuntu repositories. No, they are not all installed by default
[20:40] <kadiro> I'm back
[20:41]  * badbodh slaps kadiro with anorexic trout
[20:41]  * kadiro slaps badbodh 
[20:42] <lickalott> gents, I'm have a h@ll of a time trying to get my phone to show up AND STAY on my puter.  I've install gMTP as well as libmtp-common -dev and -runtime.  It pops up, I can see it, then it goes away.
[20:42] <lickalott> am I missing something?
[20:42] <lickalott> btw: it's an android
[20:43] <kadiro> so BottomNotch ??
[20:43] <BottomNotch>   didn't work :'(
[20:44] <kadiro> with the three commands too?
[20:44] <BottomNotch> correct
[20:44] <badbodh> lickalott, if i recall just setting your usb to mtp shouldbe enough. you don't need any additional junk for it.
[20:44] <lickalott> it just shows up as "installer" mode then
[20:44] <badbodh> usb-storage/mtp/camera all modes work natively. even media players grab them
[20:45] <lickalott> well...before I say that.  How do you mean "setting your usb to mtp"?
[20:45] <Spider> lickalott have you tried a different usb cable?
[20:45] <lickalott> yes sir
[20:45] <wafflejock> Leverquin_, there are default apps for all the common tasks in any version of ubuntu typically firefox some image viewer (typically not gimp) some video viewer and libreoffice is pretty standard for ubuntu desktop distros
[20:45] <kadiro> damn
[20:46] <BottomNotch_> I tried inputattach --mtouch /dev/ttyS4 again
[20:46] <badbodh> in your notification an item regarding your usb-cable comes up,tap on that, all modes are shown, chose one (other than charge only) and it'll come up on nautilus
[20:46] <BottomNotch_> same results as before
[20:46] <BottomNotch_> and left click doesn't work now -_-
[20:47] <kadiro> what's that gives you BottomNotch
[20:47] <Spider> lickalott did you check your connection with lsusb?
[20:47] <lickalott> Spider, no  I will do that now
[20:47] <squinty> Leverquin_,   http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features   (sent this before but not sure if it was actually sent due to problems here)  that page should give you a good overview
[20:47] <BottomNotch____> I need to reboot to get rightclick working again
[20:47] <BottomNotch____> brb
[20:48] <kadiro> ok
[20:48] <lickalott> Spider, shows up as device 005
[20:48] <badbodh> kadiro, he is slipping. underscores are getting longer and longer.
[20:49] <Spider> lickalott do you know the permissions of that device?
[20:49] <BottomNotch> back
[20:49] <kadiro> loll badbodh
[20:50] <kadiro> BottomNotch: I think you use this and rebooted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[20:50] <kadiro> right?
[20:50] <BottomNotch> no
[20:51] <BottomNotch> I used this:
[20:51] <BottomNotch> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touchscreen
[20:51] <NGC3982> Hi, the boot thing worked. Although, i do not understand how to mount my external hard drive to /home/
[20:51] <NGC3982> It seems like i have created a faulty symlink
[20:52] <Nairwolf> Hi, I would like to add writing rights in a repertory. How I am supposed to do ? Like that ? dr-x------ 1 odroid odroid    0 Dec  4  2014 Vid?os
[20:53] <badbodh> NGC3982, mkdir ~/name-of-mount-point , mount /dev/xxx ~/name-of-mount
[20:53] <kadiro> BottomNotch: you do that from a real serial port or an usb one?
[20:53] <mp_se> hi
[20:53] <Spider> lickalott ls -l /dev/bus/usb/005 maybe?
[20:53] <badbodh> /home is an 'already mounted' directory
[20:54] <BottomNotch> it's a built in touchscreen so I'm pretty sure it's a real serial port
[20:54] <mp_se> I've connected two monitors on my laptop, but I can't make launch placement to be on both monitors
[20:54] <badbodh> NGC3982, if doesn't work without sudo, then use full path /home/<user>/mount-point instead of ~ thingy
[20:55] <mp_se> I've selected Launcher placement to be All Displays but it still shows only on one monitor, not on the other.. any hint for this?
[20:55] <badbodh> sudo mount /dev/xxx /home/<username>/<name-of-mount>
[20:55] <Fancypants> Quick question guys. I have an SSD for my Windows install, I have a big 1tb dump drive for extra storage. Can I make a partition on that dump drive to install linux without erasing the drive or anything? I'm not sure how all this works.
[20:55] <kadiro> BottomNotch: and only /dev/ttyS4 gives you an answer if i understand
[20:56] <BottomNotch> I believe so, I havn't tried anything beyond S4 though
[20:56] <kadiro> ok
[20:56] <BottomNotch> want me to see if I ge an answer from anything beyond S4?
[20:57] <mcphail> Fancypants: usually, yes
[20:57] <Leverquin_> i like that game fancypants XD
[20:57] <Fancypants> Heh, thanks. mcphail: What would I need to do that? Sorry, I'm a giant scrub when it comes to this stuff.
[20:58] <kadiro> BottomNotch: yes just to see what's happen
[20:58] <Fancypants> Or if you could point me to a guide online, that would be mega rad too.
[20:58] <BottomNotch>  just went all the way through S12 and nothing
[20:59] <kadiro> ah i see surelly S4 is a right one
[21:00] <mcphail> Fancypants: the installer should let you shrink your data partition and create space for Ubuntu
[21:01] <mcphail> Fancypants: make sure you have a backup, though
[21:01] <badbodh> just make sure you choose that same drive for installing mbr
[21:01] <Fancypants> mcphail: Oh, I didn't even think of that. I was thinking I'd need a partition program and jigger around with that a ton. That's an interesting idea. Thank you.
[21:01] <kadiro> BottomNotch: you said about: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom that gives you some errors, can you paste them?
[21:01] <badbodh> mcphail, that's a 1tb drive, back up where ? :D
[21:01] <jwash> Fancypants: you should use the gparted live cd
[21:01] <BottomNotch> kadiro, just issues with dependencies
[21:02] <mcphail> jwash: that is not necessary
[21:02] <jwash> Fancypants: i've used it several times to do a shrink with success
[21:02] <kadiro> BottomNotch: sho me
[21:02] <kadiro> show*
[21:02] <BottomNotch> so, I guess I should install the dependencies
[21:02] <jwash> it's easier than the built in partitioner during install
[21:02] <derich> my system (15.04) can't display chinese and other unicode characters, any idea? :|
[21:02] <Fancypants> mchail jwash: Using gparted or something like that is what i was afraid of. I'm not too confident in my skills to not bugger this whole thing up.
[21:03] <mcphail> jwash: if gparted is needed, it can be run directly from the ubuntu install disk
[21:03] <jwash> Fancypants: it really isn't a big deal
[21:03] <jwash> just defragment first
[21:03] <mcphail> Fancypants: gparted is simple enough, but the installer _should_ be enough in itself
[21:04] <jwash> it's pretty hard to screw up if you make sure and defragment first
[21:04] <Fancypants> jwash mcphail: Right on. Thank you guys. I appreciate the help. I'll see what I can do here.
[21:04] <Fancypants> Oooh one last thing...
[21:04] <mcphail> Fancypants: but you must have a backup. Any partition-noodling can go horribly wrong
[21:04] <BottomNotch> kadiro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12002857/
[21:04] <Fancypants> I have Windows 8 on my SSD and that's what it always boots into first. When I install, do I need to install grub onto the SSD as well so I can choose which to boot?
[21:04] <wileee> Fancypants, This 1tb an external?
[21:04] <jwash> install grub to the 1tb drive and let it discover your windows loader
[21:04] <lickalott> Spider, so apparently gMTP was fighting with the libmtp-???? for control.  uninstall gMTP and rebooted.  seems to be fine now.
[21:04] <lickalott> thanks!
[21:04] <Fancypants> Internal wileee
[21:05] <mcphail> Fancypants: you can install GRUB on either. Just asl your BIOS to boot from whatever disk
[21:05] <jwash> then switch the boot disc in your BIOS
[21:05] <wileee> Fancypants, awesome, carry on. ;)
[21:05] <jwash> i typically don't change the bootloader on my windows disc, so i can always switch back via BIOS
[21:05] <Fancypants> Thanks! And thanks again jwash. Much appreciated.
[21:05] <EriC^^> Fancypants are you using uefi?
[21:05] <Fancypants> I am not
[21:06] <lickalott> Spoke wayyyy too soon
[21:06] <EriC^^> ok
[21:06] <Spider> lickalott glad you fixed it. gotta love linux for the learning experience.
[21:06] <lickalott> Spider, read last....  :(
[21:07] <Spider> so lickalott i just did.
[21:07] <Spider> im reading something now about having to possibly add a plugdev group.
[21:08] <kadiro> BottomNotch: give me a momment ( my internet is too slow )
[21:08] <lickalott> it copied over about 250m of info/data, then a files window pops up every 5 - 7 secs and the icon showing connectivity flashes multiple times until I unplug it.
[21:09] <lickalott> trying a third cable now
[21:09] <Spider> cool lmk
[21:13] <BottomNotch> kadiro, I gtg,thanks for your help, I hope I can fix this later
[21:14] <mp_se> hey guys, does anyone have experience with connection laptop on two monitors. I can't make launcher to be visible on both monitors..
[21:18] <derich> my system (15.04) can't display chinese and other unicode characters, any idea? :|
[21:19] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, in the display settings there is usually an option to have launcher span monitors.
[21:19] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, but tell us more about your setup. You have a laptop with two external video outs?
[21:20] <columbo> Places yesterday a SSD, ubuntu is flying now!!
[21:20] <CosmicNoises> columbo, yes. Works very well on SSDs now.
[21:20] <mp_se> yep, one  is on connected via vga, and the second one via hdmi
[21:20] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, and you see output on both monitors?
[21:21] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, http://i.stack.imgur.com/XN5c1.png
[21:21] <columbo> I added noatime to my partitions, but are there more options to optimize SSD?
[21:21] <jwash> mp_se install arandr
[21:21] <columbo> like TRIM
[21:21] <jwash> it is a graphic tool which will help alot
[21:21] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, should see something like that in the display settings. Launcher placement should have an option for both displays.
[21:22] <CosmicNoises> jwash, true in general, but I don't think it has options for launcher placement.
[21:22] <mp_se> yes, everything is fine with that, but I need upper menu (Aplications, Places) and bottom with opened programs on both monitors
[21:22] <lickalott> Spider, 1 copied over 7 in progress.  May have been the other two cables.  They were the OEM cables
[21:22] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, you're not using unity?
[21:22] <jwash> right
[21:22] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, what DE?
[21:22] <jwash> i use xfce and just change it in the panel settings
[21:22] <OerHeks> trim is enabled by default
[21:22] <OerHeks> !trim
[21:22] <mp_se> how to see that :(
[21:22] <mp_se> I think it's gnome
[21:23] <jwash> did you just download the ubuntu iso burn and install?
[21:23] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, what version of ubuntu are you on? Just plain ubuntu? Or Xubuntu? Or Kubuntu?
[21:23] <mp_se> but how to be suer?
[21:23] <columbo> Can you check it? I'm running 15.04
[21:23] <jwash> if yes then it is gnome
[21:23] <Jeff__> how do i open a file without opening it - this way i can trick watchers (like inotifywait) to execute
[21:23] <mp_se> ubuntu 14.04
[21:23] <jwash> likely gnome
[21:23] <CosmicNoises> jwash, how? Unity is standard.
[21:23] <jwash> you didn't download xubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:23] <jwash> CosmicNoises: i use Xubuntu
[21:23] <Spider> cables can cause lots of issues I have had my fair share of bad cables.
[21:24] <CosmicNoises> jwash, me too. But standard ubuntu uses unity as standard, not gnome.
[21:24] <jwash> meh
[21:25] <jwash> unity/gnome, it isn't XFCE to me
[21:25] <jwash> all the same junk
[21:25] <wafflejock> hah
[21:25] <wafflejock> not at all but ok
[21:25] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, https://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/activities-overview-applications-420x236.png or https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Ubuntu_Unity_Keyboard_shortcuts_-_En.png
[21:25] <CosmicNoises> ??
[21:25] <columbo> I switched from Gnome distro's to Unity, Gnome isn't userfriendly anymore
[21:25] <wileee> CosmicNoises, unity is a plugin in compiz sitting on top of gnome 3.
[21:26] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, there's two links in that message, in case it's not clear.
[21:26] <mp_se> first
[21:26] <CosmicNoises> Okay, so not unity then.
[21:26] <CosmicNoises> Gnome indeed.
[21:26] <wileee> we just want accuracy here is all, it is all good
[21:27] <CosmicNoises> wileee, ofc.
[21:27] <mp_se> maybe because I have one monitor 22" and the second 23"
[21:27] <mp_se> but they're on the same resolution, and I've selected that content fits with smaller monitor
[21:27] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, shouldn't be an issue. Although you will probably end up with 'dead space' on your desktop, so watch out for that.
[21:28] <CosmicNoises> But shouldn't cause issues with launcher placement, etc.
[21:29] <mp_se> yep, I know
[21:29] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, I personally don't understand why you'd want the launcher duplicated on two screens though :P
[21:29] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, well, if the display options ain't doing it for you, try compiz settings.
[21:29] <mp_se> because I've to move mouse to my left monitor and open something in the right monitor
[21:30] <mp_se> hm... I'll be back in 15mins
[21:30] <mp_se> and try that out
[21:30] <kadiro> If we have two grafics cards, we must two mouses?
[21:30] <jmadero> hi all - just upgraded my server and having an issue mounting cifs on clients now
[21:31] <columbo> wtf
[21:31] <jmadero> getting "unable to find suitable address" error
[21:31] <jwash> firewall issue?
[21:31] <jmadero> my smb config is really straight forward http://pastebin.com/r5uy9gBM
[21:31] <jmadero> no firewall issue
[21:32] <jwash> any warnings when you restart the service?
[21:32] <jmadero> none
[21:32] <jwash> and no log file entries?
[21:33] <jmadero> where would that log be at?
[21:33] <jwash> /var/log
[21:33] <jwash> try /var/log/messages
[21:33] <jmadero> client or server?
[21:33] <jwash> server and client
[21:33] <jwash> look for a smb or nmb file
[21:33] <jwash> too
[21:33] <jmadero> I have a samba folder - empty
[21:33] <jmadero> on client
[21:34] <jwash> server?
[21:34] <jmadero> same
[21:34] <jwash> ok, on client note the time and try to connect, let it timeout
[21:34] <jwash> then do 'tail -20 /var/log/messages'
[21:34] <impalle> hi! instead of writing "sudo pm-suspend", I wrote only "suspend" and the terminal hanged. How can I kill it?
[21:34] <jwash> the last 20 lines should be displayed
[21:35] <jwash> do 'tail -20 /var/log/messages' on the server too, after the timeout
[21:35] <jmadero> jwash: it doesn't time out, it just spits out that error
[21:35] <jwash> whatever
[21:35] <jmadero> even when I try to mount command line with sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.66/share /media/MEGAMAN -o user=osmc
[21:35] <jwash> anything about smb or samba in the tail -20?
[21:36] <jmadero> tail: cannot open ‘/var/log/messages’ for reading: No such file or directory
[21:36] <jwash> is there a directory /var/log?
[21:36] <jmadero> yes
[21:36] <impalle> How can one find out which terminal "hanged" ( I wrote "suspend" and it hanged)
[21:36] <jwash> anything inside that was updated very recently?
[21:36] <jmadero> impalle: we read it the first time, please don't spam questions
[21:37] <jmadero> give it a few minutes, see if someone responds
[21:37] <kadiro> impalle: no idea sorry
[21:37] <impalle> jmadero: yes, but I rephrased the question...
[21:37] <jmadero> it was the same question - it was easy to understand the first time
[21:37] <jmadero> jwash: nothing updated recently
[21:37] <impalle> Ok so if you have many windows open, how can you find out by "ps -eaf" which is which?
[21:38] <kadiro> impalle: this was happen to me in the past, i'm thinking i'm invisible but not still question have no answer yet
[21:38] <Koning> hi
[21:38] <columbo> Anybody tried Koning Icon Theme?
[21:38] <Koning> I made that theme bro
[21:38] <columbo> send link pls
[21:39] <jmss> Hi, what's the Ubuntu equivalent of "chkconfig service on"? Command line, without manually creating links, etc.
[21:39] <Koning> it's proprietary
[21:40] <Ramzi> is there a way to get multiple specific packages and their respective dependencies onto a usb stick without having to create a local repository
[21:40] <Ramzi> ???
[21:42] <persa_> I removed a couple of packages from my ubuntu and now I can't see the clock any more. also when I go to sound configuration it justs shows a super general configuration menu and I can't don anything
[21:42] <Koning> now why did you do that?
[21:42] <persa_> Koning: I wanted to remove packages not in use
[21:43] <columbo> persa_ : sudo apt-get install indicator-datetime
[21:43] <jwash> try dmesg in /var/log
[21:43] <kadiro> persa_: just remove panel and recreate it
[21:43] <persa_> columbo: what does indicator-datetime do'
[21:44] <k1l_> persa_: see in /var/log/apt what packages you actually removed.
[21:44] <columbo> persa_ : Don't be scared. It installs the package again
[21:44] <kadiro> persa_: still i'm invisible XD but look here: http://superuser.com/questions/59702/how-to-get-default-panels-back-on-ubuntu-jaunty
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> did anyone see kadiro?
[21:45] <columbo> No
[21:45] <kadiro> loll
[21:46] <Ramzi> is there a way to get multiple specific packages and their respective dependencies onto a usb stick without having to create a local repository?
[21:46] <jmadero> Ramzi: please don't spam your question
[21:46] <Ramzi> sry
[21:46] <jmadero> it's really obnoxious in an IRC channel - we read it the first time
[21:46] <jmadero> give it 15-20 minutes, then try again
[21:46] <OerHeks> !offline
[21:46] <Ramzi> lol thanx jmadero
[21:48] <EriC^^> Ramzi you can use apt-rdepends to get the dependencies
[21:48] <EriC^^> and then download the debs, aptoncd would be easier
[21:49] <Amoz> impalle, still having problems?
[21:50] <DzAirmaX> can someone explain me how I can set intel_pstate to performance ?
[21:51] <kadiro> thk's guys about apt-rdepend and aptoncd nzvzr heard that before
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> DzAirmaX  i use inicator-cpufreq to that end, very handy
[21:51] <jmadero> LOL sob - I didn't realize samba wasn't installed when you install cifs-utils
[21:51] <jwash> DOH!
[21:52] <kadiro> *  s/nzvzr/never
[21:52] <jwash> but you had a smb start script?
[21:52] <jmadero> or at least not all the packages - samba must have been installed because I could restart it...but when I did sudo apt-get install samba . . . bunch of stuff happened
[21:52] <DzAirmaX> MonkeyDust : I need a version for ubuntu server
[21:52] <F6F7> I activated the nvidia graphic driver on ubuntu to see what they look like. however now i cannot deselect them anymore, just run them in combination with the alternative driver (intel-microcode). is there a way to deactivate them in the Additional Drivers menu (or anywhere else)?
[21:53] <DzAirmaX> MonkeyDust : my cpu never scale ....
[21:53] <BlackDalek> does anyone know if those cheap firewire to USB adapters on ebay from china actually work with Ubuntu or do they require some kind of windows driver/software?
[21:53] <jmadero> jwash: lol apparently I didn't even have a sambashare group....lesson learned :-b usually it's the simple solution (restart or missing package)
[21:54] <jwash> very true
[21:54] <kadiro> !xautomation
[21:55] <kadiro> !info xautomation
[21:55] <jmadero> jwash: bingo - mounted without a hitch:)
[21:55] <jwash> gotta love samba
[21:55] <jmadero> yeah - I prefer nfs but it gives the RPi some trouble
[21:55] <Amoz> jwash, I'm more of a tango kind of guy
[21:56] <omgitsmit> im more of a waltz
[21:56] <jwash> i've stopped using nfs because of a mixed environment
[21:56] <jwash> but i'm phasing out non-*nix
[21:57] <ubuntu_irc_guy> hello
[21:57] <omgitsmit> welcome
[21:57] <BlackDalek> Sorry, that should have read "USB to Firewire" adapter/cable.
[21:58] <kadiro> If someone banned here, how many time to be back?
[21:58] <mp_se> @CosmicNoises - nope, there's no option for that, seems like some bug.. I give up
[21:59] <omgitsmit> kadiro: IRC Guidelines http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[22:00] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, to be fair, dual screen support is not as good as it could be. There's a lot of functionality not allowed for, and it's an issue I've found myself "giving up" on for a few years now.
[22:00] <omgitsmit> CosmicNoises: running quad display with dual SLI without issues here.
[22:01] <CosmicNoises> omgitsmit, absolutely. But there's just certain NICHE things you might want to do that I've yet to find a solution for.
[22:01] <CosmicNoises> For example, I have a small monitor above my main monitor, and it's centered above it.
[22:01] <CosmicNoises> This results in deadspace to the left side of the desktop, where icons gather unseen.
[22:02] <MoPac> Hello. I'm wondering if there are tools in Ubuntu (or really in any environment) that I could use to readily swap the assigned locations of partitions and empty space on my SSD, which is quite full, complicating any wholesale movement of existing ones. Since it's an SSD, after all (and using GPT), is there some way to just arbitrarily move unallocated space or assign to a distant partition?
[22:02] <omgitsmit> ahhhh
[22:02] <CosmicNoises> Yet to find a fix.
[22:02] <omgitsmit> CosmicNoises: i see
[22:02] <mp_se> thanx for help
[22:02] <omgitsmit> CosmicNoises: i'm just doing vabilla landscape, nothing fancy here
[22:02] <omgitsmit> vanilla*
[22:02] <CosmicNoises> omgitsmit, yeah, it works great for basic set ups. Multiple monitors all the same size? Not an issue.
[22:03] <omgitsmit> CosmicNoises: two different sizes, i just had to bump the position around so my mouse wouldnt jump 6-8inches
[22:03] <greyback_> MoPac: gparted the best choice you've got for resizing partitions
[22:03] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, I recommend XFCE as a desktop environment which is COMPLETELY customisable across multiple monitors if you like.
[22:03] <kadiro> ubuntu look better than mint
[22:04] <MoPac> greyback_: I've tried using gparted, but it doesn't seem to have that kind of power right out of the box.
[22:04] <kadiro> also the users here are very good
[22:04] <CosmicNoises> kadiro, it ain't no pissing match./
[22:04] <kadiro> CosmicNoises: what you means?
[22:04] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, you can choose as many panels in as many locations as you like, completely customise them, etc.
[22:04] <greyback_> MoPac: it's a tool you need to control. I can resize and move partitions, but it won't figure out the best scenario for you.
[22:04] <MoPac> The situation looks a bit like: [stuff] [unallocated space] [giant LUKS-crypt partition] [small Windows partition that could really use some extra space]
[22:05] <CosmicNoises> kadiro, just saying, it's not a competition :P
[22:05] <CosmicNoises> even though it is.
[22:05] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, and the xubuntu flavour is officially and very well supported.
[22:05] <omgitsmit> what it is it aint, and what it aint, it is.
[22:05] <CosmicNoises> mp_se, not that you need to reinstall a new distro - just install xfce and enable as your DE.
[22:05] <kadiro> I'm banned from all chanels from mint just saying one word
[22:05] <kadiro> insane
[22:05] <CosmicNoises> kadiro, what word?
[22:06] <omgitsmit> "windows"
[22:06] <greyback_> MoPac: gparted may be unable to resize ntfs however. But try resizing stuff so you've free space around the windows/ntfs  partition. Then use window's disk manager to resize the ntfs partition to use that free space up
[22:06] <kadiro> CosmicNoises: can i say it here ( swear word ) ?
[22:06] <CosmicNoises> kadiro, nope.
[22:06] <kadiro> ok
[22:06] <omgitsmit> kadiro: IRC Guidelines http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[22:06] <CosmicNoises> kadiro, I'm surprised I got away with pissing.
[22:06] <greyback_> MoPac: so use gparted to move your LUKS partition, then have window expand its partition to suit
[22:06] <CosmicNoises> I think the idea is to keep the IRC child-friendly. Most children I know swear more than I do.
[22:06] <mp_se> ok, thanks. I'll try one of your suggestions
[22:07] <badbodh> kadiro, you were caught by gay lesbihan. no one can help you now.
[22:07] <omgitsmit> CosmicNoises: they learned it from you ;)
[22:07] <kadiro> just aying one word by mistakes give me banned for 7 days?
[22:07] <badbodh> whoops wrong channel
[22:07] <CosmicNoises> omgitsmit, I'm Scottish. Possible exception.
[22:07] <CosmicNoises> Anyway, this chat is for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:07] <omgitsmit> yup
[22:07] <MoPac> greyback_: Aren't there issues with resizing/moving LUKS partitions in gparted as though they were normal? Or is it fully supported/transparent now?
[22:08] <greyback_> MoPac: no idea, sorry
[22:08] <k1l_> kadiro: talk to their ops. see their channelrules to find them. we have channelrules in here too.( see topic). for more questions about ubuntu channels see #ubuntu-ops
[22:08] <kadiro> thk's k1l_
[22:08] <MoPac> greyback_: I know that at least fairly recently it could be complex and seemed dangerous
[22:09] <kadiro> but i decided to never go to their channel
[22:09] <radian_> hey im new in ubuntu mate for raspberry pi 2
[22:09] <MoPac> greyback_: The point of my original question was: since this is an *SSD*, and therefore I assume that the "locations" of the partitions are totally arbitrary, is there some tool to take advantage of that rather than treating them like they're on a magnetic disk?
[22:10] <omgitsmit> MoPac: data is data, i would think it could move the bits over without issues.
[22:11] <omgitsmit> MoPac: im lazy and just clonezilla everything these days hahaha
[22:11] <MoPac> omgitsmit: You mean re: the LuKS thing?
[22:11] <omgitsmit> MoPac: yeah
[22:11] <MoPac> omgitsmit: http://gparted.org/features.php
[22:12] <omgitsmit> whoa
[22:12] <MoPac> greyback_: omgitsmit:  And there's this [I think quite outdated] guide to doing what is otherwise this simple task https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[22:13] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  With the new 3.19.0-25-generic kernel, is safe to turn trim on again in fstab for my Samsung SSD drives?
[22:13] <MoPac> But again, I'm sitting here thinking: "Is it really necessary for me to be going through all of that to get the unallocated space located 'adjaect' to a certain partition when on an SSD there's no physical meaning to that?"
[22:15] <greyback_> MoPac: yep, unless you're gonna hack the firmware of the SSD ;)
[22:15] <skittishtrigger> I am not sure where to start here. I want to run a command (du -hs /path/to/directory) and output the results to a text file. I would lke that command to run say once every 5 minutes(temporary thing). Where would I start research to accomplish this all from terminal?
[22:15] <fishcooker> how to negate routing in case on vpn i want all connection to certain network will use this routing rule, other will use default route/gateway?
[22:16] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: cronjobs, which are basically scheduled tasks for linux
[22:16] <skittishtrigger> ok. so that handles automation. What about outputting the result from just the command and not everything in terminal?
[22:16] <k1l_> skittishtrigger: command > textfile.txt
[22:17] <skittishtrigger> that simple? lol awesome. thank you! All fo you :)
[22:17] <skittishtrigger> ue thats going in. Don't mean its done yet.
[22:17] <k1l_> you even dont need ".txt" on linux
[22:17] <omgitsmit> k1l_: skittishtrigger: i still put .txt for cross platform support lol
[22:18] <M1ST1C> Hey guys I just came in here to say that you guys are awsome and Ubuntu kicks ass
[22:18] <skittishtrigger> oops. wrong window. still getting used to multi-tasking on multiple monitors :?
[22:18] <mioso> I was finally able to USB boot. I now have linux for the first time with ubuntu 15.04, but it's sooooo much slower than windows 7? What gives?
[22:19] <wileee> mioso, Ste the hardware and evidence.
[22:19] <wileee> State*
[22:19] <mioso> wilee, I think I have a link to my pcpartpicker.
[22:19] <badbodh> mioso, you need graphics drivers if you got nvidia/ati . also check your system monitor (task manager) and see what's eating cpu.
[22:20] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: k1l_: you could even get more in depth and parse your output with awk, but even thats way over my head
[22:20] <mioso> I do not have a graphics card, just a amd fx 8320
[22:20] <M1ST1C> Mioso try downgrading
[22:20] <wileee> mioso, I suspect you need a lighter desktop, just a guess.
[22:21] <skittishtrigger> ya, just trying to add a basic directory size indicator. I set up a jailed root for sftp and I am going to refresh a .txt so they know rough file size in that directory
[22:21] <skittishtrigger> total wise^
[22:21] <mioso>  What does lighter mean?
[22:21] <wileee> M1ST1C, Downgrading? To what?
[22:21] <M1ST1C> 12.10 LTS 32 bit try that
[22:21] <k1l_> mioso: so the build in gpu needs the fglrx too?
[22:21] <k1l_> M1ST1C: that is just a wrong advice, mioso
[22:22] <wileee> mioso, LInux has many desktops to choose from, some use less hardware resources than others
[22:22] <omgitsmit> mioso: check out xubuntu, which has xfce window manager instead of unity window manager which can be a bit more demanding on the graphics (heavy)
[22:22] <skittishtrigger> ^ I had fun with xbuntu
[22:22] <omgitsmit> still running it on my vm's
[22:22] <omgitsmit> its solid
[22:22] <k1l_> mioso: wait. does that even have a build in gpu? what is your gpu?
[22:22] <skittishtrigger> I only do headless now for most of my nix stuff
[22:22] <M1ST1C> K1l_ how so?
[22:22] <mioso> No GPU.
[22:22] <skittishtrigger> decided to quit being scared and jumped on in. lol
[22:23] <Amoz> mioso, are you running from an USB?
[22:23] <mioso> integrated graphics throug the 8320
[22:23] <mioso> I installed on a SSD
[22:23] <k1l_> mioso: can you show a "lspci" in a pastebin please?
[22:23] <Amoz> mioso, and exactly how would you describe it to be  "slow", if more detailed?
[22:23] <mioso> kll, i'd love to! how though
[22:24] <k1l_> !paste | mioso
[22:24] <k1l_> do "lspci" in a terminal, and copy the text, put it on that site, show the link here.
[22:24] <mioso> ok
[22:26] <mioso> just type lspci
[22:27] <wileee> M1ST1C, 13.10 is eol
[22:28] <radian_> hey i want to ask , how to check sensor in ubuntu mate for raspberry pi ? i got lm-sensors like sensors for pc , but nothing work
[22:28] <wileee> M1ST1C, channel topic gives you supported releasaes
[22:28] <mioso> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0) 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bri
[22:28] <omgitsmit> radian_: which sensor are you trying to detect?
[22:28] <Amoz> mioso, use pastebin
[22:28] <radian_> pcu temp
[22:28] <k1l_> mioso: please use the pastebin
[22:28] <k1l_> !paste | mioso
[22:28] <radian_> cpu temp and gpu tem
[22:28] <mioso> sorry, paste in the bin and nothing happened
[22:29] <mioso> pasted*
[22:29] <k1l_> mioso: come on. its like uploading a picture just with text.
[22:29] <wileee> M1ST1C, Sorry 12.10 is eol, my mistake, in what you posted.
[22:29] <Amoz> mioso, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:29] <Amoz> put the text there, and press the "paste!" button
[22:31] <mioso> sorry. done.
[22:31] <mioso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003412/
[22:32] <omgitsmit> radian_: im seeing some raspian tools here, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=34994
[22:32] <radian_> ok thanks , your helpfull
[22:32] <omgitsmit> not really lol, but i try
[22:32] <M1ST1C> I got problems with my graphics driver on my dell inspiron mini 1011.  http://imgur.com/nLzntK9
[22:33] <k1l_> mioso: ok, your video card is that old, that its not supported by amd driver since 14.04. you you can only use the free dirver (which runs automatically)
[22:33] <omgitsmit> M1ST1C: did you check for additional drivers?
[22:34] <M1ST1C> yes
[22:34] <wileee> M1ST1C, Is the OS running fine graphics work fine? lspci in a terminal will tell you the graphics
[22:34] <k1l_> M1ST1C: please pastebin a "lspci"
[22:34] <bitwiggler> is there anyway to force "apt-get upgrade" to actually pull a newer valid package list from archive.ubuntu.com? and avoid the 404 on apt-get upgrade
[22:34] <mioso> k1l: Thank you. Any advice on improving that video card?
[22:34] <k1l_> mioso: yes, buy a new one
[22:34] <omgitsmit> bitwiggler: just apt-get update?
[22:34] <wileee> M1ST1C, gotta be intel  most likely
[22:35] <M1ST1C> probably
[22:35] <wileee> M1ST1C, Do the lspci pastebin as suggested if you can
[22:35] <k1l_> M1ST1C: that is really really low memory in there. i would not hope that its running "usable" on any other ubuntu than the Lubuntu.
[22:35] <bitwiggler> omgitsmit: wish that was fixing it. :P
[22:36] <omgitsmit> bitwiggler: i mean you could just remove the sources that are 404'ing out
[22:36] <M1ST1C> I will I have to go to work
[22:36] <k1l_> bitwiggler: run a apt-get update.
[22:36] <M1ST1C> You guys are on 24/7
[22:36] <omgitsmit> bitwiggler: but if you want to refresh the software it's pulling down from archive.ubuntu.org just apt-get update
[22:36] <k1l_> bitwiggler: that will get you a proper new package list from the servers
[22:37] <wileee> M1ST1C, yeah, the memory is low lubuntu will be better
[22:37] <k1l_> bitwiggler: if you get any errors, please put all that output into a pastebin and show the link here
[22:37] <bitwiggler> apt-get update + apt-get upgrade is what is breaking
[22:38] <omgitsmit> bitwiggler: you most likely have some sources that are no longer available (404), run the command and pastebin the errors
[22:38] <k1l_> bitwiggler: put it all into a pastebin and show the link here
[22:38] <bitwiggler> am
[22:38] <bitwiggler> hold on
 unfortuanetly, this is my build > Any GPUs that you'd recommend. I don't play games http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j3MDFT
[22:41] <bitwiggler> k1l_: there you gohttps://gist.github.com/449c21934dd8f4792629
[22:41] <k1l_> mioso: i am not too much a video card/ hardware guy. better start a thread on askubuntu or ubuntuforums or such. but amd/ati is known to drop old cards quite fast. before i had a i7 cpu i was fine with the nvidia i had.
[22:42] <bitwiggler> apt-get update then apt-get install is hitting the 404 on old libsqlite package
[22:42] <bitwiggler> cached..
[22:42] <bitwiggler> problem solved
[22:43] <mioso> Before I purchase a GPU, Would I have this same problem with other xubuntu or kubuntu, etc? I'd rather not buy anything
[22:44] <k1l_> mioso: that pc seems quite fast with enough ram and a ssd. i really think the old video card could be the issue
[22:44] <ubuntu903> hello
[22:44] <mioso> which line specifically points to the old driver
[22:44] <mioso> video card*
[22:45] <k1l_> mioso: the one that says "vga"
[22:46] <mioso> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000]?
[22:46] <k1l_> mioso: yes
[22:47] <OerHeks> indeed, radeon 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx
[22:49] <mioso> k1l: Thank you . I just found a thread on this, and you're absolutely right. I should buy a new video card. I know you're not a hardware guy, buy any pointers before I drop $200?
[22:52] <ubuntu903> hi.. i have some problem here..https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9EAGVXU-hFU3BMRFBPYV9FMlk/view?usp=docslist_api  can you help me?
[22:53] <k1l_> mioso: sorry, i dont use a video card, i got a gpu bioöd in the intel i7. that is enough for my usage.
[22:53] <Leverquin_> looks like you need help from the best hacker in the world. better call HACKERMAN
[22:53] <omgitsmit> Leverquin_: you rang?
[22:53] <mioso> ok. thanks again
[22:53] <Leverquin_> @omnitsmit yes i ranked.
[22:54] <Leverquin_> lol wrong chat :D
[22:57] <SpeakFreely> Can someone tell me how I can import an openVPN config? I cannot find the import button..
[22:58] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: i import from terminal, otherwise i think you need a package for it to show up in nm-manager
[22:58] <AndroUser> What desktop environment do you guys use?
[22:58] <Prueba> hola
[22:58] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, well I downloaded network-manager-openvpn. How do I import from terminal?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> mioso: I run an older ATI card . That also no longer has ATI support. BUT, a bit newer and have no problems with the 'radeon' open sourcse driver. Paid $15 US for the card .
[22:59] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[22:59] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: down at the end of "Getting Clients Connected"
[23:00] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: er, no its not.
[23:00] <LtL> mioso: i bought a EVGA Nvidia GEForce 750ti pci-express card for $127.00 ... works fine with nouveau driver out of the box
[23:00] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, yeah don't see a command
[23:00] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: sec
[23:00] <joker_89> hi
[23:00] <AndroUser> Hi there
[23:01] <joker_89> I have a doubt, I want to have a Ubuntu server and 2 windows clients. How can I add users to the ubuntu server? LDAP, SAMBA, ...?
[23:02] <WarAndGeese> My second ubuntu live usb seems to have broken !g
[23:02] <joker_89> to autenticate the users
[23:02] <WarAndGeese> ignore that "!g"
[23:02] <AndroUser> Joker: depends what functions you want
[23:03] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: this is what i have bookmarked for my setup - https://goo.gl/c8M3Ri
[23:03] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: it let me get it working in the network manager
[23:03] <joker_89> [andatche] i want only to share files with samba
[23:03] <AndroUser> Joker: Do you want to control the computers and users, like in active directory,  or only share files?
[23:04] <joker_89> which is the solution for each one?
[23:04] <WarAndGeese> Is that a thing? ubuntu live usb's breaking a lot? I followed what seemed to be the most recommended instructions, and got the distribution from a legitimate source
[23:04] <AndroUser> I use samba myself for my homeserver. I think it's the best way to go.
[23:04] <joker_89> if i want both f
[23:04] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, Alright thank you, going to try it now
[23:04] <joker_89> and if i want to use as an active direcotry?
[23:04] <AndroUser> I only need file sharing, so it works Great for me.
[23:04] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: love openvpn, i set up the "access server" package so i can easily browse, download, import and connect
[23:05] <squinty> WarAndGeese, best way to download in my opinion is torrent (psp) from the ubuntu site.  check the md5 sum to test the integrity of your download
[23:05] <AndroUser> I haven't tried that out, but i've heard it's pretty straight forward. I think Google, or other participents of this channel,  are a greater help than me in that case.
[23:05] <WarAndGeese> That's what I did, from the ubuntu site
[23:05] <WarAndGeese> or a linux site, whatever the official one was
[23:06] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, what is the "access server" package?
[23:06] <skittishtrigger> ok, so I tried    * * * * * du -hs home/user/ > home/luser/spaceused.txt and evern after restarting cron it does not seem to be updating. running the base command from term updates it.
[23:06] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: https://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/overview.html
[23:06] <joker_89> thanks andatche
[23:06] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, also I have a zip file with multiple ovpn files, will this still work?
[23:06] <joker_89> [AndroUser] xd
[23:07] <area51pilot> I have a Dell Inspiron 15 with Synaptics touchpad and its too sensitive when using the touchpad input. I need to increase the pressure and palm detection but everthing I try doesnt seem to work. When I use the touchpad, just moving my finger selects text and scrolls a page without clicking. When in Nautilus, it grabs the resizing bar and shortcuts/bookmarks/folders and attempts to drag them. Can anyone help me
[23:07] <area51pilot> troubleshoot?
[23:07] <LtL> skittishtrigger: try a / slash before home
[23:07] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: gives me a landing page that auto detects what im browsing on (android, windows, linux, osx) and gives me the openvpn profile to import for that platform
[23:07] <AndroUser> Joker: No problem. Happy to help
[23:07] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, oh wow that's cool
[23:07] <skittishtrigger> in both cases?
[23:07] <omgitsmit> SpeakFreely: makes it painfully easy to set up a new vpn on a new device (something a dummy like myself really needs lol)
[23:08] <LtL> skittishtrigger: absolute paths are always best
[23:08] <cogitation1> I'm trying to read a cd that I've just burned in ubuntu 14.04 LTS live cd and the cd-rom icons for both of my drives have disappeared in the unity bar.  Can anyone help?
[23:08] <toshiba> i have a toshiba satellite a215 running 14.04.1lts, when i install and update, the kernal changes to 14.04.3 and the screen starts flickering. i can reproduce this everytime. on install #3 and have no updated to see if it was hardware or software. looking for a way to continue to getupdates and not have to deal with major flicker
[23:08] <Satellite> WHO PINGED ME
[23:08] <Satellite> man that joke never gets old
[23:08] <skittishtrigger> cron runs as system/root correct?
[23:09] <k1l_> Satellite: please stop that joke in here. this channel is support only
[23:09] <squinty> WarAndGeese,  pendrivelinux.com for various usb programs and good tutorials.  or you could try unetbootin  (http://unetbootin.github.io/)
[23:09] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: runs as user i believe
[23:09] <LtL> skittishtrigger: crontab can run as user
[23:09] <Satellite> k1l_: :rolleyes:
[23:09] <SpeakFreely> omgitsmit, this tutorial looks like its still running from the cli?
[23:09] <skittishtrigger> i made it as root hoping it would run as root. lol
[23:09] <LtL> skittishtrigger: provided what the command is of course
[23:09] <toshiba> omgitsmit likes middle school girls
[23:09] <omgitsmit> busted.
[23:10] <skittishtrigger> cuess I could su in as user then make the cron there to run command
[23:10] <cogitation1> Can anyone help?
[23:10] <squinty> WarAndGeese,  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads  for torrent download    also check your md5sum
[23:10] <skittishtrigger> * * * * * du -hs home/user/ > home/luser/spaceused.txt should output directory size every 1min
[23:10] <WarAndGeese> squinty: pendrivelinux is the one I used, using the universal usb installer. Maybe I'll try the other one
[23:10] <WarAndGeese> and yes, I used the torrent directly from the ubuntu site
[23:10] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: you're missing a slash before "home"
[23:11] <WarAndGeese> Thanks
[23:11] <skittishtrigger> that was the up arrow trick. cron has slashed before both homes now
[23:11] <AndroUser> Warandgeese: I use Rawrite
[23:11] <AndroUser> Works every time.
[23:12] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: also, when im having cronjob issues - to quickly troubleshoot i run the cron line manually to see if it even works
[23:13] <omgitsmit> usually its a syntax issue
[23:13] <skittishtrigger> the base command works but I have not tried it with the * * * * * arguments
[23:13] <toshiba> as usual this room BLOWs for help
[23:13] <omgitsmit> without the *
[23:13] <skittishtrigger> I am thinking a user issue because my other cron job in that file seems to work
[23:13] <WarAndGeese> Maybe I'll try rawrite too
[23:13] <WarAndGeese> Thanks
[23:14] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: the stars are just the timing, check out this cronjob calculator http://cron.nmonitoring.com/cron-generator.html
[23:14] <AndroUser> :)
[23:15] <skittishtrigger> nice utility. :) It output the exact think I had in cron the first time. lol
[23:15] <omgitsmit> hahaha
[23:15] <omgitsmit> skittishtrigger: from what you pasted, i see missing slashes for /home/user and /home/luser
[23:16] <skittishtrigger> cron job utility suggested without it. I have tried both ways so far
[23:16] <Koning> Does anyone in here know a way to make the terminal background blurry?
[23:16] <Koning> (or a nice terminal that supports it)
[23:16] <AndroUser> Warandgeese: I've only used it on my Windows computer, but maybe it's been ported to Linux.
[23:17] <cogitation1> How do I make the icons appear in the Unity bar for my two dvd-rom drives?  They disappeared and I need to access a dvd.
[23:17] <k1l> Koning: did you try the settings of the profile from the gnome-terminal?
[23:17] <Koning> it only supports transparancy
[23:18] <Koning> but a nice guassian blur would help with readability, if you know what I mean
[23:18] <Koning> a transparant terminal over a window with text ins't really comfortable
[23:18] <k1l> Koning: adjust the transarency to your needs?
[23:18] <Koning> that's not enough xd
[23:19] <Koning> I was able to do it in i3 using compton
[23:21] <TJ-> skittishtrigger: I'm wondering why you need to report that info so frequently. It begs the question have you considered using Quotas which incidentally provide tools for querying the user quota vs used values
[23:22] <skittishtrigger> it was just a temporary thing so they could keep track themselves. Letting them use my private ftp to back a laptops info before getting shipped out. they are jsut curious really
[23:22] <carpediembaby_> Hi. Is there some unified place where a proxy can be set and also offers a bit of control? I am using the standard network proxy switcher available with ubuntu but it doesn't have an option to exclude addresses
[23:23] <skittishtrigger> I can do it manually running the command but ehh. too lazy to stay here all night updating. lol
[23:23] <omgitsmit> carpediembaby_: i ended up using a proxy switcher extension for chrome
[23:23] <carpediembaby_> I tried updating the setting of excluded addresses in dconf-editor and added 192.168.0.0/16 for local addresses but it apparently doesn't work in chrome ..
[23:24] <TJ-> skittishtrigger: I'd suggest 1 minute intervals is too frequent. That's a lot of dirent reads and potential I/O to slow down the system and pollute the cache
[23:24] <colincolby> anyone have a guide for 14.04 setting up email servers and also hopefully
[23:24] <skittishtrigger> ya, that was more for testing to see if it was updatign the file. was going to set it at 10min intervals once working
[23:24] <omgitsmit> carpediembaby_: yeah the extension has white/blacklists that you can tell it to say, always push ubuntu traffic over proxy
[23:24] <omgitsmit> carpediembaby_: but my gmail web page wont go over proxy
[23:24] <colincolby> ssl certs
[23:25] <carpediembaby_> omgitsmit: which extension? even though i would like to avoid setting proxies for everything individually..
[23:25] <omgitsmit> proxify or something, lemme google
[23:25] <colincolby> and a web based login too. one newbie can do all that in about a day i hope
[23:25] <skittishtrigger> squirrel....lol
[23:25] <carpediembaby_> omgitsmit: the default proxy works fine with chrome, i can access everything except my own machine :)
[23:25] <colincolby> i tried squirrel once... meh
[23:26] <skittishtrigger> No, I saw a squirrel...
[23:26] <omgitsmit> carpediembaby_: the extension i use is called FoxyProxy
[23:26] <colincolby> skittishtrigger: rofl
[23:26] <cogitation1> don't mean to be rude at all... did I get really lucky the first one or two times I came here?  Seemed like I got help right away, but this time no responses on something I thought would be simple.
[23:26] <cogitation1> Or rather, the last 3 times or so I've come here, it's taken a really long time for a response.
[23:26] <omgitsmit> carpediembaby_: i use it so my personal traffic doesnt go across my work network
[23:27] <skittishtrigger> I don't know the answer. I don't use a gui to miss icons with :?
[23:27] <colincolby> cogitation1: maybe i can help
[23:27] <colincolby> what's up
[23:27] <cogitation1> thanks colincolby
[23:27] <cogitation1> "How do I make the icons appear in the Unity bar for my two dvd-rom drives?  They disappeared and I need to access a dvd."
[23:27] <colincolby> np
[23:28] <carpediembaby_> omgitsmit: ah, i am not talking about that kind of proxy.. i am talking about network proxy i am behind..
[23:28] <omgitsmit> carpediembaby_: i would look into iptables
[23:30] <cogitation1> colincolby: "How do I make the icons appear in the Unity bar for my two dvd-rom drives?  They disappeared and I need to access a dvd."
[23:34] <TJ-> skittishtrigger: I tested it here and it works. Did you create the crontab with "crontab -e -u <username>" ? Does "/var/log/auth.log" report CRON jobs every minute for that user?
[23:34] <skittishtrigger> tried from/as root and did a su user and made crontab there also. none of the worked atm
[23:35] <skittishtrigger> of them^
[23:37] <kadiro> I'm back
[23:37] <TJ-> skittishtrigger: You should use "crontab -e -u ..." to install a user crontab, see "man 1 crontab"
[23:38] <skittishtrigger> kk. i'll check that out.
[23:38] <kadiro> !info crontab
[23:39] <kadiro> !crontab
[23:41] <skittishtrigger> Everytime I try something new on nix I end up with two browser windows open and 8 tabs on top of putty and irc :?
[23:43] <TJ-> skittishtrigger: As part of Debian Policy, almost every system executable and configuration file has a man-page entry which is installed by default
[23:44] <skittishtrigger> ya. was a lot of help with stuff like scripts and fstab and such. some stuff I am just slow with. lol
[23:48] <NoobJay> hello
[23:49] <NoobJay> I am getting this on a newly installed ubuntu 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003712/
[23:49] <NoobJay> anyone familiar with this? it may not be a problem but it's just annoying
[23:49] <k1l> NoobJay: run "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[23:50] <NoobJay> is that safe?
[23:50] <k1l> NoobJay: yes.
[23:50] <cogitation1> How do I make the icons appear in the Unity bar for my two dvd-rom drives?  They disappeared and I need to access a dvd.
[23:50] <cogitation1> Can anyone tell me if that's a dumb question, how I should modify it?
[23:51] <NoobJay> downloading 65mb
[23:51] <k1l> NoobJay: for kernel updates you need to run the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or the "sudo apt full-upgrade" commands, since they need to install "new" packages
[23:53] <TJ-> skittishtrigger: Using "crontab -e" for my current user, I added "* * * * * /bin/echo "$(/bin/date +\%Y:\%m:\%d-\%H:\%M:\%S) $(du -hs $HOME/Downloads)" > $HOME/spaceused.txt" and it results in: "2015:08:05-00:52:01 4.9G        /home/tj/Downloads" every minute
[23:54] <skittishtrigger> my syntax is wrong then. using the examples on ask ubuntu it didn't work.  i'll try your format. thank you very much btw!
[23:55] <nicekiwi> how can I 'su' who dosent have a password?
[23:56] <nicekiwi> to a a user*
[23:56] <herpderphurr> nicekiwi: sudo su?
[23:56] <julian-delphiki> nicekiwi, sudo su - username
[23:56] <nicekiwi> herpderphurr, julian-delphiki heeey :) awesome. thanks
[23:56] <julian-delphiki> np
[23:57] <jamesd> when you are root,  su doesn't ask for a passwd
[23:57] <jterman> smead: as02.en1 is now running last nights build. There are a lot of trinkets that are piling up.
[23:57] <cogitation1> Is there any advice on my issue?  I tried looking around on the web and ran into hurdles.  (How do I make the icons appear in the Unity bar for my two dvd-rom drives?  They disappeared and I need to access a dvd.)
[23:57] <NoobJay> got it fixed, thanks
[23:57] <NoobJay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003758/
[23:57] <nicekiwi> when you are root, there are no Nucular launch codes :P