[00:00] OneM_Industries: /home/YOUR_USERNAME/.local/... [00:00] OH1 [00:00] !* [00:00] I was in /usr/local/share. [00:01] Ok, so now how do I use that? [00:01] romualdo: I suspect you've mixed up the DIMM slot numbers, and left the first slot empty and filled 3 other slots. Try mirroring the layout so the empty slot has one of the 8GB modules and the hext slot has the other 8GB, then the 4GB in the 3rd slot [00:02] TJ-: but why on windows 8.1 this is not a problem ? (i matched the 8gb in the 2-channel slots, and the 4gb alone in the another 2-channel [00:03] romualdo: That is strange... do you have any kernel command-line options that could be affecting the way the memory is mapped? check with "cat /proc/cmdline" [00:04] TJ-: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-15-generic root=UUID=2ceae185-be3c-420a-8d7f-e66c76bf85ff ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 [00:04] OneM_Industries: Just select the starter (=desktop-file) you just made as the default application for jar files. [00:04] Ah. [00:04] TJ-: this is a fresh install, just installed kvirc until now [00:05] g2000, thanks alot m8, i wouldnt have thought to look at which driver i was using again. all is well now [00:06] romualdo: Well the DMI info provided by the BIOS is definitely incorrect as to the memory-mapping, so it looks like the BIOS has a bug and Linux isn't aware of it, but Windows drivers probably are [00:06] Odd, not seeing the .desktop file anywhere. [00:06] neorpheus: You're welcome! [00:06] romualdo: do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" please [00:07] now to figure out if i can get Space Engineers working in linux =3 [00:08] I am not seeing the .desktop file anywhere. [00:08] OneM_Industries: Not even when you do a dash search? Try to log out and in again, this should really fix it Oo [00:08] "Dash search"? [00:08] TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11996845/ [00:09] TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/11996845 === OneM_Industries is now known as OneMatt [00:10] OneM_Industries: Search for it in the unity dash [00:10] testing [00:10] romualdo: Arggh, that's got systemd logging hasn't it. Hate it! No system text logs [00:10] I am using Lubuntu, which does not use unity, as far as I know. [00:11] lll [00:11] Hey, could someone maybe explain what's going on in bmon? See screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/PF6zGu4.png [00:11] TJ-: a friend said about something called PAE, that deals with large amount of memory, is not the case ? [00:11] What I don't understand is how p3p1 has no transfer (TX bps) yet it's child (? what it even is?) has some [00:12] gggg [00:12] And ifconfig doesn't know about the transfer in p3p1 apparently, it's always at 0.0B for p3p1 [00:12] Not seeing it, g2000. [00:12] And the traffic isn't logged in any of the interfaces ;o [00:13] romualdo: I'd hope you're using the 64-bit release (amd64) in which case it won't matter. check with "dpkg --print-architecture" [00:14] TJ-: amd64 [00:14] romualdo: Good, so PAE doesn't enter into it that's only for allowing 32-bit systems to access more than 4GB [00:15] OneMatt: Oh sorry, i did not know that. But it should be the same directory for all ubuntu flavours. === zz_denbeiren is now known as denbeiren [00:16] OneMatt: could you paste the contents of your starter at http://paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link, please? [00:17] I can type it into the chat, it is only one line. [00:17] OneMatt: Thats why it is not showing up [00:17] Oh. [00:17] OneMatt: ill create the file for you (: give me a minute [00:18] barnex: I believe what you're seeing is as expected with a true Ethernet device [00:18] TJ-: well, can I get transfer stats off of it somehow? [00:22] barnex: I'm not sure; I would think there's some kind of config for bmon to isolate what you want [00:22] TJ-: yeah, probably. thanks. [00:23] barnex: I see the same thing here with the physical Ethernet interfaces [00:24] OneMatt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11996905/ this should do the trick. [00:25] Replace %f with the file path? [00:27] OneMatt: Depends on how you want to use the file. Do you want a starter for your specific application or to open JAR files with java by clicking on them? === denbeiren is now known as zz_denbeiren [00:27] barnex: looks like the extra info about the queue discipline comes from bmon defaulting to using the netlink input module. Try "sudo bmon --input=proc" that output might be more like what you want [00:27] TJ-: thanks [00:28] Ah, so keep it as %f to open all different types of java files? [00:29] OneMatt: Yes, this should work if you select the starter as the default application to open jar files. [00:31] Odd, still not seeing it under the applications tab... [00:32] TJ-: no idea how can i fix the memory issue so ? [00:33] romualdo: without being able to see the boot dmesg log there's not way to know [00:33] TJ-: and how i enable dmesg log ? [00:35] romualdo: systemd has made the logs binary; you'll need to tell it to dump the dmesg log as text [00:35] TJ-: and how i tell ? [00:36] OneMatt: brb [00:37] romualdo: I can't tell you; I son't use systemd [00:37] TJ-: hummm, I will try discover it [00:37] test [00:38] hello. does anyone know where i can find a list of all the preinstalled packages in server 14.04? there's a manifest for the desktop version here, but not for the server version http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ [00:39] test [00:39] test failed [00:39] dang [00:39] Segmentation Fault (core dumped) [00:39] i guess i broke it [00:40] OneMatt: The file works perfectly for me /: [00:40] jaye2: see http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/trusty/daily/current/ [00:40] Odd. [00:40] OneMatt: should show up as "OpenJDK 7 Runtime" [00:40] Under what section? [00:41] Because in lubuntu, the applications are split up into sections by function. [00:41] TJ-: thank you [00:42] OneMatt: is there something like "miscellaneous"? [00:43] Not seeing one. [00:44] OneMatt, try typing openjdk in the run dialog? [00:45] OneMatt: Just try to right-click your jar file, select "Other application..." or similar. In the new window select "OpenJDK 7 Runtime" [00:45] That is what I am doing, OpenJDK Runtime is not showing up. [00:46] And I have opened up every category. [00:46] OneMatt: "apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre" [00:46] OneMatt: can you type in a custom command in the "other application..." window? did not know you are using lubuntu when i suggested using a .desktop file. [00:46] best size for root partition? [00:47] Yes, I can use a custom command. [00:47] OneMatt: Perfect. [00:47] OneMatt: Get rid of the desktop file and just use "/usr/bin/java -jar %f" as a custom command. === zz_denbeiren is now known as denbeiren [00:49] OneMatt: I originally thought you were using unity. In unity there is no "custom command" option afaik. [00:50] hey, I assume I have eventually made a bootable usb http://i.imgur.com/mHwxFdn.png I am not sure if this is correct. I don't know how to boot to USB in Windows8.1 I have tried http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4935-startup-options-menu-boot-windows-8-a.html but even here when I restart there is no option for booting from USB! Any help is really appreciated!!! [00:50] It lives! [00:52] And it doesn't work because of internet settings. Kill me now... [00:52] OneMatt: wtf? :D [00:53] Yeah, it executes, but refuses to load up. [00:53] Anyway, that is an issue for the #minecraft channel on espernet. [00:53] Thank you! [00:53] elisa87: If the system has Windows 8.1 the firmware of the PC will be UEFI. You'll need to disable 'fastboot' in Windows and ensure the UEFI setup is also set not to do fastboot, if it has that option [00:54] haha [00:54] you are welcome [00:55] My friend+linux+me having use linux for more than 5 seconds="Hey, can you get this working?". === denbeiren is now known as zz_denbeiren [00:59] TJ-: how should I disable fastboot? [01:00] elisa87: There's some setting in Windows to disable it; check the Windows docs. [01:01] hola [01:01] hola [01:02] :v [01:02] Hello! [01:03] hi speak spanish ? [01:04] !es | TIOTROLLAZO [01:04] TIOTROLLAZO: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [01:06] even though I disabled fast boot in power options in windows 8, I still can't boot from the bootable Ubuntu USB! Any idea what else I can do? [01:07] I have checked the advanced settings in recovery in PC setting but still the same !!! [01:09] elisa87: you should be entering the EFI and looking for the boot menu, or pressing a key to get the boot menu. which system is this? [01:09] It is a Dell laptop with Intel 5th generation CPU daftykins [01:11] and then the user was gone [01:11] How to change cursor icon in ubuntu 14 [01:15] I am using Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS. Is there a piece of software that will show me installed packages and their dependencies and broken packages and stuff like that? [01:17] hello [01:17] best irc client for ubuntu? [01:18] Havixil: Have you examined 'synaptic' ? [01:19] I usually just install from .debs instead of using software centers and things. I will check that out thanks. [01:19] !best | slicepaperwords [01:19] I've deleted "flash" titled itens on apper since lightspark bugged my browser, and now youtube is crashing. Seems obvious something has been suitable to the dependencies there. So could you please help my ask to quote necessary flash dependencies to make firefox (iceweasel) work again natively? regards [01:20] hi [01:20] someone here has experience installing Ubuntu and Manjaro side to side? the Manjaro partition goes into a kernel panic [01:21] i did various reinstalls [01:23] esr_, Ubuntu should have nothing to do with this, there support is what's needed. [01:23] their* [01:23] so I have tried Del, f2 and F12(said by my notebook) when restarting to go to boot option or bios. None worked. It is a Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition. Any idea what I can do!?! I need to change the boot order inorder to boot from the bootable Ubuntu usb [01:24] ok, I though because it has ubuntu as well, maybe can be related as well [01:24] is there a "toddler" or "child" mode for ubuntu? something that restricts keystrokes.. and keeps them on a certain application/game? [01:24] elisa87: shutdown by running "shutdown -s -t 1" in Windows, then power on and keep pressing F12 repeatedly. [01:24] thx anyway [01:24] elisa87: Dell machines _definitely_ are F12 [01:25] elisa87: so unless this is a work or education machine where you don't have the right to install another OS, so it's locked down, it really should work. [01:25] I have pressed f12 during the whole restart!!! it didn't work!!! it it driving me nuts daftykins [01:25] actually has Peach OSI an Manjaro [01:25] elisa87: restart isn't what i said [01:26] nah it is bought for me by my adviser and I am given full administration. I have installed Windows 8.1 enterprise on it and wiped the Win7 and I now need the Ubuntu 14.04 for my robotics project! daftykins [01:26] enterprise is only allowed for companies - sounds illegal to me [01:26] I even tried the shut down and advanced setting in PC setting in recovery section. none worked. What did you mean daftykins [01:27] Our department gives us the right to download the enterprise version of Windows8.1 for projects [01:27] I have installed Windows8.1 enterprise in my other laptop in school which is for my other job. It is a Gigabyte notebook and by pressing F2 I can go to BIOS setting! daftykins [01:27] daftykins: there are plenty of legal ways to get enterprise. MSDN, Technet, you're a company [01:28] daftykins: academic alliance [01:28] It is not a company. It is University of Wisconsin-Madison. tgm4883 daftykins [01:28] elisa87: that doesn't have anything to do with the Dell though [01:29] elisa87: I didn't say you were, I was just listing several legit ways of having enterprise [01:29] does this laptop have a legacy boot option? [01:29] elisa87, Well known for their intercultural program and approach. ;) [01:29] legacy has no relevance [01:29] daftykins: what was the way you wanted me to press f12 as you said don't press it during restart? [01:29] elisa87: i typed it already above, i'm not going to type it again to save you scrolling up [01:29] Rave1: yeah my BIOS mode is legacy is that is what you are asking in msinfo32 [01:30] legacy had lots of relavance to boot from usb on some of mine [01:30] Rave1: I don't believe you can boot 8.1 in legacy mode [01:30] sure can [01:30] elisa87: you installed 8 in legacy mode? o0 [01:30] user is asking to boot a live USB freom what I read [01:31] ok I missed that. so by pressing f12 repeatedly you mean I shouldn't put my finger off the f12 button, right?> just to make sure? [01:31] daftykins: I thought 8.1 required UEFI? [01:31] daftykins: I have no idea what I did, I just burn the ISO into a dvd and followed the step! Literally not sure Microsoft has set up for me [01:32] so if you cant boot win 8.1 in legacy how is it I installed on old machine pre UEFI [01:32] tgm4883: newp [01:33] elisa87: sorry that second half doesn't make any sense to me [01:33] I don't approve of my Windows knowlege! Back to Windows after quite a while due to some Intel and Microsoft hardwares!! that is all! haha [01:33] elisa87: quite honestly F12 should give a boot menu on a Dell regardless, use F2 to enter the BIOS instead and have a look around - maybe F12 is disabled [01:34] lots of exclamations! not a lot on topic! [01:34] I'll try and come back and ping. I won't be able to see messages meanwhile! thanks for the help!!!!! === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:43] tgm4883, W8 installs msdos if your setup that way, I'm in it right now. [01:44] err upgraded to W10 actually same file system [01:44] Hello all, I'm trying to install 15.04 (server) on an older Dell PowerSpec 1U rack machine. I've tried both 32 and 64 CD's (and I've confirmed that the machine is an early 64 bit architecture w/ 2 Xeon 64-bit CPUs)... I can boot up to the language selection page, but it doesn't seem to go anywhere after that, as in Enter key doesn't seem to progress to the bootup of the install image. [01:44] Any suggestions? I know the keyboard works, too. [01:45] MadOtis: does it have a slim optical drive? [01:45] grab an older version see that works better older hardware works better with older software [01:45] i assume you used DVDs [01:45] !mini | MadOtis this one might be worth a go [01:45] MadOtis this one might be worth a go: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [01:45] daftykins: Yes, it does. [01:46] why doesn't the ubuntu version of diff in diffutils have the --git flag? [01:46] old version? not compiled with the --git option enabled? not sure.. [01:46] ubotto: I have the server cd image burned. I'll try the download install version... thanks. [01:47] MadOtis, ubottu is a bot [01:48] pepee: Doh! I see that now. Lol. [01:50] MadOtis: you have server, but i suggested mini :) [01:50] (via the bot) [01:53] !mini [01:53] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [01:53] heh i never get why people repeat the factoid trigger [01:54] I'm old and have forgotten how to use IRC. [01:54] :) [01:55] mini.iso burning now. === bubbasaures is now known as wileee [02:08] hhello [02:08] hello everyone [02:08] Damn... same issue with the mini.iso. Does the server install not recognize a USB keyboard? [02:08] hahah [02:08] uhmm nop [02:09] they didnot [02:09] i quit too [02:09] i think i heard about that issue years ago.. so that may be the case... try using the drac to configure it or dig up a ps2 keyboard [02:12] Got it going... BIOS had USB support on without bios support. Once I enabled WITH bios support, its trucking along. Thank you!!! [02:14] Is Ubuntu lighter on resources than windows 8 [02:18] Shed-34046, it all depends on what programs/services you're running on the OS how heavy/light it will be, typically you can make a linux system run lighter than a windows system [02:19] https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ubuntu%20minimum%20requirements vs https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=windows+8+minimum+requirements [02:19] wafflejock I was talking about in general [02:20] I tried to install Memtest86+ using synaptic but it hanged. I had to kill it, then I ran "dpkg --configure -a". What should I do in order to make sure my system is bootable?. [02:21] My laptop has a dual core CPU (intel pentium b960) and 4GB DDR3 ram.. Idk if it was because i just got done with a game on windows and shutdown and tried live usb for 30 minutes but.. My laptop was kinda warm.. [02:21] Maybe i should try it now.. [02:21] brb guys :) [02:21] Shed-34046, well the minimum requirements of ubuntu are about half of that of windows 8 so you can gather what you will from that but they are different systems running different programs and ultimately it depends on those programs how demanding the system is overall on your resources, in my experience it seems faster but you would need to do benchmarking of various tasks to decide scientifically === dfsdfsdf is now known as redditcat [02:30] hey :) [02:31] i'm testing ubuntu and right now it says its using 901.3MiB (23.5%) of 3.7GB is that lower than windows? [02:31] about the same [02:31] windows 10 is around 1gb [02:32] o_o [02:32] on linux you can go lower, much lower [02:32] notaeon how do i find out the temperature of the cpu right now? [02:32] i think i got ~60mb booted into openbox [02:32] can anyone suggest where I can download a vanilla server VirtualBox VDI. [02:32] on windows 10 my computer ran at 31C and my pc couldn't really run windows 10 due to non-compatibility [02:33] shed-34046: about temps, here's wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto [02:34] ram (desktop anyways) prices are falling again anyways [02:35] hi [02:36] hello! [02:36] notaeon right now sensors says physical id 0: +51C high = 80C crit = 85C at crit would my CPU shut down for protection [02:36] not cpu but laptop [02:36] Firt time using IRSSI, trying to figure all out here [02:36] I'm trying to use snort to detect http traffic being forwarded via ssh socks through server. My snort rule http://pastebin.com/easV4v22 === cartucho is now known as Guest20661 [02:37] I tried to install Memtest86+ using synaptic but it hanged. I had to kill it, then I ran "dpkg --configure -a". What should I do in order to make sure my system is bootable?. [02:37] gvpm: #irssi is a useful resource . [02:38] You guys have any good website with search for irc chats? [02:38] shed-34046, yup at critical it should cut off to save the CPU [02:39] searchirc.com gvpm , more on #freenode [02:39] marioxcc, Can you give, if you can what caused the broken boot, what ubuntu release, ? [02:40] or is this just a worry it will boot? [02:40] I need a prebuilt Ubuntu server for VirtualBox. Vanilla if possible. [02:41] so .. mount the iso and install [02:41] I give you prebuilt + backdoor built in as well [02:41] wafflejock right now its seems ubuntu isn't as hot as win8 makes it like usually 60-65C [02:43] Assume my GRUB installation is broken due to a misbehaving Ubuntu installation script, what should I do *in order to fix it* (reporting the bug doesn't fixes it)? [02:43] shed-34046, good to hear, yeah in windows the search indexer has tendency to do a lot of background processing same with the update tools [02:43] marioxcc, Was this the server install I saw earlier? [02:43] marioxcc: reinstall grub? [02:43] and a grub bot link given? [02:44] notaeon: Which commands?. [02:44] wileee: I think that you are confusing me, no, I have not asked about a server install. [02:45] mariorz, It was a simple question, yes or no. ;) [02:45] topic [02:45] !fixgrub [02:45] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [02:46] marioxcc: see above links [02:46] Thanks notaeon [02:48] how would I go about uninstalling ubuntu? [02:48] datahood, install over it or delete it, there is no uninstall. === dan_ is now known as Guest17980 [02:49] datahood, This a boot issue, you will loose the grub boot, unless you have another linux controlling grub there. [02:49] wileee datahood, So you are not able to boot the install media? Have you been here with this before? [02:51] wileee<..yes we tried and tried different things all yesterday...surprise you do not remember our convo [02:52] datahood, I do. [02:52] that is why I ask [02:52] somewhat anyway, seems familiar [02:52] wileee< remember I installed the wrong bit of ubuntu [02:53] wileee< 32 instead of 64 [02:54] wileee< so will deleting the grub solve my problem? [02:54] datahood, Not clearly, I'm an scientific inquiry user, I want the facts. ;) [02:54] wileee< facts like? [02:54] datahood, I suspect I wont be able to help, is all, sorry. [02:55] wilee<< ok..no problem [02:58] test [03:03] service iptables save [03:03] whats the ubuntu equivalent of that [03:03] anybody have any recomendations for a user friendly encryption // I tried multiple softwares in the software center but no real luck [03:04] document encryption or a better full circle solution besides encrytping my entire hard drive [03:08] guess its to vague of a question [03:09] oi [03:12] I have a bit of a question...I have linux installed on sda6 and want to expand the partition. sda4 is a data partition and I have no idea what sda7 is....sda8 is a recovery partition that can go...any advice on the best way to do this? GParted screenshot: http://imgur.com/glb2wYb [03:13] Every time I boot, my screen brighness returns to default. I have not found any threads in the forum about his that deal with 14.04 LTS [03:13] How do I disable this? [03:16] New Link user here...so not much is easy thus far...but I really like the cont you use any cloud based storage Boxcryptor is nice and easy. If you want a premium tool Jetico Bestcrypt would be worth looking into. I am sure there is a ton...but those are all solid no matter which platform you are on. throwing it out there as my first post...hope it helps. I have a lot to learn about running Ubuntu/GNU/Linux [03:17] @Bocephus ^ replied [03:18] what the... [03:19] redrum187, Try this link last post with the 'gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local' command [03:19] redrum187: what do you want it to be? [03:19] maxride: looks like Windows insanity [03:19] maxride: no point looking for sense in it [03:19] wileee: ~20% of max or so by default [03:20] wileee: what link? [03:20] atrois: Thanks....I'm thinking that wiping the drive is probably my best bet.... [03:20] redrum187, Doh https://askubuntu.com/questions/151651/brightness-is-reset-to-maximum-on-every-restart heh sorry [03:20] Cool, thanks I'll give it a read. [03:21] sorry bad typos in my last post...not sure if the form went into space as I was typiing or what. Aplogies. [03:22] firmlyhypervisor, Ubuntu support is all, that is not even close. ;) [03:22] @Bocephus my first choice would be PGP for your encryption...last reply didn't make much sense. [03:23] wileee: it said I did not have gksudo, so I ran "sudo apt-get install gksudo" [03:24] RedRum sudo apt-get install gksu than run gksudo [03:24] > wileee :-0 Sorry man, my keyboard has been up a long time. [03:25] Is "sudo apt-get install gksudo" different than "sudo apt-get install gksu"? [03:25] redrum187, gksu is the base for running gksudo basically, you could run gksu [03:26] redrum187, the gk=graphic [03:26] will gksudo and gksu install the same thing? [03:27] redrum187, It is not the install choice this command is for but to call for a password, and run the file in a graphic shell. [03:28] !gksu [03:28] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [03:29] redrum187, Excellent questions, you want to understand, in the word of Martha Stewart "it is a good thing". ;) [03:30] Thanks. I worry too often I'm not asking the right questions. [03:30] I ran cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness and it printed 1015, I thought the ranges were either 1-10 or 1-100? [03:31] redrum187, It gets easier, here you will recognize the people here everyday if you lurk enough and know whom to follow to learn. [03:31] :) [03:34] redrum187, you don;t run it but put in the opened file and choose for 1-4 I believe for brightness default. WE are really just testing if this will work, it can be removed no harm done, if not working. [03:34] I just decided to run the command at lowest brightness and highest brightness. When in doubt, do tests. I determined my brightness range is from 78 to 7812. Weird. [03:35] redrum187, If this changes the default you will have to tweak it how you like by changing that X value [03:36] Can someone help me. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a usb by running it in a VM. I use the command: "sudo qemu-system-x86_64 /dev/sdb ./Documents/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.so" and get "unable to mount root fs on unkownblock (0,0)" [03:37] SpeakFreely_, Full install? [03:37] wileee, What do you mean? I'm running this on my ubuntu laptop if that's what you're asking [03:38] SpeakFreely_, Just can't follow the issue, and wondering why the vm is all. [03:39] end goal maybe? [03:39] wileee, Oh my end goal is to have a persitent version of ubuntu on a usb [03:39] wileee, following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16988/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-to-a-usb-key-without-using-startup-disk-creator [03:40] SpeakFreely_, easier done from any regular desktop, linux, ms or apple. That is a much harder road is all. [03:41] wileee, care to point me to a tutorial? last one I tried left me with a live cd version instead of an actual instal [03:42] SpeakFreely_, a iso with a persistence is not an actual install, it is still live. [03:42] wileee, oh, well is there a way to do an actual install on a usb? [03:42] actual install meaning from the live..etc [03:42] SpeakFreely_, two media is all olne to boot and install to the other, which is a usb or HD. [03:43] one* [03:43] WildSoft, are you saying creating a live cd, boot from that and then install onto the usb? [03:44] SpeakFreely_, actual install is way to vague here as well, two basic types, iso live, or full install. [03:45] wileee, I guess full install in this case [03:45] it will be horribly slow on a usb [03:45] SpeakFreely_, Cool yeah a disk or usb boot of the live, or from your grub, and install to a usb. [03:45] very slow yeah [03:46] I'm just using it for mining a cryptocoin [03:46] well, don't [03:46] I would follow that advice myself [03:46] ? [03:46] why [03:47] I know the users skill level for one, and the issue as well. [03:47] there probably is a livecd that already can do that, running a full install from usb will be very slow [03:48] Would a livecd be faster or are they both slow in this case? [03:48] livecd is faster [03:49] Would you recommend any tutorials for livecd with persistence? [03:49] !persistent [03:49] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [03:51] thanks [03:55] does usb-creator-gtk usually take awhile? seems to be hanging on 49% [03:55] SpeakFreely_, normal. be patient [03:56] SpeakFreely_, it could do a better job of reporting feedback so it doesn't appear stuck [03:57] Cool thanks, just wanted to restart it if it was messed up [03:59] SpeakFreely_, building the persistent takes a little time, especially if the full 4gigs. [03:59] wileee, I made it 1 GB, going to try the resizing trick it talks about [04:00] SpeakFreely_, not sure what would be resized, How big is the usb? [04:00] wileee, 32 GB [04:00] SpeakFreely_, the casper-rw file resized? [04:01] wileee, yes [04:01] Hi, currently I'm using xrdp to copnnect to a ubuntu computer. It works almost well, but I can't get fixed the keyboard layout issues even after following some tutorials. I have seem some vnc tutorials but they look a mess to setup. Is there some other alternative to remote connection? [04:01] SpeakFreely_, YOu can make a casper-rw partition and use all the usb if you want. [04:04] wileee, I'll prolly just make it 8 GB [04:06] SpeakFreely_, Never heard of resizing the file, sounds like a really bad idea, but that is an opinion, Be careful and remember that casper-rw is not really easily accessible off the live and all your persistence, if damaged or removed it is all gone. === interrobang is now known as pellucid_banana === pellucid_banana is now known as roonie === roonie is now known as pellucid_banana [04:07] wileee, is it right if i have my 1 partition 3.16GB and the 2nd persistence the rest of the usb? [04:07] Hi there, I'm looking to find out what the DE is on trusty tahr? [04:08] friendlylaptop1, ubuntu = unity [04:08] !flavors | friendlylaptop1 [04:08] friendlylaptop1: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu. [04:08] i think it is gnome 2, but I could be wrong. also, where do I find a list of distro's with the DE's? [04:08] nice, thx [04:09] so would ubuntu always be unity then? [04:09] SpeakFreely_, I'm not a big fan of this, but it is either a casper file in the OS or a partition. If you have a partitioned casper, you only need a partition just slightly bigger than the iso, as nothing is saved there. [04:09] I would run light, lxde or lubuntu or openbox as lighter. [04:10] cfhowlett, when I had mint, I was using lxde, right? What would be the benefit of switching to gnome? [04:11] friendlylaptop1, allow me to hijack your question: I'm interested in other DE's. How can I test them easily? simple [04:11] wileee, I see. Hope this works, last time I tried this method it said there was not enough space when I tried updating [04:12] yes, that's EXACTLY what i want to know....:) [04:12] friendlylaptop1, sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kde-plasma-desktop gnome [04:12] friendlylaptop1, then: logout/choose an alternate DE/login and test to your heart's delight [04:12] cfhowlett, will i still be able to switch back to unity? [04:12] yes [04:12] cfhowlett, great, thank you sooooo much!!! [04:12] friendlylaptop1, happy to help. [04:13] SpeakFreely_, That is another issue, you don't have the updates like normal, you will miss security updates likely, it is not really designed to be taking all upgrades. Still just the iso but now with an upgrade script. [04:13] hey [04:13] what's up all? [04:13] SpeakFreely_, I would run a light vm if it were me. [04:14] wileee, will I be able to install gfx card drivers? [04:14] SpeakFreely_, probably, kernels are an issue as I remember. I'm not up on every limitation is all, it can be unstable if messed with enough. [04:15] wileee, alright, well thanks for all the help :) [04:15] SpeakFreely_, You need to travel with this stick? [04:16] to other computers...etc? === gerald is now known as Guest98436 [04:17] wileee, Nah I just don't feel like dual booting with my windows comp, which is where my gfx card is [04:18] SpeakFreely_, Use a vm, you can run both. [04:19] wileee, VMs don't degrade access to a gfx card? [04:20] SpeakFreely_, virtualbox has it's own drivers you will give up ram and some cpu [04:21] wileee, can it access the full amount of RAM on the card though? === khaldrogoxl is now known as khaldrogox [04:22] SpeakFreely_, You split ram off for it, a really light vn a gig will probably do it, not sure though with what you will run. [04:22] vm* [04:22] wileee, are you talking about regular RAM or the gfx card's memory? [04:23] test [04:23] cfhowlett, so I installed them, but now it is asking me to specify a default display manager, with these options: gdm, kdm, or lightdm. which is the one least likely to cause me problems? [04:23]