[00:01] <Smilex> I tried the lowlatency kernel, but it didn't solve my issues, now I want to revert. How do I do that?
[00:03] <TJ-> Smilex: what issues were you trying to solve?
[00:04] <Smilex> TJ-: "Monitoring" I think it's called. Tried to play with some plugins, without latency
[00:04] <TJ-> Smilex: the -lowlatency or -generic kernels can be installed alongside each other, and grub will list them in the boot menu. Removing the -lowlatency package(s) is sufficient
[00:04] <TJ-> Smilex: is that audio related?
[00:04] <Smilex> TJ-: Thanks and yes
[00:06] <TJ-> Smilex: Of course, if you're removing -lowlatency kernel packages make sure the system has the -generic packages installed first... if the system suffers a power-failure with no kernel packages installed it will be 'difficult'
[00:33] <ussher_> Thanks TJ, I've got the monitors working again.  I think when the update happened it updated the nvidia drivers to the newest version which was not compatible with the older of the 2 cards.  I couldn't get NOVEAU working, so reverted the nvidia drivers and im good again.  Thanks for your help.
[00:34] <TJ-> ussher_: That's a pain! My laptop  has to use the legacy 340.76 driver because the internal, and external, GPUs are no longer supported in the 'current' releases
[00:36] <ussher_> my older card needs the 304 drivers.  For me the pain point is that twinview went away somewhere so each screen needs its own x server, before I only needed 2 x servers, now 4 so its a bit slow at times.
[00:36] <ussher_> but they all work, so hey.
[00:39] <TJ-> I work over 4 X screens with KDE.
[00:39] <ussher_> you dont have any issues with stickyness when moving windows around or stickeyness when scrolling long pages?
[07:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:57] <DarkShadow> Hi I am installing Kubuntu 15.04 and I want to make sure i get the catalyst control panel and driver installed. The driver manager is asking which driver to use.  Is there a preferred choice? Should I also click on the "using Processor microcode firmware" radio button? Thanks.
[07:57] <DarkShadow> My video card is a Radeon HD5770
[07:59] <lordievader> DarkShadow: The radeon driver doesn't cut it for you? And yes I would check the CPU microcode checkbox.
[08:04] <DarkShadow> lordievader: I have Kubuntu installed and am doing my first update. When I did driver manager came up asking which driver to use 'fglrx' or xorg-video-ati.. which of those should I use? I feel like I might want 'fglrx-update'.
[08:05] <DarkShadow> 'xserver-xorg-video-ati' is being recommened.
[08:06] <lordievader> That is the closed source one, the xorg-video-ati should already be installed.
[08:06] <lordievader> DarkShadow: Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'?
[08:06] <lordievader> !paste | DarkShadow
[08:07] <DarkShadow> will do.. may take a few.
[08:16] <DarkShadow> By the way. Done with Windows and now live in Linux. Win10 privacy issues ended it for me.
[09:54] <anabain> which is the best gui tool for hardware monitoring?
[09:57] <soee> not usre, but in Plasma there are plasmoids to monitor cpus, hdd, ram etc.
[09:58] <DarkShadow> aka - widgets
[10:25] <anabain> ok, I'll check, thanks
[10:28] <lordievader> anabain: Check out ksysguard.
[10:29] <anabain> TJ, lordievader, do you remember yesterday, about the "failing" drive (I changed my nick) ? I'm not sure it's failing. Seagates tend to report SMART Raw_Read_Error_Rate, but as long as they don't outnumber Hardware_ECC_Recovered things are ok.
[10:30] <lordievader> Still wouldn't trust it...
[10:30] <TJ-> anabain: Something certainly seemed incorrect on that system. If the drive isn't failing then there's a controller or firmware/BIOS issue
[10:30] <anabain> And another thing: these figures have gone down!!!
[10:31] <lordievader> ?
[10:31] <lordievader> What sorcery is this?
[10:32] <TJ-> anabain: If it's a seagate drive did you use their drive test program. That's the authoritative guide to drive health (their public SMART values may not tell the entire story, nor be in line with SMART expectations)
[10:33] <anabain> TJ-, could it be the controller? Last week I lost another identical hdd on this system... I was able to do the backup, fortunately
[10:33] <anabain> No, I haven't tried SeaTools on those drives...
[10:35] <DarkShadow> lordievader: The driver-manager was asking to use the proprietary video driver. I did and is working. Love Kubuntu + plasma 5 :D
[10:36] <lordievader> DarkShadow: Good to hear :D
[10:36] <anabain> TJ-, did you have a look at this yesterday? From dmesg: pastebin.com/aQmU30q3
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:37] <anabain> hi, BluesKaj
[10:37] <TJ-> anabain: Is the controller interface in firmware set to AHCI mode?
[10:37] <BluesKaj> hi anabain
[10:37] <DarkShadow> Do I need dependencies to run 32 bit executables? With Kubuntu?
[10:38] <lordievader> DarkShadow: You should be able to run them just fine.
[10:38] <DarkShadow> K Thanks! :)
[10:38] <anabain> TJ-, I don't know. Is there any way to know without rebooting? Right now the backup is ongoing...
[10:39]  * DarkShadow in love with Kubuntu :)
[10:39] <TJ-> anabain: Yes: "grep -i ahci /var/log/dmesg"
[10:40] <TJ-> DarkShadow: Usually it'll need multi-arch libraries enabling. Check with "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" - you will need to see "i386" to have 32-bit package support
[10:41] <anabain> TJ-, it seems yes:  pastebin.com/ueHN70m2
[10:42] <DarkShadow> TG: Will do. I am developing an MMO and my game did not run and is 32 bit. So I have installed those libs before.
[10:47] <BluesKaj> interesting how a lot of software/games are still 32 bit. It must be costly to convert them to 64
[10:48] <DarkShadow> more like dev tools catching up in my case
[10:49] <anabain> TJ-, anything to worry about?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Wife plays LOTRO  a relatively new game, but iwas dev'd in 32 bit
[10:51] <TJ-> anabain: nothing obvious... but you said yesterday that system has had issues for a while, but you didn't say what kind of issues. But if it has a history then my first aim would be to identify what those are caused by and how to fix or woraround them
[10:53] <DarkShadow> TJ: If you have a link on installing multi-arch libs on Kubuntu 15.04 let me know ;)
[10:56] <anabain> TJ-, the whole story: I upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04. Everything seemed fine, but in one reboot I had problems: first failing drive. I backed up and disconnected the hdd, but kept having issues. I found that if I didn't delete the fstab entry for this hdd the system would keep complaining. OK, I deleted that. Another reboot and everything seemed ok... until I started having problems: black screen with the cursor after logging in.
[11:01] <anabain> TJ-, It could be a video driver issue, but I don't use nvidia (using radeon). Finally, I decided to downgrade to 14.10. I installed 14.04 and upgraded. Everything fine, until I tried to change to static ip via modifying /etc/network/interfaces in order to set up some nfs shared dirs between my box and my wife's
[11:01] <prillian5> yesterday I still had an Icon in dolphin (left side) for network, now it's gone.
[11:01] <prillian5> How can I got it back?
[11:01] <prillian5> It was the section where i could add ftp-connections, webdav ...
[11:04] <anabain> TJ-, Then, kde apps started to fail: dolphin freezes when you click on some dir/file icon, kwrite/kate don't do anything, not even when launched from a terminal.. I thought it was something related to routing and resolving the localhost, but then came the failing hdd hypothesis... until now
[11:08] <BluesKaj> anabain:  most routers allow reserved IP settings (static) for various devices on a LAN and following this tutorial is probly the best one for your situation. I've used it very successfully in the past.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[12:11] <kalib> Hello guys. I´m running a new kubuntu 15.04 machine.. and I´m asking myself.. how can I install flash? I mean, I did install the flashplugin-installer, but then it only works on firefox. Not on chromium. So I tried google. Some sits tells me to install the pepper package, so it will works for chromium, but I saw another page from ubuntu docs telling me that this package is not used anymore, and that I
[12:11] <kalib> should install adobe-flashplugin. So I did it.. removed the flashplugin-installer, and installed this adobe-flashplugin.. firefox works, but chromium not. Any tip?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> kalib:  install google-chrome instead of chromium , it contains it's own embedded flash which works fine
[12:15] <kalib> BluesKaj: thanks for your answer, but that´s not a solution. :/
[12:15] <kalib> I want to use chromium, always used it.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> kalib:  you won't be able to tell the difference and all your bookmarks and settings etc from chromium will be autotransferred
[12:17] <kalib> for real? didn´t know it..
[12:17] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:17] <kalib> so.. just aptitude install google-chrome?
[12:17] <kalib> without removing chromium?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> you try them side by side
[12:18] <kalib> ok
[12:19] <kalib> BluesKaj: not on reps, right?!
[12:20] <kalib> aptitude didn´t find it
[12:20] <BluesKaj> you have download the deb file from the chrome site
[12:21] <kalib> let me add the ppa..
[12:21] <kalib> download the deb? I was thinking about add the ppa from google..
[12:21] <kalib> so I can receive updates, etc..
[12:21] <kalib> wouldn´t be better?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> no need for a ppa , it's deb file it will update with the rest of your packages
[12:21] <kalib> ok
[12:21] <ahoneybun> I use chromium just fine
[12:22] <kalib> ahoneybun: chromium doesn´t run netflix..
[12:22] <ahoneybun> right
[12:22] <kalib> BluesKaj: I´ll download it.. thanks.
[12:22] <ahoneybun> I know firefox won't
[12:22]  * ahoneybun has a PS3 for that
[12:24] <kalib> yep
[12:24] <BluesKaj> ran netflix on chrome once , using my daughter's pw ..netflix isn't worth it for me , i found one movie out of a hundred that I might watch
[12:26] <kalib> BluesKaj: didn´t work as you said.. installed, and I´m running it right now.. but it didn´t bring my theme, bookmarks, etc..
[12:26] <kalib> I´ll try to copy the content of my .cconfig/chromium/* to my .config/chrome..
[12:26] <BluesKaj> kaj it takes about a minute after you sign in
[12:26] <kalib> ops... .config/google-chrome/
[12:26] <BluesKaj> kalib: ^
[12:27] <kalib> sigin?
[12:27] <kalib> didn´t use to sig-in on chromium..
[12:27] <kalib> I have this configs local...
[12:27] <BluesKaj> kalib:  no gmail accty ?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> acct
[12:28] <kalib> yes, I have..  but that´s not what I´m saying..
[12:28] <kalib> anyway.. let me try it.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> well if you have a gmail acct then a sign in should show up in chrome
[12:29] <kalib> this is a new installation.. I backed up all my files before re-installing it.. and backed-up .config/chromium/*
[12:30] <kalib> after installing it, I just restored those files.. and there was chromium as it was before..themes, bookmarks, etc..
[12:30] <ahoneybun> your google account syncs everything
[12:31] <kalib> let me try... because I have more than one google account..
[12:31] <kalib> I mean, one gmail and one on my domain (that uses google apps)
[12:32] <BluesKaj> kalib:  check ~/.config/google-chrome/
[12:32] <kalib> ok.. what for?
[12:33] <BluesKaj> to make sure
[12:33] <kalib> tried my first account.. on my domain.. nothing happened..
[12:34] <kalib> let me try to login to @gmail account
[12:35] <kalib> again, nothing happened..
[12:35] <kalib> as I said, I never used to login on my browser..
[12:35] <kalib> that´s why always liked chromium instead of chrome..
[12:35] <kalib> well, I think I´ll just manual import my bookmarks from chromium
[12:35] <kalib> and that´s it..
[12:36] <BluesKaj> it should still sync your settings , unless chromium needs to be removed
[12:47] <kalib> BluesKaj: yeah... anyway.. exported and imported.. now I have my bookmarks.
[12:47] <kalib> thanks ;]
[12:50] <BluesKaj> kalib:  netflix should work and flash sites should as wel , but don't rely on youtube to test flash since most of the content runs in HTML5
[12:54] <kalib> BluesKaj: yes, got it.. already tested on adobe site. :p
[12:54] <kalib> everything working.. thanks
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ok good
[13:43] <Guest36421> Hello.I think i shot my system. KDE wont boot anymore, and i need to restart lightdm manually at boot. Moreover my audio wont work anymore
[13:43] <Guest36421> Can someone help me fix this?
[13:44] <Guest36421> i reinstalled lightdm. KDE booting screen will stp and darken at thrid symbol if it helps. in log i found something suspicious about ibux
[13:44] <Guest36421> ibus
[13:44] <Guest36421> but cant work with it - too noob
[13:47] <Guest36421> it may be a driver issue too, for i find : XvScreenInit: screen devPrivates ptr non-NULL before init
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Guest36421:  which kubuntu version            /
[14:04] <anubis_> Im using kubuntu 14.04
[14:04] <anubis_> shot my kde or soundor graphics driver, im not sure about it yet
[14:05] <anubis_> suspicious logs in /var/log/lightdm
[14:05] <anubis_> but im too stupid to fix it
[14:28] <regedit_> does this channel hava alog?
[14:28] <regedit_> *a log
[14:28] <lordievader> regedit_: Yes.
[14:29] <lordievader> regedit_: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[14:29] <regedit_> lordievader: cool! thanks
[17:13] <anabain> BluesKaj, for the nfs part, the doc you said is fine (SettingUpnfshowto), but that's the second half of the story. The first one: how do I set up a static IP *without* breaking networking in kubuntu, preferably via /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> anabain: afaik you don't need to use static IP for NFS, i don't recall seeing that requirement in the tutorial, once your router assigns IPs to devices on a LAN  they won't change unless you do so manually
[17:17] <audreeliss> Why disappear after a few minutes wifi connection? On Xubuntu and Lubuntu will not happen. How to solve it?
[17:22] <lordievader> It is very usefull to use a static ip for an nfs host. That way you can throw the mounts in fstab.
[17:23] <anabain> BluesKaj, right, then let's forget the nfs stuff: how do I set up a static IP *without* breaking networking in kubuntu (I mean network managers, and the like)
[17:26] <lordievader> anabain: The problem yesterday was that NM wasn't running, right?
[17:27] <anabain> NM? excuse me
[17:28] <lordievader> Network manager.
[17:30] <anabain> lordievader, the problem was that after a fresh install-upgrade of 14.04 to 14.10 and setting the static ip via /etc/network/interfaces, kde apps stopped working: kwrite or kate didn't show up, nothing appeared if launched from the terminal, the K button takes about 20 seconds to pop its menu, dolphin freezes when you click some icon...
[17:31] <lordievader> Ah, were you the other one with the Seagate?
[17:31] <anabain> yeah, I changed my nick
[17:31] <anabain> then came the failing hdd hypothesis
[17:32] <lordievader> Ah, right. Did you change anything about your disk(s)?
[17:33] <anabain> right now I'm finishing the  backup (~20 hours), so I haven't touched anything so far
[17:33] <anabain> everything seems fine, rsync has not reported any problems
[17:36] <anabain> the funny thing about the hdd is that Seagates report Raw_Read_Error_Rate and Hardware_ECC_Recovered, and as long as both figures are the same, there's no problem. More diversion: these figures seem to go down or reset or something like that! Today I'm getting lower numbers than yesterday.
[17:37] <lordievader> Strange stuff.
[17:37] <anabain> lordievader, reallocated sectors and current pending sectors are to 0
[17:38] <lordievader> I know, but still. I do not trust drives with read errors. Especially when things simply do not show up.
[17:38] <lordievader> anabain: Does vmstat 1'
[17:38] <anabain> lordievader, TJ- suggested using Seagate Tools, which I'll do when I just finish backing up.
[17:39] <lordievader> anabain: Does 'vmstat 1' show a high io wait time (don't do that now, you'll just see rsync)
[17:42] <anabain> lordievader, ok, then I wait until rsync finishes and to check 'vmstat 1' ?
[18:48] <thisperson> In Ubuntu Unity you press Shift + Alt + Ctrl and arrow key to move the active window to another desktop. How do you set that up in Kubuntu?
[18:48] <thisperson> I setup a lot of things, but haven't found that one yet
[19:00] <krise> Problem, I started my laptop this morning, it asks password on log in screen, after i insert password, it starts loading and returns to log in screen.My system is set up so it dont ask the password at start up
[19:00] <krise> what might be the problem
[19:01] <krise> password anyway is right
[19:13] <BluesKaj> krise:  try using the recovery kernel in grub, then choose networking, then repair broken packages in the dialog
[19:14] <krise> how can i do that BluesKaj
[19:15] <BluesKaj> hold the shift key down right after the post screen when booting, grub should appear, then do the above
[19:18] <krise> ok , im in gnu grub screen
[19:20] <BluesKaj> choose the next kernel below the default it shoulr show a couple of others after clicking on it, then choose the recovery kernel
[19:28] <krise> Sorry BluesKaj im little confused. .First line on this screen is Minimal BASH like line editing is supported.For the first word.TAB lists possible command comletions,Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions.And then next line is grub>
[19:30] <BluesKaj> sorry I didn't mean /etc/default/grub , I meantn the grub bootloader itself
[19:31] <ovidiu-florin> Kubuntu Podcast Episode 3 has started. Join us here: http://youtu.be/uG40fJzlJiM
[19:31] <krise> holding down shift wont do anything
[19:32] <lost_and_afraid> Hi, I just upgraded Kubuntu 14.04 to 15.04 and mostly like it a lot but I don't seem to be able to resize my kicker / kickoff menu. Is this because I did an upgrade and have a strange setting?
[19:36] <ovidiu-florin> Kubuntu Podcast Episode 3 has started. Join us here: http://youtu.be/uG40fJzlJiM
[19:39] <BluesKaj> krise:  sorry , guess I've forgotten howw to prevent grub from autobooting into the login page, but you could do ctl+alt+F1-F6 and login to the VT/TTY then update and upgrade, which might fix your problem, then startx or reboot
[19:46] <BluesKaj> krise:  are ou pressing the shift key immediately after the BIOS//Post page?
[19:47] <krise> yes
[19:47] <BluesKaj> don't wait even one second
[19:47] <BluesKaj> you have to hold it down
[19:49] <krise> yes i did
[19:50] <BluesKaj> well the try the alternative I suggested with ctl+alt+F1 to F6
[19:57] <krise> ok, now im on screen where is ubuntu, advanced options for ubuntu, system setup
[19:58] <BluesKaj> choose advanced options
[19:58] <Vidiot-X> Howdy. I am looking to install the Radeon 'catalyst' drivers for Kubuntu. I would like to have access to the catalyst control center. Does anyone have a link/guide on how to install ATI catalyst drivers fro ATI? Thanks.
[19:59] <krise> now here is list ubuntu with linux 3.19.0-15 to 25
[20:00] <Vidiot-X> By the way Windows user since 3.1. Done with Windows and Windows 1o EULA (privacy). :D
[20:01] <krise> 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25
[20:02] <BluesKaj> krise:  choose the kernel that calls itself recovery
[20:02] <krise> all of thems have this option
[20:02] <BluesKaj> Vidiot-X:  look for fglrx in the package-manager
[20:03] <BluesKaj> then choose the 25 recovery, krise
[20:03] <krise> now im in rwcovery menu
[20:05] <Vidiot-X> BluesKaj: Already have them installed 'fglrx' . I did the fglrx-update.. but no 'ATI' control center/panel (were would it be in Kubuntu).
[20:05] <krise> resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[20:06] <BluesKaj> Vidiot-X:  fglrx-amdcccle
[20:06] <BluesKaj> krise:  dpkg
[20:06] <dougl> Vidiot-X, did you check settings? lemme check where my nvidia crap hides.
[20:07] <BluesKaj> dougl:  he's using ati/amd
[20:07] <dougl> just thot it may be in the same place
[20:07] <Vidiot-X> BluesKaj: would I do ' fglrx-amdcccle' through console?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> Vidiot-X:  I think so
[20:08] <krise> installed some packeges, resume to normal boot ?
[20:08] <dougl> lol
[20:09] <BluesKaj> krise: yes
[20:09] <Vidiot-X> BlueKaj: I'll look up 'fglrx-amdcccle' and see whats up. Thanks.
[20:09] <dougl> BluesKaj, don't forget those errands you mentioned - lol
[20:10] <krise> now i have blank screen
[20:14] <krise> some error poped up, Executable: plasmashell PID: 1736 Signal: Aborted (6)
[20:36] <BluesKaj> krise which graphics gpu?
[20:38] <whiteda> Please advise - I am running kubuntu 14.04.3 on an HP Pavilion laptop - after the last update it starts up in command line no graphics - I think there were nvidia updates that may be the problem.  do I have to remove nvidia?  or is there configuration that needs to be updated for nvidia?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> whiteda:  run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after the normal update and upgrade
[20:42] <whiteda> has 14.04 LTS been replaced?
[20:42] <soee_> woth reading guys: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-distro-packagers/2015-August/000088.html
[20:43] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade just upgrades kernel packages/modules  not the OS
[20:44] <whiteda> thanks I will try it
[20:46] <Vidiot-X> soee_: AMD  here :)
[20:48] <Vidiot-X> AMD and Kubuntu 15.04 running very nice here BTW.
[21:08] <whiteda> BluesKaj: ran update, ugrade, then dist-upgrade and rebooted - still nothing but command line
[21:10] <whiteda> I am tempted to back up my important files and then reinstall kkubuntu
[22:04] <anabain> What is the right way to rebuild kde stuff for a user? (I mean, what should I remove, keep, etc., to get fresh kde settings for one existing user)
[22:06] <bprompt> anabain:   w0t?
[22:07] <bprompt> anabain:    all kde settings are at ~/.kde  if that's what you mean
[22:07] <anabain> yes, but everywhere you are told no to remove this dir
[22:19] <lordievader> With kde5 they are in ~/.config/kde (and a couple other folders in ~/.config), usually a good idea to rename rather than delete.
[22:22] <anabain> ok, thanks
[22:28] <Vidiot-X> Coming from Window 7 and leaving Windows forever my experience with Kubuntu has been awesome. Well done!
[22:32] <ahoneybun> thanks Vidiot-X :)