| darkxst | I have ubuntu-gnome-bugs team set as bug supervisor team for ubuntu-gnome project, however members of this team can't access private bugs in the project, is this intended behavious | 08:00 |
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| darkxst | I'm pretty certain it did used to work in the past | 08:01 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: Check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+sharing | 08:06 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, that shows me that user can only see his own private bugs | 08:11 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, bruce pieterson is a member of the bug supervisor team, and should be able to see all private bugs? | 08:12 |
| darkxst | or are you saying I have to manually set this on each user? | 08:12 |
| cjwatson | William might correct me, but I don't think bug supervisor implies sharing private bugs. But on +sharing you can share all private bugs with that whole team. | 08:20 |
| cjwatson | (and private security, I guess) | 08:21 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, oh ok | 08:25 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, except, teams do seem to appear on the sharing page? | 08:26 |
| wgrant | darkxst: As Colin says, bug supvervisors can't implicitly see privatebugs -- they can only set importance etc. | 10:28 |
| wgrant | Until 2012 they were subscribed to new private bugs in some configurations, but +sharing replaces that functionality. | 10:28 |
| darkxst | wgrant, ok, but is ther some way to set that? given teams don't appear to show on the sharing page | 10:31 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: "Share with someone" and then you can pick a team | 10:32 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, ok | 10:32 |
| cjwatson | It's a javascript-only operation I think | 10:32 |
| cjwatson | So if you have stuff disabled in your browser I guess that might explain why you didn't notice it? | 10:33 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, me that won't take ubuntu-gnome-bugs, but it will accept our other teams | 10:34 |
| darkxst | s/me/meh/ | 10:35 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: really? works for me with a different project on qastaging | 10:36 |
| cjwatson | and ubuntu-gnome-bugs is an exclusive team (restricted), so it should work | 10:36 |
| darkxst | I cannot add ubuntu-gnome-bugs to ubuntu-gnome sharing page | 10:37 |
| cjwatson | screenshot? | 10:37 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, it just says "No items matched "ubuntu-gnome-bugs" | 10:37 |
| darkxst | I can get a screenshot if you really, but need dinner first | 10:38 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/ubuntu-gnome-bugs.png | 10:39 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, can you try on ubuntu-gnome project? be back in half or so | 10:40 |
| cjwatson | Huh, indeed ... | 10:41 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: Oh, that's because ubuntu-gnome-bugs already has stuff shared with it | 10:47 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: this is all somewhat unhelpful UI, sorry, but if you go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+sharing?orderby=&memo=[%22Tariq%22%2C%20%22tariq-abusheikh%22]&start=1275 then search for ubuntu-gnome-bugs and use the + icon there, you should be able to sort it out | 10:47 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, ok that should be sorted now, but why does it take some foo link to get teams showing up on the sharing page! | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: well, I found that by paging through the list until I found ubuntu-gnome-bugs | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: but this is certainly bug-worthy, it's pretty confusing | 10:56 |
| darkxst | ok, maybe I just missed it, it a simple filter would help, alot! | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | indeed | 10:57 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, just double checked, when I directly go via the +sharing link there are no entries starting with U | 11:07 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+sharing and press Next 17 times | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | it's sorted A-Z then a-z it seems | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | definitely there but this is undoubtedly a pain | 11:09 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, oj that would do it, I pressed last, and then back until I got U | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | you perhaps got to u rather than U | 11:10 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, yes, aparently u, is after U | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | and it's sorted by displayname rather than name | 11:10 |
| cjwatson | (which is arguable) | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | I tend to prefer sorting this kind of thing by name | 11:11 |
| darkxst | and I wouldnt care, if there was a filter ;) | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | quite | 11:12 |
| darkxst | you want me to file a bug? or are you on it? | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | please file a bug, I'm firefighting something else | 11:15 |
| darkxst | cjwatson, bug 1481717, its short, I'm hungry and gone now | 11:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1481717 in Launchpad itself "There is no search filter on project sharing page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481717 | 11:21 |
| cjwatson | darkxst: thanks | 11:22 |
| djjeff | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211257553/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.obs-studio_0.11.1-197~trusty_BUILDING.txt.gz | 11:49 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: that implies that your build-dependencies can't all be concurrently installed; probably something broken in that PPA | 11:56 |
| cjwatson | or its dependencies | 11:56 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: this build was nearly a month ago though, and things look installable now. Have you considered just retrying? | 12:02 |
| djjeff | its not my PPA its obs-studio | 12:03 |
| dobey | you should contact the owner of the PPA if you have a problem with the contents of a PPA | 12:04 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: generally you should do ... what dobey just said; but I've retried those builds for you | 12:04 |
| djjeff | thank you | 12:04 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: ... and they still fail. Please contact the maintainer of the PPA. | 12:05 |
| djjeff | they have their channel on Quakenet #obsproject | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | OK, feel free to ask there, but we aren't going to :) | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | There are a *lot* of PPAs hosted on Launchpad, we don't take responsibility for all of them building cleanly | 12:05 |
| djjeff | is there a new build log? | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | A maintainer of the PPA can come to us for help if there's something that they can't fix that seems to be an infrastructure problem | 12:06 |
| djjeff | does it fail because of qtbase5-dev ? | 12:06 |
| dobey | (or for the version of ubuntu you might use) | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | Yes, but it's basically the same. https://launchpad.net/~obsproject/+archive/ubuntu/obs-studio/+build/7637229 | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | I don't know why it's failing, somebody will have to track it down | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | apt doesn't give very helpful error messages when something deep in the stack is uninstallable | 12:07 |
| dobey | if it's for wily, and depends on wily-proposed, and you're building c++ stuff, there is a very high probability of failure at the moment, due to gcc-5 transition | 12:07 |
| cjwatson | dobey: this isn't wily, please don't introduce confusion | 12:07 |
| djjeff | faruton on quakenet is the maintainer of this PPA | 12:14 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: don't tell us, ask them | 12:15 |
| djjeff | annoying they do not use freenode | 12:15 |
| dobey | comlpain to them about it, not us :) | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | they'll have got mail notifications of the failure too | 12:15 |
| djjeff | I have spent almost 1 hour in their channel on quakenet and gotten nowhere | 12:16 |
| djjeff | it builds for utopic and vivid just fine | 12:17 |
| djjeff | why would trusty be any diff | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | I don't know, could be something in their PPA, could be something in the other random PPA they depend on, could be that build-dependencies need to be subtly different in trusty for some reason | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | they are welcome to come to us if they can't work it out, but we can't fix their builds for them | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | certainly not without their involvement | 12:19 |
| cjwatson | if they come to us I would be happy to discuss the problem with them and help figure it out | 12:22 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: The reason is mysterious, but changing "libgl-dev" to "libgl1-mesa-dev | libgl-dev" in Build-Depends is good practice anyway, and appears to fix this problem | 12:37 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: Please pass that on to the PPA maintainer | 12:37 |
| djjeff | did it build? | 12:37 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: It fixed the build-dependency installation in my local test rig. I cannot apply it to that PPA myself | 12:38 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: That's why I'm asking you to pass it on to the PPA maintainer, since apparently you have contact with them | 12:39 |
| djjeff | hardly | 12:39 |
| cjwatson | More than I do | 12:39 |
| djjeff | as i said they are in #obsproject on quakenet | 12:39 |
| cjwatson | I've given you the exact fix to apply | 12:39 |
| cjwatson | You're apparently already there, you could just copy and paste what I'm saying | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | Otherwise I'm done | 12:40 |
| djjeff | I have | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | OK, so that should be good once they apply that change then | 12:41 |
| djjeff | I may just reply to his thread of obsproject forums | 12:41 |
| cjwatson | Thanks for passing that on | 12:42 |
| djjeff | replying directly to | 12:43 |
| djjeff | https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/ubuntu-14-04-14-10-15-04-ppa-installation-instructions.16495/ | 12:43 |
| dobey | patience is the key. or self-directed problem solving. | 12:43 |
| djjeff | cjwatson: do you have a working .deb on your local test rig? | 12:43 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: no, I didn't run it through that far, and didn't particularly want to run untrusted code on this test rig since it isn't properly sandboxed | 12:44 |
| djjeff | untrusted? is it not open source? | 12:44 |
| cjwatson | that doesn't make it trusted | 12:44 |
| cjwatson | anyone can upload anything at all to a PPA | 12:44 |
| djjeff | can I create a PPA for myself? | 12:45 |
| cjwatson | sure | 12:45 |
| djjeff | that would be awesome! | 12:45 |
| cjwatson | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 12:45 |
| cjwatson | I mean, you can trust what you like, obviously, but I hope you'll respect me being cautious about running stuff without proper sandboxing on my laptop with close-to-superuser privileges on Launchpad and Ubuntu :) | 12:47 |
| djjeff | your test rig is not sandboxed? | 12:48 |
| djjeff | heh | 12:48 |
| wgrant | darkxst, cjwatson: Ah, yes, I'm not sure why the person picker on +sharing doesn't just pretend you clicked the (+) icon next to the person if it's already in the list. | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | djjeff: I could put more effort into making it so, but it wasn't necessary for just testing out the build-dependency bits. | 12:49 |
| djjeff | ok cjwatson I created a thread and quoted you in it | 12:57 |
| djjeff | https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/obs-studio-14-04-trusty-lts-launchpad-ppa.34271/ | 12:57 |
| djjeff | oh its awaiting moderation | 12:58 |
| cjwatson | thanks. | 12:58 |
| djjeff | the PPA maintainer is online now | 14:03 |
| djjeff | he was confused that you can use "or" in build depends | 14:04 |
| dobey | djjeff: you don't need to inform us of the general ongoings of a different channel on a different network. :) | 14:05 |
| djjeff | no clue why he wont just join here | 14:05 |
| djjeff | its his PPA not mine | 14:05 |
| cjwatson | are they deconfused now? | 14:06 |
| djjeff | I hope so.... I really want this to be dealt with so I can go on with my day | 14:06 |
| djjeff | and maybe get some sleep soon | 14:06 |
| djjeff | I might just turn on netflix and crawl into bed I am exhausted now | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | generally speaking, when build-depending on a virtual package (as libgl-dev is), it's a good idea to specify a preferred "real" alternative | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | so libgl1-mesa-dev | libgl-dev says "preferably libgl1-mesa-dev, but in a pinch, anything that provides libgl-dev will do" | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | I haven't worked out why that unconfuses apt in this case, but like I say, it's a good idea anyway | 14:08 |
| dobey | cjwatson: was something else pulling in part of the lts-utopic or lts-vivid xorg stack? i think those create some dependency confusion with the virtual packages; i had some issues there when installing the lts-utopic stack on my trusty machine for runtime. | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | I don't think so, but it's possible | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | I didn't keep the log | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | faruton: hi, thanks for joining. I'm not sure how much was relayed to you? | 14:12 |
| faruton | Yeah, everything pertinent I believe. Appreciate the help regarding this | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | dobey: it's certainly possible that apt went in that direction by default and needed prompting | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | it tends not to backtrack, because things get NP-complete that way | 14:13 |
| djjeff | ok he joined now I can /part and get on with my day thanks again cjwatson for your help | 14:15 |
| faruton | Apparently I was too stubborn to actually just ask about this issue, rather than declare 14.04 unfit and shove it under the carpet. Waiting on jenkins to finish the release | 14:15 |
| faruton | Thanks jeff | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | faruton: heh, easy to do. It wasn't an obvious problem | 14:32 |
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| faruton | cjwatson: That appears to have fixed it, thanks! | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | faruton: excellent | 15:36 |
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| mwhudson | how do you use ubuntu-archive-tools/copy-package to copy from proposed? | 21:15 |
| cjwatson | mwhudson: --from-suite foo-proposed | 21:15 |
| mwhudson | cjwatson: thanks | 21:22 |
| mwhudson | oh and --to-suite=foo for a ppa | 21:25 |
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