[01:46] <OerHeks> why .. does a chicken cross the internet .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dst_ra-AgH0
[02:13] <wileee> funny fozziebear, heh, saw it before loosing conection
[04:39] <wileee> geez moron user espousing garbage
[06:58] <wafflejock> wileee, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/3133/113128-163181-bart-simpson.jpg good thing no one has invented an RPC strangulation bot
[06:59] <wileee> heh
[07:00] <cfhowlett> http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bd/ce/ce/bdceceb6d7d73fa9af35f72556961920.jpg
[07:02] <wileee> lol
[07:02] <wafflejock> hah nice
[07:02] <cfhowlett> working of the Force Choke bot now ...
[07:33] <tintedwindows> dos anyone play Illarion here?
[07:33] <tintedwindows> or quake 2?
[07:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:04] <tintedwindows> blah
[08:06] <ObrienDave> blah blah blah
[10:07] <EriC^^> hey TJ-
[10:07] <EriC^^> i just installed win10
[10:07] <EriC^^> it's running super hot though fan is on full speed
[10:07] <TJ-> Was it a joy ?
[10:07] <EriC^^> well not really, it is supposed to pick up the key from the bios, it asked for it during the install and it wouldn't accept it
[10:08] <EriC^^> it looks decent enough though, but i can't use it, the fan turns on all the way and temps are 90+
[10:08] <TJ-> Does the PC use non-standard interfaces to the thermal monitor and fan control? If so, the OS likely requires system/mobo specific driver intelligence
[10:08] <EriC^^> i think it was actually heating up
[10:09] <EriC^^> not just the fan, cause i got into ubuntu and the temps were 90+ then it started coolign down and fans turned off
[10:09] <TJ-> That sounds like an ACPI issue, with the CPU not being put into temporary sleep C3 mode when idle
[10:09] <EriC^^> cpu usage is normal though in task manager, but it said the disk usage was 99% even though there wasn't much below
[10:10] <TJ-> I was about about to say run powertop on it... silly me, it's Windows :D
[10:10] <EriC^^> :D
[10:10] <TJ-> I'd think the requirement is for the mobo/system specific drivers... maybe there are some for Win 8.x or even win 7 that might work
[10:11] <TJ-> I know AMD used to provide their own chipset specific packages too, that's another possibility
[10:11] <EriC^^> i see
[10:12] <wileee> upgraded to W10 couple of days ago runs cool and well.
[10:12] <TJ-> It certainly sounds like the CPU isn't going into C3 sleep when idle
[10:12] <EriC^^> hp site says it should upgrade to win10 fine *shrug*
[10:12] <TJ-> It could also be that it isn't frequency-scaling too
[10:14] <EriC^^> it started during the install TJ- , in case that matters
[10:14] <EriC^^> half way through the install the fan went bazerk and stayed that way
[10:14] <wileee> time for water cooling, heh
[10:15] <EriC^^> lol
[10:15] <EriC^^> it's an i7 btw
[10:15] <TJ-> EriC^^: According to superuser.com the system might have this tool: "powercfg -energy"
[10:15] <EriC^^> bought in 2014
[10:15] <wileee> I read earlier that setting up a water cooler is half way between running linux and speaking klingon
[10:16] <TJ-> See https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc748940%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
[10:16] <TJ-> Water coolers are fine if there are no leaks... I'd rather use mineral oil in it though
[10:17] <wileee> I was just curious how it's done, to much slack time here
[10:17] <EriC^^> :D
[10:17] <EriC^^> ill brb
[10:23] <TJ-> wileee: coolers are great in principle but the problem is often the bulkiness of the fittings and pipework. For many mobos and cases there isn't a lot of room to begin with and the radius of turns of the pipes makes for difficulties in finding a comfortable fit
[10:43] <EriC^^_> hey TJ-
[10:43] <EriC^^_> i was setting up the tethering thing for the internet
[10:49] <EriC^^> hi TJ- i had to boot into ubuntu, temps were reaching 102'c
[10:50] <TJ-> ouch
[10:52] <EriC^^> TJ-: http://explosive.bshellz.net/energy-report.html
[10:52] <EriC^^> that's the report the command gave
[10:52] <EriC^^> it mentions some acpi and driver errors
[10:55] <EriC^^> i really like win10, this sucks
[10:56] <EriC^^> could it be i need to download the amd graphics driver?
[20:34] <EriC^^> hey daftykins
[20:34] <daftykins> o/
[20:34] <daftykins> greetings
[20:35] <EriC^^> o/
[20:35] <EriC^^> did you get win10 activated?
[20:35] <daftykins> yeah it was fine when i powered on on the 30th, their activation servers were just getting hammered on release day :D
[20:36] <EriC^^> oh ok cool
[20:36] <EriC^^> i installed it, but it didn't accept my key
[20:36] <wileee> mine was a couple days later with no key issues
[20:36] <daftykins> EriC^^: which key was that?
[20:36] <EriC^^> i read that you have to upgrade for it to work
[20:36] <daftykins> you have to do an upgrade atop 7 or 8 to convert your existing sadly
[20:36] <EriC^^> the key i pulled out from the bios for win8
[20:37] <daftykins> ah yes that won't go in, you'll have to install 8 then upgrade
[20:37] <EriC^^> there's a rumor that if you upgrade you can then fresh install, dunno though
[20:37] <daftykins> yep i did clean installs immediately after
[20:37] <EriC^^> anyways it was overheating like crazy, temps at 100'c
[20:37] <daftykins> works a treat :) just skip the key entry pages and it works out fine
[20:38] <daftykins> o0 CPU?
[20:38] <wileee> you can with a double install and the correct key, looks like an upgrade, or in W7 and 8 you could do a config tweak
[20:38] <OerHeks> like this EriC^^ ? http://imgur.com/gallery/PbiZ6ok
[20:38] <OerHeks> :-D
[20:38] <EriC^^> lol
[20:40] <EriC^^> i tried setting the amd driver to battery saving, it lowered the temps to 80-90
[20:41] <EriC^^>  TJ- had me run a command for energy it gave this report http://explosive.bshellz.net/energy-report.html
[20:41] <EriC^^> most of them went away after upgrading drivers except for the last 3 or so
[20:41] <wileee> EriC^^, just as a reference,  http://winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media-128512
[20:42] <EriC^^> anyways i reinstalled win8 cause you can't customize it without activating it and stuff so i'll try upgrading this time
[20:42] <TJ-> EriC^^: Impressive! "Average Utilization (%) 	4572646.00"
[20:43] <EriC^^> lol
[20:44] <wileee> I did use a W10 iso for my upgrade, had to do some cleanup to get there, downloaded it while scrubbing the os
[20:44] <TJ-> I found out today from Nvidia engineers that the typical operating temperature at idle for the Quadro NVS420 is 45C ... it's been running at 70C+ for a while and needing manual fan-control intervention.
[20:44] <EriC^^> learned some dos commands today :>
[20:45] <daftykins> not just bad TIM or blocked fans?
[20:46] <TJ-> So the workbench now has the RasPi+LCD+RF signal detector, laptop + mini-PCIe SSD testbed, the PCBs out of the failed CDU, the NVS420 with heatsink stripped off ... anyone want to take on some of my projects!?
[20:47] <TJ-> daftykins: No... I'd previously replaced the thermal pastes with no improvement. The problem I had was Nvidia didn't publish the typical/max operating temps so I had to chase them down with their engineers
[20:50] <TJ-> I've got some copper shims arriving tomorrow, which should help. The heatsinks don't have great mating with the heat sources, especially for the RAM ICs
[21:43] <OerHeks> pom pom pom