[12:02] <cmaloney> Morning
[12:11] <_stink_> yo
[12:17] <cmaloney> How goes?
[12:18] <rick_h_> party party!
[12:18] <rick_h_> a.k.a. everything is broken
[12:18] <cmaloney> rick_h_: that sucks
[12:18] <rick_h_> naw, it'll gte fixed
[12:18] <rick_h_> get that is
[12:18] <cmaloney> Yeah, but until then it sucks. :)
[12:19] <rick_h_> how goes things down south?
[12:19] <cmaloney> Doing well
[12:19] <rick_h_> pyohio go off awesomely?
[12:19] <cmaloney> just wrapping up things with $client
[12:19] <brousch> PyOhio was excellent
[12:19] <cmaloney> Last data load
[12:19] <rick_h_> woot
[12:19] <rick_h_> on both accounts
[12:19] <cmaloney> Yeah, PyOhio was really good
[12:20] <cmaloney> Mike Pirnat asked how you were
[12:20] <brousch> Watch the K Lars Lohn talk if nothing else
[12:20] <cmaloney> as did Eric F. (not attempting to spell name correctly)
[12:20] <rick_h_> yea, :( second year in a row missing
[12:21] <cmaloney> Well, Mike P. missed last year so it's all good
[12:21] <cmaloney> You're allowed one missed year. After that Eric starts hunting you down.
[12:21] <cmaloney> ;)
[12:21] <rick_h_> hah
[12:22] <brousch> He talked to me about a PyMI conference within 5 minutes of my arrival
[12:22] <cmaloney> brousch: I think he gave up with me
[12:22] <rick_h_> hah!
[12:22] <rick_h_> he never gives up
[12:22] <cmaloney> Mentioned he needed a reason to come up to Michigan.
[12:22] <cmaloney> a good reason
[12:22] <rick_h_> beer not enough? wtf
[12:23] <cmaloney> Apparently noyt
[12:23] <cmaloney> they have our beer at Meijer
[12:23] <cmaloney> who knew?
[12:23] <brousch> They have Meijer?
[12:23] <cmaloney> They do
[12:23] <cmaloney> in Bowling Green at least
[12:23] <cmaloney> I used their restroom
[12:23] <brousch> Well shoot, what's left?
[12:23] <cmaloney> National Coney
[12:23] <brousch> Beaches!
[12:24] <brousch> On a lake that doesn't catch fire and sprout toxic blooms
[12:24] <cmaloney> Hah
[12:24] <cmaloney> I do love that "National Coney Island" is only in southern Michigan
[12:24] <brousch> PyMI will be held in Sleeping Bear Dunes.
[12:25] <cmaloney> Southeast MI at that
[12:25] <cmaloney> brousch: I wouldn't mind that one iota
[12:25] <cmaloney> Haven't been there since I was a kid
[12:27] <brousch> I have a vision of a family-friendly conference in West MI in summer. Bring your spouse and family. They can visit museums, beach, gardens, etc while you geek out at the conference. Wine and beer afterwards
[12:29] <brousch> But it will never happen due to lack of time
[12:30] <cmaloney> brousch: You're already organizing most of west MI
[12:30] <brousch> Oh no, I only run the GRPUG now
[12:30] <brousch> And CoNGA-WM, but that's really no work
[12:31] <brousch> I do some parts of WMMakers too, but not a lot
[12:31] <brousch> BarCampGR
[12:32] <brousch> The biggest problem is it would have to be july/august for the beaches, and those months are full of conferences already
[12:35] <cmaloney> yeah
[12:39] <_stink_> brousch only runs one thing, plus three other things
[12:40] <brousch> Yes, much lighter load than I used to have, which is good because my work situation changed to not allow me to do as much during the day
[12:45] <brousch> We could think about doing it during ArtPrize, but it would have to be in Holland or farther away
[12:45] <brousch> cmaloney: Are you still tight with your Alma Mater?
[12:46] <cmaloney> brousch: Not particularly.
[12:51] <brousch> OK,t hat's enough thinking about it for now
[12:51] <cmaloney> heh
[12:52] <brousch> I heard the children's museum thing is open in detroit again
[12:52] <brousch> http://www.mi-sci.org/
[12:53] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's cool.
[12:55] <_stink_> yeah i'm volunteering with them
[12:55] <_stink_> it's a neat place
[12:55] <_stink_> very lean staff
[12:55] <brousch> We went there like 3 months before it closed
[12:55] <_stink_> in terms of numbers.  i cannot speak to girth.
[12:57] <brousch> I'm supposed to arrange a family trip to Tha D for the ford/zoo/science center this fall
[13:00] <cmaloney> brousch: orly?
[13:01] <jrwren> brousch: awesome! are your kids not in school?
[13:02] <brousch> Yes. I promised we would go back to the ford since we couldn't see the village or many regular exhibits at makerfaire. And I said we'd visit the science center when it re-opened, and we're supposed to go to the zoo each year, but we didn't go last year
[13:02] <brousch> jrwren: It would be a weekend, or two
[13:02] <jrwren> brousch: cool, cool.
[13:17] <SneakyPhil> good morning guys
[13:19] <jrwren> good morning
[13:24] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:24]  * cmaloney is listening to Herrschaft - Kimi Ga Yo
[13:24] <cmaloney> jrwren: ^
[13:25] <cmaloney> https://herrschaft.bandcamp.com/album/les-12-vertiges
[13:36] <brousch> cmaloney: I found a good station on Google Music Radio: Grindcore's Death Trip Radio
[13:59] <cmaloney> heh
[15:49] <jrwren> where can i buy pay as you go mifi?
[15:50] <rick_h_> good luck
[15:50] <rick_h_> it's too $$ in the US
[15:50] <rick_h_> tmobile might have one but not sure
[15:50] <jrwren> ugh
[15:50] <rick_h_> I tried it with verizon/att and it was waaaay $$$
[15:57] <jrwren> yeah, i just looked. tmob has it, but its not cheap and pay as you go you have to buy the device which is ~$125
[15:57] <jrwren> which is about $100 more than I wanted to spend total :)
[16:35] <cscheib> jrwren: maybe going to A2 again tomorrow, if I don't have to go to Southfield instead
[16:35] <jrwren> cscheib: awesome!  lunch?
[16:35] <cscheib> yup
[16:35] <cscheib> I'll text/IRC/whatever when I know wtf is happening
[16:39] <jrwren> cool
[16:39] <jrwren> jcastro, kdub either of you tentatively want to join?
[16:39] <jrwren> n0p: ?
[16:40] <jrwren> I wonder if there are any ohter AA area folks that I don't know about
[16:40] <jcastro> maybe? I have to see what my car situation is
[16:41] <DrDaemonEye> jrwren: I am in AA, however I have meetings starting at 1PM on the northeast corner of town.
[16:42] <cscheib> some tool mis-wired the SAS loop on a Data Domain, so my A2 plan is only tentative right now
[16:42] <cscheib> may have to run and fix that.
[16:42] <DrDaemonEye> cool.
[16:42] <cscheib> didn't know n0p was idling on here, even
[16:43] <cscheib> haven't seen him in years
[16:46] <cmaloney> jrwren: I would recommend Ting but it's not good for out of the country
[16:47] <cmaloney> https://ting.com/shop/sim
[16:47] <cmaloney> They do allow tethering on phones that support it
[16:49] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: hey, I'm in the NE corner of town :)
[16:50] <jrwren> cmaloney: $$$ becuase I have to buy the mifi
[16:50] <cmaloney> jrwren: Right, but you could get an $80 phone
[16:50] <cmaloney> and use that
[16:51] <cmaloney> (3G though. $164 for a Mifi unit)
[16:56] <kdub> jrwren, tentatively yes
[16:56] <DrDaemonEye> jrwren: oh really?  where abouts, may I ask?
[17:00] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: a short walk from Traverwood Library, or a longer walk from Plymouth Rd/Traverwood Rd intersection
[17:06] <DrDaemonEye> jrwren: nice.  I'm over at Green and Plymoth.
[17:08] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: cool!
[17:08] <DrDaemonEye> yeah.  good area, but one heck of a commute for me... I live over on the west side
[17:15] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: ah yeah, that is a trek. its not far, but with traffic and no direct roads, UGH
[17:20] <n0p> jrwren: cscheib: yeah, lmk if/where/when you guys are going
[17:32] <DrDaemonEye> jrwren: yeah... Once I get up onto Broadway and then over to Plymoth Rd, it gets better.
[17:33] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: sure. with huron under construction, the comute home must really suck.
[17:33] <DrDaemonEye> jrwren: It is actually not bad... I take broadway all the way down to miller, then over to Maple.
[17:34] <DrDaemonEye> Actually, I cut through the waterhill neighborhood, as I am in North Waterhill.
[17:34] <jrwren> DrDaemonEye: i was picking my daughter up from summer camps downtown at 5pm a few weeks ago and that part was terrible
[17:35] <DrDaemonEye> jrwren: That it is.  It is part of the reason I take the bus most of the time.
[17:36] <jrwren> I don't know where that is.
[17:36] <jrwren> ah, yeah, bus rules.
[17:36] <DrDaemonEye> Waterhill neighborhood?
[17:36] <jrwren> yeah.
[17:37] <DrDaemonEye> It's up in the area of Newport, Miller, and M-14
[17:37] <jrwren> oh, is it called htat because the reservoir is there?
[17:37] <DrDaemonEye> Not sure
[17:37] <DrDaemonEye> But, I am right next to the reservoir.
[17:37] <jrwren> cool.
[17:38] <jrwren> its nice up there.
[17:38] <jrwren> when we were house shopping there was this awesome place for sale, but we couldn't quite afford it.
[17:38] <DrDaemonEye> yeah... found two rooms in a house for $500/month, all utilities included
[17:40] <jrwren> WOW! that is a crazy good deal for AA
[17:40] <DrDaemonEye> yeah... got it through the UMHS Homeshare program
[17:42] <jrwren> you work for UMHS?
[17:49] <DrDaemonEye> I don't actually.
[17:57] <cmaloney> lost cement truck is doing wonders from my UPS radar
[18:09] <jrwren> cmaloney: hahahaha
[18:32] <jcastro> rick_h_: I ordered the new Moto G
[19:17] <cmaloney> jcastro: sweet
[19:23] <rick_h_> jcastro: cool, I looked at that for my wife but even that one is 4.7" now
[19:23] <rick_h_> wtf happened to 4" phones?
[19:24] <brousch> puny
[19:25] <jrwren> I think its worse in iphone land :(
[19:27] <jcastro> rick_h_: yeah, normal phones are basically dead
[19:27] <jcastro> it's all phablets now. :-/
[19:27] <rick_h_> jcastro: :(
[19:27] <rick_h_> jcastro: I really want to get the new motox but damn I don't want anything that big
[19:27] <rick_h_> going to this one was :/
[19:28] <rick_h_> my poor wife has nothing she likes. Even the sony mini one is like 4.5"?
[19:29] <jcastro> I'm pretty much over phones
[19:29] <jcastro> just going to spend the least I can from now on
[19:30] <rick_h_> heh, I filled up 32gb on mine :/ I use it too much.
[19:30] <rick_h_> though now that I have my n9 fixed I do use it a lot, but my phone is just always on me
[19:36] <jrwren> i'm still hoping for iphone7 in a 4S or 5 form factor
[19:36] <jrwren> and if I don't get that, well then eff it, I'll go 6+ :p
[19:52] <cscheib> jrwren / n0p / jcastro : gotta go to southfield instead :-/
[19:52] <cscheib> try again next week
[19:53] <brousch> Can't you guys force a small ubuntu touch phone?
[19:53] <jrwren> cscheib: bummer!
[19:53] <jrwren> brousch: hahahahaha. NO!
[19:53] <jrwren> brousch: and, the ubuntu phones are small. They are the 4" size IIRC
[19:54] <brousch> Well what good is knowing all of these Canonical people if they have no power?!
[19:54] <brousch> Firefox phones are small, and cheap
[19:55] <jrwren> brousch: i sometimes ask myself, what good is working for Canonical if I have no power. :)
[19:58] <brousch> Well there's always the money
[20:03] <jrwren> brousch: bah, I can get that stuff anywhere :)
[20:35] <rick_h_> we have some power, just not in the places most folks want us to :P
[23:41] <dzho> seems to me in the handheld space, everyone has been swinging for the bleachers of phones, instead of trying to get some solid baseruns with non-cell tablets.
[23:42] <dzho> if I could buy a just-turn-off-the-gps-and-rms-might-even-use-it free tablet that could be great.
[23:43] <dzho> there are RFY wifi routes, so it would be off to the races for all the other work that would need to be done on these.
[23:43] <dzho> s/routes/routers/