[05:30] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:06] <Kilos> morning all
[06:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:22] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Cryterion on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy Pong!" 11 hours, 16 minutes and 19 seconds ago
[06:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> derp
[06:50] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy GnikLlort and others too
[07:13] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:15] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[07:15] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac 
[07:15] <TinuvaMac> top of the morning to you too Kilos
[07:16] <Kilos> ty
[07:25] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[07:25] <mazal> Mornings
[08:49] <Kilos> hi barrydk mazal 
[08:49] <mazal> Lo oom
[14:09] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos
[14:09] <andrewlsd> Hi all
[14:09] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[14:09] <Kilos> you ok?
[14:09] <andrewlsd> long time.
[14:09] <Kilos> where you been
[14:10] <andrewlsd> yip. just popping in to say "Hi". Been crazy busy.
[14:13] <Kilos> aw
[14:14] <Kilos> sort the busy so you have some irc time
[14:20] <andrewlsd> :-)
[15:38] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[15:38] <superfly> Hi Kilos 
[16:15] <mazal> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[16:16] <mazal> Don't suppose anybody have a HP scanjet 200 scanner and got it working on linux ?
[16:27] <octoquad> mazal, nope, but are using hplip already?
[16:28] <mazal> octoquad, yep , already tried the newest one
[16:28] <mazal> Seems it simply doesn't work with linux
[16:39] <superfly> I have an officejet 4500, works out the box. 
[16:40] <superfly> mazal: which desktop environment are you using? 
[16:41] <superfly> mazal: and I presume it's USB? 
[16:50] <mazal> superfly, unity , 14.04.2 , 64bit , USB
[16:51] <mazal> All info I can find online ends up in dead end
[16:54] <superfly> I'm on KDE, and I just use "skanlite" 
[16:55] <superfly> Which uses xsane, IIRC 
[16:55] <superfly> You tried the GTK version? 
[17:29] <mazal> superfly, yep. Tried xsane also. Doesn't even detect it
[17:38] <Kilos> isnt there simplescan mazal 
[17:38] <Kilos> last i used a hp printer inkjet printer simple scan saw it easy
[17:41]  * Kilos thinks early to bed is wise
[17:45] <mazal> Kilos, that doesn't work either
[17:48] <Kilos> ai
[17:49] <Kilos> i think on one printer ting i had to use some modprobe comand
[17:50] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[17:50] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[17:57] <inetpro> good evening
[17:57] <inetpro> mazal: have you got the latest HPLIP package installed?
[17:57] <inetpro> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[17:59] <mazal> Yep , doesn't work
[17:59] <inetpro> ai!
[17:59] <inetpro> sad when this happens 
[18:00] <mazal> HPLIP doesn't even scan for scanners , just printers
[18:00] <inetpro> HP used to be very well supported on linux
[18:01] <mazal> Now I will be stuck on this stupid OS for a while longer :(
[18:02] <inetpro> what info do you get about it when running lsusb?
[18:03] <mazal> It's shows there. But can't remember all the exact info.
[18:04] <superfly> mazal: output of lsusb and "tail -f /var/log/syslog" when you plug the scanner in?
[18:04] <MaNI> it doesn't list in the sane list of supported scanners - while there are about 100 other hp scanjets there
[18:04] <MaNI> so probably you will have a hard time to get it working if its possible at all
[18:04] <mazal> Mani yeah, it just doesn't seem to be supported
[18:05] <mazal> superfly, I already packed everything away :P
[18:05] <superfly> mazal: how old is the scanner?
[18:05] <mazal> 2 years
[18:05] <mazal> +-
[18:06] <mazal> I will just have to save up for a supported one I guess
[18:06] <mazal> And will then ask you guys to recommend one
[18:07]  * inetpro simply uses CamScanner on Android these days
[18:07] <MaNI> vuescan may work apparently
[18:07] <inetpro> no need for a scanner anymore 
[18:07] <mazal> MaNI, is that an app ?
[18:08] <inetpro> my scanner is always in my pocket
[18:08] <MaNI> yes
[18:08] <inetpro> yep, uses the camera and does a decent job at converting to pdf, image, etc
[18:08] <MaNI> ahh, no vuescan only works for it on osx and windows
[18:09] <mazal> Will write it down and try tomorrow. After 14 hours of struggling with computer crap not working I am a bit gatvol now
[18:09] <MaNI> trash it :p
[18:09] <mazal> k
[18:09] <inetpro> press a button and send to who ever needs it
[18:10] <MaNI> supporting osx but not linux, what messed up priorities
[18:12] <octoquad> mazal, according to this: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html scanjets are not support with HPLIP. Additionally the technical specs only support Windows and Mac
[18:14] <mazal> Yeah like I mentioned to inetpro , it only checks for printers
[18:14] <octoquad> not supported with sane either: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD
[18:14] <octoquad> bummer
[18:15] <mazal> Yeah I be stuck
[18:15] <octoquad> keep the sane-project.org link handy if do decide to get a new one
[18:16] <inetpro> mazal: how often do you scan documents these days?
[18:16] <octoquad> or just use a virtual machine and use the scanner?
[18:17] <mazal> inetpro, about twice a month. But when I do it's VERY important
[18:17] <inetpro> number of pages?
[18:18] <mazal> octoquad, I know zip about virtual machines. Never even tried it. It's on my " to-learn " list for long time
[18:18] <mazal> inetpro, About 30 or so
[18:18] <inetpro> eish!
[18:18] <mazal> Why eish ?
[18:19] <MaNI> wonder how well vuescan works in wine
[18:19] <inetpro> a physical scanner might be what you need
[18:19] <mazal> That's why I have one
[18:22] <inetpro> but you might want to try the Android way anyway, maybe you find it practical after all
[18:22] <mazal> I don't have an Android
[18:22] <mazal> My phone can't even do facebook lol
[18:22] <inetpro> hmm... what mobile phone do you have?
[18:23] <mazal> I only use cheapie phone , one of these 299 tjoppies
[18:23] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:24] <mazal> I had a smartphone once , and when they told me R700 for new battery I calmly fetched my hammer
[18:24] <mazal> Since then no smart phones
[18:25] <inetpro> wb MaNI
[18:27] <MaNI> tx
[18:27] <mazal> Sjoe head is spinning. Gonna crash
[18:27] <mazal> Sleep well everyone , thanx for trying
[18:37] <Cryterion> Evening Everyone
[18:42] <octoquad> evening Cryterion 
[18:56] <gremble> Good evening