[00:00] <NoobJay> if you newly installed Ubuntu, what is the first thing you do other than  sudo apt-get update &&  sudo apt-get upgrade ? :)
[00:01] <cogitation1> NoobJay:  maybe install proprietary codecs...
[00:01] <k1l> NoobJay: install the programs you want to use
[00:01] <NoobJay> just wondering, because first I did is to install chrome :)
[00:02] <mikelnx> chromium > chrome
[00:02] <TJ-> NoobJay: check all the hardware is working as I expect, with optimisations as appropriate (think video drivers)
[00:02] <NoobJay> do you prefer to have chromium over chrome?
[00:02] <cogitation1> kll:  sorry to bother you directly, but can you tell me what's wrong with my question?  Getting zero replies over like 90 minutes.
[00:02] <colincolby> i have the same question
[00:03] <cogitation1> colincolby:  did I miss your response somewhere?
[00:03] <colincolby> as NoobJay
[00:03] <k1l> if chrome or chromium, its you personal decision.
[00:03] <colincolby> no, i just am too busy right now and I'm a newb myself
[00:04] <mikelnx> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-04
[00:04] <mikelnx> http://www.unixmen.com/top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-04/
[00:04] <k1l> cogitation1: sorry i dont know. maybe look into unity-tweak-tool if there is a setting for it
[00:04] <k1l> cogitation1: but iirc, there is only a icon if there is something in the drive
[00:04] <cogitation1> kll:  I originally had an icon, but now there's a dvd in the drive and no icon.  Understood if you don't know.
[00:05] <NoobJay> brb
[00:05] <k1l> cogitation1: a quick search: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198944/cd-dvd-icon-on-unity-panel-launcher
[00:06] <cogitation1> kll:  tyvm
[00:06] <k1l> cogitation1: but it doesnt seem to be the same case than your one :/
[00:08] <silvex> f
[00:08] <TJ-> cogitation1: My first question, and test, would be: regardless of the GUI, is the media readable and mountable. If not, that might explain why there is no GUI icon
[00:08] <nicekiwi> whne/if IPs are blcoked by fail2ban are those blocks added to a file somewhere?
[00:08] <cogitation1> TJ-:  thanks for response... I was looking at other window
[00:08] <cogitation1> kll:  thanks for link... was looking.  Not exactly the same, but no big deal
[00:09] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I don't know any other way to read or mount the media... that's what I'm trying to do.
[00:10] <Spider> has anyone run ubuntu on ipad?
[00:10] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I just burned an installer ISO, and I just want to make sure it burned correctly before I reboot, so I can install the OS.
[00:11] <TJ-> cogitation1: open a Terminal so you have a command-line shell, then try "blkid /dev/sr*" - if anything valid is found you'll see something like "/dev/sr0: LABEL="DELL" TYPE="iso9660""
[00:11] <nicekiwi> Spider, afaik, no.
[00:11] <Spider> thanks
[00:12] <cogitation1> result:  /dev/sr0: LABEL="Ubuntu 14.04 LTS amd64" TYPE="iso9660"
[00:12] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I have two drives that both work, but that's one of them.
[00:13] <nicekiwi> Spider, though this project is trying to do it. N good progress on the iPad thought: http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Status#iPad
[00:13] <cogitation1> TJ-: I'm on a live cd.
[00:13] <Spider> cool thanks for the info
[00:13] <TJ-> cogitation1: OK, so that might be the Live CD ... which suggests the other drive media can't be read
[00:14] <TJ-> cogitation1: hang on, I'm confused. Is the Live CD you're running not the version of Ubuntu you want to install?
[00:14] <cogitation1> TJ-: quite possibly.  anything I could be doing wrong with brasero, that it says it burned correctly, but didn't?
[00:14] <alan_> hola :v
[00:14] <cogitation1> TJ-: No, I'm making an ISO of Linux Mint 17.2
[00:15] <Guest48255> oc
[00:15] <TJ-> cogitation1: OK. so that report is definitely not Mint. Which does suggest the burn wasn't successful. Is the media ReWriteable?
[00:15] <cogitation1> TJ-: no, it's a DVD+R.
[00:15] <Spider> is there a good channel to learn how to use irc correctly?
[00:16] <TJ-> cogitation1: ouch, so it could have turned into a coaster then. Try ejecting the disc and re-inserting it... miracles sometimes happen :)
[00:16] <cogitation1> TJ-: Okay.
[00:16] <k1l> Spider: ask in #freenode
[00:17] <DMackey> xubuntu question, safe to ask here?
[00:17] <satellite_> dummy output, please help
[00:17] <k1l> DMackey: yes. maybe the guys in #xubuntu know better about xfce specifics
[00:17] <Spider> thanks, sorry if i was off topic.
[00:17] <BotchlaB> It's an Ubuntu flavor, official one, so probably.
[00:17] <cogitation1> TJ-:  No miracle.  Seen others, but not this time.
[00:18] <DMackey> Ok cool, xubuntu, Can't get my ethernet working BUT wifi works fine, what files must I edit to set up static IP's ?
[00:18] <DMackey> <-- Linux Noob tooo
[00:18] <satellite_> xubuntu dummy output, please help
[00:18] <DMackey> Network manager was useless, IP's didn't transfer to the ethernet adapter.
[00:19] <TJ-> cogitation1: "tail /var/log/kern.log" might indicate some I/O errors trying to read the disc, which would tend to confirm it is now a coaster
[00:19] <cogitation1> TJ-:  thanks for all your help...should I just burn again?  I only have one additional disc to burn with though
[00:19] <DMackey> Burn at the SLOWEST Speed you can, Thats how I burn all my OS discs
[00:19] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: Does your computer support USB booting?
[00:19] <TJ-> cogitation1: do you have any USB flash memory devices? That can be a safer (cheaper) route than disc burning
[00:20] <BotchlaB> ^
[00:20] <BotchlaB> DMackey: And good point, it's how I do it too.
[00:20] <cogitation1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003856/  (output of last command)
[00:21] <TJ-> cogitation1: That confirms it I'm afraid
[00:21] <cogitation1> TJ-:  well it's great to have an answer anyway. tyvm
[00:21] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  I believe so... but the only USB drive I have that's big enough, I'm not sure wher eit is.
[00:22] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: If when you find it, something like http://unetbootin.github.io/ may be of assistance.
[00:22] <cogitation1> ty
[00:22] <BotchlaB> np
[00:22] <TJ-> cogitation1: There's a rather neat way to do installs rather than burning discs or using USB... that is to create a Virtual Machine from the Live environment, set the physical hard disk as attached to the VM guest, attach the ISO installer image and run it :)
[00:23] <MoonBurst> I seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu. It won't boot from my USB, so I tried to do it from the C drive. But after booting up, it says something about serious problems, giving me an option to ignore, manually repair, or something with the s key that I can't recall what word it was at the moment.
[00:23] <cogitation1> TJ-:  wow, that sounds cool.  You feel like doing that with me for fun? :P
[00:23] <MoonBurst> While trying to dualboot
[00:24] <jamesd> do people really dualboot in this century?  i thought that is why hey created virtualization software
[00:24] <BotchlaB> MoonBurst: You mean send report?
[00:24] <cogitation1> jamesd:  I'm no superuser, but I sure do...
[00:24] <MoonBurst> No, that's not it.
[00:24] <BotchlaB> Ah.
[00:24] <cogitation1> jamesd:  I'm going to be dual-booting win7 and linux mint
[00:25] <satel> no sound, please help, dummy output
[00:25] <jamesd> cogitation1: and what is the goal of doing this? the only reason linux needs to be on baremetal these days is for a game...
[00:25] <cogitation1> satel:  this may be dumb, but check to see if your sound is muted?  ubuntu mutes sound by default on first startup
[00:26] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: A word of warning if you have genuine Windows 7 and are eligible for that free upgrade to Windows 10; Windows 10 has been known to completely nuke the GRUB bootloader, and your Linux installation.
[00:26] <satel> cogitation1, no, it isn't
[00:26] <MoonBurst> But basically, the install seems to be bugged out from not booting from my USB. But for whatever reason, it won't boot from the USB drive.
[00:26] <cogitation1> jamesd:  well, in my case I was doing it for a game, actually, but even so, I wouldn't want to take the performance hit.  My computer has been oddly slow lately, even with a new install of win7
[00:26] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  there's a free upgrade to windows 10?
[00:27] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: o.0 Yeah. You didn't know? It's for everyone that has genuine Windows 7, 8 and 8.1, afaik
[00:27] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  I actually bought a full retail version of win7, after I decided to stop all stealing/torrenting period because of coming to faith
[00:27] <DrRoach> I thought it was any genuine version of Windows?
[00:27] <BotchlaB> DrRoach: Hah, no, much to the chagrin of XP and Vista users.
[00:27] <satel> xubuntu is not reading my sound card, need help
[00:28] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: Hah, I see.
[00:28] <DrRoach> Botchla: That sucks
[00:28] <BotchlaB> :)
[00:29] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  thanks for the info, seriously... I was thinking about looking into win10... but was almost certainly not going to get it because of unnecessary cost
[00:29] <MoonBurst> Can I install ubuntu via wubi from the C drive? I'm not sure if that's why it's bugging out
[00:29] <xangua> !wubi | MoonBurst
[00:29] <BotchlaB> cogitation1: If you have genuine Windows 7, and not extend the off-topic here too much, you *should* have gotten the notification by now to reserve your upgrade.
[00:29] <wileee> !wubi | MoonBurst
[00:29] <squinty> off topic@
[00:29] <MoonBurst> That might be why by installs are bugging out.
[00:30] <OerHeks> wubi is depreciated, drop it.
[00:30] <CosmicNoises> !install | MoonBurst
[00:30] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  Understood about off-topic... but I definitely never did.
[00:30] <cogitation1> Will look into it.
[00:30] <BotchlaB> Odd.
[00:30] <BotchlaB> Yeah.
[00:31] <TJ-> cogitation1: sorry, was making coffee. Using a VM is pretty straight-forward as long as the system supports VT-x extensions and they're enabled in firmware/BIOS. With that, just "apt-get install virt-manager" in the live env and then configure a VM guest
[00:32] <cogitation1> TJ-: No problem.  I was being cheeky anyway, though sometimes people like th is kind of stuff and would say sure.
[00:32] <TJ-> cogitation1: I'm not known for saying no to the hard problems :)
[00:32] <cogitation1> TJ-:  am I likely doing anything wrong with brasero that it's creating a coasters?
[00:33] <cogitation1> creating coasters?
[00:33] <TJ-> cogitation1: more likely the media and the writer aren't compatible. some combinations can be quite flakey
[00:33] <auzty> hello, how to change the timezone from uname? i already change it in /etc/timezone but the uname command still using UTC
[00:33] <BotchlaB> I can agree about that; Verbatim DVD-R's, not RW's, weren't showing up in my drive.
[00:33] <BotchlaB> But HP DVD-RW's were.
[00:33]  * BotchlaB shrugs.
[00:34] <BotchlaB> Sometimes computers seem possessed to me.
[00:34] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  I have a story that some people wouldn't believe.  Maybe not possessed, but supernatural things, sure.
[00:35] <BotchlaB> o.0
[00:35] <BotchlaB> By "possessed" I meant that as a hyperbole. :P
[00:35] <cogitation1> BotchlaB:  Right after I became a believer, this happened.  Kind of hilarious, really.
[00:35] <MoonBurst> !automate
[00:35] <wileee> this is support there is a channel for chat
[00:35] <TJ-> Optical disc media have ID codes embedded in them... it's always worth checking those before burning (using suitable tools which I forget now) to ensure the media and writer are friends
[00:35] <BotchlaB> TJ-, I see.
[00:35] <bazhang> cogitation1, BotchlaB take the chat elsewhere please
[00:35] <cogitation1> bazhang:  fair enough, sorry for off-topic.
[00:36] <cogitation1> TJ-:  was that directed at me?
[00:37] <cogitation1> TJ-:  If so, I'm at the bottom of a 100-disc spindle..theyv'e always worked with these drives before, so that's not it.
[00:37] <TJ-> auzty: The time comes from the kernel's "/proc/version"
[00:38] <TJ-> cogitation1: dust, condensation, head tracking servos failing... lots of common reasons for writer failures too, unfortunately.
[00:38] <cogitation1> TJ-:  Okay... np.  I'll just use the other drive and see what happens.  Thanks for all your help.
[00:40] <TJ-> cogitation1: sounds silly... but I fixed similar issues in the past by simply blowing *hard* into the drive, either  using lung-power or a compressor... obvious what it'd do, but not obvious to think of trying it :)
[00:41] <cogitation1> TJ-:  Like a nintendo cartridge?
[00:41] <radian_> , i search in the google for 2 hours and dont find solution
[00:41] <TJ-> cogitation1: no thanks; I had one earlier :)
[00:41] <radian_> how to install flash player in ubuntu 15.04 for raspy
[00:41] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I was amazed I could fix my xbox 360's drive by opening it up and twisting a little diode
[00:43] <TJ-> cogitation1: there's some useful overview of the virtual machine approach here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[00:43] <cogitation1> TJ-:  brasero is now stuck at a "preparing to write" screen"
[00:43] <TJ-> cogitation1: in a terminal check for device errors with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[00:44] <cogitation1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12003969/
[00:47] <TJ-> cogitation1: I'd be tempted to think that drive is failing
[00:47] <cogitation1> TJ-:  this is the other drive, though
[00:47] <cogitation1> TJ-: the one that I used to liveboot
[00:48] <TJ-> cogitation1: are they on the same host controller interface?
[00:48] <cogitation1> TJ-: they're both pretty old drives, but... yes, I'm pretty sure they are.
[00:48] <cogitation1> TJ-:  will look real quick
[00:49] <TJ-> cogitation1: There's something going wrong there... if you have access i'd be tempted to shutdown, disconnect and reconnect all the cables
[00:49] <TJ-> cogitation1: (for the DVD writers)
[00:49] <cogitation1> TJ-:  they're connected on like sata ports 2 and 3 of 0 through 5...there's also 1 and 2 on an entirely separate controller
[00:50] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I can do that... I don't have any spare ports though... could a failed hard drive on the other controller be related?
[00:50] <TJ-> cogitation1: For 2 drives to suddenly report I/O errors is suspicious.
[00:50] <cogitation1> TJ-:  I don't know if it's suddenly...I've had occasional problems with it for years actually.  pretty old drives... but they've both worked, up to today.
[00:50] <TJ-> cogitation1: If it has failed in a way that affects the  SATA controller, possibly. If you suspect a failed drive best to disconnect the SATA/IDE cable as a precaution whilst doing the installation work
[00:51] <cogitation1> TJ-:  what would you recommend I do as far as connecting cables?  I intended to disconnect that failed drive right after I burned this disc, actually.
[00:52] <cogitation1> TJ-:  brasero just said, when I cancelled:  the disc could not be ejected --please eject manually"
[00:52] <TJ-> cogitation1: It's worth starting again. Shutdown. Disconnect failed drive. Boot the Live env again, try reading the already-written disc (just in case), then try burning a fresh one if that isn't readable.
[00:53] <Leverquin_> how i can know does game can be played on linux? like DF?
[00:53] <TJ-> cogitation1: that really does suggest the drive <> controller link is bad right now
[00:53] <wileee> Leverquin_, the wine site has support info I think, be sure to use full words, some of us don't game.
[00:53] <cogitation1> TJ-:  is this a motherboard hardware error?  I have a lifetime warranty of this motherboard.
[00:54] <cogitation1> *on this
[00:54] <bazhang> what is df Leverquin_
[00:54] <Leverquin_> df is this http://www.twitch.tv/leverquind its dwarf fortress. i think everyone who loves programming should play it.
[00:55] <xubuntu1404> nick urist_
[00:55] <TJ-> cogitation1:  1. failed drive causing other issues 2. problems with cabling. 3. problem with media. 4. problems with BIOS/firmware configuration. 5. problem with writer application. 6. problem with kernel
[00:55] <cogitation1> Leverquin_:  would ask about it if it wasn't off-topic
[00:55] <Leverquin_> just type dwarf fortress.
[00:57] <cogitation1> TJ-:  1 is quite possible.  2 is possible though unlikely.  these cables have almost never been moved.  3:  possible bad-luck, possibly, but not incompatible media.  4:  I suspect not, because I've had the PC for like 6 years now.  5:  using default brasero...guess it's possible.  6:  if so, new in the new kernal, because previously didn't have problems.
[00:57] <radian_> hi , i tried to install flash for ubuntu 15.04 raspy. apt-get intall flashplugin-player . but not work
[00:58] <bazhang> http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Installation#Linux  Leverquin_
[00:58] <wileee> radian_, what is " ubuntu 15.04 raspy" not sure here?
[00:58] <LtL> radian_: try apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:58] <DrRoach> radian_: download flash from the website and then put the .so file in your browsers plugin folder?
[00:58] <wileee> that is the correct command
[00:58] <cogitation1> TJ-:  new info:  having extreme slowdowns copying a file to one of my drives.
[00:58] <Leverquin_> thanks bazhang
[00:58] <LtL> radian_: thats for 'vivid' 15.04
[00:58] <radian_> ubuntu mate 15.04 for raspberry pi 2
[00:58] <cogitation1> TJ-: does this suggest a sata controller problem?
[00:59] <wileee> ah cool
[00:59] <TJ-> cogitation1: I think removing that failed device is number 1 priority, and restarting clean
[00:59] <radian_> i tried to install manually but no folder in /usr/lib/mozilla
[00:59] <wileee> radian_, You might want pepperflash, should be possible
[01:00] <cogitation1> TJ-:  trying to copy the iso file somewhere before I reboot so I know where it is.
[01:00] <wileee> chrome browser has it
[01:01] <TJ-> cogitation1: SATA devices have to support hot-plugging, so you can pull the drive cable whilst the system is running :)
[01:02] <squinty> on a debian box right now so am not sure if ubuntu has it or not   might want to search for pepperflashplugin-nonfree in the repo
[01:02] <bazhang> !find pepperflash
[01:02] <cogitation1> TJ-: oh, okay
[01:02] <squinty> bazhang, ahhh... nice   didn't know about that.  thanks
[01:02] <bazhang> squinty, one easy way to check for ubuntu: /msg ubottu find package
[01:03] <squinty> bazhang, cool thanks again
[01:03] <bazhang> squinty, also /msg ubottu info package
[01:03] <bazhang> np
[01:06] <cogitation1> TJ-: Unity seems to have frozen?  pulled the defective drive, and also the drive that just started to act up
[01:06] <cogitation1> TJ-: can't access file structure now
[01:07] <TJ-> cogitation1: if you pulled the cables whilst a file-system was still mounted.... that will cause a rather severe problem !
[01:08] <cogitation1> TJ-:  lol... my dumb mistake, but that's what I thought you said to do...hot-pluggable, etc
[01:08] <cogitation1> TJ-:  it seems to have recovered, possibly
[01:09] <TJ-> cogitation1: if the file-system isn't part of the essential live OS the kernel can usually cope. It depends on what has/had hooks onto the file-system/device at the time it was disconnected.
[01:11] <cogitation1> well, I'm going to replace the drive  (WOW THAT THING IS HOT!) with another one, then reboot
[01:16] <lopx> sup anyone on?
[01:17] <colincolby> cogitation1: still waiting? can you repeat the question
[01:17] <colincolby> i have a little time now
[01:17] <cogitation1> colincolby:  no, I got a bunch of help, thanks for the offer.
[01:17] <cchildress> hi, all. i have a dell latitude e6510 with an intel i5-m540 processor. i can't seem to get the cpu to run at more than 1.2GHz
[01:18] <cchildress> it's rated up to 3.5GHz, I believe
[01:18] <cogitation1> cchildress:  does it run at faster than 1.2 Ghz when under load by a program?
[01:18] <cchildress> sorry, 2.5GHz max
[01:19] <cogitation1> cchildress:  some cpu's will clock down to save power if they're not being used.
[01:19] <cchildress> cogitation1: no, not as far as reported by /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[01:20] <cchildress> when i use cpuburn, nothing seems to crank up
[01:20] <cogitation1> chhildress:  okay, then I'm not experienced enough to help, sorry.
[01:20] <cchildress> i can run dwarf fortress, but it stays at 1.2GHz
[01:20] <cchildress> cogitation1: thank you anyway for your help
[01:20] <cogitation1> yw
[01:21] <cchildress> anyone else have an older i5 processor locked in the lowest frequency even under load?
[01:21] <cchildress> fresh install, fwiw
[01:24] <bewbz> I just installed Ubuntu for the first time. I've been browsing the internet for things to do when you first get linux/install linux. Can I basically trust any site on the front page of google for downloads/recommendations
[01:24] <bewbz> Ubuntu 15.04 btw
[01:25] <lopx> I have
[01:26] <lopx> wouldn't trust googe though :)
[01:26] <bewbz> lopx was that to me?
[01:26] <mike802> most people do normal computer stuff
[01:26] <lopx> bewbz: yes
[01:26] <bewbz> what do you mean normal computer stuff? I just command lines to install spotify and realized i hafve no idea if that was a acommand for a virus to murder my whole family's credit cards
[01:27] <TJ-> cchildress: what does this report? "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling{_available_,}*"
[01:27] <bewbz> lopx: if you don't trust google, what do you trust. i want to install some anti virus/malware software
[01:27] <DrRoach> command to install spotify? I'm sure you can't install spotify on linux can you?
[01:28] <bewbz> yessit you sre can DrRoach\
[01:28] <cchildress> TJ-: quite a few numbers (frequencies) and governors
[01:28] <urist_> yeah ubuntu has a spotify client
[01:28] <cchildress> TJ-: do you want a pastebin?
[01:28] <TJ-> cchildress: can you pastebin the output?
[01:28] <urist_> !spotify
[01:28] <cchildress> TJ-: sure hold on
[01:28] <DrRoach> Ahh sweet, never knew that, I've been using the web player this whole time..
[01:28] <urist_> i don't remember how to install it though
[01:28] <bewbz> Thats what brought my here. I googled ubuntu spotify and just threw some code in the terminal
[01:28] <urist_> to be honest though
[01:29] <urist_> the ubuntu client bugs out sometime
[01:29] <OerHeks> spotify works in chrome
[01:29] <bewbz> I ahve 15.04 and there's a spotify application.
[01:29] <TJ-> cchildress: for comparison, here's what I see with 14.04 (and kernel 4.1.0)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004180/
[01:29] <urist_> but is has has some neat features where it shows your song right on the OS
[01:29] <lopx> E: Unable to locate package spotify
[01:29] <lopx> ;p
[01:29] <urist_> and i can use my keyboard to skip songs
[01:29] <bewbz> I've had Linux/Ubuntu for like three hours now and I can't believe =people pay $100 for windows.
[01:30] <bewbz> You have to install lipscomb 5
[01:30] <urist_> welcome to linux :)
[01:30] <m0r0n> Did flash for Ubuntu get updated recently? My youtube is different.. I can't seem to watch 360 videos properly anymore
[01:30] <lopx> just have to add to repo :)
[01:30] <lopx> no it was
[01:30] <lopx> decap use htl5
[01:30] <bewbz> Can anyone recommend some virus/malware software/good sites for downloades. I always used NiNite on windows.
[01:31] <cogitation1> bewbz:  windows or linux?
[01:31] <cogitation1> bewbz:  I'
[01:31] <lopx> bewbz: idk if there is one, do use a firewall though :)
[01:31] <urist_> you don't really need an AV for linux
[01:31] <cogitation1> I've never heard of a Linux antivirus...
[01:31] <spaceburrito> bewbz: welcome. :) It doesn't get easier to believe four years down the road either. :P
[01:31] <urist_> but if you want one ClamAV i think is the popular one
[01:31] <lopx> I had some AV I forget
[01:31] <bewbz> you definitely need av (anti virus?) for linux
[01:31] <lopx> no ;p
[01:31] <spaceburrito> Clam is the only one I've heard of that's any good
[01:31] <lopx> clam yeah
[01:31] <lopx> I used clam :)
[01:32] <bewbz> my credit cards are about to saved into all my emails and browsers etc
[01:32] <urist_> AV on linux is more so you protect windows machines
[01:32] <DrRoach> m0r0n: I have noticed some youtube updates recently with regards to their web player, they might of broke it
[01:32] <urist_> rather than yourself
[01:32] <m0r0n> DrRoach, that makes sense. Not sure if it's a windows thing too
[01:32] <spaceburrito> use HTML5! Flash is... gross at best. Mozilla suggests not using it at all if you use Firefox
[01:32] <urist_> just checked you need to add a repo to get spotify on ubuntu
[01:32] <bewbz> DrRoach: That goes back to my original question: Can i trust any command line from whatever I google linux/ubuntu related in Youtube? How do i know the code i'm runningn doens't royally F me over
[01:32] <lopx> reove flash :)
[01:33] <cchildress> TJ-: sorry that took so long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004203/
[01:33] <bewbz> not youtube - Google. i(too much to drink.)
[01:33] <urist_> bewbz: don't trust everything, but for the most part you can
[01:33] <urist_> bewbz: if in dowbt look up what the command does
[01:33] <squinty> bewbz,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[01:34] <bewbz> urist: thankl you. you're right. I just do a little due diligience here and there,.
[01:34] <DrRoach> m0r0n: Yeah same, may switch over to my windows partition later but more than likely will just ask a friend if they see the same
[01:34] <lopx> idk I might install win10
[01:34] <cchildress> TJ-: it looks like maybe my maximum frequency is set to 1199000
[01:34] <urist_> bewbz: I've been a linux noob for the past 6 years and never had a bad experience with a command i found online
[01:34] <bewbz> squinty: lol
[01:35] <m0r0n> Yeah I'll have to ask. My Kpop dancer 360 videos are too good to watch stretched out
[01:35] <bewbz> ty though
[01:35] <DrRoach> bewbz: Most Ubuntu users won't try and troll you, especially on the Ubuntu forum. As long as you steer clear of "rm -rf /" you should be pretty much fine
[01:35] <cogitation1> bewbz:  1 year and the same... no bad experiences.
[01:35] <bewbz> thanks. I'll keep an eye out.
[01:35] <jamesd> urist_: no one has given you a nice fork bomb?  :(){ :|:& }; :
[01:36] <urist_> jamesd: hasn't happened yet :P
[01:36] <DrRoach> http://explainshell.com/ A really good website to see what a command will do
[01:36] <bewbz> nice! thank you DrRoach
[01:36] <lopx> one problem I have with ubuntu is that it has stuff I don't ever need and it feels blaoted, tips? I don't want to reinstall (drunk)
[01:36] <TJ-> cchildress: what PC is it? I'm wondering if a notebook/laptop with power saving in operation
[01:37] <DrRoach> I've never had a bad experience with Linux in over 3 years
[01:37] <jackcom> where i must write content of ‘syntax on’, ‘set number’
[01:37] <DrRoach> bewbz: No problem!
[01:38] <lopx> bewbz: did you repartition your drive for linux :P?
[01:38] <cogitation1> TJ-:  finished swapping all drives out.. going to reboot now.  thanks again.  Keep up the good work
[01:38] <lopx> bewbz: first time I installed, I forgot and it efed up my drive. Good times.
[01:38] <TJ-> cogitation1: good luck :)
[01:38] <cchildress> TJ-: a possible cause: i have the wrong power adapter. i need the 90W version, and i have the 65W version. i think the cpu is throttling as a result. is that possible?
[01:38] <JayBau> I guess I will stay in this channel for a while :)
[01:38] <TJ-> cchildress: OK, I scrolled back! Lattitude e6510 :)
[01:38] <cchildress> yup :)
[01:39] <Ponyboy902> Would the windows boot manager option in UEFI get removed upon install of Ubuntu?
[01:39] <TJ-> cchildress: I've never checked if that happens; my Dell's do the same thing though with the boot-time warning of the wrong adapter
[01:39] <TJ-> cchildress: actually that wouldn't make sense else it'd almost imply it locks the frequency when running only on battery.... have you tried that?
[01:40] <bewbz> lopx: I'm googling repartition
[01:40] <Ponyboy902> Also would removing Ubuntu's partitions remove the GRUB option in UEFI boot as soon as i hit delete on the partition or would i have to go in manually and remove?
[01:40] <cchildress> TJ-: well, is there a way in software to raise the reported maximum frequency of reallyslowMHz?
[01:40] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Not if you install Ubuntu using the Dual Boot option
[01:40] <cchildress> TJ-: the battery is mostly dead, but let me see
[01:41] <TJ-> cchildress: There is/used to be a package laptop-mode-tools which might be controlling the freq
[01:41] <cchildress> TJ-: no, it seems to be identical on battery
[01:41] <bewbz> lopz: i did not partition. I got rid of windows 7 altogether. it wasn't genuine and i was fed up with all the remindres to buy a real version
[01:41] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach would it remove gRUb then if i remove ubuntu's partitions or would i have to manually remove the option in UEFI
[01:42] <cchildress> TJ-: that package is still around in 15.x
[01:42] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: I don't believe so, pretty sure you'll have to remove the Ubuntu partition and edit the Windows one to take up your whole hard drive
[01:42] <lopx> bewbz: ah, I think you're ok
[01:42] <andschwa> I need to emulate `login -f root` in a script, followed by a command
[01:42] <bewbz>                    i thnk so too
[01:42] <TJ-> cchildress:  but not installed by default I don't think, so unless it is installed we can ignore it
[01:43] <andschwa> I'm using Ubuntu in a container and need /run/utmp populated so that `getlogin()` returns the user's name, not null
[01:43] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach so Windows install disc, and startup recovery and repair mbr or Reset windows and let it repartition the drives?
[01:43] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: That may not be 100% correct though, I am very confident in what I just said though
[01:43] <cchildress> TJ-: it is best not to have it, then?
[01:43] <andschwa> Since containers don't tend to use init, /run/utmp is left empty
[01:43] <TJ-> cchildress: take a look at the scripts in "/usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/"
[01:44] <andschwa> `login -f root` will populate it, but I need to follow it up with arbitrary commands (and an exit)
[01:44] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Is your current Windows install corrupt or broken? Or do you just want to delete Ubuntu?
[01:44] <andschwa> any ideas?
[01:44] <Ponyboy902> I'm really wanting to intsall ubuntu but that main reason has me scared :P
[01:44] <cchildress> TJ-: i'm there
[01:45] <Ponyboy902> I had upgraded to windows 10 and guess what? It broke a lot of things.. I had to revert to windows 8 3 days ago
[01:45] <Ponyboy902> via recovery drive
[01:45] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Haha I know it can be scary but you'll definitely be safe if you select the "Dual boot" option, I believe it is, I'll check now
[01:45] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach so do install alongside windows boot manager?
[01:46] <Ponyboy902> it looks like it was selected by default in the installer
[01:46] <cchildress> TJ-: i had problems with cpu frequency scaling in my other laptop running 15.04, as well. it was running an older amd cpu though so i thought maybe that made a difference.
[01:46] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup" That is the option you need
[01:46] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Yeah that's what I have
[01:46] <columbobaas> Androirc
[01:46] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Never had a problem
[01:47] <TJ-> cchildress: I've grepped for any indication of freq control scripts - nothing. I also can't find any mention of installed packages that affect the freq. I can't image why the CPU would be limited unless some tool is choosing to do it
[01:47] <TJ-> cchildress: really? Let's see if there are any known bugs about that
[01:47] <Ponyboy902> DrRoach would anyone here be able to help me remove GRUB in the UEFI if i ever decided to remove ubuntu?
[01:47] <cchildress> TJ-: i agree - but the only way for me to tell, is to try another distro (maybe a live cd), or try windows
[01:48] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: You can just delete the partition that the GRUB loader is saved onto
[01:48] <squinty> Ponyboy902,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:48] <Ponyboy902> Drroach did you get my msg?
[01:49] <DrRoach> Ponyboy902: Yeah
[01:50] <columbobaas> Is it okay to compile the latest kernel?
[01:50] <andschwa> columbobaas: sure, why not? I usually build of linux-next
[01:51] <columbobaas> Maybe losing stability
[01:52] <TJ-> cchildress: is this after resuming from suspend (sleep) ?
[01:52] <andschwa> columbobaas: I mean, everything has a level of stability, I'd say that linux-next is like a reallllly solid beta
[01:52] <andschwa> columbobaas: and if you do encounter a bug, well then, you've done some good Linux!
[01:52] <cchildress> TJ-: the more i research it, the more i think it may be something in the bios detecting an under-powered supply and limiting my clock multiplier
[01:53] <TJ-> cchildress: this suggests a solution, check it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296653/ubuntu-13-04-cpu-frequency-scaling-stuck-on-lowest-frequency
[01:53] <columbobaas> I've installed my linux distros more than 200 times i think
[01:53] <cchildress> TJ-: thanks, i'll try that
[01:54] <columbobaas> Mostly black screen after kernel compile
[01:54] <columbobaas> Cannot load x
[01:56] <TJ-> !mainline | columbobaas
[01:57] <JayBau> is anyone familiar with this error
[01:57] <JayBau> (gedit:2820): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[01:57] <JayBau> this happen when I do gedit /path/to/file
[01:58] <JayBau> and when I saved the file, another one will be created like filename~
[01:59] <internetwork_exp> hello
[02:00] <ruzekle> Is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[02:00] <spaceburrito> That seems like a loaded question. O.o
[02:01] <lopx> ruzekle: wouldn't is x better than y ;/ have to see for yourself
[02:01] <spaceburrito> I suppose it would depend on which criteria you're evaluating it on, though.
[02:01] <columbobaas> For desktop it is, Debian ->server
[02:01] <ruzekle> I've been trying to decide that for myself all day. I like Debian stable because the experience seems better than Ubuntu LTS.
[02:01] <spaceburrito> They're both pretty great, imo. I use Ubuntu on my laptops and Debian on my desktops.
[02:02] <al2o3-cr> JayBau: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83026/prevent-gedit-from-creating-files-with-the-tilde-suffix # take a look at this
[02:02] <columbobaas> Debian is more control by yourself
[02:02] <Guest32873> ruzekle: I don't think one is better than the other, just different.  One distro may suit my needs better than the other, that's all.
[02:03] <JayBau> al2o3-cr: thanks, I will read up
[02:03] <al2o3-cr> that's link is to just stop gedit creating the backup file though
[02:03] <columbobaas> Hmm distros like deepin or bodhi are really "bad"
[02:04] <ruzekle> I've tried Deepin and didn't like it. I can't pick between Debian or Ubuntu.
[02:04] <columbobaas> Deepin is okay the first hour.
[02:05] <ruzekle> When I tried Deepin it's software center did not support English, and they had advertisements. Very strange experience.
[02:05] <artois> deepin what?
[02:05] <artois> ...side ${"actress"}?
[02:05] <Guest32873> columbobaas: Well, yea, some are cobbled together and well organized, but the mainstream ones like Ubuntu and Debian are very  well put together and organized.  But this is off topic here.
[02:06] <ruzekle> artois: http://www.deepin.org/
[02:06] <artois> distro for people with expensive hardware?
[02:06] <columbobaas> It is Ubuntu based haha
[02:06] <artois> haha...
[02:07] <ruzekle> Doesn't that break trade mark or copyright?
[02:07] <squinty> !deepin
[02:07] <spaceburrito> ruzekle: what do you mean?
[02:08] <squinty> it means it is off topic  #ubuntu-offtopic  for non support chats
[02:08] <ruzekle> kk I'll move there, squinty.
[02:09] <internetwork_exp> hey I'm pretty much a novice to Ubuntu... I have a question concerning editing  iwlwifi.conf
[02:09] <JayBau> supressing gtk warning seems to be complicated :)
[02:09] <ki7rw> well, if adobe isn't providing the latest flash player for linux then what is one to do?
[02:09] <internetwork_exp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616119/unstable-wireless-with-intel-7260-iwlwifi-after-upgrade-to-15-04
[02:09] <spaceburrito> ki7rw: gnash, perhaps?
[02:09] <TJ-> JayBau: did you see that error when running gedit as root user?
[02:09] <internetwork_exp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616119/unstable-wireless-with-intel-7260-iwlwifi-after-upgrade-to-15-04
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> Turn OFF 802.11n mode (in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1)
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> Turn ON link aggregation (in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=8)
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> Turn OFF watchdog (in /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf add options iwlwifi wd_disable=1)
[02:10] <ki7rw> i've heard that there's a move to html5 which is suppose to replace flash but it seems that there are still websites requiring flash
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> I'm not sure on what syntax I need to use to add these options
[02:10] <internetwork_exp> just simply enter a new line
[02:11] <internetwork_exp> and type "options iwlwifi11n... etc..." for each option?
[02:11] <TJ-> internetwork_exp: add each option as a new line in the form "options <module-name> option1=value1[,option2=value2]"
[02:11] <CreativeWolf> heya all :)
[02:11] <CreativeWolf> My user account on my boxlet is cw and by default the mail has been created as cw@mydomain.com - How do I change cw to something else please?
[02:12] <internetwork_exp> Thanks TJ, will do it now...
[02:12] <TJ-> internetwork_exp: note that "11n_disable=1" and "11n_disable=8" are mutually exclusive... you would need to combine the values to use both as in "11n_disable=9"
[02:13] <JayBau> do you guys can access my machine: http://desktop.bauson.com/
[02:13] <JayBau> I just tried to forward my port 80
[02:14] <JayBau> probably open port 22 too for ssh, so I could access it on my phone
[02:15] <JayBau> need to head of now
[02:15] <JayBau> ttyl
[02:18] <lopx> tryng to debload ubuntu :(
[02:18] <lopx> debloaT*
[02:19] <somsip> !minimal | lopx
[02:19] <lopx> yeah... that's the problem and my last resort :)
[02:19] <somsip> lopx: I'd suggest making it the first resort
[02:20] <lopx> going to have to flip the coin then :)
[02:21] <lopx> in any case gtg, see you
[02:23] <M1ST1C> Do you guys have a rizon channel? I don't like having my IP address made public because somebody crashed my  router
[02:23] <Ponyboy902> You know what.. Secret windows.. I'm switching altogether.. I can use wine to run Roblox..
[02:23] <Ponyboy902> *Secrew windows
[02:23] <somsip> !cloak | M1ST1C
[02:23] <M1ST1C> thanks
[02:25] <colincolby> I have a working PPTP server after having used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer but Deluge, my bittorrent client, is showing ports are not being forwarded.  Since this pptpd is for only one login at a time, is there a way to set it as DMZ?
[02:26] <Ponyboy902> Apparantly Microsoft knows not what best for my PC but the ubuntu community probably does :P
[02:28] <colincolby> or, don't ports get forwarded by UPnP? can i enable that?
[02:28] <M1ST1C> I just figured out my problem. I had to mess around with the partition. now I have more memory
[02:32] <M1ST1C> It says in the forums that ubuntu 12.04 32bit version supports the dell inspiron 1011.
[02:35] <wileee> more swap heh, but their gone
[02:35] <Guest17679> hi
[02:36] <satellite_> aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[02:36] <rob_01> hi
[02:36] <Guest17679> anybody help me to using reaver
[02:41] <wileee> Guest17679, reaver? let us know the issues for help.
[02:41] <JayBau> ping me
[02:42] <s9iper1> i have installed windows and  lost my grub how can i get it back with 14.4.2 64 bit ?
[02:42] <wileee> !grubfix
[02:42] <wileee> !grub
[02:42] <artois> repair?
[02:43] <wileee> s9iper1, ^^^
[02:43] <s9iper1> thanks :)
[02:43] <wileee> np ;)
[02:44] <Blaster> I'm having trouble adding an entry to my fstab file for auto mounting my virtualbox share on my guest. It boots into emergency mode unless I comment it out. How could I determine the issue?
[02:45] <Blaster> Here is the problematic fstab file, and the entry at the bottom is the one casting me into emergency land...http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004440/
[02:47] <wileee> Blaster, Nver heard of this myself, you have any links on doing this?
[02:47] <Blaster> wileee: What do you mean, "links on doing this"?
[02:47] <wileee> Blaster, What makes you think this will work? is the question
[02:48] <wileee> if it is possible, then I would like to know personaly
[02:48] <Blaster> Well, I type "sudo mount -t vboxsf -o gid=redstar -o uid=redstar books ~/proj/books" to do it manually, so I figured I could use fstab to mount it on boot.
[02:49] <h1m31> hm
[02:49] <h1m31> 4ntr4X are u here...?
[02:49] <Blaster> http://askubuntu.com/questions/365346/virtualbox-shared-folder-mount-from-fstab-fails-works-once-bootup-is-complete
[02:50] <wileee> Blaster, shared folder or the vm file?
[02:50] <Blaster> Shared directory between host and guest, and I'm trying to mount it on boot from the guest which is Ubuntu.
[02:52] <wileee> Blaster, It is in your running host right a folder?
[02:52] <Blaster> Solution at above link worked for me.
[02:52] <Blaster> Correct.
[02:53] <wileee> Blaster, YOu have it fixed, great.
[02:54] <Blaster> wileee: Yep. Thanks!
[02:59] <Ponyboy902> Poll: should I install Ubuntu tonight or think about it for a few days?
[02:59] <Ezequiel> Hola :D
[02:59] <wileee> !polls
[02:59] <Ezequiel> Spanish
[02:59] <wileee> !poll
[02:59] <wileee> Ponyboy902, no polling
[03:00] <Ponyboy902> wilee its against the rules? :(
[03:00] <Ponyboy902> Do i need to disable fast startup on windows in order to use Ubuntu?
[03:00] <Guest14779> wmaker?
[03:00] <wileee> Ponyboy902, Yeah, if we allowed it we would never really help anyone.
[03:01] <wileee> !uefi | Ponyboy902 this will help
[03:01] <Ponyboy902> wileee so that is a yes disable fast startup?
[03:02] <wileee> Ponyboy902, No iot's read the wiki on this.
[03:02] <wileee> it's
[03:04] <wileee> Ponyboy902, There is great uefi help here, but the manuals seem key for the helper and user in this area.
[03:15] <SKANZ> can anyone help me with a problem?
[03:17] <Bashing-om> SKANZ: Not without the details .
[03:18] <SKANZ> Well , im trying to revert my OS back from Ubuntu to windows 7 but everytime i try to use the usb boot tool with my torrented ISO file (Windows Boot File) it doesnt register in the program.
[03:19] <wileee> SKANZ, You need ##windows
[03:19] <wafflejock> SKANZ, http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-windows-iso-to-a-usb-device
[03:20] <wafflejock> yeah beyond that it's probably windows question really
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[03:24] <JockRich> !ops squinty
[03:39] <tony_> hello
[04:03] <wripimp> man barcode
[04:03] <wripimp> does anyone on use barcode package ?
[04:05] <OneMatt> Wow, it is amazing how much like windows lubuntu feels, but in a good way.
[04:05] <wripimp> ya till ya try search
[04:06] <OneMatt> Oh?
[04:07] <OneMatt> I don't see anything wrong with the search.
[04:07] <wripimp> yes remove the online search in unity and its wonderful
[04:07] <OneMatt> Oh, lubuntu doesn't use unity.
[04:07] <OneMatt> It uses lxde.
[04:08] <OneMatt> So it is just like a classic windows search.
[04:08] <wripimp> true me to | but most run out-box-special
[04:09] <OneMatt> Anyway, this box needs it's software to be fairly stripped down.
[04:09] <OneMatt> It is a 2002 model, and not a very amazing one at that.
[04:10] <OneMatt> And it is currently housed out of a cardboard box.
[04:10] <wripimp> lol sounds like my server
[04:10] <wripimp> lxde --no-reccomend-install
[04:10] <edgardoweb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlLHc60egiQ&feature=youtu.be
[04:11] <OneMatt> Um, I don't think that that link is SFW.
[04:12] <OneMatt> Judging by the google results with safe search off, anyway...
[04:12] <wripimp> lol
[04:12] <OneMatt> Yes, safe search off.
[04:13] <OneMatt> Great way of turning harmless searches into "Oh my god, I had no idea this kind of thing existed, and I wish I still didn't know...".
[04:14] <wripimp> yep welcome to window$ vi$ta
[04:14] <OneMatt> Please don't remind me of that thing.
[04:15] <wripimp> sry | i got 5 here tring to setup a biz pos with it around & barcode printer
[04:18] <pony9909> What would be advantages of dual booting Ubuntu with windows 8
[04:18] <pony9909> and what are the advantages of using Ubuntu in general if you can do mostly the same stuff on windows?
[04:18] <wripimp> recovering for windows updates
[04:19] <OneMatt> Um, in under 3 minutes, how do you get a bat out of the house?
[04:19] <wileee> pony9909, No polling, huge unanswerable question anyway.
[04:19] <pony9909> Its not Polling!
[04:20] <pony9909> or at least i didn't mean it to be
[04:20] <wileee> pony9909, It is within the channel guidelines
[04:20] <mate_> linux is easier
[04:20] <wripimp> It really depends on what you wanting to accomplish? Play or Productivity
[04:20] <pony9909> mate_ is it faster with games like club penguin, adventure quest, cat mario, etc.?
[04:21] <wileee> that answer should be a red flag honestly
[04:21] <wripimp> really
[04:21] <pony9909> I don't want an OS for office.
[04:21] <pony9909> I want something for games
[04:21] <wripimp> pony9909 search man wine
[04:21] <wileee> pony9909, Load a virtual and try it out, decide for yourself.
[04:21] <mate_> yes if not using firefox 36-39 in linux draw back
[04:22] <pony9909> wileee if i install it on my hdd would it hurt anything to remove Ubuntu the next day if i don't like it?
[04:22] <wileee> mate_, YOU are not even close to helping
[04:22] <pony9909> I have a windows factory recovery disk that has automatic repairs scan on it
[04:22] <pony9909> Ugh..
[04:23] <mate_> if u using chruium in linux yes
[04:23] <pony9909> Windows update is trying to install windows 10 again!! :|
[04:23] <mate_> game yes
[04:23] <wileee> pony9909, No as long as you know what you're doing, a W8 dualboot is not a sure beginners install or remove
[04:23] <wripimp> pony9909, I would reccomend you try VirtualBox and test sounds like you might not what to move away from mr.gates point & click
[04:23] <pony9909> My computer don't have intel virtualization support thing though :(
[04:23] <wripimp> dont need it
[04:24] <pony9909> Wileee you guys would help me remove Ubuntu if needed in a few days right?
[04:24] <wripimp> x86 ftw
[04:24] <wileee> mate_, Probably does just needs it turned on
[04:24] <wripimp> read gnu gpl please
[04:25] <wileee> pony9909, Just remember this is free volunteer help, best achieved by having good details.
[04:25] <wripimp> +exp for reading Doc's
[04:25] <wileee> pony9909,  Probably does have vm support,just needs it turned on
[04:26] <pony9909> wileee no it don't have vm support lol.. Intel site say the pentium b960 don't have it at all
[04:26] <wileee> pony9909, If you think your just may remove try a live disk or usb
[04:26] <pony9909> I tried live usb and i loved it.
[04:27] <wileee> pony9909, This a manufacturer W8 or your install?
[04:27] <pony9909> I loved the software center, how wallpapers i use looks, how the default theme looks, and how it makes everything else looks, and how there is a actual start menu
[04:27] <pony9909> wileee Acer/Gateway shipped this laptop with Windows 8.0
[04:28] <wileee> I use start8 in W10 for a menu
[04:29] <wileee> pony9909, Ah, I asked as with W8 there is a different partitioning and table setup, a little more difficult for some, but there are wiki's and help here and the forums.
[04:30] <mate_> i use chim mint 17.1 i wont go back w8
[04:31] <wileee> mate_, Then why are you here just giving garbage support and mindless comments?
[04:31] <mate_> i
[04:31] <mate_> use rasp
[04:32] <AndroidHacker> would any problems arise by installing MATE inside of xubuntu.. im assuming i could install any desktop env without problem but just double checking
[04:33] <mate_> i use raspberry pi in unbuntu mate 15.04
[04:33] <wileee> AndroidHacker, Pretty much any of the ubuntu de yeah, and many more really
[04:33] <AndroidHacker> so it should be ok?
[04:33] <desmond> can't think of anything that could go wrong, AndroidHacker
[04:33] <wileee> AndroidHacker, Yes
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> ok thanks guys
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> just checking
[04:34] <wileee> AndroidHacker, Probably a good sized download, is all, different base
[04:34] <wileee> de base
[04:34] <AndroidHacker> yea no problemo there
[04:34] <wileee> cool, carry on. ;)
[04:35] <AndroidHacker> ty
[04:35] <wileee> np
[04:35] <mate_> 1.1 g drown done total 3g
[04:36] <wileee> AndroidHacker, I just noticed you said inside, it is a separate desktop, I think you meant that.
[04:36] <wileee> however they may share apps
[04:37] <mate_> no
[04:38] <desmond> mate installed "inside" the system of xubuntu sounds correct to me
[04:39] <wileee> desmond, Only in a vm, you can't install these desktops inside each other.
[04:40] <mate_> i put mate in rasp pi
[04:40] <wileee> xubuntu de on a mate install, yes, any desktop on any install is athe same
[04:40] <desmond> thought xubuntu was the system and XFCE was the DE
[04:41] <wileee> desmond, nothing to do with mate, but yes xfce is xubuntus bas
[04:41] <wileee> base
[04:42] <wileee> lxde=lubuntu mate is a fork of gnome 2
[04:42] <wileee> it is confusing at first, a lot to know and learn. ;)
[04:46] <DalekSec> Well, it'd be different default configuration and set of applications as well, but yes those are the DEs used.
[04:48] <CreativeWolf> heya all
[04:48] <CreativeWolf> My user account on my boxlet is cw and by default the mail has been created as cw@mydomain.com - How do I change cw to something else please?
[04:49] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, what's a boxlet?
[04:49] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, typically you can just use the users panel I believe if you can't find it I'm sure I can dig up the usermod command for it
[04:50] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, linux box
[04:50] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, also what's CW try to keep the acryonms to a minimum
[04:50] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, cw is my username in the server
[04:51] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, ah gotcha my bad I just read that sentence weird
[04:51] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, http://askubuntu.com/questions/170244/usermod-change-the-username that covers doing it at the command line if you're using ubuntu server
[04:51] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, I created a user account cw and I've got exim installed. My email now is cw@mydomain.com which I'd like to be howl@mydomain.com
[04:52] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, otherwise in a desktop install you can use the GUI Users app I think (I believe there's one by default)
[04:52] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, I'd like to retain my username as "cw" but would want "howl@mydomain.com" as my email associated for this account.
[04:52] <wafflejock> hmm k I've configured postfix before but never exim
[04:52] <wafflejock> !exim
[04:53] <Prueba> hola
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !es | Prueba
[04:54] <Prueba> gracias
[04:56] <xdb3916> hi
[04:56] <xdb3916> hi everyone
[04:57] <wileee> hi
[04:58] <xdb3916> woow, got someone to talk
[04:59] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, yeah sorry don't know any details on that, think I've used exim here or there to send out some e-mails via gmail, and typically you can just change the from headers on an e-mail but some servers will send those to spam, it helps if you configure SPF and DKIM for the mail server some details here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2782380/best-practices-sending-email-on-behalf-of-users
[04:59] <sinaloko> i have problems with cheese n xubuntu 15.04 i cant take a photo its seems only black color the video its good but the photo nope
[04:59] <cfhowlett> xdb3916, this isn't  social chitchat channel.  state your ubuntu problem or assist someone else with a problem.  otherwise : #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better channel for your
[05:00] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, the on behalf of thing might not be a problem since it's all going to be coming from the same domain that's more if you have one mail server sending stuff for some other domain I believe
[05:01] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, Yes one mail server multiple domains
[05:01] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, yeah would definitely recommend reading up on SPF and DKIM then to help you avoid getting dumped into the SPAM on gmail and other servers
[05:02] <xdb3916> 3ks
[05:02] <mate_> any one talk about computers base on computers
[05:02] <cfhowlett> sinaloko, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:02] <sinaloko> i need help please =)
[05:03] <mate_> who here
[05:03] <sinaloko> e
[05:03] <BuzzardBuzz> press the any key for help
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !ot | mate_
[05:04] <sinaloko> ??
[05:04] <squinty> !details | sinaloko
[05:04] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 <-- I actually had this link saved that may be useful for Exim and I generally used this guide for postfix but it took some fiddling around I couldn't just follow it straight through, still useful to learn to debug some of the things http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-secure-auth
[05:05] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, Thanks, will take a look :)
[05:07] <wafflejock> CreativeWolf, yeah good luck, for me that was definitely a marathon but I am happy to have an e-mail server that is pretty secure and spam-assasin works well and can do all the kind of forwarding or catch all stuff you want pretty easily once it's all in place
[05:08] <CreativeWolf> wafflejock, Thanks much :)
[05:11] <llLogic> 1 not fully installed or removed. How do I remove a package from failing to install after everything else im installing?
[05:11] <llLogic> everytime I install something it tries to install a failed package from a week ago
[05:12] <joral> I don't know if this is a system issue or network issue (I have had numerous performance issues since my new att modem) but everytime I try to run apt-get update it will hang and I have to ctl-c and re-run it.  It will always run the second time but not the first.
[05:12] <joral> llLogic: "apt-get -f install"
[05:13] <mate_> goto reposisory redo it
[05:13] <badbodh> !guidelines
[05:13] <badbodh> !guidelines | badbodh
[05:14] <mate_> in unbuntu and mint re do it
[05:14] <llLogic> joral, I dont think that worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/12004904/
[05:15] <mate_> if goto command do update is not good
[05:16] <DalekSec> mate_: Please stop randomly saying stuff.
[05:16] <joral> llLogic: is this relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/g15daemon/+bug/617101
[05:17] <joral> ubottu: great minds think alike?
[05:17] <joral> sorry I love the bot logic lol
[05:17] <wileee> llLogic, The "broken install is from the ubutu repos or your install from the web, it is in the repos.
[05:18] <llLogic> from my reading it would have never worked reguardless because g15stats has no support for g13 even though they have the same screen
[05:18] <llLogic> so I just need to remove it
[05:18] <llLogic> but I cant figure out how
[05:19] <joral> llLogic: should simply use 'apt-get remove <package_name>'
[05:19] <wileee> not if broken, and removing relys on how it was installed
[05:20] <mate_> sudo or root apt-get
[05:21] <llLogic> wow that simple, thank you. Im a convert from windows.. I needed simple help. thank you joral
[05:21] <squinty> sudo dpkg --configure -a    maybe if download was from repo's
[05:21] <cfhowlett> mate_, that's false misinformtion.  There is NO reason to run root!  stop giving bad advice
[05:21] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | mate_
[05:22] <joral> wileee: touche, wasn't thinking about broken packages/dependencies during removal.  thank you for correcting me
[05:22] <wileee> joral, Heh, if it is really gone that was lucky, ;)
[05:22] <mate_> yes i im i know in mint
[05:22] <cfhowlett> !mint | mate_, mint is not supported here.  sorry.
[05:23] <cfhowlett> mate_, and if you KNOW your info is bad, don't give it!
[05:23] <joral> wileee: I do have to say apt/dpkg has gotten a lot "smarter" over the last few years.  I believe my first run in with ubuntu was ~6.x and it wasn't always as fault tolerant as it is today
[05:24] <mate_> mints almost all unbuntu
[05:24] <cfhowlett> mate_, mint is not ubuntu.  mint is not supported here.  at all.
[05:24] <wileee> joral, MY guess from the error it was not built although showing broken, the cache saw it as broken, an update probably would of mattered, just guessing though.
[05:25] <joral> mate_: no, its actually its own distro. just as the sift workstation install that I am running is not ubuntu.
[05:25] <cfhowlett> !flavors | mate_ these are the ONLY ubuntus supported here.   NOTE:  mint is not on the list.
[05:26] <mate_> my rasp is unbuntu 15.04 mate that deferate some
[05:27] <joral> wileee: good call, the paste bin he posted showed 6 not updated.  possibly time for a dist-upgrade?
[05:27] <wileee> probably
[05:28] <wileee>  might be kernels..etc, had a few updates lately
[05:28] <joral> llLogic: that might be something to consider
[05:28] <llLogic> oh i already did, thank you
[05:28] <joral> wileee: a few, this last week was rediculous lol
[05:29] <wileee> yeah, I think the first in trusty had issues I had the 4.2 running so never noticed.
[05:30] <joral> wileee: the SIFT install defaulted to stable (which surprised me given the customization from SANS) so I just left it as stable.  like three different kernels in as many days lol
[05:30] <wileee> cool gotta go to work, later
[05:30] <joral> later
[05:31] <llLogic> i did a apt-get update and apt-get dist-update and I still have a "1 not upgraded" message. what could it be?
[05:32] <llLogic> never mind, i need to read. found it
[05:32] <joral> llLogic: did it say one was held back? do you know which packag..... nvm, then lol
[05:32] <Waddup> llLogic you should paste results and command used so we can help you further
[05:32] <llLogic> libgbm1 , launchpad?
[05:32] <llLogic> it was held back
[05:33] <nimbiotics> hI. I have an Ubuntu 143.04LTS VBox I've been using for a while noe. A while ago I accessedd it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then hows the login screen again. I can stillaccess my VBox via ssh with Putty, bit I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to...
[05:33] <nimbiotics> ...fix this? TIA!
[05:34] <llLogic> deb https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/14.04/main trusty main
[05:34] <llLogic> oops
[05:35] <joral> llLogic: you cant add the repo to iirc lol
[05:35] <llLogic> how do I add a repository for ubuntu?
[05:35] <llLogic> yeah lol
[05:35] <llLogic> yeah some guy had the same issue but with elementary os
[05:35] <llLogic> https://www.reddit.com/r/elementaryos/comments/344g2j/the_following_packages_have_been_kept_back_libgbm1/
[05:39] <mate_> hamradio do u have d-rats
[05:40] <joral> llLogic: what ubuntu version are you running?
[05:42] <llLogic> 14.04 trusty
[05:43] <squinty> mate_,  http://www.d-rats.com/component/content/article/31-d-rats-apt-repository/   ppa for it.... usual caveats and use at your own discretion
[05:44] <mate_> i use unbuntu
[05:44] <squinty> mate_,  ppa repo's are for ubuntu
[05:45] <mate_> dont need to use ppa rasp
[05:46] <aurorauser> so when I run df -h
[05:46] <aurorauser> it says Size is 912GB and used is 758GB
[05:46] <aurorauser> but it says Available is 108GB
[05:46] <squinty> mate_,  ok obviously if you want help then either mature up and detail your problem or get ignored.
[05:46] <aurorauser> its not accounting for 50GB and idk what to do
[05:47] <aurorauser> I've tried rebooting and running fsck
[05:47] <aurorauser> to no avail
[05:47] <mate_> i type sudo apt-get i what i want no ppa
[05:47] <aurorauser> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12004977/
[05:48] <squinty> mate_,  you can use apt-get with ppa
[05:49] <Euryale> hi, I'm having trouble with setting up vsftpd. I just installed vsftpd but for some reason 'service --status-all' doesn't show a 'vsftpd' service. I don't know what's wrong. Why doesn't it show and why can't I start it?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !ppa | mate_
[05:51] <mate_> im using unbuntu 15.04 mate i dont need ppas
[05:51] <BlackDalek> Is it possible to have more than one computer on my wireless LAN connected to soulseek using nicotine+ client?
[05:53] <squinty> mate_,  so what exactly is your question?
[05:53] <mate_> in deb maybe vbox wireshark  no
[05:54] <cfhowlett> huh?
[05:54] <mate_> i here to learn
[05:54] <squinty> like talking to a brick wall
[05:55] <squinty> mate_,  ok will leave you to your efforts then
[05:55] <cfhowlett> mate_, then STOP giving bad advice.
[05:57] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, perhaps ask ##networking??
[06:00] <mate__> test001
[06:07] <xmj> morning
[06:07] <xmj> checkinstall question : is there a way I ca make checkinstall use `make -j <jobsnumber>` arguments?
[06:07] <xmj> aka, have it build the thing i want to build on multiple cores
[06:12] <slicepaperwords> does a raspberry pi play 1080? i would rather buy one of them than using a comp to play my videos and music through my tv
[06:12] <somsip> slicepaperwords: yes, more discussion in #rasbpi (or #raspi)
[06:13] <somsip> er...#rasbpi
[06:13] <slicepaperwords> somsip: ahh thanks
[06:13] <mate_> \
[06:15] <mate__> hey,everybody
[06:15] <mate__> I am a newer
[06:16] <mate_> that one problems no sounds card in rasp
[06:16] <xmj> ahdmi?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> mate_,  >>> #raspi
[06:17] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[06:18] <Starcraftmazter> how would i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04?
[06:18] <Starcraftmazter> ubuntu server 12.04
[06:18] <Starcraftmazter> is it possible to upgrade several versions at once?
[06:18] <somsip> Starcraftmazter: no. Upgrade to what?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> Starcraftmazter, NO NEED.  you can go from LTS to LTS 12.04 > 14.04
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !lts | Starcraftmazter
[06:20] <mate_> dont like rasp pi now one 1gig now hi
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !server | Starcraftmazter, note: there is a server channel
[06:22] <hrg> hi
[06:23] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox I've been using for a while now. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix...
[06:23] <nimbiotics> ...this? TIA!
[06:26] <mate_> there two vboxes there new one and old one the olds one
[06:27] <mate_> the old one works
[06:28] <mate_> will any kno
[06:31] <Starcraftmazter> ty
[06:36] <Gerowen> Thinking of doing an upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 on my laptop.  Backing up all my files to prepare for a clean install.  Anybody running 15.04 right now?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Gerowen, millions.  focus your question on actual issues.
[06:37] <Gerowen> cfhowlett: Well I was just looking to chat in general, you don't have to get snarky.
[06:39] <mate_> the people is rude
[06:41] <mate_> i put 15.04 mate on one of computers
[06:45] <wileee> the people is stupid^^
[06:45] <wileee> mate_, that is
[06:45] <mate_> if u put 15.04 over w8 easy install
[06:46] <mate_> if u put over unbuntu type os long reboot up
[06:48] <al2o3-cr> mate_: you're not making any sense
[06:48] <wileee> just a troll
[06:48] <al2o3-cr> ah
[06:48] <wileee> and a bad one at that lol
[06:48] <backbox> hp
[06:48] <bazhang> !info mate-desktop
[06:49] <al2o3-cr> :) I thought his speech program was scrambled for a minute then
[06:49] <mate_> i have thing vboxs bad files like every else i fix the problems mostly
[06:49] <bazhang> mate_, try #vbox
[06:50] <wafflejock> mate_, this room isn't meant for general chat, many of us are also in #ubuntu-offtopic for random chit chat, this channel is mean to be reserved for support questions and answers specific to certain Ubuntu distros, so as to not complicate giving support remotely through text the people who moderate this room try to keep the topic focused on issues only for those supported distros, other topics are better discussed in more approp
[06:50] <wafflejock> riate channels, most users and volunteers in here just want to get from the problem to a solution as quickly as possible, for random sometimes related to ubuntu chatter with other users head to /join #ubuntu-offtopic for particular topics check the channels people have suggest, not everything is an ubuntu support question
[06:50] <bazhang> wafflejock, rly?
[06:50] <wafflejock> yeah really
[06:50] <bazhang> that was a huge paste
[06:50] <wafflejock> I typed it
[06:50] <bazhang> why not a one liner
[06:51] <wileee> has not worked for hours
[06:51] <wileee> many address to mate_
[07:00] <Guest60697> 这个怎么用的？
[07:00] <fidel_> !jp
[07:00] <fidel_> i hope those are .jp letters
[07:00] <al2o3-cr> !ch
[07:00] <DJones> !cn | hu2015
[07:01] <hu2015> hello word
[07:01] <fidel_> good point DJones ;)
[07:01] <DJones> fidel_: Chinese according to google translate, but not easy to spot the difference for me, not speaking either language
[07:04] <llLogic> i live in japan, its pretty easy to spot the difference imo
[07:04] <ubuntu_> Hey I've put an SSD into my machine (alongside my normal HDD) - booted a live CD and used gparted to copy each GPT partitions (a little fat32, the main ext4 and swap) - over to the SSD
[07:04] <llLogic> chinese is only tradional high stroke count characters, japanese has very simple single stroke characters too
[07:04] <ubuntu_> am I needing to somehow restore GRUB as well or can gparted somehow take the beginnings of the hdd/mbr over for me?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> llLogic, don't feel bad: I've been in Beijing 3 years and still don't read mandarin.  Interviewed yesterday for a Tokyo position
[07:05] <azamrod> s
[07:05] <llLogic> dont feel bad about what?
[07:06] <llLogic> Come to Tokyo, its cleaner but the people are less nice
[07:06] <cfhowlett> eh./  DJones couldn't spot the diff
[07:06] <llLogic> my wife is pretty fluent, im supposed to be studying right now for JLPT3 but im playing games and installing ncmpcpp
[07:07] <cfhowlett> gambatte!
[07:07] <llLogic> warai
[07:07] <cfhowlett> OK, back on topic now ...
[07:07] <llLogic> btw, ganbatte*
[07:07] <cfhowlett> doh!
[07:08] <Insolsence> Is anyone here familiar with upstart?
[07:08] <Insolsence> How could I get an upstart job to properly kill itself on system reboot? I'm trying "stop on (shutdown and reboot)" and then I have a "kill signal INT". But when I reboot the system, the INT isn't sent to the daemon and it's abruptly killed.
[07:12] <SpiderNcider> Ping
[07:12] <cfhowlett> !ping | Spider
[07:12] <SpiderNcider> Ding
[07:22] <solars> hey, can anyone tell me a keylogger that captures browser input? logkeys apparently does not
[07:24] <SpiderNcider> Try keylogger32.exe
[07:24] <solars> hoho
[07:24] <SpiderNcider> Hihi
[07:26] <azamrod> f/ns identify alfonsozr2550
[07:27] <fauzan> hai
[07:28] <fauzan> hallo
[07:28] <BUSY> where can i find some info about unencrypting my /home directory?  i set it up on install but it's now throwing some wrenches into some network stuff i want to do
[07:30] <aurorauser> so when I run df -h
[07:30] <aurorauser> it says Size is 912GB and used is 758GB
[07:30] <aurorauser> its not accounting for 50GB and idk what to do
[07:30] <aurorauser> I've tried rebooting and running fsck
[07:30] <aurorauser> nothing works
[07:31] <Ben64> aurorauser: explain your issue
[07:33] <aurorauser> Ben64: When I run df -h
[07:34] <aurorauser> it says Total 912GB, Used 758GB
[07:34] <aurorauser> and 100GB free
[07:34] <SpiderNcider> Have you tried rebooting?
[07:34] <aurorauser> rebooting and fsck
[07:35] <somsip> SpiderNcider: all of your comments have been jokey or unhelpful. Can you stop now please?
[07:35] <auronandace> aurorauser: maybe you should pastebin the output of df -h
[07:35] <aurorauser> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12004977/
[07:35] <Ben64> might be the reserved space for root
[07:35] <aurorauser> i would think that
[07:35] <aurorauser> but its essentially 3 HDs
[07:36] <aurorauser> 1 HD is mounted to /
[07:36] <aurorauser> and the mountpoint im talking about is an mdadm array
[07:36] <TomyWork> how do i get blkdiscard on ubuntu trusty? according to this it's available on vivid http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/en/man8/blkdiscard.8.html
[07:36] <aurorauser> 2 1TB hard drives in a RAID1
[07:36] <TomyWork> should i just get the package from vivid?
[07:38] <aurorauser> any ideas?
[07:38] <aurorauser> nothing is hung in lsof
[07:38] <auronandace> TomyWork: don't mix packages from different releases, that is a sure-fire way to create problems
[07:38] <aurorauser> and even if it was reboot would have released it anyways
[07:39] <TomyWork> auronandace so what do i do instead? i need blkdiscard because i forgot to turn on discard for my swap partition after dd'ed everything over from my old hdd
[07:39] <TomyWork> +i
[07:41] <k1l> TomyWork: why not making a "discard" to the swap line in fstab?
[07:41] <TomyWork> i did, does that instantly discard the entire swap space?
[07:42] <TomyWork> it's 32 GB and it's rarely ever used up completely
[07:42] <skittishtrigger> Anyone use pugetsystems to build a server?
[07:42] <skittishtrigger> Just curious how they are.
[07:42] <k1l> TomyWork: and the swap space gets discarded on every boot. so after a reboot its done anyway
[07:42] <TomyWork> k1l can i manually trigger that?
[07:42] <k1l> TomyWork: yes, do a swapoff and than a swapon again
[07:43] <TomyWork> did that already
[07:43] <k1l> TomyWork: so? dont worry
[07:43] <auronandace> TomyWork: blkdiscard is in the package util-linux
[07:43] <TomyWork> what i perceive as the symptoms of that missing discard flag is still there
[07:43] <TomyWork> auronandace not on trusty
[07:43] <k1l> TomyWork: i dont understand that panic
[07:44] <TomyWork> k1l my system becomes unusable as soon as swap fills even a little
[07:44] <TomyWork> 100 MB into the swap and i can even free up 3 GB of memory but it still crawls
[07:44] <TomyWork> maybe the untrimmed swap is not the issue
[07:45] <k1l> i dont think that few amount of swap is causing that even if it wanst trimmed.
[07:45] <TomyWork> well the SSD wouldnt slow down per partition, right?
[07:46] <TomyWork> it would slow down globally because it's unaware of partitions
[07:46] <TomyWork> as you can see this problem doesnt make a lot of sense to me :)
[07:47] <k1l> are there known issues with that make and model of that ssd?
[07:48] <crazyhorse18> how can i stop the searching thing (spotlight equivilent) from sending out queries onto the internet
[07:49] <somsip> !adlens | crazyhorse18
[07:49] <crazyhorse18> ah nice
[07:50] <crazyhorse18> thankyou :)
[07:50] <wafflejock> crazyhorse18, it's called the "Dash" in "Unity" which is the default desktop environment just for future reference
[07:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:58] <crazyhorse18> wafflejock: i've only been using ubuntu every day for 7 years... not enough time to learn these thins
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[08:01] <SpiderNcider> What just happened?
[08:01] <ObrienDave> who knows *sigh*
[08:01] <k1l> dont mind the trolls
[08:04] <Kartagis> this looks like the alien signal recently received
[08:05] <TomyWork> that happened before, btw
[08:06] <TomyWork> took ages for Drone` to pick up
[08:11] <chancellor> duely noted
[08:11] <chancellor> #TOR
[08:16] <skittishtrigger> for an os as awesome as ubuntu (for the primary root/boot partition) is it really that big of a gain in server performance to use ssd there?
[08:16] <skittishtrigger> assuming you are using headless and an actual server not a converted desktop
[08:18] <skittishtrigger> I ask because I am thinking of re-doing my entire server configuration next time I bring it down for maintence. And I was thinking a regular hard drive might be better for the os and use thessd for one of the game servers instead (seperating some fo them out as there are 5 runnign on one ssd atm)
[08:18] <auronandace> skittishtrigger: i suppose it would depend on the server's function. If it involves a heavy amount of reads and writes then an ssd would wear out faster than a trraditional harddrive
[08:19] <skittishtrigger> so maybe an enterprise grade sas type hd for the os and ssds for the game/webservers/sql server and several raid sata style drives mirrored for the backup functions?
[08:20] <skittishtrigger> Sorry, I am not completely new to ubuntu and servers but I am woeful lacking in the area of efficiency and proper setup of a real server.
[08:22] <auronandace> skittishtrigger: i'm certainly no expert in server setup so perhaps the guys in #ubuntu-server can help out
[08:23] <skittishtrigger> ya i was mroe curious as to opinions. Seems a lot of this is subjective on a case by case basis. BUt thanks for your input :)
[08:23] <Qantourisc> What network managers are avaible for ubuntu ?
[08:24] <Qantourisc> Also any documentation on intalling it in LXC ?
[08:27] <arcsky> hello all, does anyone know how i can do my ssh login to use the windows 2008 radius/nps ?
[08:29] <Mathisen> Hello can someone tell me how i should do if i want to automaticly copy all the /home folders to a diffrent HD like once a day, but i dont want it to copy the files that is already there. if you understand i just want it to copy the files that are new
[08:30] <fidel_> Mathisen: check rsync
[08:30] <ObrienDave> rsync
[08:30] <Mathisen> thx
[08:31] <ObrienDave> rsync will only copy new or files that have changed. i use it every day
[08:31] <fidel_> Mathisen: grsync is an UI for it - but if you are fine using the terminal - stick to it ;)
[08:31] <Mathisen> ObrienDave nice, will it remove stuff to ? i want to have a backup so i dont want it to 100 % clone it
[08:32] <ObrienDave> rsync will remove things that are no longer in your source. if you want it to
[08:32] <Mathisen> i will do some reading, thx for the help :)
[08:33] <ObrienDave> try grsync first. then you can copy the commands to terminal for rsync
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> Mathisen  i guess luckybackup uses rsync too
[08:34] <llutz> Mathisen: for a nice backup solution, look at rsnapshot (based on rsync)
[08:35] <ObrienDave> i have an alias setup (several actually) ;P
[08:35] <ObrienDave> alias h2u31='sudo rsync -avs --progress --delete /home/david/ /media/david/USB003TB001/Backup/David/Sony/Vaio/VPCEB/1500GB/Xubuntu/Home/david/'
[08:36] <ObrienDave> works really good for daily backup
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> ObrienDave  i use a similar alias
[08:36] <ObrienDave> see? great minds think alike :)
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> also with --progress and --delete
[08:40] <ObrienDave> *waves good night*
[08:41] <columbobaas> 10:40am here
[08:41] <lordievader> If you are already using rsync it might be worth it to look into dirvish.
[09:00] <Amnesia> does anyone over here know where to find shutdown logging?
[09:00] <Amnesia> (I'm unable to find it in /var/log/*)
[09:05] <stoogenmeyer__> hey guys, if I have a file containing the text $MY_VAR, and in my shell i do 'export MYVAR=10', then how would I be able to cat the file and have the $MY_VAR replaced with the actual value?
[09:06] <Amnesia> MY_VAR=$(cat filename)
[09:07] <l1n3x> hey guys
[09:07] <l1n3x> how would one access a bit locker to go drive in linux?
[09:10] <wafflejock> stoogenmeyer__: if the text file you're working in is marked executable and is headed with #!/bin/bash, then the $MY_VAR will be replaced when you run the script but not when you view it with cat
[09:11] <stoogenmeyer__> wafflejock: actually just found out about envsubst which works like a charm (can be read about here: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/TemplateFiles)
[09:12] <k1l> Amnesia: it should be at the end of syslog
[09:12] <Amnesia> k1l: it isn't:)
[09:13] <wafflejock> stoogenmeyer__: interesting I would still go the bash route since it's what I know but thanks for sharing :)
[09:13] <k1l> you need to look at the cycled syslog. like syslog.0 or syslog.1
[09:13] <Amnesia> k1l: I know
[09:13] <k1l> Amnesia: ok. what it the issue then?
[09:14] <Amnesia> grep -ri 'failed to unmount' /var/log/*
[09:14] <Amnesia> ^ should gimme teh entries
[09:14] <Amnesia> but there's no such thing
[09:14] <Amnesia> !@#%^&systemd
[09:14] <l1n3x> still here
[09:15] <toby2012> hi pals. anyone can help me with ubuntu server?
[09:15] <fidel_> toby2012: try it
[09:15] <cfhowlett> !server | toby2012
[09:18] <l1n3x> whats the issue?
[09:19] <dhastha> Need Help : Can anyone help me? I am getting following cron error "/etc/cron.daily/apt:
[09:19] <dhastha> *** Error in `/usr/bin/python3': corrupted double-linked list: 0x000000000158c130 ***
[09:19] <dhastha> Aborted"
[09:28] <ethMiner_> hello
[09:28] <JayBau> dhastha: what was the script you have in crontab?
[09:28] <l1n3x> leaving
[09:28] <JayBau> dhastha: crontab -l
[09:29] <ethMiner_> is this script valid http://pastebin.com/DTPdb9X5
[09:31] <ethMiner_> nevermind
[09:32] <dhastha> @JayBau, /etc/cron.daily/apt is running daily
[09:33] <JayBau> dhastha: please crontab -l
[09:34] <dhastha> JayBau, No. It is running by default by system. see /etc/cron.daily/apt
[09:35] <llutz> JayBau: that apt cronjob is part of apt-package, not a users cronjob
[09:35] <dhastha> llutz, exactly
[09:35] <JayBau> dhastha: I had the same problem before, and I noticed that it happens when I don't have enough memory to execute my script
[09:37] <JayBau> dhastha: other than that, you don't have memory consuming script running?
[09:38] <johnzorn> does running any of the apt-get {upgrade,dist-upgrade,full-upgrade} cause something to run a grub installer? I have a custom nongrub boot setup and want to continue managing it myself
[09:38] <dhastha> JayBau: there is no memory consuming script running. The error started from yesterday only
[09:39] <dhastha> JayBau: It was fine before, other two more servers also throwing same error
[09:40] <learner> Hello, can anyone say why free css template is not opening in ubuntu??
[09:41] <learner> am a new user to ubuntu, please help
[09:41] <rory> learner: Are you trying to use Ubuntu as a web server to host a website?
[09:42] <learner> yes rory
[09:42] <rory> learner: What do you have, and what do you mean by not opening?
[09:43] <MoonBurst> I'm having a lot of trouble getting ubuntu to install. I'm pretty sure I'm doing this mostly right though.
[09:43] <MoonBurst> I used unetbootin to put the ISO onto a USB drive, and then at startup told it to boot from the USBHDD. But then instead of booting, it just loads windows anyway :\
[09:44] <popey> MoonBurst: unetbootin is a bit broken for many people
[09:45] <MoonBurst> I also tried the uni usb installer
[09:45] <jpds> MoonBurst: Tried dd?
[09:45] <MoonBurst> dd? no. I haven't seen that yet
[09:46] <learner> rory , i have used windows before working on the linux, i used to download a free template for website but not for the purpose of hosting. But now am in a situation to download a free template website and i need to host that in hosting server. so, i just downloaded a free template website,  its not even opening in firefox web browser.  can you say what the problem is??
[09:46] <MindSpark> hi, guys I am running trusty and I am trying to get the mysql client to run using auto-rehashing/completion. For some reason neither adding auto-rehash in the config nor calling it from the commandline using --auto-rehash or issuing the \# and rehash commands from inside mysql are working
[09:46] <rory> learner: What type of file is it?
[09:46] <MindSpark> is there a known issue for that?
[09:46] <wileee> MoonBurst, Your doing this is windows right?
[09:46] <MoonBurst> Yeah. Trying to escape windows 10 from their new business idea about no privacy.
[09:47] <learner> rory : It's a .zip file
[09:47] <wileee> MoonBurst, Cool, just making sure others know.
[09:47] <MoonBurst> It's a shame too, aside from that privacy issue, I really liked windows 10
[09:47] <rory> learner: What happens when you try to extract the files from it?
[09:48] <rory> learner: You can't open a zip file directly in Firefox... a zip file is an archive containing other files. Right click it and extract, or double click it and drag the files out
[09:48] <wileee> MoonBurst, Computers have a boot menu that is for single sessions, with a key press as if you were going to the bios
[09:48] <MoonBurst> yeah, bios is del. I press f12 to get to boot options
[09:49] <MoonBurst> then from there I tell it to boot from usb hdd, but it sort of ignores me
[09:49] <k1l> MoonBurst: usb-hdds cant be booted in most times as live systems since they are seen as hdds from bios. use a usb pendrive or a dvd
[09:49] <MoonBurst> It's closer to a pendrive anyway, it's a microsd card in a transflash
[09:49] <wileee> MoonBurst, pendrivelinux has several windows usb loaders, you might check the sum of the iso and what you load, all can be done from windows I believe.
[09:50] <learner> rory  yeah, i have extracted and took out the files too, and it has .html file . so i want to run that file, when i try to run the .html file in firefox , its not opening. am using ubuntu
[09:50] <wileee> !sum | MoonBurst
[09:50] <rory> learner: Do you see an error?
[09:50] <rory> learner: If you're in Firefox and you do Ctrl-O (open) and browse to the file and open it that way, does it work?
[09:50] <k1l> MoonBurst: it doesnt matter what it is at the end of 12 adapters :) it counts what the bios will see it as :)
[09:50] <k1l> MoonBurst: regular 2GB usb pendrives are known to work :)
[09:51] <Qantourisc> I'm having troubles using /etc/init.d/networking start, it doesn't give any results (ifup works), (auto has been added for this nic)
[09:51] <wileee> !md5sum | MoonBurst
[09:51] <MoonBurst> Sadly, I don't really have other options. My hardware supply is pretty limited.
[09:51] <learner> rory please wait, i'l let you know now
[09:51] <MoonBurst> I got the 64 bit ubuntu from the official site recently.
[09:51] <LigH> Hello.
[09:51] <MoonBurst> 15.04 I think
[09:52] <LigH> Isup http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ or only timing out for me?
[09:52] <k1l> Qantourisc: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[09:52] <rory> LigH: It's up for me
[09:52] <LigH> o?
[09:52] <LigH> Trying to get http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/15.04/release/ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent ... any mirrors?
[09:53] <Qantourisc> k1l: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:53] <rory> LigH: http://rory.sh/ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[09:53] <learner> rory yeah, it works but the contents in the .html page it's not opening.
[09:53] <rory> Not opening? So you just see a white page? Or what?
[09:53] <rory> Do you know the html file is actually good?
[09:54] <k1l> Qantourisc: did you try the upstart job? sudo service networking start
[09:54] <LigH> Other Germans seem to have a timeout too. Routing issues at T-Online?!
[09:54] <k1l> Qantourisc: do you use the network manager?
[09:55] <rory> LigH: Can you PM me the output of traceroute cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <LigH> Thanks rory, bye for now...
[09:55] <Qantourisc> k1l: can't find it /etc/init.d so i suspect not
[09:55] <LigH> Oh.
[09:55] <rory> LigH: I mean, if you're curious
[09:55] <learner> rory  yeah i worked with the same template in windows ,  no it's not a white page , it's simply shows the firefox webpage
[09:55] <wileee> rory, downloads and starts to torrent here, with a ton oh peers
[09:55] <learner> rory but in ubuntu, its not opening
[09:55] <k1l> Qantourisc: do you use a gui? which one? do you use the network manager applet?
[09:56] <wileee> rory, sorry meant LigH
[09:56] <Qantourisc> k1l: I can't stop or start it
 Qantourisc: do you use a gui? which one? do you use the network manager applet?
[09:56] <Qantourisc> k1l: I have no gui, it's a debootstrap installation in lxc
[09:56] <rory> learner: can you completely close Firefox, and then right-click the html file and select Open with Firefox Web Browser
[09:56] <Qantourisc> ping is not even installed, so no gui either i think
[09:56] <learner> rory  what's the actual way to run that template in firefox browser ? in ubuntu os
[09:57] <Qantourisc> ls /etc/init.d/N* No such file or directory
[09:57] <rory> learner: double click the html file to open it in Firefox
[09:57] <rory> learner: There is no "actual way"
[09:57] <LigH> OK, route via Frankfurt and London (Level3)... just doesn't load any page. I got rory's torrent, thanks. Bye...
[09:57] <Qantourisc> also status-all doesn't show
[09:57] <k1l> Qantourisc: ok, so no need to go on the hunt for networkmanager then if there is no gui.
[09:58] <learner> rory , i have done it, it shows the start page
[09:58] <rory> learner: Would you mind linking me the template you're using so I can see?
[09:58] <Qantourisc> k1l: i know, ifup works, but networking seems to ignore the auto ? iirc "auto" mean run ifup for this name ?
[09:58] <Black_Shadow> hello
[09:58] <learner> rory i thought to say what you have said... :) Please wait
[09:59] <k1l> Qantourisc: i am not familiar with the special setups a lxc containter uses
[10:00] <Qantourisc> k1l: should be equal, i'll see if I can get my hands on strace that should show what is up
[10:00] <learner> rory check this out : http://www.free-css.com/free-css-templates/page1/photoprowess#shout
[10:00] <Qantourisc> k1l: but it's hard to get dns working, without ping :p
[10:01] <Qantourisc> haha ! magic of lxc: just copied the file :D
[10:01] <rory> learner: I see this when I open the HTML file in Firefox http://i.imgur.com/xuYb54j.png
[10:01] <rory> learner: What is in the Firefox address bar after you open it? e.g. in that screenshot it is: file:///home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html
[10:02] <Guest84133> the item "enable mobile broadband" is not present in the menu of the network manager applet. Why?
[10:03] <k1l> Guest84133: do you have a mobile data hardware thingy running?
[10:04] <ethMiner_> im writing a script
[10:04] <ethMiner_> it goes like this exec first exect second
[10:04] <ethMiner_> the first never finishes so it never gets to the second
[10:04] <ethMiner_> how to i go about this
[10:04] <aurorauser> add a ; instead of &&?
[10:04] <ethMiner_> ok
[10:05] <mancomunado> how do I replace in a .txt. from "***"" to "." and then jump a line after the dot?
[10:05] <k1l> ethMiner_: for bash scripting basics you can ask the guys in ##bash for help
[10:05] <learner> rory , after i opened in the firefox . it doesn't show anything. it's simply a startup page ! , if you don't mind can you open the index.html file? What is it showing?
[10:06] <rory> learner: I see this when I open the HTML file in Firefox http://i.imgur.com/xuYb54j.png
[10:06] <rory> learner: What is in the Firefox address bar after you open it? e.g. in that screenshot it is: file:///home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html
[10:06] <MoonBurst> trying to load ubuntu onto my usb has started crashing explorer.exe :\
[10:06] <learner> rory , after i opened in the firefox . it doesn't show anything. it's simply a startup page ! , if you don't mind can you open the index.html file? What is it showing?
[10:07] <Guest84133> k1l, yes
[10:09] <joff> Just like that Elliot
[10:09] <k1l> Guest84133: which one? what port? is it seen in lsusb/lspci? what do the logs say?
[10:09] <rory> learner: I see this when I open the HTML file in Firefox http://i.imgur.com/xuYb54j.png
[10:09] <rory> learner: What is in the Firefox address bar after you open it? e.g. in that screenshot it is: file:///home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html
[10:09] <rory> learner: That's the third time I've asked you. I'll just wait for your answer.
[10:11] <Guest84133> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12005907/
[10:12] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows where to find the shutdown logs? For some reason ubuntu didn't want to shut down, it spent 15 minutes in the "shutting down" screen
[10:12] <k1l> Guest84133: did you do the modeswitch?
[10:13] <rory> kokut: For what it's worth, I've been using Ubuntu for 10 years and it's never once shut down properly without doing that.
[10:13] <Guest84133> k1l, no
[10:13] <kokut> rory: doing what?
[10:13] <Guest84133> k1l, I don't know how to
[10:13] <rory> kokut: hanging indefinitely on the purple shutdown screen
[10:13] <k1l> Guest84133: you are from italy?
[10:14] <Jobbe> Ahoy
[10:14] <Guest84133> k1l, yes
[10:14] <learner> rory  you are asking the right question, but in my side, when i open index.html file using firefox its not displaying any contents nothing but the mozilla firefox startup page. I have tried another file, portfolio.html , it's also seems like opening in browser, but not yet displayed anything.  am i clear to you? Did you got what am saying?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Longshot but I'll ask anyway:  happy owner of the Dell Precision m3800 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 14.04.2  As of 08/05/15, no boot.  It powers on, runs for 7 seconds and shuts down.  No boot splash, no beeps.  I'
[10:14] <kokut> rory: well it never happened to me until now and i won't tolerate it
[10:14] <k1l> Guest84133: a search for "1ee8:0013 ubuntu" brings some italian ubuntu forums and mailinglists. maybe you find the solution there
[10:15] <Guest84133> k1l, maybe it could help a lot if you tell me how to use modeswitch
[10:15] <k1l> Guest84133: for mobile data usb sticks, you sometimes (in most cases) need to bring the stick into the "mobile data" mode. so it is not seen as a regular usb stick. that is called modeswitch
[10:16] <Guest84133> k1l, I see, so what is the syntax of modeswitch
[10:16] <Guest84133> ?
[10:16] <Jobbe> So I've configured a pxe boot server, with multiple install options. One of them is Debian, which i have configured to work with a preseed file. Works flawless. Now. I've gone ahead and configured the same for ubuntu, the intaller works, no problem. But here is my problem. On debian i needed to include a firmware package in initrd.gz, so i unpacked it, created the firmware dir and put in the .deb file, then
[10:16] <Jobbe> repackages it and put back in the pxe dir, debian installs fine without asking for the firmware. But when i do the same procedure on ubuntu, it does not work.
[10:17] <rory> learner: Can you try to open it using the terminal and maybe if there's some error you will see it. Do the following:
[10:17] <rory> learner: first make sure firefox is closed with "killall firefox"
[10:17] <rory> learner: and then open the file with (e.g.) "firefox /home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html" (obviously your path will be different)
[10:17] <k1l> Guest84133: that depends on the exact hardware. i dont know that for every mobile data stick. so please see the italian sites who have done this with that italian hardware stick already.
[10:18] <Guest84133> k1l, ok
[10:18] <k1l> Guest84133: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=403233
[10:18] <learner> rory i can't get u the command "killall firefox" . Do i need to type this in terminal?
[10:18] <Jobbe> this is the firmware package https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek
[10:18] <Jobbe> could it be that ubuntu simply does not reconise this package ?
[10:18] <Guest84133> k1l, but I ask: why is it so complicated. why I can't activate it direct from the applet of network manager?
[10:18] <Jobbe> it's ubuntu 14.04 btw
[10:19] <k1l> Guest84133: because the hardware stick makers dont publish firmware for linux that would do that automatically.
[10:19] <rory> learner: yes
[10:19] <Black_Shadow> what is the italian ubuntu channel???
[10:19] <jpds> !it | Black_Shadow
[10:19] <k1l> !it | Black_Shadow
[10:19] <Black_Shadow> thank
[10:20] <Guest84133> k1l, but the thing is: if I reboot, I connect automatically. why?
[10:21] <learner> rory yes i have typed, it shows firefox : no process found
[10:21] <TJ-> Jobbe: when building the initrd.img, initramfs-tools use the function manaula_add_modules() in "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions" - that code implies the initrd.im needs both the kernel module and firmware. Did you also ensure the kernel module was included and loaded via "/lib/modules" ?
[10:21] <Guest84133> k1l, I mean, I reboot, I do wvdial and everything goes
[10:21] <rory> learner: OK fine that just means firefox is properly closed. Now use the other command I gave.
[10:21] <Guest84133> k1l, but It's not very practicle to reboot every time I need to connect
[10:21] <learner> rory sure
[10:22] <Jobbe>  TJ- I'm not sure about that
[10:23] <Black_Shadow> as you can connect to a server ???
[10:23] <Jobbe> TJ-: how would i go about and check that ?
[10:24] <Jobbe> dammit, i gotta run for a sec, got a server down - TJ- thanks, I'll try read up on that
[10:25] <TJ-> Jobbe: in the initrd, the modules to load are listed in "conf/modules"
[10:26] <k1l> Guest84133: could be a firmware issue on disconnect. please see the guys who have experience with that exact hardware
[10:26] <Guest84133> k1l, my opinion is, if "enable mobile broadband" would be active by default, everything would be fine
[10:28] <rory> learner: afk 10 minutes.
[10:29] <learner> rory can't get you
[10:29] <learner> rory do i need to wait for 10mins?
[10:30] <Cedric_> sup guys
[10:30] <Cedric_> I am having problem running application in Ubuntu 14.04
[10:30] <Cedric_> I found that gksudo is not isntalled by default
[10:31] <Cedric_> I am trying to launch app from the Unity bar with  sudo
[10:31] <Cedric_> is that something possible for unity?
[10:32] <k1l> Cedric_: dont use sudo. sudo is for cli usage and not for GUI. it will break the permissions.
[10:32] <Cedric_> I did tried gksudo
[10:32] <k1l> Cedric_: gksu is the command for gui. but be aware of using root rights only where they are really needed
[10:33] <Cedric_> I also tried changing the .desktop for my application
[10:33] <rory> learner: back
[10:33] <Cedric_> Exec=/opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F
[10:33] <rory> learner: still waiting for you to open the html file in Firefox via the terminal using the command I gave
[10:33] <Cedric_> I update this line to Exec=gksudo /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F
[10:34] <Cedric_> but it's not launching
[10:34] <rory> Cedric_: does it work if you run "gksudo /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F" directly from a terminal?
[10:35] <k1l> Cedric_: see what i wrote :)
[10:36] <Cedric_> rory: gksudo /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F works, but it appears that it is opening a file name %F for editing
 Cedric_: gksu is the command for gui. but be aware of using root rights only where they are really needed
[10:36] <TJ-> Guest84133: Your device (1ee8:0013) is supported by usb-modeswitch. Do "sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch"
[10:36] <rory> Cedric_: Why do you need the %F, I'm not sure of the meaning of that
[10:37] <Cedric_> k1l: I understand that sudo is for cli and gksudo is intended for root
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:37] <learner> rory the command is "killall firefox" right ?
[10:37] <Guest84133> TJ-, i still have usb_modeswitch
[10:37] <rory> learner: killall firefox is just to make sure firefox is closed
[10:37] <rory> learner: and then open the file with (e.g.) "firefox /home/rory/Desktop/photoprowess/index.html" (obviously your path will be different)
[10:37] <k1l> Cedric_: come on. gksudo vs gksu
[10:37] <Cedric_> rory: I just want to add icon in the unity bar that will be executed as root
[10:37] <learner> rory okay, i'l do it now, pls wait
[10:38] <TJ-> Guest84133: Does this command report that device ID? "tar -tzf /usr/share/usb_modeswitch/configPack.tar.gz | grep '1ee8:0013'  "
[10:38] <k1l> Cedric_: you should be a lot more aware of what you do and read when it comes to root priviledges
[10:38] <ivo34> hello I am followind these instructions: http://wiki.winehq.org/Patching  in order to patch a wine installation...but the second part which tells an easy method to revert patches uses git show is there a package needed to get that working?  because it a bash unknown command for my terminal
[10:39] <Cedric_> k1l: here's what I want, I want to add icon to this Unity bar, that when I clicked on it, it will be executed as root
[10:39] <rory> ivo34: you would need to install "git"
[10:39] <Cedric_> k1l: not sure what is not clear with the concern :)
[10:39] <rory> ivo34: What is the complete message you get on the terminal when you try to run the command?
[10:39] <k1l> Cedric_: and i tell you the 10th time now, that its not gksudo anymore but gksu now.
[10:40] <Cedric_> k1l: try in your terminal, gksu or gksudo both works
[10:40] <ivo34> rory my32bitbox:~/wine-git$ git show c959867510703a100106f292cd26cb8f489236bb | patch -p1 -R
[10:40] <ivo34> -bash: git: orden no encontrada
[10:40] <Cedric_> k1l: gksudo is part of the gksu package isn't it?
[10:41] <ivo34> command not found in english sorry
[10:41] <rory> ivo34: yes, you need to install the "git" package (sudo apt-get install git)
[10:41] <ivo34> hmmmm
[10:41] <ivo34> I am using lxc
[10:41] <ivo34> container
[10:41] <k1l> Cedric_: did you change the file in /usr/share/applications/?
[10:41] <ivo34> okay
[10:41] <rory> ivo34: you can't run "git" without having "git" installed.
[10:42] <rory> ivo34: I don't really know what to say/
[10:42] <Cedric_> k1l: gksudo subl and gksu subl both works in terminal, but that's not what I want to happen, I want to add shortut in my unity bar that will be executed as root by default
[10:42] <ivo34> so I need to install git in the container aswell
[10:42] <rory> ivo34: Yes.
[10:42] <ivo34> cook
[10:42] <k1l> Cedric_: did you pin and unpin it afterwards on the launcher bar?
[10:42] <Cedric_> k1l: yes, tried gksudo and gksu
[10:42] <ivo34> cool*
[10:42] <ivo34> thanks
[10:42] <k1l> *unpin and pin
[10:42] <Cedric_> k1l: yes, that's what I have read in askubutu but didn't worked
[10:42] <Guest84133> TJ-, yes, it does
[10:43] <Cedric_> k1l: pin, edit sublime*.desktop, unpin, pin
[10:45] <k1l> is there a error? maybe see .xsession-errors
[10:45] <k1l> in the users home and roots home
[10:45] <learner> rory  its not opening
[10:46] <learner> rory do u have any idea to this in other way?
[10:46] <rory> learner: What full command are you running? And what full output do you see?
[10:46] <rory> learner: If it is many lines, use http://paste.ubuntu.co,
[10:46] <rory> learner: If it is many lines, use http://paste.ubuntu.com *
[10:47] <killer> hey , anyone tried macbook air (2015) on ubuntu ?
[10:47] <Guest84133> TJ-, yes, it does
[10:47] <killer> amd 64 image is supposed to work on mac ?
[10:47] <learner> rory home/suseela/Desktop/3e website project/photoprowess/index.html this is the path i run in firefox
[10:48] <ivo34> hey rory wich one is the patched file here: |--- a/programs/winecfg/Pt.rc
[10:48] <ivo34> |+++ b/programs/winecfg/Pt.rc
[10:48] <rory> ivo34: I have no idea
[10:48] <learner> rory : but it's not opening rory
[10:48] <ivo34> rory btw it worked I needed to install git
[10:48] <rory> ivo34: If the git output is saying +++ it means 3 lines added to that file
[10:49] <ivo34> so that one is the patched one
[10:49] <rory> ivo34: if it is saying (e.g) +++--- it means 3 lines added and 3 lines removed
[10:49] <rory> ivo34: Looks like it
[10:49] <Cedric_> k1l: tried gksudo and gksu, no errors in .xsession
[10:49] <Jobbe> ok I'm back TJ-
[10:49] <rory> learner: I can't help you any further because you won't let me help you by answering my questions
[10:49]  * rory afk
[10:49] <TJ-> Guest84133: in that case when the device is plugged in udevd should execute usb_modeswitch with the configuration settings in its database.  Once configured the modem-manager service should take on management of the device, and tell network-manager about it. Use "nmcli nm" to report the status of the WWAN device
[10:50] <learner> rory : let's discuss about the other way of editing website templates and run it in firefox.
[10:50] <rory> with respect learner if you can't open a file in a program, perhaps web development isn't for you
[10:51] <learner> rory okay, anyother way
[10:51] <Guest84133> TJ-, so which command should I practically give?
[10:52] <Guest84133> TJ-, gives a void answer
[10:52] <Guest84133> TJ-, nmcli nmgives a void ans wer
[10:52] <Guest84133> TJ-, nmcli nm gives a void answer
[10:53] <Jobbe> [12:25:13] <        TJ-> | Jobbe: in the initrd, the modules to load are listed in "conf/modules"
[10:53] <Cedric_> anyways, I think it's something to do with this unity thing, I'll just create a script to run what I want... pif
[10:53] <Jobbe> TJ-: i have extracted the initrd.gz file into /tmp/ubuntu
[10:54] <Jobbe> I see a list of files in /tmp/ubuntu/lib/modules/3.13.0-61-generic
[10:54] <Jobbe> I don't see a conf dir anywhere
[10:55] <Guest84133> TJ , if it so, why it doesn't work?
[10:56] <Jobbe> It appears in this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/595455
[10:56] <Jobbe> that i should be able to load firmware into /lib/firmware hmm
[10:57] <ubuntu608> I got ubuntu to boot into a demo and it gives me the option to install it for real. Are there any issues with dataloss that I might run into if I do that?
[10:59] <ivo34> rory what would you type as the target file? http://pastebin.com/yiYKSv00
[10:59] <Guest84133> TJ, why it works just after reboot?
[11:00] <ubuntu608> I got ubuntu to boot into a demo and it gives me the option to install it for real. Are there any issues with dataloss that I might run into if I do that?
[11:01] <Ahti> ubuntu608, nope
[11:01] <ubuntu608> I just had to check, because the way that it's worded seems a bit odd
[11:05] <Ahti> Infact, doing it from live mode allows you greater partitioning control.
[11:07] <Ahti> Should rephrase that; You have to boot into the "Live Desktop" to do more advanced partitioning to install anyway...
[11:09] <k1l> ubuntu608: well, its a machine. if you give it the false command it can wipe all the data. so be sure to have  a backup of the important stuff.
[11:09] <TomyWork> i'm installing a fresh kubuntu trusty and i want to use LVM, so i'm creating the recommended /boot partition. how big should it be?
[11:10] <TomyWork> i hear numbers ranging from 16 to 500 mb
[11:10] <Fudge> anyone know on the ubuntu-server image the packages to get th etext installer? trying to do it on a cli live cd that isnt server
[11:11] <ethMiner_> i have a script
[11:11] <ethMiner_> .sh
[11:12] <ethMiner_> how do i make it run on startup
[11:12] <k1l> TomyWork: the more the better. most people come into trouble when they have to much kernels installed and /boot is full
[11:12] <k1l> !startup
[11:12] <TomyWork> ethMiner_ as your user? crontab -e and add an @reboot directive
[11:12] <k1l> ethMiner_: depends on when and as whom you want it to run
[11:12] <TomyWork> ethMiner_ if it needs the x server, it's more complicated
[11:12] <k1l> ethMiner_: and i am sure i answered that the last days already several times
[11:13] <TomyWork> k1l i see... so i'll give it 500 MB?
[11:13] <ethMiner_> k1l: if you did answer it correctly i wouldnt be here
[11:13] <k1l> TomyWork: if the hdd is big enough, i would got with 500mb too.
[11:13] <ethMiner_> TomyWork: @reboot /home/shovel/Desktop/launchers.sh
[11:13] <k1l> ethMiner_: so what was my answer?
[11:14] <ethMiner_> i added that to crontab -e
[11:14] <TomyWork> ethMiner_ in that case, you forgot point number 4 in that guide here: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
[11:14] <ethMiner_> k1l: this thing http://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up
[11:15] <pranav> hi.. slightly out of context, but do we have terminal based software for facebook chat?
[11:15] <TomyWork> (which isnt linked anywhere but it's a good read anyway. helps solving some problems on your own even)
[11:15] <ethMiner_> TomyWork: i use the nightly build of Common Sense 2015
[11:15] <ethMiner_> that is obsolete
[11:15] <ethMiner_> can you help me or not?
[11:15] <TomyWork> pranav easiest way is to ask your friends to go to another means of chatting :)
[11:16] <sjoshi> pranav: try weechat with bitlbee
[11:16] <Fudge> pranav:  look up the bitlbee irc server, im.bitlbee.org
[11:16] <sjoshi> i am using that currently and working like charm
[11:16] <k1l> ethMiner_: your attitude is not suitable in here. if you dont like the answers and just want us to do your work, then look out for another comuntiy
[11:16] <Fudge> that does jabber whcih is facebook chat etc
[11:17] <Fudge> same
[11:17] <pranav> sjoshi: Fudge I heard somewhere facebook dicontinued xampp
[11:17] <Fudge> anyone familiar with ubiquity and how to invoke a cli frontend
[11:17] <k1l> ethMiner_: you were geiven 100% right answers all the last days. so if you dont recognize them and or even read them, then stop asking in here. i told you yesterday to use rc.local for example.
[11:18] <ethMiner_> k1l: i give you legitimate proof that they dont work
[11:18] <Fudge> ethMiner_:  if your script isnt working pipe it to a log file and find out why
[11:18] <ethMiner_> my script is working when i run it
[11:18] <ethMiner_> but it never runs on startup
[11:19] <ethMiner_> i tried cron, i tried rc.local
[11:19] <ethMiner_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=properties.png you see that box there
[11:19] <Fudge> have you pastebinned it for others to read
[11:19] <ethMiner_> i put sudo /path/to/script.sh there and it doesnt work
[11:19] <ethMiner_> the script?
[11:19] <ethMiner_> i dont know where the error logs are
[11:19] <ethMiner_> script is working fine
[11:19] <Fudge> i dont think you would need sudo
[11:19] <k1l> ethMiner_: sudo is not for GUI
[11:20] <LonelyDanbo> I can't install Xubuntu 15.04 off USB. It says "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" and searching for that error says it's unique to Gigabyte motherboards which I have, but the solution to enable IOMMU doesn't work. {it was enabled already when I tried}
[11:20] <Fudge> its where ever you pipe it to
[11:20] <k1l> ethMiner_: and all the time you say its not a GUI script
[11:20] <pranav> anyone recently used facebook chat on terminal? how?
[11:20] <ethMiner_> k1l: ill give you the script so you can read
[11:20] <sjoshi> pranav: as of now its working and not sure uptill when ..:)
[11:21] <ethMiner_> http://pastebin.com/7iXutEbP this is my script that i want to run
[11:21] <pranav> sjoshi: https://www.bitlbee.org/ is blocked
[11:21] <k1l> ethMiner_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up that lists a lot of possible solutions.
[11:21] <ethMiner_> k1l: i just trued 2 of their solutions
[11:21] <ethMiner_> tried
[11:21] <LonelyDanbo> I don't know why the hell it's such a problem to install an OS on a $1K PC I bought 1.5 years ago. It took me 3 weeks to get things installed and working a year and a half ago.
[11:21] <ethMiner_> the cron one does not work and the .conf in init/ does not work either
[11:22] <Steven_> hello everyone, I'm trying to recompile the linux-image package for 15.04 (linux 3.19.0-25), but I always get a compile error due to missing include files. How does Ubuntu compile these kernels if not through their own source package?
[11:22] <pranav> sjoshi:any ideas, if the im.bitlbee.org is blocked
[11:23] <soulisson> Hello, i'd like to know how logwatch knows if an event belongs to today or yesterday? Does it rely on the timestamp in the log file or on the file date creation?
[11:23] <asd> Can somebody help me out with this problem that I'm having? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3fux1g/vlc_version_problem/
[11:28] <LonelyDanbo> I dunno. I remember having trouble writing the ISO to USB last time. Stuff that should have worked didn't.
[11:30] <fauzan> hallo jonne
[11:32] <k1l> asd: what gives you "apt-cache policy vlc" please put it into a pastebin and show the url here
[11:32] <k1l> !paste | asd
[11:32] <djjeff>  qtbase5-dev not installable on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:32] <djjeff> this bug is preventing us from installing lots of apps
[11:33] <djjeff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1435324
[11:33] <hectortrope> Hello guys any one tell me how I insta;; ubuntu on a phone
[11:33] <hectortrope> I have octa core processor
[11:33] <pranav> is there a common proxy server in ubuntu?
[11:34] <k1l> djjeff: can you show the apt-get install qtbase5-dev in a pastebin?
[11:34] <pranav> my organisation has blocked all sites where one can spend time :P
[11:34] <fidel_> pranav: squid is a common proxy software
[11:35] <k1l> hectortrope: see #ubuntu-touch and see the topic of that channel for the porting guide. or see communites like xda if someone alreaady did the porting
[11:35] <pesari> pranav: if you have access to an ssh box outside your organisation, you could use it as socks proxy
[11:40] <impalle> So is enabling the firewall really needed if you do only surf and e-mail on a ubuntu system?
[11:40] <k1l> impalle: no.
[11:40] <impalle> does the fw take alot of resources (mem, space)?
[11:40] <impalle> or cpu
[11:41] <k1l> impalle: what do you hope to get from running the fw?
[11:41] <impalle> good question. I guess to peek into the fw log and see if someone is trying to intrude
[11:42] <k1l> impalle: well, that is not going to happen. the windows firewalls do generate a false view on what a firewall is.
[11:42] <impalle> the fw allows only outbound traffic, if no fw all inbound is allowed, not?
[11:43] <k1l> impalle: if there is no service daemon running and listening on a port, you cant "hack" the port.
[11:43] <LonelyDanbo> what do I do to try and troubleshoot why I can't install Ubuntu off USB? The last error it gave, the solution to that doesn't work: enabling IOMMU in BIOS. error "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[11:44] <impalle> kil: thanks I get it now (yep Win does make you have a wrong idea on ip traffic)
[11:45] <impalle> LonelyDanbo: is the partition marked as bootable?
[11:46] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: what program did you use to create the usb? did you check the md5sum?
[11:46] <LonelyDanbo> impalle, well I'm booting off the HD, and the USB stick starts ... something, so I'm guessing both are set as bootable.
[11:47] <LonelyDanbo> k1l, I didn't check the md5sum. I used the recomended program... I forget what. mkusb or something?
[11:47] <LonelyDanbo> yes, mkusb was the correct name.
[11:47] <impalle> LonelyDanbo: as k1l said, maybe the tool you used did not succed in making the USB bootable
[11:48] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: are you on a linux already? so i would try the "dd" command to erase other programs making issues there.
[11:48] <LonelyDanbo> it started with a menu asking me if I wanted to boot Ubuntu or install it, so I'm pretty sure it booted.
[11:49] <djjeff> k1l: its actually a launchpad issue
[11:49] <djjeff> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211257553/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.obs-studio_0.11.1-197~trusty_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:49] <LonelyDanbo> k1l, I'm on Ubuntu yes. {Just trying to install a better version on another partition.} dd to erase other programs where?
[11:49] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: on that menu you should be able check the md5sum of that boot medium too.
[11:50] <impalle> Does your BIOS have a "secure boot" option? try switching it off!
[11:50] <k1l> LonelyDanbo: "sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=1M && sync " just be sure that sdX is the right X, or it will wipe other devices
[11:53] <LonelyDanbo> alright. I'll try that.
[11:53] <LonelyDanbo> thanks.
[11:53] <ethMiner_> the third box
[11:53] <ethMiner_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=properties.png
[11:53] <ethMiner_> look at it
[11:54] <ethMiner_> my script is here /home/shovel/Desktop/launchers.sh
[11:54] <ethMiner_> how do i add it to that box
[11:54] <ethMiner_> and make it execute on startup
[11:59] <LonelyDanbo> is this error in gparted maybe why I'm having trouble installing off the USB stick? "/dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should."
[12:00] <Jobbe> i fixed my problem
[12:01] <impalle> how do I get sound on my newly installed Lubuntu system? I have a HP Pavilion 15 notebook
[12:04] <Exagone313> Hello, is it possible to choose the listen IP address for dnsmasq? The configuration "listen-address" unfortunately does not work...
[12:05] <Exagone313> it seems to be a bug not corrected since years...
[12:06] <impalle> found it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[12:09] <ethMiner_> im back again
[12:09] <ethMiner_> where is the file .bash_rc
[12:10] <llutz> ethMiner_: ~/.bashrc
[12:10] <baizon> ethMiner_: in your home directore, and its called .bashrc
[12:12] <x4w3> hello everyone.
[12:12] <Ubuntu908> I think I'm at the last installation hurdle.
[12:13] <Ubuntu908> I can't actually install it though because I have too many primary partitions.
[12:13] <llutz> Ubuntu908: remove one, create an extended partition, use logical drives. or use gpt
[12:14] <Ubuntu908> I think I want to use a logical drive. I'll have to check youtube or something to find how though.
[12:14] <Ubuntu908> the problem with ubuntu is I have no idea what I'm doing.
[12:15] <Ubuntu908> the good part about ubuntu is I learn what I'm doing
[12:20] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: :) it's very easy....
[12:21] <sneer_> hello
[12:21] <Ubuntu908> I'm hoping I can do it without too many reboots. Since as of late, trying to get ubuntu up and running has been a huge pain in the butt
[12:21] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: if you can't use whole partition in the disk, try to create manually partitions...it isnt difficult.
[12:22] <Ubuntu908> I'd like to cut off about 30 gigs for just the OS and run all my programs from my other drive
[12:22] <x4w3> you can install where u want, primary or extended.
[12:22] <Ubuntu908> SSD for the OS, HDD for the rest
[12:23] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  your old data is into hdd? and sdd is new one?
[12:23] <Ubuntu908> Yes and no.
[12:23] <x4w3> :) you have installed into sdd more things...isnt it?
[12:23] <Ubuntu908> I got them at the same time, but installed all my non system files, or as many as I could onto the HDD
[12:24] <Ubuntu908> but my drivers, and I think my antivirus items are on the SSD
[12:24] <Ubuntu908> and I've lost a good chunk on a windows.old when I upgraded to windows 10 that it won't let me delete :\
[12:24] <livcd> i am getting this from vagrant sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[12:25] <livcd> i have tried to play with sudoers but did not get any result
[12:25] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: save data to a extended partition and after it, remove all windows and linux, a reinstall all again....
[12:26] <Ubuntu908> the linux seems to be not on the computer yet, it's on a thumbdrive
[12:26] <x4w3> sudo -i, sudo su....
[12:27] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  enough to create a new extended partition and move all data into hdd and sdd into it.
[12:27] <Ubuntu908> I haven't actually figured out how to make the extended partition yet.
[12:28] <Ubuntu908> I think I need to do something in the disk managment window though
[12:28] <x4w3> livcd: sudo visudo o edit /etc/sudoers to grant your user...
[12:29] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: run gparted daemon and check both hardrives are recognized, after it select hdd and try to create extended using free space or without assigment space after delete unused partition.
[12:31] <x4w3> livcd: other way is use the command in full path, like sudo /sbin/ifconfig instead of sudo ifconfig.
[12:31] <Ubuntu908> is gparted daemon in ubuntu, or is that a seperate program?
[12:32] <x4w3> let me check it
[12:35] <x4w3> no sorry, you need to install it, i check in Ubuntu 64 14.04 LTS and by default is not installed.
[12:35] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: sudo apt-get install gparted :P
[12:35] <Ubuntu908> Can I do that with the demo ubuntu?
[12:35] <x4w3> let me check if exists by default other one
[12:35] <OerHeks> it is standard on the live iso
[12:36] <Ubuntu908> because it locked me out of my HDD files before when I was in the demo
[12:36] <OerHeks> not sure why gparted is removed after installation ..
[12:36] <livcd> x4w3: i did but there has not been any effect...but hey this is more connected to vagrant
[12:37] <x4w3> livcd: paste your full command please...
[12:37] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: with live cd gparted is by default and you can use it, why you can mount your data partition?
[12:39] <Ubuntu908> I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'll try and explain the situatiuon a bit better.
[12:40] <Ubuntu908> When I try to install ubuntu from the thumbdrive normally, outside of the demo it says I can't due to partitions. and when I try to do it from in the demo version, it basically says I need to wipe everything.
[12:41] <livcd> x4w3: vagrant ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[12:41] <Ubuntu908> I actually thought about just moving all my data to the HDD, unplugging it, and installing that way, wiping my windows out in the process
[12:41] <Ubuntu908> I mean, that way by unplugging it, it can't really be knocked out.
[12:43] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: excuse i'm trying to understand, i'm spanish....
[12:44] <Ubuntu908> That's plenty fine. I can't really be upset over that.
[12:44] <Ubuntu908> Well, not reaonably anyway.
[12:44] <x4w3> livcd: add your user to sudo group first sudo usermod -a -G sudo vagrant
[12:44] <funkenstrahlen> What is the best way to make iptables rules persistent?
[12:45] <Ubuntu908> I'll try and put gparted on the thumbdrive too I suppose
[12:45] <Ubuntu908> and hopefully be able to get things working
[12:45] <Aleksa> Hello! How do I send X through SSH when my router closes almost all ports? Could I somehow forward X through my http port?
[12:46] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: try live cd, of course you will be able to move all your data to the best partition and after it reinstall windows in to the primary and then install ubuntu :P
[12:46] <x4w3> Ubuntu908: live cd mount every partition  :)
[12:46] <livcd> x4w3: i created an "admin" group and added vagrant to it
[12:47] <Ubuntu908> I don't actually have CDs to burn it onto.
[12:47] <x4w3> livcd: test first adding user to group sudo, only in UNIX you can use admin i think, i dont know
[12:47] <OerHeks> funkenstrahlen, i would use the iptables-persistent tool
[12:48] <OerHeks> !info iptables-persistent
[12:48] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  live cd will not delete any partition.
[12:48] <x4w3> Ubuntu908:  you can use Hiren's Boot too, include linux live with gparted
[12:49] <Ubuntu908> Wait, to make sure I understand the term.... is a live cd an actual disk?
[12:49] <OerHeks> ouch, do not mention Hirens here, it is highly illegal x4w3
[12:49] <OerHeks> the live iso has got gparted.
[12:49] <x4w3> ok sorry
[12:49] <livcd> x4w3: ok..but nope it's still the same :S
[12:50] <x4w3> livcd: try vagrant   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[12:50] <k1l_> Ubuntu908: the live system could be placed on a cd/dvd or a usb pendrive
[12:50] <OerHeks> x4w3, suggest UBcd ultimate boot cd next time, is freeware ;-)
[12:50] <llutz> livcd: after adding a user to a group, the user needs to re-login
[12:52] <livcd> llutz: yes i did that :-)
[12:53] <Aleksa> no answer to my question?
[12:55] <OerHeks> Aleksa, did your provider closed ports?
[12:55] <Aleksa> no
[12:55] <Aleksa> It's by default
[12:55] <Aleksa> I mean
[12:55] <Aleksa> OerHeks, I cannot do ssh to my PC, unless I open 22 port manually on my router.
[12:56] <Aleksa> I'm writing a tutorial, but I cannot figure it out :(
[12:57] <llutz> Aleksa: open the port (use portforwarding), connect to your pc using "ssh -X user@host", done
[12:57] <OerHeks> Aleksa, so you CAN open port 22 .. why do you ask for an other way trough th http port ( 80) ??
[12:58] <livcd> x4w3: no difference
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Aleksa:  this shows a couple of options for X forwarding  http://askubuntu.com/questions/35512/what-is-the-difference-between-ssh-y-trusted-x11-forwarding-and-ssh-x-u
[12:59] <Aleksa> OerHeks, in case on the other side (person using pc i consider remote) does not know how to open port 22 on router.
[12:59] <Aleksa> Maybe to set SSH to listen on 80?
[12:59] <llutz> Aleksa: why would port 80 on a router should be open?
[13:00] <llutz> -would
[13:00] <Aleksa> llutz, ok so, what port is usually opened on router? I thought it's 80 for http, classic internet surfing
[13:01] <llutz> Aleksa: none, you don't need to open port 80 to reach websites OUTSIDE
[13:01] <kgirthofer> #classicinternetsurfing
[13:01] <llutz> Aleksa: normal soho-routers shouldn't have any open ports. they allow all outbound, nothing inbound
[13:01] <x4w3> livcd: sudoers it's very easy, but try with new user --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer-using-the-command-line
[13:02] <llutz> Aleksa: if you don't want to open any ports, use a reverse-ssh-tunnel
[13:03] <x4w3> livcd: remember that all members of the group admin, are in Ubuntu by default allowed to use sudo, so the easiest way is to add the user account to the admin group.
[13:03] <x4w3> but try with new user better :)
[13:04] <Aleksa> llutz, thank you a lot! I will google it :)
[13:10] <Aleksa> llutz, one last question: According to one tutorial I am following right now, it is possible to access to PC that is behind router (NAT). It's done with 'ssh -R anyport:localhost:22 user:his_ip'
[13:10] <Aleksa> nut
[13:10] <Aleksa> *but
[13:10] <Aleksa> of course that command is supposed to be run on remote pc
[13:11] <ash__> hey, i was trying to install LAMP with tasksel and suddenly all my programs started to uninstall ... any idea why?
[13:11] <Aleksa> and on source pc, I need to type ssh localhost -p 'the_same_port'
[13:11] <llutz> Aleksa: sure, thats why it is called "reverse tunnel"
[13:11] <Aleksa> the question is: Would all this work if the "source PC" is also behind the router?
[13:12] <Aleksa> would this reverse tunnel work with both PC's being behind the router?
[13:12] <ash__> all means almost all .... browsers, ubuntu-desktop...
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Aleksa:  yes it should
[13:12] <llutz> Aleksa: the same router? then it makes no sense, the can connect direct.
[13:12] <Aleksa> llutz, not the same. Each PC has it's own router
[13:12] <gnmk> Hi
[13:13] <gnmk> what is the best way to install .deb packages from directory at boot time ?
[13:13] <llutz> Aleksa: works too, just one of the router has to allow incoming ssh-connections (port forwarding)
[13:13] <jpds> gnmk: Why
[13:13] <jpds> gnmk: Why would you want to do that?
[13:13] <wtm_iphone> Any one knows how to play videos with framebuffer? Mplayer cannot open the framebuffer(with or without sudo, both cannot)
[13:13] <Aleksa> llutz, what if neither router allows it?
[13:13] <llutz> Aleksa: you're lost
[13:14] <Aleksa> reverse tunneling works on remote pc whose ports on router are closed
[13:14] <gnmk> jpds: because there are some requirement which will install basic ubutu rootfs and need to add some packages later .
[13:14] <wtm_iphone> But my framebuffer device works fine, I can use fbterm on it
[13:14] <Aleksa> so, at least one port must be opened?
[13:14] <llutz> Aleksa: yes,
[13:14] <Aleksa> :(
[13:14] <gnmk> jpds: its basically container .
[13:14] <Aleksa> is there some kind of double reverse tunneling?
[13:15] <jpds> gnmk: You're going to want to look at cloud-init and see how it does stuff
[13:15] <llutz> Aleksa: i doubt because one side always has to be able to receive inbound connections
[13:16] <gnmk> jpds: ok let me see.
[13:17] <wtm_iphone> Can any one help me?
[13:20] <wtm_iphone> D:
[13:21] <gnmk> jpds: ok I can use could-init for containers but if physical HW, what will be the best approach rc.local or cron or something else .
[13:21] <motz> usb_modeswitch says: "Error: message endpoint not given or found. Abort". what does it mean?
[13:25] <LonelyDanbo> will this error get in the way of using the Ubuntu installer on the USB stick, and require fixing, or do I ignore it? "/dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should."
[13:26] <gnmk> jpds: any tested methods ?
[13:29] <Paddy_NI> Is there any way I can make the file type case insensitive for this particular operation.  "find /media/patrick/SAMSUNG/Recovered_Data/ -name \*.mp3 -exec mv {} /media/patrick/SAMSUNG/Recovered_Files/Audio/ \;"
[13:30] <LonelyDanbo> god, I don't know what I'm doing with this USB stick. did I fix it? Do I need to do more?
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> LonelyDanbo, Was this a result of dd?
[13:31] <LonelyDanbo> Paddy_NI, uh... right now I'm trying to re-write the ISO to it. just a sec.
[13:34] <LonelyDanbo> oh god. what does "dd" do by itself? it's just hanging.
[13:34] <badbodh> patience soldier. dd extracts the iso to usb
[13:34] <badbodh> takes time
[13:35] <badbodh> go shoot some kittens, come back after 10-15 minutes
[13:35] <LonelyDanbo> what iso? I didn't tell it to use an iso. I just typed "dd" by itself.
[13:35] <badbodh> lol
[13:35] <badbodh> just 'dd' ? no source/target ?
[13:35] <LonelyDanbo> yeah.
[13:35] <badbodh> ctrl-c it
[13:36] <LonelyDanbo> the previous command where someone told me to do "sudo dd if=xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync" seems to have worked.
[13:37] <badbodh> usually dd is used for creating live-usb, dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/usb
[13:37] <dxl> ?
[13:37] <badbodh> sounds legit
[13:37] <impalle> sometimes I see "&sync" used - what's it for?
[13:37] <wtm_iphone> <How to use dd> *Don't run the follow commands!!!!!* sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda      # xD
[13:37] <ubuntu824> Alright, so apparently I can use gparted from in ubuntu demo. Now I just need to resize my partitions.
[13:38] <k1l_> impalle: to clean the cache and make sure all data is written on the usb device
[13:38] <impalle> k1l_: ah thx
[13:38] <LonelyDanbo> well... I guess I'll reboot and try this. see if it's any different or works at all. I wish I had two computers so I wouldn't have to spend time rebooting when things don't work.
[13:39] <badbodh> run 'man dd' to see what dd can do
[13:39] <helo> anyone know why gvfs-udisks-volume-monitor process would be using 500MB+ of resident memory?
[13:39] <helo> it's using more than any other process 0_o
[13:40] <anthonym> Nice, wine works great now.
[13:41] <helo> if i -HUP it, will it reload without breaking anything?
[13:45] <ubuntu824> Wait... to make a new partition, why is the size limited so much?
[13:46] <ubuntu824> It only lets me make a new partition at 1 MiB
[13:49] <k1l_> ubuntu824: where?
[13:50] <ubuntu824> In Gparted
[13:50] <k1l_> can you show a screenshot on imgur and show the link here?
[13:50] <ubuntu824> Yeah
[13:51] <ubuntu824> I'm sure it's something stupid that I'm missing, since I'm still trying to install the OS
[13:52] <ubuntu824> http://imgur.com/PeYazKn
[13:52] <shredding> I have a deployment script (namely a capistrano app) that executes from the command line. It has a dedicated user named deployer. Now I want to trigger deployment via a webhook, but i fail to switch from nginx www-data user to the deployer user.
[13:52] <shredding> Does anyone know how to make that happen?
[13:53] <k1l_> ubuntu824: so what do you want to do now?
[13:53] <jpds> shredding: Have nginx write to a file and than have a deployer crontab that checks for the existance of that file
[13:53] <k1l_> ubuntu824: the disk is in usage from sda1, sda2 and sda3. so there is only 1MB of free space at the end.
[13:53] <ubuntu824> Basically, I want to use the unused 18.8 gigs of space I have to make room to install ubuntu. But because it's currently in use, I think from windows, I can't
[13:54] <shredding> jpds: That's a good idea.
[13:55] <k1l_> ubuntu824: i suggest to resize the windows partitions from inside windows. in the disk settings somewhere in the systemsettings there is a program to resize (shrink) that partitions.
[13:55] <ubuntu824> I think I can do that. I guess I should shrink it by about 18 gigs or so?
[13:56] <k1l_> ubuntu824: but you could do it from gparted too. you first need to right click on the sda2 and check "unmount". then rightclick on the sda2 again and resize it (shrink it). then yu need to move sda3 to the left side so all unallocated space is at the end. then you can create the sda4 ext4 partition.
[13:57] <ubuntu824> it can't unmount sda2
[13:59] <ZeBaws> Hello!
[14:17] <LonelyDanbo> well the USB installer works, but now it's giving me a warning about installing in UEFI mode instead, and I need to research whether or not this will modify my boot loader to no longer allow me to boot this installation that's probably created in Legacy mode.
[14:19] <LonelyDanbo> why is every problem I run into causing me excruciating anxiety?
[14:19] <SAKABA> just deal with it
[14:20] <LonelyDanbo> I think I should take a break. I feel like I'm about to pass out.
[14:21] <SAKABA> i love ubuntu so much OMG!
[14:22] <jost_> I have a machine that cannot be booted by a live CD or stick. However, I need  to resize the partition that is mounted as /. Can I do that, maybe by triggering the resize on the next reboot or something?
[14:23] <jost_> Risky operations are not a problem, since the machine is a VM and I have a backup of it
[14:23] <teward> jost_: you can boot a LiveCD ISO on the VM... maybe the gparted live disk based on Debian
[14:24] <g2000> jost_: All VM's should support isos...
[14:24] <teward> jost_: or do you not actually control the VM?
[14:24] <jost_> teward: I do not have a screen attached to the hypervisor, it is a remote machine
[14:24] <jost_> I have a root shell on the hypervisor though
[14:24] <jost_> (virtualbox)
[14:27] <g2000> jost_: What about "VBoxManage controlvm <VM> dvdattach <FILE>"?
[14:27] <ubuntu194> I got the partition room, but I still am capped out on the number of primary partitions. what's the difference between a logical and an extended partition?
[14:27] <jost_> g2000: that would work, but I'd need a way to log into the live system
[14:28] <g2000> jost_: I see, but afaik virtualbox supports RDP connections to the VM.
[14:29] <rk> hey all
[14:29] <rk> im noob on ubuntu
[14:30] <rk> anyone can help me for first thing using ubuntu?
[14:30] <mgolisch> jost_: vbox has vrdp
[14:30] <rosesarered> ..
[14:31] <mgolisch> if you have the extensionpack installed atleast
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !manual | rk
[14:31] <mgolisch> jost_: when enabled you can rdp into the guest console
[14:32] <mgolisch> jost_: also without the extensionpack it has vnc atleast i belive
[14:38] <Qantourisc> Package for "man" ?
[14:42] <g2000> Qantourisc: Maybe you are searching for "man-db".
[14:42] <Qantourisc> g2000: yes sorry found already, i just got confused by the www-browser but it was suggested, not installing
[14:43] <g2000> Qantourisc: kk
[14:46] <clocky> HI there can you pls tell me how to check if port 4444 open in my machine or not  using the terminal ??
[14:47] <Qantourisc> clocky: i assume listening ? netstat -ln | grep 444
[14:47] <Qantourisc> +4
[14:48] <clocky> Qantourisc : i got no output indicating the status  ?
[14:48] <Qantourisc> the not listing :)
[14:49] <Qantourisc> clocky: without the grep to see all (for an example)
[14:50] <OerHeks> no output = not an open port
[14:50] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[14:50] <Qantourisc> speaking of witch: why does /etc/init.d/ssh restart do nothing ?
[14:51] <clocky> Qantourisc : you mean " netstat -ln "
[14:51] <OerHeks> try: sudo service sshd restart
[14:51] <Qantourisc> clocky: yep
[14:51] <Qantourisc> OerHeks: I am root
[14:52] <Qantourisc> OerHeks: service sshd works yes
[14:52] <Qantourisc> but imo it should mention its not working anymore
[15:05] <Qantourisc> Minium recommended required for ubunut 5GB
[15:05] <Qantourisc> actually used ?
[15:05] <Qantourisc> 538MB....
[15:05] <Qantourisc> ok
[15:11] <dodo> ciao
[15:11] <Leidenfrost> Hello guys, I'm looking for osx way of running apps in my desktop. Is there a way to run apps "windowless mode"? Even if it is an ugly hack?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Leidenfrost  i think xmonad WM is what you want
[15:14] <dodo> ciao
[15:15] <g2000> dodo: Hello!
[15:15] <dodo> hello
[15:15] <Leidenfrost> MonkeyDust: Thanks, but don't teng to get along with tiling wms
[15:15] <Lurchy> morning everyone!
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> Lurchy  other timezone
[15:17] <cfhowlett> Lurchy, "greetings" will do.  We are global after all.
[15:17] <Lurchy> forgive my noob question but I am wondering best way to move a directory to my var/www/ when I dont have root accessin this ubuntu-desktop I am using..I suspect I created this non-root user account for day-to-day use
[15:18] <Lurchy> should I move using command line?
[15:18] <Lurchy> sudo?
[15:18] <Lurchy> cant copy dir using gui
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> Lurchy  yes, sudo mv
[15:19] <Lurchy> ok...
[15:19] <squeakytoy> Hey I have a newbie question. I have moved from files from Windows to Linux via Dropbox, but I am getting "permission denied". What chmod command is preferred to recursively just give me permission on all files?
[15:19] <OerHeks> Lurchy, normally we advise to make that user part of the www-data group, to move without sudo
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> squeakytoy  try chown your-user:your-user
[15:20] <squeakytoy> isnt there a 777 that just puts all permissions?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> squeakytoy  777 is dangerous, use 755
[15:21] <Lurchy> OerHeks....give my non-root user permissions to edit files in /var/www/ via the GUI
[15:21] <Lurchy> ?
[15:21] <drkjstr> Also, there is a -R switch to do it recursively, if there are child folder and contents
[15:22] <OerHeks> Lurchy, yes, but you need sudo to do that >> http://superuser.com/questions/646062/granting-write-permissions-to-www-data-group
[15:22] <squeakytoy> thanks
[15:22] <Lurchy> ok
[15:22] <Lurchy> obviously
[15:29] <Lurchy> yay..cmd line stuff is so easy if you know what they do!
[15:29] <Lurchy> trick is knowing the command...lol
[15:29] <Lurchy> ok...next trick up my sleeve...getting my database working
[15:30] <Lurchy> ill be back
[15:30] <OerHeks> Lurchy, have fun
[15:42] <kadiro> hello all
[15:45] <mete_> guys
[15:45] <mete_> I need help
[15:46] <mete_> about installing ubuntu touch#
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !touch | mete_
[15:48] <counterglitch> hey everyone!
[15:49] <counterglitch> I'm having an issue with vsftpd on trusty, i'm using the default config and when I try to log-in from a windows client I get "the session was terminated", similar error from a Mint 17 client
[15:55] <ioria> counterglitch, con you login from your trusty box ?
[16:01] <Nectar> Is 25gb a fair amount for a ubuntu partition? thanks.
[16:01] <OerHeks> Nectar, sure.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> Nectar, quite generous actually
[16:01] <DrRoach> Nectar: Yeah
[16:02] <Nectar> i might go for 20 though.
[16:02] <mcphail> Nectar: depends on what you want to do with it
[16:02] <Nectar> mcphail: nothing heavy
[16:02] <baizon> Nectar: i have 15GB for / and 25 for /home
[16:03] <Nectar> baizon: not exactly sure how to do that. im new.
[16:04] <mcphail> Nectar: don't split / and /home unless you need to
[16:04] <Nectar> i only have 1 harddrive, and aad
[16:04] <Nectar> ssd*
[16:05] <Nectar> If i uninstall will anything be left behind, like the bootloader?
[16:06] <Amoz> Nectar, if you remove the partitions the MBR will still be there
[16:06] <Nectar> Amoz: easy to remove?
[16:06] <Amoz> if you have a Windows installation you'll have to manually recover the bootloader in MBR
[16:07] <Amoz> Nectar, usually you don't "uninstall" an OS
[16:07] <Nectar> Amoz: well, format the space.
[16:07] <kadiro> I have a question but i'm sure it is out of this channel ( about other distribution )
[16:07] <sapath> I cann't install synaptic under ubuntu mate 14.04
[16:07] <Amoz> kadiro, what dist?
[16:08] <Amoz> sapath, describe "can't"
[16:08] <OerHeks> kadiro, then don't ask here :-)
[16:08] <kadiro> Amoz: thk's for replay it is mint
[16:08] <kadiro> thk's OerHeks
[16:08] <Amoz> kadiro, if it's more related to Mint then #mint
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !mint | kdavyd
[16:08] <cfhowlett> kadiro, this ^^
[16:08] <sapath> I am getting errors like this:
[16:08] <sapath> sapath@sapath-SVE11115EHB:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:08] <sapath> Reading package lists... Done
[16:08] <sapath> Building dependency tree
[16:08] <sapath> Reading state information... Done
[16:08] <sapath> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[16:09] <Lurchy> Nectar> Are you trying to create a dual doot system from a single drive or something like that?  what is your goal?
[16:09] <khax> lol
[16:09] <kadiro> yes Amoz i know but still i ask in #mint channel in about more then 7 days without any answer
[16:09] <Amoz> kadiro, they have forums as well
[16:09] <OerHeks> kadiro, didn't we have been here before, you banned, complaining, and not wanted to return to their irc channel ?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> kadiro, then you're using the wrong distro.
[16:09] <Amoz> sapath, use pastebin
[16:09] <kadiro> cfhowlett: surely
[16:09] <Nectar> Lurchy: a duel boot on the same ssd. Windows already installed, about to install ubuntu.
[16:10] <kadiro> yes OerHeks right
[16:10] <Amoz> Nectar, that will overwrite the windows bootloader
[16:10] <OerHeks> !paste | sapath
[16:10] <kadiro> thk's guys anyway
[16:10] <Amoz> Nectar, so if you remove the Ubuntu partitions in the future, you'll have to manually recover the Windows bootloader to get Windows to boot succesfully.
[16:10] <Amoz> kadiro, PM me
[16:11] <sapath> Amoz, ubottu Yeah, okay sure,
[16:11] <sapath> http://pastebin.com/a5KSWY4c
[16:11] <kadiro> thank you Amoz
[16:11] <Amoz> sapath, what dist ? have you ran apt-get update without errors ?
[16:11] <Nectar> amoz: sounds tricky.
[16:12] <sapath> i am on ubuntu mate 14.04
[16:12] <OerHeks> sapath, update & upgrade before installing something, might help
[16:12] <Lurchy> Nectar...I would recommen you boot from diff drives...makes life real easy....otherwise you gotta use a MBR manager of some kind...
[16:12] <Amoz> Nectar, well, usually you only boot the Windows DVD and try to "recover boot"
[16:13] <Lurchy> dont you got an old 100 gb platter HD laying around?  or a usb drive?
[16:13] <sapath> OerHeks, I already tried apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, and apt-get upgrade
[16:13] <sapath> Nothing seems to fix my problem
[16:13] <ioria> sapath, apt-cache policy synaptic ?
[16:13] <Lurchy> brb
[16:14] <Nectar> Lurchy: only got one drive. :(
[16:15] <sapath> Amoz, this the result of apt-get update http://pastebin.com/CZr9iK0n
[16:15] <OerHeks> sapath, any PPA's installed ?
[16:16] <sapath> ioria, tis is what I am getting. http://pastebin.com/GZ3D2BUb
[16:16] <sapath> OerHerks, None so far.
[16:16] <sapath> Oerheks, None.
[16:17] <sapath> Oerherks, Oh wait. There's ubuntu mate's ppa and libre office ppa.
[16:17] <ioria> sapath, you are full of ppa
[16:17] <sapath> ioria, what's that?
[16:17] <mindwarrior> what's what
[16:18] <OerHeks> sapath, oke, then maybe your mirror is not up2date, change it to main please and try again
[16:18] <sapath> Oerheks, I am using the main server.
[16:19] <Merdrod> hi
[16:19] <Merdrod> I have actually some issue connecting my Nokia Lumia 620 with my ubuntu
[16:20] <sapath> Merdrod, what issues. I too used that phone under ubuntu.
[16:20] <Merdrod> sapath, First when I connected it, I had an error message like "Can't handle files"
[16:20] <Merdrod> Now, it's "L'obtention de la liste des dossiers a échoué: -1: Unspecified error"
[16:21] <OerHeks> sapath, you have a pgp key badsig too. that could be because the mirror is not synced. or dirty lists. > sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[16:21] <sapath> Merdrod, I scratched my head too much over it, but could never get it connected.
[16:21] <sapath> From what I know windows phone can't be connected under ubuntu.
[16:21] <JayBau> Merdrod: I had the same error on my Samsung phone, but I can actually see the contents of my phone when launching Nautilus
[16:22] <Merdrod> sapath, Yeah it was I think too. I just came her with hope ;'(
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sapath: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5 3E5C1192
[16:23] <sapath> could you please write that message again.
[16:23] <sapath> My screen just automatically cleared.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in the OS before physically unplugging it?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> sapath: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5 3E5C1192
[16:24] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip, No idea at all.
[16:24] <Merdrod> "Désolé, impossible d'afficher tout le contenu de « RM-835|NOKIA Lumia 610 » : L'obtention de la liste des dossiers a échoué: -1: Unspecified error"
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: its a concious thing
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: has it worked in ANY system before, in any OS?
[16:25] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip : Yeah on windows, with their shitty app.
[16:25] <Merdrod> "Zune"
[16:25] <Merdrod> If i remember
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: and when you wanted to disconnect it, do you use the safe remove feature in the system tray before unplugging it?
[16:25] <sapath> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/eRNhk5pY
[16:25] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip : It was one year ago, I don't really remember. But I guess that I didn't.
[16:26] <sapath> This is wha I'm getting.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: wonder why its the first thing I ask....
[16:26] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip, It can really lock the files ?
[16:26] <Merdrod> Because I'm sure I can have access with window
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: plug the device into a WIndows system and let the file system mount or whatever it does. Then use the icon in the system try to safely remove the device. When you are told, unplug it physically and I bet its fine
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: why do you think Microsoft (and Ubunrtu) put that feature in the OS!!?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: the final unmount means the files and caches are sync'd otherwise the filesystem is marked as dirty
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: but few use it and get issues, so its the first thing I ask and the answer is nearly always "no I don't use safe remove"
[16:29] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip, Trying
[16:29] <sapath> ActionParsnip, This is what I'm getting after running apt-get update http://pastebin.com/U7cLDDh7
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> sapath: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sapath: my own script (based on commands from the official Ubuntu pages) to untangle dpkg
[16:33] <sapath> ActionParsnip, What is supposed to happen after this?
[16:41] <Merdrod> re
[16:41] <Merdrod> Don't rmember the pseudo of the two people who tried to help me
[16:41] <sapath> Haha. Merdrod, that's me and an other guy who was also helping me.
[16:42] <sapath> Merdrod, did that solve your issue.
[16:42] <squinty> Merdrod, actionparsnip
[16:42] <BotchlaB> Merdrod, from logs, seems to be Merdrod and actionparsnip.
[16:42] <sapath> Could someone help me also.
[16:42] <Merdrod> sapath : No. I boot on windows, don't want to lose more time
[16:43] <Merdrod> sapath: But I just wanna thank you
[16:44] <sapath> Merdrod, NP. This is what opensource community is all about.
[16:44] <squinty> sapath,  did you run that script that Actionparsnip said to download?
[16:45] <OerHeks> sapath, if that script from Actionparsnip didn; t work, remove corrupted lists and try again:  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[16:45] <squinty> sapath,  it clears out the sources list cache and the attempts another update and upgrade. if it worked then you shouldn't see any errors
[16:45] <OerHeks> if the keys were bad, you would have a huge issue.
[16:45] <sapath> squinty, I did. It just takes me into an infinite loop of apt-get update an and apt-get upgrade
[16:46] <squinty> sapath, try OerHeks script to see if it cleared up the sources first
[16:47] <OerHeks> this command is part of that script too, so i wonder ..
[16:47] <sapath> OerHeks, squinty , i think this might working. On way.
[16:47] <OerHeks> that script from Actionparsnipperforms several updates and install -f commands, so that is oke
[16:48] <squinty> sapath,  that will update your sources listings.  if no errors then try upgrade  sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:48] <sapath> OerHeks, Doesn't work.
[16:49] <scornflakes> is there any way to make a mount in /etc/fstab not "required"? like if it can't do it, just quit and not bother waiting for it?
[16:49] <sapath> OerHeks, http://pastebin.com/x1kB45XG
[16:49] <squinty> sapath,  probably should paste the output from update to pastebin again then so others can see what is going wrong.  that last post had some spurious launchpad and ppa's i believe
[16:49] <sapath> squinty, sapath,  probably should paste the output from update to pastebin again then so others can see what is going wrong.  that last post had some spurious launchpad and ppa's i believe
[16:50] <sapath> squinty, sorry. http://pastebin.com/x1kB45XG
[16:50] <sapath> My keyboard is very crammed from what I usually use.
[16:52] <OerHeks> sapath, on what linux version is this ?
[16:52] <sapath> I'm on ubuntu mate 14.04
[16:52] <sapath> OerHeks, Linux sapath-SVE11115EHB 3.16.0-33-generic #44~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 13 10:33:29 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:54] <OerHeks> sapath, can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list and cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:56] <sapath> Oerherks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12008137/
[16:57] <sapath> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12008144/
[16:59] <OerHeks> likely an PPA issue.
[17:00] <OerHeks> i asked earlier about ppa's, bu didn't get the answer after your denial.
[17:00] <squinty> sapath,  you also need to pastebin  the output of  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[17:00] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge to remove them and return to the original packages, else seek help by the ppa maintainer
[17:01] <sapath> OerHeks, I'm sorry. I have not installed any ppa's but all the ppa's of ubuntu mate by defualt
[17:01] <OerHeks> that is the 2nd paste squinty
[17:01] <OerHeks> no, mate-dev is not default.
[17:01] <squinty> oh sorry  must have missed it
[17:02] <OerHeks> libreoffice, accessibilty, mate hwe2 ..
[17:03] <andschwa> besides running init or calling login, how can I most minimally populate /run/utmp?
[17:05] <squinty> sapath,   if you have Synaptics package manager, you can also use that to disable/remove ppa's
[17:05] <Amoz> sapath, one of your sourcelists are malformed
[17:05] <sapath> squinty, the whole point is installing synaptic
[17:05] <sapath> Guys, what could be a simple solution to my problem.
[17:05] <squinty> sapath,   hah  ok   so much for that idea then  lol
[17:06] <squinty> use ppa purge
[17:06] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[17:06] <sapath> I'm on ubuntu mate, so I'm not sure which ppa i should be removing.
[17:06] <OerHeks> or bug the mate-dev team :-P
[17:07] <Amoz> sapath, do you know how to edit files etc ?
[17:07] <sapath> Amoz, yeah pretty much.
[17:07] <sapath> Haha. Now, that's my only option. Oerherks
[17:07] <Amoz> sapath, one of the files in /etc/sources.list.d/ areborked
[17:07] <Amoz> are borked*
[17:07] <OerHeks> Amoz, we tried several things, this is server side, not client side
[17:07] <wileee> Amoz, They are getting top help, let them do the work.
[17:08] <OerHeks> mate-dev ppa, those can easily bork
[17:08] <Amoz> OerHeks, sorry, I misinterpreted the errors as sourcelist parse errors.
[17:09] <OerHeks> Amoz, i was thinking that too :-( and would be an easy fix with normal repos
[17:11] <OerHeks> nobody files a bug there, how would they know ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev
[17:12] <killer> hey im getting an error while cracking wifi paswords using reaver
[17:12] <sapath> OerHeks, I'm new to Launchpad Bug filing. Could you please do that?
[17:13] <rosesarered> hello
[17:13] <rosesarered> anyone can help me how to install itunes on ubuntu?
[17:13] <rosesarered> im noob on ubuntu
[17:14] <OerHeks> killer, hacking & cracking is offtopic here.
[17:14] <xangua> rosesarered: you're not getting iTunes, at least not in Linux
[17:14] <OerHeks> rosesarered, itunes in wine is no go.
[17:18] <JayBau> were you able to run MPC on wine?
[17:19] <rosesarered> xangua + oerheks = thx for info
[17:19] <rosesarered> can install itunes via wine btw?
[17:19] <xangua> 12:14 <OerHeks> rosesarered, itunes in wine is no go.
[17:20] <rosesarered> ohh..
[17:20] <xangua> Get a Windows install or ask Apple to support Linux
[17:20] <OerHeks> But if you find a way, please let us know !
[17:20] <rosesarered> okay,
[17:20] <rosesarered> im new in ubuntu
[17:21] <tracked> Itunes works with linux
[17:22] <tracked> Stop giving wrong info
[17:22] <OerHeks> tracked, prove it please?
[17:22] <rosesarered> tracked, how to install it? can help me dude?
[17:23] <tracked> Give me a few minutes im a little busy i just wanted to get that out there
[17:23] <JayBau> rosesarered: http://askubuntu.com/questions/414737/how-do-i-install-itunes-on-ubuntu
[17:23] <Nectar> I've been doing some research. If I install a second ssd will this take away the problem of the bllotloader being left behind if i format the ubuntu partition?
[17:24] <JayBau> rosesarered: http://askubuntu.com/questions/496733/does-itunes-work-well-on-ubuntu
[17:25] <wileee> Nectar, what your worried about is in the mbr, not an issue unless you use it as first read on powering on.
[17:25] <xangua> JayBau: you are aware that's iTunes 7 right?
[17:25] <wileee> Nectar, cleaning the mbr is not a good idea by the way.
[17:25] <rosesarered> jaybau, thx for info.. i will try it
[17:26] <wileee> Nectar, If this is uefi this boot is in a partition I believe.
[17:27] <wileee> err das boot heh
[17:27] <tracked> So itunes on ubuntu can be had with playonlinux or through wine. If you try to get it to work with wine it may be a pain.
[17:27] <xangua> tracked: 12:25 <xangua> JayBau: you are aware that's iTunes 7 right?
[17:27] <JayBau> xangua: nothing is "sure" to work for apps made for foreign OS, but wine can help for MS apps, although not at all time :)
[17:28] <tracked> Hmm give me a sec
[17:28] <Nectar> wileee, I dont understand
[17:28] <ObrienDave> install Win in a VM. then go for iTunes
[17:28] <squinty> wileee,  that's for window nein   :P
[17:29] <OerHeks> tracked, doubtfull, all those examples are older versions of itunes.
[17:30] <OerHeks> this was a way because of the xp-mode ..now itunes is growing up
[17:31]  * squinty read today that itunes is now illegal under new British laws.  please do not comment in this channel regarding this issue
[17:31] <tracked> What?
[17:31] <tgm4883> squinty: no it's not
[17:31] <squinty> see torrentfreak site
[17:32] <tgm4883> squinty: reputable source ;)
[17:32] <JayBau> squinty: look like they haven't found that they are illegal too
[17:32] <tracked> Wow
[17:32] <tracked> Under uk copyright law hahaha
[17:33] <Pici> !ot
[17:34] <marco_> how do i find what event has woken up my laptop from hibernation?
[17:34] <rosesarered> hmm..
[17:34] <Kion> marco_: check your log files
[17:34] <Kion> marco_: auth.log
[17:35] <Kion> marco_: or sys.log
[17:35] <ChurroLoco> Anybody know of any good IRC channels for linux game developers to talk shop?
[17:35] <auronandace> !alis | ChurroLoco
[17:35] <squinty> !alis
[17:35] <Nectar> If I install a new ssd, so if i wanted to remove ubuntu would i be left with the bootloader issue. or is non of this necessary?
[17:36] <ChurroLoco> Thanks
[17:36] <Amoz> Nectar, if you have a separate disk to use, that would solve the issue
[17:37] <Amoz> Nectar, just be very sure to *not* install the bootloader on the windows disk and ubuntu on the other disk
[17:37] <Nectar> Amoz> Is that all done in the gui Installation setup?
[17:37] <Amoz> Nectar, can you plug out the windows-disk during install?
[17:37] <auronandace> Nectar: you can choose where to install the bootloader in the gui setup
[17:38] <Nectar> Amoz: no
[17:38] <Nectar> btw, I dont have a seperate ssd, yey.
[17:38] <Nectar> yet.*
[17:38] <Amoz> Nectar, just make sure you detect which disk is sda and which one is sdb, and choose to install bootloader on the correct one
[17:39] <Amoz> Nectar, this is all under the assumption you have to disks ^
[17:39] <Amoz> two*
[17:39] <Nectar> I have one, but i will upgrade to two if it makes it easier.
[17:40] <Amoz> Nectar, if you have *one* disk, dualboot windows, and want to remove Ubuntu, this is what you'll have to do: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/
[17:46] <b00b00> hello
[17:47] <b00b00> is there a way to know what is using specific thread in linux? i have thread with 100% cpu and want to know what is using it, thanks
[17:47] <marco_> my laptop wakes up from hibernation for no reason. Im on ubuntu 14.04 with asus x455L
[17:48] <adlid> hm
[17:48] <Nectar> So, if i am installing on a single ssd, by default would the bootloader install in the right place?
[17:48] <JayBau> b00b00: open a terminal $# top
[17:50] <b00b00> JayBau: top -H -p $(pgrep -d',' p_name) not so helpful, asked if i know what using it, not how to see
[17:50] <b00b00> like strace i mean
[17:51] <oberststen> Hello, I have this command to split a file into multiple files: awk 'NR%250==1{x="users-"++i;}{print > x}' users.txt but the problme is that I get this: awk: users-18 makes too many open files, how can I fix it?
[17:52] <DammitJim> how bad is it to set up a server with a cron job to run apt-get autoremove every week
[17:52] <JayBau> Nectar: make sure to partition your disk before doing that, I also found that Win7 32-bit can't be installed with 64 bit ubuntu 14.04. (atleast in my experience)
[17:52] <DammitJim> I just logged on to a couple of servers that have automatic critical update installs and the boot folder is full
[17:53] <Koyaanis> im installing ubuntu now
[17:53] <Koyaanis> you happy?
[17:53] <adlid> yup
[17:53] <Nectar> JayBau: as far as i remember partitions can be made in the ubuntu setup. is this correct?
[17:54] <aditya> yes
[17:54] <adlid> yes
[17:54] <Nectar> is that a yes to me?
[17:54] <shamurai> DammitJim, this should get you on the right track. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[17:54] <aditya> yes for u
[17:54] <Nectar> ok. thats.
[17:54] <auronandace> DammitJim: maybe it would be better to have a script that runs after updates that checks how many kernels are installed and removes the oldest ones leaving x amount installed at any given time
[17:55] <JayBau> Nectar: yes, in my case, I installed Win7 first, then cleared up disk for what I need for Ubuntu
[17:55] <auronandace> DammitJim: i know fedora usually limits it to 3 most recent
[17:55] <DammitJim> thanks auronandace
[17:55] <DammitJim> shamurai, does your link take care of that?
[17:55] <Nectar> JayBau: Im doing the same.
[17:56] <shamurai> Yes there is a section to configure autoremove after updates
[17:56] <DammitJim> I don't see anything on it about removing older kernels
[17:56] <DammitJim> shamurai, do you mean AutocleanInterval?
[17:57] <shamurai> DammitJim, if you look at the file they referrence there are comments for configuring autoremove
[17:57] <shamurai> DammitJim, I have all my servers configured this way. Very easy maintenance.
[17:58] <DammitJim> ok, so Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";
[17:58] <DammitJim> is that what you are talking about?
[17:58] <shamurai> Yes, there should also be a section to do it on a schedule if you want.
[18:01] <DammitJim> shamurai, what do you mean by schedule?
[18:02] <DammitJim> I thought enabling this would take care of it on an automatic schedule basis
[18:02] <shamurai> It does but you can (if you want) say to do it at a specific time as well. Its not required though.
[18:04] <DammitJim> man, what a weird thing
[18:04] <DammitJim> I guess I'm going to have to salt it
[18:04] <shamurai> Salt it?
[18:05] <josharenson> PPA question. I'm getting this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12008529/ and I've read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors but I don't understand how to increase the version number.
[18:05] <NGC3982> I have installed an older hard drive with ubuntu system files on it, on a new system as an external drive. I wish to copy my old Apache configuration to the new system. Can i simply copy the sites-default (and so forth) after installing Apache?
[18:07] <DammitJim> shamurai, I need to do this in a couple dozen servers
[18:07] <DammitJim> so, I'll have to use salt for configuration management
[18:08] <shamurai> Ah, definitely.
[18:08] <Ubntu909> help
[18:09] <Ubntu909> I installed lm-sensors and ran sudo sensors-detect and answered Yes to all the questions and it detects my CPU temperature wrong i believe.
[18:09] <DammitJim> shamurai, do I need to restart something when I edit the file or is that just called by cron?
[18:09] <Ubntu909> My laptop feels as hot as it does when the cpu gets to 70C but the sensors is saying its only 57C
[18:11] <Ubntu909> and a few minutes ago something scary happened.. lol well it scared me..
[18:11] <Ubntu909> I had firefox, youtube, terminal, and software center open, and all of a sudden it started to lag hugely
[18:12] <Ubntu909> I couldn't close stuff i had to force shutdown :(
[18:12] <shamurai> DammitJim, its not required but it couldn't hut ;). If you have to schedule maintenance windows then I would say your safe to not.
[18:12] <shamurai> *hurt
[18:12] <xangua> Ubntu909: were you using flash in the videos?
[18:13] <Ubntu909> No i was using youtube.com/html5
[18:13] <DammitJim> shamurai, no, I just mean... after I edit the file, what else do I need to do to activate it
[18:15] <mrbrdo> I have a weird “issue” (I’m using zsh btw) - when I type cd proxy (or cd pro and then tab, it will autocomplete into proxy), it puts me into “~bin” and pwd says /bin, I can do this no matter in which folder I am.. kinda worried that it’s a virus so trying to confirm. it doesn’t happen on my local machine
[18:16] <shamurai> Thats all you have to do. The unattended-upgrades package will simply start reading the new config.
[18:16] <Ubntu909> xangua wat caused the lag
[18:17] <Ubntu909> or freeze up
[18:19] <kadiro> i'm back
[18:20] <josharenson> figured it out, dch -i
[18:22] <Ubntu909> Anybody
[18:25] <shamurai> Ubntu909, what graphics card do you have?
[18:27] <kadiro> Ubntu909: i'm sorry i have problem about may be the same like you but me i have a black video with sound
[18:32] <Koyaanis1> ok guys this isnt cool
[18:32] <Koyaanis1> i tried installing ubuntu on my raid 0... i just selected the drive, then it gave me some bootloader fatal error, and asked me to install it somewhere else.. i choose the STRIPE again, then i rebooted and nothing happens
[18:33] <Koyaanis1> what do
[18:33] <stevessss> so.. any version of ubuntu defaults to awesome or blackbox or wmaker or somethign light, and has default applications like emacs-athena and gvim+athena and plain x11 apps?
[18:33] <stevessss> and maybe default browser thats cmd-line based with webkit.. like uzbl.. somethign that gives pure unix experience
[18:34] <stevessss> instead of kde/gnome windows-like experience
[18:34] <shamurai> Koyaanis1, whats type of raid controller are you using?
[18:34] <Koyaanis1> i dont know
[18:34] <shamurai> Is it onboard or and addon card?
[18:34] <OerHeks> stevessss, nope, no such iso, start with the mini iso as base
[18:34] <OerHeks> !mini
[18:34] <Koyaanis1> i only connected my 2 SSDs to the SATA 3 ports..
[18:34] <Koyaanis1> oh yeah
[18:35] <Koyaanis1> some intel shit
[18:35] <shamurai> Ok so its onboard what model motherboard do you have?
[18:35] <Koyaanis1> p8z68-v
[18:35] <shamurai> Or even manufature?
[18:35] <Koyaanis1> asus
[18:36] <shamurai> Honestly I wouldn't use the onboard marvel controller. It doesn't support trim for your ssd.
[18:37] <OerHeks> Koyaanis1, why raid0 ? i would use lvm
[18:37] <Koyaanis1> i dont know what lvm is :(*
[18:37] <OerHeks> !lvm
[18:38] <shamurai> I also wouldn't use software raid with ssd. Oerheks is right, look into lvm.
[18:39] <Koyaanis1> so i need an alternate install iso
[18:42] <Koyaanis1> so LVM is just a software raid_
[18:42] <Koyaanis1> ?
[18:42] <HackerII> 2hoomhatch
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> Just to make sure here.. I also have another 3 TB HDD that is currently encrypted, there wont be any problems with its data when i use LVM right_
[18:43] <OerHeks> no, logical volume managment. i thought lvm + lvm/encrypted is an option during install ?
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> ?
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> yes it is OerHeks
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> but i didnt know what the hell it was so i ignored it
[18:44] <shamurai> Also to solve your grub error the problem is likely that grub is detecting the raid as /dev/mapper instead of /dev/mappper/name
[18:45] <Koyaanis1> what does that mean?
[18:45] <NGC3982> So, im trying to move /home/catalogue/files/ to /home/. The catalogue is very, very big. Best way?
[18:45] <fowl> hi audio keeps skipping, how do i fix it??
[18:45] <fowl> audio everywhere skips
[18:46] <Koyaanis1> im just gonna try to reinstall it with LVM now.. if it doesnt work i will kill myself
[18:46] <Koyaanis1> wish me luck
[18:46] <shamurai> pastebin.com/gJcgGHPX
[18:46] <ObrienDave> been nice knowing you ;P
[18:47] <shamurai> some info there for you.
[18:47] <fowl> is a typical ubnutu feature
[18:48] <Koyaanis1> oh
[18:48] <Koyaanis1> thanks
[18:48] <NGC3982> sudo mv -i /home/hawking/media/home/kruger/ /home/hawking/ <- is the command i'm running, and the contents of the catalogue is like 2TB.
[18:48] <Koyaanis1> ill take a screenshot ofi t and test it out
[18:48] <NGC3982> Is that really the best way?
[18:55] <Koyaanis1> ok
[18:55] <Koyaanis1> im at the Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda part now
[18:56] <FlipflopImaMop> If I am looking for an active channel to get my feet wet with IRC, which channel should I join?
[18:57] <shamurai> This channel is very active, but it really depends on what your interested in.
[18:58] <squinty> !alis | FlipflopImaMop
[18:58] <FlipflopImaMop> I thought so, I guess watching accounts join and leave was making it look a little dead
[18:58] <FlipflopImaMop> Thanks squinty
[18:59] <k1l_> FlipflopImaMop: we have a seperate channel for chatting: #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to keep this channel support only. so a silent support channel is a good sign :)
[19:00] <FlipflopImaMop> Ah looks like I'll have to take a look, thanks!
[19:00] <ObrienDave> FlipflopImaMop, and you can suppress join/part messages in most IRC clients
[19:00] <ObrienDave> *they give me a headache*
[19:02] <k1l_> !silentirc | FlipflopImaMop
[19:02] <k1l_> hmm, that wasnt the command i wanted
[19:02] <kadiro> loll
[19:02] <ObrienDave> +1 k1l_ ;P
[19:03] <urist_> k1l_: where do you find all these commands you can use on this channel?
[19:04] <Pici> !brain
[19:04] <k1l_> !bot
[19:04] <kadiro> !ubuntu | urist_
[19:04] <ObrienDave> urist_, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[19:06] <urist_> ty
[19:07] <James_Freewall> hi
[19:08] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: were you the one helping me earlier?
[19:08] <kadiro> hi James_Freewall
[19:09] <Koyaanis1> this shit is killing me. i selected LVM and its still the same result..
[19:09] <shamurai> Trying...
[19:09] <Koyaanis1> i have no idea what im doing
[19:09] <shamurai> where is grub trying to install? Should give you a location.
[19:10] <Koyaanis1> /dev/sda i think
[19:10] <James_Freewall> how can i hping3 somone offline using my ubuntu box
[19:11] <shamurai> Try physically unplugging your other disk. I wonder if grub is installing there instead.
[19:11] <Koyaanis1> i did...
[19:11] <Koyaanis1> im not gonna risk losing 2.5 TB of data lol
[19:11] <shamurai> In the bios is the sata operation set to raid?
[19:11] <Koyaanis1> this is what i had at the beginning of the installation https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lh8vpavqmf6e6f/2015-08-05%2020.59.59.jpg?dl=0
[19:12] <Koyaanis1> later after the fatal error it gave me tons of options to install to
[19:12] <Koyaanis1> one of them being speed on 256.1 GB (stripe), which i chose and didnt work.. and others which were smaller and had (linear) behind it
[19:12] <Koyaanis1> i didnt take a screenshot of that ..
[19:13] <James_Freewall> Koyaanis1 what's your problem
[19:13] <Koyaanis1> i dont even know..
[19:13] <Koyaanis1> something along a bootloader/raid 0
[19:15] <James_Freewall> nice
[19:15] <Koyaanis1> also another question hasnt been answered.. i have an NTFS HDD with data on it.. can i use it on linux?
[19:15] <ObrienDave> yes
[19:15] <James_Freewall> Koyannis1: what?
[19:16] <shamurai> Koyaanis1, have you tried manually partitioning it instead?
[19:16] <Koyaanis1> James_Freewall: ... NTFS
[19:16] <ObrienDave> *sighs*
[19:16] <Koyaanis1> how the hell do you partition it?
[19:16] <ObrienDave> gparted
[19:16] <Koyaanis1> also your alt ctrl f2 opened some login and it had to reboot
[19:17] <shamurai> During the install process it should ask you if you want to manually partition or automatically.
[19:17] <Koyaanis1> Invalid partition table on /dev/sda - wrong signature at 4c00.
[19:17] <Koyaanis1> that sounds nice
[19:17] <shamurai> Select manually then post a pic of the next screen.
[19:17] <Koyaanis1> i dont think there was a manually option anywhere
[19:18] <Koyaanis1> ill install it again and take a screenshot of every step ok
[19:18] <shamurai> Just the partition steps please.
[19:18] <ObrienDave> rut roh, bigger problems than i have time to help with
[19:18] <James_Freewall> kadiro
[19:19] <kadiro> yes James_Freewall
[19:19] <Koyaanis1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2lzisvmrfbvc5z/2015-08-05%2021.19.20.jpg?dl=0
[19:20] <shamurai> say yes
[19:21] <ObrienDave> Koyaanis1, don;t scale the screenshots. we can't read them :S
[19:22] <shamurai> It was just saying that it detected partitions on his raid volume and wanted to know if it should unmount them.
[19:22] <Koyaanis1> wtf ObrienDave
[19:22] <dougl> Koyaanis, are you trying to install on a virtual machine?
[19:22] <YellowFis> Hello. I'm upgrading from 14.04 to 15.04 and I'm worried that selecting encrypted home folder will delete my files. Will it? It's running right now and I'm not sure if I can even stop the process.
[19:22] <Koyaanis1> no dougl ... virtual machines auto install everything
[19:22] <Koyaanis1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gho58lyy3c62oyv/2015-08-05%2021.21.08.jpg?dl=0
[19:23] <ObrienDave> oops :S
[19:23] <shamurai> Something else option
[19:23] <Koyaanis1> theres so much
[19:23] <Koyaanis1> to select from, i have to scroll to get all of it
[19:23] <shamurai> Yeah several failed attempts I would guess.
[19:24] <ObrienDave> Koyaanis1, stop with the bad language and obfuscated swearing
[19:24] <YellowFis> Please someone tell me my files aren't deleted. Does selecting encrypted home folder delete the files when upgrading using the installer?
[19:24] <Koyaanis1> wa
[19:25] <fowl> audio everywhere skips on ubuntu 15.04 what do i have to poke to fix i
[19:26] <k1l_> YellowFis: why dont you do a regular upgrade with using the updater that loads the updates from the ubuntu servers?
[19:26] <k1l_> YellowFis: and you will need to upgrade to 14.10 first, and then to 15.04.
[19:26] <tgm4883> k1l_: sounds like it's too late, already running
[19:26] <YellowFis> k1l_ I tried that but couldn't figure out how.
[19:27] <YellowFis> Does this page say that home folders are kept intact when upgrading? http://askubuntu.com/questions/61619/upgrading-ubuntu-with-encrypted-home
[19:27] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9suvpsi2c82w3ov/2015-08-05%2021.26.05.jpg?dl=0
[19:27] <YellowFis> er, when upgrading AND encrypting.
[19:27] <Koyaanis1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tabfl3uxlshf7v3/2015-08-05%2021.26.13.jpg?dl=0
[19:29] <Koyaanis1> i dont know why its named isw_fgdadgifj. that seems very arbitriary
[19:30] <shamurai> Ok so what I would do here is boot into the live mode then open up gparted and blow away everything.
[19:31] <Koyaanis1> this wont kill my ssd for good will it
[19:31] <msxon> hi all
[19:31] <shamurai> No unless you do about a million times.
[19:31] <msxon> i have disabled guest  account but after sometime ti will appear again
[19:31] <Koyaanis1> well im already in it live.. thats how i connected here
[19:32] <shamurai> ah okay so launch gparted and select the raid volume and blow away all the partitions
[19:32] <Koyaanis1> so it says cant have a partition outside the disk now when i start gaparted
[19:32] <shamurai> We want to start fresh.
[19:32] <Koyaanis1> "ignore"
[19:33] <Koyaanis1> and now it says "invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 4c00"
[19:33] <Koyaanis1> "ignore" again
[19:33] <JustSighDudes> If ubuntu landscape is open source, then why is it limited to 10 machines? Or is there a version somewhere that's unlimited?
[19:34] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: it's open source?
[19:34] <B13THERS> hallo
[19:34] <shamurai> landscape is a canonical purchased product.
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> Oh. I just assumed it was open source.
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> My bad.
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> Damn it.
[19:34] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipcto9ubjruomcn/2015-08-05%2021.33.55.jpg?dl=0
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> Are there any open source alternatives?
[19:35] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: what are you looking to do?
[19:35] <notfowl> audio skips in ubuntu 15.04 how what do i fix it
[19:35] <JustSighDudes> tgm4883, package management/ updates etc.
[19:35] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: also, just because something is open source, doesn't mean it doesn't have restrictions
[19:35] <shamurai> You want the /dev/mapper
[19:35] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: You are thinking of Free and/or GPL
[19:36] <JustSighDudes> tgm4883, yeah I meant GPL
[19:36] <Koyaanis1> so...
[19:36] <JustSighDudes> I think I'm just gonna learn ansible
[19:36] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: You could look at http://spacewalk.redhat.com/ I've read that it can do debian/ubuntu too
[19:37] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: or puppet, salt, etc
[19:37] <JustSighDudes> tgm4883, I tried that. It doesn't work too well with ubuntu
[19:37] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: although spacewalk I think is more in line with landscape
[19:37]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[19:37] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: how many machines?
[19:37] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: what exactly do i want of it now? deleted speed1?
[19:38] <shamurai> Koyaanis1: can you pvt msg me/
[19:38] <shamurai> ?
[19:38] <Koyaanis1> i dont know how
[19:39] <elisa87> can you please take a look at the question I asked here? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31841174/typeerror-e-is-undefined-in-d3-js-using-firefox-and-ubuntu14-04
[19:39] <Dro__> i'm wondering why Ubuntu is using too much memory : free -m output : Total: 5832 Used : 5394 Free: 437
[19:40] <squinty> Koyaanis1, if you are using xchat or hexchat right click on the nick you want to open a dialog with and then click  "open dialog"
[19:46] <tgm4883> Dro__: why is that too much memory?
[19:46] <Dro__> tgm4883, i don't know, it seems that browsers uses too much mem
[19:47] <tgm4883> !ram | Dro__
[19:47] <backbox> hi
[19:47] <backbox> im new to linux world
[19:48] <backbox> i want be to the network security side like ethical jacker.Is there is any sites or hands on which will be useful to self study
[19:48] <artois> well, browsers actually do use too much ram, too :p
[19:48] <artois> backbox: take things apart and see how they break
[19:48] <artois> /msg alis list *hacking*
[19:48] <backbox> ?
[19:49] <tgm4883> we don't support hacking here
[19:49] <artois> course you do, hacking is key to GNU/Linux
[19:49] <backbox> not exactly hacking
[19:49] <OerHeks> ethical jacker .. oh wait, hacker
[19:49] <artois> backbox: don't mind the people who don't know words :)
[19:49] <Pici> backbox: ##security might be a good start, ask alis for fmore
[19:49] <backbox> im asking regarding offensing hacking
[19:50] <backbox> ok
[19:50]  * tgm4883 sighs
[19:50] <JayBau> hello, I am normally using just terminal for my hosts, and new to this KDE/GNOME/Unity thing
[19:50] <JayBau> what are your games? :D
[19:50] <masterkhan> hello - i have a serious problem. my unity desktop environment is completely messed up. my wallpaper is showing a picture similar to those distorted images you get when scanning for  a tv channel on your tv. My desktop is unresponsive and i can only open apps via terminal. if i try interacting with unity panel my computer freezes and im forced to restart. help!
[19:51] <ddybing> Hi. I have a problem when I connect my USB pendrive. I get an error saying something like "Driver reports the block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512". Can someone help me? :(
[19:51] <masterkhan> right now im using xchat via ubuntu but i can't do much more. if i try opening a browser my computer will freeze
[19:52] <masterkhan> i would google for help if i could access my browser!
[19:53] <elisa87> so I have my index.html file which js script inside in /var/www folder but when I look at console js in firefox the things I had used console.log() don't appear
[19:53] <tgm4883> artois: as we both know, words have a dictionary meaning, and a meaning by how they are widespead used (eg. literally). You are correct in your definition of hacking, but we both know that wasn't what he was asking
[19:53] <masterkhan> i tried resetting graphics driver but still have same problem
[19:53] <kadiro> masterkhan: try opening your browser from terminal to see what's happen ( errors )
[19:53] <squinty> masterkhan,  if you have updated your kernel recently, might want to try accessing the grub boot screen and selecting a previous kernel
[19:53] <masterkhan> i've tried. i don't want to risk freezes up my computer again kadiro
[19:54] <artois> tgm4883: cool, so I don't even have to talk anymore since you know what I'm thinking
[19:54] <artois> should come in handy
[19:54] <kadiro> ok masterkhan i just tryed to help you
[19:54] <tgm4883> artois: heh, if not talking anymore is what makes you happy go right ahead
[19:55] <masterkhan> i haven't updated kernel. the only thing i did was trying to get multiview on dual monitor and i read i needed proprietey drivers. i changed settings in nvidia settings manager and then rebooted and now i find myself in this mess. i tried reverting back to previous defauly gpu settings and i still have this problem!
[19:55] <artois> tgm4883: why use if, if you know what I'm thinking =P
[19:55] <artois> elisa87: try #javascript
[19:55] <user1254> anyone know a tool to measure the actual power consumption in Watts ?
[19:55]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[19:55] <artois> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattmeter
[19:56] <user1254> lol. already have that one :). I mean for ubuntu
[19:56] <tgm4883> user1254: I've got one of these, pretty handy http://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU
[19:57] <masterkhan> can someone tell me how i can goback to defauly ubuntu whilst maintaining the files i've saved in my home directories?
[19:57] <tgm4883> user1254: well I'd assume your power supply would need to support it somehow
[19:57] <masterkhan> sorry - not default* - i want to revert back to original gpu set up
[19:57] <tgm4883> masterkhan: just the GPU setup?
[19:58] <kadiro> masterkhan: try from your old kernel
[19:58] <wileee> masterkhan, No way really if you updated, your installed drivers can be fixed most likely.
[19:58] <user1254> Ive heard there is such a tool for windows. It shows the actual power consumed by a laptop
[19:58] <squinty> masterkhan,  grub boot menu -> recovery mode
[19:58] <tgm4883> user1254: I thought the default battery icon has some stats for that
[19:58] <tgm4883> user1254: I dont' have my laptop with me right now to chek
[19:59] <masterkhan> yeah, i've set up so many things on ubuntu i just dont have the time to reset them up. restarting ubuntu will cost me so much time which i dont have. also i want to know how to fix this issue in case it happens again, hich it might do if i reinstall ubuntu
[19:59] <tgm4883> masterkhan: I would think removing the gpu drivers and removing entries from xorg.conf would do that
[20:00] <masterkhan> squinty, i don't want to revert to defauly ubuntu - just want to set the graphics configuration back to defauly - can you do that via grub recovery?
[20:00] <kadiro> masterkhan: just try from your old kernel if updated
[20:00] <masterkhan> kadiro, i never updated to new kernel...
[20:00] <user1254> tgm4883: hmm you maybee right. it has an 'Rate' entry which is showing the current rate of discharge in [W]
[20:01] <squinty> masterkhan,  iirc, recovery gives the equivalent of "nomodeset" so one can boot to stable desktop or tty where such things as drivers can be removed etc
[20:01] <wileee> masterkhan, I would bet you can get to a tty, ^^^^
[20:01] <kadiro> oh well in this case i have no idea but may be you will check or update your drivers for grafic card masterkhan
[20:02] <masterkhan> what is tty?
[20:02] <wileee> !tty
[20:02] <kadiro> alt+ctrl+F1 ..6
[20:02] <Bashing-om> masterkhan: Show us what you are working with, Pastebin the outputs of terminal commands ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ; sudo lshw -C display ' as a place to start .
[20:03] <masterkhan> i can only paste here im afraid
[20:03] <Bashing-om> !paste | masterkhan
[20:04] <masterkhan> ubottu, i understand but i can't open browser without computer freezing up and having to restart!
[20:04] <kadiro> Bashing-om: he can't access to internet i guess
[20:05] <wileee> masterkhan, read the bots message 'pastebinit'
[20:05] <kadiro> use !pastebinit
[20:06] <kadiro> followed by your message if i understand
[20:06] <wileee> !pastebinit | masterkhan
[20:07] <masterkhan> maybe i can paste the relevant line? - what specifically do you want to know.? the only thing I can see from the information that i don't understand is in the "resources"
[20:08]  * kadiro sighs
[20:08] <wileee> masterkhan, If you do not read the links and just assume we will not have you follow the paste model etc, you're gonna be here a long time waiting
[20:09] <masterkhan> i can't get it to work
[20:10] <wileee> !details | masterkhan
[20:10] <masterkhan> ok - i think i probably just need to reset gpu settings to default. Can someone just explain what i need to do in terminal to achieve this?
[20:11] <wileee> masterkhan, I will not bother you again, however I hope you're getting the message, follow instructions, not you own ideas, and give details.
[20:12] <kadiro> masterkhan: the others helper need you to past things to know what kind of gpu card you have
[20:12] <wileee> you've already lost excellent help
[20:13] <Gotolei> my 14.04 install just upgraded nvidia-331 to nvidia-340 today, and now I only get a black screen after plymouth
[20:13] <masterkhan> another gpu issue
[20:14] <masterkhan> if it wasn't for driver issues ubuntu would be great
[20:14] <Gotolei> laptop, fwiw. i've had bumblebee working fine since january
[20:15] <wileee> masterkhan, You are externalizing your user errors, we do not need the drama.
[20:15] <wileee> own up, don't blame the OS
[20:16] <kadiro> masterkhan: from terminal type: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A1
[20:16] <wileee> Gotolei, for bumble bee there is a ppa right?
[20:16] <Gotolei> i think? lemme check
[20:16] <kadiro> or install hardinfo that give you all info about hardware
[20:17] <tgm4883> Gotolei: nice, I've had prime working with my AMD card for about 2 weeks. it's pretty sweet
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: In your case; try : ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings ' .
[20:17] <Gotolei> only way i can get into the desktop is with nomodeset
[20:17] <wileee> Gotolei, Just trying to make sure we know where the nvidia came from.
[20:18] <wileee> Gotolei, check Bashing-om's message
[20:18] <Gotolei> under the 'additional software' window, it says the one installed is the recommended one
[20:18] <masterkhan> it says VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220] [10de:0a20] (rev a2)
[20:19] <Dex7> Is it dangerous to run (  $ rm -rf /  )  (without root privilege)
[20:19] <Dex7> does it remove everything within the /media ?
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Beaware, I exoect BumbleBee to be expunfedm and nvidia-setting to take it's place. Ypu may not like that option .
[20:20] <Gotolei> iirc prime only allows for one or the other to be run at one time, and not per-program?
[20:20] <masterkhan> the recommended nvidia driver for me is 340.76 i believe
[20:20] <tgm4883> Gotolei: i've got it per-program with my AMD hardware
[20:21] <Gotolei> then that should be fine, i just don't want the nvidia card running 24/7 and eating up unnecessary power
[20:21] <Bashing-om> kadiro: masterkhan " GT216 [GeForce GT 220] " is that card not relegated to legacy be Nvidia ??
[20:21] <masterkhan> yes Bashing-om
[20:21] <gambl0re> how do i force delete a directory...rm -rf not working
[20:22] <Matt_teni> sudo maybe?
[20:22] <Matt_teni> sudo rim -rf
[20:22] <kadiro> Bashing-om: oh yes sorry i don't see that before
[20:22] <Matt_teni> or start file managed in sudo mode?
[20:22] <gambl0re> ?
[20:22] <gambl0re> why would i need to use sudo
[20:23] <Gotolei> bashing: 'linux-headers-generic already newest version'
[20:23] <Gotolei> just skip to next step i guess?
[20:23] <Kgirthofer> gambl0re: do you own the directory?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Yeah, just cheap insurance, go on .
[20:24] <gambl0re> uh yeah
[20:24] <masterkhan> i would have thought there was a straight forward way to reset gpu settings to default given how often these problems probably pop up
[20:24] <Kgirthofer> then it would work
[20:24] <gambl0re> Matt_teni giving me false information
[20:24] <Kgirthofer> what errors are you getting if any
[20:24] <OerHeks> gambl0re, so why is that command not working?
[20:24] <Gotolei> ..supposedly nvidia-304 is "current", even though 340/346 were automatically installed/recommended  respectively
[20:24] <Gotolei> ok the
[20:24] <gambl0re> it says -rf options command not found
[20:24] <Gotolei> ok then*
[20:24] <gambl0re> or something like that
[20:24] <gambl0re> its not a permission error
[20:25] <Kgirthofer> do the command and paste the exact output
[20:25] <OerHeks> !paste
[20:25] <gambl0re> nevermind rm -rf worked
[20:26] <gambl0re> i was doing rmdir -rf befre
[20:26] <Matt_teni> gambl0re, you said the command wasn't working. so i thought maybe permission might be the error
[20:26] <gambl0re> yea right..
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Something not smelling right. What card(s) are we working with ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' ? 304 to 346 is too great of a stretch .
[20:28] <Gotolei> laptop is t430, card is NVS 5400M
[20:28] <Gotolei> problem is on different computer so can't just copy/paste
[20:29] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Show us the output from the 'lspci' command, so I can match the card to the proper driver .
[20:29] <tgm4883> Gotolei: you can use pastebinit
[20:29] <tgm4883> !pastebinit
[20:30] <masterkhan> hmm, ive googled on my phone and found the following command "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*"   --but this isn't working in my terminal. i get a message saying can't find anything related to nvidia
[20:31] <Gotolei> http://pastebin.com/SsFhL9V7
[20:31] <Gotolei> @ Bashing-om ^
[20:32] <Bashing-om> masterkhan: Then we are back to square one, Maybe you do not even have Nvidia graphics ? We nned to see the requested outputs so we KNOW what we are working eith .
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Looki'n at you http://pastebin.com/SsFhL9V7 .
[20:32] <Gotolei> and yeah something's definitely smelly, i can log in now but compiz is failing
[20:32] <kelledin> well, here I am with another nVidia GPU problem
[20:32] <masterkhan> ive already pasted the text from the cmd you suggested. it says i have gt 220
[20:32] <urist_> !svn
[20:32] <masterkhan> @ Bashing-om
[20:33] <kelledin> in my case I'm loading the nvida-340 driver from xorg-edgers PPA
[20:33] <kelledin> on ubuntu 15.04 amd64
[20:33] <masterkhan> description: VGA compatible controller
[20:33] <masterkhan>        product: GT216 [GeForce GT 220]
[20:33] <masterkhan>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[20:33] <masterkhan>        physical id: 0
[20:33] <masterkhan>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[20:33] <masterkhan>        version: a2
[20:33] <kelledin> if i boot up with systemd.unit=multi-user.target, I can run startx and get a working X11 screen with the nvidia driver
[20:34] <OerHeks> uh oh, startx is depreciated >> sudo service lightdm start
[20:34] <kelledin> but if I let it boot up with lightdm, I get the classic dialog insisting that I'm in low-resolution mode
[20:34] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  the 340 driver is available in the repos. no need for the xedgers ppa
[20:34] <wileee> kelledin, not sure you would want startx either
[20:34] <kelledin> wileee: i did startx merely to verify that the nvidia driver was working
[20:35] <wileee> kelledin, that makes no sense but okay.
[20:35] <kelledin> i don't see why it's working, yet the lightdm startup insists that it's not
[20:36] <kelledin> xileee: if it hadn't coughed up that error dialog every time I booted to the GUI, I wouldn't have bothered with startx
[20:37] <pecorade> hi
[20:37] <kelledin> now I need to figure out why lightdm thinks my working xorg config is non-working?
[20:38] <ubuntu8> How exactly do I make a primary partition not primary?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  nvidia-xconfig
[20:39] <kelledin> ubuntu8: remove it and re-create it
[20:40] <Campo> asd
[20:41] <mancomunado> How to restore a file just deleted from linux? not at the bin
[20:41] <ubuntu8> thanks, I think I can do that
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Confirmed that the 346 driver is the one you want ( Nvidia recommends the 352, but I find in many cases the 352 is too cutting edge) . 346 is now available in the 14.04 release repository .
[20:43] <Gotolei> aright, so just install that one through 'additional drivers' again?
[20:44] <kelledin> BluesKaj: did that.  lightdm still insists on starting up in low-graphics mode
[20:45] <kelledin> or rather coughing up the low-graphics mode dialog
[20:46] <jwash> anyone here know how i can auto mute flash from my browser? i don't like sound to come from the automatic videos playing on news sites, or other flash ads
[20:46] <wileee> ubuntu8, you need an extended to put your partition insider
[20:47] <wileee> inside*
[20:47] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  which ubuntu version?
[20:47] <Chaser> jwash: flashblock extension if you are using firefox.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: One may do so, still purge all old drivers. O like terminal my self ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' see what the system picks for a driver (?) .
[20:47] <ubuntu8> I can extend a partition, make a logical one, move the data across and delete the primary, right?
[20:47] <jwash> i don't want to block all flash, just mute it
[20:48] <wileee> jwash, You might consider an adblocker and or noscript they will be gone.
[20:49] <jwash> i'm happy to let them play, just not with sound ;)
[20:49] <jwash> Audio Controller
[20:49] <jwash> for FF
[20:50] <mjuszczak> How can I tell Ubuntu to use a different version of ruby than /usr/bin/ruby? I have ruby installed in /opt/rubies but when I symlink /usr/bin/ruby -> /opt/rubies/foo/bin/ruby, any time apt upgrades something that depends on ruby, it reinstalls the system ruby packages and updates the symlnk. Is there an alternatives solution?
[20:50] <wileee> jwash, it not like a video where you have control in the browser, never heard of what you want.
[20:50] <TJ-> mjuszczak: use update-alternatives
[20:51] <wileee> why would the advertiser allow that if they could make sure you hear it.
[20:51] <kelledin> BluesKaj: 15.04 64-bit
[20:52] <mjuszczak> TJ-: I see that, but it doesn't look like there's ruby support in there? Or am I missing something.
[20:53] <Gotolei-laptop> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/19KqjkyV
[20:53] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  then te regular nvidia 340 recommended driver in additional drivers should work for you, there's no reason to use xedgers version which eventaully breaks due to poor support
[20:54] <kelledin> BluesKaj: i suppose it might matter that it's booting via UEFI...but again, I wouldn't expect startx to work either if it's a UEFI compatibility
[20:54] <TJ-> mjuszczak: as you're adding non-package-managed software you'd need to configure it manually. You might need to create a 'diversion' for the current "/usr/bin/ruby" too, so that when the package is upgraded it doesn't replace the "/usr/bin/ruby" symbolic link
[20:55] <kelledin> BluesKaj: and the default 340 version did the same thing.  hence why i went with the edgers PPA
[20:55] <mjuszczak> How does that work? I don't mind RTFM but is there a direction?
[20:56] <TJ-> mjuszczak: see https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html
[20:56] <BluesKaj> uefi hasn't got anything to do with it afaik , kelledin, but enlighten me if what you say it's the case
[20:56] <squinty> jwash: might want to check out FlashStopper    doesn't automatically mute the sound but it does stop the flash video from automatically playing.  you can then just turn down the volume before starting the video to play
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Gotolei-laptop: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/19KqjkyV .
[20:56] <BluesKaj> anyway it's been a long day here , think I'll call it a day
[20:57] <TJ-> kelledin: there should be clues as to what is wrong in the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log{,.old}" files (the .old should be the failed attempt before low-res mode is tried)
[20:58] <squinty> jwash:  sorry typo   should have been  FlashStopper
[20:59] <squinty> jwash:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashstopper/?src=api
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Gotolei-laptop: "0 to remove and 19 not upgraded. ' Let's get you up dated ! . ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' Then we look at what driver was installed .
[20:59] <Gotolei> fwiw it seems to be sort of working, just glitching a bit here and there
[20:59] <Gotolei> and idk how nvidia-settings works
[21:00] <Gotolei> like, somehow the system font size reset itself :?
[21:01] <dia> Gotolei, http://www.techytalk.info/lubuntu-change-fonts-dpi-when-using-proprietary-nvidia-driver/
[21:02] <dia> Gotolei, are you using the proprietary driver?
[21:02] <aaps> ab
[21:03] <TJ-> dia: changing the driver's computed DPI isn't the best solution since that effects everything, not just fonts.
[21:03] <Gotolei> dia: yeah the recommended one
[21:03] <Gotolei> not edgers
[21:04] <dia> TJ-, When i played with nvidia cards the DPI changed when using proprietary drivers
[21:04] <dia> Not just the fonts
[21:05] <TJ-> dia: it's computed based on the physical measurements of the monitor(s) and the resolution.
[21:05] <TJ-> dia:  So-called high DPI displays are generally the cause of the almost unreadable fonts
[21:07] <Gotolei> buttons etc displayed normally fwiw, just the font
[21:07] <TJ-> Gotolei: are you using rotated monitors? There's a bug in the nvidia driver's DPI calculation code that can cause some very weird results
[21:07] <Gotolei> it's a laptop
[21:07] <Gotolei> which is now stuck on plymouth, yay
[21:08] <TJ-> Gotolei: Press Esc to kill the splash screen and view any messages being hidden
[21:09] <amrX2K> Hi Fellas, I have a problem with my internet connection. Now the internet is working fine, but when I try to ping any website or ip even 8.8.8.8 its telling me "Network is unreachable"
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: ^^ we are here to get ya the driver and nvidia-settings installed ( maybe we must inplicitly remove BumbleBee ?) .
[21:09] <amrX2K> I've tried to disable the firewall with "sudo ufw disable" and reboot nothing changed.
[21:10] <TJ-> amrX2K: Sounds like a firewall is blocking ICMP echo/reply packets
[21:11] <amrX2K> @TJ-, Sounds correct, but I am not a networking guy to make sure its from the firewall since I disabled it ?
[21:11] <Gotolei> Bashing-om, i have the driver and nvidia-settings installed. i'm just trying to clean up the resulting mess
[21:11] <Gotolei> like how now when X starts, it's like 1024x768
[21:11] <TJ-> amrX2K: How about a firewall in the Internet gateway router?
[21:11] <amrX2K> Also whenever it ping, it send "Request timeout for icmp_seq
[21:12] <Gotolei> 640X480 *
[21:12] <amrX2K> @TJ- will check it right now.
[21:12] <Gotolei> with no other options :|
[21:12] <amrX2K> Its on a minimum security.
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: :) I am concerned that BumbleBee was installed from PPA, and we need to purge BumbleBee and remove the PPA .
[21:14] <mjuszczak> Thanks!
[21:14] <TJ-> amrX2K: Try this and I'll watch for incoming packets: "ping -c 5 iam.tj"
[21:15] <amrX2K> @TJ- done.
[21:15] <amrX2K> amrx ~ $ ping -c 5 iam.tj
[21:15] <amrX2K> connect: Network is unreachable
[21:16] <TJ-> amrX2K: Are you using IPv6 ... I think you've got a problem with IPv6 vs IPv4
[21:16] <ubuntu8> If I make a logical partition, can I put ubuntu there if I already have 4 primary partitions? Since I don't have extra storage items to plug in, moving things around to try and lower the number is a bit difficult
[21:16] <Bashing-om> amrX2K: TJ- " ping -c 3 iam.tj >> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
[21:18] <amrX2K> @Bashing-om how did you know about those 3 packets ?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: In the leagacy partitioning scheme, there is a maximum of 4 primary partitions, one of which may be an 'extended' partition, In this 'extended' partiton one may have 128 'logical' partitions. And yes ubuntu is happy to install to logical partitions.
[21:18] <amrX2K> @TJ- Tell me the start of the robe and I'll tackle a little bit with it and let you know whats going on. but where do I start ?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> amrX2K: That is the return in my terminal, to show there is no problem at TJ- 's distant end, The problem is in your house .
[21:19] <TJ-> amrX2K: your current connection is Comcast IPv6 ... if you're trying to ping an IPv4 and your network isn't configure for dual-stack, or needs a tunnel, that would explain your problemsw
[21:19] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: No problem. Ubuntu can be installed that way (unlike windows; it can be installed in primary partitions only).
[21:19] <Gotolei> turns out bumblebee is in universe repo
[21:19] <ubuntu8> Then I think I'm doing something wrong. I told it to install on one, but it's not working quite right. perhaps I didn't make it large enough
[21:19] <k1l_> Gotolei: bumblebee is old. nvidia-prime is the new one
[21:20] <dia> Gotolei, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6033/enabling-nvidia-driver-messes-up-splash-screen
[21:20] <amrX2K> That makes more sense since last time this problem occured I was playing with tunneling!!
[21:20] <Gotolei> nvidia also seems to think 304 is the new one
[21:20] <Gotolei> removing bumblebee, anyways
[21:20] <k1l_> Gotolei: what ubuntu?
[21:20] <TJ-> amrX2K: aha! now we start to make progress... users! :D
[21:20] <Gotolei> xubuntu 14.04
[21:20] <amrX2K> @TJ-, indeed, Thanks man
[21:20] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: 20 GB is large enough in any case. For further question you have to explain what was / is not working.
[21:21] <k1l_> Gotolei: the latest one in 14.04 is nvidia-346
[21:21] <amrX2K> @TJ-, @Bashing-om, - will restore what I did and keep you updated.
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Is Bumblebee on your system installed from PPA ?
[21:21] <Gotolei> which is what i have installed
[21:21] <Gotolei> no bashing it turns out it's not ppa
[21:22] <ubuntu8> I have it at 18.5 GB, but when I run the installer it keeps telling me it won't because I have 4 primarys. which I do, but since I was trying to put it on a logical drive, I thought it wouldn't be an issue.
[21:22] <Gotolei> but i've removed it, and the system is still displaying at 640*480 after reboot
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: :), then we should be home free, Is system updated now ? And maybe now should do some house cleaning ?
[21:23] <EriC^^> ubuntu8: you can have 3 primaries and 1 extended with many logical ones
[21:23] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: 18.5 GB works without any doubt. Do you have a swap partition? This is needed unless you have a lot of GB RAM.
[21:23] <joaocfernandes> Hi everyone what is the best solution for 3d accelerated graphics (intel integrated) on a i7-3520m ?
[21:23] <Gotolei> the system displaying at resolutions unseen since the 80s aren't what i'd call "home free"
[21:23] <Gotolei> bbiab
[21:23] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: Show the channel what the situation is by pastebin the output of ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . The story will be told .
[21:23] <dia> Gotolei, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6033/enabling-nvidia-driver-messes-up-splash-screen
[21:24] <ubuntu8> I don't think I have a swap partition. But I have 12 gigs of ram, so I do have a decent amount
[21:24] <dia> Gotolei, try putting your res in grub
[21:24] <ubuntu8> I actually moved back to windows to try and move things, just because I don't fully understand ubuntu yet, and I didn't want to break something
[21:25] <ubuntu8> I'll go over to the ubuntu demo and run the command
[21:25] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: We break ubuntu - we learn - we get to keep the pieces and put it back together .
[21:25] <ubuntu8> I mean, I don't want to break something and lose my music and whatnot.
[21:25] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: Yes 12 GB RAM is fine. Please note EriCs input because of number of partitions: 3 primarties and 1 extended containing the logicals. If you have really 4 partitions, you have to delete one.
[21:26] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8 really 4 primaries I meant.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: The beauty of ubuntu, is that if you do not get wild with 'sudo' You will not break Windows, or your files !
[21:27] <doctorly> How can I map a specific key code to a different key in Ubuntu 14.04. I am having a hard time, I need to map ESC to my SEARCH key.
[21:27] <EriC^^> what do you mean by search key?
[21:27] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: Please note you have to make a backup ALWAYS FIRST when you change something in partitions or like that! Really always. Please note if you do not make a backup your files seem to be ... worthless.
[21:28] <EriC^^> is it an fn+key ?
[21:28] <doctorly> EriC^^: I mean a physical search key
[21:28] <Gotolei> back
[21:28] <EriC^^> ubuntu8: can you paste sudo parted -l as Bashing-om suggested? it would help immensly
[21:28] <EriC^^> *immensely
[21:28] <Gotolei> Bashing-om, ubuntu8 but if you have the audacity to update a driver then expect everything to break
[21:29] <doctorly> EriC^^: I know it's code and need to map it to ESC
[21:29] <Gotolei> granted that requires sudo
[21:29] <Gotolei> or at least root pass
[21:29] <EriC^^> doctorly: xmodmap -e "keycode <ESC keycode>=<search keycode"
[21:29] <EriC^^> doctorly: use xev to get ESC's keycode
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ubuntu8: This has been said already, but to reiterate and clarify: You can only have 4 primary partitions. If you want to have logical partitions then one of those primary partitions must be an extended partition. You cannot keep all 4 of your existing primary partitions if you want to add another partition, of any type. This is not technically correct, but may get the idea across: You can can have either 4 primary ...
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ... partitions and no logical partitions, or 3 primary partitions and any number of logical partitions.
[21:30] <doctorly> EriC^^: Is the first keycode just the word 'keycode'
[21:30] <EriC^^> doctorly: yeah
[21:31] <doctorly> EriC^^: could you send that one more time, I actually don't have page up right now, sorry
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: But in all honesty .. A proprietary driver is not ubuntu . It is tacked on to what is ubuntu . We just work with what we have to work with .
[21:32] <foobarfoobar123> hello
[21:32] <Gotolei> under no circumstances is 640*480 acceptable for a 1600*900 screen
[21:32] <EriC^^> doctorly: xmodmap -e "keycode <ESC keycode>=<search keycode>"
[21:33] <Gotolei> kinda weird though. plymouth displays fine, login screen displays fine, but once it hits the desktop the screen shrinks down
[21:33] <foobarfoobar123> When I try to login via tty I get immediately thrown out
[21:33] <foobarfoobar123> *logged out
[21:33] <doctorly> EriC^^: Thanks
[21:33] <k1l_> Gotolei: see xorg.log what is going on there
[21:33] <TJ-> Gotolei: did you check the Xorg logs as I suggested?
[21:33] <ubuntu8> wait, when I run the fdisk lu, it just tries to run the installer
[21:33] <EriC^^> doctorly: no problem
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Yeah ! Granted, but that resolution is a product of a non-ubuntu driver. A very clever coder makes it work; we have to make it work better ,
[21:34] <Gotolei> can't even get mousepad open on this POS
[21:35]  * TJ- suspects the nvidia kernel shim isn't loaded
[21:35] <Gotolei> where is xorg.log, it's not in /var/log apparently
[21:35] <TJ-> Gotolei: can you access a raw Virtual Terminal (VT) without the X server ( Ctrl+Alt+F2 for VT1) ?
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Bios has a graphics driver, grub has it's graphics driver, the kerenl has a driver, and now we are loading the GUI and trying to load up the GUI's driver .
[21:36] <TJ-> Gotolei: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log*" ... if there's a file ends ".old" that is the likely location of the failed attempt to start with the proper resolution
[21:37] <Gotolei> should i just pastebin the whole thing then b/c i have no idea what i'm looking for
[21:37] <TJ-> s/F2/F1/  ... my typing is terrible
[21:37] <TJ-> Gotolei: yes, please do :)
[21:37]  * Bashing-om passes TJ- strong black coffee .
[21:38] <JOW> welcome everyone
[21:38] <TJ-> Gotolei: if you "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" you can then directly pastebin command output and files using e.g. "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> thank you JOW
[21:38] <Gotolei-laptop> http://pastebin.com/Wv1UipB3
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Reading " meridian 3.16.0-45-generic " are we ever outdated !
[21:39] <Gotolei-laptop> 14.04
[21:39] <Montauk_Monster> is there a reason i cant see the ok/cancel buttons in certain windows?
[21:40] <Gotolei-laptop> 3.13 is standard for 14.04 actually, so i'm running newer than usual
[21:40] <TJ-> Gotolei: "[    32.691] (II) intel(G0): switch to mode 1600x900@60.0 on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none"
[21:40] <k1l_> TJ-: Gotolei  [    58.043] (II) intel(G0): switch to mode 640x480@59.9 on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[21:40] <TJ-> Gotolei: then [    58.043] (II) intel(G0): switch to mode 640x480@59.9 on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[21:40] <Gotolei-laptop> ok so what do those mean in english
[21:41] <JOW> Can anyone give me a good linux/ubuntu beginners chat
[21:41] <JOW> ?
[21:41] <Gotolei-laptop> i get that it's switching the resolutions there but i don't see a why
[21:41] <k1l_> what video card was that again? seems like the issue is the switching form the nvidia card to the intel CPU video driver.
[21:41] <TJ-> Gotolei: those mode changes separated by about 26 seconds... was that whilst the driver was trying and failing to log-in?
[21:41] <ubuntu8> J0W, I think this is the beginners chat.
[21:41] <bprompt> !ot | JOW  maybe this one
[21:41] <k1l_> JOW: chat or support?
[21:42] <TJ-> Gotolei: can you show us "pastebinit <( dpkg -l 'nvidia*' )"
[21:42] <JOW> is there any free support kil?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> JOW  what is your question?
[21:42] <k1l_> JOW: this channel here is free ubuntu support by volunteers from the ubuntu community.
[21:42] <squinty> yes here
[21:45] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Gotolei I need to be away for a bit, I be back soonest .
[21:45] <TJ-> k1l_: Chuckle-worthy logging:  "[    32.004] (II) NVIDIA(0): Built-in logo is bigger than the screen."
[21:45] <EriC^^> :D
[21:46] <Gotolei> TJ-, k1l_ and whoever else: as said before it displays fine at logon, after putting the pass in it changes res
[21:47] <k1l_> Gotolei: the starting stuff doesnt load 3d drivers. after login its the first time it needs 3d drivers. but it seems to want to switch to the intel card (which is fine for the hybrid cards) but it changes the resolution.
[21:48] <Jordan_U> ubuntu8: You cannot make a logical partition if you already have 4 primary partitions (unless one of those 4 primary partitions is also an extended partition, which from your question I am assuming is not the case).
[21:48] <k1l_> Gotolei: so i guess there is still some issue with the driver so its not properly making the switch
[21:48] <Gotolei-laptop> might just reinstall at this point
[21:48] <Gotolei-laptop> it's only gotten an order of magnitude worse since i got onto this channel
[21:49] <k1l_> please show the command output of "pastebinit <( dpkg -l 'nvidia*' )"
[21:49] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010012/
[21:50] <TJ-> Gotolei: I suspect the issue is when the system switches from the Intel to Nvidia GPU, since "[    31.917] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 640 x 480"
[21:51] <Gotolei-laptop> i still don't get what that means
[21:51] <Gotolei-laptop> are the intel drivers broken as well now?
[21:51] <TJ-> Gotolei: show us "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[21:51] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010022/
[21:51] <k1l_> nvidia-settings is 331. there is a 346 one in the backports repo
[21:52] <kelledin> ok, so now it comes down to this: what triggers lightdm to insist that "the system is running in low-graphics mode"?
[21:52] <TJ-> Gotolei: That PC has a hybrid (think cost-saving) graphics hardware. It uses a single low-power GPU (Inel) to drive the monitor outputs. When more intensive video output is required the system is supposed to switch instantly to the Nvidia GPU, but the output is still routed through the Intel's outputs. This is why the Bumblebee/Prime 'kludge' is required - to handle the hardware switching between the 2
[21:53] <Gotolei-laptop> bumblebee which i had before, yes
[21:53] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK, xorg.conf  looks fine.
[21:53] <kelledin> i just went through a complete reinstall, booted with systemd.unit=multi-user.target, installed nvidia-340, ran "nvidia-xconfig", and rebooted...and it's right back to there
[21:53] <Gotolei-laptop> before the entire system was running fine on intel, and i only had to enable the nvidia gpu for games
[21:54] <Gotolei-laptop> and it would deactivate afterwards
[21:54] <Pop-Tart> Hi! I recently got an Ubuntu VPS, and I'm liking it very much. I tried to make a SSH tunnel using ssh -D 8080 user@my.vps.ip.addre.ss, and I configured Firefox to use it as a proxy server for all protocols, but when I try to go to a website, I get an error: Secure Connection Failed. I haven't found anything after a quick Google search, any suggestions?
[21:54] <TJ-> Gotolei: Yes. Bumblebee is the name of the open-source project to manage these "Optimus" hybrid GPU hardware solutions. nvidia-prime is Nvidia's implementation and the preferred way of doing it now
[21:54] <kelledin> and i'm now 100% certain it's FOS, because it even flashed the nvidia logo before it gave me the "low graphics" dialog
[21:55] <Gotolei-laptop> i have nvidia-prime installed, but evidently it's not working
[21:55] <TJ-> kelledin: look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" for clues - that *should* be the log created when the X server tried to start in high-res mode
[21:56] <TJ-> Gotolei: So far I can't see any indications of a major problem in the log. However, I've always stayed away from these Optimus systems due to the complexity of the software drivers, so not 100% sure I'd spot a clue if it were in front of me
[21:57] <Gotolei-laptop> i don't have the patience for this, this install's getting old anyways
[21:58] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: did you install the nvidia-prime package?
[21:58] <Gotolei> yes
[21:59] <Gotolei> it's been installed, rebooted, still broken
[21:59] <EriC^^> did you check the configuration program?
[21:59] <Gotolei> what configuration program
[21:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: log's look fine. The issue appears to be that the nvidia driver is initialising wth 640x480 since there's no output for it to read EDID from
[21:59] <EriC^^> open the dash and type nvidia
[21:59] <spencer_> hello,
[21:59] <TJ-> Gotolei: "nvidia-settings"
[22:01] <Gotolei> ok so what about it, i have it open
[22:01] <Nectar> Does anyone know how I can get screenfetch to run automatically in terminal?
[22:01] <Gotolei> assuming there's someone here that actually knows what they're talking about regarding optimus
[22:01] <EriC^^> that's pretty far fetched
[22:01] <OerHeks> Gotolei, howecome you have nvidia-settings 331.20-0ubuntu8 and driver 304 and 346 ... ?
[22:01] <Pop-Tart> Nectar: add screenfetch to your .bashrc
[22:02] <Nectar> just "screenfetch"
[22:02] <Gotolei> because this channel in general, i just purged everything nvidia* like half an hour ago
[22:02] <Pop-Tart> Open .bashrc with a text editor, and append 'screenfetch' to the bottom, no quotes.
[22:02] <Pop-Tart> When you open your terminal, screenfetch should run automatically.
[22:02] <Nectar> ill try. thanks
[22:02] <kelledin> TJ-: all I saw were Xorg.failsafe.* logs
[22:03] <kelledin> which all detailed fallback attempts (which used nouveau)
[22:03] <SuperLag> I don't understand how RDP can work into a box when you're remote, but a person sitting at the keyboard gets a black screen with a "No screens found" error in the Xorg log, and the Nvidia driver unloads.
[22:04] <kelledin> however, IF I reboot, go back to multi-user.target, and run startx from the console...I get a proper X screen
[22:04] <kelledin> from which I can then view /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:04] <Pop-Tart> Anyone have ideas on why my SSH tunnel isn't working?
[22:04] <TJ-> Gotolei: Does nvidia-settings show you something like this? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tzkJfRoEUv0/UzPxLPdSMEI/AAAAAAAAR98/_BH6cZ5f-18/s1600/ubuntu14.04-nvidia-settings-prime.png
[22:04] <kelledin> and verify that it has successfully loaded the "nvidia" driver
[22:05] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # is so much easier on 15.04
[22:05] <Gotolei-laptop> https://i.imgur.com/VqhNPiN.png
[22:05] <Gotolei-laptop> vaguely
[22:06] <TJ-> Gotolei: that's reassuring, confirms settings sees the Prime facility
[22:06] <Gotolei-laptop> https://i.imgur.com/30ipfpk.png
[22:06] <kelledin> so either the nvidia driver only fails when started from lightdm (which then stupidly wipes the relevant Xorg log)
[22:06] <kelledin> or lightdm is spitting out the "low-graphics" warning without legitimate cause
[22:06] <TJ-> Gotolei: on the "X sever display configuration" does it show the monitor with the correct resolution? And secondly, does it still show that correct resolution if you select the Nvidia GPU for Prime?
[22:07] <TJ-> kelledin: See "/var/log/lightdm/*" for the Xorg logs from the DM and greeter
[22:08] <Gotolei-laptop> https://i.imgur.com/79USvYK.png
[22:08] <TJ-> Gotolei: any change if you press "Detect Displays" ?
[22:09] <Gotolei-laptop> nope
[22:09] <TJ-> Gotolei: because that screen capture shows the problem as is... because the nvidia side has not found a monitor it adopts a very small default physical dimension and pixel resolution
[22:10] <kelledin> TJ-: also empty
[22:11] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: what does xrandr output?
[22:12] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010129/
[22:12] <TJ-> Gotolei: I've found a lead. Apparently, for prime, a config file in the user's home directory contains commands that should be run at log-in. Can you "pastebinit ~/.xsessionrc"
[22:12] <notfowl> audio skips in ubuntu 15.04 how what do i fix it
[22:13] <Gotolei-laptop> i don't have an .xsessionrc
[22:13] <TJ-> Gotolei: hmmm, can you "pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors"
[22:13] <gnome-shell> quit
[22:14] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: type xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x1900
[22:14] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010151/
[22:15] <Gotolei-laptop> ok so now i'm 1600x900
[22:15] <coennek> f
[22:15] <kelledin> oooh...wait a minute
[22:16] <TJ-> Gotolei: right. The clues I found suggest the commands to do that are supposed to be in .xsessionrc... but it isn't clear what is supposed to create that file, or keep it updated
[22:16] <kelledin> apparently lightdm.conf was broken
[22:16] <TJ-> kelledin: well spotted :)
[22:17] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: you don't have those resolutions in settings > display?
[22:18] <Gotolei-laptop> i didn't have them before
[22:18] <Gerowen> One observation I've noticed with Ubuntu 15.04 compared to 14.04.  When the system is under load by one application, the whole GUI (Unity/LightDM) seems to hang up, mouse stops moving and everything.  CTRL+ALT+F1 works find and is responsive.  Any ideas as to what changed to cause this?
[22:19] <Gotolei-laptop> so what now, i expect it'll revert to 640x480 once i reboot
[22:19] <EriC^^> set it from settings > display
[22:20] <Gotolei-laptop> it is set
[22:20] <Gotolei-laptop> now it is at least
[22:20] <EriC^^> set something, then set it again
[22:21] <TJ-> Gotolei: Did you say you're using Xubuntu/XFCE?
[22:22] <Gotolei-laptop> yes
[22:23] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK... that depends on lightdm. I'm not sure how relevant this is, but I've just read that one of the requirements for 14.04 Nvidia Prime is lighdm - which might infer that some additional lightdm configuration/scripting is done to support the hybrid graphics ... which may not be working for you
[22:24] <TJ-> Gotolei: did you install 14.04 fresh or is it an upgrade from a previous release?
[22:24] <Gotolei-laptop> fresh, albeit eight months ago
[22:24] <TJ-> Gotolei: Good :) .. and you had Bumblebee on originally
[22:24] <Gotolei-laptop> yes
[22:25] <Gotolei-laptop> as far as i understand lightdm is a Unity thing
[22:25] <TJ-> Gotolei: I noticed that nvidia-prime installs /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-nvidia.conf - can you pastebin that file for us?
[22:25] <TJ-> Gotolei: no, Light(weight) Display Manager (DM)
[22:26] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010208/
[22:27] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK, that looks fine
[22:28] <Gotolei-laptop> so i want those commands to run when i log in, is what i'm gathering
[22:28] <Gotolei-laptop> or whatever the command equivalents are
[22:28] <ubuntu130> I just installed ubuntu, but now it's updating to 15.04. Will that also fix my sound? In unbuntu my sound isn't working. Perhaps it didn't read my drivers?
[22:29] <TJ-> Gotolei: Those commands are executed when the X server starts. From what I'm inferring, the 'xrandr --output ..." command EriC^^ gave you is probably needed when the user session starts, but it's not clear - can't find documentation on it
[22:29] <wileee> ubuntu130, No auto updates in ubuntu, are you sure of the install release, or hit an upgrade?
[22:29] <TJ-> Gotolei: I'm wondering if there's any leftover from Bumblebee interfering here. Can you "ls -al /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/"
[22:30] <skinux> Is there a library for using Java with Ubuntu to build panel Applets?
[22:30] <wileee> ubuntu130, Sorry auto release upgrades
[22:30] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010228/
[22:30] <ubuntu130> I started with an older version, but almost as soon as I finished installing, it threw "upgrade to 15.04" at me
[22:30] <ubuntu130> So that's running
[22:30] <TJ-> skinux: I've never seen or heard of anything along those lines
[22:31] <Gotolei-laptop> in what way is nvidia-prime 'preferred' if it doesn't work without a million extra steps
[22:31] <ubuntu130> Of course, an update is always good, I'm just wanting to get my old everything working, sound, browser, etc before I really do a whole lot else
[22:31] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK, and how about the package-installed alternative: "ls -la usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/"
[22:31] <kelledin> lol, apparently an internal preseed generated a broken lightdm.conf
[22:31] <wileee> ubuntu130, that is just done depending on how you have the computer set, you don;t have to upgrade? Unless you installed an eol, what was the install?
[22:31] <ubuntu130> 14.something?
[22:32] <ubuntu130> I don't have any reason to not upgrade at this point.
[22:32] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010235/
[22:32] <TJ-> Gotolei: Usually it does work with a clean install... problems mainly seem to be when driver versions are changed or bumblebee has been used previously. The whole area of hybrid graphics is a minefield though
[22:32] <wileee> ubuntu130, Well 14.04 is supported 14.10 id eol, which is it?
[22:32] <wileee> is*
[22:32] <Gotolei-laptop> the driver automatically upgrading is what broke things in the first place
[22:33] <TJ-> Gotolei: Good, no obviously stray files there. What we need is someone with a working prime config we can compare against
[22:33] <Gotolei-laptop> 331/bumblebee worked fantastic for eight months straight
[22:33] <wileee> ubuntu130, We are running in circles, is i you want us to guess if this upgrade fixes your problem?
[22:33] <wileee> it*
[22:33] <ubuntu130> No, not really. That's way unreasonable to ask.
[22:33] <TJ-> Gotolei: yeah, it's damned annoying
[22:34] <wileee> ubuntu130, Than if you can give adequate details and an end goal, we are going nowhere. ;)
[22:34] <ubuntu130> I'm just new to it and trying to figure out what all the things are. Like getting a new came control, everything just feels weird for a while
[22:34] <ubuntu130> game control*
[22:35] <wileee> can;t help there, best of luck takes a bit to get orientated, you will be fine. ;Z)
[22:35] <ubuntu130> I hope so. I figure it can't be THAT hard. It will probably be easier once the new version is installed and I can look at things a bit more.
[22:35] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: try rebooting, who knows, if it doesn't stick you can always run the command by putting it in ~/.profile or so, and in the mean time TJ- could very well get to the bottom of the problem
[22:36] <ubuntu130> It's a pretty big update though, it's been loading for 20 minutes or so
[22:36] <ubuntu130> Then again, that's not too surprising given that I just added the OS
[22:36] <TJ-> Gotolei: I've just listed all the files in bumblebee since my hunch is that one or more is left behind and interfering. This command "pastebinit <(apt-file list bumblebee)" gives this list http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010261/
[22:37] <wileee> ubuntu130, takes about 3-4 hours here on an upgrade, I just do fresh installs.
[22:37] <skinux> Well, I downloaded and installed an "Applet" in Python that puts weather at the top....like to be able to do that using Java.
[22:37] <ubuntu130> Guess I've got some time to kill
[22:37] <skinux> Not specifically the weather part.
[22:37] <kostkon> skinux, you could also ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:37] <skinux> Oh, okay.
[22:37] <EriC^^> TJ-: maybe apt-get purge bumblebee to remove the config files?
[22:37] <EriC^^> TJ-: or dpkg -P perhaps?
[22:38] <TJ-> Gotolei: I suggested checking that the first 10 files at least, are no longer in your system, since some may be used when the X server starts
[22:38] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes, but it would be nice to know which, if any, are present and causing this. We see users suffer this from time to time and never pin-pointed the cause
[22:38] <wileee> ubuntu130, If all goes well, it should, you will be asked at the end to discard any apps/packages replaced b y new versions and not supported, you can go yes or no, not a huge issue.
[22:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:39]  * TJ- is making a very strong coffee :)
[22:40]  * wileee slips a few espresso shots to add
[22:40] <ubuntu130> I suppose till that happens, I'll lay down or play mariokart. Best not to poke at things that are changing things
[22:42] <wileee> ubuntu is pretty good for easy running and has all the tools to break and fix at will ;)
[22:42] <JOW> hey guys, I wanna set an environmental variable permanently, how do I do that?
[22:43] <JOW> when I use export it is set only temporarily
[22:43] <Gotolei> yay, everything crashing to high heaven
[22:43] <EriC^^> JOW: just for your user?
[22:43] <JOW> hummm yes Eric
[22:43] <JOW> actually for any users
[22:44] <EriC^^> JOW: oh, add it to /etc/environment
[22:44] <JOW> what file?
[22:44] <EriC^^> /etc/environment
[22:44] <EriC^^> sudo nano /etc/environment
[22:47] <JOW> Eric, it opens an open file
[22:47] <JOW> sudo nano /etc/environment opens an empty file
[22:47] <JOW> *empty no open
[22:47] <JOW> *ot
[22:47] <JOW> *nopt
[22:47] <JOW> *not
[22:48] <doctorly> I am using Ubuntu 14.04, how do I map keys by keycode?
[22:50] <EriC^^> JOW: are you using ubuntu?
[22:50] <JOW> yes
[22:50] <JOW> 14.04
[22:51] <EriC^^> add it to /etc/bashrc.bashrc i guess
[22:51] <EriC^^> *bash.bashrc
[22:51] <JOW> isn't it setup.bashrc or something?
[22:52] <EriC^^> nop
[22:52] <TJ-> remember that the shell-specific  won't apply system-wide if an alternative shell is used
[22:55] <badbodh> what about .profile ?
[22:56] <badbodh>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.0.0-2-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian stretch/sid ** CPU: 2 x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU       T4300  @ 2.10GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.10GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.8GiB, 81.5% free ** Disk: Total: 293.5GiB, 17.9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 645 HiFier Serenade III ** Uptime: 9h 27m 6s **
[22:56] <badbodh> woops, ignore that
[22:57] <wileee> 5 lines I will try ;)
[22:57] <JOW> okay guys, i solved
[22:57] <EriC^^> awesome
[22:58] <JOW> actually I changed my ~/.bashrc
[22:58] <EriC^^> that's just for your user though
[22:58] <JOW> yeah, okay that's fine
[22:58] <EriC^^> cool
[22:59] <JOW> Thanks =)
[22:59] <mioso> Whenever I am prompted for a Keyring password, should I be updating or changing it?
[22:59] <EriC^^> JOW: np :)
[23:00] <badbodh> mioso, keyring shouldn't ask for it if you don't keep changing it
[23:00] <mioso> I've never changed it/updated it? It just started showing up
[23:00] <badbodh> gnome's keyring by default uses your user password, unlike kde's wallet that needs separate pass
[23:00] <badbodh> if you changes your user pass, it will ask once
[23:01] <mioso> I don't know what it is and I'm hesitant to just type in a password from something that's unknown to be but it sounds like I should just do whatever the keyring prompt asks me to do
[23:03] <badbodh> enter your user pass once, that should shut it up. it shows up on login or any specific app triggers it ?
[23:03] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[23:04] <TJ-> mioso: If the user account password is no longer in sync with the keyring password you'll have to be asked for the keyring password when things like the WiFi passphrase are required
[23:05] <mioso> TJ I've always just pressed cancel and nothing happens. I'll type somethign in next time.
[23:06] <badbodh> does this channel handle vbox, ssh and putty stuff ?
[23:06] <TJ-> mioso: Have you changed your user account password at some point since the account was originally created? That is the usual cause
[23:06] <mioso> No. I just installed 15.04 two days ago
[23:06] <TJ-> nimbiotics: sounds like maybe the $HOME/.Xauthority file may need removing
[23:07] <earl__> does this channel do help?
[23:07] <TJ-> mioso: OK, so it looks like the keyring hasn't had its password set. I recommend setting it to the same as the user account... that should stop the manual prompts
[23:09] <Bashing-om> earl__: Yeah, ubuntu help is what we do .
[23:10] <earl__> Awesome. So I am running windows 10. I created a live Ubuntu USB, and through a long, difficult process have installed Ubuntu.
[23:10] <badbodh> long and difficult :D you should try gentoo or arch sometime
[23:11] <earl__> Now, I have a few issues. When I boot, I'm met with a "grub> " command line and I have to type "exit" to get out and get to windows
[23:11] <EriC^^> earl__: are you dual booting?
[23:11] <badbodh> turn off secureboot
[23:12] <mioso> TJ I type in keyring in the search and there's like PGP, private key, GnuPG, OpenSSH, etc? Should I type in the same password for all of those?
[23:12] <earl__> Good question. I installed Ubuntu to an external hd. when i installed, I made a EFI partition, a swap partition and an etf4 partition
[23:12] <TJ-> mioso: I think the keyring we're on about is controlled by the application "seahorse" - try searching for that
[23:12] <earl__> the short of it is that it is on an external hard drive. Secure boot is set to off
[23:13] <badbodh> mioso, no. just the first one named 'login' needs your user pass
[23:13] <EriC^^> earl__: boot a live usb and come back here
[23:13] <EriC^^> earl__: did you install ubuntu twice?
[23:14] <TJ-> mioso: if you're already in Seahorse then see what badbodh said above
[23:14] <earl__> EriC^^, I am currently on Ubuntu on the ext HD, so it's working. Also, interesting question. I went into the UEFI settings and there were two identical ubuntu boot options it seemed
[23:14] <earl__> so i could have installed twice, possiblt
[23:15] <EriC^^> earl__: that's normal, one is for nonsecureboot the other is for secureboot
[23:15] <mioso> I don't see seahorse
[23:15] <EriC^^> earl__: how did you boot into ubuntu on the ext hdd?
[23:15] <mioso> nothing named login
[23:15] <nimbiotics> TJ-: How can I fix that?
[23:15] <earl__> Power on, grub> comes up, I typed exit, select Ubuntu
[23:16] <TJ-> mioso: I assumed when you said "search" you meant from the Desktop dashboard, is that correct?
[23:16] <mioso> yers
[23:16] <EriC^^> earl__: oh, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:16] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:16] <earl__> EriC^^, ok one second..
[23:18] <earl__> EriC^^, done
[23:18] <EriC^^> link?
[23:18] <earl__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010494/
[23:19] <earl__> The Seagate would be the External HD EriC^^
[23:19] <Gerowen> Anybody have any ideas why Unity seems to be incredibly laggy after a clean install of 15.04 compared to how it behaved in 14.04?  If the system is under any significant load, the whole desktop gets slow and jittery.
[23:19] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i'm wondering if anyone has run into the following problem, in every flavour of ubuntu 15.04 i've tried so far, if full disk encryption is enabled, i can't type in the password to decrypt with a wireless keyboard...it will only work with a wired USB keyboard, once getting past that screen the wireless one works as expected?
[23:19] <EriC^^> earl__: what else is on it?
[23:19] <TJ-> mioso: OK, I'm not sure what Unity might be calling it, but the underlying application for managing key pairs and passwords is "seahorse"
[23:19] <earl__> Nothing EriC^^, after much trouble, I caved and cleaned it off. If I need to wipe it it's fine
[23:19] <i_am_a_dunce> hi guys
[23:20] <badbodh> Gerowen, make sure you have correct gcard drivers. also go to controlcenter>privacy> turn of online search
[23:20] <i_am_a_dunce> does anyone know how to get the OUTPUT of the most recent bash commands?
[23:20] <i_am_a_dunce> i tried scrolling up
[23:20] <i_am_a_dunce> but don't have enough of it
[23:20] <EriC^^> earl__: are you sure csm legacy mode is disabled?
[23:20] <TJ-> mioso: there's an overview of what to expect here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/SeahorseGPG
[23:20] <badbodh> Gerowen, you can also disable dash plugin/scopes you don't use.
[23:20] <earl__> EriC^^, no idea.
[23:20] <EriC^^> earl__: usually uefi is used with gpt partitions
[23:20] <earl__> I am a bit of a newb.
[23:21] <i_am_a_dunce> if it's not available when i scroll up, does that mean it's gone forever?
[23:21] <Gerowen> badbodh: Intel card, drivers seem to work good, because I can play my Steam games with no issues, and the online search is disabled.  It's not just the menu, it's the whole interface.  The mouse and everything will slow down to a crawl, even CTRL+ALT+F1 will take 30-45 seconds to respond sometimes.
[23:21] <EriC^^> earl__: ok, well as it is ubuntu is dependent on your other hdd to boot
[23:21] <Gerowen> badbodh: No additional drivers listed under Software and Sources.
[23:21] <mioso> TJ thank you. I'll look through that.
[23:21] <EriC^^> earl__: my advice would be to make a new partition table that's gpt, and install ubuntu there using its own efi partition and have the bootmanager boot it
[23:21] <badbodh> Gerowen, ok. then install 'htop', if things lag got to tty shell, run htop and check what's eating up.
[23:22] <EriC^^> and then select windows from grub
[23:22] <earl__> The goal was to make it so that, if I plugged in the ext HD before boot, my computer would boot to Ubuntu. If I left the ext HD unplugged from USB, then I'd boot to windows @ EriC^^
[23:22] <Bashing-om> i_am_a_dunce: The file is at " /var/log/apt/history.log " .
[23:22] <EriC^^> earl__: yeah that'll work
[23:22] <badbodh> Gerowen, you can also install lm-sensor, run 'sudo sensors-detect' to set up temperature monitor. check if cpu is running hot.
[23:23] <earl__> From what I understood, I wanted to put the ubuntu boot manager on the ext HD
[23:23] <i_am_a_dunce> Bashing-on: that appears to just be the apt log?
[23:23] <i_am_a_dunce> i ran an ls command
[23:23] <i_am_a_dunce> and would love to see its output
[23:23] <ElDiablito> i_am_a_dunce: cat .bash_history|less
[23:24] <TJ-> mioso: try pressing Alt+F2 and then the command "seahorse" ... that should start it, and if the password required to unlock its keyring isn't the same as the user password, it will ask you to type the password. Once done, edit the Passwords > Login entry, and set it to the same as the user account password
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> i'm trying to see the output of an ls command
[23:24] <badbodh> Gerowen, run "acpi -V" to check temp
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> i know what command I ran
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> but the contents of that directory somehow changed, not sure how
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> and i would love to compare the old contents to the new contents
[23:24] <Gerowen> badbodh: Just ran sensors, running about 40 celsius right now, but right now all is well.
[23:24] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: if the terminal scrollback buffer no longer contains the output, then it has gone
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> fuck me sideways.
[23:25] <xochilpili> hi all
[23:25] <badbodh> Gerowen, ok. usually mouse lag occurs when temp id too high or ram is too low
[23:25] <i_am_a_dunce> excuse my language
[23:25] <TJ-> !language | i_am_a_dunce
[23:25] <i_am_a_dunce> I apologize.
[23:25] <Gotolei-laptop> back again
[23:25] <i_am_a_dunce> I just lost like, 300+ files, and don't even know what those are at this point
[23:25] <Bashing-om> i_am_a_dunce: Lemme check. This is a file for the history . Be beack soonest.
[23:25] <earl__> So EriC^^ pardon my limited knowledge, but what should I do for next steps
[23:25] <mioso> I'll have to find a keyboard F keys. I have a ducky mini :(
[23:25] <Gotolei-laptop> things are running more or less well, but how is nvidia-prime preferred over bumblebee?
[23:25] <ElDiablito> i_am_a_dunce: ls <your parameters> > output.txt
[23:25] <badbodh> i_am_a_dunce, you cannot see past outputs of bash, you can however see past commands by pressing 'up' key in terminal
[23:26] <Gotolei-laptop> it's worse in every way as far as i can tell
[23:26] <Gerowen> badbodh: I had already installed htop in an attempt to find the culprit earlier, but I'll just try to narrow down the culprit best I can.  I've got 4 GB of RAM, so surely it's not low RAM, then again if I'm extracting a 6.2 GB archive, maybe that is it, I've been recovering all my personal files from the upgrade, and they're stored in fairly large tarballs.
[23:26] <i_am_a_dunce> i know I should have done that. but i didn't think anything would happen so i didn't output them like an idiot
[23:26] <i_am_a_dunce> if the terminal scrollback doesn't have them, they're gone forever?
[23:26] <i_am_a_dunce> 100%?
[23:26] <EriC^^> earl__: boot the live usb, make a fresh partition table using cgdisk, create the efi partition, 300mb, hexcode ef00, run mkfs.fat to make a fat32 filesystem there and in the ubuntu installer select Something else, make a root partition, select the hdd's efi partition you made, make sure th bootloader location at the bottom is correct
[23:26] <ElDiablito> i_am_a_dunce: I guess they are gone, you're right ...
[23:26] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: unless you've got some form of back-up in operation, yes
[23:27] <badbodh> Gerowen, hard disk usage also eats up cpu, if you have ntfs volumes notice 'mount-ntfs' or 'mount-ntfs-3g' in htop will be high cpu eater
[23:27] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: a better question is, how did you delete those files?
[23:27] <i_am_a_dunce> I tried using a Rhythmbox plugin called 'File Oragnizer'
[23:27] <i_am_a_dunce> Should've backed up first
[23:27] <i_am_a_dunce> I have no idea where they disapepared to
[23:28] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: "Fileorganizer is a Rhythmbox Plugin that will move and rename files according to your tags and then update the database so you don’t lose your ratings and play counts. "
[23:28] <badbodh> i_am_a_dunce, likely you lost them forver. some apps do save log, they are usually in /var/log.
[23:29] <i_am_a_dunce> Yes, but my directory had 600 files and now it has 450 so I'm very confused lol
[23:29] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: So, my reading is your files are somewhere better organised! What directory did you 'lose' the files from?
[23:29] <badbodh> it may have deleted duplicate ones. do note 'untagged' files may be mistaken as duplicates too
[23:30] <earl__> EriC^^, so essentially reinstalling Ubuntu
[23:30] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: I suspect that FO may have renamed the files based on their ID3 tags, and maybe moved them under $HOME/Music/
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> woooooooow TJ great call man
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> all of the files somehow ended up in one directory in Music
[23:30] <EriC^^> earl__: yeah
[23:30] <nimbiotics> TJ-: Sorry, I had not read your comment properly. Now I do not have a $HOME/.Xauthority file. Any other ideas?
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> but definitely not based on the tags lol
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> my tags are proper
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> but anyways, yeah, taht was the issue
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> <3
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> thanks guys
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> saved me from a maaaaajor panic attack
[23:31] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: See this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/112668/how-do-i-force-rhythmbox-to-automatically-organise-my-music-files-into-folders
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> see but here's the weird thing
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> all the files are properly tagged in rhythmbox
[23:32] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: it shows a config dialog box with a log-file ... if you lose files again just check that log-file!
[23:32] <earl__> EriC^^, well I'll try to understand all those steps :p. Thanks for the help! I'll be back hopefully
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> or anyways, appear to be
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> but when i move them
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> with fileorganizer
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> they all moved to the same directory
[23:33] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: there are several versions of ID tags.. some files may have differing versions or more than 1 version attached, and the tools have different heuristics on deciding which to use... So a tool expecting IDv3 processing a file with IDv2 sees no tag
[23:33] <i_am_a_dunce> right on. any way i can get the tags that rhythmbox sees to be the ID3 tags?
[23:33] <i_am_a_dunce> because...
[23:33] <i_am_a_dunce> every song is properly tagged with Rhythmbox (i did so manually)
[23:33] <j3r0> guys in a dual boot how do I reinstall ubuntu ?(after format)
[23:34] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: Years ago I used a tool that would correct all the tags and ensure each version of ID was present, and it was very programmable. Can't remember its name now
[23:35] <i_am_a_dunce> I'll look into it
[23:35] <i_am_a_dunce> Thanks guys :)
[23:35] <Johnny_Linux> easytag or entagged
[23:35] <TJ-> I think I'm thinking of around 2001 ... Tag&Rename on Windows :)
[23:36] <j3r0> https://askubuntu.com/questions/657045/toshiba-satellite-c50-dual-boot-windows-8-1-and-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-connects-t
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> easytag didn't really work for me
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> or anyways, didn't pick up the files i tagged with rhythmbox
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> like, according to rhythmbox, all my songs are properly tagged
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> but not according to easytag
[23:39] <i_am_a_dunce> this is so bizarre
[23:39] <i_am_a_dunce> lol
[23:42] <xochilpili> i came here, because i couldnt find anything about this: i have a preseed file im trying to make an unattendant installation but no desktop just minimal, i have set this : tasksel tasksel/first   multiselect; but i got this : "Package selecction" then when i hit enter: debian-installer menu select; how can i fix this?
[23:42] <xochilpili> sorry by my english
[23:42] <ubuntu383> Alright, so 15.04 finally managed to update and install.
[23:42] <xochilpili> or how can i skip this select packages to install?
[23:45] <i_am_a_dunce> how can i find all files with no extensions?
[23:45] <i_am_a_dunce> i think that might be the issue; some of the music doens't have an extension for whatever reason
[23:45] <xochilpili> anyone?
[23:46] <wileee> xochilpili, debian?
[23:46] <xochilpili> wileee, ubuntu
[23:47] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: "find /path/to/base/dir -regex '.*[^\.].*'  "
[23:48] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: scratch that, wrong :)
[23:49] <i_am_a_dunce> see the thing is, a lot of these files do have .'s in them
[23:49] <i_am_a_dunce> so it's probably not doable
[23:49] <i_am_a_dunce> i'll just do it manually (filter out mp3's and mp4a's first)
[23:49] <ubuntu383> is it probable that after installing ubuntu, my drivers will need changed for things like sound or graphics?
[23:53] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: "find /path/to/base/dir  -regextype posix-extended ! -regex '.+[.].+'  "
[23:54] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: you can identify files by content rather than by name
[23:55] <JayBau> what do you guys play on linux?
[23:56] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: as in "find $HOME/Music -execdir file --mime {} \; | grep 'audio/mpeg'  "
[23:58] <i_am_a_dunce> ooh cheers
[23:59] <JayBau> I'm just using linux to host, but not for playing windows, but I decided to have my desktop running with linux. problem is not sure what to play :D