[00:23] <satellite_> dummy output, please help, no sound
[00:25] <satel> no sound, need help
[00:28] <bazhang> !audio | satel have a read
[00:29] <satel> xubuntu is not reading my sound card
[00:29] <bazhang> read the many links above satel and follow them
[00:30] <satel> ok
[00:38] <xubuntu48w> Hello I need help with installing xubuntu
[00:39] <xubuntu48w> Am I in the right place?
[00:40] <bazhang> whats the question xubuntu48w
[00:40] <xubuntu48w> I cant seem to get xubuntu to install
[00:40] <xubuntu48w> I grabbed the iso but bios says its not a valid boot image
[00:41] <bazhang> install from what media
[00:41] <xubuntu48w> usb thumbdrive
[00:41] <bazhang> how was it written to usb
[00:42] <xubuntu48w> I tried just the iso, tried copying the files out of the iso, and tried in mint to make a bootable usb
[00:42] <bazhang> thats not how to do it
[00:43] <bazhang> mint should have some tools for that, ask their support
[01:12] <satellite_> !audio
[01:14] <xubuntu65w> ok im back {guy looking to install from usb}
[01:14] <xubuntu65w> ive given up on the usb...problem is the install wont work from dvd either
[01:15] <xubuntu65w> I burned the iso to the dvd but it doesnt recognize it, just boots straight into mint
[01:19] <vis_ionmas_ter> any insight?
[01:49] <satellite_> could you help me to install realtek sound card drivers
[01:49] <satellite_> i get stuck at "make" and "make install"
[02:01] <satellite_> could you help me to install realtek sound card drivers
[02:01] <satellite_> i get stuck at "make" and "make install"
[02:28] <vis_ionmas_ter> anyone here to help me??
[02:32] <satellite_> can't seem to fix dummy output... i've been working on this for over 8 hours by now
[02:33] <satellite_> !audio
[02:33] <satellite_> nothing here
[02:34] <xubuntu171> What can I get rid of in Xubuntu to make a VMWare image smaller?
[02:35] <satellite_> aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
[13:31]  * lopta waits patiently for a laptop to boot.
[13:42] <lopta> Are Broadcom BCM4401 (100base-TX) or BCM4311 (802.11g) network interfaces supported on Xubuntu?
[13:42] <holstein> !broadcom
[13:43] <lopta> Thanks holstein!
[13:43] <holstein> lopta: personally,  i replace broadcom chips when they are problematic, but, it wont hurt to try the available drivers that are not allowed to be shipped
[13:44] <lopta> holstein: We may have a less awkward USB WiFi NIC around. I'll see whether I can locate one.
[13:46] <holstein> lopta: i literally just wire up the machine, and install what broadcom driver is needed, and do a system update.. then, i reboot and test..
[13:47] <lopta> holstein: The wired interface doesn't work either though.
[13:47] <holstein> well, you can take the hard drive to a machine that has hardware that *does* support linux, and do the work there.. or, you can follow the "no internet connection" suggestions at the link i gave
[13:48] <holstein> i have, in the past, at a LUG meeting, dl'd the driver and software needed to a stick, migrated it to the machine in question, and installed and provided support for a users broadcom chip, without having a connection to the internet
[13:48] <holstein> its quite uncommon to have a wired chip that doenst work..
[13:53] <lopta> holstein: I was certainly a bit surprised.
[14:16] <ScoDal> Uhoh my xubuntu doesn't mount my exfat flash drive, how can I fix this?
[14:18] <lopta> ScoDal: I don't find that surprising.
[14:18] <lopta> ScoDal: Can you reformat it as FAT?
[14:18] <ScoDal> I format it to exfat from an OSX computer so it would work cross platform
[14:18] <lopta> exfat is proprietary, I think.
[14:18] <ScoDal> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[14:18] <ScoDal> that fixed me instantly, gained access to it now :)
[14:18] <lopta> Oh good.
[14:28] <lopta> brb
[14:29] <ScoDal> Okie dokie :)
[15:51] <phantom1024> is there a way to keep my browser to always open on workspace 1 ?
[15:51] <phantom1024> it keeps switching workspaces when I open a link from the terminal for example
[15:51] <lopta> phantom1024: Does it currently open on the workspace you're looking at when it launches?
[15:51] <phantom1024> yes
[15:58] <drc> phantom, not sure if this is what you are looking for but Settings>Window Manager Tweaks>Focus> switch to window's workspace.  When this is selected, opening a URL in, say, IRC/hexchat will open in the browser whereever it's open at (if it's open, if not it will open in the desktop where you are at)
[15:58] <drc> That's as cose as I can come to an answer for you :)
[15:58] <drc> s/cose/close
[16:02] <phantom1024> drc, that is what i'm looking for
[16:02] <phantom1024> thank you
[16:02] <drc> np...enjoy :)
[16:05] <lopta> Woohoo! The boss found a little USB 802.11n adaptor that Xubuntu just magically recognised.
[16:06] <xubuntu44d> hello
[16:07] <xubuntu44d> I am trying to install xubuntu on a laptop and altought I DID choose "French" on the first screen the keyboard STAY in US/Qwerty and this is very dangerous when typing the root password and the encryption passphrase for the HDD.
[16:08] <xubuntu44d> is there a way to get to a shell or advanced config to set the keyboard to the right layout ?
[16:08] <Luyin> xubuntu44d on *ubuntu, use of a root password is discouraged
[16:08] <xubuntu44d> not my point ;) same problem for the user password
[16:09] <Luyin> xubuntu44d you might need to install additional language support for french after the installation
[16:09] <Luyin> settings > languages and regions
[16:09] <xubuntu44d> the problem is that any non US user will instanly lock himself up from the computer simply by typing the password or passphrase
[16:09] <xubuntu44d> lock himself out :)
[16:09] <xubuntu44d> sorry
[16:09] <GridCube> !locale | xubuntu44d
[16:10] <xubuntu44d> I know this
[16:10] <xubuntu44d> I am talking about the installer
[16:10] <xubuntu44d> when I don't have access to the whole system ;)
[16:10] <xubuntu44d> or maybe I have but I don't know how
[16:11] <GridCube> ah. well, probably you need to start a live session and use the installer from there?
[16:11] <xubuntu44d> The experience for a "novice" is this one insert the CD/USB, choose "French" (or whatever langage), go on, choose a passphrase for the disk and a password for the user and get locked out at next reboot because the keyboard was in qwerty ;)
[16:11] <xubuntu44d> Ok
[16:11] <GridCube> maybe not all modules get loaded on the simple installer until after the install is complete
[16:11] <xubuntu44d> I'll try with a live session good idea :)
[16:12] <GridCube> they change to spanish when i tried, but i havent done an install in a year, so something could have changed :P i just do dist-upgrades
[16:13] <xubuntu44d> ok I will try the live install way because it sounds like I will be able to have a proper keyboard setup and I'll confirm
[16:15] <xubuntu44d> ok without even rebooting, simply quitting the installer let me in a live session where I was able to go into settings/keyboard and change the layout before relauching the installer
[16:15] <xubuntu44d> not really obvious for a linux novice, would be much more user friendly to have the keyboard asked about before going on but at least there is a solution
[16:16] <xubuntu44d> I probably should fill a usability bug on the installer :)
[16:16] <xubuntu44d> thanks :)
[16:18] <lopta> When I shutdown this laptop (a Dell Latitude D520), I get the Xubuntu splash screen with the spinny thing on it but it doesn't power down.
[18:18] <scodal> How the heck do you disable the click on Title bar and automatically start moving it around feature?
[18:19] <knome> scodal, please mind the language.
[18:22] <scodal> How the honky tonk piano do you disable the click on Title bar and automatically start moving it around feature?
[18:34] <scodal> Is there no way to turn that off? I'd much prefer it to be click and hold to drag
[18:35] <GridCube> scodal: thats how it works, you might have some weird synaptics setup
[18:35] <scodal> It's a thinkpad with UltraNav
[18:37] <scodal> Well good enough I digress about that, thanks yall :)
[18:43] <asantos3> Uh, hi everyone
[18:43] <knome> hello
[18:43] <asantos3> Did anyone got fps drops in their games with an update or something?
[18:44] <asantos3> Not a powerful gpu or anything but eh it works
[18:45] <asantos3> Yesterday when I went to play some cs:go I got some low fps, like ~20
[18:45] <asantos3> I usually got it at ~50
[18:45] <mrkramps> asantos3, you don't want to tell us about your system's specs, do you?
[18:46] <mrkramps> and maybe your xubuntu version …
[18:46] <ObrienDave> that would be way too easy ;P
[18:46] <asantos3> Radeon HD 7670M, Xubuntu 15.04
[18:46] <mrkramps> i know … no supporter needs information to do the job
[18:47] <asantos3> I was about to tell it but I didn't finished writing the 'problem'
[18:48] <mrkramps> asantos3, fglrx or radeon?
[18:49] <asantos3> fglrx is bugged or some stuff in my GPU, so the other
[18:49] <mrkramps> how much time has passed since you played cs:go last time w/o fps drops?
[18:49] <asantos3> Two days ago, I can't remember
[18:50] <asantos3> that's why I asked if anyone noticed some drop fps with an update or something
[18:50] <asantos3> but here's the weird stuff
[18:50] <asantos3> I tested with Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and it ran normal
[18:51] <mrkramps> asantos3, both systems up-to-date with updated?
[18:51] <mrkramps> *updates
[18:51] <asantos3> So I reinstalled Xubuntu 15.04, mostly because it had loads of junk in it and now i'm here :/
[18:51] <asantos3> yup
[18:51] <mrkramps> asantos3, you diabled composite extension for xfwm4?
[18:52] <asantos3> Like Window Manager Tweaks > Enable display compositing?
[18:52] <mrkramps> well, disable not enable … but yes
[18:53] <asantos3> I did that and tested it but I got the same
[18:56] <asantos3> Do you think I should test it with another WM?
[18:56] <ObrienDave> VM?
[18:56] <asantos3> Window Manager
[18:57] <ObrienDave> oh
[18:57] <ObrienDave> *hides*
[18:58] <mrkramps> asantos3, cs:go native or wine?
[18:58] <asantos3> native
[19:00] <mrkramps> asantos3, xubuntu 15.04 and ubuntu mate 15.04 dualboot on the same system?
[19:01] <asantos3> Nope, I dualboot with a linux distro and windows
[19:01] <mrkramps> asantos3, so how did you test ubuntu mate?
[19:02] <asantos3> I replaced Xubuntu with Ubuntu Mate and then replaced it Xubuntu
[19:03] <mrkramps> and you definitely upgraded ubuntu mate?
[19:04] <asantos3> I think so yes :/
[19:04] <mrkramps> question is because there should have been quite some kernel upgrades lately
[19:05] <mrkramps> maybe test an older kernel
[19:06] <asantos3> perhaps that's it, let me test it
[19:17] <asantos3> mrkramps, do I need to do that like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds or is there some third-party GUI like in manjaro where I can do that?
[19:17] <mrkramps> asantos3, i did not say try a newer kernel
[19:18] <mrkramps> you may install older kernel-versions from package manager at any time
[19:18] <asantos3> oh, I didn't knew that :/
[20:15] <asantos3> hi again
[20:15] <Vazity> Hello. I'm going to install xubuntu. But i need some help.
[20:16] <asantos3> So I tried with different kernels and it's the same deal, tried with 3.19.7 and 3.18.19
[20:16] <Vazity> I'm currently using Intel HD Graphic drivers, will this be installed automaticly? Last time i installed ubuntu it got pretty fucked up, it wasn't hd quality.
[20:17] <Vazity> Someone?
[20:18] <asantos3> Usually the drivers are installed automatically
[20:19] <Vazity> Alright, great.
[20:19] <Vazity> Thanks for letting me know. I hate windows. I'm going to do dual boot first.
[20:19] <asantos3> But then you can go to Software & Updates > Additional Drivers
[20:19] <mrkramps> asantos3, there are no additional drivers for intel gpus
[20:19] <Vazity> Great, looks like a good community as well.
[20:19] <Vazity> Thanks for helping me out.
[20:20] <asantos3> mrkramps, I know, I was explaning were he could see other drivers
[20:21] <asantos3> mrkramps, dunno if I did good but followed this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Installing_upstream_kernels
[20:21] <asantos3> and it was the same
[20:23] <asantos3> I could try Ubuntu Mate 15.04 and Xubuntu 14.04 if that helps
[20:24] <mrkramps> asantos3, the fps drops you get are a sudden regression which is hard to trace
[20:24] <mrkramps> i haven't found an according bug report yet
[20:28] <asantos3> Well, I will keep trying stuff then
[20:29] <pencilandpaper> i was wondering what package is installed so that xubuntu is able to detect a android phone?
[20:29] <pencilandpaper> or is it a driver that is in the kernel?
[20:30] <asantos3> bluetooth?
[20:30] <mrkramps> pencilandpaper, wether it is recognized as mass storage device or probalby via mtp
[20:31] <pencilandpaper> i dont think that is it asantos3 .
[20:31] <pencilandpaper> right well i installed mtp and am using mtp-detect and its seeing the phone kinda..but no icon is showing up so that i can open the phone mrkramps .
[20:31] <asantos3> I was asking if you connected via cable or...
[20:32] <mrkramps> pencilandpaper, mtpfs?
[20:32] <pencilandpaper> yes, via cable asantos3 ..and xubuntu detected it and showed a icon for it and everything.
[20:32] <pencilandpaper> i am now on another distro and trying to get the same results.
[20:32] <pencilandpaper> i have that installed as well mrkramps .
[20:33] <mrkramps> pencilandpaper, is gvfs-bin, gvfs-fuse and gvfs-backends installed?
[20:33] <Vazity> if i get this graphic driver working, ill delete windows
[20:33] <Vazity> so i hope it work
[20:34] <asantos3> Vazity, what problem do you have with the driver?
[20:34] <mrkramps> Vazity, except for the most current intel hd chipsets there should be not driver issue
[20:34] <mrkramps> well, and for everything before intel hd 2000
[20:34] <asantos3> Oh, just remembered something, while installing if you check that box that says "Install updates" doesn't that pull all the updates?
[20:35] <pencilandpaper> ok nice mrkramps ..i got it working. thank you so much man..it was mtpfs. :)
[20:35] <Vazity> last time i installed archbox i got shitty quality
[20:35] <mrkramps> you're welcome, glad i could help!
[20:35] <Vazity> ill check what driver i got, mrkramps
[20:35] <Vazity> hang on
[20:36] <Vazity> screen resolution and everything got fucked up
[20:37] <Vazity> Intel(R) HD Graphics Family, mrkramps
[20:38] <mrkramps> Vazity, is it a sandy bridge chipset?
[20:38] <Vazity> i dont know, how do i check that? mrkramps
[20:38] <asantos3> Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate are one of the few distros that install the proprietary drivers for the wifi, the open source are fucked so there's that
[20:39] <mrkramps> asantos3, depends on you chipset
[20:39] <asantos3> mrkrapms, if I do this http://pad1.whstatic.com/images/thumb/d/d8/Install-Ubuntu-Linux-Step-5Bullet1.jpg/900px-Install-Ubuntu-Linux-Step-5Bullet1.jpg doesn't that pull all the updates? If so I installed them while installing Ubuntu Mate
[20:40] <mrkramps> asantos3, iirc no
[20:40] <mrkramps> or rather depends
[20:40] <Vazity> but mrkramps, will it work
[20:40] <mrkramps> i remember it only working for ethernet connections
[20:41] <asantos3> I'm on a ethernet connection
[20:41] <Vazity> do i need ethernet connection when i install it?
[20:41] <mrkramps> Vazity, yes there should be no driver issue from what i can tell. probably it will require some manual configuration when chipset is older than sandy bridge
[20:42] <Vazity> is my older mrkramps
[20:42] <mrkramps> Vazity, no internet connection required
[20:42] <Vazity> ok good
[20:43] <mrkramps> Vazity, we're currently talking about pulling automatic updates at installtion … that's what you will need a connection for. but it can be done later of course
[20:43] <Vazity> oh ok
[20:43] <mrkramps> Vazity, can you tell me your cpu model?
[20:44] <Vazity> http://gyazo.com/c18ab89896a0a36c96b2a156eb781b87
[20:44] <Vazity> there you go, mrkramps
[20:46] <mrkramps> Vazity, it's sandy bridge and the default acceleration method of the intel driver will work
[20:46] <Vazity> ok, but when i used archbox the screen resolution and shit got fucked up
[20:46] <Vazity> bad quality as well
[20:47] <asantos3> archbox? like in virtualbox?
[20:47] <Vazity> no dual boot windows
[20:47] <Vazity> im going to test xubuntu now first in dual boot
[20:47] <mrkramps> i do not know archbox, their kernel, mesa, xserver or whatever package version … so it might be just a temporary problem affecting their packages
[20:47] <Vazity> if i get this screen and stuff working
[20:47] <Vazity> ill remove windows
[20:48] <Vazity> and install xubuntu for full
[20:49] <knome> Vazity, please remember this is a family-friendly channel and steer your language considering that
[20:49] <Vazity> ok im sorry knome
[20:51] <Vazity> http://askubuntu.com/questions/166224/how-do-i-install-the-intel-graphics-driver-in-my-system do i need to do this, mrkramps?
[20:52] <mrkramps> Vazity, this Q/A is from 2012 and about 12.04
[20:52] <Vazity> ok
[20:54] <Vazity> mrkramps, can i see what ur desktop look like?
[20:55] <mrkramps> pretty much default
[20:56] <Vazity> aight
[20:56] <mrkramps> just replaced the elemntary-xfce icon theme with faenza
[20:56] <Vazity> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1317877292.jpg
[20:56] <Vazity> it is possible to make it like that, right?
[20:58] <mrkramps> looks like faenza icons, custom background, transparent terminal with custom prompt, conky system monitor and some panel at the bottom i cannot identify
[20:59] <Vazity> kk nice
[21:01] <Vazity> i have another issue, my touchpad dont work. will my usb mouse work when i install
[21:05] <asantos3> Vazity, what's the brand and model?
[21:05] <Vazity> wireless optical mouse
[21:06] <Vazity> a4tech
[21:06] <Vazity> model g7-750
[21:09] <Vazity> ?
[21:09] <asantos3> dunno, it's an obscure brand, you could always try without installing
[21:10] <Vazity> ok
[21:10] <Vazity> but it will work when it is installed right
[21:11] <asantos3> probably
[21:11] <asantos3> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[21:11] <Vazity> ok
[21:11] <asantos3> you will get this https://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/latest/u/img/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install/image-tryubuntubeforeyouinstall-1.jpg
[21:12] <asantos3> then you can choose 'try ubuntu' and you can check it
[21:12] <Vazity> ill go ahead and install it soon now
[21:12] <Vazity> i will let u know !
[21:12] <asantos3> try before
[21:12] <Vazity> xubuntu here i come
[21:12] <asantos3> btw
[21:13] <asantos3> are you aware of the UEFI problems?
[21:13] <Vazity> no
[21:13] <Vazity> i will disable it
[21:13] <Vazity> uefi and that other thing
[21:13] <Vazity> so i can get grub working
[21:14] <mrkramps> grub can handle UEFI
[21:14] <asantos3> yes but some but there's some problems with it
[21:14] <mrkramps> depends
[21:14] <Vazity> ye but i did get grub working last time
[21:14] <Vazity> so u say i cant use xubuntu?
[21:14] <asantos3> you can
[21:15] <mrkramps> Vazity, depending on your windows version you may be reliant on efi boot
[21:15] <Vazity> ??
[21:15] <Vazity> windows 8.1
[21:16] <mrkramps> will require efi afaik
[21:16] <Vazity> what is that
[21:16] <knome> that is, if you will want to keep windows in the side
[21:17] <mrkramps> and if you have win installed and then install xubuntu in legacy boot mode,  you cannot boot windows anymore
[21:18] <mrkramps> Vazity, you should urgently read about EFI Boot Management
[21:18] <Vazity> well i have done dual boot before
[21:19] <Vazity> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ui8zgu2kc
[21:20] <Vazity> ok now im unsure if i can do it..
[21:20] <Vazity> i though i could just remove uefi from bios
[21:20] <Vazity> and that other thing
[21:23] <asantos3> It's really easy man
[21:24] <Vazity> how
[21:24] <Vazity> grub will install automaticaly right
[21:24] <Vazity> and if i go in bios and remove uefi all good right?
[21:24] <Vazity> i would like to start my process now
[21:25] <asantos3> i'm trying to think of a simple way to say it
[21:25] <Vazity> will the graphic thing work when i do click test xubuntu
[21:25] <Vazity> if so im not going to install it on dual boot
[21:25] <Vazity> if it works on that ill just replace windows
[21:25] <Vazity> with xubuntu
[21:26] <asantos3> yes it will, you can try it
[21:26] <Vazity> I will just remove uefi and legacy
[21:26] <Vazity> in bios?
[21:26] <Vazity> deactivate it
[21:26] <Vazity> or what do i need to deactivate in bios
[21:26] <Vazity> plz tell me
[21:26] <knome> Vazity, you really should read about it yourself
[21:27] <Vazity> i know, knome
[21:27] <knome> Vazity, we've told you what you need to do; either you haven't listened or understood
[21:27] <Vazity> omg you are so mad, knome
[21:27] <asantos3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:27] <knome> Vazity, it isn't a good starting point to go ahead and do something you don't understnad
[21:27] <Vazity> im wondering what i need to deactiave in bios
[21:27] <Vazity> i understand him, knome
[21:28] <knome> Vazity, i'm not mad; i don't want you to make your system unusable
[21:28] <Vazity> its cool i do it all the time
[21:28] <asantos3> knome is right, you might f**k all up
[21:28] <knome> asantos3, please, this is still a family-friendly channel
[21:29] <knome> Vazity, if it's cool and you do it all the time, what do you need us telling what you need to enable or disable in bios?
[21:29] <Vazity> i dont care, knome
[21:29] <asantos3> I put the *** things :/
[21:29] <knome> asantos3, that doesn't help really, you know it.
[21:29] <Vazity> you are fucking moron
[21:29] <Vazity> let him help me
[21:29] <asantos3> c'mon man :V
[21:30] <sirnaysayer> Jesus freenode sucks
[21:30] <knome> sirnaysayer, excuse me?
[21:31] <vazity> omg rude
[21:31] <sirnaysayer> Maybe just these main channels suck
[21:31] <knome> vazity, do you understand what i said - this is a family-friendly channel
[21:31] <vazity> suck
[21:31] <knome> vazity, you are free to ask for help as long as you follow the channel guidelines
[21:32] <vazity> ok knome tell me, what do i deactivate in bios
[21:32] <knome> vazity, it's not that black and white.
[21:32] <knome> you've been told before
[21:32] <knome> have you read about UEFI booting?
[21:32] <vazity> is it  secure boot and uefi?
[21:32] <vazity> yes
[21:32] <sirnaysayer> Vanity: the reason you should try looking up things yourself is so you don't have to deal with self righteous people in IRC.
[21:32] <knome> do you understand what disabling (U)EFI in bios means for your windows installation?
[21:33] <vazity> i can just activate it again later
[21:33] <vazity> lol
[21:34] <vazity> imma just test it out
[21:34] <vazity> cya
[22:08] <vazity> currently installing it, graphic driver worked great
[22:09] <vazity> hope grub will show up lol
[22:09] <vazity> i removed windows
[22:19] <vazity> Guys, i did it!!!! Wohoo, I'm so proud.
[22:44] <vazity> How do i install skype?
[22:51] <Unit193> !info skype-bin partner
[23:59] <zumper> I need help. Someone here?
[23:59] <knome> ask your question and find out
[23:59] <zumper> i deleted the xfce4-indicator-plugin i think