| doko | Noskcaj, the problem is that this will force the old gnome mm 2.4 stack to c++11 as well | 00:41 |
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| doko | and afaics there are no updates | 00:42 |
| doko | please ask robert_ancell about it | 00:42 |
| sarnold | doko: does that mean there's some set of packages that we shouldn't ever rebuild? | 00:42 |
| doko | ? | 00:42 |
| sarnold | doko: is the problem with Noskcaj's suggestion updating the old gnome mm stack, or is it that they've included some c++11 patches? | 00:43 |
| doko | see the packages I updated to build with c++11. feel free to investigate these, and that any depending packages can be built in c++11 mode. even the unmaintained ones | 00:45 |
| doko | libxml++2.6, libffado, I think there were others too | 00:45 |
| robert_ancell | doko, Noskcaj, I'm removing the C++ patches now that I've reverted the glibmm change | 01:32 |
| robert_ancell | doko, or is it desirable to have things building with C++11? | 01:33 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:05 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:54 |
| hikiko | hi didrocks | 06:03 |
| didrocks | hey hikiko, how are you? | 06:04 |
| hikiko | good :) you? | 06:06 |
| didrocks | I'm great, thanks! | 06:07 |
| ricotz | Laney, hi, regarding https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/0ad/0.0.18-1build2 -- http://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/16673/ -- https://paste.debian.net/plain/289634 | 07:01 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:50 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 07:50 |
| * TheMuso waves to Europe. :) | 07:50 | |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:52 |
| seb128 | re didrocks | 07:52 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:52 |
| willcooke | evening TheMuso | 07:52 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, TheMuso | 07:53 |
| seb128 | that gcc transition keeps people and builders busy it seems :-) | 07:58 |
| willcooke | :) | 07:58 |
| Laney | totally didn't come on just to check on a build failure | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:03 |
| hikiko | hello willcooke Laney seb128 etc :)p | 08:03 |
| Laney | good, I'm actually on vac today ;-) | 08:03 |
| willcooke | hey hikiko Laney | 08:03 |
| Laney | hey hey | 08:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, oh, you are? | 08:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, enjoy! | 08:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, any fancy plans? | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko | 08:04 |
| Laney | seb128: friend's wedding | 08:05 |
| Laney | got the suit cleaned and everything | 08:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, have fun! | 08:05 |
| Laney | should be nice | 08:06 |
| Laney | apparently there's a "surprise" later on | 08:07 |
| Laney | so I am excited to know what that turns out to be | 08:07 |
| didrocks | enjoy Laney :) | 08:10 |
| * didrocks goes for running NOW, later, it's going to be 39°C | 08:10 | |
| didrocks | I'm not that crazy to run at that temperature :p | 08:10 |
| willcooke | :/ | 08:11 |
| seb128 | didrocks, enjoy! | 08:12 |
| seb128 | haskell rebuilds are ridiculous, I wonder how many days cjwatson is spending every cycle on those | 08:15 |
| Laney | I bet he's scripted it | 08:16 |
| darkxst | hey all | 08:20 |
| Laney | got to go, does anyone want to review/upload https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/libcolumbus/g++5/+merge/267159 ? | 08:21 |
| Laney | you get to try the new train system! | 08:21 |
| Laney | ricotz: sorry didn't get to look, maybe put it on http://pad.ubuntu.com/gcc-5-transition | 08:23 |
| Laney | ttyl! | 08:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, libcolumbus I can do | 08:25 |
| willcooke | g'night TheMuso | 08:41 |
| willcooke | oh. also... Howdy Trevinho, if you're back from hols | 08:42 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey | 08:47 |
| seb128 | had good holidays? ;-) | 08:47 |
| * willcooke thinks he's asleep still | 08:49 | |
| willcooke | he = Trevinho | 08:49 |
| willcooke | :D | 08:49 |
| hikiko | haha I think he is still on holidays :) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, libcolumbus isn't happy because the vcs/your merge doesn't include the changelog entries from the direct archive uploads | 08:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you include those? | 08:57 |
| seb128 | darkxst, hum, you upload bluez to the transition ppa today? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | darkxst, what did you change compared to the version that was there? | 09:03 |
| seb128 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/213725089/bluez_5.23-1ubuntu1~mtrudel1_5.23-2ubuntu1~ppa1.diff.gz | 09:03 |
| seb128 | k, little it seems ;-) | 09:03 |
| darkxst | seb128, just merged the last debian version | 09:03 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:03 |
| darkxst | and merged gnome-bluetooth | 09:03 |
| seb128 | great | 09:04 |
| seb128 | thanks for working on those | 09:04 |
| darkxst | I'll see if Noskcaj can fill the gaps with the other updates | 09:04 |
| darkxst | seb128, gnome-user-share has drop its prefs UI in favour of g-c-c sharing panel | 09:04 |
| darkxst | can you take a look at that sharing panel and see if the UI is ok for you guys | 09:05 |
| darkxst | could probably just merge that (and the sharing plugin in g-s-d) into the u- variants | 09:05 |
| seb128 | darkxst, is there any other update needed before landing bluez5? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | like gnome-user-share? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | or can that come later? | 09:07 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, What specifics do you want me to do? There's a few r-deps that probably should be RMed | 09:07 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, user-share is after AFAIK | 09:07 |
| seb128 | sharing is https://blogs.gnome.org/thos/files/2013/04/Sharing-Settings.png | 09:08 |
| seb128 | right? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | that's not bluetooth only and probably not ok for us | 09:08 |
| darkxst | seb128, yes, personal-file-sharing is gnome-user-share also | 09:09 |
| darkxst | oddly I have never seen the remote access one | 09:10 |
| Laney | seb128: they're all no-change rebuilds so I would get the train to ignore them | 09:12 |
| Laney | otherwise can do later | 09:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, can it do that? | 09:12 |
| Laney | some force option | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I don't see any on https://ci-train.ubuntu.com//job/ubuntu-landing-015-1-build/build that seems to fit | 09:13 |
| seb128 | force_rebuild? | 09:13 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, look over and update the remaining rdeps as need | 09:14 |
| seb128 | right, that seems to fit indeed | 09:14 |
| Laney | think so, double check with sil2100 maybe | 09:14 |
| Laney | right, I know what bus ticket to get | 09:14 |
| Laney | SUIT TIME! BYE! | 09:14 |
| didrocks | see you Laney :) | 09:14 |
| * didrocks couldn't go running, even staying inside is too hot | 09:14 | |
| seb128 | Laney, have fun! | 09:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks, go swimming ;-) | 09:15 |
| darkxst | seb128, reverting the user-share UI should work also, so long as there are no changes to the settings | 09:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I should… | 09:16 |
| seb128 | darkxst, why do we need to update gnome-user-share? | 09:16 |
| darkxst | seb128, bluez5 | 09:17 |
| seb128 | darkxst, that was not in the ppa, was it overlooked previous cycle? | 09:17 |
| seb128 | not on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-v-bluez5 either | 09:17 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, It's been held back since 3.8 because if was waiting on gnome-bluetooth and bluez5 | 09:18 |
| seb128 | k, I guess I'm not asking clearly | 09:18 |
| seb128 | what happens if we land bluez5 and don't touch gnome-user-share? | 09:19 |
| seb128 | does something stop working? | 09:20 |
| darkxst | seb128, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-share/commit/?id=8ac9a4d917bd55f869bba86420ecc5938693905a | 09:22 |
| darkxst | but I don't know the reverse question, i.e. will it still work without modification | 09:22 |
| darkxst | and actually user-share seems to be dying anyway, bluetooth stuff has moved into gnome-bluetooth for 3.17 | 09:24 |
| darkxst | all that seems to be left there is the webdav shares | 09:25 |
| seb128 | k | 09:25 |
| seb128 | anyway, the commit you linked apply mostly fine to our g-u-s version | 09:25 |
| seb128 | so we can deal with the update question later | 09:26 |
| darkxst | seb128, ok | 09:27 |
| Noskcaj | Are we safe to RM bluez-btsco and grml-btnet? dead upstream, ubuntu only, need porting, not seeded, no r-deps | 09:27 |
| * Trevinho is back (since some hours, actually, but under the pile of unread emails... | 09:30 | |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, didn't you just answer your own question? though generally they can just get demoted to -proposed | 09:32 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, I have no powers, and wanted to check | 09:32 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, obscure packages in universe, that haven't seen upstream releases in close to 10 years, you don't need powers for that, you just ask for them to be dealt with | 09:35 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 09:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the livecdroot/ubuntu-touch packages in the transition ppa were for desktop-next/snappy not bluetooth right? | 09:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, those 2 packages were uploaded there for the snappyfication :) | 09:47 |
| seb128 | k, thanks | 09:47 |
| Noskcaj | looks like altos will need an unrelated build failure to be fixed for bluez migration to happen | 09:47 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, maybe its caught up in the gcc5 transition? | 09:57 |
| Noskcaj | Might be, i'm not going to have the time to chase up the cause for a while though. I'm busy with irl stuff till next weekend, so i'll just keep going throw the r-deps looking for where we have issues | 09:59 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, thats fine, just add comments to the blueprint, about what you find then | 10:02 |
| willcooke | hrm - can someone with a virgin 15.10 install try ctrl-alt-t for me? | 10:41 |
| willcooke | it's not working on my test machine | 10:41 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: mh, I've not that virgin, however, in terms of key grabbing that's the same of doing Alt+F in terminal (or any other gtk app), so if that's not working either it'compiz, otherwise it's unity-settings-daemon | 10:47 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: hey, btw :) | 10:47 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, hey!! Welcome back. Good hols? | 10:48 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: yep, thanks... :) | 10:48 |
| willcooke | so, in the terminal, alt is showing the menu | 10:48 |
| willcooke | but alt-f isnt opening the file menu | 10:48 |
| Trevinho | mh, so... It might be both that Alt+F isn't grabbed or, that unity calls the proper method, but something changed... | 10:53 |
| willcooke | alt-tab works, alt-f4 works etc | 10:54 |
| willcooke | super opens the dash | 10:55 |
| willcooke | I'll open a bug... | 10:56 |
| Trevinho | well, it's a different way to handle keys in that scenario, since unity registers a org.gnome.Shell dbus interface for registering and activating accelerators | 10:56 |
| darkxst | Trevinho, and that is just wrong, Unity should not be stealing shell interfaces! | 11:01 |
| Trevinho | darkxst: since unity is the only shell in that scenario it's not wrong, we're just implementing a shell API that gnome apps need | 11:03 |
| darkxst | Trevinho, but it confuses the gnome code, and we have had to work around that numerous times | 11:04 |
| darkxst | now that the keygrabbers are split out into mutter and u-s-d, is it really required to steal it? | 11:04 |
| darkxst | gnome-screensaver may still use it, but is ubuntu even still using that? | 11:05 |
| willcooke | I've logged the bug against Unity, is that the right place? | 11:25 |
| darkxst | willcooke, keygrabber is in u-s-d as far as I remember, but unity steals the dbus interface | 11:28 |
| willcooke | thx, I've added u-s-d as an also-affects | 11:30 |
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| pitti | seb128: do you happen to know how to call gst-install (from sessioninstaller) with something meaningful? | 13:20 |
| pitti | I naïvely tried "./gst-install audio/mpeg", but that's not searching/finding anything | 13:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, gst-install "gstreamer|0.10|totem|Advanced Streaming Format (ASF) demuxer|decoder-video/x-ms-asf" | 13:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, but your command works for me | 13:23 |
| seb128 | I get a dialog with a bouncing bar | 13:23 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, but it doesn't actually list any results | 13:23 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, now the bouncing bar shows a name and I get a result; merci ! | 13:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, yw! | 13:24 |
| pitti | seb128: (want to port sessioninstaller to py3 on Sunday, preparing :) ) | 13:24 |
| seb128 | what did you change? | 13:24 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 13:24 |
| * didrocks goes back to appart, bbiab | 14:43 | |
| Sweet5hark | *grumble* gcc5 *grumble* | 15:12 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark: +1 | 15:13 |
| pitti | this is utter sheer madness | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | lets just roll back | 15:15 |
| pitti | for every transition you start you get at least three FTBFS, two .symbols changes, and two more transitions | 15:17 |
| * Sweet5hark 's vacation will start in 2 days. If I havent fixed LibreOffice by then, .... | 15:28 | |
| Sweet5hark | ... I will leave it to you guys. trololo&YOLO | 15:29 |
| Sweet5hark | libreoffice 4.4 building on gcc5 *fingerscrossed* | 16:09 |
| Sweet5hark | (next up: libreofice 5.0, but I think I will only do that in the ppa and bump to archive after my vacation) | 16:10 |
| Sweet5hark | ^^ seb128 | 16:10 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:4.4.4~rc3-0ubuntu2 was build on gcc5 no? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, did you email the DMB btw? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | or better to do that after vac? | 16:11 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: I assume that build was on gcc5 -- but lots of deps (e.g. cmis, cppunit, etc.) were still old builds. as they are rebuild against gcc5 they again cause LibreOffice to ftbfs .... | 16:15 |
| seb128 | k | 16:15 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, a bit weird though | 16:16 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: so I assume while that build was gcc5, libreoffice is now ftbfs in proposed | 16:16 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcmis/0.5.0-2ubuntu2 | 16:16 |
| seb128 | that we renamed a day before the libreoffice upload | 16:16 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cppunit/1.13.2-2.1 | 16:16 |
| seb128 | was also before | 16:16 |
| seb128 | k | 16:16 |
| seb128 | well if you have a fixed version feel free to ping me for sponsoring ;-) | 16:17 |
| Sweet5hark | but not sure, I havent looked at that build, was just nagged by doko about libreoffice being ftbfs ... | 16:17 |
| seb128 | ok, so there is probably an issue | 16:17 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: yeah, as written above: lets just fix the ftbfs on 4.4 (and I'll use internal copies there liberally as we will bump libreoffice to 5.0 soonish then anyway). | 16:18 |
| seb128 | k | 16:19 |
| Sweet5hark | i will try to get libreoffice 5.0 against gcc 5.0 all nice in the ppa, but bumping that to the archive on the last day before vacation would be madness. | 16:20 |
| seb128 | yeah | 16:23 |
| Sweet5hark | and DMB -- yeah, lets punt that for later too, sorry. | 16:24 |
| seb128 | nw | 16:25 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, hi, I am sorry, but you are quite irritating :\ | 16:56 |
| ricotz | I pointed you already to both, 4.4.5 and 5.0.0, builds against gcc5 | 16:58 |
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