[16:47] <anon212244567> Just wondering, are there any rules as to age when you are contributing to Ubuntu? I am a teen and I would like to do some QA test cases, but I don't know if I could...
[16:47] <anon212244567> Can anyone confirm?
[16:48] <anon212244567> balloons
[16:57] <balloons> There are no rules on age specific to Ubuntu
[17:00] <svij> teens these days are impatient…
[17:01]  * svij feels old now :)
[17:19] <flocculant> now?
[17:19] <flocculant> I've felt old (physically) for years :)
[17:22] <svij> I'm actually not that old :D
[17:25] <flocculant> neither am I (mentally) ...
[18:06] <balloons> Hello :)
[18:07] <balloons> So i realize now i didn't remind folks about the meeting
[18:08] <svij> yup
[18:12] <balloons> So today we can basically answer all the questions we had i think.
[18:13] <balloons> Did DanChapman put together the readme i wonder?
[18:13] <balloons> I guess i shouldn't start talking before it's time :)
[18:14] <DanChapman> balloons: mostly complete now :-) I'll push it to lp this evening
[19:02] <svij> balloons: now you can talk ;)
[19:03] <dkessel> hey there. nearly forgot this
[19:07] <svij> I think we should wait for balloons ?
[19:14] <balloons> Hey :)
[19:14] <svij> oh there he is :)
[19:14] <balloons> OK so we just need to go through our actions from last time and see where we are at
[19:15] <balloons> svij care to relay your findings to start?
[19:15] <svij> sure
[19:15] <balloons> Hey dkessel :)
[19:16] <svij> so, we can run the iso tests on a ec2 instance, which we could fire up for a new tests, shouldn't be too expensive as I see for now, but the tests doesn't run for todays/yesterdays wily image because of some weird ssl/bzr error
[19:17] <flocculant> well - depending on what you tried it with - at least one image didn't build
[19:17] <flocculant> and there is a dead server apparently
[19:17] <svij> dead server?
[19:17] <flocculant> hang on - just getting info
[19:17] <flocculant> ssh: connect to host goldenapple.canonical.com port 22: Connection timed out
[19:17] <flocculant> and
 flocculant: goldenapple appears to be dead so if you get that one it times out IS is informed so hopefully this will go away soonish
[19:18] <svij> so we can run the tests there?
[19:18] <svij> s/can/could/
[19:19] <flocculant> that said - what weird ssl/bzr issue are you talking about :)
[19:19] <svij> huh, I'm confused
[19:20] <balloons> Me too
[19:20] <balloons> Does it have to be ec2. Can it be digital ocean
[19:20] <svij> didn't check digitalocean yet
[19:21] <balloons> I think flocculant was trying to say the images are bad
[19:21] <flocculant> yea
[19:21] <svij> ah
[19:21] <svij> yea, the vivid images were better, but they still hang somewhere, I didn't check further details though
[19:24] <svij> any more questions regarding running the tests in the cloud?
[19:24] <flocculant> I thought someone had looked at digitalocean
[19:25] <balloons> If we're confident then we can let everyone know we won't need the hardware
[19:25] <svij> I could check that quickly if it fails at the beginning…
[19:25] <svij> oh wait, my digitalocean instance is too small (ram)
[19:25] <svij> anyway, does it really matter if it's ec2 or digital ocean?
[19:25] <svij> balloons: yep
[19:26] <balloons> It doesn't matter really. DO is cheaper is all
[19:27] <svij> hm, not 100% true… do is 40$/mo for a 4GB instance (which we need) amazon is cheaper in this case
[19:28] <balloons> The only other thing we needed to settle was the doc from DanChapman
[19:28] <balloons> For autopilot. And of course to fix the tests
[19:28] <balloons> svij, interesting
[19:29] <DanChapman> nearly done :-) just finishing it off atm and will get it pushed up to lp this evening.
[19:29] <svij> aws with 4gb (but paid for a year) is 26$/mo
[19:29] <balloons> So 2 instances on ec2 or just one svij? 1 always running the other on demand to test?
[19:30] <svij> I think two instances are cheaper… one smaller one for jenkins master and one on demand
[19:30] <balloons> K
[19:32] <balloons> So we should go ahead and setup things on ec2. Probably worth starting off monthly before buying a year at once
[19:33] <balloons> And with the readme complete, we can solicit for help in the tests
[19:33] <balloons> Is there anything else?
[19:33] <DanChapman> hmmm looking at yesterdays vivid run. irqbalance crashed :-/. Does ec2 use xen?
[19:34] <balloons> My brain is shot atm from planning for travel
[19:34] <dkessel> i guess i should un-assign me from the blocking bug. i really don't have time to fix it soon. and time is running....
[19:34] <svij> DanChapman: yes
[19:34] <dkessel> so we need someone else to have a look
[19:35] <svij> is xen a problem?
[19:38] <DanChapman> xen's not a problem, i've just heard about issues with irqbalance in VM's. IIRC fedora vms require it turned off. Let me see if I can find mmore info
[19:38] <svij> oh
[19:40] <DanChapman> svij was it a single core instance?
[19:40] <svij> DanChapman: nope
[19:40] <svij> dual core
[19:44] <svij> DanChapman: wait, do you mean my ec2 instance or the vm inside the ec2 instance, which bootet the iso?
[19:46] <DanChapman> the vm that booted the iso. I can't remember what the runner set's it up with.
[19:47] <svij> yes, that was dual core
[19:49] <DanChapman> ok thanks. I'm just concerned as the test didn't actually run according to that log file. It looks like it crashed pretty quickly after ubiquity launched
[19:51] <svij> that's also what I was seeing (with my less knowledge about autopilot)
[19:53] <DanChapman> so the "Autopilot GTK interface loaded. Wire protocol version is 1.4" appears when the launcher "run_ubiquity" is triggered, the test will wait for ubiquity to come up before the test starts and you should see "I: Running autopilot run ubiquity_autopilot_*"
[19:54] <DanChapman> so it's either a problem with the runner/test-environment or an issue with running in the cloud
[19:55] <svij> hhmm…
[19:55] <svij> I'll do some more investigations on the weekend about this issue
[19:55] <svij> someone needs to fix the tests anyway, beside of my problems ;)
[19:59] <DanChapman> I'll get them running again. Seems a couple of large bugs have been dropped off my backlog for OTA-6 so I will squeeze this in :-)
[19:59] <balloons> Hehe nice
[20:00] <balloons> Brb
[20:00] <svij> nice!
[20:02] <dkessel> done. bug 1479064 is unassigned now.
[20:09] <DanChapman> ok cool assigned to me. I should have them running again by next meeting. Are we back to friday next week? or you still away then balloons?
[20:15] <balloons> Yes I'm away again
[20:16] <balloons> Um hmm
[20:16] <balloons> Meet without me perhaps?
[20:23] <svij> Should be fine for me
[20:24] <svij> I'm going to bed now... Next week Friday sane time is fine for me
[20:25] <knome> sane times are ok, insane times, nope
[20:25] <knome> (good evening!)
[20:25] <balloons> K. Sounds good
[20:25] <balloons> Thanks everyone!
[20:25] <balloons> Hey knome
[20:25] <balloons> Work that I'm off as well
[20:26] <balloons> *with
[20:26] <knome> heh
[20:26] <knome> have fun