[03:06] http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/zip/5157295800.html [03:06] greg-g: ^ [10:15] Oooh, free book from packt for volunteering at PyOhio [13:03] Morning [13:04] brousch: Nice! Which one did you pick? [13:09] Nothing yet [13:15] lol @ my data usage: 0.25 of unlimited [13:24] jrwren: Overall or for the month, or in the last 5 minutes? :) [13:25] Need a time scale [13:25] cmaloney: did you get your free o'reilly ebook? [13:26] haha, month. [13:26] all I have to do is change contract with ATT and I get personal hotspod. [13:26] I've been on the grandfathered unlimited data plan for like 4yrs, but I rarely use more than 300MB :) [13:26] brousch: I did, and I didn't read it carefully. [13:26] but, If I'm going to switch plans, I might as well get a free phone while I do it. [13:26] Thought it was Python and HDFS, but it's Python and HDF5 [13:27] jrwren: No doubt. [13:27] HDF5? [13:27] hahah, cmaloney that is a great confusion. [13:27] HDFS v. HDF5 oh man, in my font its pretty bad to distinguish [13:28] brousch: It's a hierarchical data format for science. [13:28] So not all bad [13:28] but not the hadoopy goodness I thought I was getting [13:28] Mea culpa for not reading closer. [13:38] I have a couple of old Flask projects i need to revisit. I think I'll get a Flask book [13:42] jrwren, was there still lunch today? [13:54] kdub: cscheib canceled on us. [13:55] kdub: Want to still meet? we could do it closer to canton. [13:55] If only there were something awesome half way between us, but I think it is all fields and new subdivisions [13:55] jrwren, probably best to reschedule, was trying to dance around a close-to-lunchtime dentist appt [13:56] are you on the west side of the city? [13:56] kdub: nope. I'm on north easy side, so canton center is due east of me. [13:56] kdub: http://a.placebetween.us/?search=Coffee&address1=2226%20Placid%20Way%2C%20Ann%20Arbor%2C%20MI&address2=Canton%2C%20MI [13:58] i'm on the border of canton/superior, so the eastern half of the city is easy to get to [13:59] oh, we are actually pretty close for a drive since there is rarely traffic on Plymouth and Ford [14:02] I <3 it when my boss fixes something I was working on and forgets to let me know [14:03] I think he worked on it last night, fixed it, and I just now figured out that he fixed it because I went to the original server to look at the config to see if I could reset to some sane baseline [14:31] Hm, so I hadn't really looked at Flask in 2 years. It now has skeletons as complicated as Django [14:36] thats the way these things go. django and rails didn't set out to become bloated messes, it just happened that way organically over time [14:36] eventually something will come along and topple flask as the minimalist python web framework [14:36] also good morning :) [14:38] Until someone wants to incorporate SQLAlchemy with flask++ [14:55] there are smaller ones: bottle [14:55] flask-sqlalchemy has been around as long as flask [14:56] Actually Flask itself is not bloated, it's just that the "best practice" builds a project base from a bunch of small external projects to end up like django [15:07] cmaloney: "This posting has been deleted by its author." [15:08] morning everyone [15:11] greg-g: Drat. likely taken [15:12] could've been your very own non-working Atari 800 [15:12] hah [15:35] brousch: flask blueprints? [15:36] mrgoodcat: you really think django is a bloated mess? [15:36] brousch: that isn't a best practice, that is someone else's practice that they claim is best. Claims are a lie. [15:42] i don't particularly think django is a bloated mess, but some people do [15:42] and it is certainly trending that way [15:47] I've never thought it bloated, but I did htink it was messy back in the 1.4 days [15:47] but they've cleaned up so much, I think it is very nice now. [15:51] the code is nice, but its just big [15:51] it tries to be everything to everybody [15:51] its nice to use [15:51] but so is rails [15:51] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [15:53] _/(..)\_ [15:54] pushups? [15:58] I don't think it does try to be everything to everybody, but wtf do I know?