[00:00] <fsat> JayBau: bolt are install windows and linux?
[00:00] <dia> JayBau, learn to program!
[00:00] <fsat> learn to program in linux?
[00:01] <JayBau> I'm a certified J2EE and Zend, not sure what you mean but not planning to create my own game in linux
[00:01] <i_am_a_dunce> TJ-, mind if I ask for a bit of bash-fu from you?
[00:01] <JayBau> I just want to play somthing ^_^
[00:02] <protn> heyhey
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> it appears as though my mp4's and mp3's may have gotten mixed up
[00:02] <fsat> sorry i dont know search on web game creator in linux
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> or sorry m4a's and mp3's
[00:02] <protn> whats the easy way to see NEC files as  gallery in ubuntu?
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> so ... do you know if there's a way to rename all things with content audio/mp4 to be .mp4
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> and all things with content audio/mpeg to audio.mp3
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> ?
[00:03] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: sure... hang on whilst I test :)
[00:04] <i_am_a_dunce> really appreciate it man
[00:04] <fsat> protn look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/xnecview.1.html
[00:05] <dia> JayBau, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xonotic pretty fun
[00:05] <fsat> protn use xnecview program
[00:08] <JayBau> dia: thanks, will check
[00:10] <nnull> what vnc viewer can i use from windows to remote desktop into ubuntu, i turned off encryption still says invails security type weith 3 different clients?
[00:11] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: try this, it's in DEBUG mode for now to avoid making changes until you can confirm it will do the correct thing.
[00:11] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce:     DEBUG=echo; OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=:; while read filename mime; do [ -n ${DEBUG} ] && echo Processing $mime $filename; [ "xaudio/mp4" = "x${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "${filename}" "${filename}.mp4"; [ "xaudio/mpeg" = "${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "$filename" "${filename}.mp3"; done < <( find $HOME/Music -type f -execdir file --mime-type {} \;)
[00:12] <i_am_a_dunce> one second, trying now :)
[00:12] <fsat> nnull look at http://www.howtogeek.com/170870/5-ways-to-run-linux-software-on-windows/
[00:13] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: if you're *sure* it is correct, then change DEBUG=echo to just DEBUG=""
[00:13] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: you may need to adjust the $HOME/Music path that 'find' is operating from
[00:13] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[00:13] <nnull> fsat, vnc is linux software? o_0
[00:13] <i_am_a_dunce> O_o some of these are very strangely saying they're application/octet-stream
[00:13] <i_am_a_dunce> the vast majority are right
[00:14] <i_am_a_dunce> but some are saying they're octet streams
[00:14] <i_am_a_dunce> lol
[00:14] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: actually, I think there is a key flaw... the find should use "-exec" now, not "-execdir"
[00:14] <fsat> look 5 different way to use linux on windows at these adresse http://www.howtogeek.com/170870/5-ways-to-run-linux-software-on-windows/ nnull
[00:14] <TJ-> Are they.. can you pastebin the output, I don't have the media files in this system to test it effectively
[00:14] <nnull> nvm was my own config error
[00:14] <nnull> thanks anyway mate
[00:15] <i_am_a_dunce> sure TJ, it's pretty massive tho 1 sec
[00:15] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: hang on then, I'll fix some bugs first :)
[00:15] <fsat> use windows to use linux loll
[00:16] <i_am_a_dunce> thank ya :)
[00:16] <i_am_a_dunce> btw, the directory is ~/Downloads/RoadTrip
[00:16] <mindbender1> I am using rsync to foo@remote to sync bar@remote files. How can I prevent rsync from chowning bar@remote files to foo
[00:18] <mindbender1> bar and foo exist on the same remote. And rsync source is from local.
[00:19] <mindbender1> All the options I've seen suggested on the Internet have not helped.
[00:20] <CeIeIibi> TROLOLOLOLOLO
[00:20] <CeIeIibi> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[00:20] <CeIeIibi> FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSS
[00:20] <CeIeIibi> FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[00:21] <fsat> https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/nightly/rsync.html look at these link to help you mindbender1
[00:22] <fsat> mindbender1: maybe look at http://www.liquidweb.com/kb/using-rsync-to-transfer-and-synchronize-local-and-remote-systems/ to help you to find your anser
[00:23] <i_am_a_dunce> TJ-, how goes it matey?
[00:24] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: OK, I seem to have worked out most of the bugs. Set the variable DIR to the directory you want to target.
[00:24] <CeIeIibi> !OPS WAKE UP FAGGOTS
[00:24] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce:   DIR="$HOME/Music"; DEBUG=echo; OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=:; while read filename mime; do [ -n ${DEBUG} ] && echo Processing "$DEBUG.$mime.$filename"; [ "x audio/mp4" == "x${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "${filename}" "${filename}.mp4"; [ "x audio/mpeg" == "x${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "$filename" "${filename}.mp3"; done < <( find ${DIR} -type f -exec file --mime-type {} \;); IFS=${OLDIFS}
[00:25] <fsat> mindbender1: the web is your better helper ask the good question to the search on google... it my tricks to find anser can't help you use your reasearch skill to help you sorry for my sad helping
[00:26] <i_am_a_dunce> TJ-, i think i can get it to work from here :)
[00:26] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: You'll see a "Processing ..." line for *every* file... but what you want to check is the lines reporting the "mv" commands are correct
[00:26] <i_am_a_dunce> thanks for the debug logs :)
[00:28] <mindbender1> fast: thanks for helping. I have done some research already and they have not helped. Thanks anyways.
[00:28] <i_am_a_dunce> only small bugs with yours are that it appends the .mp3, but that's very much not a big deal
[00:28] <i_am_a_dunce> cuz then i can just run mv *.mp3.mp3 *.mp3, etc.
[00:29] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: yes... i didn't want to have the script mushroom but you can add a simple test for an existing extension
[00:30] <i_am_a_dunce> yup, definitely not a big deal
[00:30] <i_am_a_dunce> you laid the ground work :)
[00:33] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: here's how I'd do it
[00:33] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce:   DIR="$HOME/Music"; DEBUG=echo; OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=:; while read filename mime; do [ -n ${DEBUG} ] && echo Processing "$DEBUG.$mime.$filename"; [ "x audio/mp4" == "x${mime}" -a "${filename##*.}" != "mp4" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "${filename}" "${filename}.mp4"; [ "x audio/mpeg" = "x${mime}" -a "${filename##*.}" != "mp3" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "$filename" "${filename}.mp3"; done < <( find ${DIR} -type f -exec file --mime-type {} \;); IFS=${OLDIFS}
[00:40] <joshsyn> hi everybody, i have a quick question
[00:40] <fsat> go ahead
[00:41] <joshsyn> is it safe to uninstall grub that comes default with ubuntu LTS?
[00:41] <joshsyn> I have another linux install and I want to manage every bootsettings from the other linux
[00:41] <fsat> not really
[00:41] <joshsyn> *intalled
[00:42] <dia> joshsyn, do you understand what grub is?
[00:42] <fsat> your computer never start again ubuntu
[00:42] <dia> fsat, not true
[00:42] <joshsyn> huh why?
[00:42] <dia> you can reinstall
[00:42] <Bashing-om> joshsyn: The last linux installed defaults as the one that controls the boot process .
[00:42] <fsat> grub is boot system
[00:42] <fsat> that use ubuntu
[00:42] <dia> joshsyn, because if you don't understand what a boot loader is, you shouldn't mess with it
[00:43] <fsat> dia: i know we can reinstall
[00:43] <joshsyn> dia, how do you even jump to that conclusion
[00:43] <joshsyn> i know what bootloaders are but just wondering if ubuntu does not like it
[00:44] <joshsyn> I have archlinux installed. And I want it to manage the boot.
[00:44] <fsat> but if do this uninstall grub he'll need do use installer ubuntu to reinstall all system
[00:44] <dia> joshsyn, a lootloader is not specific to ubuntu
[00:44] <joshsyn> Bashing-om, but you can always fix it by chrooting right with a live CD?
[00:44] <dia> joshsyn, blah, i mean grub is not specific to ubuntu, you can use any bootloader
[00:44] <TJ-> joshsyn: that should be fine, assuming the Arch install of grub does an os-probe and adds the Ubuntu installation to grub.cfg
[00:45] <indy_>  I just replaced the kernel on my Ubuntu 14.04 from 3.19 to 4.1. How can disable updates for 3.19 and receive updates for kernel 4.1? any help wld be greatly apprecaited
[00:45] <joshsyn> TJ-, yes it does
[00:45] <joshsyn> everyone, actually I have already done so. My grub installed in arch is able to probe every linux installations and write to grub.cfg
[00:46] <joshsyn> I just don't see the purpose of having grub2 installed in ubuntu as well
[00:46] <joshsyn> so I purged it
[00:46] <TJ-> joshsyn: if you decide to remove the Ubuntu packages, take precautions so it doesn't as part of the removal make changes to the /boot/grub/
[00:46] <dia> joshsyn, just make sure the kernel still there lol
[00:47] <fsat> i think that i don't have enough linux skills to help really
[00:47] <fsat> sorry
[00:47] <joshsyn> TJ-, so you mean during upgrade process for ubuntu it can still write to /boot/grub ?
[00:47] <joshsyn> dia, yeah ;) ubuntu kernel is safe
[00:48] <joshsyn> its a UEFI system.
[00:48] <dia> joshsyn, Actually... every kernel upgrade runs grubs config...
[00:48] <TJ-> joshsyn: No, I was concerned that when you removed/purged Ubuntu's grub it might remove some of the grub files from /boot/grub/, and /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/
[00:49] <fsat> and what to be usefull to uninstall grub boot system? i don't understand why do this?
[00:49] <TJ-> dia: not if grub isn't installed ... grub is triggered by hook scripts it installs
[00:49] <dia> TJ-, Oh! didn't know that.
[00:50] <indy_> any suggestion?
[00:50] <joshsyn> great
[00:50] <TJ-> fsat: joshsyn has multiple Linux operating systems installed. Only one needs to manage the boot-loader/manager
[00:51] <joshsyn> yeah so far, its working great. I was just worried it might cause harm during upgrades.
[00:51] <joshsyn> thanks all, especially TJ-
[00:51] <dia> joshsyn, you could just use your computers UEFI to boot the kernel stub directly, i did that with gentoo
[00:52] <joshsyn> dia, yeah but I still need a manager to manage 2 linux + 1 windows
[00:52] <TJ-> joshsyn: If it's UEFI, then Windows doesn't need to be known to GRUB at all
[00:53] <fsat> and linux don't give the chance to give the starter menu to select which system operating to start at begin ex: install ubuntu server 12... and lubuntu the system ask the choice between bolt!
[00:56] <wileee> fsat, Unless you messed with the grub timeout you can see it, if you want, if that's the point.
[00:57] <TJ-> wileee:  I think fsat is referring to doing a direct UEFI > Linux kernel boot, without GRUB
[00:57] <wileee> Ah, my mistake.
[00:58] <fsat> wileee: i understand now what is the advantage
[01:00] <joshsyn> TJ- correct about windows. However I still want to have the option of choosing every OS installed at startup
[01:00] <wileee> fsat, I missed the uefi deceleration, so I was wrong, in the context it seems, sorry about that.
[01:00] <joshsyn> os-probe is able to find windows installation as well and it just chainloads the EFI stub into grub settings
[01:02] <fsat> i have made a test by curiosity to install ubuntu server 12.10 and lubuntu 14.04 and when i have restart the computer i have the choice to start which one i want... it's why i have think it's given by bolt grub boot installed when i have made installation...?
[01:02] <TJ-> joshsyn: Yes... however with UEFI its boot manager can totally replace the GRUB boot-manager functionality for non-legacy booting.  However, if you're using custom configurations such as encryption then a separate boot-loader is still necessary
[01:05] <joshsyn> TJ-, correct. In my BIOS settings, it provides me with option to select either grubx64.efi or bootx64.efi. I can boot to Windows directly with bootx64.efi. However if I want to have a choice at startup grub/bootloaders are the only way. Or else I'd have to go to BIOS everytime just to boot windows.
[01:06] <sloantothebone> Has anybody experienced their mouse not being able to click unless the mouse isnt moving?
[01:06] <TJ-> joshsyn: Yes, for systems that don't allow you to force the boot-menu to show on every boot (as opposed to pressing the manual boot-menu key)
[01:06] <sloantothebone> It clicks after a second or two, though
[01:07] <TJ-> sloantothebone: is it PS/2 or USB?
[01:07] <sloantothebone> Idk, its a touchpad mouse on my laptop
[01:07] <sloantothebone> I have a good feeling a restart will fix it
[01:08] <sloantothebone> If not I guess my mouse is rekt
[01:08] <TJ-> sloantothebone: possibly connected via the old PS/2 i8042 chip. There are some workarounds for those kind of problems. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[01:08] <joshsyn> yes, my system happen to fall into that category :P I know most of Asus boards do gives you options. Thanks though
[01:09] <TJ-> joshh20: I prefer to have GRUB - it makes FD encryption simple
[01:10] <ishamo> How can I find this file in ubuntu ? "#include <sys/epoll.h>"
[01:10] <ishamo> I wan't to find the "epoll.h" file.
[01:11] <TJ-> ishamo: Check "/usr/include/sys/epoll.h"
[01:11] <ishamo> Thank you .
[01:11] <joshsyn> Wondering if its possible to remove the rounded corners in unity?
[01:11] <joshsyn> unity windows to be exact
[01:11]  * TJ- hands joshsyn a rasp
[01:13] <ishamo> TJ-, There is not a dir named 'sys' under /usr/include
[01:13] <TJ-> ishamo: then you haven't installed the -dev package that the source you are trying to build, requires
[01:14] <joshsyn> :P. I think I have to edit some CSS files
[01:14] <TJ-> ishamo: that file comes from libc6-dev
[01:15] <crazyhorse18> hi i created a user.. and added the user to a group using the command sudo usermod -a -G repo myusername
[01:16] <crazyhorse18> if i type, groups myusername, i see repo in the list...
[01:16] <Tebbo> I'm experiencing an exceptional amount of screen tearing when using chrome on 14.04
[01:16] <Tebbo> anyone else having this issue?
[01:16] <crazyhorse18> i have a directory /storage/repo/packages  which has  770+ root:repo
[01:16] <Tebbo> (amd64 w/ radeon ati)
[01:17] <indy_>  I just replaced the kernel on my Ubuntu 14.04 from 3.19 to 4.1. How can disable updates for 3.19 and receive updates for kernel 4.1? any help wld be greatly apprecaited
[01:17] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, yes.. intel cpu with intel graphics card.. it's total s**t.. i had the same problem on 12.04 and i have the problem on 15.04
[01:17] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: did the user log-out and log-in again to make the new group active?
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> er
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> maybe not.. let me try
[01:18] <Tebbo> did you ever fix it?
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> TJ-, that was it
[01:18] <ishamo> TJ-,  But I could compile my code when I use the function "epoll_create(int size)"
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, no i have the problem every single day.. which is awful because i'm a webdev
[01:18] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: it usually is :)
[01:19] <crazyhorse18> TJ-, anyway to force refresh it.. i'm writing scritps
[01:19] <Tebbo> lol i'm a webdev too
[01:19] <Tebbo> welcome to the club
[01:19] <ishamo> TJ-,  But I could compile my code when I use the function "epoll_create(int size)"
[01:19] <Tebbo> 14.04 is very slow compared to win7 install i had
[01:20] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, yeah i've heard it's a problem with chrome and linux.. things i tried (but i have no scientific evidence that shows this makes any difference).. is goto settings > privacy.. turn off prefetch resources
[01:20] <TJ-> ishamo: the included directories are controlled by the Makefile. Usually the build-depends are indicated by the configure script
[01:21] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, do you have any unsual network setups or poor internet access?
[01:21] <Tebbo> nah, it's pretty standard here
[01:21] <Tebbo> ISP sucks dick, but that's common
[01:21] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, i run everything over a vpn, when the vpn drops out all of chrome freezes
[01:21] <ishamo> TJ-, Oh. thanks.
[01:21] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, i've actually considered switching development to osx because of this issue
[01:22] <Tebbo> yeah i'm thinking of re-installing win
[01:22] <fsat> indy_ i don't if i will help you but i do: sudo apt-get update and after: sudo apt-get upgrade ,for my computer and i received they update system
[01:22] <Tebbo> but honestly, I've noticed it only happens when loading video codecs or html5 webm's
[01:23] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, problem with developing under windows is lots of the tools don't work as well
[01:23] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, or at all
[01:23] <Tebbo> whaaaa?
[01:23] <Tebbo> I find the opposite to be true
[01:23] <Tebbo> idk what tools you are using
[01:23] <Tebbo> I generally don't use a complex ide tho
[01:24] <bazhang> Tebbo, crazyhorse18 lets get back on topic please
[01:24] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, i suppose it depends what your deploying too.. our servers are all unix based.
[01:24] <crazyhorse18> bazhang, yeah ok
[01:24] <Tebbo> oh we use shared hosting
[01:24] <Tebbo> but yeah I imagined chrome to work well but alas it does not
[01:24] <Tebbo> is opera any better?
[01:24] <crazyhorse18> chrome under ubuntu is a PoS and freezes non stop all the time, i have had this problem for 4 years across 3 different versions of ubuntu and nothing i have tried fixes it
[01:24] <Tebbo> 14.04 performance is meh tbh
[01:25] <indy_> Fsat- I've been updating the system, but no luck yet.  Thanks for your help
[01:25] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, the other thing i've noticed is that if the internet connection is used to capacity that everything freezes
[01:25] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, and all of the windows go white.. hvae you seen the same issue?
[01:26] <Tebbo> nah, I haven'ted
[01:26] <Tebbo> but I have bandwith drops all the time
[01:26] <crazyhorse18> it's annoying how every tab is in a separate thread, but they all crash/freeze anyway
[01:28] <xochilpili> hi all
[01:29] <ishamo> TJ-, I checked the synaptic and find that I have installed the libc6-dev. But I still can't find the directory "sys" under "/usr/include". I think that the dir "sys" may be at somewhere else?
[01:29] <fowl> audio skips in ubuntu 15.04 how what do i fix it installing all the
[01:29] <fsat> i do it everyday manually the update and upgrade to be sure to be up to date system indy_
[01:30] <TJ-> ishamo: if the system is amd64, then it'll be "/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/epoll.h" - use "dpkg -S sys/epoll.h"
[01:30] <xochilpili> im having issues with a preseed file, i always got an error in "manual select packages" ; if i skip manually because i just want a minimal instalation, it never boots just the blinking cursor "_"
[01:30] <xochilpili> any hand?
[01:31] <indy_> yes- same here.. maybe there are no updates for the new kernel.. I'll keep updating. Tks
[01:32] <xochilpili> anyone?
[01:32] <ishamo> Oh. Yes. I found it. my system is amd64. Thank you very much.
[01:41] <Nectar> Anyone have any music player recommendations?
[01:42] <Walkerdine> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to just switch back to the open source video drivers because mine is stuck on the "Use manually installed drivers" and I cant switch it back
[01:43] <bazhang> !players | Nectar
[01:43] <bazhang> try some and see what suits you best Nectar
[01:43] <Nectar> cheers
[01:43] <bazhang> audacious is very close to winamp Nectar
[01:52] <Walkerdine> Why is ubuntu saying my display is "built-in"?
[01:57] <Walkerdine> Well I can't stand having my display be like this so I guess I gotta reinstall ubuntu
[02:01] <Voyage> how to hibernate?
[02:03] <wileee> Voyage, Not in the off/restart menu?
[02:04] <wileee> Voyage, Not sure your question, here is info that may be relevant, not it is for 14.04, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:05] <wileee> note*
[02:05] <joshsyn> Is there a way to check the statistics of a launchpad/ppa's team? The popularity, number of downloads, etc
[02:08] <chrisburton> Can someone help me figure out the command to check user and group inside a directory?
[02:10] <Gerowen> What happened to the ability to open new tabs in the default terminal?
[02:12] <Walkerdine> Does anyone know why I can't select any of the other options?
[02:12] <Walkerdine> http://i.imgur.com/iCrCzo5.png
[02:15] <is8ac> In Gnome terminal ctrl + shift + T opens a new tab.
[02:17] <statustaker> Hey, I am pretty new to linux and ubuntu. What are some of your favorite things you can do with it?
[02:20] <Gerowen> statustaker: Just about everything really.  Lately I've been playing through Brutal Legend on Steam, and Final Fantasy 7 on a Playstation emulator.
[02:20] <ishamo> statustaker, learn  programming ^_*
[02:21] <Gerowen> statustaker: And there's a plethora of good development tools, free of charge, and open source.
[02:21] <statustaker> Gerowen- I have been doing the same thing
[02:21] <joshsyn> I am using Ubuntu rather than other distros, especially cause of the stability of the LTS releases
[02:22] <statustaker> I am working on my programming python Ruby Javascript C+
[02:22] <somsip> !ot | statustaker
[02:23] <statustaker> Sorry about that
[02:24] <wileee> Walkerdine, Have you had a chance to address how that driver is there, and the graphic hardware shown in 'lspci' run in terminal?
[02:24] <Walkerdine> uh well I'm not sure what I did but I tried reinstalling the amd one and now I can select them again
[02:25] <Walkerdine> but for some reason its still detecting my display as "built-in" which it wasn't before
[02:25] <Walkerdine> Its showing I have a 4:3 screen and the resolution is crappy when I have a 1080p monitor
[02:25] <wileee> Walkerdine, where is this shown?
[02:25] <Leverquin> how much space on C: HDD i need to instal ubuntu 14.04? and do i need to make them split on C and D: again or what?
[02:26] <Walkerdine> Just kidding it reverted! What the heck. Under software and updates and then additional drivers
[02:26] <wileee> Leverquin, c & d are to vague
[02:26] <somsip> Leverquin: you need a separate partition for ubuntu.
[02:27] <wileee> not used inn linux
[02:27] <Leverquin> how to saperate?
[02:27] <Leverquin> i have saperated on win but i will keep win and just add ubuntu
[02:27] <Walkerdine> How do I uninstall mesa
[02:27] <is8ac> Leverquin, 8GB should be enough space for ubuntu.
[02:27] <Leverquin> so how to seperate hdd? after instalation or what?
[02:28] <wileee> Leverquin, Per chance have you been looking at Wubi
[02:28] <Leverquin> what is wubi?
[02:28] <somsip> !wubi | Leverquin
[02:28] <Leverquin> oh i see
[02:28] <wileee> Leverquin, not important just ruling it out.
[02:29] <Leverquin> !install
[02:29] <Walkerdine> Wileee: Im not sure what Im looking for
[02:30] <wileee> Walkerdine, What is on the computer now?
[02:30] <Leverquin> thanks guys
[02:30] <Walkerdine> Not sure how to tell
[02:30] <Walkerdine> Im new to this
[02:30] <wileee> Walkerdine, what operating system is installed on the computer?
[02:30] <Walkerdine> Ubuntu
[02:31] <Walkerdine> 14.04
[02:31] <wileee> Walkerdine, Your inquiry reads a you need help to install.
[02:31] <wileee> as*
[02:32] <is8ac> Leverquin, In the Linux world, disks are named /dev/sda, /dev/sdb etc, and the partitions on them are names /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2.
[02:32] <Walkerdine> No I need help figuring out why my video drivers are messed up
[02:32] <wileee> Walkerdine, Sorry but you addressed me I was helping another and doing 5 other things, ignore me.
[02:32] <Walkerdine> Its okay
[02:32] <Shed-34046> is ubuntu good enough to use on main machine that i use everyday
[02:33] <wileee> Walkerdine, Don't ask random helpers here.
[02:33] <Shed-34046> by good i mean stable enough, have plenty of browsers, music players, editors, etc.
[02:34] <Walkerdine> What does that mean
[02:34] <Shed-34046> editors like video editing and img and video makers
[02:34] <Walkerdine> People are going to make me do crap I shouldnt?
[02:34] <artois> Shed-34046: yup
[02:34] <Shed-34046> artois i heard its more stable than windows lol
[02:35] <kokut> Hello, how can i add users to the users with permissions "list" for a directory? because if i add myself to the user group and then chown -R :user-group it doesn't add persmissions to other users in the same group
[02:35] <wafflejock> Shed-34046: yeah the only thing to keep in mind is that programs compiled for running on windows won't run easily on ubuntu but there are alternatives available to handle tasks that most users do
[02:36] <Shed-34046> I do most things in firefox :)
[02:36] <wileee> Walkerdine, Actually I was helping but your response had nothing to do with my last question, I have a brain about the size of a walnut, heh.....so
[02:36] <wafflejock> Shed-34046: by default you'll have libreoffice which covers the office basics (word prorcessing etc.), you have FF out of the box, if you want a good image editor check out gimp, krita, and inkscape, for video editing kdenlive is a pretty good one
[02:36] <is8ac> Shed-34046, High end video editing is somewhat lacking on Linux, but 3D animation, music, and image editing is well supported and stable.
[02:37] <artois> Shed-34046: it is, not that that's saying much
[02:37] <Walkerdine> I'm really confuseder
[02:38] <artois> is8ac: oh yeah? What video editors have you used?
[02:38] <Walkerdine> Seriously considering just reinstalling since I just installed linux anyway
[02:38] <artois> Walkerdine: as long as the problem isn't to do with something that happened during installation and might just happen again
[02:38] <artois> Walkerdine: that might save the most time
[02:39] <wafflejock> Walkerdine: if you installed some binary drivers and can't uninstall them with the binary you downloaded then that's probably your easiest route to revert
[02:39] <artois> is that all that happened?
[02:39] <wileee> Walkerdine, you mention AMD, as I understand you might see if the card has drivers, this brand has issues at times.
[02:39] <is8ac> artois, just saying that foss video editing software is't at the same level of polish as, say blender or gimp.
[02:40] <Walkerdine> I installed the drivers from the website again but then it just reverted back to the problem drivers
[02:40] <artois> is8ac: sure it is
[02:40] <artois> arguably farther
[02:40] <Walkerdine> I watched my screen squish
[02:40] <wafflejock> artois: what video editor do you use?
[02:40] <is8ac> artois, what video editors should I try out?
[02:41] <wafflejock> artois: I've done some 3D things with blender and seen some cool things done in terms of video editing in there but never groked it
[02:41] <wileee> Walkerdine, Have you named the hardware beyond a name yet, should be in the list made when running lspci in the ubuntu terminal, really key info usually.
[02:41] <kokut> please anyone http://goo.gl/5av04o i need to add permissions to a whole group for a path
[02:41] <artois> is8ac: to do what?
[02:41] <Walkerdine> Radeon HD 5770 is my video card
[02:41] <artois> wafflejock: ffmpeg does most of the things I need, but it's not exactly a "video editor"
[02:42] <artois> why you looking for a video editor?
[02:42] <wafflejock> artois: ah, yeah kdenlive is good for video editing
[02:42] <Walkerdine> I have a short history of all my commands if you want to look at them
[02:42] <wafflejock> eh who knows making YouTube vids or whatever
[02:42] <wileee> Walkerdine, hold that to your chest and include it with your inquiries, if you continue. ;)
[02:42] <artois> yeah kdenlive should be fine for that
[02:42] <artois> there are beefier editors, but they're for like, beefier tasks
[02:42] <wafflejock> artois: yeah proprietary stuff
[02:42] <Walkerdine> Can I reinstall linux without changing my files
[02:43] <is8ac> artois, video editing software, I've tried openshot and pitivi, are there others that I should try?
[02:43] <Walkerdine> i don't wanna spend 5 hours waiting for my files to transfer again
[02:43] <artois> wafflejock: proprietary stuff?
[02:43] <artois> is8ac: for what, making a professional movie?
[02:44] <artois> is8ac: cinelerra is probably at the top, but it's overkill for almost everyone
[02:44] <wileee> Walkerdine, This seems relevant, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[02:45] <wafflejock> artois: believe http://www.lwks.com/index.php is proprietary think there are a few others
[02:45] <is8ac> @artois thanks, for the information.
[02:45] <wafflejock> artois: no doubt there are a few other foss options as well
[02:48] <artois> ah, just wasn't sure if you were talking about video editors still =)
[02:48] <Walkerdine> Okay it is giving me something that its not supposed to
[02:48] <Walkerdine> and for some reason my openGL is set to VM ware something
[02:49] <is8ac> Walkerdine, if you uncheck the "format disk" option when you reinstall, then all you files and settings should be preserved. Do a backup to be on the safe side.
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: Any return from terminal command ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ( there may be no proprietary driver for the 5770 ??)  ?
[02:51] <FFForever> Hey hey. How well does Ubuntu play in dual GPU setups by different vendors? I have my integrated graphics (intel 4000 series), and an r9 270x
[02:54] <Walkerdine> I installed the drivers from the amd website and then rebooted
[02:54] <Walkerdine> The screen looked fine until it randomly changed
[02:56] <is8ac> randomly changes? how?
[02:57] <YokoBR> hi guys
[02:58] <fabzor3> hi
[02:58] <fabzor3> whats up
[02:58] <Walkerdine> I'm not entirely sure but it says I'm using "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)" Which is apparently a problem
[02:58] <YokoBR> everytime i boot, i get stuck on check disk and then i have to type systemctl default to continue :(
[02:58] <fabzor3> isnt gallium an intel video driver?
[02:59] <fabzor3> YokoBR, so is the program called check disk or fsck?
[02:59] <YokoBR> fabzor3: amd
[02:59] <wileee> YokoBR, fsck?
[02:59] <YokoBR> i meant disk checking
[02:59] <YokoBR> it runs until 15%
[02:59] <fabzor3> well
[03:00] <fabzor3> elaborate
[03:00] <YokoBR> then i get on that screen
[03:00] <FSMO> Is ubuntu HIPPA conpliant?
[03:00] <fabzor3> does it detect errors, does it need to run?
[03:00] <fabzor3> you may have to run fsck in recovery mode to be safe and check your disk
[03:01] <YokoBR> hmm
[03:01] <Shed-34046> If windows is installed in UEFI could i switch to legacy BIOS mode and install ubuntu? o.o
[03:01] <fabzor3> YokoBR, reboot into recovery mode
[03:01] <fabzor3> wait wait before you do that
[03:01] <fabzor3> sudo passwd root
[03:01] <fabzor3> and set a root password
[03:02] <fabzor3> way easier than sudo for root stuff
[03:02] <wileee> YokoBR, pastebin you fstab  cat /etc/fstab
[03:02] <wileee> fabzor3, no root password setting please
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !root | fabzor3
[03:02] <fabzor3> why not?
[03:03] <fabzor3> no i mean set once
[03:03] <FSMO> Is ubuntu HIPPA conpliant?
[03:03] <fabzor3> sometimes, even in a ubuntu system you need a root password for disk recovery
[03:03] <artois> FSMO: it's 'HIPAA'
[03:03] <cfhowlett> FSMO, http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/faq/securityrule/2014.html
[03:03] <FSMO> artois: Thanks
[03:03] <fabzor3> once when I was starting a server after a hard disk crash it said enter root password to continue
[03:04] <fabzor3> I just think its a good idea for safety is all
[03:05] <kokut> hello i need to fix permissions for a directory owner by a group, http://goo.gl/vTxV4s its annoying to be having to chown the directory every time i have to do things with different applications
[03:05] <kokut> owned^
[03:05] <fabzor3> you can use chown with -R for recursive
[03:06] <kokut> fabzor3: yea i know but for some reason its not giving permissions to all users in the group
[03:06] <fabzor3> are you specifying the username
[03:06] <kokut> so i have to be switching between user:group-name and user-2:group-name all the time
[03:06] <kokut> no i want all users in the group to have permissions
[03:06] <FSMO> cfhowlett: Does all of that lawyer talk mean it is under a non-committal statement
[03:06] <fabzor3> chown means change owner (to  someone) so you have to specify the user to change the owner to
[03:07] <wafflejock> fabzor3: chown can change the group as well
[03:07] <fabzor3> you probably want chmod instead
[03:07] <fabzor3> oh sweet there you go then
[03:07] <Walkerdine> Alright I give up
[03:07] <wafflejock> sudo chown -R user:group targetFolder
[03:07] <Walkerdine> I could have had everything reconfigured and working again by now
[03:07] <wafflejock> that'll update the user/group for a folder and all the files
[03:08] <ablest1980> how do i get google chrome browser?
[03:08] <ablest1980> for ubuntu
[03:08] <cfhowlett> FSMO, ubuntu can be configured as hippa compliant + consult a lawyer.  also I searched for hippa + medical + ubuntu and found some promising suggestions
[03:08] <fabzor3> by downloding it from the package manager
[03:08] <wafflejock> then chmod for what the group can do can do like sudo chmod -R g+wrx targetFolder
[03:08] <fabzor3> sudo apt-get install chromium-browaer
[03:08] <wafflejock> kokut: ^^
[03:08] <xangua> ablest1980: Google Google chrome and download it
[03:08] <wileee> ablest1980, Google has a deb download
[03:08] <ablest1980> ok
[03:08] <fabzor3> or get the official one for ubuntu if you want netflix to work better
[03:09] <FSMO> cfhowlett: thanks for the advice
[03:09] <fabzor3> from the chrome page
[03:09] <kokut> wafflejock:  but i dont want to give permission to a freaking user i want to give permission to the whole group its not freaking working!!
[03:09] <wafflejock> kokut: calm down I'm trying to help you here but no reason to panic :)
[03:09] <fabzor3> fight fight fight
[03:09] <is8ac> ablest1900, you can install chromium with apt-get, but Google chrome requires a deb from the downloads page.
[03:09] <wafflejock> kokut: see the chmod I wrote
[03:09] <fabzor3> kick and punch us
[03:10] <kokut> wafflejock: i already chmod -R 775 /path/ isnt that enough?
[03:10] <fabzor3> demand you money back
[03:10] <wafflejock> kokut: sudo chmod -R g+rwx foldername, <-- that will update the group permissions to add read write and execute so anyone in the group can do those
[03:10] <fabzor3> wait up lets see the helps
[03:10] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | fabzor3,
[03:10] <wafflejock> kokut: did you do the chown as well for the group?
[03:11] <fabzor3> apologies
[03:11] <fabzor3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[03:11] <kokut> wafflejock: still not working
[03:11] <wafflejock> kokut: if the files have the correct user/group owner and the correct permissions for the group you'll be fine
[03:11] <wafflejock> kokut: can you pastebin ls -al, and tell me what group it should be?
[03:12] <wafflejock> and what permissions they need?
[03:12] <fabzor3> also sudo chmod 777 -R /path/to/someDirectory
[03:12] <kokut> wafflejock: is showing one of the users and the group i need all users in the freaking group
[03:12] <Earl__> EriC^^, I gave up, I tried researching to understand your solution earlier but it just went over my head
[03:12] <kokut> thats why i sudo chown :group-name /path/
[03:13] <wafflejock> kokut: the user has to be one user but if all the users are in a group and the group for the permissions is that group then you're fine
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !ports | tintedwindows,
[03:13] <wafflejock> kokut: you can't have multiple users that own a file without an acl
[03:13] <tintedwindows> what is the command to see all the ports?
[03:13] <wafflejock> !acl | kokut
[03:13] <tintedwindows> ohhh thanks you
[03:14] <kokut> wafflejock: but if i change the user it works
[03:14] <wafflejock> kokut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[03:14] <fabzor3> tintedwindows, what kind of router are you trying to configure?
[03:14] <wafflejock> kokut: are both users in the group the files are owned by?
[03:14] <kokut> wafflejock: yep
[03:14] <wafflejock> okay and does the group have the correct permissions for what you're trying to do or just the user?
[03:15] <kokut> wafflejock: i dont know
[03:15] <wafflejock> kokut: you can check the users groups with "groups [usernamehere]"
[03:15] <wafflejock> kokut: well tell me what you're trying to do and show the output of ls -al and I can tell you if the permissions are correct
[03:15] <wafflejock> kokut: otherwise I'm just guessing
[03:16] <kokut> oh well the username isnt in the group but i remember adding it earlier!
[03:16] <guest0721> why is it that the mint (rafaela based on ubuntu 14.04) repository latest flashplugin-installer is 11.2.202.491ubuntu0.14.04.1, but the repositories for xubuntu 14.04 (isn't this considered ubuntu?) have 11.202.442ubuntu0.14.04.1 which is known to be dangerous and buggy and which is now quite old?
[03:16] <wafflejock> kokut: okay well we've got the problem then probably
[03:16] <RRR> ff
[03:16] <guest0721> this is an ubuntu question (don't be upset about the mint reference, it was by contrast) the problem is only with ubuntu
[03:16] <cfhowlett> guest0721, mint is not ubuntu.  ubuntu is not mint.
[03:16] <kokut> its even in the freaking bash history, sudo useradd -g  group-name user-name
[03:17] <guest0721> cfhowlett, my question is 100% an ubuntu question I was just warding off answers like that is the latest available etc. in my reference to mint
[03:17] <kokut> useradd: user 'user-name' already exists wafflejock
[03:17] <nox_42> Is anyone familiar with using nginx to load balance two nginx web servers?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !server | nox_42 sounds like a great server channel query if no answer here
[03:18] <wafflejock> kokut: looks okay, not sure what to tell ya on that exactly.... so it's saying they're in the group but groups doesn't show it?
[03:18] <kokut> wafflejock: exactly
[03:18] <guest0721> if you can't deal with that contrast, then remove the 'mint' reference and answer the actual question  please cfhowlet et al
[03:19] <guest0721> cfhowlett,
[03:19] <fabzor3> guest0721, because as ubuntu users we are totally down with old buggy versions of flash
[03:19] <guest0721> ok I will reword it.,  Why do the ubuntu repositories have an ancient buggy dangerous version of flashplugin-installer still?
[03:19] <wafflejock> kokut: you can check cat /etc/group, you should see them in there (can grep for the group or username like cat /etc/group | grep group)
[03:20] <fabzor3> not sure why, im running ubuntu 15 x64 and my flash works fine
[03:20] <guest0721> come on fabzor3, don't be facetious, this isn't a sarcastic answer, it is a sincere one.
[03:20] <wafflejock> kokut: not sure though maybe logout and login or something not sure why that's happening, not that I often add groups or users
[03:20] <fabzor3> is it just xubuntu that has the old one?
[03:20] <fabzor3> nah im also saying that its not THAT dangerous
[03:20] <guest0721> fabzor3, which version of flashplugin-installer do you have?
[03:20] <fabzor3> also can you somehow install the new flash?
[03:21] <guest0721> and did you get it from the repository or a tarball
[03:21] <fabzor3> err not sure, whatever one comes with ubuntu 15x64
[03:21] <fabzor3> I think its 11, but i wouldnt be suprised if its still 10
[03:21] <kokut> wafflejock: i dont know what to make of that output
[03:21] <fabzor3> no
[03:21] <zzo38> What program can I use to read Windows .HLP files in Linux?
[03:21] <fabzor3> I did however manually download chrome browser from google, the 64 bit one
[03:21] <guest0721> just lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu etc, i.e. ubuntu flavors
[03:21] <fabzor3> and that comes preloaded with pepperflash that is maintained by google
[03:21] <guest0721> all ubuntu derivatives have the new one
[03:21] <wafflejock> kokut: you should basically see a group for each line and the users in the group after the group name
[03:22] <wafflejock> kokut: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69221/adding-user-to-a-group-why-had-to-reboot
[03:22] <guest0721> yes you can use a tarball, but it gets to be a bit of a pita with so many bugfixes
[03:22] <kokut> wafflejock: no it doesnt work
[03:22] <guest0721> and so many recent dangerous versions
[03:23] <kokut> man wtf is going on why is it so complicated to freaking add a user to a group and give that group permissions to a folder
[03:23] <guest0721> I like to stick with LTS
[03:23] <fabzor3> I really think you may be running an older version of xubuntu
[03:23] <guest0721> I would n ever use anything google related fabzor3
[03:23] <fabzor3> also why not use pepperflash?
[03:23] <fabzor3> But you would use flash
[03:24] <fabzor3> and THE INTERNET
[03:24] <guest0721> touche'  yes, I know google makes it now, but there is less google in just the flash plugin than there is in their browser
[03:24] <fabzor3> sorry okay thats fair enough
[03:24] <guest0721> no you had a point fabzor3 .   but gnash just won't hack it
[03:24] <fabzor3> I liked the idea of gnash
[03:25] <is8ac> Internet without flash isn't so bad now days.
[03:25] <fabzor3> but im not sure its well developed enough
[03:25] <guest0721> oh I loved the idea of gnash
[03:25] <xangua> !info flashplugin-installer | guest0721 can you now stop please?
[03:25] <guest0721> yes it is if all your clients have totally flash websites
[03:25] <zzo38> Also how can I set the system locale?
[03:25] <fabzor3> I always used to run with flash-nonfree in my arch days
[03:25] <fabzor3> had good experiences with that
[03:25] <fabzor3> nowdays i use pepper
[03:26] <kokut> wafflejock: help me
[03:26] <kokut> wafflejock: please man
[03:26] <Earl__> Can anyone assist me in installing ubuntu to an external hard drive? I mostly need help installing the bootloader /to/ the external hard drive. I don't want to mess with window's MBR at all.
[03:26] <fabzor3> hi Earl__
[03:26] <vubuntor> anyone here knowing how to deal with boot?
[03:26] <fabzor3> hmm
[03:26] <guest0721> aha use flashplugin-nonfree instead of flashplugin-installer xangua?  is that it?
[03:26] <fabzor3> depends on your bios as well, depends if it like uefi partitions
[03:26] <guest0721> I knew there had to be a real, non facetious answer to it
[03:27] <fabzor3> lol what on earth is xaguna?
[03:27] <fabzor3> sounds like sun tan lotion
[03:27] <Earl__> Running Windows 10, so UEFI I suppose?
[03:27] <wafflejock> kokut: sorry stepped away there so logging out and logging in or rebooting didn't help?
[03:27] <fabzor3> oh jeez
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !details | vubuntor "deal with boot"?
[03:27] <vubuntor> fabzor3: my boot menu only showing windows boot manager,there is no other entry for liveusb
[03:27] <fabzor3> yeah probably uefi
[03:27] <guest0721> oh sorry not xaguna xangua
[03:27] <kokut> wafflejock: okay i'm going to reboot but idk what its going to do if i didnt change anything?
[03:27] <wafflejock> kokut: there are also some GUIs available to help make managing users and groups a bit easier
[03:27] <guest0721> my completion was failing
[03:28] <fabzor3> have you tried plugging the usb hard disk in, booting off the install dvd and then installing ubuntu to the usb drive just like you would any other drive?
[03:28] <wafflejock> kokut: okay when you do cat /etc/groups | grep thegroupnamehere
[03:28] <wafflejock> kokut: does it show both users in that line?
[03:28] <fabzor3> still equally confusing
[03:28] <wafflejock> kokut: based on what usermod is saying it sounds like they got added
[03:28] <is8ac> Earl__, I'v had good experience with using the guided install and just selecting the usb flash drive as the installation drive.
[03:28] <fabzor3> is that some whacky xubuntu thing?
[03:28] <vubuntor> never had this issue before,only happened after updating windows 10
[03:28] <fabzor3> huhuhu
[03:28] <fabzor3> microsoft stole your dingo
[03:28] <Earl__> yes fabzor3. I did successfully install Ubuntu to the extHD
[03:29] <fabzor3> play so Earl__ can you select in the bios to boot of usb
[03:29] <Earl__> However now it boots straight to grub> command line
[03:29] <kokut> wafflejock: groups username doesnt show the username in the group
[03:29] <vubuntor> now i can't even install windwos
[03:29] <guest0721> but just to verify, the answer is to use flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) (which I thought no longer existed)  instead of flashplugin-installer
[03:29] <fabzor3> or alternatively perhaps your bios sees it as a hard disk
[03:29] <wafflejock> kokut: yeah that's okay that's what the reboot should fix
[03:29] <fabzor3> look for the usb hard disk in the list of hard disks
[03:29] <Earl__> I think maybe that's where I get lost
[03:29] <zzo38> I dont want to install all of Wine
[03:29] <kokut> wafflejock:  but sudo useradd -g group-name username doesn't work
[03:29] <fabzor3> yeah keep looking in the bios
[03:29] <webber_> ola
[03:29] <kokut> wafflejock: it says user already exists
[03:30] <fabzor3> and play around with uefi vs csm boot
[03:30] <vubuntor> fabzor3: there is only Windows Boot Manager on the boot list
[03:30] <webber_> ola
[03:30] <wafflejock> kokut: right but it did the first time and now says they're already added
[03:30] <wafflejock> yeah that's okay
[03:30] <kokut> wafflejock: but that was from before
[03:30] <webber_> sou novo aqui
[03:30] <fabzor3> and perhaps disable secure boot
[03:30] <Earl__> secure boot is off
[03:30] <webber_> brasil
[03:30] <kokut> wafflejock: okay ill reboot
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !br | webber_
[03:30] <vubuntor> fastboost and secureboot is off
[03:30] <fabzor3> im suggesting your looking in the wrong list
[03:30] <fabzor3> your assuming that the drive will show up as usb
[03:31] <fabzor3> but perhaps is instead shows up in the hard disk list of bios
[03:31] <vubuntor> fabzor3: wrong? there is only one list for boot menu
[03:31] <fabzor3> yeah so theres the boot list
[03:31] <fabzor3> but also theres boot order
[03:31] <jamesd> 27
[03:31] <vubuntor> that is the boot order also
[03:31] <fabzor3> yeah but like
[03:31] <fabzor3> you want hard disk boot to be primary
[03:31] <vubuntor> i put WBM at the bottom
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <fabzor3> then go into hard disk ORDER and select the usb hard disk
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <webber_> o
[03:31] <webber_> ioi
[03:32] <Earl__> I haven't messed with csm. My goal was to make it so, if the extHD was plugged in, I'd boot straight to ubuntu, if it was unplugged, boot straight to windows. I (mis?)understood this would mean installing the bootloader to the actual extHD
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !br > webber_
[03:32] <fabzor3> yeah thats also what I though
[03:32] <fabzor3> t
[03:32] <wafflejock> kokut: the users-admin utility in the gnome-system-tools package is helpful for graphically looking at all this and modifying it too http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnome-system-tools
[03:32] <vubuntor> Earl__: you can boot to liveUSB?
[03:33] <vubuntor> UEFI?
[03:33] <wafflejock> kokut: you can, sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools, then run users-admin
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Earl__, if the bootloader is on extHD and unplugged, then you can't boot anything - right?
[03:33] <kokut> wafflejock: suod usermod -a -G group user worked :\
[03:33] <fabzor3> early, you may need to reinstall ubuntu to the external hdd using a GPT partition instad of an MBR partition
[03:33] <wafflejock> kokut: ah okay you had some different command before?
[03:33] <kokut> now groups user shows the user in the group, still not having permissions tho
[03:33] <wafflejock> kokut: I thought it was the same?
[03:33] <Earl__> cfhowlett, well... the linux bootloader. Windows's own bootloader on my computer hard drive would be untouched
[03:33] <fabzor3> some new windows bioses hate mbr partitions
[03:34] <Earl__> bingo fabzor3, that may be it
[03:34] <Earl__> how do?
[03:34] <kokut> wafflejock: i was using sudo useradd -g group user
[03:34] <wafflejock> kokut: okay if the groups are right just need to get the file/folder permissions for the group right then
[03:34] <fabzor3> reinstall
[03:34] <fabzor3> and it may be in the format ubuntus drive options
[03:34] <wafflejock> kokut: ah okay right for a new user.... those commands are confusing
[03:34] <fabzor3> let me see one sec
[03:35] <vubuntor> fabzor3: Earl__  can even have LiveUSB on boot menu,howcould i not have it?
[03:35] <wafflejock> kokut: okay can use paste out your ls -al for the files you're trying to work with so I can see the permissions
[03:35] <kokut> wafflejock: well i tried sudo chown -R  :group-name /path/ and its not working
[03:35] <wafflejock> kokut: give it a user doesn't matter which one
[03:35] <HackerII> 23]mzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZP[-.0']
[03:35] <fabzor3> Earl__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:35] <wafflejock> kokut: since we're going to rely on the group permissions and them being in the group we don't care
[03:36] <fabzor3> I miss mbr.. none of this crap happenned
[03:36] <kokut> wafflejock: permissions are 775 for user and group but its not working maybe i need to reboot again :\
[03:36] <Earl__> I have been to that page... It's a little to complicated for me
[03:36] <webber__> oi
[03:36] <webber__> oi
[03:36] <webber__> o
[03:36] <webber__> i
[03:36] <fabzor3> okay let me see
[03:36] <fabzor3> Earl__, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270713.png
[03:36] <vubuntor> Earl__: what did you do to boot and install ubuntu on EFI computer?
[03:36] <kokut> wafflejock: rebooting again
[03:36] <fabzor3> thats what you click
[03:36] <webber__> oi
[03:36] <wafflejock> okay godspeed
[03:36] <Earl__> I installed ubuntu hoping for a more newb-y linux distro xD
[03:37] <vubuntor> Earl__: I don't have liveusb on boot menu
[03:37] <Walkerdine> Yep reinstalled
[03:37] <Walkerdine> Now I can seee again :D
[03:37] <kokut> wafflejock: okay i'm going freakign nuts man whats going on
[03:37] <zzo38> I have figured out how to get rid of the default window manager and desktop environment and install a new window manager, compile new versions of xterm, and change a lot of other stuff too, but there are a few things I don't know!
[03:37] <kokut> wafflejock: this should have fixed it
[03:37] <fabzor3> oh okay Earl__
[03:38] <fabzor3> you have to partition the disk before you install ubuntu
[03:38] <Earl__> ExtHD - 4 partitions: One unused NTFS space, one 250 mb efi, one 4 gb linux swap, and one 50 gb eft?4
[03:38] <wafflejock> kokut: what are you trying to do just execute some program?
[03:38] <fabzor3> proably the easiest way
[03:38] <fabzor3> so since its external this is cool
[03:38] <fabzor3> so you can go to another linux machine
[03:38] <fabzor3> and run disk utility
[03:38] <Earl__> yes, i agree. if only I could get it to work! xD
[03:38] <vubuntor> I want to boot to liveUSB
[03:38] <vubuntor> fck this WBM
[03:39] <fabzor3> and create a new / partition and make sure its an uefi bootable partition
[03:39] <Earl__> vubuntor, i have no idea
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: your ls -al permissions should look like drwxrwxr-x at this point if you used 755
[03:39] <kokut> wafflejock: 775
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: if the second set of rwx isn't there the group permissions aren't right
[03:39] <vubuntor> them MS guys must have locked my bootloader
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: sorry you're correct
[03:39] <fabzor3> vubuntor, whats your issue?
[03:39] <Earl__> I don't have another linux machine readily available
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: that's 775
[03:39] <fabzor3> WHY NOT
[03:39] <fabzor3> you should have at least 5
[03:39] <Earl__> vubuntor, is secure boot off?
[03:40] <fabzor3> okay okay you can get a bootable live cd called gparted live cd
[03:40] <Earl__> This is my first ;)
[03:40] <kokut> wafflejock: okay i ran the command u gave me agian and it worked :)))
[03:40] <fabzor3> its similar to norton ghost or something
[03:40] <wafflejock> kokut: ah alright cool
[03:40] <fabzor3> you just boot off that and do whatever to your disks
[03:40] <vubuntor> fabzor3: Earl__ fasboot,secureboot is off,liveUSB liveCD are not showing on boot menu
[03:40] <zzo38> How do I display DEC technical characters in xterm?
[03:40] <wafflejock> kokut: yeah permissions rarely fun :|
[03:40] <kokut> wafflejock: oh no wait
[03:40] <fabzor3> then reboot and yur disks are all nicely partitioned
[03:41] <wafflejock> kokut: if you're still stuck, sudo apt-get install pastebinit, then, ls -al | pastebinit
[03:41] <fabzor3> Earl__, http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[03:41] <fabzor3> get that
[03:41] <wafflejock> kokut: so I can see what's going on
[03:41] <Earl__> fabzor3, i guess that would be a purchase? I was hoping to fix this with in house materials
[03:41] <kokut> wafflejock: looks like its working now :o
[03:41] <wafflejock> ok
[03:41] <fabzor3> fuck no, all free baby
[03:41] <fabzor3> and open source too
[03:41] <HackerII> PLAY NICE
[03:41] <fabzor3> oh im sorry for the language
[03:41] <kokut> wafflejock: thank you for helping me out :)
[03:41] <wafflejock> fabzor3: yeah try to keep the language PG, good to be excited but all ages
[03:41] <wafflejock> kokut: no prob
[03:42] <Earl__> I don't know if I could burn a cd
[03:42] <fabzor3> gparted is an awesome weapon in your aresnal
[03:42] <zzo38> Is anyone going to answer my questions please?
[03:42] <fabzor3> its great for recovering files off broken disks too
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !patience | zzo38
[03:42] <zzo38> I tried looking at all of the man pages and all of those web pages too
[03:43] <Earl__> I'm in windows. Could I not make partitions from here?
[03:43] <iamnotarobot> I just bricked my laptop by upgrading to 15.04 !
[03:43] <iamnotarobot> WTF
[03:43] <vubuntor> Earl__: if you don't want your windows to brick(can not boot),don't touch it
[03:43] <zzo38> And also other web pages, gopher, info documentations, and everything else too.
[03:43] <ruind> I am having a problem on mint 17 with my realtek wireless dropping out
[03:44] <cfhowlett> !language | iamnotarobot,
[03:44] <ruind> I looked online and it says I need to recompile from source... but those tips are 3-4 years old
[03:44] <vubuntor> do it with gparted and install ubuntu
[03:44] <cfhowlett> !mint | ruind mint is not ubuntu.  ubuntu is not mint.  sorry, not supported here.
[03:44] <Earl__> vubuntor, how would I use gparted without creating another usb
[03:45] <vubuntor> Earl__: ubuntu livecd has it
[03:45] <vubuntor> or liveusb
[03:45] <Earl__> so my live USB? cool
[03:45] <iamnotarobot> How do I fix this? My laptop was working fine, it charges without issue. But after installing 15.04 it freezes the computer after after 10 seconds which is about when it gets to the grub menu.
[03:45] <Earl__> then fabzor3 doing that... how to go about partitioning
[03:45] <fabzor3> Earl__, there is a gparted live usb
[03:45] <iamnotarobot> It wont power off with the power button
[03:46] <cfhowlett> iamnotarobot, upgraded from what version??
[03:46] <iamnotarobot> 14.10
[03:46] <iamnotarobot> again, was working perfectly
[03:47] <Earl__> aye yai yai. maybe i should live and let live >.<
[03:47] <iamnotarobot> I did a backup today (just as well) - but I really need to sort this out
[03:47] <cfhowlett> iamnotarobot, suggestion: install 14.04 for 5 years of Long Term Support and stop upgrading just because a new version comes out.  LTS only = upgrade every 2 years unless you really REALLY need the latest, greatest, shiniest packages.  YMMV
[03:47] <Walkerdine> I should really do a back up... in case ya know, I screw up my video card drivers
[03:48] <iamnotarobot> I heard something about samsung laptops and UEFI issues
[03:48] <zzo38> Also I modified libxul.so on my computer, usually it works but why sometimes my modification doesn't work?
[03:49] <vubuntor> now i just really need to boot to LiveUSBon my laptop because MS fked up my boot
[03:50] <Earl__> what are you doing vubuntor
[03:51] <fabzor3> ahh that old chestnut
[03:51] <vubuntor> Earl__: after upgrading to Windows 10 on EFI laptop, I can't boot into Ubuntu live session or even windows installation(nothing shows up on boot menu except Windows Boot Manager), despite I disabled fastboot and secureboot already
[03:52] <fabzor3> oh it probably "fixed your corrupted boot sector" lolololol
[03:52] <vubuntor> my bootloader must be locked
[03:52] <fabzor3> it does that (super frustrating)
[03:52] <Earl__> upgraded to windows 10 from 8?
[03:53] <vubuntor> if corrupted,how did i boot to windows 10 normally?
[03:53] <fabzor3> hang on vubuntor in your bios you mean?
[03:53] <vubuntor> fab F12 boot menu and even in bios
[03:53] <fabzor3> wow
[03:53] <neonixcoder> Hi good day team..
[03:53] <neonixcoder> How can I run "dpkg --configure -a" non interactively?
[03:53] <anao> hi@all did anyone find solution btrfs-scan hangs on boot with systemd?
[03:53] <fabzor3> so it like wrote to your bios somehow
[03:55] <vubuntor> only Windows Boot Manager on F12 boot menu, and WBM is the only available entry, the others are blank(USB HDD USB FDD USB DVD: (blank) )...
[03:55] <vubuntor> I believe those MS locked my bootloader
[03:55] <vubuntor> someone said the only way is find a way to install grub
[03:55] <vubuntor> i can't because i can't even boot to anything other than Windows
[03:56] <fabzor3> hey theres another way
[03:56] <fabzor3> syslinux...
[03:56] <vaishakh> hi
[03:56] <vaishakh> i want to torify my whole tcp connections in ubuntu... how can i make it possible ????
[03:56] <vubuntor> how when windows can not write to bootloader
[03:56] <fabzor3> grub gets its ass kicked by uefi, syslinux seems to be ok with it
[03:56] <Earl__> yeah. im not much a fan of uefi
[03:57] <vubuntor> oh, re-flashing bios can fix this?
[03:57] <fabzor3> course
[03:57] <fabzor3> you dont need to
[03:57] <fabzor3> just clear your security keys in bios
[03:57] <fabzor3> it has this stupid security thing
[03:57] <fabzor3> probably hidden in security features
[03:57] <vubuntor> so,i need to find a way to install syslinux?
[03:58] <fabzor3> wiping might do it but clearing keys is way easier
[03:58] <fabzor3> ahh this isn arch psssshhh
[03:58] <fabzor3> how on earth
[03:58] <fabzor3> one sec
[03:58] <vubuntor> my bios is security keys-free
[03:59] <fabzor3> http://superuser.com/questions/499617/how-can-i-add-linux-to-the-new-windows-8-boot-manager
[03:59] <fabzor3> check that then
[03:59] <fabzor3> thats specific to your problems
[03:59] <Earl__> fabzor3: seems I installed ubuntu on the extHD in BIOS mode...
[04:00] <fabzor3> EasyBCD sounds like it might be handy to you
[04:00] <fabzor3> all the same
[04:00] <fabzor3> use that easybootcd program
[04:00] <fabzor3> or something
[04:00] <vubuntor> maybe i should bcdedit with efi file from ubuntu iso
[04:00] <fabzor3> to make a new gpt partition type
[04:00] <fabzor3> try
[04:00] <vubuntor> either fix it or brick the whole laptop
[04:01] <ablest1980> how do i download install google chrome 64 bit in terminal??
[04:02] <vaishakh> i want to torify my whole tcp connections in ubuntu... how can i make it possible ????
[04:02] <fabzor3> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:02] <ablest1980> ty
[04:02] <fabzor3> have fun
[04:03] <ablest1980> XD
[04:03] <ablest1980> i will thanks
[04:03] <fabzor3> also check the offical chrome browser off the google site
[04:04] <fabzor3> i found netflix worked better with the official one
[04:04] <fabzor3> its 64 bit too, but its published by google devs rather than the ubuntu devs
[04:05] <balsaq> would ubuntu run faster on a low spec machine (older hardware low ram)  if i made a 4gb sawp on a fast flash drive?
[04:05] <cfhowlett> balsaq, low spec?  lubuntu is optimized for low spec.
[04:05] <Earl__> ^
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | balsaq
[04:06] <balsaq> i like ubuntu
[04:06] <Earl__> ubuntu is pretty graphical heavy
[04:06] <Earl__> what is your laptop stat
[04:06] <fabzor3> balsaq, check out dsl (damnsmalllinux)
[04:06] <fabzor3> yeah dsl is nasty lol
[04:06] <fabzor3> but its really fast at doing nothing
[04:07] <balsaq> amd turion dual core   2gb ram     geforce go 6150
[04:07] <fabzor3> or check lxde
[04:07] <fabzor3> pff thats fine
[04:07] <Earl__> yeah, go with Lubuntu
[04:07] <fabzor3> that will run xfce4 wickedly
[04:07] <fabzor3> or lxde
[04:07] <balsaq> i like ubuntu unity
[04:07] <fabzor3> no you dont lol
[04:07] <Earl__> My experience running Ubuntu on an old laptop were futile
[04:07] <fabzor3> why doe people like it
[04:07] <balsaq> i lubb it
[04:07] <zzo38> I prefer i3 as the window manager and no desktop environment
[04:07] <Earl__> it's nice -- if you can actually run it
[04:07] <cfhowlett> yes, ubuntu *can* run on that, but darned slow.  if you don't mind slow, go for it.  if you actually want workable performance = lubuntu
[04:07] <fabzor3> yeah but xfce4 or lxde are way faster
[04:08] <fabzor3> and dont use mylittlepny blending effects
[04:08] <balsaq> would ubuntu run faster on a low spec machine (older hardware low ram)  if i made a 4gb sawp on a fast flash drive?
[04:08] <cfhowlett> balsaq, but see for yourself: sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde                 then logout/choose an alternate DE, login
[04:08] <fabzor3> look yeah unity workflow is great but way waytoo many blending effects
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> hello hello
[04:09] <fabzor3> balsaq, a fast swap is only faster if you ever use the swap space
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> what a day
[04:09] <fabzor3> your better to just use less ram and never need the swap space
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> how is everyone doing tonight?
[04:09] <gloriya> ivde malayalikal aarelm undo  ????
[04:09] <vaishakh> ???????????????????????????????
[04:09] <balsaq> ok so ur saying it wont
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> hate hate windows 10
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> I never hated an operating system so much in my life
[04:10] <balsaq> 10  is  zen
[04:10] <cfhowlett> !ot | carlosthejackal,
[04:10] <fabzor3> no im saying it will, IF you loak 30 programs for no reason
[04:10] <vaishakh> carlosthejackal : i join u.......
[04:10] <fabzor3> but your better off to just not use that much ram in the first place
[04:10] <vaishakh> the worst OS i have evr seen
[04:11] <balsaq> if i cant make ubuntu run fast on my older laptop i guess i would choose debian next
[04:11] <fabzor3> nah man
[04:11] <balsaq> degian is always fast
[04:11] <fabzor3> the way to make it run fast is intall any distro you want
[04:11] <fabzor3> then customise the desktop environment
[04:11] <fabzor3> so install ubuntu normal distro
[04:11] <fabzor3> then install lxcde or xfce4
[04:12] <fabzor3> logout
[04:12] <fabzor3> and log in as xfce4
[04:12] <balsaq> those arwnt very much faster
[04:12] <fabzor3> if you still want more speed then install slim, a lightweight boot manager and customise your boot file
[04:12] <gloriya> hey guyzzz......
[04:12] <fabzor3> then customise your services
[04:12] <fabzor3> and only load what you need
[04:13] <balsaq> sounds like debian
[04:13] <fabzor3> yeah but you get all the ubuntu drivers and packages ;)
[04:13] <vaishakh> i want to torify my whole tcp connections in ubuntu... how can i make it possible ????
[04:13] <vaishakh> anybody here ????
[04:13] <fabzor3> or install arch linux :)
[04:13] <toter> Ubuntu MATE is a very light distro
[04:13] <vaishakh> pls help meeeee
[04:13] <balsaq> ok thanks
[04:13] <fabzor3> yeah mates great
[04:13] <fabzor3> arch is fast and light though
[04:13] <Weasels> Anyone here ever try Elementary OS?
[04:13] <fabzor3> gentoos blazingly fast but VERY hard to set up
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Weasels, not supported here.
[04:14] <Weasels> I know, just asking :)
[04:14] <carlosthejackal> torify?
[04:14] <fabzor3> nah it looks ok though
[04:14] <fabzor3> yeah whats a torify
[04:14] <carlosthejackal> vpn?
[04:14] <fabzor3> use tor?
[04:14] <Earl__> por vaishakh
[04:15] <fabzor3> oh man
[04:15] <fabzor3> USE A VPN
[04:15] <fabzor3> lol
[04:15] <fabzor3> go buy a good one
[04:15] <fabzor3> and hook it up to your modem
[04:15] <fabzor3> do it properly
[04:15] <carlosthejackal> I use a VPN
[04:15] <toter> If he uses tor, his internet speed will be 56k
[04:15] <webber_> oi
[04:15] <webber_> oi
[04:15] <webber_> oi
[04:15] <carlosthejackal> I connect through 4 different VPN companies
[04:16] <fabzor3> yeah sure, tor is slow
[04:16] <fabzor3> so buy a fast one
[04:16] <urist_> oi
[04:16] <webber_> oi
[04:16] <webber_> oi
[04:16] <toter> !pt | webber_
[04:16] <toter> !br | webber_
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> You want to know my current location? Steinsel, 03, LU
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> And I don't even know where that is...
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> LMAO
[04:17] <fabzor3> yeah cool
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> Luxemburg
[04:17] <fabzor3> man i have win8 on this laptop... I really want ubuntu on it
[04:18] <fabzor3> can I get away with it?
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> yes
[04:18] <fabzor3> hmm
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> dual boot
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> bro
[04:18] <fabzor3> I can use gimp not photoshop
[04:18] <fabzor3> nah no windows
[04:18] <fabzor3> I like not running antivirus
[04:18] <vubuntor> fabzor3: isthere any risk replacing WBM with syslinux?
[04:18] <fabzor3> yes
[04:18] <fabzor3> might break windows
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> I have multi boot, Ubuntu, Windows 7, and Windows 10
[04:18] <fabzor3> so thats why you install it on the disk not the bios
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> I get to choose on start up
[04:19] <fabzor3> unless syslinux can know that you also want to boot to windows and give you the option
[04:19] <carlosthejackal> I need to get to work in the morning
[04:19] <carlosthejackal> but they can suck it
[04:19] <fabzor3> I take no responsibility for breaking osses
[04:19] <vubuntor> fabzor3: if i install it to the disk, it doesn't solve the problem i can not boot to USB
[04:19] <fabzor3> sorry i mean windows
[04:19] <fabzor3> oh
[04:20] <fabzor3> so windows boot manager is installed to bios then? is that what your telling me>
[04:20] <fabzor3> thats crazy as hell
[04:20] <fabzor3> shiiiit
[04:20] <fabzor3> wow
[04:20] <vubuntor> fabzor3: not sure if it is install to bios
[04:20] <vubuntor> no way to check it
[04:20] <fabzor3> windows hacked your bios... fantastic
[04:20] <carlosthejackal> haha
[04:21] <fabzor3> see now
[04:21] <fabzor3> the problem here is clearly windows
[04:21] <carlosthejackal> windows boot manager can suck it
[04:21] <fabzor3> linux was fine
[04:21] <fabzor3> and then windows killed linux
[04:21] <fabzor3> and now your asking me a linux user in a linux channel if windows will be okay
[04:21] <fabzor3> why should I care about windows exactly?
[04:22] <guest0721> the information I was previously given re the flashplugin is no longer visible.  I had multiverse fully enabled and had done recent updates but there doesn't seem to be a flashplugin-nonfree or flashplugin-non-free anymore.  did I read something wrong?
[04:22] <guest0721> !flashplugin-installer
[04:22] <fabzor3> all the same, you should back up ALL your data before you do this kind of thing
[04:22] <guest0721> !info flashplugin-installer
[04:22] <fabzor3> vubuntor, have you got all of that windows 10 install backed up?
[04:23] <fabzor3> because that well stop windows 10 booting up
[04:23] <carlosthejackal> its all about Kali Linux
[04:23] <guest0721> fabzor3, could you help me decipher that information message from ubottu
[04:23] <fabzor3> oh
[04:23] <fabzor3> man
[04:24] <fabzor3> flash is not really supported any mopre
[04:24] <guest0721> well I am unable to work without it --- All my clients have flash websites that I need to see
[04:24] <guest0721> does that mean I can't use ubuntu?
[04:25] <fabzor3> or perhaps it changed its name to adobe flash
[04:25] <fabzor3> nah nah you can
[04:25] <fabzor3> I use ubuntu and I run flash fine
[04:25] <toter> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:25] <fabzor3> what version you running again>
[04:26] <toter> worked fine on my ubuntu gnome
[04:26] <Earl__> can i use gparted from my ubuntu live usb to create an EFI boot partition
[04:26] <fabzor3> I certainly hope so
[04:26] <fabzor3> give it a try
[04:26] <Earl__> is it straightfoward?
[04:26] <fabzor3> it comes with a partition editor, super easy to use, similar to fdisk for windows 7
[04:26] <guest0721> all the other distros have 11.2.202.491
[04:26] <toter> firefox recognized the flash plugin
[04:27] <toter> ok... uninstalling the flash plugin now
[04:27] <fabzor3> guest0721, can you use chromium instead?
[04:27] <guest0721> toter, that gives an ancient buggy and provenly dangerous version of flashplugin-installer
[04:27] <guest0721> that is the problem
[04:27] <guest0721> and please don't tell me to use chromium
[04:27] <guest0721> that is NOT what I need
[04:27] <fabzor3> all right dont worry
[04:27] <somsip> guest0721: what browser do you want to run it in?
[04:27] <toter> ancient buggy and provenly dangerous... pretty much every version of flash...
[04:27] <guest0721> firefox
[04:27] <fabzor3> sounds like you need to download firefox
[04:27] <toter> :)
[04:27] <fabzor3> from the mozilla site
[04:28] <fabzor3> and download flash from the adobe site
[04:28] <guest0721> I have firefox and it is up to date
[04:28] <fabzor3> and get them both working as third party standalone programs
[04:28] <fabzor3> indepenent of the package managers
[04:28] <fabzor3> 3rd party that right up
[04:28] <fabzor3> nah but
[04:28] <somsip> guest0721: then you'll get an out of date flash experience. My preference is to run chrome with pepper-flash when I need flash as it is up to date and sandboxed to provide a bit more safety. Just a thought
[04:28] <guest0721> with all other distros they have flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.491 at least
[04:29] <fabzor3> Im suggesting you download latest firefox and run it from your home dir
[04:29] <fabzor3> like as a standalone app
[04:29] <guest0721> ubuntu proper (as opposed to derivatives) is the only distro that seems to have this problem
[04:29] <fabzor3> and then install libflashplayer.so to your mozilla plugins directory
[04:29] <fabzor3> and manually enable it from firefox addons
[04:29] <guest0721> please leave any discussion of chrome and chromium out of this they are not solutions for me, nor is running firefox in wine.
[04:30] <fabzor3> so then why not install xubuntu
[04:30] <ablest1980> does google talk work on ubuntu without wine??
[04:30] <toter> guest0721: have you tried to install the available version to see if it works for your case?
[04:30] <fabzor3> nah install firefox, 64 bit natively for linux
[04:30] <guest0721> fabzor3, that is what I have been doing out of desperation, but it is not a good solution
[04:30] <fabzor3> why not?
[04:30] <guest0721> yes toter, I have
[04:30] <guest0721> it does not
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Earl__, yes and yes it's straightforward to create an /efiboot
[04:30] <guest0721> and it is known to have exploited bugs
[04:30] <ablest1980> im getting google chrome firefox doesnt work with netflix
[04:30] <earlPhone> Can you help? I'm booting into luve usb now.
[04:31] <guest0721> I would like to stay with ubuntu, but this is a game changer
[04:31] <somsip> earlPhone: have you said what your problem is?
[04:31] <ablest1980> chromium isnt chrome?
[04:32] <guest0721> fabzor3, xubuntu has the same outdated flashplugin-installer
[04:32] <Linux-Uzer> Hi. Anyone can help?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !help | Linux-Uzer
[04:32] <toter> guest0721: What are you trying to run that specifically requires flash? I'm curious...
[04:32] <earlPhone> @ cfhowlett somsip i need to create an efi partition using live usb's gparted
[04:32] <guest0721> and fabzor3 I do have firefox 64 bit for linux installed
[04:32] <earlPhone> To boot ubuntu from external hd in uefi mode
[04:32] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, right.  easy.
[04:33] <somsip> earlPhone: no idea - I don't use uefi
[04:33] <guest0721> *all* my clients' stupid websites
[04:33] <ablest1980> fabzor3, gave me sudo apt-get install chromium-browser i wanted google chrome 64
[04:33] <toter> guest0721: LOL
[04:33] <Linux-Uzer> There's this emulator that's called ScummVM for running DOS games. How do I install it in my Kubuntu system? I've downloaded the file, then extracted the folder, but I don't know what else to do with it????
[04:33] <guest0721> toter.  I can't tell you how much I wish they would stop using flash, but alas, I have to eat i.e. earn an income
[04:34] <earlPhone> Ok cfhowlett, you know how?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, create unallocated space at the beginning of the partition > new partition > /efiboot type
[04:35] <earlPhone> Would that fix my issue for installing to ext hd?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> no idea.  sorry.
[04:35] <guest0721> toter, and in no case is flash necessary or even desirable for what they are doing on their websites.  They just had some stupid marketing people who thought flash was 'fancier' have the outside companies doing their websites do flash websites.
[04:35] <Linux-Uzer> Why isn't anyone replying to me?
[04:35] <earlPhone> Hmm. Ok.
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !patience | Linux-Uzer
[04:35] <toter> guest0721: Flash version installed here using sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer: 11.2.202.491
[04:36] <guest0721> toter -- HOW?
[04:36] <Linux-Uzer> Alright. Thank you.
[04:36] <toter> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome
[04:36] <guest0721> it gets me only a much older version
[04:36] <guest0721> I am using xfce
[04:36] <guest0721> why should that make a difference
[04:36] <toter> 15.04
[04:37] <guest0721> you have the right one
[04:37] <guest0721> so if 14.04 is LTS, why don't we rate to get the safe version, toter?
[04:37] <earlPhone> External USB HD is not showing in gparted..
[04:37] <guest0721> I only want to use LTS
[04:38] <toter> To prove that I'm not lying... http://imgur.com/mCcxdgI
[04:38] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r, what version of ubuntu?
[04:38] <linuxuz3r> i have 15.0.4
[04:38] <guest0721> I didn't think you were lying.
[04:39] <guest0721> I just really want to stick with LTS only and yet need the safe flashplugin-installer you have toter
[04:39] <toter> Try this file... http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20150716.1.orig.tar.gz
[04:39] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r, and you downloaded the "source" package?
[04:39] <fabzor3> ablest1980, are you running a 64 bit os?
[04:39] <toter> apt-get downloaded this file here
[04:40] <fabzor3> it will download the native version
[04:40] <fabzor3> so if your i686 then itll get that arch if your x64 then it will get that arch
[04:41] <ablest1980> liar
[04:41] <ablest1980> jk XD
[04:41] <guest0721> I did download the tarball from adobe/google and move flashplayer.so and the /usr  stuff to the appropriate places, it is just that this has been needed so many times recently exactly when I didn't have time, that I wanted to have a better solution, toter
[04:41] <ablest1980> yes
[04:41] <ablest1980> chromium taking forever
[04:41] <fabzor3> well look thats the theory, if your experiencing something else then please tell me
[04:42] <ablest1980> 53% complete
[04:43] <guest0721> if they finally fix enough bugs so you don't have to do that constantly, I may be abler to stick with ubuntu, but why don't they update version from the repository the way every other distro does?  I think there must be a reason, if not then is there a way to make that suggestion/request?
[04:43] <Silenced_v2> Can someone suggest me a link for VMware player for ubuntu ? I don't find any
[04:43] <cfhowlett> !vmware | Silenced_v2
[04:43] <ablest1980> fabzor3, how do i get googletalk with terminal?
[04:44] <fabzor3> sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:44] <fabzor3> huhuhuh
[04:44] <fabzor3> its funny because I lied
[04:44] <fabzor3> nah i honestly have no idea
[04:45] <fabzor3> https://code.google.com/p/qgtalk/
[04:46] <fabzor3> check this - qgtalk a qt client that connects to google talk
[04:46] <ablest1980> you lied aboutudo apt-get install chromium-browser?
[04:46] <ablest1980> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:46] <fabzor3> no i lied about xchat
[04:46] <ablest1980> ok
[04:46] <ablest1980> ty
[04:46] <fabzor3> because xchat is irc
[04:47] <fabzor3> and irc is the bomb
[04:47] <ablest1980> no i want googletalk
[04:47] <fabzor3> but hosestly that qt client for google talk looks good
[04:47] <fabzor3> qGTalk is a Google Talk client developed with Qt and libgloox. qGTalk functions like the Windows version of Google Talk (currently only text messaging is implemented) but runs on Linux.
[04:47] <fabzor3> looks good
[04:47] <ablest1980> ok
[04:47] <ablest1980> i have hexchat
[04:47] <ablest1980> XD
[04:48] <ablest1980> yes
[04:48] <ablest1980> this is irc
[04:49] <ablest1980> k
[04:49] <ablest1980> better then pidgin?
[04:51] <guest0721> ok toter, thanks for the new link (it might be the same thing).  I will do my usuall proces.  I guess I could write my own script for it to make it fast next time.  there is one difference from the tarballs I have been using, toter.  Yours includes a file called manifest.json.  Do you know what that is or what I am supposed to do with it?
[04:53] <toter> guest0721: There's no need to do anything with that file... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON
[04:53] <toter> A script is a good idea... It will speed things up next time
[04:54] <guest0721> ok, then it is exactly the same process.  I found the last couple of upgrades that diffing the old files with the ones to be replaced in /usr showed that most of them actually hadn't changed
[04:54] <fabzor3> pidgin was cool, I dont know I have never used google chat
[04:54] <fabzor3> I only used pidgin for msn
[04:54] <guest0721> oh you really should use pidgin instead
[04:55] <fabzor3> yeah I might chuck it on instead
[04:55] <bov> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 8,1 - 8,3 that was able to successfully get graphic switching working?
[04:55] <fabzor3> just no need since I only really use irc
[04:55] <fabzor3> and facebook on chrome
[04:55] <cfhowlett> !mac | bov
[04:55] <fabzor3> not me bov
[04:56] <guest0721> thank you toter
[05:12] <ablest1980> how do i  bookmark in chromium browser?
[05:14] <earlPhone> Creating efi partition at beginning of drive in gparted
[05:14] <earlPhone> Flag as boot, esp?
[05:14] <earlPhone> Or just esp
[05:15] <guest0721> thank you toter
[05:15] <earlPhone> Cfhowlett if you are still awake
[05:15] <guest0721> toter, is there someway of finding the appropriate link in the future for subsequent upgrades (ideally in a scriptable way)?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, it's early afternoon here in China, amigo.  yeah, make that bootablee
[05:16] <cfhowlett> *bootable*
[05:16] <guest0721> toter, i.e. is there some unchanging link that would point to the most recent one?
[05:16] <earlPhone> Ok. So flag it as boot AND esp?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, hmm.  see this first:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_System_Partition
[05:18] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[05:18] <toter> guest0721: not that I know of... i'm afraid the link will change every time because the filename has the release date on it
[05:18] <guest0721> how did you find it in the firstplace
[05:18] <guest0721> I don't mind scripting multiple levels of linkage
[05:18] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, I read that as /boot/efi   nothing more
[05:19] <grom358> how do you get xhprof UI for ubuntu? php5-xhprof package only has the profiler
[05:19] <earlPhone> Cfhowlett: that's what im going by
[05:19] <earlPhone> So just boot then
[05:20] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, so it seems
[05:20] <MonsieurBon> Every decent linux hardening guide tells you to set limits in /etc/security/limits.conf. However, no one tells you what values to use. Is there something like "sensible defaults"?
[05:20] <guest0721> the urls are clearly based on the date of the plugin, but is somewhere else refers to them, I can get the name for the latest that way, toter
[05:20] <guest0721> s/is/if
[05:21] <ubuntu297> I'd like some help getting my sound working. In 15.04 sudo apt-get install alsa-utils didn't seem to work, and aplay gave me a list of my hardware http://pastebin.com/MBvtnMxh Am I doing something wrong, or perhaps my hardware might be incompatable?
[05:26] <omid> hi
[05:27] <omid> salam\
[05:27] <freezer> can someone recommend a hdmi switch?
[05:27] <guest0721> does alsamixer bring anything up ubuntu297 ?
[05:27] <omid> kasi farsi zaban hast inja?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> !farsi | omid
[05:27] <ubuntu297> yeah
[05:27] <guest0721> nemi famam
[05:28] <ubuntu297> several sound bars, most are half full to full, besides headphones and frontmic bars, which are empty.
[05:28] <locksmit1> hhi
[05:28] <ubuntu297> but master, pcm, front, surround, and center are all showing bars
[05:29] <guest0721> hmmm, and you don't have sound?
[05:29] <guest0721> not muted?
[05:29] <ubuntu297> nope :C
[05:29] <Dynetrekk> hi, found a bug in gcc-4.8.5/14.04LTS. unfortunately it's revealed by a 2k files project. is there even interest in the bug report?
[05:29] <Dynetrekk> and how, where?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> !bug | Dynetrekk
[05:29] <guest0721> I am not an expert and am here to ask questions, but you seemed to be waiting a long time so I piped up ubuntu297
[05:30] <ubuntu297> not too long
[05:30] <guest0721> what happens if you use amixer to sett everything that seems relevant to 75-100% and unmute?
[05:30] <Dynetrekk> cfhowlett: problem is, I can't provide the source, nor is the example minimal. is it even worth trying to submit the bug?
[05:31] <cfhowlett> Dynetrekk, without such details, a reported bug is unlikely to get attention
[05:31] <Dynetrekk> cfhowlett: I write code myself, so I completely sympathise with that...
[05:32] <ubuntu297> Everything IS unmuted. I wonder though, perhaps the cords need positioned differently than they do in windows.
[05:32] <ubuntu297> For some reason, when I get sound in windows, I don't have the cords all the way plugged in
[05:32] <ubuntu297> because when I do, I don't get sound.
[05:32] <guest0721> in my case this is "amizer -c1 -sset Master 100% unmute; amixer -c1 sset Speaker 100% unmute; amixer -c1 sset PCM 100% unmute   but it might be different for you the -c1 refers to the card
[05:33] <guest0721> s/amizer/amixer  sorry for the typo
[05:34] <guest0721> I probably should step aside ubuntu297 and let someone who knows more help you.
[05:35] <ubuntu297> Alright, thanks all the same. At least I know I was noticed.
[05:35] <guest0721> yes, but not by the right people
[05:36] <ubuntu297> I've left several guilds before over being ignored, so any kind of my existance being noticed is good.
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> Help, I'm trying to install Wine on Ubuntu 15.04 but i get errors.. :(
[05:36] <kanliot> not getting the framebuffer when I press ctrl+alt+f1.  just get a black screen.  I have a radeon card.  possible X.org doesn't know how to enter framebuffer console on 15.04???
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> It says " following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:36] <UbuntuMario>  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> any idea?
[05:37] <baizon> UbuntuMario: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f
[05:37] <UbuntuMario> Yes
[05:38] <baizon> UbuntuMario: no errors?
[05:38] <UbuntuMario> http://pastebin.com/CgHzHFcy
[05:39] <baizon> UbuntuMario: sudo apt-get install wine1.6 ?
[05:39] <baizon> same error?
[05:40] <UbuntuMario> E: Invalid operation intsall
[05:40] <UbuntuMario> i typed sudo apt-get install wine1.6
[05:40] <baizon> UbuntuMario: "intsall", isnt "install".
[05:41] <UbuntuMario> did type install
[05:41] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get -f install
[05:41] <UbuntuMario> oh wait.
[05:41] <fabzor3_> to fix broken packages
[05:42] <UbuntuMario> something different this time!
[05:42] <UbuntuMario> http://pastebin.com/9ggChEBx   it says i have held broken packages?
[05:43] <baizon> UbuntuMario: try sudo apt-get update first
[05:44] <UbuntuMario> I'll install all the updates and such and then try.. IF i don't get it install i'll come by tomorrow.
[05:44] <squinty> dist-upgrade
[05:44] <squinty> update only updates the sources listings
[05:45] <baizon> squinty: hes gone
[05:45] <guest0721> oh dear, it seems toter is gone, can anyone else help me?
[05:45] <squinty> ok thanks :)
[05:48] <truck> Hey
[05:48] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get update
[05:49] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:49] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get -f install
[05:49] <fabzor3_> then try
[05:49] <guest0721> it seems that nobody will provide up-to-date repositories for the LTS versions of ubuntu for flashplugin but they do provide it for 15.04 vivid.   Would it hurt to add the vivid repository for it?  i.e. something like "echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ vivid partner" /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list"
[05:49] <fabzor3_> actually you will probably need to fix your proken packages first
[05:49] <truck> Anyone know any way to dial an Android from Ubuntu ?
[05:49] <truck> Other than using AirDroid?
[05:50] <ubuntu297> what are the Canonical packs exactly? I haven't added them yet, simply because I don't know if I need them.
[05:50] <truck> Tried using AirDroid, but gotta switch to phone to compleate the call.
[05:50] <guest0721> I install ubuntu on  my android devices
[05:50] <fabzor3_> guest0721, how about adding a custom sources line
[05:50] <fabzor3_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:50] <guest0721> what exactly do you mean fabzor3_ ?
[05:51] <ablest1980> i install chromium to watch video on netflix now i get This webpage has a redirect loop
[05:51] <fabzor3_> adding another repo with up to date flash
[05:51] <ablest1980> please help
[05:51] <fabzor3_> ablest1980, my man!
[05:51] <fabzor3_> I got that exact thing!!!!
[05:51] <guest0721> I thought just adding things to sources.list in newer versions messed things up, is that not so fabzor3_ ?
[05:51] <ablest1980> hey
[05:51] <fabzor3_> okay okay... install the offical chrome from the google site for ubuntu
[05:51] <ablest1980> maybe it netflix?
[05:52] <fabzor3_> and try again using that chrome (the one with the colorful icon)
[05:52] <ablest1980> ok
[05:52] <fabzor3_> and shebam itll work
[05:52] <fabzor3_> nah its not
[05:52] <fabzor3_> because my windows machines work fine
[05:52] <fabzor3_> its something up with that particular chrome
[05:52] <guest0721> my question was that since there is no repository for 14.04 with a safe version, would using the vivid repository do any harm?
[05:52] <fabzor3_> ahhh
[05:52] <guest0721> and is it ok to just add stuff to sources.list nowadays?
[05:52] <fabzor3_> what you want to do is backport
[05:53] <fabzor3_> yeah thats what you call backporting
[05:53] <guest0721> I am using 14.04, they only keep the repositories for 15.04 up to date
[05:53] <fabzor3_> and yes it could totally do harm
[05:53] <guest0721> that is what I was afraid of
[05:53] <ablest1980> http://www.google.com/chrome/
[05:53] <fabzor3_> ablest1980, yeah that one
[05:54] <SuperLag> banging my head on the nvidia wall :/
[05:54] <ablest1980> :)
[05:54] <fabzor3_> im just about to listen to someone from nvidia speak - mike wang
[05:54] <SuperLag> cannot get anything more than 800x600 even with nvidia drivers installed
[05:54] <galeido> guest0721: Is there some particular reason not to update 15.04?
[05:54] <ablest1980> save file or open?
[05:55] <guest0721> fabzor3_, toter helped me find the latest tarball for vivid which contained the same stuff as the adobe/google tarball, but I want an automated way of checking the most recent and don't know how to find the right tarball in the future predictably.
[05:55] <fabzor3_> SuperLag, you might have to add the modes
[05:55] <fabzor3_> oh wait
[05:55] <fabzor3_> try nvidia-xconfig
[05:55] <fabzor3_> and reboot
[05:55] <fabzor3_> perhaps your xorg file is busted
[05:56] <guest0721> yes galeido, there are a lot of reasons on the relevant machine I want to stic to LTS only
[05:56] <galeido> guest0721: OK =)
[05:56] <fabzor3_> SuperLag, can you load nvidia-settings ?
[05:57] <fabzor3_> I dont really belive you that your drivers are running, prove it to me
[05:57] <guest0721> but alas my clients have incredibly stupid flash-based websites that do nothing requiring flash, but for which you need flash because of their stupidity
[05:57] <fabzor3_> hey gues
[05:57] <ablest1980> it says Thank you for downloading Chrome where is it?
[05:57] <fabzor3_> how about you use virtualbox to build a windows 8.1 virtual pc
[05:57] <fabzor3_> and browse your sites on virtual pcs
[05:57] <ablest1980> nvm
[05:57] <ablest1980> hey
[05:58] <fabzor3_> its more real world
[05:58] <fabzor3_> and you can throw stupid shit like microsoft glitches into the mix
[05:58] <SuperLag> fabzor3_: was that comment to me?
[05:58] <fabzor3_> apologies Superlag yeah I want you to prove you are running the nvidia drivers
[05:58] <fabzor3_> SuperLag, please run nvidia settings
[05:58] <fabzor3_> and tell me what it says
[05:59] <fabzor3_> can it verify your driver version\?
[05:59] <guest0721> I certainly hope fabzor3_ isn't asking me to use windows or wine.   I haven't kept  windows since 1998 and haen't used windows for real since 1994 when I moved to linux and I am very happy for that.
[05:59] <fabzor3_> sure
[05:59] <donald> hello everyone im back and i passed with fling colors my certification of linux OS
[05:59] <fabzor3_> use virtualbox
[05:59] <fabzor3_> and install windows on virtualbox
[05:59] <SuperLag> fabzor3_: 346.82
[05:59] <SuperLag> fabzor3_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12011852/
[05:59] <fabzor3_> so no dont "run it" but keep it as a testing machine
[06:00] <fabzor3_> in a safe little sandbox called virtualmachine
[06:00] <guest0721> please tell me fabzor3_ that none of that is addressed to me.
[06:00] <ubuntu297> I'd like some help getting my sound working. In 15.04 sudo apt-get install alsa-utils didn't seem to work, and aplay gave me a list of my hardware http://pastebin.com/MBvtnMxh Am I doing something wrong, or perhaps my hardware might be incompatable? I asked a bit ago, though I'm not sure how long I should wait before asking again.
[06:01] <fabzor3_> guest0721, why cant you just run ubuntu 15?
[06:01] <guest0721> oh fabzor3_ ubuntu297 has been patiently waiting for help for a long time, help ubuntu297 first then get back to me if you can.
[06:01] <fabzor3_> sure
[06:01] <guest0721> fabzor because this particular machine I want LTS only
[06:01] <guest0721> fabzor3_,
[06:02] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, hmmm you tried with pulse?
[06:02] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, how many sound cards have you got?
[06:02] <ubuntu297> I only have one card I think. The default one on my mobo.
[06:03] <ubuntu297> and I think I tried pulse, it seems to be the default in 15.04 I think.
[06:03] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, can you got to synaptic and install pulse audio?
[06:03] <donald> well linux and some ibm compatables are fixed with certain files in your settings area that may interfere with linux, if you are running all linux and just play windows please look in the linux pro magazing for last month therte is a new program that may help
[06:03] <donald> you can view it free online
[06:04] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, okay go to ubuntu control paneland sound
[06:04] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, and hardware and output.. see if you can find your hardware there and try and select it
[06:04] <ubuntu297> I think it's open now. It's only listed as volume control though.
[06:05] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, plug your speakers into the little green hole ;)
[06:05] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, perhaps you have the wrong output
[06:05] <ubuntu297> I was using the blue one, since that's what my windows was defaulted to.
[06:05] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, windows is lies
[06:06] <donald> windows ios junk pile of mistakes of programers
[06:06] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, in windows you can reassign the ports, using the realtek drivers or whatever your drivers is
[06:06] <fabzor3_> lol thanks donald
[06:06] <ubuntu297> I think I ended up doing that for windows actually.
[06:06] <donald> for what...lol
[06:07] <ubuntu297> anyway, I did move to the green port, which seems to have not changed the status
[06:07] <donald> i wish i had comcast...im stuck using cox...yuck
[06:08] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, try turning the volume all the way up and down and scrub the volume to the left and right
[06:08] <fabzor3_> sometimes it only outputs one speaker
[06:08] <ubuntu297> Hold up... I was playing in it and apparently moving the port did help, once I also moved my configuration to a different profile under the 5th tab
[06:09] <fabzor3_> yaay internet party :)
[06:09] <ubuntu297> Honestly, I felt really computer savvy.... until I moved to linux
[06:09] <fabzor3_> its a great experience
[06:09] <ubuntu297> then I felt like I was trying to work with a spaceship or something
[06:09] <fabzor3_> now you are more computer savvy, and you have balls
[06:10] <fabzor3_> wait i hope your not a chick
[06:10] <fabzor3_> cos its not a side effect of using linux if you are
[06:10] <ubuntu297> I wouldn't call myself savvy again yet
[06:10] <fabzor3_> its just practice really
[06:10] <fabzor3_> after a while you may even prefer it
[06:10] <donald> Well since i have my certification i will be joining linux organization and will be putting my own version of linux which will be called Locker Linux...be looking for it
[06:10] <ubuntu297> aaaand.... I have no idea how I just broke it again.
[06:11] <fabzor3_> welcome aboard
[06:11] <donald> ty
[06:11] <fabzor3_> LOL
[06:11] <ubuntu297> I was checking the other profiles and it stopped working, so I changed it back to the  one it did work on
[06:11] <fabzor3_> what happenned?
[06:11] <ubuntu297> but the music didn't start back up T_T
[06:11] <fabzor3_> could be a gripe with pulse
[06:11] <fabzor3_> might need to restart the prigram
[06:12] <ubuntu297> I'll do that
[06:13] <ubuntu297> well, moving it back and my browser has sound now. So that IS progress.
[06:13] <donald> got to go...good luck with fixing the problem...but you do have a good man to help you he's good(fabzor)...and god bless you all and your families...night!
[06:13] <ubuntu297> turns out windows is all kinds of automated. So it's easy to "know" what you're doing.
[06:13] <fabzor3_> very true
[06:13] <fabzor3_> things are a lot more manual in linux
[06:13] <ubuntu297> But linux is way more do it yourself than windows
[06:13] <fabzor3_> especially installation and compiling
[06:14] <ubuntu297> I still haven't figured out how to install my other programs yet actually.
[06:14] <ubuntu297> I'm really just poking things and seeing what happens.
[06:14] <fabzor3_> like what?
[06:14] <ubuntu297> well, my skype from windows won't work, or even show up
[06:15] <fabzor3_> mmmm
[06:15] <ubuntu297> also I'm stuck with firefox, and I want to use waterfox, which is a 64bit firefox
[06:15] <fabzor3_> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[06:15] <ubuntu297> that makes sense.
[06:15] <fabzor3_> why do you want a 64 bit web browser?
[06:15] <fabzor3_> do you not like your plugins working?
[06:16] <ubuntu297> Actually, it's because when I have open my tabs, I crash firedfox... a lot
[06:16] <fabzor3_> is it because you download so many cat pictures you need to harness the power or 64 bit processing?
[06:16] <fabzor3_> hmm
[06:16] <ubuntu297> tumblr tends to crash firefox when loading about 200 pages of scrolling
[06:16] <fabzor3_> have you tried crashing it on linux 32 bit?
[06:17] <fabzor3_> okay okay... 32 bit chromium
[06:17] <fabzor3_> each 32 bit tab is a new thread and zone of memory
[06:17] <ubuntu297> I'm on 64 bit linux, but no I haven't actually tried to crash it with linux yet
[06:17] <fabzor3_> so theoretically it would actually be more effeicent for multi threading
[06:18] <fabzor3_> it could have just been windows being a dick
[06:18] <ubuntu297> Honestly, I really love windows 10 and I don't want to move to linux.
[06:18] <fabzor3_> I meann how it handles the threads
[06:18] <fabzor3_> well
[06:18] <fabzor3_> try and break linux
[06:18] <fabzor3_> compare
[06:18] <ubuntu297> But Microsoft is like "Yo, you want an OS, that's cool. But you have to report to me every 30 seconds"
[06:18] <fabzor3_> haha yep
[06:18] <julian-delphiki> meh, youcan turn most of that off.
[06:19] <fabzor3_> yeah sure you can
[06:19] <fabzor3_> but you cant turn off that its a dick
[06:19] <fabzor3_> or that you get more viruses
[06:19] <ubuntu297> Yeah, but then windows says "You want to talk to cortana? she's tight with the big man. talk to him first"
[06:19] <fabzor3_> oh my f***
[06:19] <fabzor3_> CORTANA
[06:19] <fabzor3_> JESUS WHY
[06:19] <julian-delphiki> i dont use cortana. and i haven't gotten a virus in years.
[06:20] <julian-delphiki> i use ubuntu a lot, but windows on my gaming pc.
[06:20] <fabzor3_> I HAVE A PERFECTLY GOOD CAT TO TALK TO
[06:20] <fabzor3_> yeah direct xis fast for gaming
[06:20] <ubuntu297> I like being able to set alarms when I'm in game.
[06:20] <fabzor3_> I want to get back into glx though
[06:20] <ubuntu297> But seriously, the privacy and "good faith" is basically telling me I have to stop using windows
[06:21] <fabzor3_> im pretty over the coombayah
[06:21] <fabzor3_> i just want a fast, tach os
[06:21] <fabzor3_> *tech
[06:21] <fabzor3_> I used to be really into dos
[06:21] <fabzor3_> and so this was just a natural progression after windows nt
[06:22] <fabzor3_> then compare bash to powershell, I dare you
[06:22] <ubuntu297> I want a lightweight OS to run my games and not download weird things in the background.
[06:22] <fabzor3_> and the way the services run, so much nicer and more standardised
[06:22] <ubuntu297> is that really so much to ask? :C
[06:22] <fabzor3_> sure, its called windows xp 32 bit with direct x 9
[06:22] <fabzor3_> heaps of good games for that
[06:22] <fabzor3_> but old
[06:23] <fabzor3_> real old drivers though
[06:23] <ubuntu297> Oh right, for the skype thing. they only show a skype for older versions of ubuntu. will those still work?
[06:23] <fabzor3_> actually yeah stuff windows xp, opengl 4 is pretty wild
[06:23] <fabzor3_> oh sorry, lets see
[06:24] <fabzor3_> choose dynamic
[06:24] <ubuntu297> alright.
[06:25] <ubuntu297> Also, hope I can pick where these install to.
[06:25] <fabzor3_> first thing is check the readme
[06:25] <wafflejock> ubuntu297: you can use dpkg -L somedeb.deb, to see what files a package installs
[06:25] <fabzor3_> if you are lucky enough to get a deb
[06:25] <fabzor3_> you might have to compile it :)
[06:26] <julian-delphiki> compile skype? I highly doubt it.
[06:26] <wafflejock> yeah lots of places supporting linux have debs and rpms though
[06:26] <julian-delphiki> ubuntu297, everything installs to standard locations on ubuntu. then you just find it in your menu or type the command.
[06:26] <ubuntu297> because of the way I'm using an SSD with an HDD, I don't want to flood them all onto my SSD
[06:26] <fabzor3_> oh actually this comes with binaries
[06:27] <fabzor3_> if it doesnt run then you will probably need to get some dependencies through synaptic or apt-get
[06:27] <julian-delphiki> !skype
[06:27] <woahguy> !penis
[06:27] <woahguy> (01:27:45 AM) ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about penis
[06:28] <julian-delphiki> !skype | ubuntu297
[06:28] <julian-delphiki> don't worry about download debs and such like fabzor3_ said.
[06:29] <fabzor3_> yeah you can download the binaries
[06:29] <fabzor3_> and just extract to home/apps or wherever
[06:29] <fabzor3_> and just run the thing
[06:29] <iepupp> How to enable PUT DELETE method on apache2 ? Please Help!
[06:29] <julian-delphiki> fabzor3_, no, please, just recommend that people use standard packages rather than ripping them apart.
[06:29] <wafflejock> fabzor3_: that's why you would have problems with missing dependencies :)
[06:30] <wafflejock> best to install from the repos when available and working
[06:30] <woahguy> iepupp: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2934554/how-to-enable-and-use-http-put-and-delete-with-apache2-and-php
[06:30] <fabzor3_> its not available for newer versions of ubuntu
[06:30] <wafflejock> if you must use a .deb or know how to build your source and get dependencies then that's a fallback
[06:30] <fabzor3_> they stop at like 12... way behind the 8ball
[06:30] <wafflejock> even so should just dpkg -i thedeb.deb
[06:30] <guest0721> fabzor3_, I am waiting for you to finish helping others at the moment, but if you can't help me, there is  no point in waiting around.  All I really need to know is how to find the appropriate tarballs for flash-plugin from canonical(-partners) in the future when new releases come out.
[06:31] <ubuntu297> I think I should make a new folder to keep my linux files seperate from my windows ones
[06:31] <julian-delphiki> ubuntu297, uh, are you dual booted right now?
[06:31] <fabzor3_> oh I cant tell you that
[06:31] <ubuntu297> Yeah
[06:31] <fabzor3_> I really just want you to get it from the adobe site
[06:31] <guest0721> was that addressed to me fabzor?
[06:31] <wafflejock> guest0721: if you use Chrome it maintains it's own updated version of Flash Player
[06:32] <guest0721> oh ok, but there is no way I can see to automate that in a script
[06:32] <ubuntu297> I think I can do that though. it looks like I just go to my slavedrive and name a new folder to shove things in
[06:32] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, you should just use apt to install it
[06:32] <julian-delphiki> http://askubuntu.com/questions/531672/how-to-install-flash-payer-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[06:32] <fabzor3_> okay guest0721 i just got told off for recommending that someone compile thier own programs
[06:32] <fabzor3_> woah
[06:32] <guest0721> there is no way any of you will ever get me to use chrome so please stop trying
[06:32] <fabzor3_> lets look at that, thanks julian-delphiki
[06:32] <iepupp> I also want to use PATCH method, how to enable it in apache2?
[06:32] <guest0721> julian-delphiki, the repositories for the LTS versions have anciend very dangerous versions
[06:33] <wafflejock> guest0721: I don't care what you  use just letting you know regarding flash didn't see any previous conversation
[06:33] <fabzor3_> okay guest0721 http://askubuntu.com/questions/531672/how-to-install-flash-payer-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts please read this
[06:33] <julian-delphiki> guest0721 do you understand how versioning works in an LTS version?
[06:33] <julian-delphiki> the version number usually doesn't increase.
[06:33] <guest0721> sorry wafflejock  it has become a kneejerk reaction
[06:33] <julian-delphiki> but the patches get packported in
[06:33] <wafflejock> guest0721: no worries I understand :)
[06:34] <fabzor3_> old version of ubunt = old versions of flash
[06:34] <iepupp> I donot want any involment of PHP, I want to curl PUT DELETE PATCH request's
[06:34] <julian-delphiki> iepupp, its usually a LIMIT clause that is limiting it.
[06:34] <fabzor3_> so why on earth do you want LTS as well as want new versions of software? thats completely defeats the point of keeping everything old
[06:35] <julian-delphiki> iepupp, yeah, apache wont limit those unless a config file is limiting then
[06:35] <fabzor3_> guest0721, the point of using LTS is yes its old and insecure, but its predictable
[06:35] <julian-delphiki> well, we use it for server deployments. gives us guaranteed support.
[06:36] <iepupp> yes I researched it, can you help me which file I need to config, there is no such concrete info available.
[06:36] <fabzor3_> guest0721, I was offering a way to quicky hack in a new version but that wasnt good enough for you because you want an automated way of updating flash?  well my friend that automated way of updating flash and getting security updates is called installing ubuntu 15
[06:36] <julian-delphiki> iepupp, it all depends on your configuration. probably not a basic ubutntu troubleshooting question.
[06:36] <guest0721> and when support ends for the ones that expire faster it always seems to hit a time when I don't have enough time to even get a good night's sleep and I will need something that is no longer supported for my current job.
[06:37] <fabzor3_> guest0721, if lack of sleep is a concern for you then i suggest you go and buy a mac
[06:37] <fabzor3_> linux is about hard work and reading and learning and no sleeping
[06:37] <fabzor3_> EVER :)
[06:37] <joshsyn> just a question
[06:37] <guest0721> oh, fabzor3_ I didn't mean I needed it to be automated, just that there be a way to find it reliably.  I would write my own scripts if for a tarball.
[06:37] <fabzor3_> hi joshsyn
[06:37] <tri> got no sound please help
[06:37] <joshsyn> if i install viber.deb using dpkg, will it upgrade itself later on with apt-get upgrade?
[06:38] <fabzor3_> guest0721, yeah sure you can just check the adobe website
[06:38] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, the most recent flash binares for 14.04 we're built mid july, so they should be okay.
[06:38] <fabzor3_> guest0721, if a new flash comes out they will annoyunce it
[06:38] <joshsyn> or do i have to download the .deb for newer releases again?
[06:38] <fabzor3_> guest0721, not even, just get lobflashplayer.so
[06:38] <guest0721> fabzor3_, I have used linux exclusively for nearly a quarter of a century and nothing will make me turn back now
[06:38] <fabzor3_> its literally one file your stressing about
[06:38] <julian-delphiki> joshsyn, no. you'd have to use apt-get to install.
[06:39] <fabzor3_> guest0721, thats good, im glad ;)
[06:39] <tri> can somebody help me with the sound issue ?
[06:39] <guest0721> well there are a couple of things in /usr that usually also need to be updated
[06:39] <jake_> release the kraken!
[06:39] <joshsyn> julian-delphiki, apt-get does not have viber
[06:39] <JayBau> joshsyn: if you downloaded a deb, then it won't be updated automatically, but if a repo/ppa is available then use that and it will be update when you do apt-get update/install :)
[06:39] <fabzor3_> guest0721, they could be icons or symbolic links
[06:40] <julian-delphiki> joshsyn, then yes, you'll ahve to get a newer deb to install
[06:40] <guest0721> of all the stuff in /usr that needed updating the last time only one file actually mattered, the others were the kind of thing you mentioned
[06:40] <joshsyn> JayBau, that makes sense, why would people prefer dpkg over a PPA?
[06:41] <guest0721> would you happen to have the adobe site url for downloading the tarball directly.
[06:41] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, don't listen to fabzor3_, are you using flashplugin-installer package?
[06:41] <julian-delphiki> you should use that
[06:42] <guest0721> not an ubuntu question  so I don't mind if you just say no
[06:42] <julian-delphiki> which will install it from adobe's site, automatically
[06:42] <guest0721> julian-delphiki, for the last 6 months or so that hasn't been an option so I have had to download the tarball on unbuntu 10.04 (and that only, all the other distros have the newer ones in their repositories)
[06:43] <Guest94321> hi, somebody can help me i have this problem: Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running? I am using ubuntu 15.04 with gnome I didn't have this problem with the version 14.04
[06:44] <guest0721> julian-delphiki, for nearly 6 months now the repositories for ubuntu 10.04 have had a version of flashplayer-installer that not only has exploitable bugs but that has bugs that have been seriously exploited in the wild.
[06:44] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, that doesn't surprise me, 10.04 is out of support now.
[06:44] <guest0721> so even if I am able to get the tarball and install that way, I am concerned about all the folks who use the repositories
[06:44] <guest0721> it is LTS!!!!
[06:45] <guest0721> that  the only reason I am using it
[06:45] <wileee> !10.04
[06:45] <julian-delphiki> thanks wileee
[06:45] <joshsyn> is webupd8's ppa secure?
[06:45] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, it's a very old LTS, 12.04 or 14.04 are better.
[06:45] <guest0721> huh? not 2019?
[06:46] <wileee> !ppa | joshsyn, read carefully
[06:46] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, no, 10.04 was desktop support for 3 years, server for 5.
[06:46] <guest0721> oh did I have a typo?   all the other times I correctly typed 14.04
[06:46] <guest0721> I guess I must have mistyped it once
[06:47] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, yeah, 14.04 is supported through 2019 afaik.
[06:47] <guest0721> anyway it is 14.04 that has the dangerous versions
[06:47] <wileee> guest0721, This is off topic.
[06:48] <fabzor3_> guest0721, please tell us about this dangerous exploit
[06:48] <guest0721> the fact that the repositories contain buggy software that has been rampantly exploited in the wild is off-topic?
[06:48] <julian-delphiki> guest0721 flash player 11.2 is latest for linux.
[06:48] <Guest94321>  hi, somebody can help me i have this problem: Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running? I am using ubuntu 15.04 with gnome I didn't have this problem with the version 14.04
[06:48] <guest0721> only .491 (and later if there are any) are free from the exploit
[06:49] <fabzor3_> guest0721, can you provide me with a description or link to this exploit?
[06:49] <julian-delphiki> fabzor3_, off topic, talk of exploits isnt usually allowed here
[06:49] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, https://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.491/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz is the only tar i could find.
[06:49] <fabzor3_> im just thinking, does it really matter, is it really a concern?
[06:49] <guest0721> it was on both the firefox and adobe flash related pages for a long time
[06:49] <wileee> guest0721, This is not chat on adobe, it is support, you're not helping here.
[06:50] <guest0721> yes, julian-delphiki that is the right one, I just want to be able to find the next one when the next exploit is discovered
[06:50] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ not hard.
[06:50] <guest0721> the ubuntu issue is that the repostories contain a dangerous version
[06:51] <wileee> !ot | guest0721
[06:51] <guest0721> well not everyone using ubuntu 14.04 would know to even try to look elsewhere
[06:51] <guest0721> even removing it altogether from the repositories would be better than having an unsafe one.
[06:52] <guest0721> then people would go looking
[06:52] <wileee> guest0721, You're rhetoric is not appropriate being repeated continuously, we heard you now your trolling.
[06:52] <guest0721> and if it is up to date for 15.04 why not for 14.-04?
[06:52] <julian-delphiki> because 14.04 is LTS.
[06:52] <guest0721> bizarre reaction
[06:52] <fabzor3_> you're the only person who seems to care guest0721
[06:52] <guest0721> if it is LTS why isn't it supported?
[06:53] <guest0721> others don't know why they are being exploited yet.
[06:53] <wileee> julian-delphiki, would you stop answering them please
[06:53] <julian-delphiki> sure wileee
[06:53] <wileee> cool, thanks
[06:59] <funkenstrahlen> hey, I try to run a command with sudo and pipe the output into a file only accessible by root. Why do I get permission denied? https://gist.github.com/funkenstrahlen/138511937b9ab49aa046#file-gistfile1-txt-L31-L36
[07:00] <EriC^^> funkenstrahlen: sudo doesn't go across the redirection, you need to use .... | sudo tee /file
[07:02] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: Does it also work like "sudo ..... | tee file" ?
[07:02] <ubuntu297> So, apparently Linux allows users to use the whole system without a mouse.
[07:02] <EriC^^> funkenstrahlen: no, cause tee would be running without sudo
[07:02] <ubuntu297> That's awesome
[07:02] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: because I run the command via ansible and it can only handle automatic sudo at the beginning of a line
[07:04] <EriC^^> funkenstrahlen: you can do sudo bash -c "<command here>"
[07:05] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: like "sudo bash -c "iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4""
[07:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:05] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: that's a great idea!
[07:05] <funkenstrahlen> thank you, I will try
[07:05] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:07] <cred> so, I'm a complete noob with tmux, can anyone explain why there's a bunch of dots blocking half of my window when I resize it? I'm assuming it's some kind of setting of how large the terminal is allowed to be
[07:07] <kaidelong> hi, I'm using ubuntu 15.04, I want to set up a network share for my local network. There is an applet called "Personal File Sharing Preferences" that tells me "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system"
[07:07] <kaidelong> does anyone know what these packages are supposed to be? It does not say
[07:08] <guest0721> I guess translating away from all the nastiness, what you are saying is that multiverse is considered off-topic.  Is that right?
[07:08] <kaidelong> (neither does the help)
[07:08] <cred> kaidelong: it could be samba but it depends on what kind of share youre setting up (win<->ubuntu etc)
[07:09] <kaidelong> linux<->linux, and maybe an xbox later if I can figure out media tomb, but that's a separate goal still
[07:09] <cred> kaidelong: do you want to mount the folder on the 2nd linux system?
[07:09] <kaidelong> nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common did not do the trick, it seems
[07:10] <cred> kaidelong: nfs is good for linux<->linux, here's a good guide on how to set it up: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[07:10] <kaidelong> cred: It is a home network, I'd like to expose read-only access without authentication, samba would work best
[07:10] <kaidelong> ah alright
[07:11] <cred> kaidelong: "ro" means read only so it's real simple to share a directory as such
[07:12] <kaidelong> maybe I will give nfs a try
[07:12] <kaidelong> I was hoping against hope that I could do this with Ubuntu's graphical configuration tools
[07:13] <kaidelong> but I can't find any evidence of this being possible =(
[07:13] <cred> kaidelong: it's really not that hard to do it in the terminal
[07:13] <cred> kaidelong: just ask if something seems weird
[07:13] <kaidelong> yeah, I've set up samba shares that way before
[07:13] <cred> kaidelong: you basically just edit /etc/exports to show what you want to share, then you mount it on the remote system and you're done
[07:13] <cred> couldn't be easier
[07:14] <kaidelong> ah
[07:14] <kaidelong> does seem easier than samba then
[07:14] <kaidelong> it's like fstab but for a network?
[07:15] <cred> well.. fstab is where you put what you want to mount, so yeah, you put the nfs share in your fstab just like it was a local disk
[07:15] <Silenced_v2> Guy been trying to install AMD catalyst in my laptop . But couldn't succeed .Could u please suggest me . I tried Installing the required drivers but didn't seem to work
[07:15] <kaidelong> so remote mounts goes in fstab, exports to other machines in exports?
[07:15] <cred> so in that way you could have you network disk as /media/yolo and treat it like a regular disk which is nice
[07:16] <cred> kaidelong: any "automatic" mounts go in fstab, etc/exports lists what you want to share from the system that file is on
[07:16] <ubuntu297> I just installed skype, and I got hit by every message from the last month T_T
[07:16] <kaidelong> man nfs
[07:16] <kaidelong> oops
[07:17] <ubuntu297> I think I crashed skype as soon as I started it
[07:22] <Silenced_v2> Guy been trying to install AMD catalyst in my laptop . But couldn't succeed .Could u please suggest me . I tried Installing the required drivers but didn't seem to work
[07:22] <Silenced_v2> Can anyone help me out with this ?
[07:32] <cred> Silenced_v2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[07:33] <eac_> hi!
[07:48] <Koyaanis1> hello, #ubuntu. someone here dedicated enough to help me with my ubuntu installation problem, where I have no clue how to set up this hardware raid 0 and install ubuntu on it?
[07:51] <adsc> why do you want raid 0?
[07:52] <adsc> it's a bit obsolete nowadays
[07:52] <adsc> also hardware raid != ubuntu
[07:55] <treeprogram> Hi, if I want my browser to close after 1 hour, is there any way I can script that?
[07:55] <EriC^^> treeprogram: sleep 3600 && pkill <browser>
[07:56] <ObrienDave> that was easy ;P
[07:56] <cred> treeprogram like EriC^^ said it's really that simple. "sleep 3600" waits for 3600 seconds, && means "only execute the rest if the part before succeeds" and then it run the commands to kill your browser process
[07:57] <treeprogram> EriC^^: cred thanks
[07:57] <EriC^^> no problem
[08:00] <dpak>  /nick MaBooToo
[08:00] <ObrienDave> *sighs*
[08:04] <ablest1980> hello
[08:14] <DXBLouie> hi everyone
[08:16] <DXBLouie> quick question... i've had a fakeraid (intel) drive failure.. and after days trying to rebuild and upgrade the array to larger capacities, i gave up.. and i'm now using md software raid and happy... however in my attempts to get things running, i switched back and forth between mdadm and dmraid, each one reconfigured boot packages, etc.. and now that everything is working, i realized deborphan shows grub2
[08:17] <DXBLouie> i normally like to dpkg --purge `deborphan` after a big upgrade.. and i can't do that now, because it seems like i'm missing some ubuntu meta package that depends on grub2
[08:17] <DXBLouie> any ideas?
[08:32] <ablest1980> hello i need adobe flash for ubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit google chrome
[08:32] <cred> ablest1980: flash is included with google chrome afaik
[08:33] <ablest1980> ok
[08:33] <ablest1980> what about java 8?
[08:39] <Secret-Fire> when finding a linear function using euler's method, is the function of the form y-y1=m(x-x1) where x1 is the step size?
[08:39] <Secret-Fire> oops wrong room
[08:39] <elmcrest> hey everyone. I need to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" after every reboot. Does anyone has an Idea to fix this? 14.04 LTS and all attempts with google didn't solve the issue.
[08:40] <ablest1980> how do i install java 8 64 ?
[08:40] <cred> ablest1980: java does not work in chrome, period. You can install it in Firefox.
[08:40] <ablest1980> :(
[08:40] <cred> ablest1980: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354361/how-to-install-the-java-plugin-for-firefox
[08:41] <cred> get the "icedtea-plugin" one unless you know you need the non-free one
[08:41] <ablest1980> i downloaded chrome and uninstalled firefox for netflix but chess.com need java 8
[08:42] <ablest1980> ill try iced tea
[08:44] <jarco> Hello, I cant get zmq to be recodnised by my apache2. It is seen on the cli php with the command php -m but in apache it doesnt seem to work (it is in the apache php.ini tough)
[08:48] <gmg85> hi?
[08:48] <gmg85> I created a file named \ by mistake
[08:48] <gmg85> how can i delete it?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> gmg85, rm 1'
[08:49] <gmg85> everytime I try to i end up in a new line.
[08:49] <cfhowlett> gmg85, rm ` \  `
[08:50] <Qantourisc> How can I list all services that will start during boot ?
[08:50] <Qantourisc> or rather shutdown in this case
[08:50] <gmg85> did not work unfortunately
[08:50] <EriC^^> gmg85: rm '\'
[08:51] <cfhowlett> gmg85, '\'     sorry, I used the wrong `
[08:51] <moijk> I need to run an x server on a headless server. I see Xvnc beeing mentioned as an option in some guides, but I can't seem to find anything called that (just regular vnc) for unbuntu?
[08:51] <somsip> !info xvfb | moijk
[08:51] <cfhowlett> moijk, better advice in #ubuntu-server maybe?
[08:52] <somsip> moijk: er, actually that's maybe not what you need. Though it might be
[08:52] <Qantourisc> ok the docs in /etc/rc?.d/README are grosly outdated: K does NOT dissable
[08:52] <gmg85> cfhowlett, thanks.That worked
[08:53] <cfhowlett> gmg85, thanks EriC^^ I totally missed that
[08:53] <moijk> somsip: In fact, it might just do fine. thanks.
[08:53] <somsip> moijk: np
[08:58] <krambiorix> hi, how can i install the adobe acrobat reader plugin for firefox?
[09:02] <Guest51758> what is the topic?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !topic | Guest51758
[09:03] <Guest51758> topic
[09:05] <krambiorix> hi, how can i install the adobe acrobat reader plugin for firefox?
[09:08] <Nectar> I have Windows and Ubuntu on two partitions. How would I go about increasing the ubuntu partition?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Nectar, gparted.
[09:09] <Nectar> possible and easy?
[09:09] <Nectar> is that a live cd>
[09:10] <cfhowlett> Nectar, yes.  make an ubuntu usb.  boot.  fire up gparted.  partition away.
[09:10] <Nectar> thanks man!
[09:12] <krambiorix> ok, so nobody knows of a PDF viewer for firefox on ubuntu?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, comes with one by default iirc
[09:14] <krambiorix> cfhowlett, nope
[09:15] <noobified> sup yall
[09:16] <noobified> apt-get install beer
[09:16] <Neo9> Does .deb package takes commandline arguments as input?
[09:17] <krambiorix> noobified, apt-get install your_mother
[09:17] <krambiorix> :D
[09:18] <noobified> heh
[09:19] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, evince is included on my xubuntu, works great with FFOX
[09:20] <noobified> maybe someone can solve this one I got [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Device or resource busy
[09:20] <noobified> do I need set wlan1 down?
[09:21] <krambiorix> thx cfhowlett
[09:22] <cfhowlett> happy2help! krambiorix
[09:27] <retrovirus> Hi, at the moment I'm using Arch Linux. I want to dual boot Arch and Ubuntu and want to use new, bleeding-edge software in Arch; and run stable software in Ubuntu. Which Ubuntu release should I use 14.04.0? or 14.04.2? Maybe I should wait for 14.04.3? Is there a significant difference in 12.04.5 (Precise Pangolin)?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> !LTS | retrovirus
[09:28] <cfhowlett> retrovirus, 14.04.2 is current LTS
[09:28] <retrovirus> I know what LTS means
[09:29] <retrovirus> So I better use 14.04.2 not 12.04.5?
[09:29] <Neo9> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31851950/does-deb-package-accepts-commandline-arguments
[09:29] <retrovirus> Here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support 14.04.3 is dated Aug 2015. When will it released?
[09:30] <k1l> retrovirus: should be today
[09:31] <retrovirus> k1l: It will be released today? So do you think I should use 14.04.3 instead of 14.04.2; or is the latter more stable?
[09:32] <k1l> retrovirus: the point releases (14.04.2, 14.04.3) are like servicepacks on windows + they offer a new backportskernel and graphicstack
[09:32] <Secret-Fire> how can i get my game controller working in 15.04
[09:33] <k1l> retrovirus: the kernel is backported form 15.04 to the 14.04.3 so its already tested.
[09:33] <retrovirus> k1l: I have no idea about Windows or its service packs. But I guess it's a positive contribution and won't change stability, judging from its name. So I'll use 14.04.3 Thanks!
[09:34] <k1l> retrovirus: if you install a 14.04 original image you need to load all updates after the install. the pointreleases have those updates included already. + the newer kernel to provide better hardware support for modern systems.
[09:35] <retrovirus> k1l: I see, thanks! This was helpful! Glad that I asked so I can wait just one day and install 14.04.3
[09:38] <baja> i am trying to access myfile system using terminal but i cannot see filesystem using ls command
[09:38] <EriC^^> baja: what filesystem?
[09:39] <baja> /var/lib/dpkg
[09:39] <EriC^^> ls -la /var/lib/dpkg shows nothing?
[09:39] <baja> let me try
[09:40] <baja> good works thanks
[09:41] <EriC^^> ls /var/lib/dpkg should work too
[09:46] <coraxx> I have a sort of out-of-the-blue question ... does any of you remember the totally free website-hosts like Xoom, GeoCities, Angelfire and TriPod.  The ones I have just mentioned has either stopped or been bought by others ...does anyone know of a new or remaining site of that kind ?
[09:47] <k1l> coraxx: that better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat
[09:47] <coraxx> k1l: ok :-)
[09:51] <EriC^^> coraxx: there's http://www.000webhost.com/ i think
[09:53] <coraxx> EriC^^: thanx ... I came across them doing my googleling.  I will try them out.
[09:58] <m1dnight_> Hey guys; im trying to add a repo (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ) but apt)-get update gives me 404 on the repos?
[09:58] <m1dnight_> Any help?
[10:01] <impalle> maybe something went wrong before/during the installation. Have you tried reinstalling?
[10:01] <m1dnight_> the ppas?
[10:01] <m1dnight_> yes
[10:01] <impalle> ppa-purge to remove the package
[10:01] <m1dnight_> ah okay, hold on
[10:04] <foofoobar> Hi. I just installed OpenVPN with this tutorial (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04) and configured my osx. I can connect successfull and also traceroute work (i can see that the packets are routes through my server).
[10:04] <foofoobar> However, I dont know why but browsers or IRC do not work. I always get a connection timeout
[10:04] <foofoobar> any idea what I can do ?
[10:07] <Secret-Fire> how can i get my gamepad working in xubuntu?
[10:07] <m1dnight_> impalle: i did the purge yet it still persists.
[10:08] <m1dnight_> I have done the purge as well. I noticed that adding the ppa pointed out to purge the old ppa as well, which I did.
[10:09] <k1l> m1dnight_: please put all the command and output into a pastebin
[10:09] <k1l> !away > utlemming_away
[10:18] <Secret-Fire> can someone help me get my game pad working?
[10:20] <k1l> Secret-Fire: i bet that depends heavily on the used gamepad
[10:22] <cred> m1dnight_: what's unclear about the repo being 404? It doesn't exist
[10:22] <Secret-Fire> k1l: it worked before in other xubuntu versions
[10:22] <Secret-Fire> k1l: logitech f310
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> cred  yes, 404 means it doesnt exist, a dead link
[10:23] <Secret-Fire> k1l: system recognizes it with lsusb but no input
[10:23] <cred> MonkeyDust: why are you telling me?
[10:24] <impalle> MonkeyDust: correct, that is also why K1l requested all the command and output into a pastebin
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> cred  ok, it was someone elses problem, i addressed the wrong person
[10:25] <k1l> but since m1dnight_ is not answering i think he lost motivation anyway
[10:33] <hu2015> 为什么来这里的总是挂着   。。。
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[10:38] <nibin> hai
[10:38] <bittin> hai
[10:44] <chip_> hi
[10:44] <x4w3> quick :)
[10:44] <chip_> hello
[10:44] <x4w3> jai! :)
[10:44] <chip_> oing
[10:44] <chip_> ping
[10:45] <chip_> exit
[10:45] <x4w3> happyness!
[10:50] <ivo34> hello I need some help undoing some lxc installation I made and I no longer need which is giving me networking problems due to a lxc bridge. here the tutorial I followed: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[10:50] <ivo34> which would be the right way to get rid of it?
[10:53] <ivo34> to sum up I just run this: sudo apt-get install lxc lxc-templates debootstrap and then this: sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu -n my32bitbox -- --bindhome $ivo -a i386 --release trusty
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  this my irssi runs in a lxc container... so you want to delete your container?
[10:55] <matt_symes> #
[10:55] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  I installed the container to get the wine-git compiling 32 libraries in a 64 bits system...
[10:56] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  I dont mind having that wine-git...but as I told you I am having networking problems on boot
[10:56] <ivo34> route -n gives no gateway
[10:57] <ivo34> and I am using static config under /etc/network/interfaces which got me puzzled
[10:57] <ivo34> I don't understand how the bridge is affecting my network...but I got it working again by   sudo ip addr flush dev eth0
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  i'm not familiar with git, but what do you want to do now? undo an installation inside the container, or delete the container?
[10:58] <ivo34> and then sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0
[10:58] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  leave it as it was before installing lxc
[10:58] <suku> ivo34: have you tried adding a static route using the route command
[10:58] <ivo34> I dont need lxc anymore
[10:59] <ivo34> suku I dont know how to do that
[10:59] <ivo34> well and knowing it I am not typing that any time I boot
[11:00] <ivo34> I thought it would be easier...I am not scripting in rc.local
[11:00] <ivo34> I just want my /network/interfaces do the job
[11:00] <Braden`> Hello!
[11:01] <ivo34> hi
[11:01] <suku> ivo34: i was just doing it to see if it would work, not a perm fix
[11:01] <Braden`> I installed fastcgi php5-fpm and now Apache is trying to output the contents of PHP files instead of processing them.  What do I do to fix this?
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  is lxc-destroy what you want? scroll down   https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[11:01] <ivo34> hahaha
[11:01] <ivo34> lxc-destroy!!
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> yes, sounds 'très' star wars
[11:02] <suku> ivo34: sorry didnt realize you were trying to fix this due to lxc
[11:03] <ivo34> hmmm
[11:03] <ivo34> most probably cause yep
[11:04] <ivo34> and as I also installed wine-stager I dont need wine-git
[11:20] <pot8to> Question, I'm wondering if it's possible to setup a Sftp server with ubuntu inside a Virtual Machine on my Windows machine. But I wanted to know if I can mount a hard drive used in windows inside of the VM so I can access my files outside my home or in the local network
[11:24] <pesari> pot8to: depends on your VM, for example virtualbox supports presenting host files to guest. But then again, you could just install ssh server on your windows
[11:24] <Saturn812> your vm needs to support sharing folders with host system. Otherwise, seems very doable
[11:25] <_SLM_> Hi, one of my computers have become frustratingly slow and unreliable. It´s a Acer laptop with a i5 CPU. I want Linux Ubuntu, but in the past driver issues stopped me from using it. How can I get drivers to work on Linux?
[11:26] <m1dnight_> k1l: Will do. Was afk for dinner.
[11:26] <m1dnight_> cred: I was under the assumption that I would need it to get bumblebee to work properly.
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> _SLM_  removing zeitgzist improved speed on my old laptop
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> zeitgeist*
[11:27] <k1l> m1dnight_: bumblebee is old. nvidia-prime is the official nvidia driver for hybrid cards
[11:27] <_SLM_> Nah, I mean it currently has Windows. I want to move to Linux
[11:27] <m1dnight_> derp; on to that one then :)
[11:27] <m1dnight_> thanks k1l
[11:28] <k1l> _SLM_: that depends on the exact hardware. but in general hardware support got better over time
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> _SLM_  first install ubuntu, then come back
[11:28] <WizJin> hmm
[11:29] <_SLM_> MonkeyDust, this is my main work PC, I need to do it right. No harm in preparation
[11:30] <_SLM_> k1l, is there a specific software in Linux that can reliably run Windows drivers in Linux?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> _SLM_  yes, but it's hard to tell if something will work
[11:31] <k1l> _SLM_: you got the wrong idea of drivers. you need a specific driver for a specific hardware piece. so without any details we cant help you
[11:31] <_SLM_> Ok, so I should come back with a list of hardware?
[11:31] <k1l> _SLM_: and windows drivers dont help you in the most times, because, well, they are for windows. and they would need a wrapper. so if someone writes a wrapper or a free driver is quite the same task.
[11:32] <k1l> _SLM_: make a ubuntu usb and load it and see what works
[11:32] <_SLM_> Okay
[11:34] <WizJin> hi
[11:45] <ivo34> okay lxc destroyed but now how do I delete the bridge?
[11:47] <ivo34> ivo@ivo-desktop:~$ sudo brctl delbr lxcbr0
[11:47] <ivo34> bridge lxcbr0 is still up; can't delete it
[11:47] <ivo34> ivo@ivo-desktop:~$ sudo ifdown lxcbr0
[11:47] <ivo34> ifdown: interface lxcbr0 not configured
[11:47] <ivo34> of course it is not...the lxc container no longer exists
[11:48] <ivo34> how do I delete this please?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  did you try "the windows trick": reboot
[11:48] <ivo34> heh
[11:48] <ivo34> that was the first one
[11:48] <m1dnight_> k1l: I have solved it, it works almost perfectly now.
[11:49] <ivo34> after destroying
[11:49] <m1dnight_> Only thing now is, I have a full hd screen via hdm on the left. If I want to go to my laptop screen with my mouse my left external display "slides" along with it
[11:50] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  is there a bridge manager or something?
[11:50] <ivo34> I cannot find bridges in network admin ubuntu
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  i'm looking, maybe in /etc/resolvconf/ ...
[11:51] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  and brctl does not appear to have a command to bring a bridge down
[11:52] <ivo34> ???
[11:52] <ivo34> resolvconf?
[11:52] <ivo34> is not that the place where dns server addresses are stored?
[11:52] <jpds> ivo34: brctl show
[11:53] <jpds> ivo34: See what's attached to it
[11:53] <ivo34> bridge name	bridge id		STP enabled	interfaces
[11:53] <ivo34> lxcbr0		8000.000000000000	no		
[11:53] <ivo34> so what?
[11:53] <OerHeks> i thought networking part is in /var/lib/lxc/<containername>/config but if you used lxc-destroy your network should be clean. no?
[11:53] <ivo34> what with that?
[11:56] <ivo34> lxc/ empty folder
[11:56] <ivo34> OerHeks it is not
[11:57] <ivo34> after destroy I rebooted and lxcbr0 still there messing my network I have no access to internet this is a wireless connection
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  scroll down, is this sililar to what you have   http://askubuntu.com/questions/592150/disable-lxcbr0-bridge-from-network
[11:59] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  okay purging
[11:59] <ivo34> MonkeyDust and...rebooting
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  challenging... hope it works..
[12:07] <vaishu> Hi, I am having problem with installing kvm in Ubuntu. Can anyone help me with it?
[12:09] <clobrano> vaishu: what problem?
[12:10] <vaishu> clobrano: Here is a link of stackoverflow where I have posted my problem in detail: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31800682/kvm-installation-in-ubuntu
[12:12] <clobrano> vaishu: ok, I'll answer on stackoverflow then ;)
[12:12] <lmm> interface is really sample
[12:12] <vaishu> clobrano: Sure. :)
[12:14] <enok> Hello! Do i just state my question right here?
[12:15] <Marioll> hola
[12:15] <bittin> yeah
[12:15] <enok> awesome!
[12:15] <enok> This might not be true beginners stuff but here we go!
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> *drum roll*
[12:16] <enok> I have problems migrating my /boot to a separate partition
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> enok  keep your question in one line, it's easier to read and repeat
[12:16] <enok> OK.. i'll start over
[12:17] <ioria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition
[12:23] <enok> I'm migrating my /boot to a separate partition (sda7 ~100MB ext4). I'm doing it semi manually; copying files and running grub-install and update-grub as well as editing fstab. I don't get any errors while performing the migration and the system boots up. However when i boot up it complains about hd audio missing, wifi is not working and i bet a lot of other stuff is broken as well. I've been reading manuals, guides and tutorials for th
[12:24] <clobrano> vaishu: done
[12:24] <enok> hmm... text got cut of but the essential are all there
[12:26] <vaishu> clobrano: Thanks. I just replied
[12:26] <k1l> enok: 100MB is really small for /boot that will result in a overfull /boot while updateing kernels.
[12:27] <k1l> enok: make sure you got the kernel and matching headers installed so the modules can get build
[12:28] <enok> At what point is anything built in these steps?
[12:29] <enok> kll
[12:29] <TvL2386> anybody have a good experience with Mellanox 10G cards?
[12:29] <bazhang> try ##hardware TvL2386
[12:29] <TvL2386> bazhang, will do! ty
[12:30] <k1l> enok: did you copy everything fotm the old /boot to the new /boot?
[12:30] <k1l> *from
[12:30] <k1l> enok: make sure the proper /boot is mounted now. then make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[12:31] <enok> kll: yes, i have even migrated back to having /boot on my root partition using the same procedure as before and thus getting my machine working again
[12:36] <poorUser> hi people, i have serious connections problems, NM continously disconnecting/reconnectiong from the wifi, making impossible to do anything. I've already tried avahi-daemon bugfix. Does anyone know what could be?
[12:37] <enok> kll: i'm gonna start another machine on the side to run the chat so i can verify things while chatting
[12:45] <funkenstrahlen> I want to set an iptables rule, but I want to prevent having it set twice. How can I avoid that? I want to do it in a script, so manually checking is no option
[12:49] <impalle> funkenstrahlen: grep the output from "iptables -L" first and then add the rule if not exists already (should be a small script)
[12:54] <codepython777> I'm running ubuntu on macbook pro - 15.04 - and it wont connect to a wifi network it previously was connected to - any ideas?
[12:55] <John_AU> could it be hardware related? the wifi antenna usually runs up into the screen, they break after a while in some cases
[12:56] <mistralol> dont suppose anyone here would know how to add a customer build rule to a autotools makefile.in which is to use gperf to produce a cpp file?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> mistralol  please rephrase that question
[12:58] <mistralol> MonkeyDust: I have a project built with autotools. But in thet project one of the cpp files is generated code by the build. I am converting to autotools and need to generate the cpp file with gperf before the rest of the cpp files are compiled
[12:59]  * evidex waves
[12:59] <TJ-> mistralol: does this help? https://www.lrde.epita.fr/~akim/ccmp/doc/gnuprog2/Using-Gperf-with-the-GNU-Build-System.html
[13:00] <mistralol> TJ-: looks lik eit does thanks
[13:00] <mistralol> TJ-: umm actually nope :D
[13:01] <mistralol> TJ-: actually yes it does. I was close i was just missing the BUILT_SOURCES at th etop :D
[13:02] <codepython777> is there a good program that helps reset keyboard shortcuts?
[13:02] <codepython777> xmodmap - but with a nice gui?
[13:03] <TJ-> mistralol: nice when it's simple :)
[13:03] <mistralol> TJ-: I was stuck googling the wrong thing :/
[13:05] <TJ-> mistralol: maybe you should Duck... duck... go! :p
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> duckduckho <3
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> duckduckgo* <3
[13:06] <funkenstrahlen> impalle: is duplication actually a problem? its sad that iptables does not avoid dublication itself
[13:10] <codepython777> whats the keyboard shortcut to move between 4 workspaces in ubuntu when running on a macbook pro?
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> codepython777  ctrl-al arrow ?
[13:10] <codepython777> works, thanks
[13:11] <TJ-> funkenstrahlen: using "if ! iptables --check <rule-specification>; then iptables [--insert | --append] <rule-num> <rule-specification>; fi" is the usual way to dea with it
[13:11] <codepython777> MonkeyDust: what is a good way to reconfigure these?
[13:15] <impalle> funkenstrahlen: well the order in iptables is important, better create a script with your rules and flush the rules at the start
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> codepython777  open dconf-editor, ctrl-f, find switch-to-workspace
[13:19] <ppf> is there a tool to check an upstart service's rc.d setup?
[13:20] <TJ-> ppf: do you mean "update-rc.d" ?
[13:21] <ppf> can that acutally show the current status besides updating it?
[13:29] <sublimate> Hi guys. I'm trying to figure out the best way for a given (non-root) user to reload the nginx config (nginx is running as root) automatically (i.e. without having to enter a password), but not giving them access to things like stopping and starting nginx or any other commands. Any ideas?
[13:30] <sublimate> I tried setuid on a shell script, that didn't work.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:30] <sublimate> NOPASSWD in sudoers, as I understand it, would require me to give access to the entire "service" command or the entire "nginx" command.
[13:31] <TJ-> sublimate: create a custom script that does it, and give the user SUDO access only to that script with NOPASSWD
[13:31] <sublimate> TJ-: Good idea. Problem there is that someone could write to that file and change what it does
[13:32] <sublimate> I guess that I could make the file only read-execute for the given user
[13:33] <TJ-> sublimate: the custom script would be owned by root like any other system tool
[13:34] <warfront1> I'm attempting to mount a cifs (windows remote folder) that is just a straight ip
[13:35] <warfront1> However my command will only work if i specify a folder after the ip
[13:35] <warfront1> ie. i want //10.10.10.10 to work, but it will only work with //10.10.10.10/archives
[13:36] <warfront1> I just want to pull the top level directory on the share, but this issue is preventing me from doing so
[13:36] <TJ-> warfront1: surely you just use the root dir as in " //10.10.10.10/" ?
[13:37] <warfront1> I get a no such device error then @ TJ
[13:37] <warfront1> no such device or address *
[13:38] <TJ-> warfront1: maybe that's because there is no such share? As I recall every share has to have a path, with the admin share being $admin/
[13:38] <warfront1> my command is the following: sudo mount -t cifs //10.80.240.12 /home/name/mount/ -o username="fakeuser",password="FakePAssword"
[13:40] <warfront1> I'm opening it via a windows machine and I can see the top level clear as day
[13:40] <warfront1> the command will work, if I point it to a folder down in the directory
[13:40] <Pici> warfront1: Thats not a share, thats merely a listing of the shares. You must pick one of those shares to mount.
[13:45] <teward> is there any advantage to using fglrx-updates over fglrx in 14.04 ?
[13:45] <teward> if the fglrx one works fine
[13:48] <bishops> hi guys, have a problem: when I connect my laptop to an external desktop screen, whenever the laptop goes to standby or sleep mode it stops working if I try reactivating it. It just freezes. It may have to do with the screen saver because when I have caffeine app its fine, but it never goes to sleep then. but is there a way to have it worked normally?
[13:50] <Dante__> Hey
[13:52] <k1l_> teward: no
[13:52] <Dante__> hey?
[13:52] <k1l_> teward: afaik do them both get the same version
[13:53] <teward> k1l_: confirmed, they're identical versions.  thanks.
[14:00] <Dante__> Do anyone know PHP?
[14:00] <Pici> Dante__: people in ##php do
[14:01] <Dante__> There is a small doubt Pici, Can you help me in that?
[14:01] <Pici> Dante__: I do not know PHP.
[14:01] <Pici> you may need to register to join that channel though.
[14:01] <Pici> !register | Dante__
[14:02] <MIGGERS> Hi
[14:03] <Seratio> Hello, i'm searching for a solution to highlight text based on regex on SSH remote sessions. For example.. i want to login in to a router or switch which does not support colorized output and i want to have all ip adresses in red. Does anyone have a solution for this?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> Seratio  sounds like you need a script to do that... better ask in #bash
[14:04] <Seratio> ok ;) thanks
[14:04] <MIGGERS> Heil hitter :)
[14:08] <lmm> linux解压安装eclipse，运行，显示没有eclipse这个文件和目录怎么解决
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[14:10] <lmm> join#ubuntu-cn
[14:16] <Guest89077> i install eclipse by unarchive  eclipse.tar.gz,then i run eclipse,but there is no reponse and i warns there is no such file
[14:17] <julian-delphiki> Guest89077, do you have java installed?
[14:17] <julian-delphiki> !eclipse
[14:17] <julian-delphiki> hmm
[14:17] <Guest89077> yes
[14:17] <julian-delphiki> Guest89077, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-latest-eclipse-ubuntu-14-04/ i'd follow that
[14:18] <Guest89077> ok i look for a wile
[14:18] <Guest89077> a while
[14:24] <bishops> hi guys, have a problem: when I connect my laptop to an external desktop screen, whenever the laptop goes to standby or sleep mode it stops working if I try reactivating it. It just freezes. It may have to do with the screen saver because when I have caffeine app its fine, but it never goes to sleep then. but is there a way to have it worked normally?
[14:26] <DammitJim> has anyone set up hp's insight manager to monitor an ubuntu server?
[14:26] <sublimate> Thanks for the help TJ-
[14:26] <sublimate> Turns out you can put full commands in sudoers! So I just put 'service nginx reload' in there
[14:29] <OerHeks> DammitJim, better ask in #ubuntu-server i guess
[14:29] <DammitJim> oh, thanks!
[14:43] <Guest89077> it is not work
[14:44] <OerHeks> "it is not work" ??
[14:44] <Guest89077> yes
[14:44] <Guest89077> i unarchived the tar.gz
[14:45] <Guest89077> not create shortcut
[14:45] <Traumatizer> Hi guys. I can´t execute any files from the command line and have no clue why. Whenever I try to execute a file it just says: ´No such file or directory´ Could anyone help me? The pastebin contains details on error: http://pastebin.com/fafcKZEU
[14:46] <OerHeks> why do you download eclips from their site, eclipse is in our repos * (and supported)
[14:46] <OerHeks> Guest89077 ^^
[14:46] <Traumatizer> I am sure the file exists, and have also made it executable by doing chmod +X
[14:46] <Guest89077> yes
[14:46] <Guest89077> i like he
[14:46] <Guest89077> ao
[14:48] <rory> I have a directory "envs/test04/pillars/mytmoapp". The directory "envs" contains many other directories. How can I copy test04/pillars/mytmoapp into each of them? The command  "cp -rfv test04/pillars/mytmoapp */pillars/mytmoapp" doesn't do what I expected
[14:49] <rory> never mind I'm an idiot. Ommit the last trailing /mytmoapp
[14:49] <rory> Thanks rubber ducks
[14:51] <OerHeks> Traumatizer, what header is in that script, #!bin/bash or something?
[14:52] <zetheroo> Does Ubuntu share user data with Canonical and/or any other third party?
[14:52] <dbacc> hey, tried to install xubuntu on my samsung p560. right after lading the kernel the system crashed and just reboots. So I tried installing with acpi=off and noapic nolapic option. Then installation went trough but even now the system stays very unstable. It only boots after every 4th attempt or so. What can I do?
[14:52] <OerHeks> zetheroo, nope.
[14:53] <rory> zetheroo: It shares information on what packages you install if you manually install the "popularity-contest" package
[14:53] <jpds> zetheroo: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy
[14:53] <rory> zetheroo: but thats not a default
[14:53] <OerHeks> zetheroo, you can enable feedback
[14:53] <zetheroo> ok
[14:53] <zetheroo> but things like text typed or searches etc ...?
[14:53] <rory> Everything you type in the search bar is sent to Amazon for web search results
[14:53] <OerHeks> Only OEM install enables that by default.
[14:54] <LtL> Traumatizer: fyi- chmod need a lower case 'x' e.g. chmod -x file
[14:54] <jpds> zetheroo: Read the Privacy Policy
[14:54] <zetheroo> Windows 10 seems to be a data mining platform disguised as an OS ... and I am wondering if Canonical is doing anything like this ...
[14:54] <LtL> err +x
[14:54] <OerHeks> LtL t is executable ( see the * at the end of the file)
[14:54] <zetheroo> rory: any way to turn that off?
[14:55] <zetheroo> I mean the sending back of search input data
[14:55] <jpds> zetheroo: The privacy policy explains all of this, including how to turn it off
[14:55] <OerHeks> zetheroo, sure, in systemsettings > privacy settings
[14:55] <k1l_> zetheroo: yes, in the system settings on privacy settings
[14:55] <zetheroo> ok great!
[14:55] <TechMonger> how do I use rsync over ssh? i need a good example of the syntax
[14:55] <OerHeks> there is no God-mode on ubuntu , like windows 10 :-D
[14:56] <zetheroo> 👏
[14:56] <jpds> TechMonger: rsync -aPh folder you@server:
[14:58] <zetheroo> hmm, not seeing anything in that privacy document about Amazon and disabling search data being forwarded ....
[14:58] <jpds> zetheroo: "Searching in the dash"
[14:58] <OerHeks> those amazon servers are offline, AFAIK
[14:59] <zetheroo> ah ... so you have to turn off online search to also disable to sending back of info ...
[15:01] <k1l_> zetheroo: well, if you dont want your searchterms to be seen by others then others cant send you results.
[15:01] <zetheroo> why can't the online search feature be enabled along with disabling the automatic sending of search data? Is it because the search engines insist on it?
[15:01] <k1l_> zetheroo: just think about it: you want search results from X but dont want to tell X what you want to search?
[15:01] <jpds> zetheroo: How else do you send the search without sending data?
[15:02] <EriC^^> jpds: they don't have to save them..
[15:02] <jpds> EriC^^: That's not what he said
[15:02] <EriC^^> i think that's his point.. unless he's super thick or something
[15:03] <EriC^^> zetheroo: are you retarded?
[15:03] <zetheroo> no I understand that ... but it says here "Canonical will only use your search terms and IP address in accordance with this Privacy Policy." - but if the data is being sent to another entity then it's no longer Canonical's privacy policy we are talking about ... no!? -- that and the storing of my search data ...
[15:03] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[15:03] <zetheroo> EriC^^: I try not to be ... :P
[15:03] <k1l_> zetheroo: read the whole text.
[15:03] <EriC^^> i didn't think so :)
[15:04] <rory> zetheroo: Of course you have to turn off ofline search to disable sending data. How are you suggesting online results are returned *without* the search query being sent?
[15:04] <rory> zetheroo: In other news, everything you search for on Google is sent to Google's servers
[15:04] <jpds> My point exactly ↑
[15:04] <k1l_> sometimes i wonder what people think how the internet works....
[15:05] <rory> probably best not to start throwing terms like "retarded" around though.
[15:05] <zetheroo> yeah ok ... this is in the dash though
[15:05] <zetheroo> not in a browser
[15:05] <EriC^^> rory: context my friend
[15:05] <rory> zetheroo: You can disable it, if you don't want your queries sent and to have online results (the two are the same thing obviously)
[15:05] <EriC^^> alas, the problem to begin with, but whatever
[15:05] <zetheroo> everything I search for is being relayed online ...
[15:05] <rory> zetheroo: everything you're typing RIGHT NOW is being sent to my server in France
[15:06] <k1l_> zetheroo: if you dont want online search results in the dash, because you dont want the data to be sent (which is fine) then turn it off in the privacy settings.
[15:06] <k1l_> zetheroo: so where is the issue with turning it off in the privacy settings?
[15:06] <zetheroo> like if I am searching for a document on my PC ... that's being relayed to online destinations as well ... but ok, I can disable the entire Internet seach function of the dash ...
[15:07] <OerHeks> zetheroo, what makes you think ubuntu uploads your documents ?
[15:07] <zetheroo> not the documents
[15:07] <zetheroo> the names of the documents
[15:07] <tgm4883> that's not what he said
[15:07] <k1l_> zetheroo: you can search the other dash-scopes aswell, that are only offline searches like for apps or documents etc.. just press super+a
[15:07] <tgm4883> but I think it's a misunderstanding about how it all works
[15:07] <tgm4883> IIRC, there is only one scope that sends the data back to canonical
[15:08] <zetheroo> It would be nice to have a button in the dash with which one can switch the Internet search function off and on
[15:08] <tgm4883> I thought it was removed from the default scope
[15:08] <k1l_> tgm4883: yep right. its only the first scope. which is labeled "search computer and online"
[15:08] <zetheroo> k1l_: aha ... ok
[15:09] <tgm4883> k1l_: further, isn't it only sent to Canonical, and then the request is set to 3rd party (eg. amazon), amazon sends it back to canonical then it goes back to the user?
[15:09] <k1l_> zetheroo: you have that switch. in the privacy settings. and if you use the other scopes its pure offline search
[15:09] <zetheroo> "super" being the "Windows" key?
[15:09] <zetheroo>  k1l_: yes, but in the dash it would be much more handy to have the button
[15:09] <zetheroo> for me anyhow
[15:10] <k1l_> tgm4883: yes.
[15:10] <tgm4883> then what the heck is the problem?
[15:10] <zetheroo> tgm4883: so it's all sent via Canonical?
[15:10] <k1l_> tgm4883: the fear that data gets send online at all.
[15:10] <k1l_> too much FUD is making people get scared.
[15:10] <jpds> zetheroo: Read. The. Policy.
[15:11] <zetheroo> k1l_: no that's not really the issue ...
[15:11] <k1l_> zetheroo: it is
[15:11] <tgm4883> zetheroo: yes, I believe canonical proxies all of that
[15:11] <zetheroo> but seems it's sorted ... ;)
[15:11] <zetheroo> ok
[15:11] <mmazing> what is the name of the software that pops up when you take a screenshot in ubuntu, asking what you want to do, etc (open with file, copy to clipboard, save to file ... ) ?
[15:11] <mmazing> errr, "open with program"
[15:11] <k1l_> mmazing: should be gnome-screenshot
[15:12] <mmazing> k1l_, thanks
[15:13] <rory> Is there any graphical diff tool similar to Meld, but that can more intelligently diff json?
[15:15] <zetheroo> on http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop it states under the "Secure" section: "With a built-in firewall and virus protection software, Ubuntu is one of the most secure operating systems around." - Is this by default? and what are they called?
[15:16] <k1l_> firewall is ufw
[15:16] <squinty> might be refering to clamav
[15:17] <zetheroo> ok, but I take it neither of these are configurable from the System Settings panel ... or maybe my version of Ubuntu is too behind the times ... ?
[15:17] <baizon> squinty: no need for clamav, there is apparmor. It's much better then clamav
[15:17] <zetheroo> 14.04 that is ...
[15:17] <jpds> zetheroo: No, it's a bit more complex
[15:18] <jpds> zetheroo: "sudo ufw enable" # done
[15:18] <Cyb3rn3t> why the ubuntu 14, and 15 is soo slow ?
[15:18] <baizon> zetheroo: you just need to enable ufw. U can use Gufw to do it via gui. For Apparmor you dont need to do anything, its preconfigured
[15:18] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: what do you mean "slow"?
[15:19] <Cyb3rn3t> I am using ubuntu 15 on a latop AMD A8-4500m cpu,
[15:19] <Cyb3rn3t> and the firefox and chrome browsers esting the CPU, whil I jus scrolling the facebook
[15:19] <Cyb3rn3t> or 9gag :D
[15:19] <zetheroo> ok, any reason why these tools are not more configurable and noticeable (like having a GUI and some kind of visual reqresentation of their existence on the Desktop)? Does Canonical not want users messing with it?
[15:20] <Cyb3rn3t> same laptop, with win7 and firefox is much better
[15:20] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: graphics driver could be a problem. Try disabling hardware acceleration
[15:20] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: because firefox tries to use graphics driver to accelerate and it fails
[15:20] <jpds> zetheroo: Not everyone wants a firewall by default
[15:20] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: to disable ?
[15:20] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: yes
[15:20] <jpds> zetheroo: And those that do, likely want to tweak it to their needs
[15:21] <zetheroo> jpds: right, but it's advertised as a key feature of the OS
[15:21] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: but what is I would like to watch youtube videos ?
[15:21] <baizon> zetheroo: yes, if you like to customize it, then install and do it
[15:21] <baizon> zetheroo: but most users dont care and its fine that way imho
[15:21] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: it will work, just more cpu intensive tehn
[15:21] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: without accelration the video rendered by CPU
[15:22] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: :D great!
[15:22] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: yes, else you can try to configure the right drivers
[15:22] <Cyb3rn3t> I tried a couple of driver
[15:22] <zetheroo> well I don't know - I think the Desktop is made for the pretty casual user and I think they would appreciate actually seeing some form of representation of a Firewall and AV instead of being told "well it's in there somewhere and if you want it enabled you just have to open the terminal and ...." ... and then they are looking out the window ... :D
[15:22] <Cyb3rn3t> fglrx, and offical nvidia drivers
[15:22] <Cyb3rn3t> with new MESA, etc....
[15:22] <jpds> zetheroo: Those people likely don't need a firewall
[15:22] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: you have an amd graphics card, so no need for nvidia drivers
[15:23] <jpds> zetheroo: After all, nothing's listening on any ports by default
[15:23] <baizon> zetheroo: but microsoft is equal with his firewall, you dont even notice it
[15:23] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: you're right, I have a desktop pc, with nvidia, and the problem is the same
[15:23] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: and I tried driver on that pc as well
[15:23] <zetheroo> baizon: not from what I have experienced in getting non-Linux users into Linux (mostly Ubuntu) for year. They ask about security... and here it states that Ubunut comes with Firewall and AV ... then you start Ubuntu and are looking for it (as a new User) and you see nothing at all to suggest that either exist
[15:24] <zetheroo> for yearS*
[15:24] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: why is wierd, the windows*I hate*, is using hw acceleration, and the browsing is smooth
[15:24] <OerHeks> zetheroo, all guides i know talk about "install gufw as a gui for ufw firewall"
[15:24] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: smooth scrollig is disablen on every situation
[15:25] <baizon> zetheroo: i meet many many people, no one asked me ever. Just once, "no antivir for linux needed, wow"
[15:25] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: thats the main problem https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=894372
[15:25] <zetheroo> baizon: right, but then you go to the Ubuntu website and look what it says ... both Firewall and AV are included ...
[15:25] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: it works pretty well on my intel machine to be honest
[15:25] <zetheroo> so this is not consistent
[15:25] <jpds> zetheroo: It is included
[15:25] <baizon> zetheroo: it is?
[15:26] <zetheroo> and the new User (mostly in business) looks at me quizzically ....
[15:26] <zetheroo> :D
[15:26] <zetheroo> well either you need AV or not ...
[15:26] <jpds> zetheroo: iptables is built into Linux kernel
[15:26] <zetheroo> and Ubuntu says its there and this is why Ubuntu is Secure
[15:26] <OerHeks> build-in antivirus is apparmor.
[15:26] <k1l_> zetheroo: there was not mentioned:  a highly configurarable firewall where you need 20h of config settings to get it running is included.
[15:26] <jpds> zetheroo: Is it configured by default? No
[15:26] <zetheroo> this denotes that without AV it's less secure
[15:27] <jpds> OerHeks / baizon: AppArmor is not an anti-virus, but there we go
[15:27] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: woww, bad news
[15:27] <baizon> jpds: i know, its much much better then av
[15:27] <EriC^^> zetheroo: i think you need to learn more about ubuntu and linux in general
[15:27] <OerHeks> jpds, windows users want to hear antivirus instead of systemprotection
[15:27] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: but the same with chrome, and chromium
[15:27] <jpds> zetheroo: It's not less secure without an AV
[15:27] <zetheroo> All I am saying is that if there is a built in AV and FW it would be nice for Canonical to make some sort of graphical representation of it's existence ... would be nice ... ;)
[15:28] <jpds> zetheroo: sudo apt-get install gufw
[15:28] <jpds> zetheroo: Is that really THAT HARD?
[15:28] <k1l_> zetheroo: stop
[15:28] <EriC^^> !clamav | zetheroo
[15:29] <baizon> zetheroo: why, if you want it install it (what jpds just posted), else run it. Why else care. Nobody cares about that shitty Windows Defender thing in the background
[15:29] <k1l_> zetheroo: you are arguing like that "i want a grafical highly setup firewall so everyone needs to have that as standard".
[15:29] <zetheroo> jpds: "With a built-in firewall and virus protection software, Ubuntu is one of the most secure operating systems around." - This denotes that without these softwares it would be less secure. If AV is not needed why is it there?
[15:29] <squinty> zetheroo,  might want to read  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware   but these days, afaik, av protection is primarily used when interacting with windows based systems (although there is increasing reports of apple osx malware etc on the rise these days too)
[15:29] <EriC^^> !av | zetheroo
[15:29] <EriC^^> it depends on the use case
[15:29] <baizon> zetheroo: and again youre wrong. Virus protection doesn't mean antivirus
[15:29] <prasoonatwork> i have ubuntu 1504 and libre office installed ... when ever i use calc and selct more than 50 rows and try to do something then the entire system hangs.. and never recovers back even if i have kept it over 24 hours. what acna be done??
[15:29] <k1l_> zetheroo: because the windows users are used to have it
[15:30] <zetheroo> baizon:  ok... what does it mean then?
[15:30] <tgm4883> zetheroo: this is all off topic, if you'd like to continue this discussion please go to the right channel
[15:30] <tgm4883> !ot
[15:30] <jpds> zetheroo: OK, stop this right now
[15:30] <jpds> zetheroo: And actually go and do some research
[15:30] <OerHeks> #ubuntu-discuss is the place for this FUD
[15:30] <baizon> zetheroo: a pointless discussion :)
[15:30] <zetheroo> why are people telling me to stop?
[15:30] <squinty> baizon,  and lose the swearing please. read the channel rules.  family channel
[15:30] <zetheroo> this is really wierd
[15:30] <baizon> squinty: yep, im sorry :(
[15:30] <EriC^^> zetheroo: cause you don't know about the whole picture of everything
[15:30] <zetheroo> man ... touchy crowd this ...
[15:31] <zetheroo> EriC^^: yeah ... no duh ... that might be why people ask about things ... :P
[15:31] <EriC^^> read about how linux distro's work, how the programs work, how they're built made etc. you'll know why
[15:31] <baizon> zetheroo: not really, we just have much more experience i think
[15:31] <k1l_> zetheroo: because you keep repeating the same things, no matter what facts are given.
[15:31] <squinty> zetheroo,  not really.  do some more reading and decide for yourself which is applicable to your needs
[15:31] <Plone> is this the right channel to ask about setting up or configuring SMB on Ubuntu Server 15.04?
[15:31] <jpds> zetheroo: You're just pulling things off a website, and making a fuzz about nothing
[15:31] <zetheroo> EriC^^: no, that's not the point!
[15:31] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: the main prblem with my ubuntu, is that everything is slow.., let me explain qiuck: I am using older laptops(single core) with and SSD and ubuntu. To using the unity is funny, so I am using XFCE :D Thins are still slow, and boot time is slow as well :( With an ubuntu 10.04 everything was quick and usabe. But now ubuntu 15.04 on the AMD A8-4500m,8Gb DDR3,SSD is unusable! This is so sad for a ubuntu fan :(
[15:32] <k1l_> lets focus on real ubuntu support again. zetheroo gets now some time to think about the security setup he wants, ubuntu got as standard and what the mainstream user can make a use of it
[15:32] <Plone> agreed
[15:32]  * Plone hopes to get some ubuntu support :)
[15:33] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: well, then check your system i guess. I mean i have an ssd and everything is working pretty fast. Maybe your ssd got some issues
[15:33] <OerHeks> Plone just ask, wait and see
[15:33] <Plone> I setup ubuntu 15.04 on vmware as an smb server and it works
[15:33] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: so i mean maybe you have an hardware issue
[15:33] <Plone> however, osx file transfers start fine then slow down
[15:33] <Plone> osx has fine transfer with osx server using smb
[15:34] <Plone> but my ubuntu server slows down mid way through an up|download
[15:34] <naqi> hi
[15:34] <Plone> any ideas why?
[15:34] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: the raw tests are preaty impressive. hdparm>350MB/sec reading and it constans with DiskUtiles
[15:34] <naqi> i have a rasberry ip
[15:34] <naqi> pi
[15:34] <Plone> i ate rasberry pie
[15:34] <naqi> what should i do with it
[15:35] <baizon> naqi: there is an extra distro for a rpi
[15:35]  * Plone gets no smb love
[15:35] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: on three different HW? and if I am using win7, the HW problem disappearing ? :/ Not sure...
[15:36] <baizon> Plone: sorry, i have no idea in that matter. So I can't help you
[15:36] <Plone> baizon: thanks
[15:36] <Plone> anyone have good link for SMB configuration/troubleshooting?
[15:36] <Cyb3rn3t> what is the faster browser on Ubuntu ? whit the smallest CPU usage ?
[15:36] <OerHeks> Plone, socket options = TCP_NODELAY in the socket option section of the smb.conf file (/etc/samba/smb.conf) should speed up to 30%
[15:36] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: have you tried a different DE then?
[15:37] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: KDE or Xfce?
[15:37] <Plone> oerheks: it goes fine for a while then slows down
[15:37] <Plone> oerheks: that a tcp_nodelay issue?
[15:37] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: LXDE, XFCE sure
[15:37] <squinty> !samba
[15:37] <OerHeks> Plone, maybe that value is now standard, i cannot see it as i do not use smb
[15:38] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: the results were the same?
[15:38] <Plone> oerheks: k...thanks
[15:40] <whit> Hello :)
[15:40] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: yes
[15:41] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: and on older ubuntu versions is more faster everything
[15:41] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: until 14
[15:41] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: try a different distro then maybe?
[15:41] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: 14 started to eat my hardware
[15:41] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: or try debugging
[15:42] <prasoonatwork> Good Evening Everyone ,
[15:42] <prasoonatwork> I have ubuntu 1504 on my laptop {intel core 2 duo and 4 gb Ram} with libre office ...
[15:42] <prasoonatwork> when ever i use calc and selct more than 50 rows with 16 colums of data and try to do formating then the entire system hangs..
[15:42] <prasoonatwork> and never recovers back ; i have even kept it over 24 hours. any help ??
[15:42] <evidex> Cyb3rn3t: Smallest CPU usage? Probably elinks :P
[15:42] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: i can't really tell what it could be, because all my systems are working fine (used 14.04, 14.10 and 15.04 now)
[15:42] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: I am not a new linux user, so I love Ubuntu, thats why I am here
[15:43] <baizon> prasoonatwork: try upgrading libreoffice?
[15:43] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: I dont't want to change the ubuntu :D
[15:44] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: if I cant debug this, I will start usin lynx for browsing
[15:44] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: i understand you, then debugging :D I had to install gstreamer-vaapi, beacause my firefox were slow. With this package i have hw acc again and everything works fine
[15:44] <prasoonatwork> baizon: i have uninstalled and reinstalled to the latest update too ... but in vain
[15:44] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: there are alternatives, midori for example
[15:44] <baizon> prasoonatwork: 4.4.4?
[15:44] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: thank you for your attention, I will try it
[15:45] <baizon> Cyb3rn3t: try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox_tweaks#Force_enable_hardware_acceleration
[15:45] <jswensen> I just install 14.04 and found out that it doesn’t have any of the 1394 drivers included with the default kernel (at least there isn’t a /lib/module/blah/kernel/drivers/ieee1394 directory).
[15:45] <prasoonatwork> baizon: sorry where do i check that
[15:46] <jswensen> Is there a different kernel package that has these included? Or, do I have to build my own kernel?
[15:46] <baizon> prasoonatwork: which ubuntu are you using?
[15:46] <prasoonatwork> 15.04
[15:46] <prasoonatwork> baizon: 15.04
[15:47] <baizon> prasoonatwork: http://askubuntu.com/questions/564610/how-to-install-libreoffice-4-4-x-in-ubuntu
[15:49] <prasoonatwork> baizon: i will try that and come back
[15:49] <baizon> jswensen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firewire-core&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[15:49] <prasoonatwork> baizon: thank you
[15:51] <satrap> my dual boot option is not coming up automatically whenever i turn on my HP laptop.I have to press f9 and then choose ubuntu.Why is that so?If i do not press f9 windows boots.My boot priority is not changing.How to solve it?
[15:51] <EriC^^> satrap: you have a hard coded bios i'd guess
[15:51] <prasoonatwork> baizon: since i already have libre office where do i check the version number ?? and for the info i had reinstalled it 2 days before only so i trust it would have been the latest.
[15:52] <EriC^^> same here, you can fix it though by fooling the bios into booting ubuntu instead of windows
[15:52] <prasoonatwork> baizon: any ways i will try what you have sugested
[15:52] <baizon> prasoonatwork: Help->About (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VGOTX3V0qO0/Uu-VN8m9jJI/AAAAAAAARSk/NkdmZwSXlO8/s1600/libreoffice-4.2-trusty.png)
[15:54] <satrap> what does hard coded mean?
[15:54] <EriC^^> satrap: it means it won't boot anything but the windows efi file even if you change the boot manager, it'll reset back
[15:55] <jswensen> baizon: Thanks. I still can’t quite figure out why that package isn’t showing up in aptitude. I have trusty-updates turned on in my apt sources.
[15:56] <baizon> jswensen: sudo aptitude update?
[15:56] <jswensen> already did that (twice just for obsessive compulsive reasons)
[15:56] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: something is happednd
[15:57] <satrap> So,please explain me how to fix it,stepwise
[15:57] <Cyb3rn3t> baizon: my about:support table said 1/1 accelrated windows
[15:57] <Plone> getting better smb transfer from osx with some tweaks
[15:58] <Plone> upload still not as good as afp
[15:58] <EriC^^> satrap: are you booted in a live usb?
[15:58] <Plone> download is as good as afp
[15:58] <EriC^^> satrap: *in ubuntu
[15:58] <Plone> not sure why
[15:58] <fowl> Ubuntu audio is skippi g all the time!!
[15:59] <fowl> 15.04 is it quite broken?
[16:00] <fowl> Ignore me, like always
[16:00] <Plone> trying more tweaks
[16:00] <compdoc> ./ignore fowl
[16:00] <fowl> Ill ask again in an hour
[16:01] <satrap> yes, i had done while installing ubuntu.
[16:01] <EriC^^> satrap: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:01] <fowl> Ubuntu audo skips
[16:02] <Plone> download pretty solid
[16:02] <Plone> upload still wonky
[16:02] <satrap> What will it do?
[16:02] <EriC^^> install pastebinit so you can upload pastes
[16:02] <k1l_> fowl: what ecxactly? is it a codec issue? do other players or sound sources work?
[16:02] <k1l_> !details | fowl
[16:03] <EriC^^> o/ daftykins
[16:03] <daftykins> hallo :)
[16:03] <EriC^^> :)
[16:03] <fowl> k1l_ no it happens from vlc, mplayer, youtube, any flash video
[16:03] <fowl> Everywhere there's audio its skippinh
[16:04] <satrap>  done.then?
[16:04] <EriC^^> satrap: type sudo parted -l | pastebinit and paste the link here
[16:04] <earlPhone> I partitioned tabled my drive as gpt, created an EFI 300 mb partition at the beginning.
[16:04] <OerHeks> fowl, audio what source, what format?
[16:05] <earlPhone> Where do i mount bootloader
[16:05] <fowl> OerHeks speakers?
[16:05] <EriC^^> earlPhone: do you mean in the installer?
[16:05] <earlPhone> Yes, I'm at the installer
[16:05] <k1l_> fowl: what hardware is it for audio?
[16:05] <earlPhone> Where it asks for device for boot loader install
[16:06] <EriC^^> earlPhone: select the drive that has the efi partition, such as /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc. and double click on the efi partition and select efi
[16:06] <OerHeks> fowl, source = internetradio/cd/dvd/mp3/ogg/flac ?
[16:06] <earlPhone> Do I put the entire drive or just the efi partition
[16:06] <k1l_> fowl: are you on 14.04 with the 3.13 kernel? (uname -a tells about the kernel)
[16:06] <Plone> hmm…there is a #samba channel
[16:06]  * Plone goes to check it out
[16:07] <earlPhone> Done EriC^^ I had already partitioned and formatted in gparted
[16:08] <satrap> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12014460/
[16:08] <EriC^^> earlPhone: select the entire drive
[16:09] <EriC^^> satrap: type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[16:09] <EriC^^> that will mount your install under /mnt
[16:10] <earlPhone> Got it! I have the efi, an ext4 mounted as / "root" and a 8 gb swap
[16:10] <earlPhone> Am I good?
[16:10] <satrap> how will it help me?what exactly will it do?
[16:10] <EriC^^> yeah, sounds good
[16:10] <EriC^^> satrap: you'll see :)
[16:10] <EriC^^> actually don't do that
[16:10] <EriC^^> lol, i'm very used to doing this from a live usb
[16:10] <EriC^^> nevermind
[16:11] <EriC^^> satrap: type sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[16:13] <satrap> I hope it doesn't tamper with windows or my secondary memory...
[16:13] <EriC^^> satrap: it will list the entries in the uefi boot manager, is secure boot enabled?
[16:14] <satrap> No
[16:14] <EriC^^> ok
[16:16] <beefman> hi.  i have a new install and an old install.  old install asks for my ssh passphrase once per login in a gui box.  new install asks in the terminal every time, and doesn't forward.  What am i missing in the new install?
[16:16] <satrap> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12014499/
[16:16] <satrap> i got this
[16:17] <nadar>    
[16:17] <EriC^^> satrap: ok, type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}
[16:19] <satrap> What will this command do?
[16:19] <EriC^^> it'll make a backup copy of the main .efi file
[16:19] <satrap> Why is a backup needed now?
[16:20] <cdk> hello i am new to linux at the moment i am using backbox and was wondering how  access the software store?
[16:20] <daftykins> one thing i would never do is question a backup being made
[16:20] <EriC^^> so you have an idea, we're going to replace the windows .efi file with ubuntu's .efi file and name it as windows, so your bios boots ubuntu instead, and we'll have grub boot the .efi.backup file to load windows from grub
[16:20] <daftykins> cdk: this channel is called #ubuntu because it's support for Ubuntu - backbox is not Ubuntu and thus you can't ask for help on it here, sorry.
[16:21] <cdk> is the a channel for backbox?
[16:21] <daftykins> !backbox
[16:21] <daftykins> apparently so
[16:22] <cdk> ok thank you
[16:22] <satrap> I m a bit skeptical.i hope its not risky
[16:23] <daftykins> satrap: backups risky? that's not very sensible thinking
[16:24] <Nectar> Is there any software which aloes you to easily enable and disable flash from the desktop. I saw something once... ?
[16:24] <earlPhone> Nah, being concerned is ok
[16:25] <loa> Nectar, you can setup your browser to load flash on demand
[16:25] <tsimonq2> What is the difference between sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? Should I run both when updating my computer?
[16:25] <loa> Nectar, demand by you ofcourse.
[16:25] <EriC^^> !dist-upgrade | tsimonq2
[16:25] <OerHeks> !dist-upgrade
[16:25] <EriC^^> tsimonq2: dist-upgrade will upgrade the kernel upgrade won't
[16:26] <EriC^^> and it could remove or add packages to satisfy dependencies of upgrades, upgrade doesn't have that privilege
[16:26] <tsimonq2> EriC^^: When updating my computer, it is a wise idea to run both?
[16:26] <k1l_> for latest ubuntus we have apt and apt-get. on apt its named "apt full-upgrade" which sounds a bit better imho
[16:26] <EriC^^> tsimonq2: yeah, just run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , upgrade is implied in it
[16:27] <k1l_> tsimonq2: yes. you will need that to get new kernels etc.
[16:27] <satrap> how will i grub boot?
[16:27] <tsimonq2> EriC^^: Does it do harm to run both? Or is it just impractical...
[16:27] <OerHeks> E: Invalid operation full-upgrade ...
[16:27] <OerHeks> :-(
[16:27] <daftykins> OerHeks: with apt, not apt-get ?
[16:27] <EriC^^> tsimonq2: just impractical
[16:27] <k1l_> OerHeks: apt vs apt-get
[16:27] <tsimonq2> EriC^^: Ok, thanks!
[16:28] <tsimonq2> Have a nice day!
[16:28] <OerHeks> k1l_, oh, my bad
[16:28] <vok`> Hi, I deleted /usr/share/blender and now Blender won't start. I'm thinking it's hanging on not having that directory any longer (/usr/share/blender). How do I restore the directory?
[16:28] <EriC^^> tsimonq2: if you run upgrade first it might mention which packages were held back, and then you could run dist-upgrade, personally i just dist-upgrade never had an issue
[16:28] <k1l_> tsimonq2: the difference from apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade is historically. today we use apt-get a different way and now we need both commands
[16:29] <EriC^^> satrap: grub will boot by its own, by your bootmanager
[16:29] <EriC^^> vok`: you could try to --reinstall the package
[16:30] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall blender
[16:30] <vok`> EriC^^, I've tried that and it didn't work.
[16:30] <EriC^^> vok`: try to remove it without purging then reinstall maybe
[16:30] <vok`> EriC^^, ok, I'll try that.
[16:31] <satrap> so,my system would restart i guess after this command.sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi{,.backup}
[16:31] <EriC^^> satrap: no
[16:31] <vok`> EriC^^, it didn't work.
[16:31] <EriC^^> all that does is copy a file and name it bootx64.efi.backup
[16:32] <EriC^^> vok`: type dpkg -L blender | grep /usr/share/blender
[16:32] <satrap> did it.after that?
[16:32] <vok`> EriC^^, it returned nothing.
[16:33] <EriC^^> vok`: then blender doesn't provide that file
[16:33] <vok`> EriC^^, and the files still aren't there.
[16:33] <vok`> Ah.
[16:33] <EriC^^> !find blender
[16:33] <EriC^^> might be in blender-data maybe
[16:33] <vok`> Oh, maybe it's blender-data?
[16:33] <vok`> Yeah, I'll try that.
[16:33] <vok`> EriC^^, that bot is cool too. Wow.
[16:34] <TJ-> vok`: EriC^^ "dpkg -S /us/share/blender"
[16:34] <TJ-> vok`: EriC^^ "dpkg -S /usr/share/blender"  --- typos!
[16:35] <EriC^^> satrap: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}
[16:35] <vok`> EriC^^, TJ-: Thanks guys!
[16:36] <satrap> did it.then??
[16:36] <EriC^^> satrap: type ls -R /boot/efi/EFI | pastebinit
[16:38] <satrap> ls -R /boot/efi/EFI | pastebinit
[16:38] <satrap> ls: cannot access /boot/efi/EFI: Permission denied
[16:38] <satrap> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[16:38] <satrap> it says this...:-(
[16:38] <EriC^^> that's odd
[16:38] <earlPhone> L s not I s
[16:39] <earlPhone> Just in case
[16:39] <EriC^^> satrap: type ls -ld /boot/efi/EFI
[16:39] <satrap> what will this do?
[16:39] <EriC^^> list the directory's permissions etc.
[16:41] <anon212230> Just wondering, are there any rules as to age when you are contributing to Ubuntu? I am a teen and I would like to do some QA test cases, but I don't know if I could...
[16:42] <satrap> ls -ld /boot/efi/EFI
[16:42] <earlPhone> If there are I would think it dumb :p not sure however
[16:42] <satrap> ls: cannot access /boot/efi/EFI: Permission denied
[16:42] <satrap> it shows this..
[16:42] <anon212230> Can anybody confirm?
[16:42] <tgm4883> anon212230: no there are not
[16:42] <hexou> hi, does anyone happen to know if there is some working version of f.lux for ubuntu desktop 15?
[16:43] <TJ-> !coc | anon212230: Anyone is welcome to contribute
[16:43] <anon212230> tgm4883: How about for joining a team. I still have to go to school, but I have a lot of free time...
[16:43] <cfhowlett> anon212230, I know of teens who have contributed
[16:43] <tgm4883> anon212230: for qa testing though (I'm assuming ISOs ) You should check out #ubuntu-release
[16:43] <earlPhone> Ubuntu runs linux, check flux's site and see if there is a linux
[16:44] <daftykins> earlPhone: wat
[16:44] <anon212230> tgm4883: So I should inquire there?
[16:44] <tgm4883> anon212230: yes, that is where the ISO testing stuff usually happens
[16:44] <earlPhone> @ hexou
[16:44] <anon212230> Ok, thanks
[16:44] <cfhowlett> !contribute | anon212230
[16:45] <earlPhone> Hexou it says flux is free on linux, did it work on an old version of Ubuntu?
[16:46] <hexou> earlPhone: there is, but it seems it seems something in 15 broke it and there is no repo for 15. it was fine in 14
[16:46] <earlPhone> Odd...
[16:48] <hexou> earlPhone: indeed! can't seem to find much info anywhere though. i may just switch back to 14 as its a fresh install anyway and life is worse without f.lux haha
[16:49] <earlPhone> Whatever works. I would think there would be some workaround but it may not be worth it to you
[16:50] <earlPhone> eric^^ i got ubuntu installed. Now when I boot the computer its a blue windows screem that asks if i want to boot to windows 10 or windows 8
[16:51] <hexou> aye, i'll take another look into it in a bit, thanks tho!
[16:51] <earlPhone> Grub>  prompt disappeared
[16:51] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok
[16:51] <earlPhone> You know how to set up efi stuff?
[16:51] <EriC^^> you asked in the morning right?
[16:51] <earlPhone> In the old days at boot it'd say
[16:52] <earlPhone> Ubuntu
[16:52] <earlPhone> Windows
[16:52] <earlPhone> And you'd be able to select
[16:52] <daftykins> yes a boot menu :P
[16:52] <earlPhone> But this is efi not bios
[16:52] <daftykins> mmhmm
[16:53] <EriC^^> earlPhone: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:53] <earlPhone> Oh, I'm on windows 10 atm
[16:53] <earlPhone> Lemme see if i can get to ubuntu. LiveUSB or the install
[16:53] <earlPhone> ?
[16:54] <asantos3> hi
[16:54] <daftykins> EriC^^: is this one of those situations where the EFI device has to be changed to the hard disk so GRUB shows up, instead of being sat on 'windows boot manager' ? :)
[16:54] <earlPhone> I made my own efi part on external HD
[16:55] <asantos3> so I'm getting fps drops following an update, I'm running Xubuntu 15.04 with an Radeon HD 7670M. Does someone have a similar problem or something?
[16:55] <earlPhone> Booted to liveUSb. Want me to try that command?
[16:56] <daftykins> asantos3: in what?
[16:56] <daftykins> asantos3: with which driver?
[16:56] <asantos3> daftykins, open source
[16:56] <EriC^^> daftykins: yeah he has too hdd's i think and 2 efi's and it's using the windows one right now
[16:56] <EriC^^> *two
[16:56] <EriC^^> earlPhone: yeah
[16:57] <daftykins> EriC^^: ah ok :> will keep my beak out!
[16:57] <earlPhone> nc: getaddrinfo: temporary failure in name resolution
[16:59] <earlPhone> I ran it again to no avail
[16:59] <daftykins> your DNS is broken
[16:59] <daftykins> so you're either not connected to the network, or your config is wrong
[17:00] <earlPhone> My bad i have to log in to wifi everytime
[17:00] <asantos3> I updated some packages and i'm getting huge fps drops in games, I didn't updated any drivers or relevant stuff I think, here's the screenshot of the update history http://i.imgur.com/We4llgE.png The problems occurred in the updates of 04:17. Can anyone help :(
[17:00] <earlPhone> http://termbin.com/kay9
[17:01] <earlPhone> Seagate being the ubuntu hd
[17:01] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:02] <earlPhone> sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[17:02] <earlPhone> Use netcat
[17:03] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[17:03] <techkamar> hi der
[17:03] <techkamar> i installed GNOME in ubuntu
[17:03] <techkamar> now i dont require it
[17:03] <techkamar> so i changed it to UNITY
[17:03] <techkamar> but my lockscreen at stratup is still the same as that of GNOME
[17:04] <techkamar> how can i get back my old lock screen
[17:04] <techkamar> plzzz help
[17:04] <daftykins> find a list of gnome packages and purge them, then reinstall the unity ones to override
[17:04] <earlPhone> http://termbin.com/drkj
[17:04] <k1l_> techkamar: make sure lightdm is the dm that is used
[17:05] <k1l_> techkamar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:06] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok type sudo mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt
[17:07] <earlPhone> That last part
[17:07] <earlPhone> .  / mnt or /mnt
[17:07] <earlPhone> Sorry mobile formatting
[17:08] <EriC^^> /mnt
[17:08] <EriC^^> without a space
[17:08] <earlPhone> Done
[17:09] <earlPhone> Didn't give any feedback
[17:09] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:10] <EriC^^> earlPhone: type the whole line from for i .... til done
[17:12] <earlPhone> Mount: mount point /mnt/devpts does not exist
[17:13] <earlPhone> Derp
[17:13] <earlPhone> My bad. Ok.
[17:13] <earlPhone> No feedback, again
[17:13] <EriC^^> ok cool
[17:13] <EriC^^> type sudo chroot /mnt
[17:14] <earlPhone> Dome
[17:14] <earlPhone> Done
[17:14] <EriC^^> ok, type grub-install
[17:14] <EriC^^> wait
[17:14] <EriC^^> type mount -a
[17:15] <earlPhone> I don't want grub interfering with windows
[17:15] <EriC^^> it wont
[17:15] <earlPhone> Mount -a done
[17:15] <earlPhone> Install grub?
[17:15] <EriC^^> ok, type grub-install
[17:16] <earlPhone> Installing for x86_64-efi platform
[17:16] <earlPhone> Grub-install: error: cannot find efi directory
[17:16] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[17:17] <EriC^^> i thought something was fishy why it wasn't in the bootmanager already
[17:17] <earlPhone> An error is cool? :p
[17:17] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:18] <earlPhone> Termbin.com/ypdh
[17:18] <EriC^^> lol no, i meant cool as in aha it makes sense now :P
[17:18] <EriC^^> and can be fixed easily
[17:18] <earlPhone> Great! Easy is best.
[17:19] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type ls -l /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:19] <earlPhone> Ls -L?
[17:19] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:20] <earlPhone> Termbin.com/u5ba
[17:20] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type mkdir /boot/efi/EFI
[17:21] <techkamar> hi der
[17:21] <earlPhone> Done
[17:21] <EriC^^> type mount -a
[17:21] <EriC^^> nevermind
[17:21] <earlPhone> Done
[17:21] <EriC^^> sorry
[17:21] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:21] <earlPhone> Oh?
[17:22] <EriC^^> ok, type mount | pastebinit
[17:23] <earlPhone> Had to install
[17:23] <EriC^^> right
[17:23] <earlPhone> Ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/12014820/
[17:24] <EriC^^> oh, it's using the windows efi
[17:24] <EriC^^> type umount /dev/sdb1
[17:25] <earlPhone> Umount: /boot/efi: not mounted
[17:26] <EriC^^> try umount /boot/efi
[17:26] <Koning> Anyone here that uses another terminal than the standard ubuntu terminal?
[17:26] <EriC^^> actually nevermind
[17:26] <earlPhone> Same message
[17:26] <EriC^^> earlPhone: type blkid | pastebinit
[17:27] <earlPhone> Http://paste.ubuntu.com/12014841
[17:28] <EriC^^> earlPhone: type nano /etc/fstab
[17:29] <EriC^^> and replace the C0DA-C15D with 8684-7CCC
[17:30] <earlPhone> Ok
[17:31] <earlPhone> Control+x exit --- asks if i want to save modified buffer
[17:31] <dbkaplun> Hey, what CLI editor do you guys use?
[17:31] <EriC^^> earlPhone: press ctrl+o
[17:32] <earlPhone> File name to write: /etc/fstab
[17:32] <Koning> vim
[17:32] <earlPhone> Some options below it
[17:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:32] <EriC^^> earlPhone: press enter
[17:32] <Koning> vim is the best cli editor
[17:33] <earlPhone> Wrote 13 lines.
[17:33] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ook
[17:33] <EriC^^> earlPhone: now type exit
[17:33] <Koning> Anyone here who has great understanding of window managers?
[17:34] <earlPhone> Alright
[17:34] <dbkaplun> Anyone use slap CLI editor? What do you think of it?
[17:34] <Koning> never heard of slap before :p
[17:35] <s2013> how can you check what processes are taking how much memory
[17:35] <dbkaplun> https://github.com/slap-editor/slap
[17:35] <s2013> we have 0 free memory in our server
[17:35] <s2013> that doesnt seem normal at all
[17:36] <EriC^^> s2013: top
[17:36] <_0xfubar> top
[17:36] <Koning> htop is better than top
[17:36] <Koning> like much better
[17:36] <_0xfubar> stop is even better. :3
[17:36] <s2013> hmm
[17:36] <s2013> something is taken up 100% of our CPU
[17:37] <Koning> open htop
[17:37] <s2013> well.. that something is ruby but
[17:37] <s2013> not found Koning
[17:37] <Koning> htop automatically sorts on cpu usage
[17:37] <Koning> sudo apt-get install htop
[17:37] <s2013> this one is sorting on usage too
[17:37] <Koning> htop has a much better interface, believe you me
[17:37] <s2013> i dont think i have root access
[17:37] <earlPhone> Whew eric^^
[17:38] <_0xfubar> Eric^^: did u try stop? xD
[17:38] <EriC^^> i ran "stop", i dont recommend it
[17:38] <_0xfubar> haha
[17:38] <earlPhone> Lol
[17:38] <EriC^^> unless you want your desktop to reset
[17:38] <Koning> pffff
[17:38] <_0xfubar> that was a damn joke
[17:38] <Koning> I want to know what it is xD
[17:38] <_0xfubar> just try
[17:38] <Koning> killall compiz
[17:38] <_0xfubar> killall -9
[17:39] <earlPhone> Still at root prompt; just ran nano /etc/fstab
[17:39] <_0xfubar> linux101 ~ don't try everything u see on internet
[17:39] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type exit
[17:39] <Koning> echo "exit" > .bashrc [DO NOT TRY THIS]
[17:39] <earlPhone> Exited, back at root prompt?
[17:39] <s2013> our cpu usage is over 100%
[17:39] <EriC^^> _0xfubar: i don't, it seemed harmless and this is ubuntu afterall
[17:39] <s2013> but memory is like 30-40%
[17:39] <_0xfubar> xD
[17:39] <s2013> but when i do free -m it says 0 free
[17:39] <_0xfubar> don't use chrome. xD
[17:39] <s2013> Mem:          6144       6144          0          2          0       6144
[17:40] <_0xfubar> clear
[17:40] <EriC^^> earlPhone: you should be at the ubuntu@ubuntu prompt
[17:40] <earlPhone> Good now.
[17:40] <earlPhone> Ok
[17:40] <_0xfubar> any cpp guys?
[17:41] <Koning> I'm a c++ master
[17:42] <EriC^^> earlPhone: type sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[17:42] <_0xfubar> haha good to know.
[17:42] <Koning> int *p;
[17:42] <s2013> anyone?
[17:42] <Koning> cout >> p;
[17:42] <Koning> profit
[17:42] <_0xfubar> haha
[17:42] <Koning> std::cout of course
[17:42] <_0xfubar> the most efficient
[17:42] <earlPhone> Umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
[17:42] <_0xfubar> and the most risky lang ever xD
[17:43] <Koning> C is much worse xd
[17:43] <_0xfubar> haha yeah.
[17:43] <Koning> you have to alocate memory for every variable :p
[17:43] <Koning> and it has weird syntax for that
[17:43] <_0xfubar> what?
[17:43] <Koning> let me google
[17:43] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type mount | pastebinit
[17:43] <_0xfubar> lol what r u talkin about?
[17:43] <earlPhone> I only know basic java but here I am being an idiot xD
[17:44] <_0xfubar> Java is good
[17:44] <_0xfubar> unless u're doing sth. xD
[17:44] <Koning> SomeObject *myObject = [[SomeObject alloc] init]; //This is the C memory alloc shit
[17:44] <earlPhone> Have to... Install pastebinit
[17:44] <earlPhone> Again...? Odd.
[17:44] <earlPhone> One sec
[17:44] <Koning> I hate brackets when it's not for arrays
[17:44] <_0xfubar> haha
[17:45] <_0xfubar> so u solve?
[17:45] <earlPhone> paste.ubuntu.com/12014940/
[17:45] <Koning> what do you mean?
[17:45] <_0xfubar> algorithmic problem solving.
[17:46] <Koning> depends :p
[17:46] <_0xfubar> duh
[17:46] <Koning> show me the source
[17:46] <_0xfubar> haha no
[17:47] <_0xfubar> that's not what I meant
[17:47] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, press the unmount button in the filemanager
[17:47] <earlPhone> Uh
[17:47] <earlPhone> Where?
[17:48] <Koning> some people call me a master of code validation
[17:48] <EriC^^> open the file manager from the launcher and press on the eject button near the installation's partition
[17:48] <Koning> because most of my algorithms can't break
[17:48] <_0xfubar> haha
[17:48] <_0xfubar> yet u don't solve?
[17:49] <_0xfubar> Eggs went anon xD
[17:49] <_0xfubar> why Eggs?
[17:49] <Pici> Koning, _0xfubar: This channel is intended to be for Ubuntu support only. Perhaps you two could move to pm or another, more on-topic, channel for your conversation.
[17:49] <earlPhone> .  /media/ubuntu/OS
[17:49] <earlPhone> Unmount?
[17:49] <_0xfubar> oh sorry.
[17:49] <Koning> Soooo ubuntu, does anyone know if it's good/bad practice to replace compiz with something else?
[17:49] <Koning> compiz lags on my desktop
[17:50] <EriC^^> earlPhone: yeah
[17:50] <earlPhone> Ok
[17:50] <_0xfubar> compiz flickers on mine.
[17:50] <D3RGPS31> I'm having an issue w/ AppArmor; any time I attempt to run the parser against anything that requires abstractions/base, I get http://pastebin.com/WY8upNUS :x
[17:51] <_0xfubar> unity sucks.
[17:51] <EriC^^> crap
[17:52] <Pici> Koning: iirc, you need to use it if you intend to continue using unity.  Other desktop environments do not have that limitation and let you use whatever window manager you choose.
[17:52] <_0xfubar> y?
[17:52] <EriC^^> just noticed a 400gb transfer stopped cause of that stop command
[17:52] <Pici> wii _0xfubar
[17:52] <_0xfubar> oh I'm sorry EriC^^
[17:52] <EriC^^> it's ok
[17:52] <Koning> Pici: Do you know if anything will happen with compiz in 15.10?
[17:53] <Pici> Koning: I'm afraid I'm not too up to date with any Ubuntu desktop things these days, sorry.
[17:54] <EriC^^> earlPhone: did you successfully unmount it from the file manager?
[17:54] <earlPhone> Yes
[17:54] <Koning> earlPhone, what is your problem?
[17:55] <earlPhone> Many many things koning xD
[17:55] <_0xfubar> xD
[17:55] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type mount | pastebinit one more time
[17:55] <Koning> have you tried turning it off and on?
[17:55] <_0xfubar> no matter what, never leave linux k?
[17:55] <_0xfubar> haha Koning
[17:55] <earlPhone> Why i am here guys lol
[17:56] <_0xfubar> why oldboot..
[17:56] <earlPhone> Mount | pastebinit
[17:56] <earlPhone> Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] timed out
[17:57] <EriC^^> earlPhone: try mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:57] <earlPhone> Termbin.com/mf0w
[17:58] <EriC^^> earlPhone: are you sure it's unmounted from the file manager?
[17:58] <earlPhone> Right click
[17:58] <earlPhone> Says mount
[17:59] <earlPhone> I did unmount it pretty sure
[17:59] <EriC^^> does it have an eject icon next to it?
[17:59] <EriC^^> ok
[17:59] <earlPhone> No dont see that
[17:59] <EriC^^> ok, try to restart the live usb
[18:00] <earlPhone> So... Exit exerything and boot back into it
[18:00] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:01] <earlPhone> I see text
[18:01] <earlPhone> It seems stuck >. <
[18:02] <EriC^^> what text?
[18:02] <earlPhone> White text, last line is accounts-daemon.service
[18:03] <EriC^^> ok, try rebooting it
[18:03] <earlPhone> Force?
[18:03] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:04] <EriC^^> press ctrl+alt+del
[18:04] <earlPhone> Everytime i boot to usb i have to change blasted boot nomodeset
[18:04] <earlPhone> Hang on
[18:05] <earlPhone> Back in
[18:06] <EriC^^> ok
[18:06] <EriC^^> type sudo mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt
[18:06] <earlPhone> Done
[18:07] <EriC^^> type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:08] <earlPhone> Ok
[18:09] <EriC^^> earlPhone: done?
[18:09] <earlPhone> Yes
[18:10] <EriC^^> type sudo chroot /mnt
[18:10] <earlPhone> Done
[18:10] <EriC^^> type mount -a
[18:10] <EriC^^> then mount | pastebinit
[18:10] <EriC^^> remember the wifi..
[18:11] <earlPhone> Lol
[18:11] <EriC^^> haha
[18:11] <earlPhone> Paste.ubuntu.com/12015117/
[18:13] <EriC^^> why the heck is it still mounting the windows efi O.o
[18:13] <earlPhone> I have secure boot off, and fastboot off
[18:13] <EriC^^> type umount /dev/sdb1
[18:14] <earlPhone> I haven't messed with CSM, it still boots in uefi mode
[18:14] <lol768> I can't seem to get any audio to play tonight (had no issues in the past). I'm using 14.04.2 - would anyone be able to provide some troubleshooting steps I can try? Some more info: https://gist.github.com/lol768/c39153b9b2b37758a854
[18:14] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[18:15] <earlPhone> Failed invalid argument
[18:15] <earlPhone> Next? Ok
[18:15] <earlPhone> Paste.ubuntu.com/12015144/
[18:15] <lol768> oh fun, it was muted. Now I feel stupid.
[18:16] <earlPhone> Easy solution though lol768
[18:16] <lol768> Yup! I should've tried that before anything else..
[18:16] <lol768> I did look in alsamixer but must've not noticed
[18:17] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type ls -l /boot/efi/EFI | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:18] <EriC^^> earlPhone: there's nothing in /etc/fstab, i've no clue why it's mounting the windows efi under /boot/efi, it's pretty odd
[18:18] <BenBE> I'm having trouble with X11 on Thinkpad W520 using intel+nouveau. Notebooks boots normally, but lightdm cannot bind display. doing a simple "service lightdm restart" will start the GUI normally. Worked until recently without having to restart lightdm after boot.
[18:19] <earlPhone> Ls: cannot access /boot/efi/EFI: no such file or directory
[18:19] <earlPhone> Use netcat
[18:19] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, try umount /boot/efi
[18:20] <earlPhone> Ls -l /boot/efi/ | nc termbin.com 9999 produces termbin.com/6hg1
[18:21] <earlPhone> Umount /boot/efi done; no feedback
[18:21] <EriC^^> ok, type mount | pastebinit
[18:22] <earlPhone> Failed to contact server
[18:22] <earlPhone> Argh
[18:22] <EriC^^> try mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:22] <earlPhone> Termbin.com/texu
[18:22] <BluesKaj> BenBE:  which ubuntu version?
[18:23] <EriC^^> earlPhone: try umount /boot/efi again
[18:23] <EriC^^> it unmounted the ubuntu one, the windows one is still mounted
[18:23] <earlPhone> umount: /boot/efi: not mounted
[18:24] <EriC^^> type cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:25] <BluesKaj> BenBE:  ithe command has changed to, sudo systemctl start lightdm
[18:26] <BluesKaj> since systemd on 15.04
[18:26] <earlPhone> Termbin.com/x3p0
[18:26] <earlPhone> Lol 3PO
[18:27] <earlPhone> ... Going crazy here :p
[18:27] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, type mount /dev/sdd1 /boot/efi
[18:28] <earlPhone> Done
[18:28] <EriC^^> ok type mkdir -p /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[18:29] <earlPhone> Done
[18:29] <EriC^^> type grub-install
[18:30] <earlPhone> Installing for x86_64-efi platform
[18:30] <earlPhone> Installation finished. No error reported
[18:30] <EriC^^> ok, type update-grub
[18:30] <earlPhone> Yay, success at something!
[18:31] <pbx> when my mouse pointer becomes invisible (but still works) how might i retrieve it?
[18:31] <pbx> this happened on wake from sleep
[18:31] <earlPhone> Found image... (Some text) etc etc
[18:31] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, did it find windows bootmanager?
[18:31] <cortexman> is using docker on ubuntu really this tortuous? https://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/
[18:31] <cortexman> i wanted something dead simple
[18:32] <earlPhone> Foynd windows boot manager on /dev/sdb1@/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[18:32] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok
[18:32] <pbx> nm, going to the login screen fixed it
[18:32] <earlPhone> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware config
[18:32] <Qantourisc> When does /etc/init/mounted-dev start ? Or how to start it manually ?
[18:32] <EriC^^> type efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:32] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ^
[18:33] <earlPhone> Termbin.com/vl76
[18:34] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, ubuntu is first in the boot order, if you don't have the hdd plugged in it should boot windows automatically
[18:34] <earlPhone> Really...?
[18:34] <earlPhone> Amazing
[18:35] <EriC^^> yeah, type exit
[18:35] <EriC^^> then try to restart
[18:35] <earlPhone> It should be fixed then
[18:35] <earlPhone> Will do
[18:35] <earlPhone> Restarted
[18:35] <Qantourisc> Any good docs on upstart ?
[18:36] <earlPhone> Met with screen: choose an os
[18:36] <earlPhone> Windows 10
[18:36] <earlPhone> Windows 8
[18:36] <EriC^^> earlPhone: ok, press the esc button you used earlier
[18:36] <EriC^^> and choose ubuntu
[18:36] <ubuntu-mate> hello world
[18:36] <artois> hello, world
[18:36] <earlPhone> Ok
[18:36] <ubuntu-mate> world, hello
[18:36] <EriC^^> i think you have a hard coded bios, it resets the entries to boot windows first
[18:37] <earlPhone> Oh hey there's just one "ubuntu" that time
[18:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:37] <cryptodan_laptop> Or the CMOS Battery is weak and its not saving the changes made to the BIOS
[18:37] <EriC^^> the workaround is to switch the efi files to fool the bios into booting ubuntu instead of windows
[18:38] <earlPhone> Looks like it booted to ubuntu that time.
[18:38] <earlPhone> I'm not much a fan of the choose an os screen
[18:38] <earlPhone> Anyway to fix that?
[18:38] <EriC^^> the problem is that if we switch the files, if you remove the hdd, it wouldn't know..
[18:38] <earlPhone> I'd rather go steaight to windows (if ext hd is unplugged)
[18:38] <nbusrone> Brightness reset when I restart the pc , ubuntu 14.04 using nivida driver.How do I manually set them ?
[18:38] <EriC^^> yeah as i said above
[18:39] <earlPhone> Let me just test it. Shut down, unplugging usb hd
[18:39] <EriC^^> earlPhone: i think if we can copy the boot entry of windows and set it 3rd to boot
[18:39] <earlPhone> Powering on... And...
[18:40] <earlPhone> Choose an OS: Windows 10 or Windows 8
[18:40] <earlPhone> Same screen... Huh.
[18:40] <Awesomecase> I'm having a problem on ubuntu with chrome where everything I type in an address is gives me dns error (dns name not resolved, bad config , no internet, etc.) I've tried using google dns and that hasn't worked and removing my resolv.conf and recreating the symbolic link don't work at all
[18:40] <EriC^^> earlPhone: yeah
[18:40] <Awesomecase> Eventually it will resolve but only after refreshing a ton
[18:40] <EriC^^> earlPhone: are you able to set the order from the bios by any chance?
[18:41] <earlPhone> I can boot to that
[18:41] <earlPhone> Hold on
[18:41] <EriC^^> if we switch the windows file with the ubuntu one, if the hdd is unplugged then you'd get a grub rescue>
[18:41] <earlPhone> Uefi firmware settings
[18:42] <earlPhone> == bios i assume
[18:42] <earlPhone> Anyway, im in that
[18:42] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:42] <earlPhone> Boot > boot option priorities
[18:42] <earlPhone> Windows BM first
[18:42] <earlPhone> Ubuntu is second
[18:43] <EriC^^> put ubuntu first
[18:43] <EriC^^> you're pretty lucky
[18:43] <earlPhone> Why? (Am i lucky)
[18:43] <lshkn> Hi people!
[18:44] <EriC^^> earlPhone: cause usually there isn't an option to switch the order from the bios
[18:44] <daftykins> lshkn: welcome
[18:44] <mdoge> I have a sata disk connected to a linux machine through a sata->usb adapter and want to install a distro on this sata disk. what is the best way to do that without usb disks?
[18:44] <EriC^^> you have to switch the files usually
[18:45] <daftykins> mdoge: why are you doing it this way?
[18:45] <earlPhone> Lucky me then :). Also: in "save and exit" there is a "boot override" section
[18:45] <mdoge> daftykins: I dont have any usb pendrives
[18:45] <earlPhone> Which, lists windows first
[18:45] <mdoge> daftykins: just wondering how i'm going to get ubuntu on that disk ;P
[18:45] <earlPhone> And ubuntu second
[18:45] <EriC^^> earlPhone: and switching the files won't work this time if you want to unplug the hdd, so all in all it's a happy ending
[18:45] <daftykins> mdoge: ugh. no blank DVDs either huh?
[18:45] <mdoge> daftykins: hehe no
[18:45] <bbence> Hi! I just noticed that all my files from /Downloads disappeared! What can I do?
[18:45] <daftykins> mdoge: for the sake of a few dollars, euros, pounds - is it really that tall an order to acquire a flash drive?
[18:45] <daftykins> i mean it's 2015...
[18:46] <earlPhone> Mdoge: have fun :p installing to ext hd is what I am doing lol
[18:46] <daftykins> they're practically coming in cereal boxes
[18:46] <EriC^^> bbence: check the trash first
[18:46] <bbence> @bbence There's nothing in my Trash
[18:46] <mdoge> daftykins: I can `dd` the .iso on there, and probably boot fine from that disk ... but then it wouldnt be able to install itself on that disk from a live image, because well, the live image is running from that disk.
[18:46] <bbence> And when I search for my files, nothing shows up
[18:46] <mdoge> daftykins: I have pendrives, enough. Just not on this location. Do you know of another way to get ubuntu on it?
[18:46] <earlPhone> Does 'boot override' do anything?
[18:47] <daftykins> mdoge: you could add the ISO to boot from your host, then partition and install to the flash drive and ensure you select to put grub on the /dev/sdX that represents the USB attached disk
[18:47] <EriC^^> earlPhone: in what context?
[18:47] <daftykins> mdoge: i think you're making life more complicated through circumstances which can be avoided though
[18:47] <EriC^^> in the boot options you mentioned earlier?
[18:47] <earlPhone> Yes
[18:47] <earlPhone> In save and exit
[18:47] <EriC^^> i guess so
[18:47] <mdoge> daftykins: making life complicated is my middle name
[18:47] <bbence> And there's a lot of free space, so they probably got deleted somehow. How can I get them back?
[18:47] <General-Nemo> Hello, i have a problem on firefox on Ubuntu that my title do not appear, for exemple on Facebook : http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/360147problmetitre.png. This problem does not appear on Chrome : http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/736689chrome.png. I have tried many solution, like reinitialise the navigator, delete all addons, delete firefox from ubuntu, etc. but nothing work. This problem occur also on the offline wiki c
[18:47] <earlPhone> There is boot override, and windows is first
[18:47] <General-Nemo> lient called "Kiwix".
[18:47] <daftykins> mdoge: right, but coming here with that attitude drags others into it...
[18:48] <EriC^^> earlPhone: i think it means to override that it loads windows first
[18:48] <onegone> h
[18:48] <daftykins> mdoge: anyway as i've mentioned would work, go forth and experiment!
[18:48] <mdoge> :)
[18:48] <earlPhone> So leave that part alone then eric^^?
[18:50] <onegone> nh
[18:50] <EriC^^> earlPhone: no, set ubuntu first in the order, then windows
[18:51] <earlPhone> On override. Ok.
[18:51] <earlPhone> Woah. Can't
[18:51] <EriC^^> why not?
[18:52] <earlPhone> Pressed enter on ubuntu and rather than switching it actually, loaded ubuntu
[18:52] <earlPhone> Like I was booting to it from the uefi settings
[18:52] <EriC^^> can you move it to the top? check the options at the bottom
[18:52] <nbusrone> Brightness reset when I restart the pc , ubuntu 14.04 using nivida driver.How do I manually set them ?
[18:53] <earlPhone> There's "launch efi shell from filesystem device"
[18:53] <EriC^^> earlPhone: oh
[18:53] <earlPhone> That's all that is below
[18:55] <EriC^^> earlPhone: i guess you have to use the uefi manager to boot ubuntu
[18:55] <onegone> jn
[18:56] <earlPhone> Does that mean anything exstrenuous
[18:56] <EdwardL> Hello. Many years ago I intalled Ubuntu with Xubuntu for my mother. A few years ago I upgraded Ubuntu to 14.04, but I during that I may have removed some "accelerative features"... What I mean by that is that YouTube (and quite a bit internet) lags like hell, some programs take their time launching, and the desktop background colors look like they are in 16-bit color mode. Can anyone help me restore the speed and colors?
[18:56] <EriC^^> you have to boot it as you've been booting it
[18:57] <EriC^^> so that when you unplug the hdd you can still boot windows
[18:57] <earlPhone> Oh boy. Well, that's better than nothing
[18:57] <daftykins> EdwardL: what graphics hardware + driver is in use?
[18:57] <EriC^^> earlPhone: yeah
[18:57] <earlPhone> Some miraculous wizardry you've done just to get it to this point :) thank you.
[18:58] <earlPhone> Maybe I'll find a work around later in time, but for now it is stable.
[18:58] <EriC^^> one way of it working would be to have a separate /boot partition in the windows hdd so you always get grub, but that sounds like a mess and ubuntu wouldn't be a standalone install anymore
[18:58] <earlPhone> I read somewhere, about having two efis
[18:59] <daftykins> EdwardL: are you near this system or is it remote?
[18:59] <earlPhone> The windows one, and creating my own on the external hd
[18:59] <EdwardL> daftykins: I'm near it. Just took its time... Running lshw -c video....
[18:59] <EriC^^> earlPhone: if you only rarely will remove the ubuntu hdd, you could switch the files, and when you want to remove the ext hdd you would have to manually boot windows from the uefi manager like you're doing now for ubuntu
[19:00] <EriC^^> earlPhone: that's what you have right now, a windows efi on the windows hdd, and an ubuntu efi on the ext hdd
[19:00] <earlPhone> I use windows more and want the usb hd to be portable
[19:00] <EriC^^> the problem is that the bios is hard coded to only boot the windows efi file
[19:00] <earlPhone> Ahhhhh
[19:00] <earlPhone> A bios problem
[19:00] <EriC^^> yeah mine's the same
[19:01] <daftykins> maybe you have a nice EFI update available that stops it being Windows centric :)
[19:01] <earlPhone> In time, then. I was confused though, because both windows boot option and ubuntu boot option listed the "Kingston" drive thing
[19:02] <EriC^^> i've switched the efi files for it to work here, hp laptop
[19:02] <earlPhone> My external drive is a seagate. Idk
[19:02] <EdwardL> daftykins:  product: RV350 [Radeon 9550/9600/X1050 Series]   vendo AMD/ATI   width: 32 bits    clock: 66MHz   capabilities: agp agp-3.0 pm vga_conroller bus_master cap_list   configuration: latancy=66 mingnt=8
[19:03] <daftykins> EdwardL: ok and if you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[19:04] <daftykins> EdwardL: also any ideas what you would've upgraded from? 10.04 or 12.04 ?
[19:04] <EdwardL> daftykins: Possibly 12...
[19:04] <earlPhone> Eric^^ both efi's seem to be on my windows os drive
[19:05] <EriC^^> earlPhone: what do you mean?
[19:05] <EriC^^> i mean why do you say that?
[19:05] <earlPhone> I'm in windows 10, running a program EasyUEFI
[19:05] <EriC^^> it might be left over from the previous install
[19:05] <EriC^^> you still have a EFI\ubuntu dir there i'd guess
[19:06] <EdwardL> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/WSYKYHz7
[19:06] <earlPhone> File paths are \EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[19:06] <earlPhone> And \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
[19:07] <EriC^^> it shouldn't be so
[19:07] <daftykins> EdwardL: also a pastebin of /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists? (it shouldn't do, really)
[19:07] <EriC^^> this is the bootmgr list http://termbin.com/vl76
[19:08] <EriC^^> earlPhone: the numbers before are related to the disk it's on
[19:08] <EdwardL> daftykins: No xorg.conf. There is xorg.conf.failsafe
[19:08] <daftykins> EdwardL: nah that's ok
[19:09] <daftykins> EdwardL: ok that looks pretty clear, it's currently using the driver FBDEV as fglrx is no longer supported on the 14.04 kernel with such an old legacy card. first step purge all fglrx packages (sudo apt-get purge fglrx* ) reboot and give me another /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:09] <earlPhone> Odd...
[19:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:09] <earlPhone> I can change the grub to shim
[19:10] <earlPhone> Should I?
[19:10] <EriC^^> nah
[19:11] <Qantourisc> What is the best way to debug initctl start not working ?
[19:11] <earlPhone> Man... I loved bios x.x
[19:11] <earlPhone> The ease of use! Oh baby!
[19:11] <earlPhone> Lol
[19:12] <EdwardL> daftykins: Purging.....
[19:12] <daftykins> earlPhone: the times they are a-changin', i find EFI fine more often than not, just some manufacturers are rubbish
[19:12] <earlPhone> It's just the transition period sucks.
[19:13] <daftykins> no we've had it for years, transition is over :)
[19:13] <daftykins> and as i say you might have updates available for your system?
[19:14] <earlPhone> Yes, probably
[19:15] <EdwardL> daftykins: Purged. Rebooting.
[19:17] <Tracker> hi is there a problem with finnish updates not found on server?
[19:18] <wileee> Tracker, We would not know really. Are you missing one?
[19:19] <wileee> Tracker, Sounds like a release eol, what is your?
[19:19] <wileee> yours*
[19:21] <Tracker> I have 3 different but all finnish
[19:21] <daftykins> Tracker: i think wileee means tell us which ubuntu version you are using
[19:21] <wileee> Tracker, You know what release are eol?
[19:21] <daftykins> lsb_release -d / cat /etc/issue
[19:21] <wileee> xactly
[19:22] <earlPhone> Thank you again eriC^^. I'm going to take a break off my phone and play around in my fancy ubuntu!
[19:22] <EdwardL> daftykins: I think the icons shrunk... :p
[19:22] <daftykins> EdwardL: perhaps that means the resolution is back to a proper one
[19:23] <grio-work> Anyone done a Windows 10/15.04 conbination yet? I'm looking at that project tonight, and not exactly excited.
[19:23] <daftykins> grio-work: doubt it'll be a problem at all
[19:23] <Tracker> 14.04.3 this and  15.10.0 and 15.04.14 finnish server and workstation I can tell which are missing or miss spellet in repo
[19:23] <daftykins> just ensure you boot both as legacy or both as EFI to install
[19:23] <wileee> grio-work, ubuntu and windows of all release, no biggie.
[19:23] <daftykins> Tracker: sorry you're way too hard to understand.
[19:23] <grio-work> daftykins, suspect it's the same as Windows 8.1, but I had issues getting that stable on this particular hardware. I think it's a hardware issue I'm dealing with, but I'll know more tonight.
[19:24] <Tracker> skipped one version http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/mount_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.6_amd64.deb unable to dl
[19:24] <daftykins> grio-work: always worth putting the latest BIOS on for your system first
[19:24] <Tracker> I have 3 different system
[19:24] <Tracker> updating packages bsdutils libblkid-dev libblkid1 libmount1 libuuid1 mount util-linux uuid-dev
[19:24] <Tracker>   uuid-runtime fails not found
[19:25] <EdwardL> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/bNYZfmc1
[19:25] <grio-work> daftykins, already done. System begins booting, both Ubuntu and Windows, then reboots. I suspect motherboard, but both have been installed almost 2 years, so I figure a drive and a reinstall are about due.
[19:25] <daftykins> EdwardL: much better, the proper 'radeon' driver is now in use and things should work better :)
[19:26] <daftykins> EdwardL: give youtube a try now, perhaps
[19:26] <OerHeks> Tracker, maybe that mirror is not synced, try the 'main' in sources and try again?
[19:26] <Tracker> thinking the same thing...
[19:26] <Nikesh> My team mate told me to run this, but it seems to be misformatted, can anyone see where? $ sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite” install go-golang
[19:27] <EdwardL> daftykins: So far so good. Still a little laggy on the scrolling...
[19:28] <rainbowwarrior> hello , I am using an msi ge60 2qd apache laptop with windows 10 and was wondering does ubuntu 15.04 support windows 10 yet please or 15.10 if i have too ? thank you
[19:28] <grio-work> rainbowwarrior, no.
[19:28] <AndroidHacker> what do u mean support?
[19:28] <AndroidHacker> u just install it along side of windows
[19:28] <EdwardL> daftykins: Actually, just went to something in HD and it is really lagging behind.
[19:28] <wileee> rainbowwarrior, W10 has the same bcd boot since vista, see uefi if needed, grub bots bcd and uefi
[19:28] <wileee> boots*
[19:28] <rainbowwarrior> grio-work ok thank yo
[19:28] <OerHeks> Wubi is not supported on win10, but regular side by side is :-)
[19:29] <AndroidHacker> right
[19:29] <daftykins> EdwardL: hmm, it is likely game over for that graphics card
[19:29] <AndroidHacker> rainbowwarrior, just dual boot
[19:29] <daftykins> EdwardL: a clean browser profile wouldn't hurt to make doubly sure
[19:29] <rainbowwarrior> OerHeks, thank you and that is what i meant sorry AndroidHacker
[19:30] <AndroidHacker> no problemo
[19:30] <wileee> grio-work, Do not answer here per your problems.
[19:30] <EdwardL> daftykins: As in clear cache, cookies, and other offline data?
[19:30] <wileee> other users looking for help grio-work
[19:31] <daftykins> EdwardL: just log into the guest session and try out firefox there - you could also try putting chromium on
[19:31] <grio-work> wileee, Windows 10 doesn't support Ubuntu 15.04. It was a simple question, albeit a little facetious.
[19:31] <AndroidHacker> EdwardL, goto terminal and run "firefox -ProfileManager"
[19:32] <daftykins> EdwardL: essentially you might have worse luck with either browser on HTML5 only, or flash player based youtube
[19:32] <AndroidHacker> EdwardL, that will bring up the firefox profiles and you can delete/make new ones
[19:32] <wileee> grio-work, You read it backwards, still if you have no good answer do not say anything please.
[19:32] <EdwardL> AndroidHacker: There was only one, default, profile.
[19:32] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: it'll dualboot fine, but remember what i said about killer wireless if your machine has it.
[19:32] <Guest27332> hi...
[19:33] <wileee> grio-work, uefi will boot ubuntu by the way.
[19:33] <AndroidHacker> EdwardL, yea, when daftykins said to make a fresh one thats what he meant.. u can delete that one and create a new one
[19:33] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, thank you and yes i remember , its not a problem as i have a spare asus wifi adaptor :)
[19:33] <grio-work> wileee, I normally wouldn't have. I couldn't resist. I genuinely do apologize for my snark.
[19:33] <wileee> grio-work, cool, no biggie, we all do it. ;)
[19:34] <AndroidHacker> daftykins, whats the issue with killer wireless?
[19:34] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: just boot a live session and see if it works first of all.
[19:34] <AndroidHacker> i have killer and havent seen any problems
[19:34] <daftykins> AndroidHacker: well i'm not sure on the status of ath10k is all, i know it didn't work previously
[19:34] <AndroidHacker> oh
[19:34] <AndroidHacker> mine is using ath9k
[19:34] <EdwardL> AndroidHacker: I think there are still some things that my mother would like to keep, like some logins, site prefs (don't save password) and form history.
[19:35] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, will do thank you :)
[19:35] <AndroidHacker> rainbowwarrior, one more thing
[19:35] <grio-work> wileee, Yeah, I'm aware. I'm thinking my PSU or R9 290 is tired from coin mining. I'll know more tonight. And yeah, I'm booting it UEFI going forward.
[19:35] <rainbowwarrior> AndroidHacker, yes ?
[19:35] <daftykins> EdwardL: yeah i always suggest creating by the side and not just nuking the existing, that's why i think guest session would've been the easiest approach
[19:35] <AndroidHacker> if u boot to live session and it doesnt boot properly, add "nomodeset" to the command line parameters, install nivida driver and reboot
[19:35] <AndroidHacker> it should be fine then
[19:35] <Guest63502> how to I get ubuntu to recognize my internal sata 3 drive? I built a new pc and the drive shows up in the bios but it is a 2tb ntfs or fat partitioned drive and I can't open and view it
[19:36] <daftykins> well you can't install nvidia in a live session ;)
[19:36] <AndroidHacker> rainbowwarrior, i also have msi laptop and i had to do thart
[19:36] <AndroidHacker> no i meant after u install
[19:36] <AndroidHacker> bad wording
[19:36] <daftykins> Guest63502: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:36] <AndroidHacker> boot installer with nomodeset
[19:36] <daftykins> Guest63502: then link the resulting URL here
[19:36] <rainbowwarrior> AndroidHacker, ok thank you
[19:36] <AndroidHacker> n/p
[19:36] <daftykins> rainbowwarrior: and resize Windows' drive from inside Windows for great success
[19:37] <EdwardL> AndroidHacker: You know, just a little clear of the cache and it seemed to get a little better...
[19:37] <daftykins> no point leaving it up to the ubuntu installer
[19:37] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, will do thank you :)
[19:37] <daftykins> EdwardL: heh, right click on the video and see if it refers to the HTML5 player
[19:37] <sl1rpy> why hasnt none of the paid stuff been on the software center for a few months now?
[19:37] <AndroidHacker> great
[19:38] <Guest63502> daftykins: installing pastebinit then will post output
[19:38] <AndroidHacker> sl1rpy, did u enable it
[19:38] <EdwardL> daftykins: Seems to use Adobe Flash 11.2.202.491
[19:38] <daftykins> ah, remnants of the previous install
[19:38] <sl1rpy> AndroidHacker, how?
[19:39] <daftykins> EdwardL: ah well, see how you get on - 'chromium-browser' would definitely be interesting too
[19:39] <Guest63502> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015689/
[19:39] <AndroidHacker> you can enable some of the additonal repos from "software and updates"
[19:39] <AndroidHacker> sl1rpy,
[19:40] <daftykins> Guest63502: hmm. and "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" ?
[19:40] <AndroidHacker> i dont recall seeing apps that cost money in software center, atleast not on "ubuntu", only on other derivitives like zorin
[19:40] <Qantourisc> What is /proc/sys/start ?
[19:40] <Guest63502> daftykins: is there a way to refresh recognized drives because I tried something else that didn't work and unplugged them from my board a minute ago so the output isn't showing the 2tb drive
[19:41] <daftykins> Guest63502: why would you do that? ok power off, ensure the connections are in and power back up
[19:41] <Guest63502> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015701/
[19:41] <Guest63502> daftykins: dunno if this will help first http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015701/
[19:41] <sl1rpy> AndroidHacker, there used to be piad stuff in the software center.  im curious if there is no longer an ecosystem for me to release paid apps in ubuntu
[19:42] <AndroidHacker> im not sure
[19:42] <daftykins> Guest63502: nope
[19:42] <Guest63502> daftykins: alright ill quick restart
[19:44] <doctorly> Every time I use an alternative WM in Ubuntu 14.04, I can't access my SD card, it tells me permission denied.
[19:44] <alpha_> daftykins: back as alpha_
[19:44] <doctorly> What do I have to do to fix this
[19:44] <daftykins> doctorly: either it's dead, has a write protect tab on, or it needs mounting in another way
[19:45] <daftykins> alpha_: alright, same deal "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[19:45] <doctorly> daftykins: that is not the case, as I said, it is only when I use any alternaive WM.
[19:45] <alpha_> sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[19:45] <alpha_> oops not in terminal my b
[19:45] <daftykins> doctorly: no idea what you mean
[19:46] <alpha_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015735/
[19:46] <alpha_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015723/
[19:46] <OerHeks> doctorly, what wm does that?
[19:46] <daftykins> alpha_: weird that it should show up as sda
[19:47] <daftykins> alpha_: so what do you want from this disk again? appears to be NTFS formatted
[19:47] <doctorly> OerHeks: every one I have tried so far except for default. That is i3, ratpoison, etc..
[19:47] <alpha_> daftykins: I want to be able to read and write to it
[19:47] <daftykins> alpha_: so you should just see it in nautilus and be able to click to open, no?
[19:48] <OerHeks> doctorly, and what partitiontype is on that sdcard?
[19:48] <alpha_> daftykins: should it show up under devices?
[19:48] <alpha_> daftykins: because it doesnt show up fro me
[19:48] <doctorly> OerHeks: also, open nautilus will load my default Ubuntu background and allow me to access the card. I think something gets loaded when Unity starts up that isn't being loaded up in alt WM.
[19:48] <daftykins> alpha_: it'd just be on the left hand bar if you're using unity
[19:49] <daftykins> alpha_: no sign of it down toward the bottom?
[19:49] <OerHeks> ehh .. unity with an alternative wm ... ??
[19:49] <alpha_> daftykins: yea it does not show up there. no sign of it, my 16gb thumb drive i have plugged in shows up but not the hdd
[19:49] <daftykins> alpha_: ok run this; "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt" - should complete cleanly with no output
[19:50] <doctorly> OerHeks: No, I am saying I think that the *default* which is Unity, I am not using Unity with any other WM. I am using them all stock.
[19:50] <alpha_> daftykins: i got an output of invalid argument
[19:51] <daftykins> alpha_: throw it on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[19:51] <daftykins> double check for typos
[19:52] <alpha_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015770/
[19:52] <nee-chan> \quit
[19:52] <alpha_> daftykins: i typed again with no spaces and it went through with no output but still nothing in nautilus
[19:53] <Qantourisc> can anyone do a "ls -l /proc/sys/start" and "ls -l /proc/sys/"
[19:53] <CheckYourSix|Lap> Hi, I'm having trouble. I installed 14.04 on my HP DV6000 (ancient, I know) and the wireless just will not work. I tried following the stuff I've found on different forum threads, but it's not working.
[19:53] <Qantourisc> it's missing and i'm not sure what it should be
[19:53] <daftykins> alpha_: "ls /mnt" should show whatever data you have on there
[19:53] <daftykins> Qantourisc: /proc comes from your kernel so i don't think you get to pick and choose like the file system
[19:54] <Qantourisc> daftykins: still might give me an idea what is missing :p
[19:54] <alpha_> daftykins: says ntfs
[19:54] <daftykins> alpha_: pastebin again?
[19:54] <daftykins> alpha_: is this disk brand new or have you got data on it?
[19:55] <Qantourisc> daftykins: it's an lxc container, but some service I cannot start, ( mounted-dev system service is not started )
[19:55] <alpha_> daftykins: i have data on it and ripped it out of an external enclosure
[19:55] <daftykins> Qantourisc: oh different kettle of fish then.
[19:55] <Qantourisc> daftykins: well atleast not creating any  /dev/ nodes
[19:55] <Amoz> Qantourisc, I don't have any ./start in there FYI
[19:55] <Qantourisc> Amoz: thanks, good to know
[19:55] <Amoz> normal machine though
[19:55] <alpha_> daftykins: it only had about 200gb of data and I would pastebing the output but all i got from the ls / mnt was alpha@alpha-Z97-HD3:~$ ls /mnt
[19:55] <alpha_> ntfs
[19:56] <daftykins> alpha_: no it's "ls /mnt" :)
[19:56] <Qantourisc> daftykins: you happen to know how I can manually run a /etc/init/* file (not request a start trough dbus)
[19:56] <daftykins> alpha_: if so, run "ls -al /mnt/ntfs/"
[19:56] <OerHeks> alpha_, nope. sda1 is not ntfs, but exfat ...
[19:56] <daftykins> Qantourisc: i'd have replied on your first question if i knew the topic
[19:56] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[19:56] <Qantourisc> daftykins: a ok :)
[19:57] <Qantourisc> upstart is a magic box
[19:57] <Qantourisc> i dislike magic boxes
[19:57] <alpha_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015796/
[19:57] <daftykins> well that's mighty strange
[19:58] <daftykins> alpha_: "ls -al /mnt | pastebinit" and also "mount | pastebinit"
[19:58] <alpha_> ls -al /mnt | pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[19:58] <alpha_> whoops not in terminal again
[19:58] <Qantourisc> daftykins: ow side node: this will never work :D
[19:58] <Qantourisc> better make my own :D
[19:59] <daftykins> alpha_: was it an enclosure with two disks, or just one?
[19:59] <alpha_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015804/
[19:59] <alpha_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015805/
[20:00] <alpha_> daftykins: single disk enclosures for both the 1tb and the 2tb drives that I tore out and plugged in
[20:00] <menace> Hi, i wanted to force-logrotate /var/log/syslog with logrotate -f /var/log/syslog, but it says it ignores it because the owner is not root but should be root
[20:00] <menace> but handy rotation does seem to work
[20:00] <menace> do i anything wrong?
[20:00] <julian-delphiki> menace, i dont think thats how you invoke it.
[20:01] <Qantourisc> daftykins: ow and the error comes from using the wrong command-line command :D
[20:01] <Qantourisc> (missing ../start)
[20:01] <julian-delphiki> menace, you need to create a logrotate rule for /var/log/syslog if one doesn't exist. and then run logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf, i think.
[20:01] <menace> ah, yes! the config, not the logfile
[20:01] <ubuntufan9> I have 2 questions.. Should i be able to run Wine off of a live usb, and If 15.04 of ubuntu is running fast would future releases of Ubuntu run this way as well or is there a chance it might run slow and lag and such?
[20:01] <daftykins> alpha_: ok so however you rewrote my mount command earlier broke it, so nothing is actually mounted
[20:01] <menace> sorry for the question
[20:01] <MoPac> Hello; I'm hoping to find up-to-date information on configuring touchscreen settings and gestures in Unity 7. There seems to be some old documentation floating around for ginn and such that has never really worked for me, but maybe there's some more progress? I'd love to, e.g., be able to touch and hold for right click by default across all applications.
[20:01] <alpha_> daftykins: so can i try to remount it?
[20:02] <daftykins> alpha_: no, share an "ls /dev/mapper/"
[20:02] <menace> uh.. "error: skipping "/var/log/syslog" because parent directory has insecure permissions (It's world writable or writable by group which is not "root") Set "su" directive in config file to tell logrotate which user/group should be used for rotation." i did not change the permissions..? :(
[20:02] <Amoz> ubuntufan9, yes you should be able to run Wine from an USB. Use the persistant mode though, I guess.
[20:02] <alpha_> daftykins: control  sda5_crypt  ubuntu--vg-root  ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[20:03] <daftykins> lapion: change it to ls -al and pastebin of?
[20:03] <ubuntufan9> Amoz if 15.04 is running fast on my PC though would future releases be the same or is there a chance they'll seem slower/not compatible
[20:04] <Amoz> ubuntufan9, the second question is a bit harder to answer, but in general Ubuntu rarely "bloats" the UI. And if you later realise that e.g. Unity is slowing down, you have a lot of options. For example, install XFCE (Xubuntu)
[20:04] <Qantourisc> ow joy
[20:04] <Qantourisc> hidden fstab in /lib/init/fstab
[20:04] <ubuntufan9> Amoz so Sudo apt-get install XFCE then after it installs run XFCE --replace?
[20:04] <daftykins> alpha_: change it to ls -al and pastebin of?
[20:05] <daftykins> lapion: sorry fail highlight
[20:05] <alpha_> daftykins: other things that i tried doing were once i realize i couldnt access the internal drives, i tried dual booting with windows 10, once i got to the live cd i couldnt decrypt my boot drive to change the partition size to make space for 10
[20:05] <Amoz> ubuntufan9, I would run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:05] <alpha_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015837/
[20:05] <ubuntufan9> ok
[20:06] <daftykins> alpha_: no "ls -al /dev/mapper | pastebinit" :)
[20:06] <Amoz> ubuntufan9, and then you'll just go to the login screen and choose Xfce as session
[20:06] <Amoz> then you can choose whichever environment works best for you
[20:06] <alpha_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12015841/ sorry im being a pain in the ass lol
[20:07] <alpha_> daftykins: still new to ubuntu
[20:08] <aryan> guys, isn't there any way to install systemd in 14.04 ?
[20:08] <daftykins> alpha_: hrmm, ok it doesn't seem to be playing ball conventionally... so i would do a quick google of ubuntu + the name of the enclosure this disk came from, i've gotta take a break to sort some food out though :)
[20:09] <julian-delphiki> !systemd | aryan
[20:09] <alpha_> daftykins: i will do that, thanks for the help
[20:09] <daftykins> np! good luck
[20:09] <aryan> julian-delphiki, I mean on 14.04 .
[20:09] <aryan> Can't we install in trusty ?
[20:09] <julian-delphiki> aryan, i believe that page covers that.
[20:10] <julian-delphiki> oh, nvm
[20:10] <julian-delphiki> aryan, 14.04 is LTS, i wouldn't recommend changing the init system
[20:10] <daftykins> +1 ^
[20:10] <daftykins> if it ain't broke...
[20:17] <Pony90909> i'm going to get a new laptop soon and i am wondering is System76 a good choice for an Ubuntu machine?
[20:18] <greyback_> Pony90909: yes, they offer a great Ubuntu experience. I've a friend with one and he's very happy
[20:18] <zerowaitstate> Pony90909: i have a System76 Kudu Professional and I'm happy with it
[20:18] <zerowaitstate> essentially, the System76 laptops are rebranded Clevo machines, however, they provide in-house driver support
[20:19] <zerowaitstate> it's not as rugged as a thinkpad or hp elitebook, but it's fine
[20:20] <xangua> Pony90909: Ubuntu pre-installed al around the world https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[20:21] <Pony90909> I'm getting one very soon or at least trying to :3
[20:21] <zerowaitstate> i like the fact that on the kudu you can install 2 hard drives (by making one an SSD mini sata)
[20:21] <Pony90909> their website has one listed at $53 a month.. only way i could afford on mostly..
[20:21] <ls-df-h> Hi, I'm getting I/O errors on my FAT-formatted SD card.  testdisk is showing the size to be 2 TB, but it's only 64GB.  Any idea how to troubleshoot it or is everything on it toast?
[20:23] <daftykins> ls-df-h: either the reader is complicating issues or yeah, it's fudged
[20:23] <macskay> hi guys, i'm just trying this. ln -s .vim/ ~/.vim/ but it keeps telling me target is not a directory, well yes it isn'T because the link should create the reference
[20:23] <daftykins> ls-df-h: ensure you've got it in a USB 2 slot perhaps if it's an external reader
[20:23] <ls-df-h> daftykins: it's an external reader, but my phone can't read it, either.
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> ls-df-h: this is FAT32?
[20:27] <ls-df-h> daffdaftykins: Specifically, the error in the console is Buffer I/O Error on device /dev/sdb, logical block 0.  end_request: critical target error, dev sdb, sector 0.
[20:27] <zerowaitstate> ls-df-h: yeah, block 0 is kinda important
[20:28] <ls-df-h> zerowaitstate: so that means it's a physical hardware error, not a partition or filesystem error?
[20:28] <zerowaitstate> ls-df-h: yeah, that's hardware
[20:29] <bprompt> macskay:     ln -s ACTUALDIR  LINKNAME
[20:29] <MeatPopsicle_> does anyone if Unity or Gnome is lighter?
[20:30] <ls-df-h> daftykins: zerowaitstate: eech.  Thanks for your help.  Maybe there's a warranty I can take advantage of.
[20:30] <bprompt> macskay:    you simply have them backwards
[20:30] <k1l_> MeatPopsicle_: very similar. if you want more lightweight see Xubuntu, or for very lightweight see Lubuntu
[20:31] <Pony90909> I am starting to really hate Microsoft.. :/
[20:31] <MeatPopsicle_> Im not a fan of Lubuntu, xubuntu is ok but for some reason I keep coming back to unity idk why
[20:32] <zerowaitstate> Pony90909: why?
[20:32] <Pony90909> My computer's action center is saying to verify my password and when i try to, it don't let me! It just does nothing.
[20:32] <ls-df-h> MicroSD cards aren't exactly easy to repair.  It's not like I can replace a capacitor.
[20:32] <MeatPopsicle_> Win10 Big Brother Edition?
[20:32] <zerowaitstate> MeatPopsicle_: as an IT/dev guy I need something that "just works". I don't have the patience to tinker with config files to get the desktop to work
[20:32] <zerowaitstate> MeatPopsicle_: so i usually end up with unity
[20:32] <Pony90909> will i get locked out if it don't let me... ...
[20:33] <zerowaitstate> Pony90909: is this windows machine domain joined?
[20:33] <OerHeks> Pony90909, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[20:33] <Pony90909> its not
[20:33] <MeatPopsicle_> zerowaitstate I understand, been distro hopping for a few months but keep coming back to Ubuntu, its easy. I want to learn Linux internals as well but I like Ubuntu a lot
[20:34] <Pony90909> Oerheks..
[20:34] <Pony90909> zerowaitstate check PM in a second :3
[20:34] <MeatPopsicle_> I need a second laptop, one for Debian or Arch or another harder distro and one for Ubuntu
[20:35] <Nectar> Do allot of people use ubuntu as a starter OS and move to /harder/ distros?
[20:36] <MeatPopsicle_> I have been using ubuntu more but i recently tried debian its just not the same, still fun but kind of behind the times if that makes sense
[20:36] <xangua> Nectar: people are free to use what they want
[20:36] <k1l_> Nectar: well, everyone got different reason to change to another distro or even not to change.
[20:37] <MeatPopsicle_> I have been hopping a few months now, cant decide but Ubuntu keeps calling me back
[20:37] <OerHeks> Nectar, you know where to find us, if you want to move back :-P
[20:38] <MeatPopsicle_> I need to decide because I think frequent hopping fried a HD, a year or so old and it failed on me
[20:43] <MeatPopsicle_> gotta see if I can repair another HD with gparted
[20:43] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: actually, his question did turn out to be Ubuntu-related. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple_Boot_Systems_Time_Conflicts
[20:45] <OerHeks> ah utc/local time issue, i tried to understand why it is related to ubuntu
[20:45] <zerowaitstate> every time he boots Ubuntu, it screws up his ability to log into his Microsoft Account.
[20:46] <zerowaitstate> when he switches back
[20:46] <anao> hi@all do anyone have problems with login to fb on pidgin 2.10? cant login
[20:47] <xangua> anao: Facebook api (xmpp servers) stopped working officially on April 30, this was announced a year ago
[20:47] <sl1rpy> kindof offtopic but no one is responding in other two channels.  how would i go about marketing propietary software in ubuntu? it doesnt seem that ubuntu paid apps have been available which makes me think its not even possible :/
[20:47] <OerHeks> zerowaitstate, best solution is "Make Linux use 'Local' time" sofar i tackeld it
[20:48] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: yeah, what I suggested
[20:48] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:48] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: easier to make Linux do what you want than Microsoft often
[20:48] <pbx> sl1rpy, what research have you done? i see all sorts of paid apps in Ubuntu Software Center
[20:48] <xangua> anao: I believe there is a new plugin for facebook chat in development, you can ask on #pidgin
[20:49] <sl1rpy> pbx, well i have all the software sources checked and i dont see paid books like i used too
[20:49] <OerHeks> I think that should be the default setting, or maybe i expect that already from a desktop.
[20:49] <anao> @xangua ok i heard, but on my older thinclient with 2.09 i can login on tinycorelinux
[20:49] <OerHeks> anyway, solved :-P
[20:49] <anao> ok thanks i look on #pidgin
[20:49] <pbx> sl1rpy, books? dunno. thought the question was about software
[20:50] <sl1rpy> pbx, it is, but i cant find anything that i could pay for
[20:50] <ls-df-h> MeatPopsicle_: Swtiching distros shouldn't have had any effect on your hard drive's lifespan.
[20:50] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: I think it's stupid that Microsoft saves time in the RTC as local time, since local time depends on local politicians. I don't have an #!(-hat deciding the move the UTC back a couple of hours so we can sell more french fries
[20:51] <parzon> hey, is anybody here?
[20:51] <user1254> no
[20:51] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: it's like saying we'll make the standard mile 150 feet shorter so everyone's car will get better mileage
[20:52] <pbx> sl1rpy, dunno. i see paid stuff as soon as i fire up software center. https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8vggxln4ztj3y7/usc.png?dl=0
[20:52] <parzon> can someone tell me how can I hide docky icon on xubuntu?
[20:52] <sl1rpy> pbx, is the paid apps in a repo that i dont have possibly?
[20:53] <zerowaitstate> parzon: #xubuntu
[20:53] <pbx> sl1rpy, this is 14.04, don't recall what sources i enabled sorry. pretty sure it's something stock (if off by default) rather than something i added tho
[20:53] <sl1rpy> pbx, i have had this problem in unity+ubuntu 15.04 and mate+ubuntu 15.04...
[20:55] <zerowaitstate> I may be off-base, but I think Software Center != apt
[20:58] <zerowaitstate> Canonical seems to be driving the whole "Software Center" toward their Ubuntu phone thingy. The setup is similar to the way the phone app stores work
[20:59] <sl1rpy> pbx,it seems to sound like the reason paid apps dont show in 15.04 is because most devs havent compiled and tested for 15.04.
[21:00] <k1l_> zerowaitstate: the softwarecenter is a frontend to apt
[21:00] <zerowaitstate> k1l_: for paid apps as well?
[21:00] <k1l_> for paid apps, its a different matter.
[21:01] <pbx> sl1rpy, interesting theory, but i can't imagine a reason why paid sw devs would lag so much behind everybody else. it's not like they couldn't prepare in advance
[21:01] <pbx> simple enough for someone else here running 15.04 to pull up USC and say what they see tho
[21:01] <k1l_> for paid apps contact the app developer.
[21:02] <zerowaitstate> pbx: because Linux desktop users are a minority, Ubuntu users are a majority of the minority, and Ubuntu users who actually use the Software Center are a minority of teh majority of the minority
[21:02] <pbx> zerowaitstate, i don't see how that equates to *zero* paid apps in 15.04
[21:02] <zerowaitstate> pbx: so outside of LTS, it's hard to justify the additional work for integrate every 6 months or whatever
[21:03] <pbx> sl1rpy isn't saying there are only a few
[21:03] <pbx> zerowaitstate, right, hard, not so hard or undesirable that *nobody* would want to do it
[21:03] <k1l_> well, it should not be that much difference
[21:04] <k1l_> so what is the real technical issue behind all this again?
[21:05] <pbx> k1l_, the issue is that sl1rpy is not seeing any paid apps and is wondering why
[21:05] <k1l_> which ubuntu is it exactly?
[21:06] <pbx> k1l_, 15.04 says sl1rpy, that's all i know
[21:07] <zerowaitstate> I find it a little bizzare that ebooks wouldn't show up under 15.04, though, since ebooks shouldn't care about the platform version at all
[21:08] <k1l_> that totally sounds like a bug. but we need to dig a little deeper into what that system is setup there. sl1rpy
[21:09] <sl1rpy> k1l_, I tried ubuntu unity 15.04 and ubuntu mate 15.04 and nada
[21:10] <sl1rpy> looked for books and looked for puzzle games that used to be there
[21:10] <sl1rpy> they were in 14.10 if i remember correctly but when i upgraded i dont recall ever seeing them
[21:10] <k1l_> well, i started it right now on my 15.04 and i dont have any paid apps too. so maybe the server is down?
[21:10] <donalmc> who
[21:10] <donalmc> whois
[21:11] <donalmc> hi
[21:11] <k1l_> so we need someone with a running 14.04 to look at it now :)
[21:11] <donalmc> people join but no one speaks :(
[21:12] <zerowaitstate> k1l_: I'm running 14.04.03 LTS and I can see paid stuff
[21:12] <k1l_> donalmc: this is a support channel. for general chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:12] <donalmc> thanks k1l
[21:13] <Nectar> How can I mirror my ubuntu so that I can recover it from the image? any tools?
[21:14] <daftykins> Nectar: clonezilla
[21:14] <zerowaitstate> Nectar: I've had good luck with Clonezilla
[21:15] <EarlUbuntu> Do I have to redownload all my steam games or is there a workaround to access them from within Ubuntu?
[21:15] <k1l_> EarlUbuntu: after what?
[21:15] <EarlUbuntu> pardon?
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> EarlUbuntu: steam games for windows won't run under Linux without emulation. Steam for Linux offers games compiled specifically for Linux, which are different programs
[21:16] <EarlUbuntu> I figured. Has anyone had solid luck with emulation?
[21:16] <k1l_> EarlUbuntu: redownload after what?
[21:16] <EarlUbuntu> Prolly just easier to boot back to Windows
[21:16] <zerowaitstate> EarlUbuntu: I have not. Others who have more free time have
[21:16] <zerowaitstate> EarlUbuntu: WINE is the way you do it
[21:16] <k1l_> EarlUbuntu: if you mean "after a ubuntu install" yes. you need to load the linux versions of that games (if they provide one) or run it in wine
[21:16] <yorwos> i was wondering , if i use 2 monitors with ubuntu , can i use 2 mouses with 2 mouse cursors ?
[21:16] <connor__> would someone be able to help me get xsnow or something like it working on my xubuntu setup?
[21:17] <EarlUbuntu> k1l_, I had the idea to play windows Steam games through Ubuntu steam
[21:17] <rypervenche> EarlUbuntu: Play games that are made to run in Linux. for those that aren't, I'd recommend using Windows. Wine is usually quick hacky on a lot of games.
[21:17] <EarlUbuntu> rypervenche, ok, thanks
[21:17] <EarlUbuntu> Was wishful thinking anyway
[21:17] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: you can have as many keyboards as you want, but there is only mouse cursor AFAIK
[21:17] <MoPac> Is there a way to get my CPU management settings to persist (a) on reboot (at the moment, it's always Powersave to start) and (b) on resume from suspend (at the moment, the CPU is always locked at a low idle frequency until a new plan is selected on resume)?
[21:18] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: if you want multiple "desktops" each with their own keyboard/mouse, your talking about running remote X11 (like over SSH), which is doable but slow except over LAN
[21:18] <connor__> how to change desktop effects in xubuntu?
[21:20] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: there is sort of a trend away from terminal servers like you describe toward desktop OS's running in a VM and accessed via thin client like PCoIP
[21:20] <yorwos> my main idea was putting my 2nd monitor to the living room with a keyboard and mouse and let rest family use that instead of booting another machine
[21:21] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: yeah, you can have the monitors mirror each other
[21:21] <daftykins> yorwos: eggs and baskets come to mind
[21:21] <yorwos> zerowaitstate,  u suggest i use a vm on the 2nd desktop ? will that allow easier for different mouse+keyb ?
[21:22] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: I didn't realize this was a home thing
[21:22] <yorwos> yea home for energy saving
[21:22] <yorwos> act like we have 2 computers while we only use 1 of them
[21:22] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: computers actually do go to sleep
[21:23] <k1l_> yorwos: that woule mean running 2 x-servers
[21:23] <k1l_> *would
[21:24] <yorwos> well thanx guyz , time to google all these things
[21:24] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: google kvm extenders
[21:24] <yorwos> ;)
[21:25] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: there's more to putting a keyboard mouse in a different room than just the software
[21:25] <daftykins> fwiw i think it's a waste of time
[21:25] <daftykins> just get a sensible low power system for loung entertainment = done
[21:25] <daftykins> *lounge
[21:26] <yorwos> i just thoght to setup different desktops through amdcccle ,each with its own menu bars and shortcuts for programs , and then kwin to memorize eg.firefox on monitor1 chrome on monitor2
[21:26] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: http://solid-run.com/freescale-imx6-family/cubox-i/
[21:26] <yorwos> they dont do much other than surfing through a browser
[21:27] <zerowaitstate> yorwos: look at what I linked
[21:28] <yorwos> yea nice idea ... a mini computer
[21:28] <daftykins> careful of chinese tat, something like a Pi2 would suffice
[21:29] <zerowaitstate> the Pi2 doesn't have an integrated RTC
[21:29] <zerowaitstate> some assembly required so it doesn't forget the time when you power it off
[21:29] <daftykins> not given NTP
[21:29] <zerowaitstate> this is home network
[21:30] <daftykins> yes...
[21:31] <zerowaitstate> not all home routers run an ntpd daemon
[21:31] <daftykins> most software is configured to use NTP servers out on the internet, a home router has nothing to do with it
[21:31] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: sorry but i see where you're coming from, but your point is moot
[21:31] <zerowaitstate> most software has the fallback of battery-backed RTC. R-Pi2 doesn't without a daughterboard
[21:32] <zerowaitstate> the situation where you boot your machine while your ISP is down and your home router doesn't run ntpd that you can sync to
[21:32] <daftykins> and then oh dear the clock is wrong? :)
[21:33] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: the clock is more important than you think, even on consumer devices
[21:34] <daftykins> and less relevant than you seem to
[21:34] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: but yeah, if you're only using the device to access internet content, then it's probably moot
[21:35] <zerowaitstate> daftykins: very simple stuff like logrotate depends on monotonically increasing time.
[21:35] <tgm4883> It's going behind a TV so his family can use it
[21:35] <daftykins> zerowaitstate: ok lets move on now please :)
[21:35] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: wait, you're worried about logrotate...
[21:35] <daftykins> tgm4883: smile and nod, it's safer
[21:35]  * tgm4883 jumps back out of this conversation
[21:36] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: i gave logrotate as an example
[21:36] <tgm4883> :)
[21:37] <zerowaitstate> i frankly don't care whether a $100 stupid set-top box works or doesn't; simply offering my experience
[21:43] <neldogz> Hi all, cant seem to login to Launchpad, keeps on saying Bad Request, bad bot, go away! Request aborted. Tryign to get
[21:43] <neldogz> Anyone experiencing this?
[21:44] <tgm4883> neldogz: logging in with Ubuntu One works
[21:44] <tgm4883> neldogz: you using a user agent switcher?
[21:45] <neldogz> tgm4883, no but I am using lastpass to fill in the credentials for me.
[21:45] <tgm4883> neldogz: I do that as well, but again, I run it all through ubuntu one
[21:45] <tgm4883> neldogz: You can ask in #launchpad
[21:46] <neldogz> tgm4883, thanks!
[21:49] <njmbb8> hey guys, fresh install of 15 here. i have a drive that isn't getting picked up4
[21:49] <njmbb8> can anyone help?
[21:50] <njmbb8> fstab
[21:51] <njmbb8> woops
[21:51] <njmbb8> wrong keyboard lol
[21:57] <daftykins> njmbb8: yeah, share a pastebin of "sudo parted -l" and "mount"
[21:57] <njmbb8> can do!
[21:59] <njmbb8> pastebin.com/MeGvVZtq
[21:59] <daftykins> aww points lost for non-clickability
[22:00] <daftykins> njmbb8: and the other half?
[22:00] <njmbb8> otw :)
[22:01] <njmbb8> pastebin.com/Mavesy2s
[22:01] <njmbb8> the drive i'm looking for is 1tb
[22:01] <njmbb8> and the bios recognizes it
[22:01] <k1l_> daftykins: a good client makes the linkts clickable :) at least hexchat does for me
[22:02] <daftykins> eh, irssi via KiTTY
[22:03] <njmbb8> i'm irc'ing on one machine and linuxing on the other so i just typed the url in
[22:03] <daftykins> njmbb8: nope there is no disk of that size connected, you've got your 32GB flash drive and 500GB HDD, nothing else
[22:03] <njmbb8> my bad
[22:03] <njmbb8> well, it's connected. the bios sees it
[22:03] <daftykins> ok "dmesg > /tmp/blah" then install 'pastebinit' and run "pastebinit /tmp/blah"
[22:07] <njmbb8> paste.ubuntu.com/12016794
[22:07] <daftykins> ok lets see
[22:10] <daftykins> njmbb8: nope, 500GB WD - Sony optiarc optical drive (DVD) - nothing else.
[22:10] <njmbb8> weird
[22:10] <daftykins> njmbb8: is it possible your motherboard has both chipset SATA *and* an external controller chip providing more SATA ports?
[22:10] <njmbb8> any ideas?
[22:10] <tgm4883> njmbb8: are you sure the BIOS sees it?
[22:10] <navetz> hi can someone help me figure out how to see emojis in my google chrome on ubuntu. This is what I get all the time: http://imgur.com/Bnydm5t
[22:11] <njmbb8> gimme a sec to reboot into bios
[22:11] <daftykins> pics if you can
[22:11] <njmbb8> right
[22:17] <njmbb8> http://i.imgur.com/7FdqwP8.jpg
[22:17] <sl1rpy> is there a count on how many people use ubuntu somewhere thats up to date?
[22:18] <njmbb8> daftykins, tgm4883
[22:18] <k1l_> sl1rpy: there is no such thing like an exact number. that is the trouble
[22:18] <hehehehe> is there a way to compile unity without the launcher bar on ubuntu 14.04?
[22:18] <sl1rpy> k1l_, a rough estimate would do?
[22:18] <njmbb8> download number?
[22:19] <njmbb8> you could do an os detection scan in nmap on all valid ips and see how many return posisitve for ubuntu
[22:19] <njmbb8> idr how specific that gets
[22:19] <daftykins> njmbb8: ah so the other one is PATA, hang on
[22:20] <daftykins> njmbb8: can you boot back in and do a "sudo fdisk -l" and also share an "lspci" ?
[22:20] <njmbb8> yeah
[22:20] <njmbb8> sec
[22:27] <haryv> where can I wget apt-get
[22:27] <haryv> trying to find a link
[22:28] <daftykins> how did the situation even come up?
[22:28] <k1l_> haryv: why do you want to wget it?
[22:28] <haryv> bcause yum does not see it as a downloadable item
[22:28] <k1l_> haryv: so what linux are we talking about?
[22:28] <haryv> ubuntu
[22:29] <k1l_> haryv: come on
[22:29] <haryv> okay sorry, disregard
[22:29] <njmbb8> paste.ubuntu.com/12016904
[22:29] <webber_> oi
[22:30] <njmbb8> paste.ubuntu.com/12016911
[22:30] <njmbb8> daftykins
[22:30] <Neepu> Hey, i'm looking for a general programming channel. What channels would that be?
[22:31] <k1l_> !alis | Neepu see if there is #programming or such
[22:31] <dcope> hey all, every night at around 6:20 PM my CPU spikes and all four cores get pegged for a few minutes. i've checked cron jobs and nothing seems out of hte ordinary. what would be the next thing to check?
[22:31] <k1l_> dcope: syslog?
[22:32] <artois> updatedb
[22:32] <artois> with the wrong time zone :p
[22:32] <njmbb8> are people doing stuff to your system remotely?
[22:32] <artois> heh
[22:32] <dcope> k1l_: with dmesg?
[22:32] <daftykins> njmbb8: have a look at the SATA ports the disks are plugged into on that motherboard, which devices are where? https://www.asus.com/media/global/products/wurRaDZ8lo4Ckukj/9jQiycTrYALmWITT_500.jpg
[22:33] <k1l_> dcope: syslog got timestamps :)
[22:34] <daftykins> njmbb8: essentially... is this seagate disk plugged into one of the two slots that's at the very bottom edge of the board?
[22:34] <njmbb8> yes
[22:35] <dcope> k1l_: nothing out of the ordinary in the syslog
[22:35] <Guest28807> anyone know of any decent pci-e wireless cards for a new desktop I built that support ubuntu?
[22:36] <Guest28807> If they were capable of monitoring and I could use with kalilinux that would be a plus too
[22:36] <daftykins> njmbb8: ok that's not gonna work, move it to one of the 6 SATA ports provided by the chipset on the side
[22:37] <njmbb8> ah ok thanks!
[22:37] <daftykins> njmbb8: also, that motherboard is on the very first release BIOS... 0301, published 3rd November 2009... the newest is 1501 from 2nd July 2011 :) many stability improvements since
[22:37] <njmbb8> yeah it's an old rig that i left at my parents house when i went to college
[22:38] <njmbb8> i honestly don't remember the model # of the mobo, do you have a link to the updated bios?
[22:40] <k1l_> dcope: hmm, dont know then
[22:40] <dcope> yeah, it's very strange. it happens every day around 6:20 PM like clockwork. i can't figure out what's going on.
[22:41] <daftykins> njmbb8: yeah it's in your 'dmesg' - first 30 odd lines :) https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6X58D_Premium/HelpDesk_Download/
[22:41] <daftykins> njmbb8: pretty high end machine to leave behind!
[22:41] <njmbb8> thanks daftykins you've been a ton of help
[22:42] <njmbb8> also, yeah it cost like, a summer's worth of lifegaurding
[22:42] <daftykins> neat :) and no problem
[22:42] <njmbb8> but i got a pretty sweet laptop with my highschool graduation money
[22:45] <MeatPopsicle> so anyone else have an issue with downloading multiple files from the software center? it seems after I get around 8 going it hangs on applying changes on one
[22:45] <MeatPopsicle> i can wait for na hour or more and no progress
[22:45] <MeatPopsicle> for an*
[22:46] <daftykins> why would you queue up so many?
[22:46] <MeatPopsicle> when i initially install I want to get games and things and it hangs it up(been distro hopping so I come back a lot)
[22:47] <daftykins> get the package names and open a terminal, type "sudo apt install package1 package2 package" instead of that, then
[22:48] <MeatPopsicle> maybe ill compile a list of games and other programs I akways DL and save it, copy and paste to DL them
[22:49] <daftykins> that would work, if they all had the same names
[22:50] <OerHeks> if your hdd light blinks, take a drink and watch the show.
[22:52] <MeatPopsicle> so basically im limited to what I can download with ubuntu(in a way)?
[22:52] <njmbb8> good lord
[22:53] <njmbb8> i was messing around with the innards of my computer and a massive thunder rang out
[22:53] <daftykins> MeatPopsicle: not even vaguely, no idea why whatever you're up to is doing what it's doing. maybe it's the programs you're choosing
[22:53] <njmbb8> i thought i was dead for sure
[22:53] <daftykins> that doesn't sound good
[22:53] <njmbb8> ofc the computer is unplugged
[22:53] <josharenson> MeatPopsicle: joining late here, but I have a script in my dropbox that I run after every new install that downloads all the software I need. I can share it if you want...
[22:53] <m1zkov> hello
[22:54] <njmbb8> daftykins, it's fine, but my brain first went to, "oh shit what did you do to the computer" instead of "jesus, that was loud thunder"
[22:54] <daftykins> njmbb8: heh, careful on keeping the language family friendly ;)
[22:55] <MeatPopsicle> josharenson that would be awesome thank you
[22:55] <njmbb8> sorry, didn't know that was a bad thing
[22:56] <m1zkov> what is the best way to wash bitcoins without getting scammed?
[22:56] <daftykins> m1zkov: that's not an ubuntu support question, take it elsewhere please
[22:57] <m1zkov> sorry, i am new to this irc thing.
[22:57] <oldornew> So I tried encrypting my home folder and almost instantly hit path limitations, I prefer not living in cave man times, so what's the best way to encrypt my /home partition?
[22:58] <Nectar> Do i need to install flux before fluxgui. Or does flucgui contain flux already?
[22:58] <EriC^^> Nectar: it most likely does
[22:58] <oldornew> (it seems the encrypted file system or whatever has these super bad filename or path limitations)
[23:01] <kolombo> oldornew, yes, there are 143 char limitation of ecryptfs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/344878
[23:02] <kolombo> oldornew, you can use cryptsetup, it does not have that limit
[23:02] <oldornew> i'll do that, thanks
[23:03] <kolombo> debian uses it as default
[23:03] <kolombo> you're welcome
[23:05] <Jordan_U> oldornew: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/344878 seems to show that bug being fixed in Precise.
[23:06] <Jordan_U> oldornew: Never mind, reading the full description I see that the limit is still there.
[23:07] <njmbb8> thanks, daftykins it shows up in dmesg at least
[23:08] <njmbb8> i think all i have to do now is format it, right?
[23:08] <daftykins> njmbb8: ah then we can move on... if you do another "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:08] <daftykins> njmbb8: what's the intention for it to be used as?
[23:08] <njmbb8> data drive
[23:08] <daftykins> hrmm so it might've been better to have put your /home on it
[23:09] <njmbb8> well, any quick fix for that or should i just reinstall?
[23:09] <njmbb8> reinstalling honestly isn't that big of a deal
[23:10] <daftykins> yeah it can be resolved, not a huge problem
[23:10] <njmbb8> ok cool
[23:10] <njmbb8> cp /home sdb
[23:10] <daftykins> haha
[23:10] <njmbb8> lol
[23:10] <daftykins> not quite
[23:11] <EriC^^> not that easy
[23:11] <EriC^^> :D
[23:17] <chasealias> logout
[23:18] <njmbb8> no
[23:18] <njmbb8> i will not
[23:27] <m1zkov> why is it a bad idea to login as root?  i want to play with ether ape, but it says i need to be logged in as root
[23:27] <daftykins> m1zkov: good lord, that's the ancient name for wireshark.
[23:28] <daftykins> ah no i'm thinking of ethereal
[23:28] <m1zkov> i have wireshark and etherape on my computer
[23:28] <daftykins> m1zkov: just run it with gksu / gksudo, no need to actually log *in* as root, that would be foolish
[23:30] <daftykins> njmbb8: any luck with the pastebin?
[23:31] <njmbb8> what am i pastebinning?
[23:31] <njmbb8> i missed that
[23:31] <daftykins> "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:31] <daftykins> to go about making use of that second disk
[23:32] <Luis40LP> Buenas noches, alguien de Las Palmas?
[23:33] <BotchlaB> Luis40LP, saludos. Tal vez en #ubuntu-es le pueden ayudar mejor. Ojo, que estos canales son para soporte técnico nada más.
[23:33] <Luis40LP> Ok, muchas gracias
[23:33] <BotchlaB> De nada. :-)
[23:38] <njmbb8> daftykins, paste.ubuntu.com/12017281
[23:39] <daftykins> njmbb8: so if you run the program 'gparted' by clicking the dash icon top left then typing it, you'll be able to select /dev/sdb then create a single ext4 partition on it
[23:39] <Gerowen> I'm trying to make a backup ISO of my Princess Monoke DVD, but even with libdvdcss2 installed from the Videolan repo, it gets to a certain point in the process and then fails, the disc is not scratched and works properly.  Before it fails it seems to copy fine, except the disc speed is VERY slow compared to some other DVDs I've made backups of.
[23:40] <daftykins> Gerowen: sounds like ARCCoS, you could try with ddrescue
[23:41] <Leverquin> hello. is there anyone that can help me>?
[23:42] <zykotick9> Leverquin: ask your question... and see :)
[23:42] <njmbb8> daftykins, what type of partition table should i use?
[23:42] <daftykins> njmbb8: mbr / msdos
[23:43] <Leverquin> i just installed lubuntu on pretty old pc. (512mb ram) 32 system.. and everything works fine just mozilla crashed when i start to watch youtube/ and when i download skype just didn't start program... and firefox is damn slow (version 39.0) what i can do?
[23:44] <daftykins> i think you're asking a bit much of such a spec machine
[23:44] <daftykins> what's the graphics hardware in there?
[23:44] <impalle> Leverquin: did you read the note about system requirements for the Lubuntu version you installed?
[23:45] <Leverquin> i wanted to instal lubintu 14.04 but i download new version by mistake. graphic card is;
[23:45] <k1l_> firefox and youtube are like the heaviest tasks you could fire up. i mean modern dualcores with 4GB ram are not fast with that.
[23:45] <Leverquin> yes it said lubuntu under 2RAM
[23:46] <Leverquin> how to check my g. card?
[23:46] <EriC^^> lspci | grep VGA
[23:46] <daftykins> most likely HTML5 chugging i'd bet
[23:46] <Leverquin> oh
[23:47] <Leverquin> it said nvidia Corporation NV34 Ge force FX 5200
[23:47] <daftykins> wow
[23:47] <Leverquin> i said old. there was xp win and i just reboost all.
[23:47] <daftykins> yes, yes you did
[23:48] <daftykins> Leverquin: sudo apt-get install nvidia-304
[23:48] <daftykins> and reboot
[23:48] <daftykins> actually does kubuntu even use lightdm?
[23:48] <Leverquin> ok i will try
[23:48] <k1l_> since 15.04 they use sdds (or was is ssds?
[23:49] <Leverquin> ok
[23:49] <Leverquin> i am gonna reboost comming back
[23:49] <Leverquin> wish i know what i just did with that command :(
[23:49] <daftykins> install an nvidia driver
[23:49] <Leverquin> :O
[23:50] <Leverquin> but i must say working better than xp
[23:50] <daftykins> despite crashing firefox, that's impressive
[23:50] <Gerowen> daftykins: Enlighten me about this arcoss and ddrescue, my goal is to have a file that my computer can open for burning new copies, or mount to play without digging out the physical disc.
[23:51] <Leverquin> to be honest this pc was pretty good. never had bigger problems
[23:51] <daftykins> Gerowen: newer Sony copy protection mechanism which prevents disc reading like this.
[23:51] <Leverquin> well driver is installating now.
[23:51] <daftykins> Gerowen: ddrescue might be able to get around it, but quite frankly it'd be better just to skip it
[23:52] <daftykins> Leverquin: well, the Spitfire was a great plane once...
[23:52] <EriC^^> dont give him ideas daftykins
[23:52] <daftykins> XD
[23:52] <EriC^^> :D
[23:53] <Leverquin> well to be honest i didn't want to install linux on new pc. cuz i had never done that before and didn't want to break something so i take off my old pc from plastic bag... and installed this.
[23:53] <daftykins> ah so there *is* some sanity to it
[23:53] <Leverquin> lol
[23:53] <Leverquin> at least i gave to this machine new life
[23:54] <Leverquin> is there after life for 512mb RAM?
[23:54] <daftykins> well, technically that's more RAM than the VM i'm typing from right now
[23:55] <k1l_> daftykins: i doubt you want to run firefox with youtube on that VM :)
[23:56] <daftykins> ooh deary me nope, 'tis a web server and irssi host alone
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Leverquin: " is there after life for 512mb RAM" -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[23:57] <Leverquin> yes i got Lubuntu 15.04 wanted 14.04
[23:57] <Leverquin> my terminal done with drivers shall i restart pc?