| zumper | i cant see wireless and stuff now | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| zumper | i did install it again doing apt-get install xfce4-indicator-plugin | 00:00 |
| zumper | but i cant see wireless.. | 00:00 |
| zumper | only bluetooth now | 00:00 |
| zumper | how do i get it back? | 00:00 |
| zumper | ... | 00:03 |
| zumper | I also removed , by accident , my icon for wireless network connection. When I put in the terminal : sudo nm-applet I have my icon back for the wireless connections. | 00:04 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| cb_ | Hi, I want to configure desktop notifications for my wifi hotspot connection.. so that when a new device gets added it would also show its name in notification popup.. any ideas how do i do that? | 06:28 |
| === Executioner` is now known as Executioner | ||
| gdi2k | how can I adjust the sensitivity of the volume control keys? mine drive the volume from off to ear piercing in about 3 steps... | 11:06 |
| gdi2k | to answer my own question: xfconf-query -c xfce4-mixer -n -p /volume-step-size -s 1 -t uint | 11:20 |
| === yazdmich is now known as BytesAndCoffee | ||
| asantos3 | uhm, hi | 15:34 |
| asantos3 | does someone remember me from yesterday? | 15:34 |
| drc | no...best to restate your problem, what you did to correct it and what is still wrong. | 15:35 |
| asantos3 | ok, I write the problem and how I got where I'm now | 15:35 |
| asantos3 | I'm on Xubuntu 15.04 with an Radeon HD 7670M and I'm having fps drops in 3D fullscreen OpenGl games following an update | 15:37 |
| holstein | asantos3: whatever its an update to, you can try simply reverting the update | 15:37 |
| asantos3 | well, the problem I don't know what was it | 15:38 |
| holstein | that can at least confirm that, for you. then, you can file a bug, but, i suggest going upstream as far as you can | 15:38 |
| holstein | asantos3: id day, thats an assumption then. you can try reverting the kernel, then, the driver.. or, just look for, and start your own bug report.. you can try #ubuntu as well, and see if you can find someone with the exact same hardware. that would be helpful | 15:39 |
| drc | I've never had occasion to use it or even look, but I'd assume that there's an update log <somewhere> ? | 15:40 |
| asantos3 | I tested this a bunch of times | 15:40 |
| drc | This should tell you what was updated. | 15:40 |
| asantos3 | I know what I update because I took an screenshot of it | 15:41 |
| drc | "<asantos3> well, the problem I don't know what was it" Then what was this? | 15:41 |
| holstein | asantos3: ah, so, as i suggested, you can try steppting back the versions of what you think is the cause.. its likely you can have a regression bug | 15:41 |
| holstein | it happens, for sure | 15:41 |
| asantos3 | Here's the screenshot http://i.imgur.com/WQxKg9i.png I took one because monday or so I had fps drops so I tested and bunch of stuff, even switched to ubuntu mate and reinstalled xubuntu 15.04 | 15:43 |
| asantos3 | I don't know what could have affected it from that list :/ | 15:44 |
| holstein | asantos3: the drivers, and core kernels, and other parts, are the same.. so, switching DE's wont address driver support, like that | 15:44 |
| asantos3 | But it did ran finned, with everything updated on lubuntu 15.04 and ubuntu 15.04 | 15:45 |
| holstein | asantos3: sure.. both, lubuntu and ubuntu 15.04 are ubuntu as well.. same kernel, and GPU drivers.. *if* you have the same GPU drivers installed | 15:46 |
| asantos3 | I did | 15:46 |
| asantos3 | my gpu doesn't like the proprietary drivers | 15:46 |
| asantos3 | so I always run the Radeon driver | 15:47 |
| === IdleOne is now known as Guest41975 | ||
| thatdudeguyyoukn | Hi | 16:17 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | I installed xubuntu 15.05 and Firefox from the link in the menu doesnt run | 16:18 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | I get failed to execute default browser - IO error | 16:18 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | Anyone seen this? | 16:18 |
| asantos3 | what do you mean by "from the link in the menu"? | 16:19 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | shortcut in the main pulldown | 16:19 |
| asantos3 | runs just fine in a fresh install here | 16:20 |
| holstein | so, a fresh install of 15.04? and you click on firefox and it doesnt run? what happens, thatdudeguyyoukn ? | 16:20 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | yes, that is what I am describing | 16:20 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | I get failed to execute default browser - IO error | 16:21 |
| drc | 1) Works here, 2) what happens if you uninstall then reinstall FF? | 16:21 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | Did I break the Internet? | 16:21 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | lol | 16:21 |
| drc | No, you're not that good. | 16:21 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: please open a terminal, and type "firefox" and hit return, and see if it runs.. | 16:22 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | drc, I'm sure you aren't either | 16:22 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | process:4380): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed | 16:22 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/joe/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied | 16:22 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: did it start? | 16:23 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | nope | 16:23 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | got that error | 16:23 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: how did you install? from what iso? | 16:23 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | usb from fresh download | 16:24 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: sure.. from fresh download of what? | 16:24 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | I'm gonna reinstall and see if the issue persists | 16:24 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: reinstall what? xubuntu 15.04? 64bit? | 16:24 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | holstein, from the ISO download. | 16:24 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | 64bit yes | 16:24 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: i would simply update, first. though, it looks like you may just have a simple permissions issue.. did you create a user post install? | 16:25 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: would you try starting firefox as the guest user? | 16:25 |
| === Guest41975 is now known as IdleOne | ||
| thatdudeguyyoukn | holstein, I did patch it and restart | 16:25 |
| holstein | thatdudeguyyoukn: you patched what? how? | 16:25 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | apt-get | 16:26 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade | 16:27 |
| holstein | well, im updated here, and firefox runs.. so, i dont think that is the issue.. did you add any ppa's? | 16:27 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | nope | 16:27 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | nada | 16:27 |
| holstein | does it run as the guest? | 16:27 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | fresh install. I'm gonna try as guest | 16:27 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | Matter of fact, gonna redownload. Copy ISO to known good USB and reinstall | 16:28 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | oh and also checksum after download | 16:28 |
| drc | and check the media from the menu affter booting the USB, before installing | 16:28 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | yes, I will do that as well. | 16:29 |
| thatdudeguyyoukn | Thanks yall | 16:29 |
| asantos3 | I tried rolling back some updates but didn't figured it out | 16:50 |
| asantos3 | can anyone more knowledge than me see what package could be causing an fps drop? http://i.imgur.com/We4llgE.png This is the update history, the stuff at 04:17 caused it, dunno what. | 16:50 |
| parzon | hey, can someone tell me how can i hide docky icon? | 20:54 |
| knome | maybe ask a docky channel? | 20:54 |
| Mahe | would installing vm+ | 22:28 |
| Mahe | sry accidently hit enter | 22:28 |
| Mahe | would installing vivid's intel driver deb package (xserver-xorg-video-intel) on trusty break the system (e.g. is it kernel dependent)? | 22:29 |
| knome | i wouldn't suggest doing that | 22:30 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, you could install the HWE | 22:31 |
| mrkramps_ | if not already done | 22:31 |
| xangua | Mahe: why would you need that? What is your Real issue? | 22:32 |
| Mahe | I've got a graphical problem with xfdesktop (both with Xfce 4.10 and 4.12) on trusty that isn't present on vivid. | 22:32 |
| Mahe | If I set the icon size on xfdesktop higher (e.g. 64) and start dragging an element on the desktop my mouse cursor turns in to a garbled mess of the cursor and icon texture mixed together. | 22:33 |
| Mahe | it's not visible on screenshots but stays for a few minutes | 22:33 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, graphics card? | 22:34 |
| Mahe | It's happening on an Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics | 22:34 |
| Mahe | it happens when using the SNA accel method (default) | 22:35 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, already tried UXA? | 22:35 |
| Mahe | yes, then the issue disappears | 22:35 |
| Mahe | but I can't get VSync via compton to work correctly on UXA | 22:35 |
| Mahe | so it's not a solution for me either | 22:36 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, would you mind posting the result of the following command:$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel* | fgrep '***' | 22:36 |
| Mahe | *** 2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.5~trusty1 0 | 22:36 |
| mrkramps_ | ok, that's the lts-utopic driver | 22:37 |
| Mahe | I used the point release #2 install medium (14.04.2) | 22:38 |
| Mahe | so I'm already on HWE? | 22:38 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, yes | 22:38 |
| Mahe | that means the life cycle of this install won't even reach 2019? | 22:39 |
| mrkramps_ | nope | 22:39 |
| mrkramps_ | there should be support for this stack until july 2016 | 22:40 |
| Mahe | D: | 22:40 |
| Mahe | can I downgrade to 'true' LTS? | 22:40 |
| mrkramps_ | ah, sry!!! _not_ 2016 | 22:41 |
| mrkramps_ | argh, i never get this right | 22:41 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, original trusty until 2019, lts-utopic and -vivid until july 2016 and lts-(16.04) until 2019 as well | 22:43 |
| Mahe | I'm new to this HWE stuff | 22:44 |
| Mahe | so that means the xorg and kernel stuff gets regularily backported to the LTS? | 22:44 |
| mrkramps_ | introduced with 12.04.2 for all following LTS releases, yes | 22:45 |
| Mahe | okay, so next I'd get vivid's backported xorg and kernel stack? | 22:45 |
| mrkramps_ | exactly | 22:45 |
| mrkramps_ | then willy and then 16.04 (no name by now) | 22:46 |
| mrkramps_ | and 16.04 can be used until EOL 14.04 in 2019 | 22:46 |
| Mahe | okay | 22:47 |
| knome | for what it's worth, xubuntu LTS releases are supported for 3 years | 22:47 |
| mrkramps_ | knome, thanks. that's something i should have mentioned before :S | 22:48 |
| knome | what this basically means is that all of the xubuntu-specific stuff has 3 years of support; all core/shared components get the support level ubuntu provides | 22:48 |
| Mahe | idc, I already use the 4.12 ppa for the xfce stuff | 22:48 |
| knome | but even then, the xubuntu team suggests upgrading after 3 years on an LTS, since the team does not support the aforementioned components any longer | 22:48 |
| knome | "xubuntu-specific stuff" isn't just xfce, but sure, it's your choice | 22:49 |
| Mahe | The important things of an LTS for me are core component security updates and the stable kernel | 22:50 |
| knome | i'm just pointing this out | 22:51 |
| Mahe | yea no problem, thanks for the heads up | 22:51 |
| Unit193 | And, the PPA doesn't get new stuff, and usually drops old releases no longer supported. | 22:51 |
| Mahe | Xfce's development is not as fast-paced and the current version is quite mature so I think I can live with this release a while | 22:52 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe, most likely you cannot stop yourself from upgrading to next LTS with point release 16.04.1 anyways | 22:52 |
| knome | of course you can | 22:53 |
| Mahe | That's fine if it's running as well as the current LTS | 22:53 |
| Mahe | but for instance xubuntu 15.04 breaks my hibernate, even with the 4.0 kernel | 22:53 |
| mrkramps_ | it's not LTS | 22:54 |
| Mahe | yea I know | 22:54 |
| mrkramps_ | and yes, you have to test carefully before upgrading | 22:54 |
| Mahe | Just noticed that the vivid HWE packages are already in the repos | 22:55 |
| mrkramps_ | Mahe if 15.04 breaks your hibernate you should expect this to happen with lts-vivid as well | 22:56 |
| Mahe | yea I thought about that as well just now :D | 22:57 |
| Mahe | so it might fix the graphics but break my hibernate :P | 22:57 |
| Mahe | I'll just do a dd backup image tomorrow and try it | 22:58 |
| Mahe | how can I restart xfdesktop from the command line? | 23:05 |
| mrkramps_ | -R | 23:06 |
| === mrkramps_ is now known as mrkramps | ||
| Mahe | thx | 23:06 |
| mrkramps | or --reload | 23:06 |
| Mahe | okay seems like I successfully patched xfdesktop to use a fixed 48px drag texture size which avoids the graphic issue as well | 23:08 |
| Mahe | one last question about the HWE stuff: did I get that correctly that if I keep updating my point release it will eventually install the vivid backported stuff? | 23:15 |
| mrkramps | Mahe, no | 23:15 |
| mrkramps | you have to install a new stack manually | 23:16 |
| mrkramps | Mahe, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 23:16 |
| Mahe | k thanks | 23:17 |
| Mahe | then I'll just try out the vivid stack and if it doesn't work I'll downgrade to the trusty LTS stack | 23:22 |
| Mahe | thanks for all your explanations and guidance! :) | 23:23 |
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