[00:00] <zumper> i cant see wireless and stuff now
[00:00] <zumper> i did install it again doing apt-get install xfce4-indicator-plugin
[00:00] <zumper> but i cant see wireless..
[00:00] <zumper> only bluetooth now
[00:00] <zumper> how do i get it back?
[00:03] <zumper> ...
[00:04] <zumper> I also removed , by accident , my icon for wireless network connection.  When I put in the terminal : sudo nm-applet  I have my icon back for the wireless connections.
[06:28] <cb_> Hi, I want to configure desktop notifications for my wifi hotspot connection.. so that when a new device gets added it would also show its name in notification popup.. any ideas how do i do that?
[11:06] <gdi2k> how can I adjust the sensitivity of the volume control keys? mine drive the volume from off to ear piercing in about 3 steps...
[11:20] <gdi2k> to answer my own question: xfconf-query -c xfce4-mixer -n -p /volume-step-size -s 1 -t uint
[15:34] <asantos3> uhm, hi
[15:34] <asantos3> does someone remember me from yesterday?
[15:35] <drc> no...best to restate your problem, what you did to correct it and what is still wrong.
[15:35] <asantos3> ok, I write the problem and how I got where I'm now
[15:37] <asantos3> I'm on Xubuntu 15.04 with an Radeon HD 7670M and I'm having fps drops in 3D fullscreen OpenGl games following an update
[15:37] <holstein> asantos3: whatever its an update to, you can try simply reverting the update
[15:38] <asantos3> well, the problem I don't know what was it
[15:38] <holstein> that can at least confirm that, for you. then, you can file a bug, but, i suggest going upstream as far as you can
[15:39] <holstein> asantos3: id day, thats an assumption then. you can try reverting the kernel, then, the driver.. or, just look for, and start your own bug report.. you can try #ubuntu as well, and see if you can find someone with the exact same hardware. that would be helpful
[15:40] <drc> I've never had occasion to use it or even look, but I'd assume that there's an update log <somewhere> ?
[15:40] <asantos3> I tested this a  bunch of times
[15:40] <drc> This should tell you what was updated.
[15:41] <asantos3> I know what I update because I took an screenshot of it
[15:41] <drc> "<asantos3> well, the problem I don't know what was it"  Then what was this?
[15:41] <holstein> asantos3: ah, so, as i suggested, you can try steppting back the versions of what you think is the cause.. its likely you can have a regression bug
[15:41] <holstein> it happens, for sure
[15:43] <asantos3> Here's the screenshot http://i.imgur.com/WQxKg9i.png I took one because monday or so I had fps drops so I tested and bunch of stuff, even switched to ubuntu mate and reinstalled xubuntu 15.04
[15:44] <asantos3> I don't know what could have affected it from that list :/
[15:44] <holstein> asantos3: the drivers, and core kernels, and other parts, are the same.. so, switching DE's wont address driver support, like that
[15:45] <asantos3> But it did ran finned, with everything updated on lubuntu 15.04 and ubuntu 15.04
[15:46] <holstein> asantos3: sure.. both, lubuntu and ubuntu 15.04 are ubuntu as well.. same kernel, and GPU drivers.. *if* you have the same GPU drivers installed
[15:46] <asantos3> I did
[15:46] <asantos3> my gpu doesn't like the proprietary drivers
[15:47] <asantos3> so I always run the Radeon driver
[16:17] <thatdudeguyyoukn> Hi
[16:18] <thatdudeguyyoukn> I installed xubuntu 15.05 and Firefox from the link in the menu doesnt run
[16:18] <thatdudeguyyoukn> I get failed to execute default browser - IO error
[16:18] <thatdudeguyyoukn> Anyone seen this?
[16:19] <asantos3> what do you mean by "from the link in the menu"?
[16:19] <thatdudeguyyoukn> shortcut in the main pulldown
[16:20] <asantos3> runs just fine in a fresh install here
[16:20] <holstein> so, a fresh install of 15.04? and you click on firefox and it doesnt run? what happens, thatdudeguyyoukn ?
[16:20] <thatdudeguyyoukn> yes, that is what I am describing
[16:21] <thatdudeguyyoukn> I get failed to execute default browser - IO error
[16:21] <drc> 1) Works here, 2) what happens if you uninstall then reinstall FF?
[16:21] <thatdudeguyyoukn> Did I break the Internet?
[16:21] <thatdudeguyyoukn> lol
[16:21] <drc> No, you're not that good.
[16:22] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: please open a terminal, and type "firefox" and hit return, and see if it runs..
[16:22] <thatdudeguyyoukn> drc, I'm sure you aren't either
[16:22] <thatdudeguyyoukn> process:4380): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[16:22] <thatdudeguyyoukn> Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/joe/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied
[16:23] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: did it start?
[16:23] <thatdudeguyyoukn> nope
[16:23] <thatdudeguyyoukn> got that error
[16:23] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: how did you install? from what iso?
[16:24] <thatdudeguyyoukn> usb from fresh download
[16:24] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: sure.. from fresh download of what?
[16:24] <thatdudeguyyoukn> I'm gonna reinstall and see if the issue persists
[16:24] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: reinstall what? xubuntu 15.04? 64bit?
[16:24] <thatdudeguyyoukn> holstein, from the ISO download.
[16:24] <thatdudeguyyoukn> 64bit yes
[16:25] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: i would simply update, first. though, it looks like you may just have a simple permissions issue.. did you create a user post install?
[16:25] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: would you try starting firefox as the guest user?
[16:25] <thatdudeguyyoukn> holstein, I did patch it and restart
[16:25] <holstein> thatdudeguyyoukn: you patched what? how?
[16:26] <thatdudeguyyoukn> apt-get
[16:27] <thatdudeguyyoukn> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:27] <holstein> well, im updated here, and firefox runs.. so, i dont think that is the issue.. did you add any ppa's?
[16:27] <thatdudeguyyoukn> nope
[16:27] <thatdudeguyyoukn> nada
[16:27] <holstein> does it run as the guest?
[16:27] <thatdudeguyyoukn> fresh install.  I'm gonna try as guest
[16:28] <thatdudeguyyoukn> Matter of fact, gonna redownload.  Copy ISO to known good USB and reinstall
[16:28] <thatdudeguyyoukn> oh and also checksum after download
[16:28] <drc> and check the media from the menu affter booting the USB, before installing
[16:29] <thatdudeguyyoukn> yes, I will do that as well.
[16:29] <thatdudeguyyoukn> Thanks yall
[16:50] <asantos3> I tried rolling back some updates but didn't figured it out
[16:50] <asantos3> can anyone more knowledge than me see what package could be causing an fps drop? http://i.imgur.com/We4llgE.png This is the update history, the stuff at 04:17 caused it, dunno what.
[20:54] <parzon> hey, can someone tell me how can i hide docky icon?
[20:54] <knome> maybe ask a docky channel?
[22:28] <Mahe> would installing vm+
[22:28] <Mahe> sry accidently hit enter
[22:29] <Mahe> would installing vivid's intel driver deb package (xserver-xorg-video-intel) on trusty break the system (e.g. is it kernel dependent)?
[22:30] <knome> i wouldn't suggest doing that
[22:31] <mrkramps_> Mahe, you could install the HWE
[22:31] <mrkramps_> if not already done
[22:32] <xangua> Mahe: why would you need that? What is your Real issue?
[22:32] <Mahe> I've got a graphical problem with xfdesktop (both with Xfce 4.10 and 4.12) on trusty that isn't present on vivid.
[22:33] <Mahe> If I set the icon size on xfdesktop higher (e.g. 64) and start dragging an element on the desktop my mouse cursor turns in to a garbled mess of the cursor and icon texture mixed together.
[22:33] <Mahe> it's not visible on screenshots but stays for a few minutes
[22:34] <mrkramps_> Mahe, graphics card?
[22:34] <Mahe> It's happening on an Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics
[22:35] <Mahe> it happens when using the SNA accel method (default)
[22:35] <mrkramps_> Mahe, already tried UXA?
[22:35] <Mahe> yes, then the issue disappears
[22:35] <Mahe> but I can't get VSync via compton to work correctly on UXA
[22:36] <Mahe> so it's not a solution for me either
[22:36] <mrkramps_> Mahe, would you mind posting the result of the following command:$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel* | fgrep '***'
[22:36] <Mahe>  *** 2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.5~trusty1 0
[22:37] <mrkramps_> ok, that's the lts-utopic driver
[22:38] <Mahe> I used the point release #2 install medium (14.04.2)
[22:38] <Mahe> so I'm already on HWE?
[22:38] <mrkramps_> Mahe, yes
[22:39] <Mahe> that means the life cycle of this install won't even reach 2019?
[22:39] <mrkramps_> nope
[22:40] <mrkramps_> there should be support for this stack until july 2016
[22:40] <Mahe> D:
[22:40] <Mahe> can I downgrade to 'true' LTS?
[22:41] <mrkramps_> ah, sry!!! _not_ 2016
[22:41] <mrkramps_> argh, i never get this right
[22:43] <mrkramps_> Mahe, original trusty until 2019, lts-utopic and -vivid until july 2016 and lts-(16.04) until 2019 as well
[22:44] <Mahe> I'm new to this HWE stuff
[22:44] <Mahe> so that means the xorg and kernel stuff gets regularily backported to the LTS?
[22:45] <mrkramps_> introduced with 12.04.2 for all following LTS releases, yes
[22:45] <Mahe> okay, so next I'd get vivid's backported xorg and kernel stack?
[22:45] <mrkramps_> exactly
[22:46] <mrkramps_> then willy and then 16.04 (no name by now)
[22:46] <mrkramps_> and 16.04 can be used until EOL 14.04 in 2019
[22:47] <Mahe> okay
[22:47] <knome> for what it's worth, xubuntu LTS releases are supported for 3 years
[22:48] <mrkramps_> knome, thanks. that's something i should have mentioned before :S
[22:48] <knome> what this basically means is that all of the xubuntu-specific stuff has 3 years of support; all core/shared components get the support level ubuntu provides
[22:48] <Mahe> idc, I already use the 4.12 ppa for the xfce stuff
[22:48] <knome> but even then, the xubuntu team suggests upgrading after 3 years on an LTS, since the team does not support the aforementioned components any longer
[22:49] <knome> "xubuntu-specific stuff" isn't just xfce, but sure, it's your choice
[22:50] <Mahe> The important things of an LTS for me are core component security updates and the stable kernel
[22:51] <knome> i'm just pointing this out
[22:51] <Mahe> yea no problem, thanks for the heads up
[22:51] <Unit193> And, the PPA doesn't get new stuff, and usually drops old releases no longer supported.
[22:52] <Mahe> Xfce's development is not as fast-paced and the current version is quite mature so I think I can live with this release a while
[22:52] <mrkramps_> Mahe, most likely you cannot stop yourself from upgrading to next LTS with point release 16.04.1 anyways
[22:53] <knome> of course you can
[22:53] <Mahe> That's fine if it's running as well as the current LTS
[22:53] <Mahe> but for instance xubuntu 15.04 breaks my hibernate, even with the 4.0 kernel
[22:54] <mrkramps_> it's not LTS
[22:54] <Mahe> yea I know
[22:54] <mrkramps_> and yes, you have to test carefully before upgrading
[22:55] <Mahe> Just noticed that the vivid HWE packages are already in the repos
[22:56] <mrkramps_> Mahe if 15.04 breaks your hibernate you should expect this to happen with lts-vivid as well
[22:57] <Mahe> yea I thought about that as well just now :D
[22:57] <Mahe> so it might fix the graphics but break my hibernate :P
[22:58] <Mahe> I'll just do a dd backup image tomorrow and try it
[23:05] <Mahe> how can I restart xfdesktop from the command line?
[23:06] <mrkramps_> -R
[23:06] <Mahe> thx
[23:06] <mrkramps> or --reload
[23:08] <Mahe> okay seems like I successfully patched xfdesktop to use a fixed 48px drag texture size which avoids the graphic issue as well
[23:15] <Mahe> one last question about the HWE stuff: did I get that correctly that if I keep updating my point release it will eventually install the vivid backported stuff?
[23:15] <mrkramps> Mahe, no
[23:16] <mrkramps> you have to install a new stack manually
[23:16] <mrkramps> Mahe, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:17] <Mahe> k thanks
[23:22] <Mahe> then I'll just try out the vivid stack and if it doesn't work I'll downgrade to the trusty LTS stack
[23:23] <Mahe> thanks for all your explanations and guidance! :)