[11:45] <austin> hi all
[11:45] <austin> this question is more kernel module related but im working on ubuntu nonetheless - ive just got a new kernel module working and am wondering what are the ways to get this module activated after reboot. I know about /etc/modules but lets say i dont want to expose the module in this file, what other method is available?
[11:49] <apw> austin, you really have /etc/modules, an init job which modprobes it, or a udev rule pointing to an alais on it
[11:50] <austin> ok makes sense apw
[12:22] <austin> if my module doesn't have dependencies, do i need to run it?
[12:22] <austin> do i need to run depmod i mean
[12:28] <apw> austin, depmod tells module init tools things about your module too
[13:19] <Steven_> how are the ubuntu kernel_image packages from the repository built? Using make-kpkg on the source package or using make deb-pkg on a kernel tree?
[13:24] <rtg> dpkg-buildpackage -B
[16:20] <apw> Steven_, yeah alll builds in the archive are essentially schroot builds using dpkg-buildpackage -B or -b deepending on arch
[19:45] <cyphermox> ogasawara: is there a timeline for when we are likely to get 4.2 in wily?
[19:46] <ogasawara> cyphermox: I want to say sometime next week, we're sorting our fixes for DKMS packages at the moment, but hope to have that resolved early next week
[19:56] <cyphermox> ogasawara: alright, thanks
[20:12] <Steven_> apw: I see, so neither make-kpkg nor make deb-pkg is used? does anyone ever test sourcepackages for the kernel?
[20:30] <apw> Steven_, dpkg-buiildpackage only builds srcpkgs, as doesnthe archive
[20:31] <apw> what we upload is a srcpkg, and is in there too
[20:55] <Steven_> apw: so who builds the kernels themselves?
[20:55] <Steven_> I only ask because I tried building one of these sourcepackages, and I got compile errors
[20:55] <Steven_> so I wonder if they were tested at some point
[21:00] <apw> which package -source?
[21:00] <Steven_> linux-image-3.19.0-generic I believe
[21:00] <Steven_> I filed a bugreport
[21:00] <apw> that is an internal thing not the source fpor building
[21:00] <Steven_> I tried with 3.16.0, works fine there
[21:06] <apw> Steven_, whats the bug number
[21:08] <Steven_> 1481723
[21:12] <apw> they all must build in the appropriate chroots as that is how the binaries get made, no excdeptions
[21:14] <apw> the package source need to be cleaned after unpack because symlinks cannot be represented
[21:14] <apw> the build process uses fakeroot debian/rules clean to do this
[21:15] <apw> but the symlinks are all in one rebuild script
[21:18] <apw> Steven_, ^^
[21:19] <Steven_> hmm
[21:19] <Steven_> I always assumed that kernel image source packages could be built with make-kpkg
[21:19] <Steven_> is that not the case then?
[21:19] <Steven_> where are these extra steps documented?
[21:22] <apw> the documented way to buiild a debian source package is dpkg-buildpackage -S and the steps are all in rules
[21:23] <Steven_> hmm ok
[21:23] <Steven_> this is the third documented way of building kernels I've found
[21:25] <apw> that is how tjhe archive does it, so it is the most reliabkle
[21:25] <Steven_> ok nice, I should try it
[21:25] <Steven_> thx