[03:21] <anthonym>  Alrighty, I have a question.  I have a company with two locations.  I'm trying to figure out the best way to have all my worker computers connect to a ubuntu server for terminal services.  I've looked at LTSP, but it seems as though over WAN it will be dreadfully slow and hog a lot of bandwidth.  I've looked at xrdp but it seems extremely clunky.  I've looked at NoMachine (FreeNX) but
[03:21] <anthonym> it seems out of date.  I've looked at x2go but it doesn't look too nice.   I just want to turn a ubuntu/linux server into a terminal services server (like a windows terminal services server), where clients can login (via rdp or whatever) and get their own session.
[03:21] <anthonym> and I don't want to use a windows terminal services server due to cost and licencing.
[03:54] <tarpman> anthonym: what didn't you like about x2go?
[03:56] <tarpman> anthonym: my (former) $dayjob uses freenx server with the x2go libs underneath, and nomachine's client (nxplayer aka enterprise client) since it has a slick gui. took a bit of doing to get it to work, though, including a few SRUs
[03:58] <sarnold> what does something like that offer that ssh -X doesn't do?
[03:59] <tarpman> sarnold: NX does some neat compression (of the X protocol) to get much efficiency (mainly in terms of round-trips AIUI), so actually usable over WAN
[04:00] <sarnold> tarpman: oh, that does sound nice :)
[04:00] <tarpman> sarnold: it also implements an X server, so you get a whole desktop + session rather than a particular program (yes, I know you can forward gnome-session, IME it isn't so much fun)
[04:01] <tarpman> the bad news is the X server it implements is from 2004
[04:01] <tarpman> but the x2go guys are doing excellent work on fixing that, biggest of hugs to them
[04:02] <sarnold> tarpman: oh .. so you'd have to have a window manager and all that jazz?
[04:02] <tarpman> yes
[04:04] <sarnold> well, I guess if you really wanted the gui to run somewhere else, that might be worth the tradeoff
[04:04] <sarnold> thanks tarpman :)
[04:04] <tarpman> :)
[06:28] <neonixcoder> Good day sarnold
[06:29] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I have a quick question for you.
[06:29] <neonixcoder> I am upgrading 10.04 to 12.04 by using do-release-upgrade command..
[06:29] <neonixcoder> Some how middle of upgrade my system is rebooting with out any conformation..
[06:30] <neonixcoder> and after that it will not boot at all
[06:30] <neonixcoder> any suggestions?
[06:31] <neonixcoder> I dont see any logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages..
[08:00] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:57] <moss> hello, can anyone point me to a guide on installing/configuring Corosync2+Pacemaker on Ubuntu 14.04-LTS? I've looked but can't find any reliable documentation.  Thanks in advance.
[13:57] <jvwjgames> Hi
[13:58] <jvwjgames> I am having problems with my server
[13:58] <jvwjgames> For some reason I can't access the internet
[13:59] <ogra_> that at least makes your server very very safe against attacks from there :)
[14:00] <jvwjgames> Yup
[14:01] <jvwjgames> My server has a static IP set but for some reason the interfaces are trying to get a dhcp lease
[14:01] <jvwjgames> So it is cause dhcp to timeout
[14:02] <jvwjgames> So basically my static is getting ignored and dhcp is running to try and obtain an IP from no where
[14:03] <_ruben> kill dhclient3
[14:03] <qman__> If you already set the static config in /etc/network/interfaces, dhclient -r eth0; ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[14:04] <_ruben> then again, a running dhcp client shouldn't interfere, if there's no dhcp server that is
[14:07] <jvwjgames> Pingdom witch is a remote monitoring station for my server just received an icmp ping reply from my server and now reports it as online
[14:07] <jvwjgames> Thanks
[14:07] <rbasak> matsubara: would you mind seeing if you can finish off SRU verification for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/squid3/+bug/1336742 for me please? The reporter cannot reproduce, but Oleg had posted a test case that reproduced for him.
[14:08] <matsubara> rbasak, don't mind at all. I'll take a look.
[14:08] <rbasak> Thanks!
[14:08] <matsubara> np
[14:22] <ginkobin> Hey I have a question. I'm trying to teach a friend how to setup Ubuntu as a server for the first time
[14:23] <ginkobin> hey said he needs to make sure it is updog compatible, does anyone know if updog is supported?
[14:25] <Pici> ginkobin: you should ask him what updog is.
[14:26] <spicypixel> I heard it's been depreciated since it's now using systemd
[14:26] <ginkobin> All he said is that it was a legacy driver
[14:26] <fixxxermet> Hey everyone.  I installed ubuntu via a usb drive, onto a sata disk.  Unfortunatly the usb drive messed up the hard disk ordering and I screwed up and installed grub to the USB drive (and Ubuntu to the hard disk drive).  Computer boots fine if I boot from the USB drive.
[14:26] <ginkobin> I have no idea what for
[14:26] <fixxxermet> Can I just install grub to the hard disk drive from the cli?
[14:28] <jelly> fixxxermet: sure, something like "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" or wherever your disk is
[14:28] <jelly> assuming grub-pc and not the EFI thing
[14:30] <ginkobin> fixxxermet: you probably should be sure to use grub2 as well
[14:30] <ginkobin> not legacy
[14:40] <OerHeks> !grub2
[15:17] <RoyK> !grub1
[15:18] <RoyK> !lilo
[15:18] <RoyK> :)
[15:25]  * jelly would be impressed if there was also an !extlinux
[15:50] <DammitJim> what do you guys read daily to know if there is a critical update for which one needs to reboot the servers?
[15:50] <RoyK> DammitJim: well, you can just login to the server to check
[15:51] <DammitJim> I'm thinking as a systems administrator
[15:51] <OerHeks> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[15:52] <DammitJim> OerHeks, that's what you read daily?
[15:52] <RoyK> DammitJim: you could make a cron job checking for the existence of /var/run/reboot-required and post and email about it if it's there
[15:52] <OerHeks> maybe there has been someone that puts those messages in a conkyrc. yes, i check a few pages daily.
[15:52] <RoyK> or even autoreboot if it's there (if you dare)
[15:52] <DammitJim> no, I can't auto-reboot
[15:52] <RoyK> DammitJim: most won't do that :)
[15:53] <OerHeks> RoyK +1 automatic updates
[15:53] <DammitJim> what I probably really need to do is have the ability to apply critical updates w/o having to reboot
[15:53] <DammitJim> I have automatic critical updates, but no automatic reboots
[15:53] <RoyK> OerHeks: obviously, yes
[15:53] <OerHeks> as of kernel 4.x you would not need to reboot anymore.
[15:53] <DammitJim> i know!
[15:53] <DammitJim> too bad, we are still on 3.X
[15:53] <RoyK> OerHeks: erm... what did they do?
[15:54] <DammitJim> still on 3.16.0-45
[15:55] <RoyK> OerHeks: did ksplice get in?
[15:55] <OerHeks> live kernel patching http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/linux-kernel-4-0-new-features
[15:56] <OerHeks>  ‘Hurr durr I’m a sheep’
[15:57] <OerHeks> But that does not solve current issue, watching /var/run/reboot-required is the easiest way i guess
[15:57] <enleeten> can't wait for that on my servers :)
[15:59] <DammitJim> OerHeks, I know I need to reboot my servers (they've been waiting for days)
[15:59] <DammitJim> but I don't consider those fixes critical for our environment
[16:00] <DammitJim> I just need to come up with a system that tells me if I need to schedule a reboot or not
[16:00] <DammitJim> a reboot in my environment is a pain in the butt
[16:01] <RoyK> OerHeks: something like: if [ -f /var/run/reboot-required ]; then echo 'I (`hostname`) need a reboot, sir!' | mail -s 'reboot required' someone@somewhere'
[16:01] <DammitJim> I would get that email every day :D
[16:01] <RoyK> s/$/ ; fi/
[16:01] <DammitJim> ok, so just going to the website should do http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[16:02] <RoyK> DammitJim: then just touch a file like 'warning_sent' and remove it later
[16:02] <DammitJim> thanks
[16:02] <OerHeks> Still wonder how you would determin why you don't need to reboot, if that request is set.
[16:03] <OerHeks> is there no timeframe where you have no users? like 2:am-5:am
[16:03] <DammitJim> OerHeks, no
[16:04] <DammitJim> and yes, I know... we need to create some kind of load balancing (that's not the right word)
[16:04] <DammitJim> so that we can put a server offline and let another one pick up the work
[16:05] <DammitJim> I mean... USN-2701-1... it sounds critical
[16:05] <DammitJim> but at this time, I haven't considered it critical enough for me to have to reboot the server for it to take place
[16:05] <DammitJim> I don't know... I'm still learning what is a good balance
[16:06] <DammitJim> there have been kernel fixes almost every 4 days in the last 2 weeks
[21:24] <blizzow> I have a machine I'm trying to install ubuntu cloud-installer openstack on.  It's a fresh 15.04 installation and I made sure to add the virtual machine host and openssh server roles during installation.  I am trying the single installer guide from here:  http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html
[21:24] <blizzow> The install hangs after bootstrapping juju.
[21:26] <blizzow> At the bottom of the installer screen, I see this:  "[INFO] -> Waiting for machines to start: 3 unknown (error: kvm container creation failed: exit status 1) ...
[21:27] <blizzow> kvm-ok returns  INFO: /dev/kvm exists KVM accerleration can be used.
[21:29] <blizzow> I made sure virtinst, qemu-kvm and uvtool-libvirt are installed.
[21:29] <blizzow> Still no joy.
[21:30] <blizzow> Anyone know how to get the ubuntu openstack installer running on 15.04?
[21:33] <sarnold> blizzow: is there any more detailed information in any log files?
[21:48] <blizzow> sarnold: I don't see any errors in the log that would point at something.
[21:49] <blizzow> checked /home/ubuntu/.cloud-install/commands.log
[21:49] <sarnold> blizzow: how about /var/log/libvirt/ ?
[21:50] <blizzow> sarnold: I checked there and not a single log file exists in it.
[21:50] <blizzow> just a couple .placeholder files.
[21:51] <sarnold> hah :(
[21:51] <blizzow> I also did an: lxc-console -n openstack-single-ubuntu and looked in /var/log/cloud-init.log and /var/log/cloud-init-output.log and don't see any errors.
[21:53] <blizzow> I looks like juju is running on the lxc container.  but I've never used it, so I don't know what I should be expecting.
[21:54] <sarnold> you may have more success in #juju; I don't know if they're familiar with that tool, but they will be better able to help debug juju there
[22:06] <blizzow> I don't think it's a juju problem... I think it's an ubuntu cloud-installer problem.  I just found in the lxc container /var/log/libvirt/qemu/ubuntu-local-machine-1.log "libvirt: error : libvirtd quit during handshake: Input/output error.