[12:03] <cmaloney> Morning
[12:04] <cmaloney> (unrelated: my script to log into work is called "morning")
[13:08] <jrwren> cmaloney: ha!
[15:27] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3139/
[15:28] <cmaloney> Apparently it's this weekend
[15:29] <cscheib> lulz: 7 people from 8 LoCos and 6 countries are participating in this event!
[15:29] <cmaloney> There are more events in Russia than in the USA
[15:29] <cscheib> methinks that event didn't have a strong planner
[15:30] <cscheib> one can always just blame things on jcastro
[15:30] <cscheib> I still blame Unity on him
[15:33] <jcastro> hah
[15:33] <jcastro> unity is awesome I don't know what you're talking about
[15:33] <cmaloney> I <3 Unity
[15:33] <jrwren> What is unit?
[15:33] <jrwren> err, unity?
[15:34] <cmaloney> jrwren: Are you using Ubuntu?
[15:34] <jrwren> I don't even know what ubuntu desktop I run. xubuntu or lubuntu, but I'm never sure which. :)
[15:34] <cmaloney> *rolls eyes*
[15:34] <jrwren> cmaloney: I'm typing to you from irssi running on ubuntu.
[15:34] <jrwren> cmaloney: connected to it from iterm on macosx :)
[15:35] <jrwren> oh man, its global bug jam this weekend?!?
[15:36] <jrwren> well, lets say I did my contribution by packaging up golang 1.5 rc1 to ppa last night :p
[15:36] <cmaloney> jrwren: apparently
[15:36] <cmaloney> I'm doing my part by saying "apparently it's [global jam] this weekend
[15:37] <jrwren> I found this recently: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Fix/Lists%20of%20bugs
[15:37] <jrwren> should be fun as a starting point.
[15:38] <cmaloney> Look at those trending lines. :)
[15:38] <jcastro> I didn't even know it was a jam this weekend?
[15:39] <greg-g> jcastro: man, you canonical employees are sooo disconnected from the community! don't even know it's a jam this weekend?!?!?!
[15:40] <cmaloney> jcastro: I only found out because Michael Hall posted on G+
[15:40] <greg-g> :P
[15:40] <greg-g> g'morning :)
[15:40] <cmaloney> greg-g's todo list: [x] Wake up [x] slag Ubuntu community [ ] get coffee
[15:40] <cmaloney> ;)
[15:41] <jcastro> greg-g: we apparently aren't the only ones who don't know either if only like 7 people showed up
[15:41] <greg-g> :)
[15:42] <jrwren> greg-g: its because we don't work on Ubuntu :(
[15:43] <jcastro> fundamentally working on ubuntu is just boring/finished for me.
[15:43] <jcastro> so many more problems to solve on top of the platform
[15:43] <jcastro> which are more interesting, aka. giving people kubernetes or a libswarm cluster, etc.
[15:44] <greg-g> (look at what my jest did! it made a serious-ish conversation! #winning)
[15:44] <jcastro> lol
[15:44] <jcastro> I always answer any question people have
[15:44] <greg-g> lol
[15:44] <greg-g> jcastro: what color undies today?
[15:44] <cmaloney> I didn't even know I needed a kubernetes until jcastro told me I needed one
[15:45] <jcastro> dark grey, next
[15:45] <jcastro> cmaloney: I didn't say you needed kubernetes!
[15:45] <jrwren> greg-g: you shouldn't ask that. Have you seen @aphyr's twitter feed?
[15:45] <greg-g> uhhh,no?
[15:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: you don't need a kubernetes.
[15:45] <jrwren> greg-g: depending on work envirnonment you may not want to.
[15:45] <greg-g> this ain't work for me :)
[15:49] <cmaloney> So basically Ubuntu Desktop is unmaintained then? ;)
[15:50] <jcastro> it's about the same level as unmaintained as every other desktop
[15:52] <jcastro> https://i.imgur.com/C2g72iE.png
[15:52] <jcastro> this is what windows 10's control panels look like
[15:52] <jcastro> yes, panels, plural
[15:52] <jcastro> they have 2
[15:53] <jcastro> apparently made by two totally different companies.
[15:53] <cmaloney> Took a design cue from Blackberry / Lotus Notes
[15:53] <jcastro> I was thinking more like GTK in 2002
[15:54] <cmaloney> Same thing
[15:55] <cscheib> windows has had 2 control panels for a really long time anyway
[15:55] <cscheib> there's the stupid task view
[15:55] <cscheib> or the icon view
[15:55] <jcastro> well, it's been like 15 years though
[15:55] <jcastro> they're a multi-billion dollar company
[15:56] <jcastro> we have an excuse, a handful of a few engineers and some part time volunteers
[15:56] <cmaloney> Microsoft has never been too keen on folks mucking with their control settings anyway
[15:56] <jcastro> yeah but that's not the point
[15:56] <jcastro> have one or the other
[15:56] <cmaloney> That's partly why they're so confusingly laid out : They don't expect you tofind then
[15:56] <cmaloney> them
[15:57] <jcastro> oh I never go looking for them, I just search
[15:57] <jcastro> hmm, apparently MS has ~6000 people working on windows
[15:59] <cscheib> yea, search fixes most of my problems
[15:59] <jcastro> I don't think I've browsed a menu in like 3 years
[15:59] <jcastro> on any OS
[16:00] <jcastro> though, I think people are kind of overblowing the windows 10 thing
[16:00] <jcastro> "omg it has a keylogger"
[16:00] <jcastro> of course it does dude, how do you think predictive text correction works
[16:01] <cscheib> they always go all nutty about everything
[16:01] <cscheib> gotta have something to bitch about
[16:01] <jcastro> there was a guy on a debian list complaining that his web browser made remote connections to remote servers
[16:01] <jcastro> it's like, you know that's the definition of what a browser does
[16:02] <cscheib> "here's TCPDUMP output with my username and password in it, because I didn't use SSL"
[16:03] <cscheib> jcastro: well, I mean, you can browse your filesystem with it, but it's not particularly effective at that
[16:04] <jcastro> speaking of worthless tech
[16:04] <jcastro> I got some amazon dash buttons
[16:04] <jcastro> they're so awesome, it literally is worthless
[16:04] <jcastro> you push a button and it orders garbage bags from amazon
[16:05] <cmaloney> jcastro: /me makes it his life's mission to teach your dogs to push those buttons
[16:06] <jcastro> they're actually kind of neat, they are DDoS proof
[16:06] <jcastro> so it only orders on item, and you can't order another one until the one you asked for is delivered
[16:06] <jcastro> so like you can't just push my button 50 times and cost me money
[16:06] <cmaloney> Hah, nice.
[16:07]  * cmaloney is listening to Procol Harum - Conquistador
[16:08] <cmaloney> <3
[16:09] <jcastro> I want to hack them to do other IoT-like things though
[16:09] <jcastro> turn on/off lights, etc.
[16:09] <cscheib> "the Tide button is rave mode for the basement"
[16:09] <cmaloney> hah
[16:09] <jcastro> if I could tie it to that company in AA that delivers beer
[16:09] <jcastro> man
[16:09] <jcastro> you know that would be awesome
[16:10] <cmaloney> I'd settle for the fridge coming to me
[16:11] <cscheib> I'm sure Uber will add alcohol delvery eventually
[16:11] <cscheib> they're already starting on restaurant delivery
[16:26] <jcastro> we have lyft locally here too
[16:26] <jcastro> it's nice
[18:50] <cmaloney> http://meercatsthatlooklikebruceschnier.tumblr.com/
[18:55] <cscheib> that's great